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jbichaGunnarHj: interesting read: https://girinstud.io/news/2018/02/ibus-hangul-and-compose-key-the-incredible-journey-of-a-simple-patch/00:20
GunnarHjjbicha: Yeah.. Bug hunting may be truly frustrating sometimes.00:35
GunnarHjjbicha: Btw, I can't reproduce that issue with compose:caps on artful.00:55
jbichaare you using ibus?00:57
GunnarHjjbicha: IBus is the selected IM framework, if that's what you mean.01:55
ulyssesHey guys, I accidentally botched my radeon config file, and I'm stuck in Wayland and csan't get to the file due to its root restrictions05:54
ulyssesAny advice on how to restore the file to its defaults?05:54
ulyssesI know how to fix it, it's just a matter of getting to the root file05:54
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:18
dufluMorning oSoMoN07:18
dufluHmm Redback in the letterbox07:24
dufluYep, it's summer07:24
oSoMoNhey duflu07:24
didrocksgood morning08:20
dufluMorning didrocks08:38
didrockshey duflu, how are you?08:39
dufludidrocks, I am imperfect. But this made it a good day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCc16uozHVE08:39
dufluHow are you didrocks?08:40
dufluMorning seb12808:40
seb128good morning desktopers08:40
seb128hey duflu didrocks08:40
didrockssalut seb12808:40
tjaaltonhow to debug snaps that don't launch?08:51
oSoMoNgood morning didrocks, seb12808:56
tjaalton"desktop-launch: not found"08:56
GunnarHjGood morning all!08:58
GunnarHjseb128: How about starting the day with a nice regex? :)08:58
GunnarHjIt's the patch at bug #168899408:58
ubot5bug 1688994 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "dh-translations: cannot build POT without intltool" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168899408:58
didrockssalut oSoMoN08:58
seb128hey GunnarHj, do you ever stop working/sleep? ;)08:59
seb128lut oSoMoN08:59
seb128tjaalton, that would be an issue :p08:59
GunnarHjseb128: It happens. But don't tell anyone.08:59
seb128tjaalton, but usual way would be to try starting manually and see if it displays an error on stderr, then you can try to snap run --shell <snap>08:59
seb128that gives you a shell inside the snap08:59
tjaaltonok08:59
seb128GunnarHj, :)09:00
seb128GunnarHj, I'm still doing morning catching up but I look at that in 15 min or so09:00
GunnarHjseb128: Great!09:00
seb128tjaalton, inside the snap when you use --shell the env is not fully set, e.G you can't start the command directly, usually you want to use /snap/<snap_name>/current/command-<binname>.wrapper09:02
tjaaltonseb128: that's what I tried and it said "desktop-launch: not found"09:04
dufluwillcooke, seb128, hangout?09:04
tjaaltondarktable09:04
didrockstjaalton: in your snapcraft.yaml, do you have the desktop part?09:04
tjaaltonwhere is that?09:04
didrocksthis is your snap, correct?09:05
tjaaltonno09:05
didrocksyou authored snapcraft.yaml09:05
didrocksah09:05
tjaaltoninstalled from the store, darktable 2.4.109:05
didrocksmaybe the snapcraft author didn't pull the correct part09:05
didrocksfirst, do as seb told, using snap run --shell <snap_name>09:05
tjaaltontried to launch from the store page09:05
didrocksand try to find in $SNAP desktop-launch09:05
willcookesorry duflu, didnt open my calendar and got sucked in to email09:06
tjaaltonlooks like I can't access anything while on the shell09:06
didrocksyou should09:06
didrocksor you are not in $SNAP09:06
tjaalton"can't open directory /share/locale"09:07
tjaaltonok, the snap is probably busted, where to file bugs?09:07
didrocksflexiondotorg: is there a field people can use to contact snap's author? ^09:08
seb128duflu, willcooke, sorry, I still didn't get used to that one being shifted to be one hour earlier ... do you need me to join?09:09
duflunah09:09
seb128if so give me a few minutes09:09
seb128tjaalton, email to the snap author?09:10
seb128there is no unique location like launchpad for snap reports09:10
tjaaltonbah09:11
tjaaltonok09:11
tjaaltonheh, is there no limit to how many instances of a snap app can be launched? installed wallpaperdownloader, and have a few copies running :09:17
flexiondotorgdidrocks Yes, the contact field which is exposed via `snap info` and the store page.09:17
seb128flexiondotorg, hey, do you know if that snap is known to be buggy?09:20
flexiondotorgseb128 I've not tested darktable myself. I'll take a look when I'm back at work tomorrow.09:25
seb128ok, people who like regexps and maybe perl, how does  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/356033584/pkgbinarymangler-configure.ac.debdiff look to you?09:45
seb128it's to catch cases where " AC_SUBST([GETTEXT_PACKAGE], [name])" is used09:45
seb128instead of " GETTEXT_PACKAGE=<domain>"09:46
didrockswas there really a "like" in your sentence? :p09:46
seb128the regexp looks fine to me but I wouldn't say no to have somebody else to comment09:46
seb128didrocks, oh, I see you raise your hand, thanks for stepping up :p09:46
didrocksthere was indeed a like…09:46
didrocksso doesn't match ;)09:46
seb128haha09:47
didrockshum, I wonder if it shouldn't be matched in one expression instead of 209:47
seb128you mean?09:50
seb128.*GETTEXT_PACKAGE<somethingcomplex>name09:51
seb128?09:51
seb128where somethingcomplex is  "=" or "],/s*"?09:51
seb128\s09:51
didrocksyeah, I found an expression, but it's way less readable09:52
didrocksso, let's use the or09:52
didrocksmy only remark is that I would use \S+ for both09:53
didrocks(first and second expression)09:53
didrocksto ensure $1 isn't empty09:53
didrocksand expand09:53
didrocksthe rest looks good to me09:53
didrocksGunnarHj: ^09:53
seb128didrocks, thanks for having a look09:56
GunnarHjdidrocks: \S+ is in both.09:57
GunnarHjOr did I misunderstand you?09:58
didrocksGunnarHj: not in the debdiff I saw at least: +    $domain = $1 if /^GETTEXT_PACKAGE\s*=\s*(\S*)/ or10:00
didrocks\S*, not \S+10:00
GunnarHjdidrocks: Ah, see now. Actually there are several other regexes in the script which use \S* as well. Is it motivated to make that change all over?10:02
GunnarHjdidrocks: (i.e. I didn't introduce \S*)10:03
didrocksGunnarHj: just have some consistency, either use \S* for both regexp or \S+10:04
seb128I wouldn't change the existing code10:04
seb128so yeah, maybe use \S* for the new line?10:04
didrocksso that $1 is consistent between packages having GETTEXT_PACAKGE= or AC_SUBST()10:04
didrockswfm10:05
GunnarHjseb128, didrocks: Ok, I'll upload a new patch with that change.10:05
seb128thx didrocks & GunnarHj10:05
didrocksyw!10:05
didrocksbuilding webkit…10:07
seb128it's I cold day, I can understand :)10:08
didrockstrue10:08
didrocksmy laptopt isn't warm enough yet though :p10:09
didrocksand I'm sure I'll have a gjs build after the webkit one…10:09
seb128:)10:11
seb128what bug are you chassing?10:11
didrocksjust building the whole stack for GNOME design to test the Shell with volume overdrive10:12
didrockson jhbuild10:13
GunnarHjseb128: New patch uploaded. Can you sponsor please?10:16
seb128GunnarHj, yes, I guess you tried it on packages using both syntax to verify it works as it should?10:18
seb128didrocks, I see, fun10:18
GunnarHjseb128: I tested the loop via a throw-away script and a fake configure.ac. Think that's sufficient.10:19
seb128right10:20
seb128thx for fixing that10:20
GunnarHjTested both syntaxes, of course.10:20
seb128I had it on my backlog for a long time10:20
GunnarHjseb128: You provided the real solution. I just did last bit. :)10:21
seb128:)10:25
seb128GunnarHj, oh btw I don't remember now, you said that the remmina upload/tweak worked?10:26
GunnarHjseb128: Yes, it did.10:26
seb128good :)10:27
GunnarHjseb128: I'm also looking at bug #1730793. It's a really bad one - the .po files seems to not have been imported to LP in 7 years.10:31
ubot5bug 1730793 in util-linux (Ubuntu) "Translations not imported from upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173079310:31
seb128GunnarHj, is that only some locales? do we strip the translations/does it lead to have that software not translated at all for 7 years (we would have noticed no?)?10:32
GunnarHjseb128: There are translations in LP and in the langpacks, but they are dated.10:33
seb128ah10:34
seb128let me know if you figure out anything or if you need help10:34
dufluWonderful. I can't fix one part of mutter because another part is too bad at math to support the fix. Will have to do a separate fix...10:35
dufluTomorrow.10:35
dufluLater...10:35
seb128night duflu10:35
GunnarHjseb128: The latest build log claims that the tarball util-linux_2.30.2-0.1ubuntu1_amd64_translations.tar.gz was created. I'd like to see what it contains, but don't remember where to look.10:35
seb128GunnarHj, wait10:43
seb128GunnarHj, doing it with lp apis worked before10:46
seb128I had that in my notes10:46
seb128$ lp-shell10:46
seb128ubuntu = lp.distributions['ubuntu']10:46
seb128uploads = ubuntu.getSeries(name_or_version='bionic').getPackageUploads(name='util-linux', version='2.30.2-0.1ubuntu1 ', custom_type='raw-translations')10:46
seb128for upload in uploads:10:47
seb128    print(upload)10:47
seb128but that doesn't work on this one10:47
GunnarHjseb128: There were actually a couple of SRU uploads after the latest bionic upload. Can it have been replaced with any of those?10:49
seb128I don't think so10:49
seb128maybe try asking cjwatson on #ubuntu-devel10:49
GunnarHjseb128: Ok.10:50
GunnarHjseb128: Did you see Colin's link at #ubuntu-devel? Anyway, I checked11:05
GunnarHjhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+upload/16957223/+files/util-linux_2.30.2-0.1ubuntu1_amd64_translations.tar.gz11:05
seb128GunnarHj, I did11:06
GunnarHjand found that it contains the updated .po files.11:06
seb128GunnarHj, my lp-shell line works as well, I just had an extra space in the version I didn't notice :/11:09
GunnarHjseb128: Maybe there is a template confusion. There is a util-linux-locales in the tarball (the name of the package which contains the translations at Debian), but at https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/util-linux/+pots/util-linux/+admin the template name is util-linux.11:10
GunnarHjseb128: s/util-linux-locales/util-linux-locales folder/11:11
seb128GunnarHj, how is named the .pot?11:12
GunnarHjseb128: util-linux.pot11:12
seb128so that's the correct domain11:12
GunnarHjseb128: So why isn't it imported?11:14
GunnarHjseb128: It seems that the package builds fine.11:15
seb128GunnarHj, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/util-linux states " This source package is sharing translations with Util-Linux-ng head series. "11:15
seb128that might be the issue11:15
seb128it's importing translations from https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/util-linux-ng/trunk11:16
seb128which fails to import since 201511:16
seb128GunnarHj, one way would be to fix that import, another would be to disable the sharing and redo a source upload so files from the package get imported11:17
GunnarHjseb128: The latter seems to be easier.11:18
seb128let's do that then11:18
seb128GunnarHj, I'm giving it a try11:18
GunnarHjseb128: I just dropped the share link.11:19
seb128I did a minute ago11:19
seb128if we both did it it should be in place for sure :)11:19
GunnarHjseb128: Then it ought to be safely gone!11:19
seb128indeed11:19
seb128I'm doing an upload11:19
seb128let's see11:19
GunnarHjGreat.11:20
jbichadidrocks: I just use 'sudo apt build-dep' then 'jhbuild buildone' on the components I actually need instead of trying to build everything11:26
seb128GunnarHj, hum, the pkgbinarymangler upload failed, I did a retry but there might be issues to resolve (it didn't look related to the change though so maybe just other parts changed in bionic that create issues)11:26
jbichagood morning11:26
seb128hey jbicha11:26
didrocksjbicha: I have a bunch of components to build with particular patches11:26
didrocksjbicha: so, that's why I have my jhbuildrc11:26
GunnarHjseb128: :(11:26
didrockswhich only builds what is needed11:26
jbichadidrocks: but webkit??11:26
didrockssounds like it's on gnome-shell path…11:27
GunnarHjseb128: But it's currently building.11:28
jbichadidrocks: Ubuntu doesn't needs GNOME Tweaks' Sound panel, right?11:34
seb128GunnarHj, I retried the build in case it's a transient issue11:34
GunnarHjseb128: I see.11:35
seb128GunnarHj, it failed again, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/356106245/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.pkgbinarymangler_132_BUILDING.txt.gz11:35
didrocksjbicha: no, we have the g-c-c patch11:35
didrocksjbicha: I'm still hoping to get aday reviewing the volume thing for 3.28 and get upstream approving, but we'll see11:36
jbichadidrocks: GNOME is applying your volume patches everywhere for 3.28 except for g-c-c, right?11:36
didrocksjbicha: that's the goal, indeed11:37
didrocksjbicha: we may have also the dialogs trigger that was made by GNOME design11:37
didrocks(but won't be applied in GNOME, unfortunately)11:38
GunnarHjseb128: Saw it. Looking at debian/rules. This is over my head.11:38
seb128GunnarHj, I'm going to have a look don't worry11:39
jbichadidrocks: ha, it confuses me when GNOME comes up with patches like GNOME bug 688320 but refuses to actually apply them! :)11:39
ubot5Gnome bug 688320 in general "dconf config option for disabling the activities hot corner" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68832011:39
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, great.11:39
didrocksjbicha: yes ;)11:39
andyrockHey all11:53
didrocksmorn…afternoon andyrock :)11:54
GunnarHjseb128: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/util-linux/+imports :)11:56
seb128GunnarHj, good, my theory was right :)11:57
seb128GunnarHj, I approved the template, it should import in a bit/while11:57
andyrockseb128: if you didn't upload the udisks debdiffs yet maybe backport is better then upstream in the Origin dep-3 field12:03
seb128hey andyrock12:03
seb128andyrock, so can you refresh me what you were saying yesterday ... you prefer to go for the hack in gdu? no need of the udisk upload then?12:04
andyrockthere is no need but we can keep it12:04
andyrockin theory you can still use this to hide devices from gdu12:05
andyrockand maybe they solve the problem of existing mounted snaps directly in snapd12:06
andyrockand we already have the code there12:06
andyrockwe'll just drop the second patch12:06
seb128k, so I can upload udisks2 then?12:11
seb128andyrock, ^?12:13
andyrockyep12:13
andyrockand please check the update patch for gdu12:13
seb128andyrock, looks good, I'm going to add the bug reference to the changelog and upload12:16
andyrockkk12:16
andyrockthanks seb12812:16
seb128andyrock, thanks for all the work on that!12:16
seb128andyrock, one down, back to livepatch? ;)12:16
andyrockyeah12:16
andyrocki'm trying to understand if it's possible to run snapd inside the chroot12:17
andyrockduring the installer12:17
andyrockbecause if we login during the live that macaroons are not going to be valid once the system is installed12:18
seb128because they have infos on the system used to log in which are going to be different?12:18
seb128that might be something worth asking mvo about12:18
seb128jbicha, do you know if there is any reason we didn't follow the 3.27 versions of glib/libsoup/gvfs and from leaf apps during the cycle so far?12:20
andyrocksooo for what I understand snapd has an intern state (that is saved in /var/lib/snapd/state.json)12:22
andyrocka "field" of its state is the authenticated users + macaroons etc12:23
andyrockevery time you try to authenticate a request, snapd will validate it also checking if the userr is "already in .../stage.json")12:25
seb128andyrock, please try asking on the #snappy channel if they can help you to understand/recommend what to do, easier than spending days to trying to figure out the pieces yourself12:25
jbichaseb128: glib tends to be more Laney's responsibility12:34
seb128right, I just wondered if you had a clue12:34
seb128he uploaded to Debian experimental mid-january12:34
seb128he's off this week, I ask him next week when he's back12:35
jbichado you want 3.27 libsoup and leaf apps uploaded to bionic now?12:35
seb128not especially "now"12:35
seb128I was just curious if we were holding on those for a reason12:35
seb128usually you do update "non risk" apps12:35
seb128like gedit, I don't expect surprises to come from it since12:36
jbichathe last few cycles I mostly waited until the .90 milestone to upload those apps, and the .90 milestone is only this week12:36
seb128since there is no active maintainer/planned features|new design12:36
seb128k12:36
seb128that makes sense12:36
seb128thx12:36
jbichaI'd upload webkit now but it's blocked on security MIR review of brotli/woff212:37
seb128those have been bounced to the security team only recently12:38
seb128it's a bit earlier to nag them yet12:39
willcookeTrevinho, hey, could you respond to Omer's question re: fractional scaling here:  https://plus.google.com/u/0/+WillCooke/posts/dmxF68Pha2a?cfem=113:59
Trevinhowillcooke: ok14:00
willcookethanks Trevinho14:00
SaviqTrevinho: are huge emojis in Thunderbird a known issue in bionic? https://imgur.com/a/SVpgj (thanks popey!)14:33
popeyoh wow14:34
TrevinhoSaviq: oh... Nope... :|14:34
seb128Saviq, is that an hidpi issue?14:34
TrevinhoSaviq: pretty funny14:34
popeyOnce again, me throwing random Emjoi in places uncovers bugs in surprising places!14:34
Trevinhojbicha: you know anything? ^14:34
popey*emoji14:34
* seb128 wonders why Saviq as to Trevinho who hasn't been working on emojis nor tb14:34
TrevinhoI guess it's just thunderbird not supporting properly the font14:34
Saviqseb128: he was the last to write here, and I knew he'd be amused ;)14:35
Saviq(and know who to throw this at)14:35
seb128:)14:35
Saviqand no, no hidpi14:35
seb128k14:35
Saviq2 screens, 1080p and 1920x120014:35
TrevinhoSaviq: give a try removing the noto font...14:37
Trevinhooh, well it will fix it for sure :-D14:38
Trevinhono need to try14:38
Trevinhobut, maybe trying other emoji fonts, but to mee it looks like thunderbird isn't uspporting such fonts properly... Sooo, possibilities are various14:38
seb128GunnarHj, that util-linux upload worked well, the french translations have been updated, going from 3k untranslated to 20014:41
SaviqI'll file a bug with Thunderbird, then14:41
GunnarHjseb128: Yep, same for Danish (the OP's language) and Swedish.14:42
seb128GunnarHj, good job!14:42
seb128Saviq, upstream best if you can, I don't think we have anyone reading lp bugs/having time to work on it14:43
GunnarHjseb128: I mostly made some noise; you spotted the problem.14:43
seb128GunnarHj, result is there :)14:43
GunnarHjRight. :)14:43
seb128jbicha, is shotwell something you usually look at/plan to update?14:44
jbichaseb128: feel free to work on shotwell if you like :)14:49
seb128jbicha, that's a "no"? :)14:49
jbichathe Debian Shotwell maintainer is frustrating to work with14:49
SaviqFWIW https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1360862 was filed already, as it happens14:50
ubot5Mozilla bug 1360862 in Graphics: Text "Huge Google Noto emojis since recent Firefox update" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]14:50
jbichaI confirmed with Shotwell upstream that 0.28 is targetted to land at the same time as GNOME 3.2814:50
seb128Saviq, good to know, thx14:50
Saviqbut that's Firefox, and fixed14:50
seb128jbicha, ok, I think I'm going to start by updating to the current stable and maybe try to have a look to 0.27 later14:50
jbichaseb128: 👍14:51
seb128jbicha, thx :)14:51
jbichaoh shotwell isn't too bad now, I guess it's simple-scan that has the ignored patches right now14:53
jbichaignored by the Debian maintainer14:53
Saviqwonder if it's fixed in more recent thunderbird14:53
Saviqhmm there isn't a more recent thunerdbird :/14:55
jbichaThunderbird builds its official releases from the Mozilla ESR branches14:56
jbichaIf you just want an easy workaround, you can try Beta: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird-next/14:57
willcookeThat bug suggested that it wouldnt be in the ESR :(14:58
seb128andyrock, I'm going to upload the xenial diff to 17.10 rather than the bionic one if that's ok for you ... what do you think?15:13
andyrockok for me15:13
andyrocksafer and easier I guess15:13
seb128andyrock, I don't think we want to SRU the udisks change/new API15:13
seb128right15:13
seb128thx15:13
oSoMoNricotz, FYI, I just pushed a patch to the ubuntu-bionic-6.0 branch for bug #169625015:14
ubot5bug 1696250 in libreoffice (Debian) "Please hide Start Center and Math" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169625015:14
andyrockmvo: I'm trying to allow store login in the installer. One possible solution would be to:15:15
andyrock1) stop/disable snapd.service/snapd.socket (the one running in the live session)15:15
andyrock2) manually start snapd inside the /target chroot15:15
andyrock3) a client can now talk with the chrooted snapd through /run/snapd.socket15:15
andyrockDo you think that (1) and/or (2) could create any side effect?15:15
andyrockops wrong channel15:16
andyrockmvo let's move to #snappy15:16
ricotzoSoMoN, ack15:19
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willcookeseb128, do you know if we're likely to get GStreamer 1.14 in for Bionic?15:53
willcookeBryan pointed to a slide deck from FOSDEM which said MP3 codecs are moving to good15:54
willcookeSo if we are likely to get it, I'll need to speak to legal again15:54
tjaaltonbah, bionic has older firefox than xenial :P15:55
seb128willcooke, funny than you ask, I was poking gstreamer people about that earlier and yes I think it's likely15:56
seb128willcooke, they should have their pre-version for the new stable out next week15:56
seb128tjaalton, that's usual, dev series always have toolchain etc issue and usually updates are security ones which focus on stable series15:56
tjaalton58 fixed slow horizontal tab scroll15:58
tjaaltonkinda miss that already :)15:58
seb128you can probably install the 17.10 deb15:58
tjaaltonit's in -proposed, ppc64el ftbfs15:59
willcookethanks seb12815:59
ricotzkenvandine, hi, could you take a look at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+snap/gedit or disable it if it won't work16:14
kenvandinericotz, i plan to fix that16:16
kenvandinericotz, sorry about that, it's the relative git submodule for libgd16:17
ricotzkenvandine, alright, I see16:17
kenvandinehaven't figured out how to solve that :)16:18
kenvandinebut i want those daily builds16:18
ricotzok, maybe disable it until then16:18
kenvandineok16:18
kenvandinei'll do that16:18
kenvandineat least the automated builds16:18
ricotzthanks, less launchpad spam ;)16:19
kenvandinei'm really good at ignoring LP spam :)16:19
kenvandinesorry about that16:19
kenvandinericotz, disabled16:19
ricotzthanks16:20
ulyssesHey guys, I accidentally botched my radeon config file, and I'm stuck in Wayland and csan't get to the file due to its root restrictions16:49
ulyssesAny advice on how to restore the file to its defaults?16:49
ulyssesI know how to fix it, it's just a matter of getting to the root file16:49
gQuigsulysses: maybe I'm missing something... but use a VT?16:50
ulyssesI have but one machine and I need to fix thing so I can get back on Xorg or Mate16:52
ulyssesWayland is great and all, but it's not exactly up to par yet16:52
ulyssesA vt?16:52
gQuigsulysses: what's the file you are trying to edit and how are you currently trying?16:53
ulyssesI've been trying to get into it through root nautilus16:53
ulyssesbut Wayland doesn't support that16:53
gQuigsulysses: what is the filename and path?16:55
gQuigsyou could just open a terminal and do sudo nano path-to-filename16:55
ulyssesI'm trying to remember the directory16:56
mgedminIIRC you can open admin:/// in nautilus (via ctrl-l), this lets you edit files as root16:56
ulyssesHow does one do that?16:56
ulyssesPardon my ignorance, I've been out of the game for a bit16:57
mgedminlaunch nautilus, press ctrl-l, type admin:///, press Enter16:57
mgedminyou get, effectively, a root nautilus that works on wayland16:57
gQuigsthat's neat16:58
ulyssesDude that's really awesome16:58
ulyssesThank you so much16:58
jhodappkenvandine, seb128 do you know if we plan to enable macsec support for wpa_supplicant for 18.04?17:24
kenvandinei have no idea17:25
jhodappkenvandine, who controls that package?17:25
jhodappfor classic17:26
kenvandinei think cyphermox17:26
jhodappcyphermox, can you confirm?17:27
cyphermoxnot really17:34
cyphermoxwhomever can upload it, I think Julian was doing a merge though17:35
cyphermoxyeah, merge is done17:36
jhodappcyphermox, any idea if we'll support macsec with wpa_supplicant for 18.04?18:26
cyphermoxjhodapp: there are no specific plans18:28
jhodappcyphermox, any reason why or just from omission?18:29
cyphermoxno reason, and not omission, it's just not come up18:29
jhodappcyphermox, ok18:30
cyphermoxI do not routinely make wpa changes18:30
jhodappcyphermox, yeah, besides taking in the latest package version18:31
willcookenight all18:52
cyphermoxcan someone please tell me whether/how snaps are integrating with the running desktop session? I have installed the gnome-characters snap, but I can't seem to find it in the applications list, same for Telegram18:52
tjaaltoninstalled snaps don't seem to be executable from the gnome search thing?18:53
tjaaltonor am I missing some pkg18:53
cyphermoxright, that's what I see18:53
cyphermoxno idea if I'm missing something though ;)18:53
tjaaltonoh, echo :)18:54
cyphermoxindeed :)18:54
tjaaltonI've got a fresh bionic and have been trying snaps for the first time today18:54
tjaalton'snap run spotify' seems to work, but the app can't be marked 'favourite' on the sidebar18:55
tjaaltonand since I installed it via 'snap install spotify', the software gui still thinks it's not installed and just gives a failure when trying to install it18:56
tjaaltonkenvandine: ^ I see you've replied here that this should work https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/gnome-3-shell-snaps-integration/2678/519:09
tjaaltonkenvandine: i mean shell integration19:09
kenvandinetjaalton, yeah19:13
kenvandinetjaalton, are you not seeing icons for snaps?19:13
kenvandinetjaalton, oh, i just read back19:13
kenvandinetjaalton, cyphermox: it should just work19:13
tjaaltonno, if I search, the only hit is the "link" to software center, or whatever it's called19:13
kenvandinesnap info spotify19:14
tjaaltondoesn't matter which snap19:14
kenvandinehmm19:14
tjaaltonthey all are the same19:14
kenvandinei am running 17.10 and it's fine.  I have bionic in a VM as well19:15
kenvandineand i see the icons19:15
kenvandineor it was a week ago :)19:15
davmor2showing for me in neon19:15
* kenvandine updates the bionic vm19:16
tjaaltoncould it be locale?19:16
kenvandinedoubtful19:16
tjaaltonk19:16
kenvandineworking fine for me in my bionic VM, doing a dist-upgrade and will reboot to confirm nothing broke19:19
kenvandinetjaalton, echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS19:22
kenvandine?19:22
jbichais it still necessary to log out and log back in after installing a snap for the first time?19:23
kenvandinenope19:23
cyphermoxkenvandine: XDG_DATA_DIRS is empty here; new install from a few days ago19:26
cyphermoxmy test case is gnome-characters19:26
kenvandinethat's not good19:26
kenvandinesnapd provides a script to set that19:27
kenvandinesnapd: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/65snappy19:27
kenvandinenot there on bionic now :(19:27
kenvandinecyphermox, can you please file a bug against the snapd package?19:27
cyphermoxsure.19:27
kenvandinethx19:27
cyphermoxI did think I had seen telegram and vscode show up before ;)19:28
tjaaltonkenvandine: shows up empty19:28
cyphermoxtjaalton: bug 174799319:31
ubot5bug 1747993 in snapd (Ubuntu) "XDG_DATA_DIRS not set to allow access to software from Applications list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174799319:31
kenvandinecyphermox, that was definitely set before19:31
cyphermoxI agree, see it on my laptop19:31
tjaaltoncyphermox: thanks19:32
kenvandinethis is interesting, even without that file the variable should still be set19:33
kenvandineecho $XDG_SESSION_TYPE19:33
kenvandineand19:33
kenvandineecho $XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP19:34
kenvandineplease19:34
kenvandineoh, it looks like snapd moved that from Xsession.d to /etc/profile.d/apps-bin-path.sh19:36
tjaaltonhuh19:40
tjaaltonwayland19:41
tjaaltonshouldn't be19:41
kenvandinetjaalton, this should work in wayland or xorg19:41
kenvandinesnapd in 17.10 has scripts in both profile.d and Xsession.d for setting that19:42
kenvandinebut in bionic it only has the script in profile.d19:42
tjaaltonwell, it works with xorg just fine19:42
tjaaltonno idea why the session changed19:43
kenvandineinteresting19:43
kenvandinemy VM is xorg of course19:43
kenvandineso i guess i never tested this in wayland on bionic19:43
tjaaltonseb128: looks like darktable snap runs fine on xorg. for some reason I was using wayland session..20:08

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