jrwren | lol, remember testdrive? I just found an ancient testdrive system of quantal dated oct 2012 :) | 01:20 |
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cmaloney | Heh | 01:25 |
cmaloney | Good times | 01:26 |
cmaloney | I just put in the talk submission for the Penguicon Release party | 01:26 |
cmaloney | morning | 11:46 |
rick_h | wheeee | 12:38 |
cmaloney | Are we having fun yet? | 12:42 |
rick_h | not yet...but working on it heh | 12:45 |
rick_h | 15 days and counting | 12:45 |
cmaloney | How's the birthday month so far? :) | 12:45 |
cmaloney | Hah | 12:45 |
rick_h | good, working on house stuff and such | 12:46 |
rick_h | shoveling snow every other day | 12:46 |
cmaloney | Yeah, no kidding | 12:48 |
cmaloney | Yesterday I used the snow blower for that little bit of snow, just to save a few minutes | 12:48 |
rick_h | it's been too powdery here, just makes a mess with the blower | 12:49 |
cmaloney | and get it all nice and clean so it could melt away just in time for the next batch | 12:49 |
cmaloney | I did it around 12:30pm so it wasn't as powdery | 12:49 |
cmaloney | had some sunlight on it | 12:50 |
rick_h | ah, gotcha | 12:50 |
cmaloney | Yeah, in the morning it wouldn't have worked | 12:50 |
cmaloney | but I was shamed by my neighbors to going out there and shoveling | 12:51 |
rick_h | lol | 12:51 |
rick_h | well I just hate it because when we drive on it it compacts and it's impossible to get up so if it's not going to be warm I want to try to shovel before we leave the house if possible | 12:51 |
cmaloney | Yeah | 12:51 |
rick_h | which I got about 80% clear before my wife left...doh! | 12:52 |
cmaloney | unfortunately I took JoDee to work before I could shovel so I had a tire speedbump | 12:52 |
cmaloney | tire-compacted speedbump | 12:52 |
rick_h | yea | 12:54 |
cmaloney | https://unikeyboard.io/product/terminus/ <- Good God, people ar re-creating the PET 2001 keyboard on purpose. | 12:57 |
cmaloney | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_PET#/media/File:Commodore_2001_Series-IMG_0448b.jpg | 12:57 |
Scary_Guy | I mean it's not exact but it's close | 13:18 |
Scary_Guy | screw matrix layout though. I mean I'm sure I'd get used to it eventually | 13:19 |
Scary_Guy | http://www.mistelkeyboard.com/barocco-rgb-series/ I just got this and I love it | 13:21 |
Scary_Guy | kinda miss the full layout though, 60% seems stunted. I'll probably end up getting the keypad | 13:21 |
cmaloney | I just find it slightly humorous that for the longest time I was really looking forward to having a full-sized keyboard on my computer | 14:09 |
cmaloney | and now that we do there's folks trying to see how minimalistic they can get with the design | 14:09 |
cmaloney | Seriously I don't want to think that hard to type | 14:10 |
cmaloney | If I did I'd become a stenographer | 14:10 |
rick_h | I do like 10less though | 14:17 |
rick_h | unless you're an accountant bring that mouse space in for the 95% of the day | 14:18 |
cmaloney | Yeah; I'm a little too addicted to the numeric pad | 14:21 |
cmaloney | but I can see where it might be an advantage. | 14:21 |
Scary_Guy | I saw an old stego unit on craigslist for $8 | 14:38 |
Scary_Guy | steno* | 14:38 |
Scary_Guy | https://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/BLKPC122Front.jpg really I'd love this keyboard | 14:40 |
Scary_Guy | the only reason I got the split one is because it's more ergonomic. I have it mounted at the ends of my armrests | 14:42 |
Scary_Guy | well, sort of mounted anyway. It's not going anywhere that's the point | 14:43 |
rick_h | heh | 14:43 |
rick_h | yea, I keep playing around with keyboards but always come back to my kenisis as my main board | 14:44 |
Scary_Guy | kenisis is legit. are the keys mechanical though? | 14:47 |
Scary_Guy | that's what I like about this one. I mean I can tolerate a rubber dome but this does feel much nicer | 14:47 |
rick_h | yea, they're cherry browns which I wish I get could something better | 14:49 |
rick_h | but ergo++ | 14:49 |
Scary_Guy | super nice then. I may end up elevating mine on the insides too. I hear that's also nice | 14:50 |
Scary_Guy | too bad they don't put the standoffs there | 14:50 |
Scary_Guy | hell, most keyboards I come across I break them off if I can. horrible for your wrists | 14:51 |
Scary_Guy | while we're on the subject everyone should elevate their monitors to eye level. also, fuck laptops | 14:51 |
rick_h | monitor arms ftw | 14:51 |
rick_h | only way to fly | 14:52 |
Scary_Guy | mine sit on some old army HAM radios from the Korean war | 14:52 |
cmaloney | That's a hell of an aesthetic | 14:52 |
Scary_Guy | they're actually too high now that I switched out the drafting chair for this gaming one | 14:52 |
Scary_Guy | looks neat but I lack the cables to get them working | 14:53 |
Scary_Guy | they each have little radioactive symbols on them. I wasn't planning on having kids anyway | 14:53 |
Scary_Guy | also I'm sure the five CRTs I had before didn't help either | 14:54 |
Scary_Guy | I may just elevate this chair, it's kind of like having a standing desk too, though now there is no desk | 14:57 |
jrwren | SWEET!!! I finally finally finally got italics in byobu. | 15:08 |
cmaloney | Wait till you get tmux. :) | 15:11 |
cmaloney | *mind blown* | 15:11 |
jrwren | :p | 15:12 |
jrwren | the whole point was that I had it working in tmux but not byobu-tmux. | 15:12 |
jrwren | what can I say? i really like byobu's status line. | 15:12 |
cmaloney | Seems like an awful lot of baggage for a status line | 15:12 |
cmaloney | but cool nonetheless | 15:12 |
jrwren | really? | 15:12 |
jrwren | I never notice the baggage. | 15:12 |
cmaloney | I dunno. Byobu felt really heavy to me | 15:13 |
jrwren | its litterally tmux with custom config. | 15:13 |
jrwren | or screen, but I use byobu-tmux | 15:13 |
cmaloney | Perhaps I like default tmux better tha byobu's defaults | 15:13 |
* cmaloney hasn't looked at byobu since it was a screen wrapper | 15:13 | |
jrwren | I'd drop byobu and do tmux if I could get the same status line. the status line is the only reason I use byobu. | 15:14 |
jrwren | I even change the keybindings to be default tmux. | 15:14 |
rick_h | do you use the status line? what info do you find you use regularly through the day? | 15:16 |
rick_h | it always seemed like interesting in theory to know that every so often but not something I needed constant repeated hits on | 15:16 |
jrwren | I use it for update notification and for bwmon. The bwmon has saved my ass numerous times. | 15:16 |
jrwren | i don't need it on every host on which I run, just this particular one, which also happens to be my internet router, so quick glance at data rates is very useful | 15:17 |
_stink_ | i still just use gnu screen :P | 15:23 |
cmaloney | _stink_: Honestly you should give tmux a try | 15:24 |
jrwren | +1 tmux is much nicer when connecting with multiple terms to the same session | 15:24 |
cmaloney | I used to be a screen die-hard and I completely moved to tmux because it has a lot of nice things that never made it into screen | 15:24 |
cmaloney | session switching is awesome | 15:25 |
cmaloney | and I'm practically in a tiling window manager with the window splits | 15:25 |
jrwren | I still never window split: ) | 15:25 |
waldo323 | can you use tmux to connect to a serial console? | 16:44 |
jrwren | no, you'd use something else for that. | 16:45 |
waldo323 | one of my uses of screen is "screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200" | 16:46 |
waldo323 | for connecting to circuit python boards | 16:46 |
jrwren | what does that do? | 16:46 |
waldo323 | give access to the repl on the board | 16:46 |
waldo323 | *gives | 16:47 |
jrwren | cool. I'd use minicom for that. | 16:47 |
jrwren | screen sounds like its a bit lighter than minicom for that. I dig it. | 16:47 |
waldo323 | it is the command recommended by adafruit's guides, https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython | 16:48 |
waldo323 | woa our mug video comes up first in google search when searching for welcome to circuit python | 16:49 |
waldo323 | https://youtu.be/307Ia_mv8AA | 16:49 |
jrwren | so, its screen as a terminal emulator? there aren't multiple windows, right? | 16:50 |
waldo323 | That was my assumption. you can still create other windows like normal but only one connects to the board | 16:51 |
jrwren | huh, i was searching to see if tmux can do it, and I still dont' know, but apparently there is also `tio` tio.github.io | 16:53 |
waldo323 | nic | 16:55 |
waldo323 | e | 16:55 |
waldo323 | it looks like as of 2015 the author of tmux thought the ability was bloat and not the unix way so wasn't likely going to add it | 16:56 |
waldo323 | but that also looks like hearsay | 16:57 |
jrwren | figures. | 16:57 |
cmaloney | There's also cu | 17:01 |
jrwren | cool. I didn't know that one either. | 17:04 |
cmaloney | me either | 17:05 |
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