[00:02] http://vixra.org/pdf/1403.0293v1.pdf [00:04] That's why the universe is expanding. [00:04] Those silly trons bumping into each other creating rons. [00:07] michelson-morley experiment while in Low Earth Orbit is what we need [00:10] raingibs, thats not topical here [00:11] #ubuntu-offtopic for chatter please raingibs [00:11] okay sorry [00:11] thanks [00:19] re [00:20] TJ- ? [00:20] is he gone? [00:20] I wanted to thank him! [00:20] it worked [00:20] bye! [00:24] hey guys, can someone help me trouble shoot an executable that doesn't do anythign? [00:27] is this the right place for help with ubuntu? [00:32] um [00:36] where are my Unity launcher shortcuts located? [00:39] SmokinGrunts, might look in /usr/share/applications [00:40] Guest29917, how does Unity reference which apps show on the left-side bar? [00:40] i'm not sure. [00:41] fack. [00:41] brb [00:41] I have multiple versions of eclipse, and I'd *like* to open the .desktop for the appropriate icon to see where the path is [00:44] SmokinGrunts, this link might help https://www.lifewire.com/complete-guide-ubuntu-launcher-2202067 [00:44] irc chat is great [00:45] i love linux :DDD i'm so glad i switched [00:45] Tin_man, thanks for the link, but I see /usr/share/applications, and I'm just tryna find one single .desktop. I just fell back to 'find / -name '*.desktop'' === system is now known as Guest67162 [00:46] I'm tryna suss-out a font problem with an openjdk8 update [00:47] well, good luck.. never messed around with the fonts much.. thank goodness haven't had any problems todate. [00:47] natsu, yeah linux is awesome :) [00:47] yeah summin' happened and I wasn't on my "log everything before you change something" status [00:48] i've switched over to the Gnome desktop [00:48] got iiiiit === barrenwuffet is now known as ibttis [00:54] i compiled and installed a program but when i double click the executable nothing happens === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus === deathonater is now known as Smeef [01:00] http://vixra.org/pdf/1403.0293v1.pdf [01:00] sorry again [01:00] wrong channel === komugi is now known as slapper [01:02] hi [01:02] executable, like a .exe ? [01:02] Those don't work on linux without helper-programs [01:04] hey folks i'm here in support of bumblebee who came to #lubuntu looking for help and we're at a loss. thought we'd open things up to a wider audience. tl;dr, though he's trying to use lubuntu 17.10.1. hashes for both the iso and the media check out. booting without "quiet splash" the kernel loads up until "Freeing SMP alternatives memory: 36K [01:05] " and then all activity stops [01:05] anyone with ideas? [01:05] fwiw it's only on this one machine. [01:05] what was the name of your laptop again, bumblebee ? [01:05] hyrican rumba [01:06] rumba? [01:06] be aware we may have to sit and wait for a while bumblebee. if no one knows the answer, no one's going to say anything :) [01:06] https://www.notebookcheck.com/Hyrican-Rumba.2210.0.html [01:07] wxl: ok :) [01:07] Just from a quick google search I'd say the AMD turion is your issue [01:07] is that a known thing? [01:08] known as in newer distros don't generally work well(or at all) on older distros. I'm just taking a guess [01:08] er older comps [01:08] yeah i usually find the kernel drags along a lot of old legacy stuff with rare exceptions [01:09] this is how lubuntu manages to serve so many legacy machines, most of which are 32 bit === deathonater is now known as Smeef [01:10] hi, would it be possible to upgrade to 18.04 from 17.10 when 18.04 comes out? [01:10] testsing[m]: yep [01:11] are such upgrades usually involved are have they been painless more recently? [01:11] s/are/or/ [01:11] i've found them to be pretty painless for years [01:11] so maybe linux won't work on this computer, no matter which distribution i try? [01:13] It should work if you get an older kernel|distro. I think people used ubuntu netbook edition back in the day on turions [01:13] that's the suggestion made, bumblebee, but it's a shot in the dark guess. i'd be disinclined to say that definitively. linux works on much older machines than yours. [01:13] newer linux is what i mean [01:13] but certainly you could try an older ubuntu [01:14] 14.04 and 16.04 are still supported [01:14] shall i do that now? [01:14] can an upgrade in such cases be done with just "apt full-upgrade && apt dist-upgrade" ? [01:14] lubuntu 16.04? [01:14] sure [01:15] testsing[m]: to change versions, you want `do-release-upgrade` [01:15] testsing[m], it should give you the option when the Upgrade is available [01:15] oh, I see. I'll just use the Software Update Center in that case. [01:15] here's someone running ubuntu 10.04 on that same chip, bumblebee http://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench2/279388 [01:16] testsing[m]: that works too :) [01:16] Just to test that it isn't a graphics issue you should try to boot with nomodeset first, if you have not [01:16] sockmister, try running the program in a terminal. [01:16] already did [01:16] it doesn't even get to booting X [01:17] wxl: which version i should try first? [01:17] Might as well try 16.04 since 14 will be eol sooner [01:17] bumblebee: probably best to bisect the issue. use the oldest version first. if that doesn't work, you're probably going down the wrong path. [01:17] ok, so 10.04 [01:18] bumblebee: and along the lines of kenrin's point, you can always upgrade to 16.04 if 14.04 does work. [01:18] ubuntu then? [01:18] yes [01:18] I need to upgrade one of my servers to 16.04. Or I just might wait till 18.04 is stable and upgrade to that. [01:18] bumblebee: you won't find 10.04 easily. and it's not supported, so i woudln't bother with it. [01:18] is there a reason to use 10.04? [01:18] ok, then 14.04 - ubuntu or lubuntu? [01:18] bumblebee: i was just saying that someone has made that chip work with ubuntu in the past 7 years [01:18] i prefer xubuntu -- [01:19] yes, or maybe xubuntu [01:19] bumblebee: well, that's a matter of choice, but being completely unbiased, as a lubuntu team member, i'd say lubuntu. COMPLETELY UNBIASED. [01:19] has anyone tried 18.04 kubuntu? [01:19] blue1: might want to check in at #kubuntu-devel about that. i'm sure they have :) [01:19] ok wxl, i'll try lubuntu 14.04 [01:19] blue1, #ubuntu+1 for that [01:20] wxl: thanks [01:20] ^^ or that [01:20] oh yeah forgot about ubuntu+1 thanks [01:20] wxl, kubuntu goes the same place [01:21] guys I'm pretty new at linux, after compiling and running make/install I should just have to doubleclick on the executable to run a program right? [01:21] bazhang: although you can certainly say everyone in #kubuntu-devel is using kubuntu, and most likely has experience with the development version, while only the latter is true with #ubuntu+1 [01:21] wxl: 64-bit again, right? [01:21] sockmister: what software you trying to install? [01:21] bumblebee: your machine is certainly capable of it. you might try 32 bit, but if you can use 64 bit, i see no reason to use 32. [01:22] sockmister, Sometimes running an application in the terminal that isn't running will throw an error to let you know what's wrong. [01:22] ok [01:22] sal all [01:23] bumblebee: and make sure to check the hashes of the iso and run the check disc for defects (hopefully it works this time) at the boot menu before trying to run/install [01:23] all sleeping? [01:23] pantera it says command not found [01:24] but when i right click it it says it is executable in the properties === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [01:24] firefox 58 armhf crash on ubuntu 16.04 [01:24] Ok, when I want to install something I first try to install it through apt-get. Did you do that? [01:24] wxl: can i check the hashes tomorrow? i'm really tired now [01:24] sockmister: what software is this that it requires you to compile it? [01:25] Yeah, and what software is it sockmister [01:25] bumblebee: sure. i'm around every day normal working hours UTC-8 [01:25] xmr-stak-cpu-master [01:25] I think is a custm porn viewer :)) [01:25] Dianaxxyyzz, didn't have a problem with 58, or the update to 58.01 [01:25] wxl: ok thanks [01:26] sockmister: i assume the -master means it's the master branch of the development tree? [01:26] Tin_man: you user firefox 59.01 inside a armhf build and works ? [01:26] Tin_man: you use firefox 58.01 inside a armhf build and works ? [01:26] I had to use a really old version of FF to get it to work with my raspberry pi [01:26] 58.0.1 with Ubuntu 17.10 [01:27] not sure what armhf is. [01:27] i think so its from github [01:27] armv7l or aarch64 ? [01:27] sockmister: did you folllow the directions in LINUXCOMPILE.md? [01:27] yes [01:27] aham , i think is 64 bit one , 32 bit for me crash [01:28] What ubuntu are you on sockmister [01:28] after last step it doesnt say what to do so i just tried doubleclicking it and nothing happems [01:28] armhf is like 32 bit plus floating point I think [01:28] 16 [01:28] while you're in the terminal just ./the-executable [01:28] 16.04? [01:28] http://www.linuxhostingprovider.com/how-to/how-to-install-xmr-stak-cpu-for-monero-mining-on-ubuntu-16-04/ [01:29] ok ty wxl i didnt kmow about ./ [01:29] yes firefo 58.01 armhf crash on ubuntu 16.04 the aarch64 one works .. [01:29] I'm not sure that will help, but maybe you don't have the right dependencies [01:30] wxl: same problem with lubuntu-14.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso [01:30] now maybe 12.04? [01:30] bumblebee: assuming the hashes are still good, then it's probably not worth it to bother with old releases. it must be something else [01:30] ok [01:31] bumblebee: maybe tomorrow we head over to ##linux and see if we can make any headway. i'll stick around here in case anyone has any bright ideas meanwhile. [01:31] ok thanks a lot [01:31] have a good night [01:31] you too [01:31] 55h/s om 15 yr old pc im impressed [01:31] my main gets 170h/s lol [01:31] sockmister: so you're working? [01:32] yes [01:32] This machine dates back 10 years. [01:32] good on ya [01:32] if you want any more support, please see the developers of the software XD [01:32] (and bug them to make binary packages for debian/ubuntu) [01:32] can somebody compile firefox 58.01 ubuntu 16.04 armv7 one (armhf) with skia disabled? [01:32] the crash comes from skia [01:32] how can i edit the executable to work on doubleclick tho? [01:33] they should put that you have to use "./" in the compile instrucitons [01:34] sockmister: just do chmod +x binary [01:34] ls -l and give us the part that has the executible [01:34] executable [01:34] i'm not sure. it may be that the software is trying to find some configuration file or something that is within the compilation directory. you might be able to create a shell script to cd to the path and then run ./ and then double click on that [01:34] ^^ sockmister [01:34] (by the way, do you mist your socks with water or what?) [01:34] my stir [01:35] sock my stir [01:35] probably, it has a config.txt in same dir [01:35] does anybody have acces to a powerful armhf machine that can compile firefox ? into my phone it takes 23 hours to compile [01:35] pantera: that, unfortunately, would require an additional e :) [01:35] i created a link and sent to desktop but it doesn't launch the terminal [01:35] :) [01:35] is it a graphical app? [01:36] no [01:36] there's your problem [01:36] 58h/s on this old piece of shit dell micro tower! [01:36] Maybe it's running then? [01:36] so you'll probably want your shell file to run the command within the terminal [01:36] this cpu doesn't even support AES thats why i had to use this particular program [01:37] that's USUALLY -e cmd [01:37] wxl that sounds like creating a batch file in windows [01:37] put this into program.desktop [01:37] [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Program Comment=Program Exec=/bin/bash /home/v/myscript.sh Terminal=false X-MultipleArgs=false Type=Application [01:37] so something lke: cd /path/to/compilation/directory; x-terminal-emulator -e ./whatever-the-executable-is [01:38] Sounds like it yeah but the syntax of stuff is different. [01:39] ok ill just create thta in mousepade, what is the extension to make it a shell file? [01:39] Dianaxxyyzz: that kind of ignores the fact that it needs to run in a terminal [01:39] sockmister: .sh [01:39] ok [01:39] ok ty [01:40] just create a launcher on desktop and choose to run in terminal [01:40] that's unnecessary if they've got the script [01:41] How the armhf .deb are compiled ? They are cross compiled or ar compiled into a arm machine directly? [01:42] Is streage ubuntu have a deb for a program that compiled fine but allways crash on startup :))) [01:42] wxl on my system the .sh defaults to archive manager, what should i select as default for opening it, terminal? [01:42] select /bin/bash [01:42] i usually have to run sh file.sh [01:43] Is streage ubuntu have a deb for firefox 58.01 armhf that compiled fine but allways crash on startup :))) [01:44] Dianaxxyyzz: the last bionic firefox was built on this machine https://launchpad.net/builders/bos02-arm64-007 which appears to be arm64 [01:45] Dianaxxyyzz: you can see the build log here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/356308063/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-armhf.firefox_58.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz [01:46] Thaks wxl ,it is cross compiled ?or real arm64 machine? [01:46] Dianaxxyyzz: don't ask me. i don't do the compilation. loooks like the kernel says it's aarch64 [01:47] wxl i tried exactly whta you said and it didn't work so then i edited it to have the full path and it still doesn't... "cd /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin/stak; x-terminal-emulator -e /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin/stak.sh/xmr-stak-cpu" [01:47] Graet! , thank you so it explain why it crash , I read on some forums ppls say firefox 58 do NOT crash if is cross compiled [01:47] but i do now know how to cross compile it [01:48] Dianaxxyyzz: you might want to file a bug about it. [01:48] firefox 55 to 59 armhf crash because a skia asm code [01:48] putting ./ or just / or not makes no difference either, im stumped [01:48] sockmister: if you run all that in the terminal, does it result in the same problems? [01:49] but if it is cross compiled it looks to work , the guys at cromium had same problem but they resolved by cross compiling chromium [01:49] with the full path it says no child directory [01:49] Dianaxxyyzz: right. bug report. [01:49] maybe -e is the wrong switch. what's your terminal, sockmister ? [01:49] There are some bugs reports about it already ,but the problem looks to be not so easy to fix [01:50] Dianaxxyyzz: there's a bug report about the exact same problem? that has this exact same information about cross compilation? [01:50] I'm sure we can run ff 58 armhf it it will be cross compiled ,lile the guys at chromium did it [01:50] Terminal-emulator [01:50] Yes , the problem is same , but about cross compiling I read ona nother forum , [01:51] they at cromium had crash in skia too like ff [01:51] Dianaxxyyzz: so then add that to the bug report [01:51] ok , i do [01:51] if i remove the x- from that part nothing happens at all [01:51] Let's hope somebody manage to cross compile ff ,like they cross compiled chromium [01:51] sockmister: what's `ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator` give you? [01:52] The cromium guys said the error is strange it apear only if is not cross compiled [01:52] so maybe a linker or compiler bug [01:52] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Feb 5 10:28 /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator -> /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper [01:52] ok xfce4-terminal is your terminal then socky [01:53] and -e should be right [01:53] hold on tho [01:53] looking at your command above something seems wrong [01:54] "cd [01:54] /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin/stak; x-terminal-emulator [01:54] -e /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin/stak.sh/xmr-stak-cpu" [01:54] sorry for the annoying paste. [01:54] //bin/stak in one case [01:54] //bin/stack.sh in another [01:54] ugh [01:54] you get the idea [01:55] I have a .rar file which 'unrar' tells me is "not a RAR archive" but it is a valid archive and it extracts in windows w/ 7zip any ideas? looks like my unrar version is 4.00 beta3 is there a newer version I should get or something? This box is still on 12.04 [01:55] hello, I have some issue with the desktop workspace switcher, anyone feels like having the knowledge to help me troubleshoot the cause please? [01:55] gunarm_: If you can use WINE, download win-rar and do a repair on the .rar file. [01:56] gunarm_: might try unar. [01:56] unless i'm wrong.. it handles rars. [01:56] wxl, you mean untar? [01:56] finally got it with "cd /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin; xfce4-terminal -e /home/c/Downloads/xmr-stak-cpu-master/bin/xmr-stak-cpu" [01:56] no. unar [01:56] gunarm_: Chances are if it reports that it's not a rar archive, it's likely corrupt somehow. [01:58] gunarm_: but you can usually recover some uncorrput files in the archive, even if the archive itself is corrupt. [01:59] Euph0ria, I really don't think it's corrupt. 7zip unpacks it and doesn't mention anything about it having to fix issues... I see this frequently when it's a multifile archive where all the parts are .rar instead of part1 being .rar and then .r01 .r02 etc, that could be a red herring [01:59] wxl, trying unar [02:00] sheesh it took me forever to find the link to unar but here is https://theunarchiver.com/command-line [02:01] hah, sorry [02:01] gunarm_: Yeah, 7-zip doesn't check for problems the way winrar does. Good luck. [02:01] so unar gives more or less the same error. maybe it actually is corrupt, and 7zip is just handling it somehow. [02:01] I'll chck the checksum [02:02] supposedly unar is supposed to handle multiple volumes [02:02] if that's the issue [02:02] i've never had a valid archive it couldn't crack open [02:02] of course i don't usually bother with weird rars much [02:02] I avoid it if I have a choice ;p [02:03] gunarm_: There isn't a substitute for winrar out there, sadly. [02:03] i'm surprised 7z has better support because afaik it's got limited support for rars [02:03] well like Euph0ria it might just be sorta blundering through and not giving me a good file [02:03] meaning it doesn't cover all of its many variations [02:03] but unrar and unar are both like "wtf is this? no!" [02:04] gunarm_: If it's a split rar file, then you may have to try and re-acquire the file again, if you can. [02:04] But I'm betting since you're trying to repair it, that's not an option. [02:06] I tried it already, I'm not exactly trying to repair it, I was more suspecting there was some new invention in rar format since 2010 that unrar didn't handle but 7z does, that's why I was asking about updating unrar. Seems like that is wrong though [02:06] gunarm_: RAR5 [02:06] it's not a big deal, more I was just curiosu [02:06] Euph0ria, is that winrar only? [02:08] gunarm_: To make them, I believe so. To repair, most definitely. [02:08] Euph0ria, interesting. I bet that's what this is. I might install winrar just to get some info off of it [02:11] Could try unrar-nonfree or whatever it called [02:11] i thought unrar WAS nonfree [02:11] gunarm_: I have to use winrar to deal with a lot of rar files other software doesn't seem to like, and that's pretty much the only time. [02:11] I thought there was two versions, just one was free [02:13] Tho, winrar will also let you do stuff like add PAR2-like error recovery data to archives, also. [02:13] And that might trip up any number of archivers/compressor software. [02:14] Especially if it came from Usenet. [02:14] omg did you just say usenet? [02:14] * wxl checks Euph0ria for a pulse [02:14] lol [02:15] Whats wrong with usenet [02:15] nothing. gopher's really useful, too [02:15] kenrin: Not a thing, it's just been around for a long long time. [02:15] Euph0ria, interesting thought, the archive (according to winrar) is not rar5 but it very well might (ahem) have come from some place like what you described [02:15] Still awesome. [02:15] It has gotten better though, I love sonarr [02:17] You can build unrar from the rarlab website to get it fully updated [02:24] kenrin, intersting proposition. FWIW winrar says no issues with the archive, all wierd features absent, so odd it won't open with unrar. might build from source [02:24] You using unrar or unrar-free ? === arthur is now known as Guest61597 [02:25] I'm not actually sure how to tell. I know that unrar-nonfree is a thing but not sure how to switch [02:26] gunarm_: segmented RAR files very frequently originate from Usenet, then get spread around on IRC, Torrents, etc... [02:26] You can do a apt search unrar, it should tell you which is installed [02:29] kenrin, ah yes ok it's unrar (not unrar-free) [02:30] Ah no dice then, the free one won't do any better [02:39] I'm running Xenial -- what is the easiest way to install an Aardvark package along with all of its dependencies? [02:44] What is the name of the "Software Center" program (for CLI)= [02:44] ? [02:44] What is its binary name? [02:46] asarch, are you thinking of dselect? [02:47] asarch: software-center [02:47] Thank you! [02:47] how can i set apparmor to permisive? [02:47] asarch: or /usr/bin/software-center [02:47] Thank you very much :-) === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === Extermin- is now known as Exterminador [03:07] Hexchat does Color? :o [03:08] Yes [03:11] ubuntu 16.04 can be run with any 3.+ kernel version? === Extermin- is now known as Exterminador [03:24] hi [03:24] uit [03:24] quit [03:24] exit [03:28] hi [03:28] jj [03:28] aa [03:29] Hi [03:35] fafdasdasdas [03:35] asfdsfdsfds [03:35] fdfds [03:35] *testing keyboard* [03:35] :) [03:36] Not exactly sure where to post this... but I'm stuck with my PC that is currently running ubuntu 14.04 on it, I am trying to install windows 7 and am having difficulties, can anyone help me troubleshoot? I've tried to use gparted to partition my drive but it's not allowing me to do so and I can't run ubuntu live mode on a USB it just boots to a black screen..... === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:39] hi === slapper is now known as komugi [03:39] Is any one at here ? [03:40] Hello World [03:40] oh no! [03:40] I can't say. [03:40] If I could fly [03:40] ImANOOB_: youshold stay with ubuntu for longer [03:40] .... [03:41] Hor are u doing xi4okv? [03:41] how** [03:41] I'm fine , thanks [03:41] :) [03:42] great [03:42] any ptoject? [03:42] any project? [03:42] maybe [03:42] what project you want? [03:43] brb i have to work [03:43] c'ya all [03:44] Ethical Hacker Knowledge Transfer [03:46] Hi [03:47] clear [03:47] haha [03:47] okdk [03:47] I'm back! [03:47] welcome [03:47] Where are you from ? [03:47] Brazil [03:47] !ot [03:47] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:48] I like the football [03:48] Lol, I don't [03:48] What ? [03:48] not sure, I never had a good football Skill's [03:49] folks, this is a support channel *only* please go elsewhere for generic chat [03:49] sorry dude, thanks see ya [03:49] oh yeah.. [03:58] v [04:00] w [04:05] is there any tool in ubuntu ,can collect document download link . like spider tool? [04:05] i don't have ability to coding , any easy tool [04:09] HOla queria conectar el HDMI a la tele [04:09] I recently got a different modem and these past two days my internet's not working after I suspend but it does turn back on after I restart computer. [04:09] I'm now using an Arris TM822r. Kind of a linux newb so forgive me for dumb questions. If you need me to do something else for more info please let me know. [04:09] I'm using ubuntu 17.10 === mkv is now known as m4v [04:19] can someone please help me? [04:20] kinasin: doesn't seem like anyone around knows. you could ask in ##linux perhaps [04:21] ok ty [05:17] The latest release version is 16.04 ? [05:18] How to install the ubuntu with cobbler? [05:19] Nobody .. [05:19] Hey guys, I'm wondering why some Gnome 3 apps aren't themed, any ideas? [05:19] Also have a icon in the upper right of all of my windows, how do I get rid of that? [05:20] latest is 17.10 16.04 is latest long term service [05:20] Nobody on here? [05:23] if I deleted the apt source for the Intel 01.org driver updater, removed the updater, and install the Obiaf intel graphics ppa for 17.10, will I have remove all the intel graphics updater stuff I installed? [05:24] Cause I did a 'probably stupid', manually changed my lsb-release to zesty, ran the Intel Graphics Updater, and the put lsb back. [05:24] And then decided that likely wasn't a good idea [05:25] Ouch [05:25] Yeah. Nothing SEEMS broken... but I don't know if I ought to reinstall because I've horribly broken things behind the scenes, or if installing the obiaf ppa replaced anything that would have been installed by the Intel tool, so I'm fine [05:26] If it works, it works [05:26] Just keep your data safe [05:28] mmm I found a script to list WHERE each installed package I have came from, I'll try running this and | grep 01 [05:29] (01.org being the intel driver repo) [05:30] Do ya thing [05:37] how do I change the default media player in ubuntu 16.04. If I go into settings/preferred apps -- it's not there. [05:38] Perhaps through right click, properties, select whatever app, set as default [05:38] If nothing else works [05:42]