[00:10] <Drunkhawk91> @Outy how did you defined to open .mod with parole media player?
[00:12] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: right clicked open with selected parole media player set always open check
[00:13] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: I just want that file association to go away ... as if the system has no file association
[00:15] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: I read for hours in google    about mime types and mimeapps.list  and so on but no luck   it just stays   ... yeah sure i can select another association like open *.mod with mousepad but i just want to clear that association so that doubleclicking *.mod does nothing
[00:16] <yorozuya3> hi
[00:16] <Drunkhawk91> @Ousty you are using your default file manager to open your file? (thunar?)
[00:20] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: Yes Sir its Thunar
[00:23] <Drunkhawk91> @Outy I just installed Thunar, I can change my default program with right click->properties->open with (tested with txt files)
[00:26] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: there you go, but how do you remove the association? so when you double click on txt files it will not know with waht program thunar should open the file and instead asks with what prog it should open the file
[00:31] <Outy> Tricky question I know
[00:31] <Outy> I cannot figure it out
[00:32] <Drunkhawk91> @Outy oh sry, didn't really understood your question, I'll try some things
[00:35] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: maybe this will help: think of a new file type *.???  if it is the first time you ever double klick on it - thunar will ask with what program should it open the file. you set it to open it with ???Program
[00:37] <Jordan_U> Outy: Have you already tried editing /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml and then running "sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime/"? (Note, I have never done this, and am somewhat guessing. This may break things, it seems like you're determined enough to try it and spend time fixing things if it does).
[00:37] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: and i want to remove the known file association with *.mod <-> parole media player    so when i double click *.mod in future thunar will ask me again how to open the file (but i will surely never set a default program again ;o) )
[00:39] <Drunkhawk91> @Outy yep, this was my idea, I had a similar pbm some months ago and I fixed, I saved the bookmark somewhere, trying to find it
[00:41] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: freedesktop.org.xml is just a mime description but no association with programs listed here
[00:43] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: the best hint i found so far is ~/.config/mimeapps.list  here the user defined associations are stored. its save to delete. but still parole mediaplayer is lauched at executing a *.mod file
[00:45] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: please mind its not that i have a problem here, but it would be nice to know how file associations are removed properly in ubuntu / xubuntu
[00:45] <Outy> so dont break your head about it ;o)
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Outy: What is the output of "gvfs-mime --query audio/x-mod" on your computer? On mine, the default is totem (I don't think I've ever opened a mod file on this machine).
[00:46] <Drunkhawk91> @Outy That's why I'm with you, I'm wondering too :p and I'm sure I solve a simlar problem with mime types (on a debian machine)
[00:47] <Outy> Default application for 'audio/x-mod': parole.desktop
[00:47] <Outy> Registered applications:
[00:47] <Outy> 	parole.desktop
[00:47] <Outy> Recommended applications:
[00:47] <Outy> 	parole.desktop
[00:49] <LevierMRQ> svp During an update, if unsure, should i accept an Grub update
[00:49] <nojitron> hi guys what irc client would u recomment as a good allrounder and that is able to share files for ubuntu 17.10
[00:50] <Outy> pidgin ?
[00:50] <nojitron> using online client atm
[00:50] <nojitron> cool
[00:50] <Jordan_U> LevierMRQ: What do mean by accept? You shoule generally allow all packages to be upgraded when upgrades are available. Are you getting an additional prompt when you try to install grub updates? If so, what is the prompt?
[00:51] <Jordan_U> nojitron: What do you mean by "good allrounder"? Generally, and client that isn't specifically designed for IRC falls short in my humble opinion.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> s/and/any/
[00:52] <LevierMRQ> Jordan_U: Thanks.  Will doublecheck :)
[00:55] <Outy> Jordan_U: like i said: Pidgin Internet Messenger
[00:57] <Outy> Drunkhawk91: I purged Parole Media Player via apt-get purge parole --auto-remove --purge   file association is gone now ;o)    i never used it anyway  LOL
[01:13] <BloqueNegro> anybody here working with ubuntu and ipv6 privacy extensions?
[01:14] <BloqueNegro> as long as i dont use the network manager, it appears that ubuntu refuses to use privacy extensions, even though net.ipv6.conf.all/default.use_tempaddr are set to 2
[01:15] <BloqueNegro> which happens per default via 10-ipv6-privacy.conf
[01:15] <BloqueNegro> however, unless network-manager is used for network config, i need to set it explicit for each interface, otherwise its ignored
[01:15] <BloqueNegro> anyone here who could explain that to me?
[01:18] <compdoc> you said if you dont use NM, it doesnt work. thats a config problem
[01:18] <BloqueNegro> the parameter seems to be ignored by whoever manages network on the host
[01:18] <BloqueNegro> if i set it for the interface it works
[01:19] <BloqueNegro> and i want to know wether thats a bug or a feature - or if i missed something
[01:25] <nojitron> if i wanted to write a script to run these commands would i do it in say nano and save as ./ for file type
[01:25] <nojitron> i know nothing about scripting and am new to ubuntu
[01:26] <nojitron> https://postimg.org/image/l0wv7r7xn/
[01:26] <BloqueNegro> file type?
[01:26] <BloqueNegro> wat?
[01:27] <nojitron> what would the text file look like
[01:27] <BloqueNegro> give me a sec
[01:27] <nojitron> sure
[01:29] <merryganjas> anyone know any signature formats that are 72 bytes wide?
[01:29] <nojitron> BloquNegro id like to include password also can you include a password line please
[01:30] <merryganjas> https://gnunet.org/downloads    i downloaded the 3rd and 4th files at that link gtk tar.gz and gtk tar.gz.sig
[01:30] <BloqueNegro> https://paste.ubuntu.com/=vtvgBx7gCm/
[01:30] <nojitron> thanks man will look now
[01:31] <BloqueNegro> then make it executable with chmod +x
[01:31] <BloqueNegro> even though the clean solution would probably be to manage this with systemd
[01:31] <SlappyPoland> hi everyone
[01:32] <Nozarashi> hi
[01:32] <nojitron> thank you very much
[01:32] <SlappyPoland> wot do you guys do here?
[01:32] <nojitron> if i wanted to do the same and it not be a python script would it look very different eg terminal only
[01:33] <nojitron> i tried in the pass and got to the point of password entry
[01:33] <nojitron> then i was stuck
[01:33] <kenrin> Read the topic Slappy
[01:33] <kenrin> It could ya know,  have some information
[01:34] <BloqueNegro> nojitron: a... python script?
[01:34] <BloqueNegro> where do you have a py script?
[01:34] <SlappyPoland> python?
[01:34] <SlappyPoland> i know some python
[01:36] <BloqueNegro> i posted you some bash code ;)
[01:36] <BloqueNegro> but like i said, probably using a systemd.service file would be much cleaner
[01:36] <nojitron> i assumed what u wrote for me was python lol it wasnt since it has no .py yes? stoopid me lols
[01:36] <nojitron> thank u for ur work
[01:37] <BloqueNegro> nojitron: have a look at the first line
[01:37] <nojitron> what is the term used to describe what u just wrote bash script?
[01:38] <BloqueNegro> 'writing a bash script'?
[01:38] <BloqueNegro> nothing fancy, really ;)
[01:38] <BloqueNegro> but gimme another sec, i have to check something
[01:39] <nojitron> no worries
[01:40]  * SlappyPoland is Mark Shuttleworth
[01:40] <nojitron> i would like to learn more about how to bash script and once mastering that python can u recommend a good start point link site book(so many choices dont know where to start)
[01:41] <nojitron> i know a few commands but thats it
[01:41] <nojitron> done the whole hello world etc
[01:41] <nojitron> brb myself 2mins
[01:41] <SlappyPoland> how to you write bash script?
[01:43] <hggdh> nojitron, SlappyPoland: see,for example, http://www.tldp.org/guides.html for bashbooks
[01:43] <BloqueNegro> nojitron: probably have a look at the oreilly books, imho most of them are quite good
[01:43] <BloqueNegro> also just found out you can use systemd to start openvpn connections
[01:43] <BloqueNegro> awesome :3
[01:44] <kenrin> systemd can start anything if you got a service file
[01:44] <merryganjas> anyone can help me with this gnunet signature problem https://gnunet.org/downloads    i downloaded from the 3rd and 4th mirrors, the tar.gz and corresponding tar.gz.sig file...the signature is 72 bytes??? am i supposed to truncate it to 64? what kind of signature is this and how do i verify it?
[01:44] <BloqueNegro> copy the .conf file to /etc/openvpn and then run 'systemctl start openvpn@myconfigfile'
[01:44] <BloqueNegro> kenrin: i know, but i didn't know they already prepared a service file :)
[01:44] <Bashing-om> nojitron: SlappyPoland . See : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[01:45] <cxm> hello
[01:46] <merryganjas> this is the only reference i found for 576bit/72byte hash "However, since the last c bits of the extended Pi are 0 anyway, and XOR with 0 is a noop, it is sufficient to perform XOR operations only for r bits (r = 1600 − 2 × 224 = 1152 bits for SHA3-224, 1088 bits for SHA3-256, 832 bits for SHA3-384 and 576 bits for SHA3-512)"
[01:47] <SlappyPoland> k danks
[01:47] <BloqueNegro> merryganjas: it seems to be a 'detached OpenPGP signature (72 bytes)'
[01:47] <BloqueNegro> so i assume its some magic foo which will be used by tar
[01:48] <merryganjas> detached?
[01:48] <BloqueNegro> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946900&p=11793393#post11793393
[01:48] <merryganjas> what you reckon is the magic invoke to see if the sig matches the file hash?
[01:49] <merryganjas> cant check signature public key not found ???
 thanks alot for ur help mate
[01:50] <nojitron> r u australian lol
[01:50] <nojitron> Bloque
[01:51] <BloqueNegro> nah, german ;)
[01:51] <nojitron> love the name
[01:51] <nojitron> cool as
[01:51] <BloqueNegro> maybe lets put the ot talk to a query ;)
[01:51] <nojitron> soz sure thing
[01:51] <BloqueNegro> merryganjas: i guess you have to find the according public key somewhere on the webiste
[01:58] <BloqueNegro> merryganjas: after further google-foo it seems the file was signed by Christian Grothoff
[01:58] <BloqueNegro> however, the according key 48426C7E was revoked
[01:58] <BloqueNegro> so best idea would probably to look for his contact info on the website and ask for a new signed version :)
[01:59] <BloqueNegro> if you still want to use it, here is the public key
[01:59] <BloqueNegro> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFCD86CD048426C7E
[02:00] <cookmod> why does windows run better than any linux distro ive tried?
[02:00] <cookmod> windows 7
[02:00] <BloqueNegro> cookmod: a fiat is easier to drive than a porsche
[02:01] <BloqueNegro> however, depending on your skills and requirements, the porsche might work out much better for you :)
[02:01] <crond> please define 'run better'
[02:01] <crond> that's a very vague term
[02:01] <BloqueNegro> and atleast for me, linux is by now easier to use than windows and 'runs better'
[02:02] <cookmod> crond: linux just freezes whenever i have multiple chrome tabs doing stuff
[02:02] <cookmod> my pc is crap btw
[02:02] <crond> yeah, then something is weird on your end
[02:02] <crond> cause I've run it on a chromebook with a celeron and 2gb ram and not had that occur.
[02:02] <BloqueNegro> cookmod: try a light distro like xubuntu
[02:02] <cookmod> BloqueNegro: i'm on ubuntu but using lxde with it
[02:02] <BloqueNegro> i ran xubuntu on really really old pcs, works like a charm :)
[02:03] <BloqueNegro> uh, k
[02:03] <BloqueNegro> probably try another browser and monitor if cpu/ram gets maxed out
[02:03] <cookmod> BloqueNegro: it's faster yes but when i try do to mutiple things it freezes for a while like 5 minutes XD
[02:03] <merryganjas> BloqueNegro: whats the reason for providing a signature for the download file as opposed to a hash?
[02:04] <crond> given that I can run X with LXDE on my beaglebone black with a TI-OMAP CPU and 512 mb RAM...
[02:04] <crond> it's no speed demon but doesn't freeze
[02:04] <BloqueNegro> merryganjas: a signature can only be created if you own the private key
[02:04] <cookmod> i can't do shit on my pc not even games :(
[02:04] <crond> so it's something you-specific, hardware or configuration or something
[02:04] <BloqueNegro> so a hacker could compromise the website but not upload a 'trusted version'
[02:04] <crond> cookmod, then upgrade to a $35 raspberry pi 3. lol
[02:05] <merryganjas> its strange, most places provide a hash just to verify you have the correct download
[02:05] <crond> it can at least run Minecraft :D
[02:05] <BloqueNegro> otherwise, security guys are the second most paranoid species on this planet, right after people who do meth
[02:05] <BloqueNegro> so it may be a security concern :D
[02:05] <merryganjas> some of them do meth too
[02:05] <merryganjas> lol
[02:05] <cookmod> crond: i can only play LoL on this pc
[02:05] <BloqueNegro> that would explain almost everthing about pgp/gpg
[02:05] <crond> yeah I'd say that'd be reason to not trust their judgement.
[02:06] <cookmod> with shit fps
[02:06] <crond> you want to give me security advice, yet you do meth? your judgement and discernment are suspect.
[02:07] <crond> cookmod, I dunno man. This is the equivalent of you going to your mechanic and saying 'my car isn't running well' and giving no further info.
[02:07] <merryganjas> actually meth will make them work better, this was tested..intellectuals will work long hours on meth without compromising their learned knowledge
[02:07] <crond> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:07] <BloqueNegro> crond: the amount of drugs you do does not change the security of your cryptography :>
[02:07] <merryganjas> im not sure about ability to learn new things, but ritalin is basically meth and people in college take ritalin and aderall
[02:08] <crond> merryganjas, I dunno, I see the meth'd out people a few blocks away and can't take seriously anyone who thinks that's a GOOD idea.
[02:08] <BloqueNegro> ritalin is _NOT_ meth
[02:08] <crond> given as I live in the ghetto.
[02:08] <BloqueNegro> by far not
[02:08] <merryganjas> im not saying its a good idea, maybe its laced meth
[02:08] <merryganjas> aderall,ritalin, meth = same effect almost
[02:08] <BloqueNegro> tried both. ritalin is awesome for learning
[02:08] <BloqueNegro> meth is just 'stay awake for three days, get paranoid'
[02:08] <crond> and I've seen what meth did to poor Florida Man.  he used to be awesome, and now he's into all sorts of problems.  But this is -offtopic material now
[02:08] <BloqueNegro> fckin bullshit
[02:09] <BloqueNegro> dont try meth my friends. its like using windows 10
[02:09] <BloqueNegro> may be fun at the start, but you end broke and crying in your shower
[02:09] <BloqueNegro> *end up
[02:09] <cookmod> crond: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU        E3400  @ 2.60GHz
[02:10] <cookmod> thats my cpu LOL
[02:10] <crond> what the heck? I haven't heard of an E-series celeron
[02:10] <crond> Oh, it's from 2010
[02:10] <cookmod> yeah its old shit
[02:10] <merryganjas> i dont know, between windows 10 and meth id have to take the meth option as it will help me study for 3 days straight whereas windows will crash so many times on the first day
[02:10] <crond> yeah, man, spend the $150 and get a used Thinkpad or something with an i5
[02:11] <crond> at this point you're just being a masochist.
[02:11] <merryganjas> i got an a8 series amd laptop with 8gb ram and 1 tb hd at 200$ at a pawn shop
[02:11] <cookmod> cant search shit on google becaues its all swedish lol
[02:11] <cookmod> on vpn
[02:12] <cookmod> but still linux is so slow compared to win 7 on this pc
[02:12] <crond> well you'd want to be running a linux for low-end systems, not full ubuntu.
[02:12] <cookmod> every major distro (fedora, mint, ubutntu
[02:13] <crond> puppy linux or something if thats still a thing
[02:13] <cookmod> crond: :(
[02:13] <crond> cookmod, https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/10/4-best-linux-distros-older-hardware%20
[02:13] <cookmod> but i want ubuntu
[02:13] <merryganjas> what about arch linux...pain in the ass, but is it faster than windows 7?
[02:13] <kenrin> Use a lightweight one that is for embedded systems
[02:13] <merryganjas> or the guy on meth
[02:13] <crond> lubuntu might work
[02:13] <crond> as an ubuntu variant
[02:13] <BloqueNegro> merryganjas: are is awesome
[02:13] <crond> but it's slimmed down
[02:14] <cookmod> merryganjas: i taught my self how to install arch on a virtual machine but im scared to  try on real pc
[02:14] <BloqueNegro> the userbase tries to fulfill every stereotype about linux users
 lolz
[02:14] <mumixam> anyone have any idea why ssh would be slow to repond on lan (0.2ms rtt)
[02:14] <merryganjas> true
[02:15] <kenrin> DNS,  kerberos, GSSAPI could cause ssh slow
[02:15] <cookmod> as long as i dont have win 10 im fine tho
[02:15] <cookmod> fuck that shit
[02:15] <merryganjas> i would think slow ssh response on lan would be beneficial to protect against ddos..make each connection wait
[02:15] <nojitron> agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
[02:15] <kenrin> woah language,  mods will ban ya for that
[02:15] <BloqueNegro> https://imgur.com/a/XYvcY
[02:15] <BloqueNegro> my favorite
[02:16] <cookmod> cant curse anywhere on the internet :(
[02:16] <merryganjas> its funny we cant curse on the internet but we can release real curses
[02:16] <mumixam> kenrin: this is typing delay, pressed keys take 1 second to appear
[02:16] <merryganjas> or seals
[02:16] <mumixam> ssh localhost has no issue
[02:16] <kenrin> Is it a VM or a full server ?
[02:17] <mumixam> full
[02:17] <kenrin> Not under load ?
[02:17] <mumixam> not enough to have 1second delay
[02:17] <merryganjas> im just on meth mind me not
[02:17] <mumixam> terminal and ssh localhost from vnc functions 100% fine
[02:18] <kenrin> Just try to disable the useDNS,  the reverse lookups.  See what happens
[02:18] <mumixam> already off
[02:19] <mumixam> rdns lookups only effect time to login anyway
[02:19] <mumixam> this is constant ~1 second delay
[02:20] <cookmod> there was a recent bug that caused my screen to crash after i would click the home button
[02:20] <kenrin> No idea then.  I had one doing that this week after I setup bind but didn't change the resolv
[02:20] <cookmod> only affected older cpus
[02:22] <cookmod> https://askubuntu.com/questions/992571/gui-unity-crashing-in-16-04-lts-after-updates-2018-01-04-compiz-segfaults
[02:33] <cookmod> k bye guys thanks for the help
[02:36] <Crashbit> I'll try to use tinc vpn with ubuntu server 17.10, but when I use systemd command to start service doesn't work. I think it's problem with netplan, becous when I start service with tincd daemon works perfect. I've read a problem with netplan and if-up scrits here. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1718227
[02:36] <Crashbit> Anyone can help me?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> Crashbit, if it's an unfixed bug, there's nothing we can do
[02:43] <JoeLlama> I
[02:44] <JoeLlama> I'm trying to play a video.  Ubuntu 17.10.  No codecs installed.  Offline "airgapped" system.  How do I get codecs on it?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !offline | JoeLlama
[02:46] <JoeLlama> thanks cfhowlett but...  I think that is obvious... what I need to know is how and where... the logisitics
[02:47] <JoeLlama> I have already given up on installing VLC offline.  Looks like getting all the dependencies is not possible... at least not for me.
[02:47] <JoeLlama> so I am using the native video player.
[02:47] <JoeLlama> I just need the codecs
[02:48] <JoeLlama> anyone else?
[02:51] <JoeLlama> !offline codecs
[02:51] <JoeLlama> !offline codecs | JoeLlama
[02:51] <JoeLlama> hrm that doesn't work
[02:51] <JoeLlama> !offline JoeLlama
[02:51] <JoeLlama> !offline | JoeLlama
[02:51] <JoeLlama> ah
[02:53] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, pro-tip:  /msg ubottu !offline    will send it to you privately
[02:54] <JoeLlama> thanks cfhowlett :)
[02:54] <Kon-> Why are you trying to watch videos on an airgapped system?
[02:54] <JoeLlama> Kon- it's on a private network which will NEVER touch the "wire"
[02:55] <JoeLlama> any other questions?
[02:55] <JoeLlama> it seems a lot of people have trouble with that concept and I don't understand why...
[02:55] <JoeLlama> the network has nuclear lauch codes on it, I would hate to have that information get out over the internet.
[02:56] <Kon-> I'm just confused as to why your tightly secured machine is also being used as your entertainment device
[02:56] <JoeLlama> the network?
[02:56] <kk4ewt> JoeLlama,  but yet you are  willing to chance it with sneakernet
[02:56] <JoeLlama> because one of the boxes on the network is a media center
[02:56] <Guest40782> exit
[02:56] <Kon-> The media files you are bringing onto the airgapped system are a large security risk as well
[02:56] <JoeLlama> sneaker net is harder to breach
[02:56] <kk4ewt> not really
[02:57] <JoeLlama> harder to get information off of
[02:57] <Kon-> Or the USB drive you use to transport files
[02:57] <JoeLlama> well at least it's better than being on the wire
[02:57] <cfhowlett> use on of the machines that is NOT on the network to launch the !offline scirpt and download the files.  return your USB to the target machien and sudo dpkg -i all the .debs
[02:57] <JoeLlama> and I'm not using a USB I'm using a chinese well
[02:58] <JoeLlama> the chinese well helps isolate
[02:58] <JoeLlama> yes cfhowlett... which .debs?
[02:58] <JoeLlama> I will research forums now
[02:59] <cfhowlett> the ones that the download script specifies
[02:59] <JoeLlama> oh good :) and where is this script cfhowlett?
[02:59] <cfhowlett> !offline | JoeLlama       <<< read
[02:59] <JoeLlama> and there's the rub
[02:59] <JoeLlama> ok off to the forums
[03:08] <Crashbit> cfhowlett: ok, thx
[03:09] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, if your offline system config matches your online system, generate the script from the online, apt-get download the files, walk them to the target and sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[03:19] <JoeLlama> bak & found the info I needed
[03:19] <JoeLlama> There is no walking cfhowlett...  I use a chinese wall
[03:19] <JoeLlama> afk
[03:19] <cfhowlett> OK
[03:31] <Clien> i created file on 22 Nov 2015 at 8.00pm and i want to find it by date cuz i lost the place of it
[03:35] <crond> Clien, ls -al  | grep 22
[03:35] <crond> ?
[03:35] <crond> if you know what directory it's in
[03:36] <Clien> i dont know the dir
[03:36] <Clien> thats why i want to find it by date
[03:42] <Clien> crond,
[03:42] <crond> yes?
[03:42] <crond> Oh
[03:43] <Clien> i dont know the Dir
[03:43] <crond> idk sorry mate.  Can you search in your file manager? nautilus or something?
[03:43] <Clien> its ssh server
[03:49] <ashan> hi
[03:50] <musti_> hi
[04:11] <tfitts> I'm trying to setup Monit.  I've installed it.  When I run monit it says Starting monit daemon with http interface at [localhost:2812] but then if I try monit status it says monit: Status not available -- the monit daemon is not running
[04:12] <merryganjas> a special network for the purpose of scraping. is this something that is yet to be created?
[04:12] <merryganjas> anyone know a service i can use for a web crawler im creating where its main benefit is very many ip addresses so as not to get banned for crawling too much? maybe a p2p system based on the concept of distributin a scrape across multiple nodes...tor doesnt have enough ips so im not going to use that.
[04:13] <tfitts> they exist, are you hoping for free?
[04:13] <merryganjas> are you speaking of clouds?
[04:13] <merryganjas> i have yet to see a cloud that gives you very many ip addresses at whim
[04:13] <merryganjas> amazon seems to be limited to region and i think nat
[04:14] <merryganjas> but im not too sure
[04:14] <tfitts> https://blog.hartleybrody.com/scrape-amazon/ proxybonanza.com is what he used
[04:16] <tfitts> that's what you're looking for more or less, right?
[04:24] <merryganjas> is it possible for someone to use the proxy service sites that are paid or unpaid and abuse enough ip addresses into blacklists on amazon, ebay, or any larger site for that matter so that when you pay those proxy sites, some of the ip addresses you get are already blacklisted?
[04:25] <Flannel> tfitts: It's probably running, it's just running from your console and so may appear different than if it were running as a daemon.
[04:25] <tfitts> I can't connect to the server on port 2812 and it doesn't show up when I run ps aux | grep monit
[04:26] <Flannel> tfitts: Then it's probably not running!
[04:26] <tfitts> the log also shows  error    : Cannot open for write -- Permission denied
[04:26] <tfitts> but I don't know what file it's trying to write.
[04:27] <Flannel> tfitts: So, I don't know anything about monit.  However, the README.Debian file should tell you (or "usually") what you need to do to set it up.  It may be that there's a config file that'll tell it to not start (until you edit that config file), and things like that.
[04:27] <Flannel> tfitts: That file is /usr/share/doc/monit/README.Debian
[04:40] <tfitts> yeah, I've setup the config file and read a few guides online, can't find anything about this file permission issue.
[04:40] <tfitts> merryganjas: it's possible but pretty unlikely
[04:41] <ssssarart> Hello
[04:41] <tfitts> I've done crawling from a single IP to where they kind of assume each request is from a bot.  Just make sure your crawling code looks for that.  If you have a large pool of IPs that's going to be a minimal issue.
[05:07] <baazigar> hello all
[05:08] <baazigar> koyii apnii language wala haii keya
[05:09] <bazhang> english here please baazigar
[05:23] <michael2> hi does anyone know to list all man page names that  match a pattern, e.g. all man pages with "apt" in the name?
[05:26] <Random832> man -k
[05:27] <Random832> it won't just match by name though, it also includes a one-line description - closest thing to what you want though
[05:27] <Random832> and you can always grep the output to refine it
[05:30] <michael2> Random832: I think thats just an alias for apropos - i think i found the option though --wildcard
[05:30] <farcol> hola
[05:31] <farcol> hola
[05:47] <KingParrot> Hello room
[05:47] <KingParrot> anyone here ever use Peppermint 8?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> KingParrot: we can only support ubuntu here mate
[06:03] <KingParrot> Does Ubuntu have Samba installed in it out of the box?
[06:04] <Codsworth> KingParrot I have itsetup on mine
[06:04] <Codsworth> but I can't remember if I installed it or if it came
[06:04] <KingParrot> ok
[06:15] <untoreh> hello, if I do `cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) | grep "^CONFIG_HZ.*=y"` I get CONFIG_HZ_250=y ; if I do `etconf CLK_TCK` I get 100 ??
[06:33] <Grange> michael2, I remember seeing one but can’t remember which
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> untoreh: what are you trying to do?
[06:55] <yvesA> bonjour
[06:55] <yvesA> bonjour
[06:55] <bazhang> yvesA, english here please
[06:55] <yvesA> OK sorry Hello
[06:56] <bazhang> yvesA, ubuntu support issue?
[06:57] <yvesA> my computer is an Acer aspire ES-1-C80R
[06:57] <yvesA> and i can't install ubuntu on because of a grub problem
[06:59] <yvesA> I used command line ubiquity -b to install without grub and install grub on sda EFI
[06:59] <yvesA> sda1 efi, sorry
[07:00] <yvesA> but when i reboot i've always same message " no bootable device"
[07:01] <EriC^> yvesA, is the bios set to boot in uefi mode?
[07:02] <yvesA> @eric yes there's no legacy mode on this bios
[07:02] <EriC^> yvesA, do you have a uefi list in the bios you can edit?
[07:03] <yvesA> do you have a commande line ?
[07:04] <Guest75252> CAN I INSTALL ANDROID EMULATOR ON UBUNTU 32 BIT
[07:04] <EriC^> yvesA, no it's the bios right after the pc boots
[07:05] <EriC^> yvesA, pressing ESC sometimes gets you there
[07:07] <yvesA> @ eric in the bios there's no possibility to edit anything about UEFI list but i'm running chat from recatux softwear
[07:07] <yvesA> me be i can find something interesting from this software
[07:10] <yvesA> there's a report here http://paste.debian.net/1009617/
[07:47] <untoreh> before I mean `getconf CLK_TCK` missed initial g
[07:47] <untoreh> I meant*
[07:47] <untoreh> and basically it shows 100 while the kernel config in boot part shows 250
[07:48] <untoreh> so which is which
[07:52] <untoreh> uh apparently linux always shows 100 or 10 so the only way to see the tickrate is through the config in the partition I guess
[07:52] <untoreh> so 250 is the right one
[07:53] <untoreh> or make a fortuitous guess between the interrupts
[08:18] <neurre> hi
[08:19] <neurre> i have trouble getting USB sdcard reader from Transcend to work: https://pastebin.com/8vuAvpCF
[08:19] <neurre> any suggestions?
[08:28] <CalicoFlows> I cannot play YouTube videos all of a sudden... they buffer, I can skip and see a differnt fram, but the video doesn't ever start playing... I am on 17.10
[08:47] <etyrnal> after upgrading my kids 3 machines to to ubuntu 17, last time i tried to use apt-get tp install something, i noticed that it looks like the system upgrades or some other process disabled ALL my sources...  how di i fund out which are the right ones and add them in?
[08:48] <tomreyn> etyrnal: hi. there is not "ubuntu 17", which version did you upgrade them to? "lsb_release -ds" on a terminal will tell.
[08:50] <tomreyn> etyrnal: apt or apt-get will never disable your apt sources. the do_release_upgrade script which runs when you upgrade from one ubuntu release to another will disable any non ubuntu apt sources, however.
[08:51] <etyrnal> tomreyn, right.  But they are all disabled, or the ones still in there it compains it cannot connect to.
[08:52] <etyrnal> "Welcome to Ubuntu 17.04 (GNU/Linux 4.10.0-43-generic x86_64)"
[08:52] <tomreyn> etyrnal: can you provide the exact error message? imgur.conm if you'll post a screenshot, paste.ubuntu.com if you'll paste text.
[08:52] <tomreyn> !17.04
[08:52] <tomreyn> !eol
[08:52] <etyrnal> E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty Release' does no longer have a Release file.
[08:52] <etyrnal> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[08:53] <etyrnal> tomreyn, sorry just saw your pastebin comment
[08:53] <tomreyn> right, it's EOL, so apt sources are gone
[08:53] <tomreyn> read what ubottu told you, too
[08:53] <tomreyn> especially the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades link
[08:54] <etyrnal> ubottu, tomreyn thanks.  i'll give it a try.
[08:54] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release were those computers running before you upgraded them? 16.10 ?
[08:56] <tomreyn> if so, this means they have been running outdated, unpatched software since july '17
[08:56] <tomreyn> if those computers were connecting to the internet, you'll better just reinstall them
[08:57] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:57] <Guest81027> Regarding software version freezing, who chooses what to freeze and what not to? Firefox is not frozen at a particular version, thank makes sens, the kernel is, that also makes sens. But for instance, why the hack would you freeze python?
[08:57] <tomreyn> etyrnal: ^ and maybe pick an LTS release going forward.
[08:59] <auronandace> dan01: everything is frozen. think of it like a snapshot. firefox is one of the few exceptions to the rule
[09:00] <tomreyn> dan01: many of the packages available in ubuntu, and much of the user space that ubuntu provides (roughly "the distribution") are based on python, and thus are written for (more or less) a specific python version.
[09:03] <baba_> Hello, all...I am having a problem with screen blanking on an external display...
[09:03] <etyrnal> tomreyn, 16.04
[09:04] <tomreyn> etyrnal: okay, 16.04 is an LTS release (which is still supported), had you waited a couple more months then you could have upgraded to 18.04 LTS instead.
[09:05] <etyrnal> tomreyn, can i move the 17.04 machines to 18.04 LTS  when it's available?
[09:05] <dan01> auronandace,tomreyn: Does mac or windows have this problem? I mean, I can simply get the latest version of python for windows without a problem, but windows doesn't preinstall python that's true.
[09:06] <tomreyn> etyrnal: what you can do now is to upgrade to 17.10, which is supported (until july this year) and then upgrade to 18.04 when it becomees available (in april this year)
[09:08] <tomreyn> etyrnal: to upgrade from 17.04 to 17.10, you'll need to manually edit your apt sources as discussed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list
[09:08] <auronandace> dan01: i wouldn't describe it as a problem, more of a design decision. if you want the latest of absolutely everything then maybe you should consider a rolling realease distribution such as arch
[09:08] <tomreyn> etyrnal: CODENAME is 'zesty' for 17.04
[09:09] <tomreyn> (without the single quotes)
[09:10] <etyrnal> tomreyn, already updating them all
[09:10] <tomreyn> i see
[09:11] <etyrnal> after this project i am going to torture myself with learning how to kludge Ubuntu onto a Banana Pi m3, and a Banana Pi M64
[09:11] <tomreyn> :) good luck!
[09:12] <etyrnal> tomreyn, from what i hear, i'll need it.  thanks.  I appreciate quick accurate help.
[09:13] <john_rambo> Hi, I am getting this error while updating >>> https://paste2.org/H2bMJdfG
[09:14] <tomreyn> etyrnal: that's what i heard, too, but i have no first hand experience with these. you're welcome.
[09:14] <tomreyn> (but i also heard it's possible)
[09:14] <tomreyn> !bionic | john_rambo
[09:15] <tomreyn> !support-#ubuntu+1
[09:16] <etyrnal> tomreyn, at first i wanted to offload plexmediaserver, and airsonic music server off my main machine, and onto a SBC, but that started to seem like a stretch, then i just kind of decided that by banging my head up against these things, i hope to force myself to learn more.  The specs on the bpi-m3 are great for what it is -- but i guess support is super weak.
[09:18] <tomreyn> etyrnal: probably. sorry to interrupt, but... we can continue this chat in #ubuntu-discuss if you like, this (#ubuntu) channel is just meant to be used for support really.
[09:19] <etyrnal> tomreyn, sorry.  unserstood.
[09:19] <tomreyn> that's fine ;-)
[09:21] <baba_> So, my display shuts off after a minute of inactivity...the backlight turns off, but when I press a key, sometimes the lcd panel is black
[09:25] <baba_> the problem is related to a cpu pipe a fifo underrun
[09:30] <tomreyn> baba_: not enough information, provide concrete error messages or command output, more context. based (only) on your description so far that's more likely a hardware issue, though.
[09:34] <baba_> there are no messages or output other than what I have found in dmesg that occurs simultaneously with the problem...the problem itself is that the external display shuts off normally after a minute, in keeping with the display settings...but when I press a key to revive it, about half the time the backlight switches on, but the lcd panel is black
[09:34] <tomreyn> baba_: actually, searching the web for "cpu pipe a fifo underrun" suggests that this can be an intel i915 graphics chip driver related error message.
[09:35] <tomreyn> which hardware do you have there, which ubuntu version do you run?
[09:36] <tomreyn> sudo dmidecode --type system
[09:37] <tomreyn> lsb_release -ds
[09:37] <tomreyn> ^ baba_ typing those in a terminal will provide the information i'm asking about
[09:40] <baba_> I am afraid that the dmidecode did not give any info on the video contoller...
[09:41] <tt_1> hey there, is this the channel to chat about the 18.04 alpha?
[09:42] <tomreyn> baba_: it would not, but it would provide information on your system / computer model. i'm assuming you're discussing a laptop, which should have its model # listed there.
[09:42] <tomreyn> !bionic | tt_1
[09:42] <baba_> I used lspci to get the line of output: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 35)
[09:43] <tt_1> ok, thx
[09:43] <tomreyn> baba_: if you use lspci with -nn you'll get output that provides the hardware ids, which is more useful.
[09:44] <tomreyn> baba_: and your ubuntu version is?
[09:45] <baba_> yes, the out put of lspci -nn is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:22b1] (rev 35)
[09:46] <baba_> the ubuntu version is 16.10
[09:46] <tomreyn> !16.10 | baba_
[09:47] <tomreyn> baba_: that's outdated by 2 releases by now.
[09:47] <baba_> all right...
[09:47] <tomreyn> and not just outdated but it hasn't received security patches since mid last year
[09:47] <tomreyn> you should not be using this release on the internet
[09:48] <baba_> all right...perhaps the problem is corrected in subsequent versions
[09:48] <tomreyn> that's well possible
[09:50] <tomreyn> baba_: the recommended action ot take with an end of life (eol) release is to backup your data and install a current release instead. there is a less favourable approach you could take, which is an !eolupgrade
[09:50] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | baba_
[09:52] <baba_> ok, thank you...I have resisted changing since I have many installed programs, customizations, and workarounds
[10:02] <tomreyn> baba_: while this may seem like a safe space, it is really not. sure, all your tools may seem to be working fine. but you lack security patches and your system could get compromised any time, with or, more likely, without you knowing. it really just *feels* safe, but you should try to take more adventures and go with supported releases, even if the tools you like may occasionally break or even get replaced by others. it's all about occasionally
[10:02] <tomreyn> adjusting to change.
[10:04] <XXCoder> I just found this https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1946
[10:05] <XXCoder> mint is based on ubuntu, may work?
[10:06] <tomreyn> !mint | XXCoder
[10:06] <XXCoder> tomreyn: I wasnt seeking help. I am already at mint channel.
[10:07] <XXCoder> it was to baba it could save time on making new install work like older version.
[10:11] <baba_> Thanks for the encouragement, tomreyn....I will have to update, I am sure, but I am using a modified kernel that makes it prohibitive to do so. I will have to put that kernel's functionality into a distro using the current 4.14/4.15 kernel.
[10:12] <baba_> thanks, I will read through the tutorial , xxcoder.
[10:12] <tomreyn> baba_: which modifications do you depend on?
[10:12] <XXCoder> I never use it either so read with grain of salt :)
[10:12] <XXCoder> I need to upgrade mine also. bleh.
[10:14] <tomreyn> a quick glace on that tutorial makes me think it's not suitable for system upgrades (it would restore apt sources for previous releases), and is also not careful to only restore information on users it should (bad regular expression used).
[10:16] <XXCoder> tomreyn: yeah? hmm thanks for review
[10:16] <baba_> I have a tv tuner that uses a driver in the modified kernel...kernels after around 4.11 support the tuner, but only in a limited way. I suppose the idea is to use the driver code to make a module that could then be used in a current distro, but that is a project unto itself.
[10:16] <XXCoder> not too sure what my plan is at this point.
[10:17] <tomreyn> baba_: you could go with ubuntu 16.04 LTS which is going tobe supported until april 2021
[10:18] <tomreyn> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[10:21] <tomreyn> baba_: 16.04 ("xenial") comes with a 4.4 kernel by default (you can choose newer ones if you would like to)
[10:22] <baba_> thanks...I was hoping to use more recent kernels since my computer is fairly new.....but somehow have the tuner drive as well.
[10:23] <tomreyn> baba_: sounds like your computer is fairly new excerpt for one part then. ;-)
[10:25] <baba_> well......the computer is about a year old...the tuner is external...and has been around for a while, but took quite some time for an linux support to be made available.
[10:27] <baba_> the tuner is a hauppauge wint tv dual hd 1595.....I don't recall when it was first release, but I got one in June...which, I think, was around the time that linux support started coming around...
[10:28] <tomreyn> baba_: can you show the lsusb line for it?
[10:28] <thinky> hi there
[10:28] <troozers> Morning roomies, n00b question; I have just set up an software raid mdadm device on Ubuntu 17.10, and all worked until reboot - looks like mdadm service is linked to /dev/null... anyone know why?
[10:28] <baba_> sure, I appreciate the help, but this is a bit of a can of worms...you have been warned...
[10:29] <thinky> i cant reboot ubuntu
[10:29] <thinky> when i try on terminal it returns with some error like this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/=3bkzPrWdgY/
[10:30] <troozers> Did you try "sudo reboot" thinky?
[10:30] <thinky> nope
[10:30] <troozers> without the quotes
[10:31] <thinky> normally reboot works
[10:31] <thinky> should work *
[10:31] <thinky> just "reboot"  i mean
[10:31] <thinky> why doesnt it work?
[10:31] <baba_> the vid/pid for the tuner is 2040:026d
[10:31] <troozers> lol would try it on mine, but talking on the box via here and trying to get my own question resolved :)
[10:33] <shahab> سلام
[10:34] <shahab> کسی این پیام رو می بینه؟
[10:34] <tomreyn> !farsi | shahab
[10:39] <tomreyn> baba_: so , the way i read https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-dualHD , support for your specific peice of hardware may be improving in newer kernels. have you tried a recent one?
[10:41] <baba_> yes, i tried ubuntu 17.10 and some other distros using 4.14....long story short....the tuner works out of the box, but only one of the two tuners is supported...
[10:42] <baba_> this was a complaint about the linux driver going back for a good while....there were statements...on the linuxtv site, I think...about only one tuner being supported...
[10:46] <tomreyn> baba_: the page i linked to points to a a github page of someone called 'brad' who wrote patches for current linux kernels which provide support for the second tuner, too. this link now returns a 404 ("not found"). but the github repository of the same person still exists: https://github.com/b-rad-NDi/Ubuntu-media-tree-kernel-builder - it discusses a PPA you could give a try: https://launchpad.net/~b-rad/+archive/ubuntu/kernel+mediatree+hauppauge
[10:49] <tomreyn> baba_: you should probably be using this with ubuntu xenial (16.04 LTS) or, better, artful (17.10).
[10:50] <baba_> Thanks so much for your effort, but I did all of that some time back...that is how I got the tuner to work right after I got it. "Brad" is Brad Love, the head of software engineering at Hauppauge...he provided the custom kernel that I have been using.
[10:53] <baba_> whoops....I haven't looked at in in a bit.....he put some new things on there
[10:54] <tomreyn> baba_: yes, there are recent updates. so i guess you could / should try 17.10 again, see if both tuners work, and go with this, then when bionic (18.04) is released, keep looking for patches for that, and try to enourage brad to provide patches of a quality that can go into mainline.
[10:55] <tomreyn> that's 17.10 with the ppa
[10:55] <tomreyn> and 18.04 probably, too, until the patches for the second tuner are mainlined, too
[11:02] <tomreyn> baba_: looks like brad posted several new related patches to the linux-media mailing list in january.
[11:06] <qwebirc34111> can anyone help me plase... in gnome-disk-utility i changed "identify as" for my main kde neon partition, and now i can't boot back to my system
[11:06] <qwebirc34111> i don't remember what was the value before my changes. i have dev/disk/ and following:  by-uuid, by-id (2 entries), by-path and UUID=
[11:06] <tomreyn> baba_: https://www.mail-archive.com/search?a=1&l=linux-media%40vger.kernel.org&haswords=Si2157&o=newest - looks like he's working hard on mainlining it. if he'll succeed you'll likely be able to use it on 18.04 with !HWE kernels.
[11:09] <tomreyn> qwebirc34111: looks like you successfully ignored that blue warning? https://i.stack.imgur.com/ilJdi.png
[11:10] <qwebirc34111> tomreyn it wasn't there!
[11:13] <tomreyn> qwebirc34111: maybe it was an older version. but generally be aware that editing things with a partitioning tool can result in this kind of breakage, as well as in data loss. you'll need to boot the system from an installation iso, ideally the same (k)ubuntu version you normally run. then the "blkid" comand can be used to list the uuids which can then be set in /etc/fstab. you'll need to chroot to the system and update-grub and grub-install, and
[11:13] <tomreyn> then, maybe your system will boot agasin.
[11:14] <tomreyn> or you'll backup your data and reinstall.
[11:14] <cfhowlett> THIS1
[11:16]  * tomreyn afk
[11:38] <qwebirc34111> tomreyn that's what i get: https://images2.imgbox.com/49/ff/w7ZjHxv6_o.png  i'm afraid im stuck at this point.
[11:40] <qwebirc34111> sdb1 is what i'm trying to boot into
[11:53] <baba_> ok......for tomreyn when he gets back: thanks for all your effort and insights...I had looked at much of this info, but not in a while, it all looked inactive last fall...but it seems things are back up and running again
[12:01] <bruno1988> olá
[12:39] <broftkd> i
[12:44] <treadhead> how do i install more fonts for use in the console? im not using x
[12:44] <treadhead> i know how to change them, i think, its just that i only have terminus and vga
[12:44] <treadhead> im pretty sure ive seen more in the past
[12:45] <treadhead> hello btw :)
[12:48] <troozers> Hi, I've just configured a software raid on my 17.10 box, but it fails to appear after i've rebooted.  I've checked the mdadm service and it's 'masked', how do I unmask this service?
[13:13] <imi> hi
[13:14] <imi> for some reason I can't see my local mails in kmail, can you help me solve this issue?
[13:16] <philip_> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  N3050  @ 1.60GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.7 GiB Total (1.1 GiB Free) Swap: 3.6 GiB Total (3.5 GiB Free) • Storage: 653.7 GB / 1.0 TB (375.7 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3x
[13:16] <philip_> xx Series SoC Transaction Register • Uptime: 12h 19m 49s
[13:43] <troozers> Does anyone know why the mdadm service is "masked" on Ubuntu 17.10?
[13:49] <adalbert> What service runs on 127.0.0.1:6010 and 127.0.0.1:6011 ??
[13:50] <tomreyn> adalbert: "sudo lsof -i :6010"
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:52] <tomreyn> troozers: leaving the channel just minutes after you ask doen't make it easier to respond to you.
[13:52] <lalitmee> hi guys
[13:52] <adalbert> tomreyn: thnx man, it shows it's sshd ...
[13:52] <tomreyn> adalbert: did you or someone else managing this computer configure this?
[13:53] <troozers> Does anyone if you need mdadm.service enabled to use software raid via mdadm?
[13:54] <tomreyn> troozers: i'm on 16.04, there i's active (running)
[13:54] <tomreyn> iT's
[13:54] <troozers> on 17.10 it's "masked"... which is not something i've come across before
[13:55] <adalbert> tomreyn: well i'm running a ssh tunnel from my ubuntu system to my windows system to connect to x11vnc secvure
[13:56] <tomreyn> troozers: is any mdadm process running, though?
[13:57] <tomreyn> adalbert: i see, well then it can be on purpose. it's not really a security issue anyways since it only binds to the loopback interface, allowing local connections only.#
[13:58] <tomreyn> troozers: and what does "cat /proc/mdstat" have to say?
[13:59] <adalbert> tomreyn: I'm also using Putty on my windows system with x11 forwarding , might be some closed putty connection zombies ...
[14:00] <tomreyn> i see
[14:01] <troozers> my "/proc/mdstat" doesn't seem to list any devices /dev/md0 seems to have disappeared since the reboot.  It was there before the reboot
[14:01] <troozers> It was a new RAID so may have to rebuild it
[14:01] <troozers> unless you know an mdadm command to refind the lost disk array
[14:02] <adalbert> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/vvhs6 , is all running ssh connections
[14:03] <tomreyn> adalbert: do you have a question?
[14:04] <tomreyn> troozers: is that raid your boot device?
[14:04] <tomreyn> *array
[14:04] <troozers> No, setting it up as a data volume
[14:04] <adalbert> tomreyn: no thanks, you answered my question.  I now know why they are there ... thanks
[14:04] <tomreyn> adalbert: ok, welcome.
[14:06] <tomreyn> troozers: you can use mdadm --assemble to start a previously configured mdadm array
[14:06] <tomreyn> "mdadm --assemble --help" for more information
[14:07] <tomreyn> this mode expects you to have the array configuration stored in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf  (typically towards the end of this file, lines starting with "ARRAY")
[14:09] <troozers> Yeah, have that; see here https://pastebin.com/KGEzd2Gs
[14:12] <tomreyn> well then you just need to assemble that
[14:12] <tomreyn> mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
[14:13] <tomreyn> if this succeeds, it should be started and show up in /proc/mdstat
[14:14] <troozers> unfortunately running that command comes back with no results, and mdstat remains as-is.  Will rebuild and see if I missed something stupid (which pretty much is always the case )
[14:21] <gopal> ioria: can youplz help me to check some log , i think my problem is fixed
[14:24] <gopal> apw: online ?
[14:41] <gopal> !ping
[14:43] <adalbert> LG man, Life is Good! :)
[14:51] <apw> gopal, ?
[14:51] <gopal> apw: i think my problem is solved after installing ubuntu 14.04 lts
[14:51] <gopal> apw: can you plz check my battery logs ?
[14:52] <gopal> apw: before shutdown https://paste.ubuntu.com/=5HZBQyg4gd/ after 6 hours  https://paste.ubuntu.com/=k6hyrhzbHD/   then system on for 3 minutes then after 8 hours https://paste.ubuntu.com/=YMVTQ65rFn/
[15:00] <gopal> apw: is it fixed?
[15:02] <apw> gopal, you should be able to tell the rate thebattery is emptying
[15:02] <apw> and comparing that to the two scenarios, good and bad
[15:02] <gopal> !ping
[15:02] <gopal> apw: thats in the log
[15:03] <apw> gopal, and yep, you can figure that out :)
[15:03] <apw> and if it is you can add hte version whic it works in and the version it does not work in, and that ought to let someone figure it out
[15:04] <gopal> apw: POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_now decreased by 1000 ? is it normal ?
[15:04] <gopal> apw: in 6 hours
[15:05] <apw> well you should compare that to the case when you know it was not good, it should be much higher
[15:05] <apw> if it is then this is fixed, if they are similar then not
[15:06] <gopal> apw: it decreased a lot
[15:07] <ubuntu> bajwa
[15:07] <ubuntu> nadeemsdk
[15:10] <apw> gopal, then you have a kernel version in which it works
[15:10] <apw> gopal, so ... record that and the version which does not in your bug, then we can ask someone to help you find the version which introduced the issue/removes the issue whichever way round it is
[15:10] <gopal_> apw: ubuntu 14.04 4.4.0-31-generic
[15:11] <gopal_> apw: but when i installed old kernel 4.10  or older my laptop became super laggy in 16.04
[15:12] <apw> 4.4 is an older kernle than 4.10 ?
[15:12] <navplayer> yes
[15:12] <apw> anyhow, record the two which work/don't work and someone can bisect between them
[15:13] <gopal_> apw: i think so , but now i installed 16.04
[15:13] <gopal_> apw: it can be ubuntu bug ?
[15:13] <apw> and it is ok on there ?
[15:13] <nerdinja> is there anything you guys recommend installing on a freshly formatted ubuntu server? thus far i have only OpenSSH, nginx, php, mariadb
[15:13] <gopal_> apw: i think so
[15:13] <nerdinja> npm?
[15:13] <apw> then you are sorted ?
[15:14] <gopal_> apw: yes
[15:14] <xqb> usually you install what you need you don't just install things for the sake of it
[15:14] <gopal_> apw: can it be fixed on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[15:14] <nerdinja> xqb: that's not what i'm trying to do, i meant more along the lines of things i will find myself needing/using that i may as well grab now
[15:15] <gopal_> !ping
[15:20] <apw> gopal_, if you put all the ones you tested and which are good and which are bad into the bug and remind us the bug number in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:20] <apw> we can see about finding the issue
[15:28] <gopal_> apw: which details i have to post?
[15:29] <kd8fhy> anyone know flrig?
[15:31] <oerheks> kd8fhy, it is known in our repos, https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/flrig .. maybe if you have a specific issue, join ##hamradio
[15:33] <kd8fhy> thank you I will...
[15:37] <gopal> apw: which details should i post?
[15:39] <s10gopal> !ping
[15:41] <kd8fhy>  Please register your nickname to speak. where do I do this?
[15:41] <s10gopal>   /msg NickServ identify <password>
[15:41] <oerheks> !registr
[15:41] <oerheks> !register
[15:43] <GazZy> Hello, I need some help with networking. Can't reach my http server from my public ip and im not sure where to start. (Can reach it on local ip and i know router is forwarded properly as it works on my other OS's)
[15:44] <compdoc> GazZy, you must have a firewall/router
[15:45] <compdoc> that connects to the internet
[15:45] <compdoc> oops
[15:46] <s10gopal> @TJ
[15:49] <GazZy> compdoc I have a router but its setup properly. not sure about firewall (linux noob)
[15:52] <compdoc> GazZy, yeah, I misread that
[15:52] <compdoc> youre saying other oses work but not ubuntu?
[15:53] <compdoc> or you have an http server running on ubuntu?
[15:54] <AdityaPatil> What are possible reasons that my Ubuntu aws server isn't accessible over IPv6, even though it has an IPv6 address and firewall is open?
[15:54] <GazZy> Works fine on windows and it worked fine on ubuntu on previous installs (year+ ago)
[15:55] <compdoc> what works?
[15:55] <GazZy> im just testing a simple node app now listening to publicip:80
[15:55] <GazZy> thought it was a docker issue at first
[16:04] <GazZy> compdoc So, I have an app listening to port 80 which works fine and is reachable from the internet on other os, but when I try it on ubuntu it doesen't connect. (same machine, same local ip)
[16:09] <lalitmee> hello guys
[16:10] <lalitmee> I want to install LXDE on ubuntu instead of unity. So I just wanna know that would it be right if I use apt-fast for installing LXDE or I should use iso package of LXDE
[16:11] <lalitmee> I mean lubuntu.
[16:11] <xangua> lalitmee: if you haven't installed Ubuntu yet, you can install lubuntu yes
[16:12] <nrg> if i was wanting to do a fresh install i'd probably go with lubuntu
[16:12] <xangua> lalitmee: sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop , if you already have Ubuntu installed
[16:14] <lalitmee> xangua: yeah I have installed ubuntu. Thats why I was asking that should I use apt or should I remove this ubuntu and then install lubuntu. I just wanna know that if it will increase my ubuntu speed or not?
[16:16] <xangua> It won't make it faster or slower, but you would have some duplicated apps (two file managers example) lalitmee
[16:17] <lalitmee> xangua: actually I have heard and read about LXDE that it is a light weight desktop. So i was thinking that may be it will increase speed.
[16:18] <lalitmee> xangua: actually currently my application take a lot of time to start.
[16:19] <xangua> I was referring to the fact of having 2 desktop installed, one won't make the other faster or slower than already is, but yes lxde is lighter and fast lalitmee
[16:20] <lalitmee> xangua: Yeah I understand your point. I was just confirming.
[16:20] <lalitmee> xangua: thanx
[16:26] <pavlos> GazZy: so, on your ubuntu system, http://localhost/ does show you the app but if you try this from the outside, it does not. And your router has port 80 fwd from the internal to the external ip.
[16:26] <Sangeet> what is the download size of ubuntu for windows 64 bits? if that window thing matters
[16:26] <GazZy> pavlos yes
[16:27] <pavlos> GazZy: which ubuntu? try, sudo ufw status Is a firewall running on your ubuntu?
[16:28] <skinux> Is there any way to name tabs in Terminal?
[16:28] <Sangeet> was gparted partition tool available in ubuntu 2-3 years back version/???
[16:29] <Sangeet> anyone???
[16:29] <GazZy> pavlos 17.04 and that says inactive
[16:30] <pavlos> GazZy: ok
[16:30] <ducasse> !info gparted trusty | Sangeet
[16:31] <Sangeet> ducasse: was it available in 2-3 years back UBUNTU version probably 14
[16:32] <s10gopal> !ping
[16:32] <pavlos> Sangeet: yes, it was on 14.04, I used it
[16:33] <ducasse> Sangeet: ubuntu 14.04 was trusty, so you can see the version above
[16:33] <ecormier> it was available a long time before that
[16:33] <s10gopal> battery stuck at 98% while charging
[16:33] <Sangeet> pavlos: thanks man,i have data partition problem in sd card which corrupted it so some one suggest me to use linux's gparted & i have only old version for now
[16:34] <s10gopal> akik: ?
[16:34] <Sangeet> ducasse: yup ,i heard the same when i was start using it & it was very good experience wish windows have that kind of UI & graphics
[16:34] <ecormier> s10gopal: try: upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
[16:34] <ecormier> that will tell you the max capacity
[16:35] <s10gopal> ecormier: failed to set path: cannot refresh: Cannot get device properties for /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0: Couldn't call GetAll() to get properties for /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[16:36] <ecormier> although it's stating mine below what it is at the moment
[16:36] <s10gopal> 98%
[16:37] <ecormier> right, so the battery has a max of 98%, all is fine
[16:37] <s10gopal> i am getting error
[16:37] <s10gopal> 98% in gui
[16:37] <pavlos> GazZy: do you try from the outside the ip or the name of your system? (eg. http://64.1.2.3/ or http://myubuntu/ ?
[16:38] <ecormier> s10gopal: try: cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity
[16:38] <s10gopal> ecormier: cat: /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity: No such file or directory
[16:38] <ecormier> s10gopal: so take a look at the path and see what the correct file is
[16:39] <ecormier> ls /sys/class/power_supply/
[16:39] <GazZy> pavlos ip (tried different ports aswell, 80, 422, 8080)
[16:40] <s10gopal> 100
[16:41] <ecormier> s10gopal: how new is the laptop?
[16:41] <pavlos> GazZy: your web server probalby works on 80 since inside ubuntu you can type http://localhost/
[16:41] <s10gopal> 1 year old
[16:41] <ecormier> brand?
[16:41] <pavlos> GazZy: do you run a proxy on your ubuntu?
[16:44] <ecormier> s10gopal: it could be a few things... first, maybe after a year the batt can only hold 98%, second maybe your bios is smart enough to randomly stop charging and let the battery slightly discharge of batt health
[16:44] <ecormier> of=for
[16:44] <pavlos> GazZy: earlier you mentioned docker. Are running the web server inside a docker container?
[16:46] <s10gopal> ecormier: 1 year old
[16:47] <s10gopal> i'm using ubuntu 14.04 lts , in ubuntu 16.04lts i am getting this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[16:47] <GazZy> pavlos Thats what i was working on at first. Thought it was a docker issue. But i made a very basic nodejs express server without docker and that doesnt work either.
[16:47] <ecormier> dejavu
[16:48] <ecormier> s10gopal: haven't you been warned in the past 24 hours about asking that question here
[16:48] <s10gopal> ecormier: that was about ubuntu 16.04
[16:48] <pavlos> GazZy: I dont know nodejs ... maybe someone else can help ...
[16:48] <s10gopal> ecormier: and the problem is fixed ,
[16:48] <ecormier> still, it's the same bug
[16:48] <fordunklad> im trying to setup nextcloud, but am having trouble with maria. the way mysql_secure_installation is screwed up. root cannot login without sudo, and it can't be dropped or altered because errors. how to fix root account so sudo is not required? amazon instance itm
[16:49] <s10gopal> ecormier: this one is different , gui is showing wrong battery %
[16:49] <ecormier> I can't help, sorry
[16:49] <pavlos> GazZy: does this help https://serverfault.com/questions/271824/node-js-is-not-accessible-from-external-ips-on-ubuntu
[16:51] <GazZy> pavlos pavlos its not a node issue. thats just what i tried for the most basic test
[16:51] <GazZy> If i run the barebones Nginx docker image and bind that to --network host it's not reachable through public ip either
[17:02] <stegbth> hi i right now installed Ubuntu 18.04 beta on my second ssd, i selected "do anything other" on the installer to install to the second disk, but there i was unable to encrypt the complete installation
[17:02] <stegbth> did i miss something or is it not possible ?
[17:03] <tomreyn> !+1
[17:03] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[17:03] <pavlos> GazZy: docker port [container-id] should list the port, eg 80/tcp -> 0.0.0.0:9000
[17:06] <EriC^^> stegbth: that's standard on ubuntu installs, you'd have to manually set up the encryption and everything or leave just the ssd installed and choose to use encryption + lvm in the first menu
[17:09] <GazZy> pavlos if i run the image without --network flag (on bridge network) its '80/tcp -> 0.0.0.0:80' but if I run it on host network its emtpy
[17:10] <fordunklad> how do I delete the mysql user database? it's not in /var/lib/mysql apparently
[17:12] <ser84> heey
[17:14] <ser84> I jus installed 16.04 lts and I believe my WiFi card is working however network manager is not install so I'm trying to connect through console with
[17:16] <ser84> sudo icon fig wlps0b1 essid name key password but I get invalid argument for the password
[17:16] <ser84> iwconfig
[17:18] <tomreyn> ser84: which type of wireless encryption does your network use?
[17:22] <ser84> tomreyn was I believe
[17:22] <ser84> wap
[17:22] <tomreyn> ser84: i'm aware of wep and wpa2
[17:22] <ser84> wpa2 sorry
[17:23] <tomreyn> ser84: that'd require wpa_supplicant. do you have the "wpasupplicant" package installed?
[17:24] <tomreyn> "dpkg -l wpasupplicant" -> does the last line start with ii ?
[17:26] <ser84> tomreyn yes wpasupplicant 2.4
[17:26] <dx486> what is the default desktop environment of ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS ? gnome or unity?
[17:26] <geirha> unity
[17:26] <tomreyn> dx486: unity
[17:27] <dx486> thanks
[17:28] <tomreyn> ser84: okay, then you might work it out (but i need to go now and can't personally guide you). in fact your easiest option is actually to just temporarily attach a network cable (if you can) and install whatever is needed - or to reinstall with you wireless device running by the time you start the installaer.
[17:29] <ser84> tomreyn ok thanks for your help
[17:39] <thejester> i migrated virtualbox vm to esxi, and had to re-configure the nic settings... i edited the /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml so it looks like https://pastebin.com/QCaMLkki, i do apply, and it gives error line 5, unknown key name
[17:39] <thejester> if i do ls /sys/class/net there is a ens160
[17:43] <pinPoint> does latest 16.04 support TRIM on all ssds?
[17:47] <xangua> It should pinPoint
[17:48] <xangua> https://askubuntu.com/q/18903/9868
[17:48] <TyrfingMjolnir> What is the best hardware for running ubuntu touch?
[17:49] <ducasse> TyrfingMjolnir: try asking in #ubports
[17:49] <pinPoint> xangua: all supported... i've got a crucial. So that is a no?
[17:53] <streaky> trim on modern ssds is of debateable worth btw
[17:54] <s10gopal> any gui ssd manager available ?
[17:54] <i486> s10gopal like a partition manager?
[17:55] <s10gopal> no
[17:55] <i486> ok
[17:55] <s10gopal> which can trim , show ssd health
[17:56] <pinPoint> streaky: so you're saying its not necessary? How much write/read can you get from an ssd without trim before failure?
[17:59] <streaky> well it won't fail without trim.. plus trim is more writes anyway
[18:00] <streaky> on old ssds they used to slow down quite a lot without, but it's much less of a thing these days, barely measurable if the ssd is even half decent and reasonably new like made in the last ~5 years
[18:00] <pinPoint> streaky: hmmm.. I wasn't sure.
[18:00] <streaky> in fact arguably trim is more writes so..
[18:00] <pinPoint> streaky: its an mx500 3D just received last night.
[18:01] <s10gopal> anything similar to http://www.adata.com/us/ss/software-6/ available on ubuntu ?
[18:02] <streaky> crucial ssds trim themselves anyway i think
[18:04] <streaky> if there's no idle time and you're worried about it then enable it, but if it's like a desktop or laptop i wouldn't worry about it, it'll trim itself
[18:05] <s10gopal> streaky: what about adata  Premier SP580 ?
[18:06] <streaky> not sure, might be worth doing on that
[18:07] <s10gopal> how?
[18:07] <streaky> tbh if it's me i'd write benchmark it and see if it degrades over time to something you care about and if it does then enable it
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[18:07] <streaky> works
[18:09] <frostschutz> pinPoint, my thoughts on trim https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/218083/30851
[18:10] <Outy> hi @ll
[18:14] <s10gopal> is auto trim available on adata ssd?
[18:15] <Outy> s10gopal: i defined it in my fstab
[18:16] <s10gopal> how?
[18:16] <s10gopal> u are also using adata ssd?
[18:18] <Outy> s10gopal: no im on sandisk z410s but as i know trim is always supported by SSDs. Question is if your SATA controller supports TRIM
[18:18] <Outy> s10gopal: fstab line for my SSD: UUID=*** /  ext4  errors=remount-ro,noatime,nodiratime,discard  0  1
[18:19] <frostschutz> s10gopal, there is no such thing as auto trim. it's always done by the OS or through whatever programs you use, fstrim being the most common solution in linux, discard option the more aggressive approach
[18:19] <Outy> s10gopal: discard = autotrim but ubuntu and derivates will autotrim every week through a pre defined cron job
[18:20] <s10gopal>  they auto trim adata ssd too ?
[18:20] <redlegion> anyone know how i can disable wifi power management on 17.10?
[18:20] <pinPoint> assuming you have ubuntu 14.x or higher... on mine 14.04 it was not there.
[18:21] <frostschutz> old ubuntu did it only for a select few known ssd models
[18:21] <redlegion> wifi.powersave = 2 isn't working
[18:21] <oerheks> !trim
[18:21] <s10gopal> i'm using ubuntu 14.04 lts , it is supported ?
[18:22] <Outy> s10gopal: as frostschutz said fstrim is called by a pre defined cron job once a week
[18:22] <Outy> but you can safely use discard in fstab. im using it this way since 3 years. no problems
[18:24] <Outy> redlegion: i use TLP for powere management. you can configue. after install you can configure it in config files /etc/default/tlp
[18:25] <m2_> mark
[18:25] <pinPoint> Outy: you got a read up on discard for fstab online somewhere?
[18:26] <Outy> pinPoint: one moment please i'll have a look
[18:27] <Outy> pinPoint: Alternatively, and often not recommended: Set "discard" mount option in /etc/fstab for the ext4 filesystem, swap partition, Btrfs, etc. See mount(8).
[18:27] <Outy> pinPoint: source: https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
[18:27] <Outy> as i said. running it this way for 3 years now
[18:28] <Outy> no probs
[18:28] <Outy> my ssd wear lvl still 100%
[18:28] <s10gopal> Outy: how you check wear lvl?
[18:29] <Outy> pinPoint: smartmontools
[18:29] <kostkon> !info smartmontools
[18:30] <s10gopal> support ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[18:31] <Outy> pinPoint: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[18:31] <Outy> pinPoint: 233 Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       857
[18:32] <redlegion> Outy: ironically, i was editing that file and detached from IRC when you sent that
[18:32] <redlegion> Outy: thanks though, that did the trick
[18:32] <Outy> pinPoint: or if you have tlp installed: sudo tlp-stat -d
[18:32] <s10gopal> laptopmode tools vs tpl , which is better for laptop?
[18:33] <Outy> redlegion: no prob glad to help
[18:33] <junka> s10gopal; tlp
[18:34] <Outy> tlp is awesome so many ways to configure power options
[18:34] <s10gopal> can i use tpl with powertop?
[18:34] <junka> well no, they will conflict
[18:35] <Outy> powertop is a nice tool too. you can monitor power consumtion and have options to write statistics to a file
[18:35] <junka> use one or the other
[18:35] <za1b1tsu> how can you force a collor pallete on an application? Like on unixporn
[18:35] <Outy> powertop is just for monitoring
[18:35] <Outy> tlp & powertop dont bite each oher
[18:36] <junka> yes or it can help you write udev rules if you like
[18:36] <pinPoint> Thanks Outy frostschutz streaky -- let me finish this push from 14.04 to 16.04.3 first... took notes down.
[18:37] <Outy> pinPoint: no prob
[18:38] <s10gopal> !tpl
[18:38] <yosefrow_> !tpl
[18:38] <junka> !tpl
[18:38] <s10gopal> !tlp
[18:38] <yosefrow_> !abc
[18:38] <yosefrow_> !cloud
[18:39] <s10gopal> how to configure tlp ?
[18:39] <junka> edit the following file /etc/default/tlp
[18:39] <yosefrow_> !http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html
[18:39] <junka> but the defaults are good too
[18:40] <s10gopal> how to install tpl via command line ?
[18:40] <s10gopal> tlp
[18:40] <junka> sudo apt install tlp
[18:40] <Outy> !info tlp
[18:41] <Outy> s10gopal: to edit its config file use: sudo nano /etc/default/tlp
[18:42] <Outy> s10gopal: to restart tlp after you changed the config file you can use: sudo service tlp restart
[18:42] <za1b1tsu> how do people on unixporn do it? Is there a way to force color on applications? Or do they use themes for each applications?
[18:42] <junka> or gedit if you prefer a graphical way
[18:42] <s10gopal> thx
[18:43] <Outy> za1b1tsu: what colors? in terminal ?
[18:43] <junka> za1b1tsu; give us an example
[18:45] <za1b1tsu> https://i.imgur.com/dz09IRD.png
[18:45] <s10gopal> Outy: cmd to install tlp?
[18:45] <Outy> s10gopal: to check if tlp service is running do: systemctl status tlp
[18:45] <Outy> s10gopal: sudo apt-get install tlp
[18:45] <za1b1tsu> the browser, file explorer etc, is that an universal setting or the applications are individually themed?
[18:46] <s10gopal> E: Unable to locate package tlp
[18:46] <Outy> s10gopal: if its not there you have to add repository with: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linrunner/tlp
[18:46] <Outy> s10gopal: then do: sudo apt-get update
[18:46] <Outy> s10gopal: then try again: sudo apt-get install tlp
[18:46] <junka> za1b1tsu; yes if you look closer at the terminal you will se that he is using the numix theme
[18:46] <s10gopal> i did on ubuntu 16.04 , but then i was unable to use software update
[18:47] <s10gopal> it was giving un auth. rep added like that
[18:47] <za1b1tsu> junka, yes on what? they customize each application individually?
[18:49] <Outy> s10gopal: is it working or any probs?
[18:49] <junka> za1b1tsu; no all applications get a solarized theme because a gtk theme called NumixSolarized
[18:49] <junka> is used
[18:49] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: they're set with gtk themes, plus terminal color scheme for cli applications. some cli programs also require individual settings
[18:49] <junka> !info *numix*
[18:49] <ecormier> anyone here happen to know how I can set the up arrow key in gnome-shell overview to go through history (like in bash)?
[18:49] <junka> !info gtk-numic-theme
[18:50] <yosefrow_> !info cowsay
[18:51] <junka> za1b1tsu; https://github.com/numixproject/numix-gtk-theme
[18:51] <s10gopal_> how to fix it ? gpgkeys: key 2042F03C5FABD0BA2CED40412B3F92F902D65EFF can't be retrievedgpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[18:51] <marcledilson> helo!!!
[18:52] <junka> there are lots of guides on the net too
[18:52] <Outy> s10gopal_: sorry never had this kind of error message when adding a repository
[18:53] <yosefrow_> s10gopal_, are you adding a local/custom repository ?
[18:53] <s10gopal> no
[18:53] <s10gopal> just tpl
[18:53] <s10gopal> tlp*
[18:54] <yosefrow_> how did you add tlp repo?
[18:54] <s10gopal> gopal@gopal-HP-Notebook:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linrunner/tlp
[18:54] <Outy> yosefrow_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linrunner/tlp
[18:55] <Outy> press enter when it ask to add the key
[18:55] <Fulgen> Is there a way to reinstall Ubuntu while keeping the /home partition?
[18:55] <s10gopal> did
[18:55] <yosefrow_> s10gopal, try again
[18:55] <yosefrow_> from the ppa page "Your system will now fetch the PPA's key. This enables your Ubuntu system to verify that the packages in the PPA have not been interfered with since they were built."
[18:56] <yosefrow_> it should add the key automatically
[18:56] <s10gopal> done
[18:56] <s10gopal> thx
[18:56] <yosefrow_> no problem
[18:56] <junka> Fulgen; did you install /home on a different partition?
[18:56] <junka> if yes, then yes. if no, then back it up and reinstall
[18:57] <Fulgen> yes
[18:57] <Outy> s10gopal: if problem with key persits read this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2196704
[18:58] <junka> ok then when you will be prompt to select disk, go manually, select and format / /boot or any other but not /home and you are good to go
[18:58] <Fulgen> okay, thank you!
[18:58] <junka> pls do a back up if you can
[18:58] <junka> just in case
[18:58] <s10gopal> thx
[18:59] <s10gopal> any goof irc app for ubuntu?
[18:59] <s10gopal> good
[18:59] <junka> HexChat, Weechat
[19:00] <junka> GUI and terminal based, take your pick
[19:00] <Outy> i use the free veeam for linux for backup. you can pull a full image backup with running system, and its small compressed and fast. for my system about 40gb it took about 5min over a gbit line to a nas
[19:00] <junka> Polari if you are a gnome fun
[19:05] <eddytv> Anybody know what's up with https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.29/+build/13272937
[19:05] <eddytv> Looks like it's been broken since 2017-08-20...
[19:05] <eddytv> Trying to upgrade to 0.29 on trusty and I think this dependency is causing an issue
[19:06] <yosefrow_> s10gopal,  +1 for hexchat
[19:07] <za1b1tsu> https://imgur.com/a/Hwcw6 so the hexchat looks like this because of gtk theme?
[19:07] <s10gopal> how to set password perm. in hex chat?
[19:08] <gopal> ?
[19:08] <gopal> i'm still online
[19:09] <MzrE> ~ /msg NickServ REGISTER <pass> <email>
[19:09] <gopal> then i dont have to enter it every time ?
[19:09] <MzrE> oh
[19:09] <Mathisen> gopal, ?
[19:10] <junka> edit the server
[19:10] <gopal> yes
[19:10] <gopal> Mathisen, ?
[19:13] <yosefrow_> gopal, HexChat > Network List > https://i.imgur.com/bAHqDRP.png
[19:13] <Outy> my xubuntu desktop: http://i.imgur.com/ukOLkDO.png    if anybody wants to know ;o)
[19:14] <yosefrow_> Outy, gonna try using weechat on my android
[19:14] <za1b1tsu> Outy very nice
[19:14] <yosefrow_> looks cool
[19:14] <ecormier> a bit tiny...
[19:14] <Outy> yosefrow_: is it avail for android?
[19:14] <za1b1tsu> yesfrow_ heard irc clients on android drain the battery heavy
[19:15] <Outy> ecormier: yes my res is 1280x800 on a ThinkPad X201
[19:15] <yosefrow_> Outy, za1b1tsu I use Termux (android terminal)
[19:15] <yosefrow_> it had apt in it
[19:15] <ecormier> Outy: I was talking window size
[19:15] <yosefrow_> doesnt have every package but many of them it does
[19:15] <Outy> yosefrow_: sounds nice
[19:15] <yosefrow_> yeah its fun
[19:15] <Outy> yosefrow_: i dont like smartphones ^^
[19:15] <ecormier> I'm running irssi on a raspberrypi server and I connect via ssh/tmux
[19:16] <yosefrow_> and earns me geek points when i whip out my phone and start hacking a terminal on the bus
[19:16] <ecormier> I never miss a message
[19:16] <Outy> ecormier: yes i resized it for the screenshot... it fullscreen now ;o)
[19:17] <yosefrow_> Outy, there is also an api plugin package, so I can grep my SMS messages and ssh into my phone and freak people out by using text to speach remotely
[19:17] <Outy> yosefrow_: you're a geek ^^
[19:17] <yosefrow_> :D
[19:17] <yosefrow_> trueblood
[19:18] <yosefrow_> Outy, though ive nver hacked the linux kernel. and that makes me sad. So technically not that big of a geek.
[19:19] <Outy> anybody can predict when the time is there to dump windows on my gaming pc? i just wait that vulkan api will get popular. then i'll crush WinDumb
[19:19] <yosefrow_> Outy, steam on linux was good enough for me
[19:20] <za1b1tsu> is $home and ~ the same thing?
[19:20] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, $home won't return anything on my system. However $HOME does and it is the same as ~
[19:20] <junka> ^
[19:20] <Outy> yosefrow_: i installed gentoo once with a printed out installation manual. it included to configure and compile everything by hand
[19:21] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, run this:  diff <(echo ~) <(echo $HOME)
[19:21] <Outy> yosefrow_: startet with the gentoo minimal install cd. just terminal. no live install cd
[19:21] <gopal> i'm login ?
[19:21] <yosefrow_> if it returns nothing they are the same
[19:21] <ecormier> I've got gentoo here on 5 machines :).... the guide online is much nicer, then it's mostly copy/paste
[19:22] <junka> ecormier; how many hours until you build everything you needed
[19:22] <ecormier> and I always use an ubuntu livecd to install gentoo... way easier with a webbrowser
[19:22] <Outy> ecormier: i wanted it to type in. it stays better in brain
[19:22] <ecormier> Outy: not really
[19:22] <yosefrow_> Outy, I'm still not hardcore (or crazy) enough for gentoo
[19:22] <za1b1tsu> yosefrow_, prints nothing
[19:22] <ecormier> junka: depends on what the machine needs... usually a day
[19:22] <yosefrow_> Outy, I'm planning to take the middle ground and run Arch pretty soon
[19:22] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, then they output the same
[19:23] <hggdh> can we please stay on-topic?
[19:23] <Outy> junka: it took me a weekend.
[19:23] <za1b1tsu> yosefrow_, nice, is this shell scripting?
[19:23]  * ecormier nods to hggdh :)
[19:23] <junka> is there much of a performance speed compared to binary packages?
[19:24] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, the command i sent you is a shell command called diff. it takes advantage of shell features such as virtual files (i think they are called that) <(echo something)
[19:25] <za1b1tsu> really cool
[19:25] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, normally diff uses files as input `diff file1 file2`, so i faked the files buy putting a command that outputs text in <( )
[19:25] <za1b1tsu> and regarding files it checks the name diff or contents/sizes?
[19:25] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, yeah you can do some pretty awesome stuff at the shell
[19:26] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, in this case, file contents
[19:26] <Outy> junka: didn't compare back then, but you pass options to compiler like --o3 or --4 . then the compiler optimizes the generated bin
[19:26] <yosefrow_> za1b1tsu, you can feed diff the -y option to see it side by side
[19:26] <yosefrow_> try the command i showed you earlier except use diff -y instead of diff
[19:27] <yosefrow_> btw to all the people chatting earlier about geek stuff, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you havent already. its fun there
[19:27] <Outy> yosefrow_: i used the "shell" a lot back in dos 6.x times ^^
[19:27] <yosefrow_> haha :D
[19:28] <Outy> hggdh: we are sorry
[19:28] <hggdh> Outy: no problem :-)
[19:28] <Duckle> Hey there, is 17.10 a replacement for ubuntu-gnome?
[19:29] <yosefrow_> Outy, its no problem, just take the geek chat to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[19:29] <Outy> yosefrow_: but i like it here =)
[19:29] <gopal> !whois gopal
[19:29] <junka> Duckle; yes, GNOME becomes the default DE
[19:30] <hggdh> gopal: use /whois not !whois
[19:30] <Duckle> junka: Thanks
[19:30] <Outy> junka: before it was unity right ?
[19:30] <umit> :)
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <yosefrow_> Outy, yes, but this chat is for support chat only, its technically  against the guidelines to geek out here :P plus most ppl here who are fun are in #ubuntu-offtopic too
[19:30] <xubuntu>  
[19:30] <ecormier> Duckle: it's not vanilla gnome though
[19:30] <umit> Türk var mı aranızda beyler?
[19:30] <Outy> yosefrow_: ahh i see
[19:30] <Duckle> ecormier: I don't think ubuntu-gnome was either
[19:30] <ecormier> Duckle: but it is easy to get vanilla gnome
[19:31] <Duckle> ecormier: I'm formatting my laptop. I have quite a few broken things by now. Most importantly, for some reason software center won't launch
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Duckle> been using apt for years on the CLI
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Duckle> !op
[19:31] <Guest85620>  
[19:31] <Duckle> sorry if he stopped, but we had one spamming
[19:32] <Outy> I hated Unity a lot. So first time I wanted to use Ubuntu, I went with Xubuntu - and I love it
[19:32] <Duckle> nvm he left
[19:34] <yosefrow_> why did drone quite an entier ipv6 subnet before
[19:34] <hggdh> it quieted the spammer, using the full IPv6
[19:34] <Olanzapin> hello everyone. I'm running ubuntu 16.04 LTS and my question is HOW do you get settings for encryption and ext to show up in unity-desktop?
[19:35] <yosefrow_> hggdh, yeah i saw later it did that. Im wondering why it started with the subnet
[19:35] <Olanzapin> using transmission :)
[19:36] <junka> Olanzapin; try preferences?
[19:36] <Olanzapin> how idont have pref
[19:37] <Outy> Olanzapin: Preferences -> Privacy -> set Require Encryption
[19:37] <Olanzapin> iknow that if i'm using sudo transmission-gtk the setting will be avalible
[19:37] <Olanzapin> i dont wanna use sudo
[19:37] <Outy> i see
[19:38] <Olanzapin> it's only in unity-desktop the problem exists
[19:38] <junka> Olanzapin; you can do it using a browser iirc
[19:38] <Olanzapin> no i wanna use gui
[19:40] <pinPoint> hey grub-pc is asking where to install. I have /dev/sda and /sda1 as options to check.
[19:40] <junka> well File, View, WHatver, Help are usually on the top bar
[19:40] <junka> in Unity
[19:40] <ecormier> pinPoint: you probably want sda
[19:40] <junka> just move your mouse up there and they will show up
[19:41] <junka> /dev/sda
[19:41] <akik> pinPoint: if on efi, use the efi system partition
[19:41] <Olanzapin> ahh ok thx
[19:41] <pinPoint> old box, no efi here.
[19:41] <Tex_Nick> Olanzapin: won't the gui disk utility (Disks) show you that info ?
[19:41] <Outy> ... Olanzapin: maybe just edit the config files for transmission and call it without sudo
[19:41] <Olanzapin> works thx everyone
[19:41] <Outy> Olanzapin: https://github.com/transmission/transmission/wiki/Editing-Configuration-Files
[19:42] <harussspiii>  https://github.com/transmission/transmission/wiki/Editing-Configuration-Files
[19:42] <Tex_Nick> OH your talking about transmission, Sorry for not paying attention'
[19:44] <Olanzapin> hehe
[19:44] <Outy> #ubuntu-offtopic: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services ???
[19:44] <Olanzapin> why even bothering
[19:44] <junka> Outy; registered nicknames only
[19:44] <junka> and also identified
[19:44] <Outy> junka: identd port 113 ?
[19:45] <junka> no /msg nickserv help
[19:45] <junka> no /msg nickserv register help
[19:46] <Outy> junka: thx will register then
[19:46] <junka> no /msg nickserv help register
[19:46] <junka> thats the one
[19:46] <s10gopal> i'm loged in or not ?
[19:46] <s10gopal> i'm loged in or not ? plz tell me
[19:46] <junka> you are
[19:46] <s10gopal> and password is verified?
[19:46] <junka> yes
[19:49] <yosefrow_> Outy, did you manage to register?
[19:50] <Outy> yosefrow_: now veryfied =) do i have to type in password later when i revisit the irc server ?
[19:50] <junka> yes
[19:51] <junka> unless you configure your client to identify for you
[19:51] <Outy> junka: does it ask me or do i have to give options in /join command
[19:52] <junka> well the command is /msg nickserv identify *PASSWORD*
[19:52] <junka> also you may now enter #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:52] <aleksander> anyone here using oss instead of alsa?
[19:52] <Outy> junka: very well i'll try
[19:53] <yosefrow_> Outy HexChat > Network List > https://i.imgur.com/bAHqDRP.png
[19:55] <Outy> yosefrow_: i'm staying with weechat. i'm getting quite comfortable with it
[19:55] <Outy> yosefrow_: i like typing.. will get me faster
[19:56] <yosefrow_> kk
[19:56] <yosefrow_> Outy, check weechat options for saving passwords then
[19:56] <Outy> yosefrow_: i will
[19:59] <Draconiator> Hello, new Xubuntu user here, used to use Lubuntu but an update caused the video mode to flip out on me, so had to switch over.  actually put this on my netbook so it can actually be useful again.
[20:00] <Outy> Draconiator: Hello and welcome. I'm on xubuntu too
[20:00] <Outy> Draconiator: there is also a #xubuntu channel here
[20:00] <yosefrow_> Outy, How do i get connected with weechat
[20:00] <yosefrow_> i added the server with server add
[20:01] <Outy> yosefrow_: /connect *server*
[20:01] <Draconiator> my desktop is powerful enough to run Win10 so I use that on there, but this came with WinXP on it and was sooooooooooo bloated...
[20:02] <yosefrow_> Outy, it says connect is currently disabled
[20:02] <Outy> yosefrow_: you gave ther server a name with /server add freenode chat.freenode.net   now you just do: /connect freenode
[20:03] <Outy> yosefrow_: jeah i ran into this too:  syntax is /server add *choosewhatevername* *serveradress*
[20:04] <Outy> yosefrow_: then /connect *choosewhatevername*
[20:04] <yosefrow_> Outy, done that, buth how do i connect to it then? i didnt give it a name
[20:04] <yosefrow_> i can try to add it again but give it a name this time
[20:05] <Outy> yosefrow_: then do it right - because /server add did not save when the syntax was wrong
[20:06] <Outy> yosefrow_: so you still have no configured server if you did it wrong
[20:06] <yosefrow_m> cool
[20:07] <yosefrow_> now i just have to figure out how to minimize these panels
[20:07] <Outy> jep
[20:07] <Outy> =)
[20:08] <Outy> yosefrow_: navigate chat windows with f5 f6
[20:08] <Outy> yosefrow_: or alt*
[20:08] <Outy> +
[20:08] <Outy> sorry
[20:08] <Outy> alt+<-- or alt+-->
[20:08] <yosefrow_> just want to minimize the the panels
[20:08] <yosefrow_> ok
[20:09] <yosefrow_> i will just google how to hide the user list in weechat
[20:09] <Outy> yosefrow_: i dont know much more either
[20:10] <Outy> yosefrow_: have to read more weechat manual later =9
[20:11] <Outy> I wonder if I can talk to Drone
[20:11] <Outy> Drone: Hello there you nice IRCbot
[20:12] <Outy> ok it was worth a try
[20:12] <yosefrow_> Outy, its possible Drone is a tool for ops
[20:12] <yosefrow_> the op tells drone what to do
[20:13] <yosefrow_> or its a bot with automatic spam prevention features or something? or both?
[20:13] <Outy> yosefrow_: jeah i know, but i know channels where the bots can raply funny thing if you talk to them ^^
[20:13] <yosefrow_> :D
[20:13] <yosefrow_> !info weechat
[20:13] <Outy> yosefrow_: but this is official channel and it should stay tidy in here
[20:13] <yosefrow_> yeah
[20:14] <yosefrow_> thats probably why there are no fun bots here, just informative one like ubottu
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Outy: Looks like the file you were looking for yesterday was probably ~/.config/mimeapps.list .
[20:14] <yosefrow_> though ubottu has a fun mode in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:14] <yosefrow_> ubottu responds differently there to the same words
[20:14] <yosefrow_> lol
[20:14] <Outy> Jordan_U: yes, I wrote that later in channel but you were gone earlier
[20:15] <yosefrow_> we know you aren not intelligent ubottu, don't worry
[20:15] <Outy> Jordan_U: thanks for researching
[20:17] <Outy> Jordan_U: yesterday I purged Parole Media Player (didn't use it anyway) and the file association was gone ;o)
[20:19] <ilfpott> hi
[20:20] <ilfpott> which is the free grammar checking software at detail ?
[20:20] <ilfpott> that uses AI ,etc
[20:20] <ilfpott> not grammarly , it's advanced features is not free
[20:20] <ilfpott> can libreoffice too do those advanced english checking?
[20:20] <Jordan_U> Outy: Still an interesting question though. Seems less documented (or the documentation is harder to find) than I would have expected. Interesting that your system-wide default was different than mine, I guess because we have (or had) different apps installed (totem vs parole).
[20:20] <ilfpott> like grammar,punctuation and other advanced issues?
[20:20] <ilfpott> can it ?
[20:22] <Outy> Jordan_U: Yes it should be more comfortable. Mime Type Editor could require a buttom with "Remove or Reset File Association"
[20:23] <ecormier> Outy: reset file association is here: right click the file, select properties, choose 'open with' tab
[20:24] <Outy> ilfpott: http://i.imgur.com/soN7x8i.png
[20:24] <Chaddeus_Maximus> hmm
[20:25] <Jordan_U> ecormier: Outy wants (or wanted, their problem is solved now through other means) "always ask me what app to open this file type in when I double click it".
[20:25] <ecormier> ahh
[20:25] <Chaddeus_Maximus> hmm
[20:26] <ilfpott> Outy: can it catch the outputted word is wrong error ?
[20:26] <Chaddeus_Maximus> can anybody hear me
[20:26] <ecormier> Chaddeus_Maximus: yes
[20:27] <Chaddeus_Maximus> thanks
[20:27] <ecormier> hmmm is not going to get a response
[20:27] <Chaddeus_Maximus> i see
[20:27] <Outy> ecormier: in xubuntu the mime type editor lets you choose & change how to open a file type - but not to unset/delete/remove an association with a file type
[20:29] <dakine> hi all whats up
[20:29] <Outy> ecormier: like you double click a file type *.new that has never been associated to a program. it will ask you with what program to open the filetype.
[20:29] <ecormier> Outy: I have hand edited the files, but never played with a gui
[20:29] <Fishbulb> happy weekend all
[20:29] <Chaddeus_Maximus> doin good
[20:29] <ilfpott> Outy: spell check doesn't detect basic speeling misstakes
[20:30] <ilfpott> I installed java and in enabled it in libreoffice, and installed langaugetool
[20:30] <Fishbulb> I missteak
[20:30] <ilfpott> but why would it install it
[20:30] <ilfpott> Outy: java error
[20:30] <Outy> ilfpott: what do you mean with basic spelling mistakes
[20:30] <ilfpott> lfffllfl it doesnt underline it with red
[20:30] <ilfpott> it's a random word
[20:30] <ecormier> ilfpott: it does here
[20:31] <dakine> any grub gurus out there thats up for helping me with booting my drive
[20:31] <ilfpott> what's the way to make it underline it with red
[20:31] <ilfpott> ???
[20:31] <ilfpott> ecormier:
[20:32] <Outy> ilfpott: you have to check "Check spelling as you type"  see my screenshot
[20:32] <Outy> ilfpott: in my screen i did't set it either... tried it a few secs ago it is working
[20:34] <dakine> trying to get booting configured correctly, trying to boot (raid1 (/boot partition) (LUKS encrypted partition (LVM - root / ext4)))
[20:35] <Outy> ilfpott: http://i.imgur.com/soN7x8i.png
[20:35] <ecormier> ilfpott: if you're using something other than us english check that you have the proper hunspell package for your language installed
[20:35] <ilfpott> how why hunspell package?
[20:36] <ecormier> because libreoffice is using hunspell for spell checking
[20:36] <Outy> ilfpott: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_support_of_LibreOffice
[20:36] <ilfpott> ecormier: ok, and what about advanced checking, can you type "outputted" word, and see if libreoffice catches the error
[20:36] <ilfpott> does it work for you?
[20:37] <Outy> ilfpott: http://i.imgur.com/Iqk7jVu.png
[20:37] <Outy> her it is
[20:37] <ecormier> outputted is not an error
[20:37] <Outy> ecormier: it is
[20:37] <Outy> =)
[20:37] <Outy> see screenshot
[20:38] <ecormier> past tense: outputted; past participle: outputted
[20:38] <ecormier> ^ dictionary.com
[20:38] <Outy> OMG
[20:38] <ecormier> :)
[20:38] <Outy> I never used "outputted"
[20:39] <Outy> sounds sooo wrong
[20:39] <ecormier> check before you speak lies :)
[20:40] <ecormier> anyways the hunspell thing will fix up ilfpott
[20:41] <Outy> it's like crazy stupid German orthography reform of 1996 (simplified german orthography for an excuse of ever growing poorly educated children)
[20:42] <ecormier> my spell check didn't work because I had changed my language to en_CA but unless you install the corresponding hunspell package, nothing works
[20:43] <ecormier> and there are all kinds of english variants... tire or tyre for example
[20:44] <Outy> tyre sounds like Great Britain
[20:44] <ecormier> australian
[20:45] <Outy> ecormier: wow you're either educated or from australia
[20:45] <Outy> :o)
[20:45] <ecormier> neither :)
[20:45] <Outy> lol
[20:45] <ecormier> kidding
[20:46] <sweb> using public/private ssh login require to disable root login ?
[20:46] <ecormier> sweb: no, but it's a good idea
[20:46] <sweb> is security risk if i disbale password auth
[20:46] <sweb> ?
[20:47] <ecormier> disabling password is more secure
[20:47] <sweb> ecormier: so allow root login via disable password login is ok ?
[20:47] <ecormier> not great, but ok
[20:48] <ecormier> I wouldn't enable it, I would log in as user and then su -
[20:48] <ecormier> the problem with root is that script kiddies don't have to guess the username
[20:49] <Outy> yeah much safer, and you should google ssh denyhosts to further secure ssh access
[20:50] <ecormier> fail2ban is nice too
[20:50] <ecormier> 3 failed attempts creates a ban on ip via iptables
[20:51] <ecormier> fail2ban is not as easy as just installing it though, you do have to edit the config files, but there are lots of great how-tos online
[20:51] <Outy> ecormier: time ago when i set up my first ssh server i didn't know much about security. viewed connection attempts in log file 2 hours later and it was the chinese trying to brute force it.
[20:52] <Outy> ecormier: so denyhosts can be easier for starters ... i think
[20:52] <ecormier> :) that can happen... I have mine on a non-obvious port, no password, and fail2ban... pretty safe, but then if they hack me, all they have is some old photos and music and movies
[20:53] <ecormier> Outy: I don't know, fail2ban is dead simple
[20:53] <Outy> ecormier: yeah no standard port is a very good start!
[20:53] <ecormier> and no response is good too
[20:54] <Outy> ecormier: standard ports are the first to get scanned
[20:54] <Outy> ecormier: you're talking icmp replies
[20:54] <ecormier> plus if you set it to something standard for another service, you can still connect from random hotel wifis
[20:55] <Outy> ecormier: jeah like ftp port
[20:55] <Outy> ^^ or 8080
[20:55] <ecormier> or 80 :)
[20:55] <Outy> lol
[20:55] <ecormier> hard to hack when it's not the service you expect
[20:56] <ecormier> port knocking is a cool concept too, but I've never had time to play with it
[20:56] <Outy> ecormier: have to google that
[20:56] <ecormier> :) brilliant idea
[20:57] <ecormier> all ports are closed unless you attempt to hit specific ports in under a few seconds
[20:57] <ecormier> then it opens the port you want ONLY to your current IP
[20:57] <Outy> ecormier: ahh like a secret password before handshake
[20:58] <ecormier> right, but you get absolutely no response from anything until you hit it right
[20:58] <Outy> ecormier: wow thats brilliant
[20:58] <ecormier> :) isn't it
[20:58] <ecormier> I'm just too lazy
[20:58] <Outy> ecormier: have to read a lot about it tomorrow *bookmark*
[20:59] <ecormier> you could connect on 22, but not have 22 open to the public... good idea
[21:00] <Outy> okay now i have other things to attend to.... see y@all l8ter
[21:01] <hotbakedpotato[m> with ufw im getting wrong number of arguments with this format.. sudo ufw allow out to vpn serv ip port number proto tcp or udp
[21:02] <Atomic_fZQd2> hello
[21:03] <Atomic_fZQd2> ??
[21:03] <Atomic_fZQd2> anybody up?
[21:04] <ecormier> Atomic_fZQd2: yes, many
[21:04] <navplayer> good!
[21:04] <Atomic_fZQd2> i am having an issue with xubuntu, is it aplropirate to ask for help here?
[21:05] <ecormier> I think, I'm a noob here too... I would guess there's also #xubuntu
[21:06] <aleksander> Anyone using OSS4? i can't see it in multimedia configuration in KDE
[21:06] <Atomic_fZQd2> @ecominer thanks
[21:07] <Budgii> Okay everyone, what's your favorite linux distro?
[21:07] <ecormier> Budgii: off topic
[21:07] <Budgii> ubuntu flavor
[21:07] <ecormier> still off topic
[21:07] <Budgii> isnt that the same or on topic?
[21:08] <Budgii> #ubuntu where should this be asked?
[21:08] <hggdh> Budgii: this is a support channel only
[21:08] <ecormier> I forget the ubuntu chat channel...
[21:08] <ecormier> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:08] <hggdh> yes
[21:09] <Budgii> tThanks :)
[21:09] <michael2> when writing an install script that needs to save state, I would normally put it in somewhere like: /var/lib/<the_program>/data  , but if I wanted to create that - state storing - file in the users $HOME where would the equivalent directory be?
[21:10] <Atomic_fZQd2> i think this question fits here. when i boot up my machine i can see the xububtu loading logo, then after a few seconds is starts flashing nonstop and doesn't boot.
[21:10] <Budgii> I had the same thing atomic
[21:10] <Atomic_fZQd2> i don't think it's gpu issue
[21:10] <Budgii> I quit xubu
[21:10] <Atomic_fZQd2> it just happened randomly after a reboot
[21:11] <Atomic_fZQd2> any help would be Appreciated
[21:11] <Budgii> Same. It was working great then just quit
[21:11] <Budgii> I reinstalled, and it just happened again
[21:11] <Budgii> I think it's something with xubu personally, but i truly wouldn't know :p
[21:11] <hggdh> michael2: you could store in under ~/.config/<application name>
[21:12] <ecormier> or .applicationname/
[21:13] <hggdh> michael2: ideally, you should use $XDG_CONFIG_HOME -- see https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
[21:14] <michael2> hggdh, ecormier but this in state data - stuff the program modifies as it runs -isnt .config for, well config?
[21:15] <|flyte|24> how do I set my fqdn? Can I simply add itto my /etc/hosts entry for localhost?
[21:15] <ecormier> michael2: you could use .cache?
[21:15] <akik> michael2: apropos
[21:15] <michael2> hggdh: XDG_CONFIG_HOME sounds good, but on my ubuntu 16.04 desktop that variabe is unset
[21:16] <michael2> .cache is close - but its not exactly state - its more like a place to put downloads - so that you dont have to download again
[21:17] <ecormier> so I would suggest again my first reccomend: ~/.applicationname/
[21:18] <adalbert> https://askubuntu.com/questions/799747/vlc-not-finding-any-upnp-devices , both answers don't work for me :(
[21:20] <dubh> Nabend, hat jemand Erfahrung mit Conky?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> !de | dubh
[21:22] <michael2> ecormier: yes, application name is a good way to do it - the thing is so many appication have already done that that my $HOME is huge - I was hoping not to add to my top level $HOME - but yeah maybe ill have to
[21:23] <ecormier> thousands
[21:23] <ecormier> well hundreds at least
[21:23] <michael2> ecormier: im ~/.applicationname is a good way to do it
[21:23] <ecormier> this is
[21:23] <Jordan_U> bryan309: Yes it is. Welcome :)
[21:24] <ecormier> sort of, its irc
[21:27] <Jordan_U> bryan309: You've mentioned a lot of things so far. Let's start with one problem at a time. It sounds like you have Ubuntu installed on your machine (not in a VM) already, is that correct?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> bryan309: Great. And you want to run gns3, correct?
[21:29] <Jordan_U> bryan309: OK. I'm not sure how "vm player" (presumably vmware player) relates to gns3. You shouldn't need vmware player to run gns3.
[21:29] <hggdh> michael2: see http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest -- if XDG_CONFIG_HOME is not set, use ~/.config
[21:36] <AndroBuilder> hello, can someone help me with a systemd ... i need a service (kind of like a minecraft server) set up as a systemd so it starts on boot (but in a seperat detached screen) and should restart itself if crashes
[21:37] <pedrocr> for some reason on Ubuntu-Gnome 16.04 (but not on normal Unity Gnome) gedit always open a new window when called from the terminal
[21:37] <pedrocr> quite annoying, anyone know what could be happening?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> pedrocr: Is your desired action to bring gedit to the foreground or for gedit to open a new document?
[21:46] <ecormier> pedrocr: yeah, I have no idea where to start with that... probably google
[21:46] <Budgii> what was that 200 ppl just joined
[21:46] <ecormier> netsplit?
[21:46] <erio> 45 ppl
[21:46] <Jordan_U> !netsplit | Budgii
[21:46] <Budgii> ok i didnt count. lol
[21:46] <erio> how to filter this ?
[21:46] <hggdh> Budgii: net split and rejoin
[21:46] <erio> in hexchat
[21:46] <Budgii> gotcha
[21:46] <Budgii> do i need to do anything?
[21:46] <kostkon> !ircquiet | erio
[21:46] <kostkon> damn
[21:46] <Borw3> erio: LOL!!!, Ubuntu helping every other OS but their own? XD
[21:46] <ecormier> Budgii: nope
[21:46] <erio> !ircquiet
[21:47] <kostkon> !quietirc | erio
[21:47] <erio> !quietirc
[21:47] <erio> thanks
[21:47] <erio> reading now, thank you ubottu
[21:47] <erio> thank you kostkon
[21:48] <kostkon> erio, there's also #snappy specifically for snap packaging support
[21:48] <erio> thanks kostkon, I am there too, but no one is there
[21:49] <kostkon> erio, ok
[21:49] <erio> like... 244 people but empty at the same time :(
[21:49] <pedrocr> Jordan_U: I want it to open the file in a new tab instead of a new window
[21:49] <hggdh> erio: its a weekend...
[21:49] <ecormier> erio: sometimes you have to ask and wait :)
[21:49] <erio> yeah
[21:49] <erio> it's alright
[21:49] <erio> hey
[21:49] <erio> if someone have love2d installed
[21:50] <erio> https://bakudas.itch.io/clt
[21:50] <erio> you can download it there
[21:50] <erio> it's a really small very simple project, built as a test in a weekend
[21:50] <erio> the source is on github too
[21:51] <Lubecker> hi everyone
[21:51] <Lubecker> is there anyone who can help me?
[21:51] <Budgii> what with
[21:51] <Budgii> ?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> pedrocr: Does adding "--new-document" to your invocation reliably achieve that? (I can't test it on my own machine at the moment)
[21:52] <Lubecker> Zurzeit versuche ich, eine SD Karte zum Datentransfer vom Laptop zum Drucker zu benutzen.
[21:52] <Lubecker> I am trying to use a SD card for transferring data from the laptop to the printer.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Lubecker: Ok. And what problem are you running into while trying to do that? (Please stick to English here, #ubuntu-de for German).
[21:53] <Lubecker> My printer doesn't detect any of the stored files on the card.
[21:53] <pedrocr> Jordan_U: --new-document doesn't work at all so I assume there's something wrong with gedit's existing session detection
[21:53] <Budgii> are drivers installed?
[21:53] <ecormier> Lubecker: is the usb formatted with fat?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Lubecker: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" with the SD card inserted.
[21:54] <Lubecker> someone told me that it is possible to format the SD card into NTFS or fat32.
[21:54] <Lubecker> I want to print PDF files from the SD card.
[21:55] <ecormier> and it's mbr and not gpt?
[21:55] <Lubecker> I wasn't able to connect the laptop with the printer with cable.
[21:55] <pedrocr> anyone know why Ubuntu GNOME doesn't have the setting to disable the touchpad?
[21:55] <pedrocr> I have a trackpoint and touchpad and like to just completely disable the touchpad?
[21:56] <Budgii> no options in mouse settings?
[21:56] <ecormier> pedrocr: you might be able to get at that through gconf/dconf
[21:57] <ecormier> or auto run a synclient command automatically on login
[21:58] <ecormier> 'synclient TouchpadOff=1'
[21:58] <ecormier> you need a synaptics touchpad for that to work though
[21:58] <matyd> Just curious, why disable the touchpad?
[21:59] <Budgii> mouse or interuptions when typing
[21:59] <akik> Lubecker: there are mkfs.vfat and mkfs.ntfs
[21:59] <Budgii> personally fo rme
[21:59] <Lubecker_> sorry I lost the connection
[21:59] <akik> Lubecker_: there are mkfs.vfat and mkfs.ntfs
[21:59] <matyd> I had to recently disable the tap to click function of the touchpad because it was super buggy but didn't diasable the entire thing
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Lubecker: I don't recommend using mkfs direcly if you're a new user. A mistake could lead to destroying data on the wrong disk.
[22:00] <ecormier> matyd: maybe it palm triggers when typing ... many reasons to turn it off
[22:00] <Budgii> I know some built in software will have palm guard or something, it changes sensitivity around the edges while typing
[22:00] <matyd> ecormier, that was my issue but I disabled the tap to click and that fixed it for the most part. That's the only reason I was asking
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Lubecker_: Please run "sudo blkid" in a terminal. Then copy and paste the output of that command into http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the link to it here.
[22:01] <pedrocr> matyd: I don't use it and sometimes trigger it by accident
[22:01] <ecormier> matyd: if it's never used, why enable it at all
[22:01] <pedrocr> disabling it in the BIOS is probably my next step
[22:01] <matyd> pedrocr, gotcha
[22:01] <ecormier> pedrocr: doubt you can...
[22:01] <pedrocr> ecormier: why?
[22:01] <matyd> ecormier, solid point you have there. I use the touchpad quite a bit but also have a mouse lol
[22:01] <ecormier> I've never seen a bios with that setting
[22:02] <ecormier> maybe on a newer machine
[22:02] <ecormier> I'd just run that synclient command to see if it works, and if so, add it to your DE's startup list
[22:03] <pedrocr> ecormier: it's one more thing to keep working, let me check the BIOS
[22:03] <Lubecker_> @Jordan_U: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/=kR77rJ3xCv/
[22:04] <dubh> Hey. Does anyone have an idea why I can still open Conky even though I deleted it before?
[22:05] <Budgii> maybe need to uninstall it
[22:05] <yosefrow__> dubh, `which conky` ?
[22:05] <dubh> sudo apt-get install conky conky-all
[22:05] <dubh> Sudo apt-get --purge remove conky-all
[22:05] <Lubecker_> I want to use a SD card for transferring PDF files from laptop to printer, because I wasn't able to install the printer via cable.
[22:06] <dubh> sudo apt-get --purge remove package name
[22:06] <yosefrow__> dubh, what is the command u are running for conky?
[22:06] <ecormier> dubh: you forgot conky
[22:06] <bluefox83> dubh: because it's still in ram, restart x and itll be gone
[22:06] <ecormier> Sudo apt-get --purge remove conky conky-all
[22:06] <dubh> Thank you. I'll try it.
[22:07] <Lubecker_> I want to format the SD card with NTFS or fat32.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> Lubecker_: It's already fat32.
[22:08] <yosefrow_> how do i turn on apt autoremove permanently?
[22:08] <yosefrow_> so i dont have to run it all the time
[22:08] <Fishbulb> cls
[22:08] <ecormier> yosefrow_: cron?
[22:08] <yosefrow_> ecormier, that feels like a hack
[22:08] <Fishbulb> ls S | grep vlc
[22:09] <Fishbulb> ps S | grep vlc
[22:09] <ecormier> yosefrow_: it surely is :)
[22:09] <kostkon> Fishbulb, wrong window..
[22:09] <Fishbulb> top
[22:09] <ecormier> yosefrow_: nothing wrong with a hack...
[22:10] <yosefrow_> ecormier, I prefer elegance :P
[22:10] <yosefrow_> like a dpkg or apt option
[22:10] <ecormier> yosefrow_: elegance is a hack too
[22:10] <yosefrow_> and I'm a hack for prefering elegance
[22:10] <yosefrow_> but its my preferred hack
[22:10] <brym> dik, i think there's a lot to be said about a resourceful approach on things
[22:11] <pedrocr> ecormier: independent ON/OFF switches for the TrackPad and TrackPoint in the BIOS
[22:11] <pedrocr> ecormier: and yet Linux still uses the hardware anyway :)
[22:11] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: What is your end goal? Are you more concerned with the special case of automatically removing old kernels, or do you want automatically installed dependencies to be removed whenever you remove a package?
[22:11] <ecormier> pedrocr: cool
[22:11] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: the reason it doesn't already run is because you could accidentally remove all your kernels, making your system unbootable...don't auto-run autoremove...
[22:11] <pedrocr> ecormier: it would be if they worked
[22:11] <ecormier> pedrocr: lol, so back to trying my solutions?
[22:12] <pedrocr> ecormier: yep, I bet at some point someone had to implement a quirk to be able to access the trackpad on a laptop with a broken BIOS...
[22:12] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, how could that happen?
[22:12] <ecormier> pedrocr: then open a terminal and run: synclient TouchpadOff=1
[22:12] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, what solution do i have, the other solution is that i will end up with a full /boot partition and system will hang, apt will break
[22:13] <Jordan_U> bluefox83: I can't think of any reasonable situation where "sudo apt autoremove" would remove *all* installed kernels.
[22:13] <pedrocr> ecormier: you had mentioned, and it does work
[22:13] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: when it updates to a new kernel, it'll automatically remove old ones...but if there's a bug in the3 newest one and it wont boot for some reason, you end up with no bootable kernels!
[22:13] <ecormier> pedrocr: so which DE are you in, do you know how to add it to autorun?
[22:13] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, :(
[22:13] <pedrocr> ecormier: gnome shell, trying it out for the first time, no clue
[22:13] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: i'm speaking from experience, sorry.
[22:14] <pedrocr> ecormier: the startup applications in the tweak tool seems to not have an advanced mode I can add an app to
[22:14] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, so a script to programmatically delete files from boot?
[22:14] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, /boot
[22:14] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[22:14] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, im reading that page now
[22:15] <ecormier> pedrocr: searching
[22:15] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: you could theoretically just make it remove all kernels except the most recently installed and 1 or 2 older ones, to make sure you always have bootable kernels
[22:15] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: And I'm personally an advocate for not using a separate /boot/. It's very rarely needed, and introduces problems like the one you describe that you otherwise wouldn't have.
[22:15] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, Note: apt-get autoremove will not remove all automatically installed old kernel providing packages as fallback versions are kept; the list of kept kernels is maintained and automatically updated in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels as a list of matching regular expressions.
[22:15] <ecormier> pedrocr: gnome-session-properties
[22:15] <yosefrow_> bluefox83,  what do you make of this
[22:16] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, agree but cannot be changed
[22:16] <dubh> Hey. Can someone answer me, why I see everything in the personal folder "twice"? For example, documents (eng) & documents (ger), music (eng) & music (ger) ...
[22:16] <pedrocr> ecormier: ah, that will work, thanks
[22:16] <ecormier> cheers
[22:17] <Ecco> Hi! I'm trying to write a custom udev rule, but for some reason it doesn't work
[22:17] <Ecco> I'm trying to allow any local user to read/write to an USB device
[22:17] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: i'm like a year or two behind in versions currently...i haven't had a dedicated internet connection...i'm using my phone as a hotspot..sooooi might not have the most up to date info
[22:17] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: Why not?
[22:17] <Ecco> so I'm adding TAG+="uaccess"
[22:17] <Ecco> -> doesn't work
[22:17] <Ecco> if I add MODE=0666 it works though
[22:17] <Ecco> but I don't understand why TAG+="uaccess" doesn't work
[22:17] <yosefrow_> bluefox83,  lol
[22:18] <yosefrow_> ecormier, I found an elegant solution :P
[22:18] <yosefrow_> Make sure /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades contains line
[22:18] <yosefrow_> Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";
[22:18] <yosefrow_> I figured there would be an option for this
[22:18] <ecormier> cool
[22:18] <ecormier> I don't use the automatic stuff, I'm running each command in a term
[22:18] <ecormier> :)
[22:19] <yosefrow_> ecormier, honestly i dont really understand that option yet. but the cron hack is clean and understandable. so well see
[22:19] <bluefox83> speaking of my use of a hotspot...how the heck do i get my system to upgrade on this connection? it fails trying to update packages
[22:19] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: Note that automatically autoremoving could have some unexpected consequences...
[22:19] <ecormier> I like to see exactly what is happening... then when something breaks, I know the last thing I did
[22:19] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, such as?
[22:20] <dubh> Hey. Can someone answer me, why I see everything in the personal folder "twice"? For example, documents (eng) & dokumente (ger), music (eng) & musik (ger) ...
[22:20] <dubh> if I recall correctly, it could be related to a gimmick with VLC Media Player ...
[22:21] <ecormier> dubh: you have to wait more than 4 minutes before reasking... it's all the same people talking
[22:21] <pedrocr> ecormier: ended up installing this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/131/touchpad-indicator/
[22:21] <pedrocr> makes it easier to re-enable on the rare occasion someone borrows the laptop
[22:21] <ecormier> pedrocr: that works too
[22:21] <Jordan_U> yosefrow_: For example, say you decide you want to switch to KDE. You run "sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop". Eveything is great. Some time later you uninstall one package that's a dependancy of kubuntu-desktop. It would seem to be a minor thing, you no longer have kubuntu-desktop and (lets say) kedit installed, but everything else is still there. Except that everything else was "automatically installed"
[22:21] <Jordan_U> when kubuntu-desktop was, and now with kubuntu-desktop gone they're now "unused". So next unattended upgrade you lose all of KDE.
[22:21] <pedrocr> now I just need to figure out the gedit thing and why firefox doesn't honor the dark theme
[22:22] <dubh> ecormier: okay, sry
[22:22] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, I've done something like this before. wasnt fun
[22:22] <ecormier> :) no worries
[22:22] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, but im using a minimal amount of metapackages because its a server
[22:23] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: is it a production server?
[22:23] <yosefrow_> Jordan_U, do you know of any prominent metapackages that might be on a server?
[22:23] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, dev/stage, but there is one production server as well
[22:23] <yosefrow_> that i want to give the same treatment
[22:24] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: you likely wont be upgrading or adding things to production servers frequently...so old package removal shouldn't be an issue
[22:25] <yosefrow_> thx 4 the help guys
[22:26] <bluefox83> no problem
[22:26] <kostkon> pedrocr, https://github.com/overdodactyl/ShadowFox
[22:28] <pedrocr> kostkon: that says there's an existing dark theme
[22:28] <pedrocr> I'd just like firefox to follow the system theme like chrome does
[22:29] <bluefox83> pedrocr: i believe there's a setting in firefox to just use system theme...
[22:32] <pedrocr> bluefox83: browser.display.use_system_colors doesn't seem to work
[22:32] <bluefox83> pedrocr: well...bummer
[22:33] <pedrocr> well, the default dark theme that comes with firefox looks fine so I just changed to that
[22:35] <pedrocr> now the only thing missing is to figure out why gedit is broken and I have my environment back
[22:36] <bluefox83> i prefer vim or gvim...so i dunno
[22:38] <pedrocr> :)
[22:38] <yosefrow_> neovim?
[22:38] <bluefox83> never heard of that O.o
[22:40] <pantera> Notepadqq
[22:41] <Guest82246> yoyo
[22:41] <yosefrow_> leafpad
[22:41] <pedrocr> bluefox83: https://neovim.io/ in case you're not joking
[22:41] <yosefrow_> wasnt
[22:41] <ecormier> vim ftw
[22:41] <Guest82246> vim is the best thing thathapppened to my life
[22:42] <yosefrow_> vim is the vim vim that vim to my vim
[22:43] <Guest82246> why is it that an irc client tells me 'cannot send to channel'?
[22:44] <ecormier> Guest82246: you need to register your nick for that channel?
[22:45] <bluefox83> uh, wow...neovim sounds cool...but i'm over here barely able to use half of vim's features because all i do is use it to edit config files now and then LOL
[22:49] <bluefox83> and why is it there are so many jokes about people not knowing how to exit vim?
[22:50] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, because its funny?
[22:50] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: it was the first time, but now it's like...read the manual already!
[22:50] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, though personally I don't take joy in people's suffering. I look back on my own struggles learning how to exit vim, and its kind of hilarious
[22:51] <ecormier> it's not obvious at all to a newb
[22:51] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: i just googled it...
[22:51] <xqb> How to generate a random string https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8c/57/54/8c5754f5378d682887da474eac46ddc1.png
[22:51] <ecormier> lol
[22:51] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, now, I'm at the stage that I'm able to laugh at the idea of being confused at entering the vim console explorer instead of actually exiting vim
[22:52] <yosefrow_> vim command explorer*
[22:52] <bluefox83> uhm, you can't generate a truely random string, there are always limitations
[22:52] <ecormier> bluefox83: read the link
[22:52] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, I can't tell you how many times that entering the vim command explorer confused the hell out of me
[22:52] <yosefrow_> like "how did this happen?" What the heck? who hacked my vim?
[22:53] <yosefrow_> I thought i exited already?
[22:53] <yosefrow_> whats going on?
[22:53] <bluefox83> yosefrow_: i've done it by sshing into my box from a cellphone, editing a file, only to find that the keyboard i was using didn't supoport the enter key...lol
[22:54] <yosefrow_> bluefox83, ha xD
[22:54] <bluefox83> or :
[22:54] <yosefrow_> oh well
[22:54] <ecormier> or try to use the ubuntu bundled vi... eek
[22:54] <yosefrow_> for those of you wondering what the vim command explorer is, try q: instead of :q
[22:55] <yosefrow_> its probably known by a different name, but i use it for searching my command history
[22:56] <bluefox83> yes, that will be very confusing, i've done it accidentally several times
[22:56] <ecormier> I just type : and press up arrow
[22:56] <yosefrow_> ecormier, with 'q:' you can then type / and search commands
[22:56] <ecormier> my questionable commands are never buried
[22:56] <yosefrow_> or grep your ~/.viminfo file
[22:57] <ecormier> all of that is longer :)
[22:57] <yosefrow_> ecormier, i sometimes bury commands :P
[22:58] <ecormier> I've had a cheat sheet above my desk for the last 10 years
[23:00] <yosefrow_> ecormier, lol apparently you can search search history too with 'q/'
[23:04] <pedrocr> ugh, in Ubuntu-gnome alt-right/left switches tty
[23:05] <pedrocr> that's way too simple a shortcut to jump out of X
[23:05] <pedrocr> and the GDM login includes a "show text" option, hilarious
[23:08] <pedrocr> known bug apparently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1508146
[23:14] <yosefrow_> The OpenSSL project does not (any longer) include root CA certificates.
[23:15] <yosefrow_> how do i remedy this?
[23:15] <yosefrow_> other than to tar /usr/ssl/certs from ubuntu
[23:16] <yosefrow_> https://www.mail-archive.com/modssl-users@modssl.org/msg16980.html
[23:16] <yosefrow_> this looks like it could help i guess
[23:17] <yosefrow_> I wonder how ubuntu gets its trusted ca certs
[23:19] <jcarey9149> Is this the correct forum to ask about kernel problems?  I recently updated to the 4.13.0-32 kernel, and my system won't boot now.  I get messages about lvmetad not contacted.  It's an encrypted disk and never gets to the prompt for the disk encryption.  The 4.13.0-31 kernel boots fine.
[23:42] <tomreyn> yosefrow_: possibly from https://cabforum.org/
[23:43] <tomreyn> you could ask this in #ubuntu-hardened