[08:50] <tjaalton> I'm lost with lxc (again). created a container for bionic with "lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud -n autopkgtest-bionic -- -r bionic -d daily" and it worked, but the container is not listed in 'lxc list' and 'lxc info autopkgtest-bionic' just says "error: not found"
[08:51] <tjaalton> running autopkgtest of course fails with "Error: container autopkgtest-bionic is not defined"
[08:51] <tjaalton> it fails even with containers that lxc info does list
[08:51] <tjaalton> this is on a xenial box
[09:05] <cjwatson> tjaalton: you're mixing the lxc and lxd tools; generally speaking lxc-* and 'lxc *' don't mix
[09:06] <tjaalton> mixing how? these are from the manpages
[09:06] <cjwatson> tjaalton: well, it's wrong.  what manpages?
[09:06] <cjwatson> tjaalton: I mean, if you want to use lxc-* then you need to do that throughout, so you need to say lxc-ls -f rather than lxc list, etc.
[09:06] <tjaalton> autopkg-virt-lxc and autopkgtest
[09:07] <cjwatson> tjaalton: consider using the new world instead though as it's generally a lot easier to use; so 'adt-build-lxd ubuntu:bionic' to build the image and then it'll be a lxd image and show up in 'lxc list'
[09:07] <tjaalton> I've probably done that before
[09:08] <tjaalton> because lxc list does show two instances (for sid and zesty) but using them is the problem now :)
[09:08] <cjwatson> right, adt-virt-lxc(1) has the creation instructions you give but it certainly doesn't recommend using 'lxc list' afterwards.  try adt-virt-lxd(1) instead
[09:09] <cjwatson> ah, that actually recommends 'adt-build-lxd images:ubuntu/bionic/amd64' instead (ubuntu:... and images:ubuntu/... are built in somewhat different ways)
[09:09] <tjaalton> ok, I'll start from there and write this down somewhere..
[09:09] <tjaalton> too many ways to do something
[09:20] <tjaalton> autopkgtest in xenial is too old, doesn't have manpages for adt-virt-*
[09:20] <tjaalton> guess it's time to upgrade anyway
[09:21] <tjaalton> mine is from backports
[09:21] <cjwatson> I'm running xenial and have manpages for adt-virt-*.
[09:21] <tjaalton> huh
[09:21] <cjwatson> So ITYM too new.
[09:21] <cjwatson> They probably refactored something between 3.20.4 and 4.3 ...
[09:22] <tjaalton> why of course.. :)
[09:23] <tjaalton> it's autopkgtest-virt-* now
[11:12] <Mirv> everyone with lxc/lxd gets to the 'lxc' command confusion zone before learning the lxc=lxd lxc-=lxc truths :)
[11:12] <Mirv> recently I was doing lxc inside lxd and got somewhat even more confused
[11:16] <vila> Mirv: :)
[12:34] <tjaalton> well, creating a bionic container doesn't seem to work, networking fails
[12:34] <tjaalton> dns to be exact
[12:52] <Mirv> you can try creating /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf manually with nameserver 8.8.8.8
[12:55] <ogra_> on bionic rather /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf i
[12:55] <ogra_> i guess
[12:56] <tjaalton> how exactly, I'm just running autopkgtest-build-lxd
[12:58] <tarzeau> if i would like to get a package into 18.04, and something is stuck in new queue, any chance to speed it up?
[12:58] <tarzeau> the freeze is around end of february right?
[12:59] <jbicha> tarzeau: it's stuck in Debian's NEW queue, right?
[13:01] <tjaalton> I mean, the dns failure is in the container itself, it can't resolve archive.ubuntu.com...
[13:03] <tjaalton> huh, looks like the host is affected too, wth
[13:03] <tjaalton> nope, was just slow
[13:05] <Unit193> So you're just having a bad day..
[13:05] <Unit193> tjaalton: Oh, any chance -ati will be patched in bionic?
[13:05] <tjaalton> patched for what?
[13:06] <Unit193> freedesktop bug 102948
[13:07] <Unit193> Switching TTYs doesn't work out so well.
[13:07] <tjaalton> there will usually be new releases of ati & amdgpu before our FF
[13:08] <tjaalton> I'll poke MrCooper about it
[13:12] <Unit193> Thanks, and sounds good (looks like a few memleak fixes too.)
[13:14] <tarzeau> jbicha: yes, the font and colmap
[13:14] <tarzeau> jbicha: but i also plan to finish up cool-retro-term before march
[13:14] <jbicha> tarzeau: you could try asking #debian-ftp and explain why you think you need it processed sooner
[13:15] <jbicha> new packages can still be accepted into Ubuntu after Debian Import Freeze, but it's a manual process and not guaranteed
[14:57] <tarzeau> jbicha: it's not like we don't have an own repo at work. it'd just make it easier, and thinking globally, i'm sure there's a few people having fun at the colmap fonts-league-spartan packages
[15:02] <tarzeau> we haven't decided at work yet whether we stay with ubuntu 18.04 or go back to debian for the future...
[16:08] <pisi> hello, i'm curious, when will be released gnome 3.27 packages for ubuntu 18.04
[16:12] <juliank> pisi: Historically speaking it seems it started with the .9X series
[16:12] <juliank> that is, 3.27.91
[16:12] <juliank> merging the early alphas does not seem like a particularly good idea IMO
[16:13] <juliank> but I'm not a desktop guy :D
[16:15] <pisi> juliank: make sense, i heard theme and icon theme will change with 18.04. what about plymouth theme do you know?
[16:15] <juliank> nothing
[16:17] <pisi> this is bad i think plymouth theme too old
[16:19] <juliank> I don't care much what I see in these 5 seconds :D
[16:19] <juliank> but I'm pretty sure it's kept consistent with other stuff
[16:23] <juliank> hmm, it seems to me the theme has not changed since at least 2015
[16:23] <juliank> but then I don't think it looks a lot different from other UI elements
[16:28] <xnox> pisi, there was chatter about community engaged redesign of plymouth theme, but not sure if anything has happened yet. at least we do have new plymouth merged, and have high-dpi plymouth by default now.
[16:33] <pisi> xnox: Is there a link to this?
[16:43] <doko> cjwatson: fyi, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/355902779/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.py-macaroon-bakery_1.1.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[17:04] <cjwatson> doko: drat, thanks
[19:34] <wxl> i can confirm the installer does not have an SMP kernel, at least in that `uname -a` does not report SMP and CONFIG_SMP is not set in /boot/config*
[19:34] <wxl> oops wrong channel hah!
[22:07] <cjwatson> doko: py-macaroon-bakery fix uploaded to unstable