[00:15] And if anyone knows if that work is being completed, it'd be our resident @notkit [00:16] With your ears to the ground, have you heard of how O support is coming along? [00:24] pandaswarm was added by: pandaswarm [02:32] Davilka was added by: Davilka [02:32] Welcome Ja and @pandaswarm and @Davilka to UBports. Feel free to ask us anything. [02:33] And check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for more information about language groups and faqs. [03:55] What's up folks! [05:18] Welcome! [06:19] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/K3IoXsbo/file_4114.png [06:19] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/vELMmPu0/file_4116.png [06:29] @popescu_sorin, What device??? [06:39] xiaomi mi4 [06:39] it's from g+ [06:40] @Flohack https://plus.google.com/104798820055597165272/posts/F2WR71RbLKQ [06:41] Hmm its a uszal port or smth special ? xD [06:42] i have no idea :D [06:53] it's from same shen though [06:59] sabret00the was added by: sabret00the [07:06] @UniversalSuperBox, mal from #salfishos-porters did work on hybris-15 tree, but it was only build-tested so far [07:12] @NotKit, where can i find this hybris 15? [07:14] check repos at https://github.com/mlehtima, it's not uploaded yet to mer-hybris [07:17] thanks! [07:45] Anyone know how to get An box running on 16.04 Ubuntu touch? [07:46] @KiritoDX, What device do you have [07:47] Nexus 5 [07:48] Anbox images are stored on cdimage.ubports.com [07:48] However, hammerhead image has not been posted [07:49] They are in the works, but all the bugs specific to each device needs to be worked out. [07:49] I thought the support was built into 16.10? [07:49] No [07:50] It's not [07:50] To my knowledge it's device specific [07:50] Ahh OK. So would you install the img from recovery or through snapd ? [07:51] I'll have to dig it up... But if I can recall it's installed thru the ubports recovery [07:52] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html [07:52] Sorry for the noob questions lol, after reading about it couldn't figure out why it wouldn't install. [07:54] No worries. I'm noobish too. I'm struggling with porting SailfishOS to my OnePlus 5. [07:55] What ya struggling with? Anyone you know been able to dual boot android and UT? [07:56] Tried multiform but cant get it to boot android all the way after [07:56] Multirom [07:57] Wifi, cellular, sound... to name a few don't work. But it boots into the GUI [07:57] Got the vendor blobs? [07:57] I booted Ubuntu touch and Android on my Nexus 5 about two years ago [07:58] You'll need to get the modded multirom specific to ubports to get it to work [07:59] Damn, lol back to the hunt I guess. So do you have the device tree and vendor blobs for yours? [08:07] Anyone have experience with Eagle? I'm having trouble learning it. Just direct message me a link to a practical tutorial for of mother boards, I'll figure the rest out. [08:13] It's for Ubuntu touch, and to use helium to install it. [08:15] Halium* [08:16] https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/using-eagle-schematic [08:34] @wollie88, Thank you. I appreciate it a lot. [08:43] @popescu_sorin, How?? via bootloader or something else?? [08:45] Designing my own phone board, but learning Eagle ground up because I'm learning I can't rely on my friends. [08:46] Do you have a electronics background ? [08:49] Barely, from following tutorials and wiring guilt parts. So I'll be safe on voltages and soldering. But ground up is very new. [08:58] I dont want to discourage you but designing building and debugging a phone mainboard from the ground up isnt exactly a one man job. [09:09] I'm aware, my friends and aquitaine, just turned out to be unreliable. [09:16] I work in electronics and have some years of experience, if you want to you can message me when you need some guidance [09:18] @wollie88, Thank you, will do. [09:18] As I have only the phone, u don't have search in telegram, so sorry for the duplicate question - is it possible to run desktop apps with the external display connected [09:20] @G, Yes, also without it [09:20] You have to set up libertine [09:20] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html [09:23] @dkvish, i don't know :/ [09:41] I found MI4 author and his source [09:42] @wayneoutthere, I found MI4 author and his source [09:43] @Flohack, I found MI4 author and his source，https://github.com/kuailexs/android [09:44] Wow. I can smell one more supported device! 😆 [09:46] He is also the MI4 author of sailfish [09:46] (Photo, 393x166) https://irc.ubports.com/834fmZEo/file_4118.jpg [09:47] (Photo, 780x253) https://irc.ubports.com/AhWadlGK/file_4120.jpg [09:47] maxxxroma was added by: maxxxroma [09:47] @maxxxroma, Welcome! [09:53] http://www.miui.com/thread-11986832-1-1.html [09:58] Cool! [09:58] Can we find out if he speaks english? This port is made with the old porting base, but we need him to try halium port, so we are upwards compatible [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/bzqJ6BEf/file_4122.jpg [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/7fVqQPk6/file_4123.jpg [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/yjwtvty2/file_4121.jpg [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/mNjXPXcQ/file_4124.jpg [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/QweiroK2/file_4125.jpg [09:59] (Photo, 598x800) https://irc.ubports.com/lVqyQX0Z/file_4124.jpg [10:02] (Photo, 861x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tyDY0EpY/file_4127.jpg [10:04] @Flohack, Although he found him, but I temporarily can not contact him [10:04] Ok thanks for the pictures but I think its enough now ;) [10:05] JABUTIKO was added by: JABUTIKO [10:10] @Flohack someone else started working on halium base for this device. Mattia i think .. he's not that free lately though [10:22] @saidinesh5, Ok we need to merge efforts. [10:26] News alert! [10:26] https://twitter.com/lanux_mage/status/961546655114940416 [10:31] Do you plan to sell phones customized and installed Ubuntu ? [11:21] @hwpplayer1, UBports will not sell phones themselves, we are a foundation, not a company focused on business like that. But if there is a hardware partner who is willing to pre-install Ubuntu Touch, it can be done. #BQ has done in the past [11:26] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/hw38JCo3/file_4128 [11:28] @garrogarri, Thank you! [11:29] @G, you're welcome [11:30] @Flohack, If i may help for this coordination is it okay for you ? [11:30] @hwpplayer1, You can found any compüany you like =) [11:31] I'll talk with PR Canonical after 12 February she is busy now [11:31] I'm travelling with work in the US (West Coast) until 12th Feb so responses may be delayed. If urgent, please message me. She said [11:32] What you need from Canonical ? [11:32] To become partner for business [11:33] Hmm ok but you can do this already now, I don´t know if Canonical will have better resources than what you can find on the Internet. Also; Canonical is not very interested in the phone anymore. [11:35] (Sticker, 512x489) https://irc.ubports.com/Jgdlp0aH/file_4129 [12:32] Hi excuse me for writing here. I encountered this issue with ubport installer. When it run computer get really hot and the van goes all the way. And it goes really slow when saying download of 1 of 12 files. Tried on Windows 7 and lubuntu 16.04. [12:32] Can't get to install ubport on a nexus 5 :( [12:35] @Gabriele, Try a different usb cable. We can provide detailed help @WelcomePlus [12:37] htcdev [12:37] @Gabriele, We must catch that van! 😹 [12:41] Hi guys, do you know what modules/audio drivers are used by UT? I tried the following command: … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav … 1) In a terminal window, everything runs smoothly … 2) In a libertine container, I got the following bunch of errors: … root@ubuntu-phablet:/# aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav … ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' … ALSA lib conf.c:4259:(_snd_config [12:41] snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory … ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings … ALSA lib conf.c:4259:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such file or directory … ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name … ALSA lib conf.c:4259:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory … ALSA lib conf.c:4738:(snd_c [12:41] error: No such file or directory … ALSA lib pcm.c:2239:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default … aplay: main:722: audio open error: No such file or directory … Am I missing something? Or is it related to Mir? Because when running vlc, I can hear audio! Any ideas? [13:49] @KiritoDX, you can do dual boot manually, … 1- install UT … 2- copy system.img for data partition (in recovery mode add pull /data/system.img) … 3- Install android … 4- push system.img to data (adb push system.img /data/) … 5- You can use android without anything to do … 6- If you want run UT, just reboot to bootloader, and run fastboot boot boo.img (or ubport-boot.img if halium) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [14:02] @Walid, What device are you referring to? [14:10] @Walid, i believe the last command is "fastboot flash boot boo.img" [14:10] you missed the flash part [14:12] @saidinesh5, Yes, hwcomposer works but i've got some Little problem [14:23] @Gravo, the sound should go through PulseAudio [14:23] not sure if there is ALSA compatibility set up [14:24] @NotKit, I just checked all the installed packages in the phone via dpkg, installing missing ones in the container...but always the same errors [14:25] no, I mean... you check this through aplay, which uses ALSA [14:25] VLC probably outputs through PulseAudio by default, and that's what needed for apps [14:26] "1) In a terminal window, everything runs smoothly … 2) In a libertine container, I got the following bunch of errors:" - ah, read your message wrong, sorry [14:27] @NotKit, Don't worry...anyway, thanks! 👍 [14:28] check /etc/asound.conf outside of Libertine [14:28] or ~/.asoundrc (unlikely) [14:28] @vanyasem, no, this just to boot UT, if he reboot phone, android will start [14:28] oh okay [14:29] @TronFortyTwo, moto g 2014, but you can do it at any device [14:37] @NotKit, It doesn't exist...as well as ~/.asoundrc 😞 [14:38] ls /etc/alsa … ls /usr/share/alsa [14:45] Under /etc/ there's no alsa folder! Under /usr/share/alsa/ there are 3 *.conf files: alsa.conf (I think this is the main one), pulse-alsa.conf, smixer.conf [14:54] I can't update my n5 to rc 24, now I'm on rc 23 but it says "the softwareis up to date" 😢 [14:55] @Gravo, You will need to use pulseaudio (paplay). ALSA is not used exactly. The audio is an Android thing and we use it via the hybris layer to use the Android HAL [14:58] I'm not entirely sure how audio from apps in libertine gets played. I think there is some magic to make pulseaudio available via dbus or such [14:59] @dohbee, Oh, good to know! [14:59] @dohbee, Ok, thanks! [15:13] hello! [15:13] what is the status of anbox? [15:14] Hello [15:14] as far as I know it works on 16.04 [15:15] nice [15:16] I am getting a Planet Computers - Gemini PDA, a device that runs both Android and normal Linux [15:16] they have shown that Debian boots/works on it [15:16] so installing Ubuntu should be easy [15:18] is it possible to install the Play store in anbox and install other apps through it? [15:23] @zzarr, I'm working on UBPorts port for it [15:24] I guess Play Store in Anbox is possible with some hacks, but you can use Yalp Store as well [15:25] Anbox site says that you can install Play Store [15:30] It requires some changes in kernel config i think, so the ubuntu images have to be built to specifically support anbox. Currently only a few devices have that, I think. [15:36] okey [15:36] thanks === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:48] I thought of something, would it be possible to run the android part in a vm with it's own kernel? [15:53] I'm trying to start a new translation at the weblate site, in the UBports Docs /Documentation: about project. When I click "Start new translation", I get "Failed to add new translation file!". Are some special permissions needed for that? [15:56] Hello, is there a way to let youtube play in the browser, even when the phone is locked? There are a lot of yt vids i rather listen to than watch. [15:57] @zzarr, i mean, i guess if you want to run a full android in a VM, it's probably possible, but not advisable [15:57] @zzarr, No, very complicated bc of hardware access. How to virtualize all drivers [15:58] it is not how the anbox support in ubports will work, for sure [15:58] @savetier, You can use utweaktool i think to force browser to stay alive [15:59] you can do it only for youtube webapp instead, i think, to avoid having it always doing that in the main browser [15:59] there's no way to do it per-site in the main browser === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [16:11] Fwd from EverythingTechnology: “Biggest iPhone Code Leak?” — Source Code Of The Most Critical Part Of iOS Dumped On GitHub … http://ift.tt/2nRwQVV … @EverythingTechnology via reddit http://ift.tt/2EsAwHS [16:11] little offtopic maybe, but someone here could be interested [16:13] Good job it was removed! :) [16:14] @popeydc, Yeah, DMCA [16:16] well, it still should be possible to find by whoever who wants it [16:18] @dohbee, Thank you very much, Rodney, that did do the trick ;) [16:18] any idea where rotation lock stores the rotation it locks? [16:20] @NotKit, a gsettings key, iirc [16:21] https://github.com/ubports/unity8/commit/cc8051f66bf3569eb2dd6824d7c630a4d6f5a169 - I fount this commit, but it seems it was removed from current version/wasn't merged [16:22] 2014 was a loooooooooong time ago [16:22] the rotation lock indicator didn't even exist then i do't think [16:24] (I don't actually want rotation lock indicator, just to make sure it's landscape by default) [16:25] From a user perspective, is there any big difference running the 15 stable vdrsk [16:25] Version to switching to the devel/16 one? [16:26] I'm here again, but I'll be going in about 5 mins [16:26] my IRC had problems [16:28] zzarr: you got some responses after you go [16:29] " @zzarr, i mean, i guess if you want to run a full android in a VM, it's probably possible, but not advisable", " @zzarr, No, very complicated bc of hardware access. How to virtualize all drivers" [16:31] thanks for those lines Beton, I understand, I thought it was some reason that's not the solution in the first place [16:31] zzarr, currently you need Android kernel and hybris anyway... [16:31] @Jimmie Johnsson, well, 16.04 is not stable, so yeah, that's a pretty big difference [16:32] will (if) google moving to there new kernel complicate anbox stuff very much? [16:32] @NotKit, Free software developers shouldn't really look at it. [16:32] several apps don't work, some features are not on par with what's in stable yet, etc [16:32] @dohbee yeah i understand that, but asides from that is there any big diff in user experience? [16:33] the basics are the same [16:33] the big difference in user experience is things are not stable. hence it is the devel branch :) [16:33] @popeydc, I guess free software developers better avoid fully locked platform in the first place :) [16:33] thanks for all the input, I will be moving now [16:34] I will stay logged in so I can read the discussion tomorrow [16:34] @popeydc, i don't look at code at all. i just smash keys and run the compiler, and it somehow manages to work [16:34] bye [16:34] Ok. Kind of thinkin about messing around with the keyboard layout, if i manage to make any kind of progress with it and wanna contribute its better to be developing in main? [16:35] bye bye, zzarr [16:36] @Jimmie Johnsson, you can create keyboard layouts and fix bugs in the keyboard, all straight on a PC. you don't need to switch the OS version on the phone to do it, unless you want to test the changes on that version on a device [16:38] I think i will need to run it on the phone. Wanna fiddle around with it and see if i can make it feel smoother and nicer. [16:53] Hi! Where is that UBports stores official images? [16:57] on system-image.ubports.com [16:57] but if you're looking for a zip file to flash with TWRP or such, you won't find one === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:59] @dohbee, I know I know😂😂 [16:59] I😉 [17:00] https://hastebin.com/okeriwatid.cs [17:01] @maharudra108, Bro check the error i can't figure out what to do [17:02] @popeydc, Yeah, we still use that. then we have to mirror that. any time set when it will be killed? [17:04] maybe better to ask for help with that in the halium group [17:12] @mariogrip, no set date. [17:13] @popeydc, ok, but will get that mirrored asap, will ping u once im done :) [17:13] thanks! [17:18] @wagafo, Hello. @UniversalSuperBox is this a 'documentation' question and workflow or a 'UBlangs' question/workflow? There is a link back and forth and we should sort this out. For now if you could kindly respond since it's in documentation that would be great. [17:22] @wayneoutthere, Probably it is more general than a "Documentation" question, since it may happen with any new translation in weblate that needs to add a language. [17:23] right. [17:23] what's your mother tongue? [17:24] I'm trying to translate into Catalan (but it is not my mother tongue...) [17:24] no problem. but what is your monther tongue (I have a reason for asking) [17:25] Well, hard to say, I was born Spanish speaking but I've lived in a Catalan speaking country for 40 years now, but this is off-topic, isn't it? [17:26]