[01:20] lol, remember testdrive? I just found an ancient testdrive system of quantal dated oct 2012 :) [01:25] Heh [01:26] Good times [01:26] I just put in the talk submission for the Penguicon Release party [11:46] morning [12:38] wheeee [12:42] Are we having fun yet? [12:45] not yet...but working on it heh [12:45] 15 days and counting [12:45] How's the birthday month so far? :) [12:45] Hah [12:46] good, working on house stuff and such [12:46] shoveling snow every other day [12:48] Yeah, no kidding [12:48] Yesterday I used the snow blower for that little bit of snow, just to save a few minutes [12:49] it's been too powdery here, just makes a mess with the blower [12:49] and get it all nice and clean so it could melt away just in time for the next batch [12:49] I did it around 12:30pm so it wasn't as powdery [12:50] had some sunlight on it [12:50] ah, gotcha [12:50] Yeah, in the morning it wouldn't have worked [12:51] but I was shamed by my neighbors to going out there and shoveling [12:51] lol [12:51] well I just hate it because when we drive on it it compacts and it's impossible to get up so if it's not going to be warm I want to try to shovel before we leave the house if possible [12:51] Yeah [12:52] which I got about 80% clear before my wife left...doh! [12:52] unfortunately I took JoDee to work before I could shovel so I had a tire speedbump [12:52] tire-compacted speedbump [12:54] yea [12:57] https://unikeyboard.io/product/terminus/ <- Good God, people ar re-creating the PET 2001 keyboard on purpose. [12:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_PET#/media/File:Commodore_2001_Series-IMG_0448b.jpg [13:18] I mean it's not exact but it's close [13:19] screw matrix layout though. I mean I'm sure I'd get used to it eventually [13:21] http://www.mistelkeyboard.com/barocco-rgb-series/ I just got this and I love it [13:21] kinda miss the full layout though, 60% seems stunted. I'll probably end up getting the keypad [14:09] I just find it slightly humorous that for the longest time I was really looking forward to having a full-sized keyboard on my computer [14:09] and now that we do there's folks trying to see how minimalistic they can get with the design [14:10] Seriously I don't want to think that hard to type [14:10] If I did I'd become a stenographer [14:17] I do like 10less though [14:18] unless you're an accountant bring that mouse space in for the 95% of the day [14:21] Yeah; I'm a little too addicted to the numeric pad [14:21] but I can see where it might be an advantage. [14:38] I saw an old stego unit on craigslist for $8 [14:38] steno* [14:40] https://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/BLKPC122Front.jpg really I'd love this keyboard [14:42] the only reason I got the split one is because it's more ergonomic. I have it mounted at the ends of my armrests [14:43] well, sort of mounted anyway. It's not going anywhere that's the point [14:43] heh [14:44] yea, I keep playing around with keyboards but always come back to my kenisis as my main board [14:47] kenisis is legit. are the keys mechanical though? [14:47] that's what I like about this one. I mean I can tolerate a rubber dome but this does feel much nicer [14:49] yea, they're cherry browns which I wish I get could something better [14:49] but ergo++ [14:50] super nice then. I may end up elevating mine on the insides too. I hear that's also nice [14:50] too bad they don't put the standoffs there [14:51] hell, most keyboards I come across I break them off if I can. horrible for your wrists [14:51] while we're on the subject everyone should elevate their monitors to eye level. also, fuck laptops [14:51] monitor arms ftw [14:52] only way to fly [14:52] mine sit on some old army HAM radios from the Korean war [14:52] That's a hell of an aesthetic [14:52] they're actually too high now that I switched out the drafting chair for this gaming one [14:53] looks neat but I lack the cables to get them working [14:53] they each have little radioactive symbols on them. I wasn't planning on having kids anyway [14:54] also I'm sure the five CRTs I had before didn't help either [14:57] I may just elevate this chair, it's kind of like having a standing desk too, though now there is no desk [15:08] SWEET!!! I finally finally finally got italics in byobu. [15:11] Wait till you get tmux. :) [15:11] *mind blown* [15:12] :p [15:12] the whole point was that I had it working in tmux but not byobu-tmux. [15:12] what can I say? i really like byobu's status line. [15:12] Seems like an awful lot of baggage for a status line [15:12] but cool nonetheless [15:12] really? [15:12] I never notice the baggage. [15:13] I dunno. Byobu felt really heavy to me [15:13] its litterally tmux with custom config. [15:13] or screen, but I use byobu-tmux [15:13] Perhaps I like default tmux better tha byobu's defaults [15:13] * cmaloney hasn't looked at byobu since it was a screen wrapper [15:14] I'd drop byobu and do tmux if I could get the same status line. the status line is the only reason I use byobu. [15:14] I even change the keybindings to be default tmux. [15:16] do you use the status line? what info do you find you use regularly through the day? [15:16] it always seemed like interesting in theory to know that every so often but not something I needed constant repeated hits on [15:16] I use it for update notification and for bwmon. The bwmon has saved my ass numerous times. [15:17] i don't need it on every host on which I run, just this particular one, which also happens to be my internet router, so quick glance at data rates is very useful [15:23] <_stink_> i still just use gnu screen :P [15:24] _stink_: Honestly you should give tmux a try [15:24] +1 tmux is much nicer when connecting with multiple terms to the same session [15:24] I used to be a screen die-hard and I completely moved to tmux because it has a lot of nice things that never made it into screen [15:25] session switching is awesome [15:25] and I'm practically in a tiling window manager with the window splits [15:25] I still never window split: ) [16:44] can you use tmux to connect to a serial console? [16:45] no, you'd use something else for that. [16:46] one of my uses of screen is "screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200" [16:46] for connecting to circuit python boards [16:46] what does that do? [16:46] give access to the repl on the board [16:47] *gives [16:47] cool. I'd use minicom for that. [16:47] screen sounds like its a bit lighter than minicom for that. I dig it. [16:48] it is the command recommended by adafruit's guides, https://learn.adafruit.com/welcome-to-circuitpython/what-is-circuitpython [16:49] woa our mug video comes up first in google search when searching for welcome to circuit python [16:49] https://youtu.be/307Ia_mv8AA [16:50] so, its screen as a terminal emulator? there aren't multiple windows, right? [16:51] That was my assumption. you can still create other windows like normal but only one connects to the board [16:53] huh, i was searching to see if tmux can do it, and I still dont' know, but apparently there is also `tio` tio.github.io [16:55] nic [16:55] e [16:56] it looks like as of 2015 the author of tmux thought the ability was bloat and not the unix way so wasn't likely going to add it [16:57] but that also looks like hearsay [16:57] figures. [17:01] There's also cu [17:04] cool. I didn't know that one either. [17:05] me either === dzho is now known as dzho|class === dzho|class is now known as dzho