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jrwrenlol, remember testdrive? I just found an ancient testdrive system of quantal dated oct 2012 :)01:20
cmaloneyHeh01:25
cmaloneyGood times01:26
cmaloneyI just put in the talk submission for the Penguicon Release party01:26
cmaloneymorning11:46
rick_hwheeee12:38
cmaloneyAre we having fun yet?12:42
rick_hnot yet...but working on it heh12:45
rick_h15 days and counting12:45
cmaloneyHow's the birthday month so far? :)12:45
cmaloneyHah12:45
rick_hgood, working on house stuff and such12:46
rick_hshoveling snow every other day12:46
cmaloneyYeah, no kidding12:48
cmaloneyYesterday I used the snow blower for that little bit of snow, just to save a few minutes12:48
rick_hit's been too powdery here, just makes a mess with the blower12:49
cmaloneyand get it all nice and clean so it could melt away just in time for the next batch12:49
cmaloneyI did it around 12:30pm so it wasn't as powdery12:49
cmaloneyhad some sunlight on it12:50
rick_hah, gotcha12:50
cmaloneyYeah, in the morning it wouldn't have worked12:50
cmaloneybut I was shamed by my neighbors to going out there and shoveling12:51
rick_hlol12:51
rick_hwell I just hate it because when we drive on it it compacts and it's impossible to get up so if it's not going to be warm I want to try to shovel before we leave the house if possible12:51
cmaloneyYeah12:51
rick_hwhich I got about 80% clear before my wife left...doh!12:52
cmaloneyunfortunately I took JoDee to work before I could shovel so I had a tire speedbump12:52
cmaloneytire-compacted speedbump12:52
rick_hyea12:54
cmaloneyhttps://unikeyboard.io/product/terminus/ <- Good God, people ar re-creating the PET 2001 keyboard on purpose.12:57
cmaloneyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_PET#/media/File:Commodore_2001_Series-IMG_0448b.jpg12:57
Scary_GuyI mean it's not exact but it's close13:18
Scary_Guyscrew matrix layout though.  I mean I'm sure I'd get used to it eventually13:19
Scary_Guyhttp://www.mistelkeyboard.com/barocco-rgb-series/ I just got this and I love it13:21
Scary_Guykinda miss the full layout though, 60% seems stunted.  I'll probably end up getting the keypad13:21
cmaloneyI just find it slightly humorous that for the longest time I was really looking forward to having a full-sized keyboard on my computer14:09
cmaloneyand now that we do there's folks trying to see how minimalistic they can get with the design14:09
cmaloneySeriously I don't want to think that hard to type14:10
cmaloneyIf I did I'd become a stenographer14:10
rick_hI do like 10less though14:17
rick_hunless you're an accountant bring that mouse space in for the 95% of the day14:18
cmaloneyYeah; I'm a little too addicted to the numeric pad14:21
cmaloneybut I can see where it might be an advantage.14:21
Scary_GuyI saw an old stego unit on craigslist for $814:38
Scary_Guysteno*14:38
Scary_Guyhttps://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/BLKPC122Front.jpg really I'd love this keyboard14:40
Scary_Guythe only reason I got the split one is because it's more ergonomic.  I have it mounted at the ends of my armrests14:42
Scary_Guywell, sort of mounted anyway.  It's not going anywhere that's the point14:43
rick_hheh14:43
rick_hyea, I keep playing around with keyboards but always come back to my kenisis as my main board14:44
Scary_Guykenisis is legit.  are the keys mechanical though?14:47
Scary_Guythat's what I like about this one.  I mean I can tolerate a rubber dome but this does feel much nicer14:47
rick_hyea, they're cherry browns which I wish I get could something better14:49
rick_hbut ergo++14:49
Scary_Guysuper nice then.  I may end up elevating mine on the insides too.  I hear that's also nice14:50
Scary_Guytoo bad they don't put the standoffs there14:50
Scary_Guyhell, most keyboards I come across I break them off if I can.  horrible for your wrists14:51
Scary_Guywhile we're on the subject everyone should elevate their monitors to eye level.  also, fuck laptops14:51
rick_hmonitor arms ftw14:51
rick_honly way to fly14:52
Scary_Guymine sit on some old army HAM radios from the Korean war14:52
cmaloneyThat's a hell of an aesthetic14:52
Scary_Guythey're actually too high now that I switched out the drafting chair for this gaming one14:52
Scary_Guylooks neat but I lack the cables to get them working14:53
Scary_Guythey each have little radioactive symbols on them.  I wasn't planning on having kids anyway14:53
Scary_Guyalso I'm sure the five CRTs I had before didn't help either14:54
Scary_GuyI may just elevate this chair, it's kind of like having a standing desk too, though now there is no desk14:57
jrwrenSWEET!!! I finally finally finally got italics in byobu.15:08
cmaloneyWait till you get tmux. :)15:11
cmaloney*mind blown*15:11
jrwren:p15:12
jrwrenthe whole point was that I had it working in tmux but not byobu-tmux.15:12
jrwrenwhat can I say? i really like byobu's status line.15:12
cmaloneySeems like an awful lot of baggage for a status line15:12
cmaloneybut cool nonetheless15:12
jrwrenreally?15:12
jrwrenI never notice the baggage.15:12
cmaloneyI dunno. Byobu felt really heavy to me15:13
jrwrenits litterally tmux with custom config.15:13
jrwrenor screen, but I use byobu-tmux15:13
cmaloneyPerhaps I like default tmux better tha byobu's defaults15:13
* cmaloney hasn't looked at byobu since it was a screen wrapper15:13
jrwrenI'd drop byobu and do tmux if I could get the same status line. the status line is the only reason I use byobu.15:14
jrwrenI even change the keybindings to be default tmux.15:14
rick_hdo you use the status line? what info do you find you use regularly through the day?15:16
rick_hit always seemed like interesting in theory to know that every so often but not something I needed constant repeated hits on15:16
jrwrenI use it for update notification and for bwmon. The bwmon has saved my ass numerous times.15:16
jrwreni don't need it on every host on which I run, just this particular one, which also happens to be my internet router, so quick glance at data rates is very useful15:17
_stink_i still just use gnu screen :P15:23
cmaloney_stink_: Honestly you should give tmux a try15:24
jrwren+1 tmux is much nicer when connecting with multiple terms to the same session15:24
cmaloneyI used to be a screen die-hard and I completely moved to tmux because it has a lot of nice things that never made it into screen15:24
cmaloneysession switching is awesome15:25
cmaloneyand I'm practically in a tiling window manager with the window splits15:25
jrwrenI still never window split: )15:25
waldo323can you use tmux to connect to a serial console?16:44
jrwrenno, you'd use something else for that.16:45
waldo323one of my uses of screen is "screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200"16:46
waldo323for connecting to circuit python boards16:46
jrwrenwhat does that do?16:46
waldo323give access to the repl on the board16:46
waldo323*gives16:47
jrwrencool. I'd use minicom for that.16:47
jrwrenscreen sounds like its a bit lighter than minicom for that. I dig it.16:47
waldo323it is the command recommended by adafruit's guides,  https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython16:48
waldo323woa our mug video comes up first in google search when searching for welcome to circuit python16:49
waldo323https://youtu.be/307Ia_mv8AA16:49
jrwrenso, its screen as a terminal emulator? there aren't multiple windows, right?16:50
waldo323That was my assumption.  you can still create other windows like normal but only one connects to the board16:51
jrwrenhuh, i was searching to see if tmux can do it, and I still dont' know, but apparently there is also `tio` tio.github.io16:53
waldo323nic16:55
waldo323e16:55
waldo323it looks like as of 2015 the author of tmux thought the ability was bloat and not the unix way so wasn't likely going to add it16:56
waldo323but that also looks like hearsay16:57
jrwrenfigures.16:57
cmaloneyThere's also cu17:01
jrwrencool. I didn't know that one either.17:04
cmaloneyme either17:05
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