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* slangasek waves16:00
sil2100o/16:01
rbalinto/16:01
cyphermoxo/16:01
philrocheo/16:02
Odd_Bloke\o16:02
philrocheDamn it Odd_Bloke! we're waving with our left hand this week16:03
slangaseksorry, running late on a prior meeting16:03
* slangasek shuffles papers16:03
Odd_Blokephilroche: I'm facing the other way.16:03
cyphermoxphilroche: wasn't that our right hand?16:03
xnox"the other side of the hangout" =)16:03
slangasek#startmeeting16:04
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Feb  8 16:04:03 2018 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:04
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:04
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:05
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther juliank)16:05
gaugheno/16:05
slangasekdoko mwhudson juliank cyphermox rcj rbalint xnox sil2100 philroche Odd_Bloke slangasek infinity bdmurray tdaitx fginther tribaal16:05
slangasekdoko: hello!16:05
dokooops16:05
doko- FOSDEM Free Java track16:05
doko- spent most of the time working on migration ...16:05
doko- GCC 8 uploaded, binutils fixed (arm64 kernel builds)16:05
doko- some phone calls this week16:05
doko(done)16:05
slangasekjuliank:16:06
juliankmerges / syncs:16:06
juliank- wget: just a new upstream minor release16:06
juliank- dash: dropping the profiled guiding patches, as there's no measurable gain anymore with systemd booting us16:06
juliankuploaded fixes / features:16:06
juliank- multipath-tools: fixed kpartx regression breaking image builds (bug 1747044)16:06
juliank- ubuntu-release-upgrader: only add valid releases (bug 1744722)16:06
juliank- util-linux: backported lscpu fixes, but blocked by other upload stuck in proposed (bug 1732865)16:06
juliank- software-properties: run apt-get update16:06
ubottubug 1747044 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "kpartx 0.7.4-2ubuntu1 in bionic does not remove loop devices" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174704416:06
ubottubug 1744722 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Artful) "Unknown bad source brings up during 'zesty' to 'artful' upgrade and It break the process" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174472216:06
ubottubug 1732865 in util-linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "[LTCTest][OPAL][FW860.20] lscpu failed to list cpu max and min frequencies" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173286516:06
juliankneeds review:16:06
juliank- ubuntu-release-upgrader: double check source release https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/ubuntu-release-upgrader/double-check-source-release/+merge/337258 (bug 1725359)16:06
juliank- grub2: show shorter version on screen, hide complete one in variable https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/337338 (bug 1723434)16:06
juliank- socat, pv: MIRs. socat might be hard - it overlaps a lot with netcat, previous attempt was cancelled (bug 1746891 [pv])16:06
ubottubug 1725359 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release detection relies on lsb-release" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172535916:06
ubottubug 1723434 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 splash screen displays excessively long package version number" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172343416:06
ubottubug 1746891 in pv (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174689116:06
juliankWiP stuff (upstreams):16:06
juliank- apt: (1) Make it check that 'Date' is not from the future; (2) Switch to C++14, and some cleanup16:06
juliank- multipath-tools: Forwarding the patches for the regression upstream, needs some rework16:06
juliankI guess I should get that stuck apt SRU from last year forward too.16:06
juliank(done)16:06
sil2100This mwhudson guy, always missing our weekly meetings...16:07
sil2100Shame on him16:07
xnoxjuliank, the overlap is known.... is it possible to use netcat on the images that use socat, per chance?16:07
cyphermox- debugging grub2 tftp with slangasek16:07
cyphermox- netplan: added bash completion16:07
cyphermox- netplan: upstream systemd work to support keeping an interface offline but configured at boot16:07
cyphermox- debugging ubuntu-server:live build w/ preinstalled subiquity snap16:07
cyphermox- juju-core SRU of 2.3.2 to xenial16:07
cyphermox- MIR: reviewing libfastjson16:07
cyphermox- various cat herding / administrativia16:07
cyphermox(done)16:07
juliankxnox: I guess somebody else knows more about that :)16:08
rbalint(short week)16:08
rbalint* fix opengcs FTBFS (upstreamed): LP: #174669716:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1746697 in opengcs (Ubuntu) "Opengcs FTBFS on 32 bit architectures" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174669716:08
rbalint* fixed tests for mtd-utils (#889868), now it is in proper shape for MIR16:08
rbalint* internal image testing and testbed setup follow-ups16:08
rbalint(done)16:08
bdmurrayxnox: your turn16:09
xnox#HIGHLIGHT openssl1.1.0 is landing in Ubuntu16:09
xnoxUpgrading opencryptoki to 3.8.216:09
xnoxUpgrading systemd to 237 (autopkgtests fixing stage)16:09
xnoxUbuntu-keyring now ships more keys - e.g. cloud images, simplestreams, dbg16:09
xnoxKeyboard step moved earlier in ubiquity (with sil2100)16:09
xnox(done)16:09
bdmurraysil2100:16:10
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:10
sil2100- Stable kernel reviews and releases (retpoline incoming)16:10
sil2100- Fixing and testing autopilot tests for the early-keyboard ubiquity branch16:10
sil2100  * Released by xnox16:10
sil2100- Fixing the ppp FTBFS after the openssl1.1 rebuild16:10
sil2100- walinuxagent:16:10
sil2100  * Preparing, testing and releasing for bionic16:10
sil2100  * Backporting to stable series, pre-SRU testing, getting approved16:10
sil2100  * Phil prepared test images, waiting for MS to do their testing16:10
sil2100- Fixing the packageset refreshing scripts for bionic16:10
sil2100- Updating the kubuntu packageset as per request16:10
sil2100- Clean-up of unverified xenial language-packs from -proposed16:10
sil2100- Preparing branch for KPI metrics for canonical-foundations bugs16:10
sil2100- Some ubuntu-image discussions with Loic16:10
sil2100(done)16:10
bdmurraysil2100: Are you using Influx DB?16:11
philroche* Cloud image build system Vanguard16:11
bdmurrayphilroche:16:11
philroche* Cloud image build system maintenance & development16:11
philroche* walinuxagent testing16:11
philroche* Released ubuntu-watch-packages snap16:11
philroche(done)16:11
Odd_Bloke* (POTENTIAL HIGHLIGHT) Backported upstream code to move Vagrant from using Atlas to Vagrant Cloud for boxes, due to Atlas API endpoints being shut down (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1747426); community testing of the fixes strongly encouraged16:11
bdmurrayOdd_Bloke:16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1747426 in cloud-images "Vagrant <2.x can no longer fetch box metadata from Hashicorp" [Undecided,New]16:11
Odd_Bloke* Spent some time helping the MAAS team fix a bug with deploying precise images (for ESM customers)16:11
Odd_Bloke* Filed a bug I found while using bionic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/174802916:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1748029 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Dragging and dropping a window in the top bar causes GNOME shell to become unusable" [Undecided,New]16:11
Odd_Bloke* A variety of partner work16:11
Odd_Bloke(done)16:11
sil2100bdmurray: no, the old prometheus thing as with all the original metrics - is that not a thing anymore?16:11
Odd_Blokeslangasek:16:11
bdmurraysil2100: that's not the new hotness16:12
xnoxOdd_Bloke, +!16:12
sil2100Damn...16:12
xnoxOdd_Bloke, +116:12
bdmurraysil2100: lets talk after this16:12
Odd_Blokexnox: +1 to...?16:12
xnoxmutter bug about dragging things16:12
rbalintOdd_Bloke: it is for you, personally :-)16:12
Odd_Blokexnox: I think I'm on X, not Wayland.16:13
slangasek * proposed-migration: trying to unstick the world16:13
slangasek * autopkgtests: shepherding the infrastructure16:13
slangasek  * BOS01 compute moved to BOS02 for a redeploy of BOS01 region16:13
slangasek  * Tracked various glitches that were causing test runners to die16:13
slangasek  * Optimized the arm64 runners to give them a boost, now the runner setup takes < 3m per dispatch instead of 8+m16:13
Odd_BlokeBecause we aren't shipping Wayland as the default in bionic.16:13
slangasek * closed out on grub2 tftp (LP: #1743249)16:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1743249 in MAAS "High IO on the system prevents MAAS to provide PXE config in a timely manner (less than 30 secs)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174324916:13
slangasek * discussions around retpoline in 18.0416:13
slangasek * discussions around openjdk security support in 18.0416:13
slangasek(done)16:13
* xnox needs to doublecheck what i am running16:13
* fginther wishes he knew about that BOS01 thing yesterday16:13
bdmurrayirc discussion with web ops re: mojo spec and certs and sm-cert16:13
bdmurrayirc discussion with webops regarding sm-cert and its usage16:13
bdmurraytested sm-cert with daisy.staging.u.com errors.staging.u.com16:13
bdmurraymodified mojo spec to use certs created by sm-cert16:13
bdmurraysubmitted RT re review of latest ET mojo spec MP16:13
bdmurraymodified (and tested) mojo spec MP after reviewer feedback16:14
bdmurraysubmitted RT re request for pagerduty account16:14
bdmurraysetup pagerduty account for ET monitoring16:14
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding ET mojo spec setup in CI16:14
bdmurraydug into apport test failure w/ new gdb and fixed it (string change)16:14
bdmurraybug triage of apport bug LP: #174687416:14
bdmurraymodified bug-bot to tag bugs v-failed-$release for slangasek16:14
bdmurraymodified w.u.c/EndOfLifeProcess for fixing rmadison16:14
bdmurraycreated an image sizes KPI and submitted a PR for it16:14
bdmurrayirc dicsussions w/ OddBloke and powersj re: Influx DB vs prometheus16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174687416:14
bdmurraysubmitted RT re: Influx DB credentials16:14
slangasekfginther: how do you mean?  I saw MPs last week requesting to move the cloud tests from BOS01 to BOS02 and I thought they landed16:14
bdmurraymodified cloud image sizes KPI to use Influx DB and then to use special time field16:14
bdmurraysubmitted PR re: jenkins job for cloud image sizes KPI16:14
bdmurraybackfilled cloud image sizes in Influx DB16:14
bdmurraydone16:14
bdmurraymade a pretty graph of cloud image sizes16:14
bdmurrayinvestigation into fetchmail, dnscrypt-proxy for LP: 171380316:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1713803 in android-androresolvd (Ubuntu) "replacement of resolvconf with systemd needs integration" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171380316:14
tdaitxShort week: half-days this week, out tomorrow [1] flying back home16:14
tdaitx* At Fosdem in the  free java sessions16:14
tdaitx* Sorting out what Oracle means about OpenJDK support16:14
tdaitx* Testing the armhf port for 8u16116:14
tdaitx* Checking openjdk 9/10 support for packages on main (libreoffice/tomcat)16:14
tdaitx* Started investigating possible sources of binary incompatibilities between java packages build with 8 and running on openjdk 9 and/or 1016:14
tdaitx[1] Note: the domestic leg got moved to the next day, I might be taking new flights altogether16:14
tdaitx(done)16:14
* juliank runs gnome session on X and it hangs a lot for a few seconds each.16:14
fgintherslangasek, those MP only moved one of the arches over, there was still one left on BOS01 this week16:15
slangasekfginther: mm.16:15
slangasekfginther: you can tell us more about it now, it's your turn16:16
fginther* Out sick Monday16:16
fginther* Cloud-image vanguard16:16
fginther* Debugged a bionic image build issue: lp: #174704416:16
fginther* Updated cloud tests to tolerate a specific platform anomaly16:16
fginther* Shared some jenkins best practices in a discussion with three other teams doing CI and test automation16:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1747044 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "kpartx 0.7.4-2ubuntu1 in bionic does not remove loop devices" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174704416:16
fginther* Writing tests for partner cloud image publication code16:16
fginther* Investigating work needed for a new image build16:16
fginther* feeling sad about BOS0116:16
fginther(done)16:16
tribaal* Snowboarding most of the week. Mountains <316:16
tribaal* Still upgrading our build infrastructure to use snaps.16:16
tribaal(done)16:16
slangasekquestions on status?16:17
bdmurraynope16:19
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs16:19
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
slangasek[LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:19
dokosnowboarding!16:20
bdmurrayI tagged 3 bug reports this week for that list16:20
slangasekso there's a 6-digit bug marked critical16:20
Odd_BlokeSnowboarding is a feature, not a bug, doko. ;)16:20
bdmurraybug 94003016:20
ubottubug 940030 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslog stops working after logrotate until restarted" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94003016:20
juliankInteresting. We should check what the somewhat-blocked 8.32 does16:21
slangasekI call shenanigans on that bug, my rsyslog is working fine post-rotation16:22
juliankI don't have a /var/log/syslog16:22
xnoxslangasek, hmmm.... why do we default to rsyslog, instead of syslog-ng with the journal plugin?16:22
juliankdid we drop it?16:22
slangasekoh, but *not* /var/log/syslog16:22
juliankWhat no, I do16:22
cyphermoxrsyslog and /var/log/syslog work well here.16:22
slangasekbdmurray: +1 for sorting this out, it should be a quick fix16:22
xnoxslangasek, or why have rsyslog, if journald provides /var/log/syslog facility by itself too16:22
slangasekxnox: why not bikeshed?16:23
juliankIf we could get rid of rsyslog in main16:23
juliankit would solve our problem with it depending on fastjson now :D16:23
slangasekxnox: you mean the syslog-ng that's been stuck in -proposed for a release cycle, right?16:23
cyphermoxjuliank: replacing it with something else with still requiring MIRing something16:23
xnoxslangasek, heh16:23
slangasekanyway, taking 940030 for the stack; yes it wants follow-through16:23
juliankcyphermox: yeah, but hopefully not a second library, a fork of something we have16:23
cyphermoxjuliank: meh16:24
cyphermoxslangasek: was there another bug?16:24
slangasekbdmurray: what else?16:24
bdmurraybug 108919516:24
ubottubug 1089195 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "linux-headers will eat your inodes on LTS." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108919516:24
xnoxouch16:24
juliankI think there's a more general autoremoval thing for that16:25
rbalintimo we should take that, i'm working on update-manager to remove newly unused packages16:25
slangasekthat sounds like a straight duplicate of the kernel autoremoval bug16:25
cyphermox+116:25
rbalintslangasek: yes, mostly16:25
juliankIt is precisely the bug rbalint is working on, yes16:25
juliankwell headers instead of kernels, but that makes no difference16:26
slangaseknot mostly, if the work on kernel autoremovals doesn't exactly fix this bug then the work on kernel autoremovals is incomplete16:26
rbalintit is almost the same, because the existing headers are not newly unused, but i would like to covert that, too, yes16:26
juliankI also have that stuff on my apt auto-auto-removal idea thing16:26
slangasekcan someone who knows where the lead bug is for that work dupe this to it?16:26
juliankrbalint: that applies to the kernel images too16:27
slangasekjuliank, rbalint: can one of you find the bug to dupe this to, and we'll move on?16:27
rbalintjuliank: yes16:27
slangasekbdmurray: next?16:28
bdmurraybug 174687416:28
ubottubug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174687416:28
juliankslangasek: done16:28
bdmurray"Xwayland and gnome-shell are co-dependent processes. If one crashes then the other will also crash. So we need apport to be capable of handling both crashes simultaneously.16:29
rbalintjuliank: done by, me, too :-)16:29
juliankrbalint: lol16:29
slangasekbdmurray: huh16:29
cyphermoxwow16:30
bdmurraybecause apport is already running it aborts16:30
slangasekbdmurray: that's an interesting symptom, yes let's follow up16:30
slangasek(claiming)16:30
cyphermoxweird, I would have thought you'd just have a second apport running in that case16:31
bdmurrayIts trying to stop the system from being dos'ed16:31
slangasekcyphermox: bug suggests that because core_use_pid isn't set, something (kernel or apport) treats them as identical16:31
cyphermoxyeah16:31
* juliank pretends its a kernel bug16:31
slangasekanyway, claimed16:31
bdmurrayWhat no16:31
bdmurrayERROR: apport (pid 1946) Mon Feb 5 12:05:58 2018: another apport instance is already running, aborting16:32
cyphermoxslangasek: yes16:32
juliankbdmurray: so it's an apport feature :D16:32
cyphermoxwell, I'm surprised at that, because you could conceivable have more than one process crash very close to each other.16:32
juliankit should queue them up I guess16:32
slangasekxnox: LP: #1739672 is still in 'incoming' and only marked triaged, is that fix-committed yet or not?16:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1739672 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Regression in getaddrinfo(): calls block for much longer on Bionic (compared to Xenial), please disable LLMNR" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173967216:32
bdmurray"This avoids bringing down the system to its knees if there is a series of crashes"16:32
cyphermoxand all that it's doing is the pipe thing to start apport16:32
juliankbut you probably do want some crash dropping?16:32
bdmurraySo it was deliberate choice by that guy16:33
slangasekman, that guy16:33
cyphermoxheh16:33
xnoxslangasek, i have been pinged to fix that in person at fosdem too. I have removed the tag, does that make it off the list?16:33
* juliank blames the guy they shot up into space in a tesla16:34
slangasekxnox: are you telling me it's NOT fix committed yet?16:34
bdmurraymaybe just disabling that check on devel releases is good enough16:34
xnoxslangasek, there are autopkgtests failures in systemd that i'm fixing it.16:34
xnoxslangasek, (umockdev + udisks mis-compat with udev)16:35
slangasekxnox: that doesn't actually answer my question16:35
xnoxslangasek, it is not fix committed, as in, it is not in bionic-proposed.16:35
slangasekxnox: if it's committed to the package vcs, it's fix-committed16:35
slangasekand we should mark it as such so you can take it off my nag list ;)16:35
cyphermoxbdmurray: I wonder if queueing the crashes would be so bad16:35
slangasekbdmurray: anything else on bugs?16:37
bdmurrayslangasek: Not from me16:37
slangasekok, anyone else? :)16:37
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:38
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekaaaand anything else?16:38
xnoxdone16:39
gaughenno16:39
slangasek#endmeeting16:39
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Feb  8 16:39:42 2018 UTC.16:39
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-02-08-16.04.moin.txt16:39
slangasekthanks!16:39
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