[00:22] <anastasiamac> thumper: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8350
[01:24] <ejat> hi
 anyone can help me with this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/26543884/
 is it related to this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-ceph-osd/+bug/1731639
[01:24] <mup> Bug #1731639: get_partition_list fails <OpenStack ceph-osd charm:Triaged> <charms.ceph:Fix Released by james-page> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731639>
[02:15] <thumper> it appears that things aren't as bad as I thought
[02:15] <anastasiamac> thumper: \o/ great thought for friday
[02:15] <thumper> we are broken from 2.1.2 -> 2.3.2 though
[02:17] <anastasiamac> thumper: my day is getting not so great as m not sure where to display this spaces info now in a sensible manner... mayb somethign will come to me over the wekend ... do we have good reasons for not having 'show-application' command, btw?
[02:17] <thumper> no, probably no good reason
[02:17] <thumper> just no need... so far
[02:18] <anastasiamac> thumper: ha :) i have just discovered the need then :) but will talk more about it next week....
[02:54] <wallyworld> thumper: just saw the bug update, so 2.2.x -> 2.3.x works? that would have been what was tested in CI etc hence it all seemed ok. it becomes a matter of how far back do we test
[02:54] <thumper> yeah...
[02:54] <wallyworld> 2.1 is quite old, may be out of the support window? not sure
[02:54] <thumper> but also, we need to take more care when updating state functions that are used for upgrade steps
[02:54] <wallyworld> ideally it would just work, but maybe theres a case for old versions to step through
[02:55] <wallyworld> that too yeah
[02:55] <wallyworld> it's not always obvious
[02:55] <wallyworld> as it maybe a transitive thing
[04:23] <thumper> anyone... https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8356
[04:25] <wallyworld> thumper: lgtm, ty
[05:57] <wallyworld_> anastasiamac: hey, can haz review? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8357
[05:57] <wallyworld_> no one else around to ask - normally andrew is here :-(
[05:57]  * anastasiamac looking
[05:57] <anastasiamac> :(
[06:10] <zeestrat> thumper: am I reading you right on that last upgrade bug that upgrading via 2.3.0 should work or do I need some more coffee?
[06:17] <wallyworld_> anastasiamac: thank you
[06:17] <anastasiamac> \o/
[06:17] <wallyworld_> zeestrat: i think you need to upgrade via 2.2.x first
[06:17] <wallyworld_> is my understanding
[06:17] <wallyworld_> and then once you're on 2.2.x you can go to 2.3.x
[06:18] <wallyworld_> but that assumes everything in the db is valid which may not be the case if some agents got stuck and wrote old data
[06:19] <wallyworld_> i'm not fully across the issue, just recounting what i know of it
[06:19] <zeestrat> Well that's not working so great. (Not nagging, just looking for all exit strategies) #1746265
[06:19] <mup> Bug #1746265: juju-upgrade from 2.2.9 to 2.3.2 fails with state changing too quickly <upgrade-juju> <juju:Triaged> <juju 2.2:Won't Fix> <juju 2.3:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746265>
[06:50] <wallyworld_> zeestrat: yeah, i'll have to catch up with tim to see where things are at with that one. i know people are looking at it
[07:37] <anastasiamac> wallyworld_: could u PTAL https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/8358 for the reasons u've stated :)
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[16:12] <hml> ryebot: ping
[16:12] <ryebot> hml: o/
[16:12] <hml> ryebot: i useded the cloud.yaml from the bug - works as is - no funny string stuff
[16:13] <ryebot> hml: Yeah I was following your progress, thanks for fixing that so quickly :)
[16:13] <hml> ryebot: thumper pointed me in the correct direction, so it was easy  :-)  he hit something similar recently
[16:14] <ryebot> hml: dynamic data structures in statically typed languages are no joke!
[16:15] <hml> ryebot: the problem was related to sending the complex data structure over the apiserver
[16:16] <hml> ryebot: you can try it out with either the candidate or edge juju snap
[16:16] <hml> ryebot: wait a few hours for the edge version
[16:17] <ryebot> hml: awesome, I'll probably give it a shot monday morning and let you know how it pans out
[16:17] <hml> ryebot: sounds good
[16:17] <ryebot> thanks again :)