[00:00] or journalctl === jstein_ is now known as jstein [00:03] It works... I re-wrote the / line and it simply does... thank you... everytime I have to deal with something ill fix it after I rush onto some irc... oh well :D [00:08] hello [00:09] so when I try to boot into ubuntu all it gives is the normal loading screen and then a blinking _ [00:09] note I am running a dual boot with a win10 [00:10] @digital_light, do you have an Nvidia GPU? [00:11] yes [00:12] a 1070 [00:12] type "-nomodeset" at the blank prompt and hit enter [00:12] no quotes [00:12] I have tried typing and nothing appears on screen [00:13] but I will try it. brb switching to mobile [00:16] And back [00:17] So it was -nomodeset right? [00:17] Yes [00:18] Nothing [00:18] Note i changed the drivers to the official ones from nvidia a long time ago [00:19] Well that was a disaster. I got it to load up the USB of Ubuntu and it was like "Install" so I picked that one [00:19] The weirdest part is that it worked tgis morning [00:19] It formatted my drive then was like "GRUB can't install to /target/ without GRUB you can't do anything" [00:19] I paraphrase of course === coXZist1 is now known as coXZist [00:19] So now Windows is gone, and I don't have Ubuntu. When I try to run Ubuntu live it can't find a network device [00:20] But I can load up Ubuntu from USB live boot, though with no networking and install fails [00:21] I am probably going to have to reinstall won't i... [00:24] According to askubuntu if you have this problem and have internet while installing everything will work somehow. But I don't know why Ubuntu says I have no network devices. Very frustrating. I am using someone else's laptop for now [00:24] So i shut it down and it loads the screen and the in the top left it something along the lines of [something] reboot:shutdown [00:30] Is there a way to get my FiiO E07K DAC to work on Ubuntu? I plug it in, but any audio device I test doesn't play sound though it [00:32] Oh wait, now it's working... Cool === bs_ is now known as bs [00:39] What is the difference between ubuntu 16 lts and 17? [00:40] digital_light: You'll have to be most specific. Packages will be newer with 17 obviously [00:41] Well what are the advantages of one vs the other? === mkv is now known as m4v [00:42] digital_light: LTS has a longer support period so you have to upgrade less, which can be a plus. LTS is generally more stable, but non-LTS is considered stable as well [00:42] digital_light: Non-LTS has newer packages though, which could be considered a plus [00:43] That setup seems weird to me but what ever [00:48] Is it possible to change output audio settings, like the Hz? [00:49] the logitech c920 is not listed on uvc website but looks like it's compatible...? [00:51] TJ- , kostkon any chance you tried a logitech C920 and it works? It looks like they support UVC (logitech providing UVC drivers for windows) [00:51] most of uvc support is for notebook, I don't want to strip notebook of a webcam :P === coXZist1 is now known as coXZist === jj_ is now known as segersjerry [01:35] hello [01:36] o/ [01:38] hello i want to ask how to install arduino ide on bodhi linux ? i have install but when i slect the board option cannot scrooll [01:40] Can I make it so byobu will automatically close down a session if I give it a NOHUP rather than an exit? [01:40] I mean SIGHUP [01:42] I could also make do with a trap one-liner [01:45] ? === newdimension_ is now known as newdimension [02:01] Got my motherboard working again after the BIOS update. Ubuntu installer still has kernel panics before accomplishing anything on my Ryzen [02:01] Okay, now can I have byobu-launcher launch a new session each time rather than trying to attach to an existing session? Reading some tmux docs helped [02:04] I could go ahead and modify the byobu scripts, but I'd rather not [02:05] Are there any boot options or anything i can use to try to get the installer to function? [02:06] . [02:06] As always, try to get logs on hand [02:07] Does it panic if you boot to recover mode? [02:07] Question. Im doing a ctf security game.. Supposed to look in a folder, which has 7 files. -file00, -file01, and etc. Its in the only one that is human readable, as it says. i know i can just cat each one, but if there were a 1000 of em, that would suck.. so how does this whole ' find -readable' work ? [02:07] it returns all 7 as readable [02:07] which they all contain ascii text , but only one is readable [02:07] human readable anyways [02:08] Mine panics on initial install attempt from USB [02:08] saludos [02:08] ad [02:08] the installer does not load past GRUB [02:08] soy nuevo en el chat [02:09] Ok so i could use some help find where the drivers for wifi cards are... [02:10] I just did a fresh install and my wifi card isnt working (expected) but icant remember what commands i had to run to install the default drovers [02:10] Pls excuse spelling i am on mobile [02:12] @headerx unless you know that people are encoding in legacy formats, do a first pass for utf-8 encoding [02:13] utf-8 detection isn't much, but it can definitively identify text utf-8 encoded text files as such [02:13] If not, then you're going to have to dig deeper into charset detection [02:14] Trying to update gives me an error with libgphoto2-6_2.5.9-3_i386.deb. I can't install Synaptic. How can I fix my updates? === FrankF1 is now known as FrankF [02:16] headrx: would something like "find /whatever/dir -exec head -n 1 {} +" work [02:18] i cant get that command to take at all [02:18] expecting argument to exec [02:18] no quotes [02:18] i mean, i know that the file07 had my answer [02:18] the {} + at the end is important [02:18] but im trying to find a more effiecent way to do it [02:19] you may need to do \{\} depending on your shell settings [02:19] Still didnt work [02:19] well, i don't know what to tell you then, it works on my machine [02:19] I got it not to panic this time up, but it seems to be stuck in a loop [02:19] worked that time [02:20] i mean, its handy, i can cat each file, no big deal, but if it was 1k files, that would be rough [02:20] gotta be a better way to doi t [02:20] headrx: because this is what it's supposed to do: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/OVNLgdUxTBoGIUWK2CQd/ [02:22] headrx: the idea is it would find each file in the given directory, then run "head -n 1 $FILENAME" [02:22] headrx: basically printing the first line of every file [02:23] if you had a big directory of 1,000 files, you could pipe it to a pager, like less or most [02:23] https://paste.pound-python.org/show/l2Ijo0w9Z91ZqEy2gWeZ/ [02:24] that looks like it works to me [02:24] im assuming there isnt really a human readable sort of search query.. i mean i know there is the file -readable [02:24] but alas, thanks amigo [02:25] readable doesn't refer to human readable [02:25] it refers to whether or not you or programs have file permission to read that file [02:25] basically, "skip files you would otherwise get permission denied errors about" [02:26] as for human readable, it's not quite as easy as that [02:26] because how do you define "human readable" [02:26] The best you can really do with "human readable" off the shelf is charset detection for a bunch of common encodings [02:27] Anyone want to try and help get my wifi card working [02:27] If you need better than that, you're going to have to cobble up some of your own tools, and maybe train a machine learning model [02:27] file07 in your example here, for instance, is technically valid plain text, but "koReBOKuIDDepwhWk7jZC0RTdopnAYKh" doesn't mean anything in any human language ;-) [02:28] "file" makes some attempts to detect human languages [02:28] at lest it used to [02:29] Where are the deb files for the default wifi card drovers? [02:29] Drivers * [02:29] jerichowasahoax: correct [02:29] digital_light: for what wifi card [02:31] I honestly cant remember but when i set up this machine before i think i ended up using the drivers that came with ubuntu [02:31] that's not helpful; there's no "one size fits all" driver [02:32] I know... let try amd dig up the manual [02:33] Hi === Vilegent is now known as kk4ewt [02:34] Ok it is a asus ac1900 pcie adapter [02:36] um, quick question . want to search the entire computer. find - - ? [02:36] whats my path [02:36] " ./ " [02:36] ./ is the current directory [02:37] wherever you were when you executed the command, affected by cd [02:37] Hi. Is there a way to view all the latest system logs combined, instead of hunting down syslog, kernel, auth, dpkg, etc? [02:37] do find / if you want to search everything [02:37] mostdef, probably not [02:37] did some clever soul make some tool that would give you a stream sourced from all those logs? [02:37] figures :( [02:38] headrx: for the ENTIRE computer, i'd probably use some sort of indexing search tool [02:38] headrx: which i think "locate" is [02:39] mostdef: which version of ubuntu [02:39] jerichowasahoax: 16.04 [02:40] Wtf why is gnome shell taking 90%+ of my cpu (i7-6700k) [02:40] mostdef: i think you can get journalctl to do that somehow [02:40] jerichowasahoax: but if you got a solution for 18.04, I'd love to hear it, cause I'll install that when it's out [02:40] jerichowasahoax: OK, off to read up [02:41] mostdef: i won't say 100% for sure that you can, because i only ever look up specific units, e.g. "journalctl -u postfix" [02:41] mostdef: but i THINK maybe [02:41] jerichowasahoax: hey, it's a lead [02:41] that's the spirit! [02:41] So. I have an asus ac-1900 and i need some help finding/installing the drivers [02:41] Any ideas on the installer panicking? I'm about to give up and just stick to the Windows 10 install that is working on the machine. [02:42] Any ideas for what? [02:42] I'm unable to install Ubuntu because the installer fails to load past GRUB [02:43] Remake your install disk === abomb_ is now known as abomb [02:43] I did. I've also tried Ubuntu server and Lubuntu [02:43] digital_light: google suggests your wifi card is broadcom based [02:43] digital_light: i'm very sorry [02:44] find / -user bandit7 -group bandit6 -size 33c 2>/dev/null [02:44] Whats wrong with that? [02:44] what does the 2>/dev/null [02:44] mean [02:44] digital_light: you have to download a tool called b43-fwcutter and extract firmware blobs from the windows drivers to get it to work [02:45] headrx: redirects file descriptor 2 (usually standard error) to /dev/null [02:45] headrx: or, as it's usually used, "mute error messages" [02:46] i see, so only send the non-errors to the stdout [02:46] yeah [02:46] excellent [02:46] Is there a way for ssh to send a value of an environmental variable different than what the system is [02:46] Im assuming the way im learning linux isnt a terrible one (super basic ctf's).. any suggestions on CTF's or maybe a video course on linux fundamentals? [02:47] so, like in my env has E=0 but E=1 is sent through ssh [02:47] eaglgenes101: where does E come from, do you know [02:47] I have an ext4 formatted usb drive. It mounts fine, but 'ls' fails saying permission denied when I am logged in using guest session. A vfat formatted drive works as expected. [02:48] It's a metasyntactic variable, the variable could equivalently be FOO [02:48] So b43-fwcutter actually comes with linux (found the deb in thw installs folder) now how do i extract it from the windows drivers? [02:48] eaglgenes101: oh, i didn't see the first part of your question [02:48] Is this a bug in ubuntu? This is the behaviour in both 12.04 and 16.04 [02:49] eaglgenes101: well, i don't know of a direct way to configure SSH to do that [02:50] eaglgenes101: but if you configure it to send whatever the "current" value is from your environment, you could do "E=1 ssh targetbox.example.net" [02:51] hm [02:52] is vi included in mate desktop [02:52] You can try it yourself [02:52] larry__: the two aren't related, but i do believe vi comes standard with all ubuntu flavors [02:52] I don't know which exact program is the terminal emulator in mate, but I imagine it's easy enough to find [02:52] Once you have it open, type vi, then hit enter [02:52] If you have it, vi will fill up the screen [02:53] jerichowasahoax: journalctl does do it. but I don't think Ubuntu is fully making use of it for all components. When I booted up the system, I got a "system error" Ubuntu wanted me to report. Alas, no details to be found in journalctl. [02:54] the included vi is a crippled version, apt install vim to get the full on [02:54] mostdef: ubuntu was still relatively new to systemd by 16.04, the situation might improve in 18.04 [02:54] rip matrix.org [02:54] let's hope so [02:55] i did but insert mode doesnt seem to work properly [02:55] larry__: apt install vim [02:55] larry__: because the default version of vi is more like the original, "POSIX" vi...which sucks [02:56] larry__: as ecormier said, you probably want "apt install vim" for a properly usable version [02:56] will it work on ubuntu desktop [02:56] yes [02:57] Is there ever a reason gnome shell would use 90% of an i7-6700k [02:58] cool thanks guys, im a centos 7 server and have changed my desktop to mate [02:58] Because it is really bogging my sustem down [02:58] System* [02:59] It's just a heavyweight [02:59] If you want a lighter desktop environment, mate, kde, and xfce all have official ubuntu flavors [03:00] What is it even doing? [03:00] so they should all work [03:00] *shrugs* [03:00] oh and lxde [03:00] which is the lightest [03:01] unless you like the idea of configuring a window manager yourself [03:01] what app is used for create bloc schemes? [03:01] I've got gnome running here and it's not taxing my system like that... maybe it's wayland? [03:01] Wayland? [03:02] when you log in you can choose xorg over wayland [03:02] gnome shell shouldn't be using 90% [03:03] Right now i am trying (and failing) to get my wifi to work [03:03] So unless someone is willing to hook up gnome to a profiler and figuring out what it's doing, I think this is the best we can say [03:04] digital_light: you can open a terminal and run top to see which process is eating up your cpu [03:05] Gnome-shell @ any where from 1%-98% [03:06] digital_light: I would log in with xorg to test (if you're on 17.10) and also check to see if there is proprietary drivers for your video card [03:06] If you want to know what it's doing specifically, compile it yourself with profiling info and run gprof [03:06] Gnome shell doesn't use that much cpu, so I'd guess it's a video problem [03:07] Then send the results over to upstream [03:07] eaglgenes101: that isn't helpful [03:07] fair enough [03:08] I dont even have wifi... i am not compiling anything yet [03:08] I'm running gnome, with about 13 windows open on 3 monitors including a webbrowser and I'm using about 2% cpu [03:09] Even top is saying it usomg lime 200% of my cpu ??? [03:09] Using* [03:09] I doubt it's a gnome problem and more a setup problem... like I said before... most likely video issues [03:09] digital_light: which version of ubuntu are you running [03:09] 17.10.1 [03:09] Fresh install [03:10] so log out and after entering your password don't press enter but click the little gear and select gnome on xorg [03:10] see if that makes a difference [03:11] (either a gear or 'select session' [03:11] we can only guess looking from the outside [03:11] but follow the other guys's advice [03:11] I'm running a gaming-spec ultrabook, so I don't see performance issues on a regular basis [03:11] Doesn't seem like anyone has any ideas on the failed install, going to askubuntu.com with the issue. [03:11] ? [03:13] I can't install ubuntu from USB. I've tried Ubuntu server and lubuntu, verified fat32 and UEFI. The system kernel panics once install is selected from GRUB [03:14] I've also tried 2.0 and 3.0 ports [03:14] Do checksums check out? [03:14] I'm not sure how to verify a checksum [03:15] There should be an option to verify the integrity of the disk or something of that sort [03:15] Ok still give ridiculous number some times (100+) but seems stable ~30% [03:16] Rufus didn't complain after putting the ISO on the USB [03:16] digital_light: one more thing to check, open the 'software & updates' program and go to the 'additional drivers' tab and see if you can enable something for your video card [03:17] I have a slight issue... i haven't got internet yet [03:18] I'm not sure you need it for this [03:18] try it anyways, if it doesn't work try again after you're connected [03:18] test [03:18] I'm not seeing a "verify image* check box with Rufus [03:19] When it boots, I mean [03:19] There should be an option to check disk integrity [03:19] What tab would it be? [03:20] additional drivers [03:20] Ah, let me try that [03:20] ...just to check, when you set the computer to boot off the disk, you get a GRUB menu, right? [03:20] Yeah [03:20] What do the options read [03:22] Try Lubuntu without installing, Install Lubuntu, OEM Install (for manufacturers), Check disc for defects [03:22] My most recent attempt was with Lubuntu [03:23] does anyone know what happened to the Ctrl + Alt + Num# shortcuts for moving windows in GNOME? seems they are no longer in 17.10 [03:23] Check disc for defects also causes a Kernel Panic [03:23] No idea. [03:24] jyc: check the keyboard settings 'keyboard shortcuts' [03:24] ecormier: awesome, thanks! :) [03:24] yw [03:25] * pantera [03:26] For reference, Windows 10 is currently operating fine on this machine [03:26] Oh yeah... i ran into this before.... i dont have the essentials installed... [03:26] Build-essentials [03:27] For other reference, Windows 10 is the reason 17.10 is on this machine. [03:27] digital_light: if this doesn't help, maybe updating your system after you're net enabled will help [03:28] I'd much prefer to be running Ubuntu, yes [03:28] I mean to get net enabled [03:28] Unfortunately Ubuntu is not cooperating [03:28] thanks guys vim works perfectly [03:28] :) [03:28] @Cousarr what's wrong? [03:29] nothing now [03:29] (Cousarr) I can't install ubuntu from USB. I've tried Ubuntu server and lubuntu, verified fat32 and UEFI. The system kernel panics once install is selected from GRUB [03:29] Hey, is there any sort of dotfiles addon that will warn you of imminent end-of-life for your distro? [03:29] I was going to implement it for my dotfiles but figured id check around first [03:29] Can you burn it on a DVD? [03:30] I remember years ago buying a DVD or something for Ubuntu when I was on dialup. [03:31] Then I got stuck in windows land for a few years... [03:31] I can try. I don't have any DVDs on hand [03:31] @pantera, LOL [03:31] I have CDs, but Ubuntu is too large [03:31] A spindle of discs is like 15 bucks tho lol [03:31] what r u trying to install it on [03:31] There are smaller stacks rolandbeowulf [03:31] Do you have a jump drive? [03:31] I'd send you one but... === TreyNTX69 is now known as treyTX [03:32] I'm sure you have a friend near that has one? [03:32] If you're looking for alternative installation methods, but you *could* potentially try setting up PXE on your network and getting it on that way [03:32] Unsure how this would get better results than a USB boot though === treyTX is now known as TreyNTX69 [03:32] System specs: imgur.com/a/7zxuS [03:33] what version re u trying to install [03:33] I'd go grab some DVDs before trying to get PXE to work [03:33] Cousarr: if you don't plan on dual booting you could try turning off secure boot to see if that helps [03:33] I've tried Ubuntu server and Lubuntu [03:33] Your computer is too fast for linux. [03:33] So are you trying to get some flavour of linux on your PC or just ubuntu? [03:34] if the former try booting up a flavour designed for USB boot first [03:34] like Gparted USB [03:34] turn off secure boot and enabled legacy in the bios then reinstall [03:34] Honestly any flavor of Linux would work, i just want to run FFMPEG without my computer deciding to reboot in the middle of the night [03:34] Something super simple and minimal to rule out everything on the application level [03:34] idk [03:34] larry__: you don't need to enable legacy, efi should work fine [03:34] or do what larry_ says [03:34] lol [03:35] works foe me [03:35] legacy is so 2003 [03:35] i was running windows and and ubuntu loaded fine [03:36] windows 10 [03:36] if your machine has efi, you should use it [03:36] I'm using UEFI [03:36] yes i agree [03:37] HWhat does this mean ? The password for the next level is stored in the file data.txt, where all lowercase (a-z) and uppercase (A-Z) letters have been rotated by 13 positions [03:37] what does it mean rotated [03:38] headrx, google rot13 [03:38] im running ubuntu 14.04 server on a hp g5 server wnd in kvm a red hat server [03:39] Won't i have to reimage the install for BIOS if i enable legacy? [03:39] It's currently set up for UEFI [03:40] u have a choice when installing [03:40] fom usb [03:40] BUT that could mess with the windows install... [03:40] right, but the image was specifically a UEFI boot, so no MBR or something like that [03:41] I'm downloading Gparted now to give that a go [03:41] ok i see [03:42] I'm going to take the dog out while that downloads [03:44] nite guys [03:44] o/ [03:48] Gparted downloaded, making the boot USB now [03:48] night larry_ === dingir___ is now known as dingir [03:50] Gparted Kernel-panics just the same as Ubuntu [03:51] that's not good... [03:51] IDK. You're trying to dual boot right? [03:51] Cousarr: what was the link to your machine specs? [03:52] Imgur.com/a/7zxuS [03:53] I'd like to dual boot so i have the option for Windows when not doing FFMPEG stuff === pantera is now known as pantera_ [03:53] Cousarr: for fun, try systemrescuecd http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/ [03:54] I'm guessing you are going to need something with a much newer kernel [03:54] On USB again? [03:54] *bleeding edge [03:54] yep === pantera_ is now known as pantera [03:54] it's most likely not a usb problem [03:55] my next test would be to test the ram from the boot menu [03:55] Okay, downloading [03:55] Can you boot into the USB drive you made? [03:55] try running the cd first though to see if it still panics with the newer kernel [03:55] Like to give it a spin on the machine. [03:56] Windows RAM test came back SAT when I checked earlier [03:56] not windows ram test [03:56] linux ram test [03:57] windows turns a blind eye to ram issues that linux refuses to run on [03:57] What are you asking for, pantera? The USB boots, but won't launch the application. [03:57] Cousarr, I'm a relative noob, so this could be worthless, but have you tried both the usb3 port and the usb2 port? For instance, I can't get my wacom tablet working on a usb3 port, but it just works on a usb2 port. [03:57] I have, yeah. Both front and back. [03:57] k [03:58] Valid try though. [03:58] that shouldn't make any difference with a block device [03:58] if it didn't work, you wouldn't get the boot menu [03:58] So you are able to boot into the USB but it hangs up when trying to install. [03:58] Yeah [03:58] And you've partitioned the drives or does the installer do that? [03:58] I'd guess a ram/hardware issue [03:59] I have unpartitioned space standing by [03:59] could be faulty, could be too new [04:00] Another 4 mins on the rescue CD download [04:00] I've been living in gentoo world for the last 8 years, but I've seen ram issues frequently enough [04:01] DDR4 is expensive. I hope it's not the RAM [04:01] This is now over my head. One last thing I'd try would be to partition and format the drive you want to install to in the OS that's on there then try again.. [04:01] Cousarr: if it is, RMA [04:02] It's past RMA, I pulled it out of an older machine [04:02] mmm that make it even more suspect :{ [04:02] it's just a blind guess though [04:04] I've been watching this: https://youtu.be/wBp0Rb-ZJak 7+ hour video off and on all day. [04:04] Making the USB now [04:05] It's a good refresher for stuff I unlearned but ffs it's long. [04:05] Only 3.5 hours into it. [04:06] Cousarr: hopefully it's not this: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/254750-amd-replaces-ryzen-cpus-users-affected-rare-linux-bug [04:07] Is there a way to dpkg all deb files in a folder? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [04:07] Yeah. I already updated the BIOS to hopefully get around that being a thing. [04:07] I tried sudo dpkg -i *.deb but that only selects the first match [04:09] digital_light: maybe something like: for f in *.deb ; do sudo dpkg -i $f ; done [04:09] System rescue CD did not kernel panic [04:10] Cousarr: then you might just need a distro with a newer kernel [04:10] check the kernel version: uname -a [04:11] Hmm... It seems to have froze at attempting to mount /dev/sda2 [04:11] Cousarr: see if there's anything in dmesg [04:12] Where would i find that? [04:12] if you can, open a terminal and run: dmesg [04:13] I opened a terminal in Grub, it doesn't know Dmesg [04:14] not in grub, you'd neet to open it in X or login to a tty [04:14] Is that possible without a working Linux version? [04:15] Cousarr: I thought you said you booted systemrescuecd [04:15] It got past the initial kernel stuff and froze in device mounting [04:15] can you try ram test from the grub menu [04:17] Tried launching it with disable-kernel-mode-settings. It panicked [04:17] I'm not seeing a RAM test in the grub menu [04:17] Cousarr: I'm out of ideas.... maybe try updating the efi firmware.... [04:18] digital_light: is there a recursive operator? [04:18] Hmm, it panicked this time when i tried to do a normal launch [04:18] yeah that sounds like hardware/kernel issues [04:19] I can maybe do a UBCD memory test [04:19] Idk. I am still new to shell [04:19] Also i cant find a package dpkg-dev [04:19] It is need for build-essentials [04:20] digital_light: according to man, the -r operator is for remove so don't use that! [04:21] Downloading UBCD now [04:22] Wait i think i got it! [04:22] Cousarr: if it was me, I'd try legacy boot at this point to test but I'm now officially out of ideas.... [04:22] -i, --install package-file... [04:22] Install the package. If --recursive or -R option is specified, [04:22]