* slangasek waves | 16:00 | |
sil2100 | o/ | 16:01 |
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rbalint | o/ | 16:01 |
cyphermox | o/ | 16:01 |
philroche | o/ | 16:02 |
Odd_Bloke | \o | 16:02 |
philroche | Damn it Odd_Bloke! we're waving with our left hand this week | 16:03 |
slangasek | sorry, running late on a prior meeting | 16:03 |
* slangasek shuffles papers | 16:03 | |
Odd_Bloke | philroche: I'm facing the other way. | 16:03 |
cyphermox | philroche: wasn't that our right hand? | 16:03 |
xnox | "the other side of the hangout" =) | 16:03 |
slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:04 |
meetingology | Meeting started Thu Feb 8 16:04:03 2018 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:04 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:04 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 16:05 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther juliank) | 16:05 |
gaughen | o/ | 16:05 |
slangasek | doko mwhudson juliank cyphermox rcj rbalint xnox sil2100 philroche Odd_Bloke slangasek infinity bdmurray tdaitx fginther tribaal | 16:05 |
slangasek | doko: hello! | 16:05 |
doko | oops | 16:05 |
doko | - FOSDEM Free Java track | 16:05 |
doko | - spent most of the time working on migration ... | 16:05 |
doko | - GCC 8 uploaded, binutils fixed (arm64 kernel builds) | 16:05 |
doko | - some phone calls this week | 16:05 |
doko | (done) | 16:05 |
slangasek | juliank: | 16:06 |
juliank | merges / syncs: | 16:06 |
juliank | - wget: just a new upstream minor release | 16:06 |
juliank | - dash: dropping the profiled guiding patches, as there's no measurable gain anymore with systemd booting us | 16:06 |
juliank | uploaded fixes / features: | 16:06 |
juliank | - multipath-tools: fixed kpartx regression breaking image builds (bug 1747044) | 16:06 |
juliank | - ubuntu-release-upgrader: only add valid releases (bug 1744722) | 16:06 |
juliank | - util-linux: backported lscpu fixes, but blocked by other upload stuck in proposed (bug 1732865) | 16:06 |
juliank | - software-properties: run apt-get update | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1747044 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "kpartx 0.7.4-2ubuntu1 in bionic does not remove loop devices" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747044 | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1744722 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Artful) "Unknown bad source brings up during 'zesty' to 'artful' upgrade and It break the process" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1744722 | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1732865 in util-linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "[LTCTest][OPAL][FW860.20] lscpu failed to list cpu max and min frequencies" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1732865 | 16:06 |
juliank | needs review: | 16:06 |
juliank | - ubuntu-release-upgrader: double check source release https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/ubuntu-release-upgrader/double-check-source-release/+merge/337258 (bug 1725359) | 16:06 |
juliank | - grub2: show shorter version on screen, hide complete one in variable https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/grub/+git/ubuntu/+merge/337338 (bug 1723434) | 16:06 |
juliank | - socat, pv: MIRs. socat might be hard - it overlaps a lot with netcat, previous attempt was cancelled (bug 1746891 [pv]) | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1725359 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "release detection relies on lsb-release" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725359 | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1723434 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub2 splash screen displays excessively long package version number" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1723434 | 16:06 |
ubottu | bug 1746891 in pv (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pv" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746891 | 16:06 |
juliank | WiP stuff (upstreams): | 16:06 |
juliank | - apt: (1) Make it check that 'Date' is not from the future; (2) Switch to C++14, and some cleanup | 16:06 |
juliank | - multipath-tools: Forwarding the patches for the regression upstream, needs some rework | 16:06 |
juliank | I guess I should get that stuck apt SRU from last year forward too. | 16:06 |
juliank | (done) | 16:06 |
sil2100 | This mwhudson guy, always missing our weekly meetings... | 16:07 |
sil2100 | Shame on him | 16:07 |
xnox | juliank, the overlap is known.... is it possible to use netcat on the images that use socat, per chance? | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - debugging grub2 tftp with slangasek | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - netplan: added bash completion | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - netplan: upstream systemd work to support keeping an interface offline but configured at boot | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - debugging ubuntu-server:live build w/ preinstalled subiquity snap | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - juju-core SRU of 2.3.2 to xenial | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - MIR: reviewing libfastjson | 16:07 |
cyphermox | - various cat herding / administrativia | 16:07 |
cyphermox | (done) | 16:07 |
juliank | xnox: I guess somebody else knows more about that :) | 16:08 |
rbalint | (short week) | 16:08 |
rbalint | * fix opengcs FTBFS (upstreamed): LP: #1746697 | 16:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1746697 in opengcs (Ubuntu) "Opengcs FTBFS on 32 bit architectures" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746697 | 16:08 |
rbalint | * fixed tests for mtd-utils (#889868), now it is in proper shape for MIR | 16:08 |
rbalint | * internal image testing and testbed setup follow-ups | 16:08 |
rbalint | (done) | 16:08 |
bdmurray | xnox: your turn | 16:09 |
xnox | #HIGHLIGHT openssl1.1.0 is landing in Ubuntu | 16:09 |
xnox | Upgrading opencryptoki to 3.8.2 | 16:09 |
xnox | Upgrading systemd to 237 (autopkgtests fixing stage) | 16:09 |
xnox | Ubuntu-keyring now ships more keys - e.g. cloud images, simplestreams, dbg | 16:09 |
xnox | Keyboard step moved earlier in ubiquity (with sil2100) | 16:09 |
xnox | (done) | 16:09 |
bdmurray | sil2100: | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - SRU reviews and releases | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Stable kernel reviews and releases (retpoline incoming) | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Fixing and testing autopilot tests for the early-keyboard ubiquity branch | 16:10 |
sil2100 | * Released by xnox | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Fixing the ppp FTBFS after the openssl1.1 rebuild | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - walinuxagent: | 16:10 |
sil2100 | * Preparing, testing and releasing for bionic | 16:10 |
sil2100 | * Backporting to stable series, pre-SRU testing, getting approved | 16:10 |
sil2100 | * Phil prepared test images, waiting for MS to do their testing | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Fixing the packageset refreshing scripts for bionic | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Updating the kubuntu packageset as per request | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Clean-up of unverified xenial language-packs from -proposed | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Preparing branch for KPI metrics for canonical-foundations bugs | 16:10 |
sil2100 | - Some ubuntu-image discussions with Loic | 16:10 |
sil2100 | (done) | 16:10 |
bdmurray | sil2100: Are you using Influx DB? | 16:11 |
philroche | * Cloud image build system Vanguard | 16:11 |
bdmurray | philroche: | 16:11 |
philroche | * Cloud image build system maintenance & development | 16:11 |
philroche | * walinuxagent testing | 16:11 |
philroche | * Released ubuntu-watch-packages snap | 16:11 |
philroche | (done) | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | * (POTENTIAL HIGHLIGHT) Backported upstream code to move Vagrant from using Atlas to Vagrant Cloud for boxes, due to Atlas API endpoints being shut down (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1747426); community testing of the fixes strongly encouraged | 16:11 |
bdmurray | Odd_Bloke: | 16:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1747426 in cloud-images "Vagrant <2.x can no longer fetch box metadata from Hashicorp" [Undecided,New] | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | * Spent some time helping the MAAS team fix a bug with deploying precise images (for ESM customers) | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | * Filed a bug I found while using bionic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1748029 | 16:11 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1748029 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Dragging and dropping a window in the top bar causes GNOME shell to become unusable" [Undecided,New] | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | * A variety of partner work | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | (done) | 16:11 |
sil2100 | bdmurray: no, the old prometheus thing as with all the original metrics - is that not a thing anymore? | 16:11 |
Odd_Bloke | slangasek: | 16:11 |
bdmurray | sil2100: that's not the new hotness | 16:12 |
xnox | Odd_Bloke, +! | 16:12 |
sil2100 | Damn... | 16:12 |
xnox | Odd_Bloke, +1 | 16:12 |
bdmurray | sil2100: lets talk after this | 16:12 |
Odd_Bloke | xnox: +1 to...? | 16:12 |
xnox | mutter bug about dragging things | 16:12 |
rbalint | Odd_Bloke: it is for you, personally :-) | 16:12 |
Odd_Bloke | xnox: I think I'm on X, not Wayland. | 16:13 |
slangasek | * proposed-migration: trying to unstick the world | 16:13 |
slangasek | * autopkgtests: shepherding the infrastructure | 16:13 |
slangasek | * BOS01 compute moved to BOS02 for a redeploy of BOS01 region | 16:13 |
slangasek | * Tracked various glitches that were causing test runners to die | 16:13 |
slangasek | * Optimized the arm64 runners to give them a boost, now the runner setup takes < 3m per dispatch instead of 8+m | 16:13 |
Odd_Bloke | Because we aren't shipping Wayland as the default in bionic. | 16:13 |
slangasek | * closed out on grub2 tftp (LP: #1743249) | 16:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1743249 in MAAS "High IO on the system prevents MAAS to provide PXE config in a timely manner (less than 30 secs)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743249 | 16:13 |
slangasek | * discussions around retpoline in 18.04 | 16:13 |
slangasek | * discussions around openjdk security support in 18.04 | 16:13 |
slangasek | (done) | 16:13 |
* xnox needs to doublecheck what i am running | 16:13 | |
* fginther wishes he knew about that BOS01 thing yesterday | 16:13 | |
bdmurray | irc discussion with web ops re: mojo spec and certs and sm-cert | 16:13 |
bdmurray | irc discussion with webops regarding sm-cert and its usage | 16:13 |
bdmurray | tested sm-cert with daisy.staging.u.com errors.staging.u.com | 16:13 |
bdmurray | modified mojo spec to use certs created by sm-cert | 16:13 |
bdmurray | submitted RT re review of latest ET mojo spec MP | 16:13 |
bdmurray | modified (and tested) mojo spec MP after reviewer feedback | 16:14 |
bdmurray | submitted RT re request for pagerduty account | 16:14 |
bdmurray | setup pagerduty account for ET monitoring | 16:14 |
bdmurray | submitted RT regarding ET mojo spec setup in CI | 16:14 |
bdmurray | dug into apport test failure w/ new gdb and fixed it (string change) | 16:14 |
bdmurray | bug triage of apport bug LP: #1746874 | 16:14 |
bdmurray | modified bug-bot to tag bugs v-failed-$release for slangasek | 16:14 |
bdmurray | modified w.u.c/EndOfLifeProcess for fixing rmadison | 16:14 |
bdmurray | created an image sizes KPI and submitted a PR for it | 16:14 |
bdmurray | irc dicsussions w/ OddBloke and powersj re: Influx DB vs prometheus | 16:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746874 | 16:14 |
bdmurray | submitted RT re: Influx DB credentials | 16:14 |
slangasek | fginther: how do you mean? I saw MPs last week requesting to move the cloud tests from BOS01 to BOS02 and I thought they landed | 16:14 |
bdmurray | modified cloud image sizes KPI to use Influx DB and then to use special time field | 16:14 |
bdmurray | submitted PR re: jenkins job for cloud image sizes KPI | 16:14 |
bdmurray | backfilled cloud image sizes in Influx DB | 16:14 |
bdmurray | done | 16:14 |
bdmurray | made a pretty graph of cloud image sizes | 16:14 |
bdmurray | investigation into fetchmail, dnscrypt-proxy for LP: 1713803 | 16:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1713803 in android-androresolvd (Ubuntu) "replacement of resolvconf with systemd needs integration" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713803 | 16:14 |
tdaitx | Short week: half-days this week, out tomorrow [1] flying back home | 16:14 |
tdaitx | * At Fosdem in the free java sessions | 16:14 |
tdaitx | * Sorting out what Oracle means about OpenJDK support | 16:14 |
tdaitx | * Testing the armhf port for 8u161 | 16:14 |
tdaitx | * Checking openjdk 9/10 support for packages on main (libreoffice/tomcat) | 16:14 |
tdaitx | * Started investigating possible sources of binary incompatibilities between java packages build with 8 and running on openjdk 9 and/or 10 | 16:14 |
tdaitx | [1] Note: the domestic leg got moved to the next day, I might be taking new flights altogether | 16:14 |
tdaitx | (done) | 16:14 |
* juliank runs gnome session on X and it hangs a lot for a few seconds each. | 16:14 | |
fginther | slangasek, those MP only moved one of the arches over, there was still one left on BOS01 this week | 16:15 |
slangasek | fginther: mm. | 16:15 |
slangasek | fginther: you can tell us more about it now, it's your turn | 16:16 |
fginther | * Out sick Monday | 16:16 |
fginther | * Cloud-image vanguard | 16:16 |
fginther | * Debugged a bionic image build issue: lp: #1747044 | 16:16 |
fginther | * Updated cloud tests to tolerate a specific platform anomaly | 16:16 |
fginther | * Shared some jenkins best practices in a discussion with three other teams doing CI and test automation | 16:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1747044 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu) "kpartx 0.7.4-2ubuntu1 in bionic does not remove loop devices" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747044 | 16:16 |
fginther | * Writing tests for partner cloud image publication code | 16:16 |
fginther | * Investigating work needed for a new image build | 16:16 |
fginther | * feeling sad about BOS01 | 16:16 |
fginther | (done) | 16:16 |
tribaal | * Snowboarding most of the week. Mountains <3 | 16:16 |
tribaal | * Still upgrading our build infrastructure to use snaps. | 16:16 |
tribaal | (done) | 16:16 |
slangasek | questions on status? | 16:17 |
bdmurray | nope | 16:19 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] Bugs | 16:19 |
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs | ||
slangasek | [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:19 |
doko | snowboarding! | 16:20 |
bdmurray | I tagged 3 bug reports this week for that list | 16:20 |
slangasek | so there's a 6-digit bug marked critical | 16:20 |
Odd_Bloke | Snowboarding is a feature, not a bug, doko. ;) | 16:20 |
bdmurray | bug 940030 | 16:20 |
ubottu | bug 940030 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "rsyslog stops working after logrotate until restarted" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940030 | 16:20 |
juliank | Interesting. We should check what the somewhat-blocked 8.32 does | 16:21 |
slangasek | I call shenanigans on that bug, my rsyslog is working fine post-rotation | 16:22 |
juliank | I don't have a /var/log/syslog | 16:22 |
xnox | slangasek, hmmm.... why do we default to rsyslog, instead of syslog-ng with the journal plugin? | 16:22 |
juliank | did we drop it? | 16:22 |
slangasek | oh, but *not* /var/log/syslog | 16:22 |
juliank | What no, I do | 16:22 |
cyphermox | rsyslog and /var/log/syslog work well here. | 16:22 |
slangasek | bdmurray: +1 for sorting this out, it should be a quick fix | 16:22 |
xnox | slangasek, or why have rsyslog, if journald provides /var/log/syslog facility by itself too | 16:22 |
slangasek | xnox: why not bikeshed? | 16:23 |
juliank | If we could get rid of rsyslog in main | 16:23 |
juliank | it would solve our problem with it depending on fastjson now :D | 16:23 |
slangasek | xnox: you mean the syslog-ng that's been stuck in -proposed for a release cycle, right? | 16:23 |
cyphermox | juliank: replacing it with something else with still requiring MIRing something | 16:23 |
xnox | slangasek, heh | 16:23 |
slangasek | anyway, taking 940030 for the stack; yes it wants follow-through | 16:23 |
juliank | cyphermox: yeah, but hopefully not a second library, a fork of something we have | 16:23 |
cyphermox | juliank: meh | 16:24 |
cyphermox | slangasek: was there another bug? | 16:24 |
slangasek | bdmurray: what else? | 16:24 |
bdmurray | bug 1089195 | 16:24 |
ubottu | bug 1089195 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "linux-headers will eat your inodes on LTS." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089195 | 16:24 |
xnox | ouch | 16:24 |
juliank | I think there's a more general autoremoval thing for that | 16:25 |
rbalint | imo we should take that, i'm working on update-manager to remove newly unused packages | 16:25 |
slangasek | that sounds like a straight duplicate of the kernel autoremoval bug | 16:25 |
cyphermox | +1 | 16:25 |
rbalint | slangasek: yes, mostly | 16:25 |
juliank | It is precisely the bug rbalint is working on, yes | 16:25 |
juliank | well headers instead of kernels, but that makes no difference | 16:26 |
slangasek | not mostly, if the work on kernel autoremovals doesn't exactly fix this bug then the work on kernel autoremovals is incomplete | 16:26 |
rbalint | it is almost the same, because the existing headers are not newly unused, but i would like to covert that, too, yes | 16:26 |
juliank | I also have that stuff on my apt auto-auto-removal idea thing | 16:26 |
slangasek | can someone who knows where the lead bug is for that work dupe this to it? | 16:26 |
juliank | rbalint: that applies to the kernel images too | 16:27 |
slangasek | juliank, rbalint: can one of you find the bug to dupe this to, and we'll move on? | 16:27 |
rbalint | juliank: yes | 16:27 |
slangasek | bdmurray: next? | 16:28 |
bdmurray | bug 1746874 | 16:28 |
ubottu | bug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746874 | 16:28 |
juliank | slangasek: done | 16:28 |
bdmurray | "Xwayland and gnome-shell are co-dependent processes. If one crashes then the other will also crash. So we need apport to be capable of handling both crashes simultaneously. | 16:29 |
rbalint | juliank: done by, me, too :-) | 16:29 |
juliank | rbalint: lol | 16:29 |
slangasek | bdmurray: huh | 16:29 |
cyphermox | wow | 16:30 |
bdmurray | because apport is already running it aborts | 16:30 |
slangasek | bdmurray: that's an interesting symptom, yes let's follow up | 16:30 |
slangasek | (claiming) | 16:30 |
cyphermox | weird, I would have thought you'd just have a second apport running in that case | 16:31 |
bdmurray | Its trying to stop the system from being dos'ed | 16:31 |
slangasek | cyphermox: bug suggests that because core_use_pid isn't set, something (kernel or apport) treats them as identical | 16:31 |
cyphermox | yeah | 16:31 |
* juliank pretends its a kernel bug | 16:31 | |
slangasek | anyway, claimed | 16:31 |
bdmurray | What no | 16:31 |
bdmurray | ERROR: apport (pid 1946) Mon Feb 5 12:05:58 2018: another apport instance is already running, aborting | 16:32 |
cyphermox | slangasek: yes | 16:32 |
juliank | bdmurray: so it's an apport feature :D | 16:32 |
cyphermox | well, I'm surprised at that, because you could conceivable have more than one process crash very close to each other. | 16:32 |
juliank | it should queue them up I guess | 16:32 |
slangasek | xnox: LP: #1739672 is still in 'incoming' and only marked triaged, is that fix-committed yet or not? | 16:32 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1739672 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Regression in getaddrinfo(): calls block for much longer on Bionic (compared to Xenial), please disable LLMNR" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1739672 | 16:32 |
bdmurray | "This avoids bringing down the system to its knees if there is a series of crashes" | 16:32 |
cyphermox | and all that it's doing is the pipe thing to start apport | 16:32 |
juliank | but you probably do want some crash dropping? | 16:32 |
bdmurray | So it was deliberate choice by that guy | 16:33 |
slangasek | man, that guy | 16:33 |
cyphermox | heh | 16:33 |
xnox | slangasek, i have been pinged to fix that in person at fosdem too. I have removed the tag, does that make it off the list? | 16:33 |
* juliank blames the guy they shot up into space in a tesla | 16:34 | |
slangasek | xnox: are you telling me it's NOT fix committed yet? | 16:34 |
bdmurray | maybe just disabling that check on devel releases is good enough | 16:34 |
xnox | slangasek, there are autopkgtests failures in systemd that i'm fixing it. | 16:34 |
xnox | slangasek, (umockdev + udisks mis-compat with udev) | 16:35 |
slangasek | xnox: that doesn't actually answer my question | 16:35 |
xnox | slangasek, it is not fix committed, as in, it is not in bionic-proposed. | 16:35 |
slangasek | xnox: if it's committed to the package vcs, it's fix-committed | 16:35 |
slangasek | and we should mark it as such so you can take it off my nag list ;) | 16:35 |
cyphermox | bdmurray: I wonder if queueing the crashes would be so bad | 16:35 |
slangasek | bdmurray: anything else on bugs? | 16:37 |
bdmurray | slangasek: Not from me | 16:37 |
slangasek | ok, anyone else? :) | 16:37 |
slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:38 |
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slangasek | aaaand anything else? | 16:38 |
xnox | done | 16:39 |
gaughen | no | 16:39 |
slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:39 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Feb 8 16:39:42 2018 UTC. | 16:39 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-02-08-16.04.moin.txt | 16:39 |
slangasek | thanks! | 16:39 |
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