=== xqb` is now known as xqb [12:00] first time using weechat yeah ;o) [12:02] congrats. [12:07] knome: thx [12:08] i like it. used pidgin before. its nice. but i dont like the fact that it stays active in background when i close it. [12:10] Ok that confused me SO much [12:10] Cause WeChat, the chinese android app [12:10] so you made me doubletake. [12:12] crond: ;o) no no its weechat client for terminal [12:13] lol yeah that makes SO much more sense. [12:13] can't say I've ever used it, in ssh I just use irssi [12:13] Good plan. [12:14] I use hexchat in X, though. [12:15] crond: yeah i thought about using irssi but weechat i tried first [12:15] hey if it works, it works [12:15] no point in getting religious about program choice in Linux [12:15] unless you use emacs. cause emacs is terrible. [12:18] i'll try irssi next - not that i care about features - i'll choose what suits me better [12:19] You'll have to configure it a bit, I'd recommend a newer version that supports SASL. [12:21] Unit193: like themes or colors? xubuntu gives me 0.8.19 from official repos [12:22] That should do. [12:23] looks like my debian box has 0.8.17 and it has SASL I do believe [12:23] so you'll be fine [12:25] here i am [12:25] irssi [12:25] crond: https://irssi.org/2016/02/29/irssi-0.8.18-released/ [12:26] looks and feels a little bit untidy - nicknames are not in a list on the right side - but i know it can be configured [12:26] Unit193, hmm, guess it doesn't. interesting [12:27] crond: cap_sasl.pl only. [12:27] I just connected to my znc so it hadn't come up [12:28] hal90001: Yeah irssi isn't the best out of the box, but I'm quite fond of it myself. [12:29] i think i'll get along with weechat (i'm lazy) but ill keep irssi installed for checking it out a bit more later [12:29] Sure, use what works (in your case, weechat.) [12:29] :o) [12:30] Just don't use emacs. it probably can be an irc client, but it's a terrible idea. [12:30] crond, didn't you just say there was no reason for getting religious... [12:30] knome, except about emacs. [12:30] nope, including emacs, if you will [12:31] never. also, it DOES have an irc client. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs?action=browse;oldid=EmacsIRCClient;id=ERC [12:31] lol [12:31] Emacs: "Screw the kitchen sink approach, we toss the entire house at it." [12:32] i heard about emacs but do not really know what that is - there is "mac" in the name that worries me ^^ [12:32] crond: He was politely asking you to tone down the negativity, actually. [12:32] Unit193, yes [12:32] hal90001: Text editor with extensions. [12:33] Unit193, pfft. I'm just playfully taking cracks at emacs, if people don't have enough of a sense of humour to handle some teasing, then they have other issues [12:33] also, if they care enough about a text editor to get offended, more issues. [12:33] nano and mousepad are nice [12:34] crond, maybe, but this is also a family-friendly and all-inclusive channel, so let's be nice and not make people go away even if they had problems that made them leave... [12:34] emacs is notoriously ...feature rich. I don't see how on earth making a joke about that could be 'non-inclusive' [12:35] it's a text editor, not gender identity [12:35] but fair enough [12:37] I haven't ever used mousepad [12:38] it's a good, simple GUI text editor that does its job [12:38] I have a question here. There is a MIME Type Editor in Xubuntu. I can assign default programs to open specific file types and change the associations to another program. But there is no option to remove the file type association. That bugs me. [12:40] hal90001, ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list [12:40] i think that should do it.. [12:41] wouldn't it be in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list or /usr/share/applications/mimeapps.cache ? [12:41] Oh, yeah, or for local user. [12:41] likely the one i mentioned, unless you want to remove some default defaults... [12:41] what knome said [12:41] and cache is just what it says - cache - don't trust it :P [12:41] I have a tendancy to hamfistedly modify things for my entire system in the wrong places. [12:42] unfortunately sometimes you kind of have to, and that's even worse [12:45] found it. /usr/share/xubuntu/applications/defaults.list seems to be the right one with the unwanted association i was looking for [12:47] thanks [12:49] okay have to to some day activities besides hacking linux and chatting with you - see ya and thanks for the help [13:10] someone, can you help me fix audio in XUBUNTU 16.04 ? [13:11] !sound | Arief start here [13:11] Arief start here: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [13:58] hmm firefox isn't scaling fonts with my system dpi scaling [18:40] hello @all [18:41] today I upgraded vrom 17.04 to 17.10 [18:41] now I have a strange behavior after I closed the lid of my laptop [18:43] after reopenning the lid the mouse pointer disappeared and when I move the mouse the lower part of the screen up to the line where the mouse pointers "hotspot" schould be flickers balck and white. [18:44] when I stop moving the mouse the desktop is shown as normal. [18:45] When I logg of and log in again the behavior is back to normal until I again close thze lid. [18:45] any hint where to look for the problem? [18:54] anonymous_alias: see if the X log shows a clue [18:58] probably in /var/log [19:10] well_laid_lawn: something special to look for (except "error")? [19:12] I have never seen your issue before so not sure how it would be happening [19:13] nothing suspecious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:13] what's the vid card ? [19:13] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [19:14] Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) [19:15] check to see if it is using sna when it needs uxa [19:15] can you guide me how? [19:16] on the other hand, it it was such a basic configuration, shouldnt it fail before closing the lid too? [19:16] in a terminal grep -i sna /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:17] returns nothing [19:19] that was my guess for what's happening [19:20] looking for uxa in /var/log/Xorg.0.log also returns nothing [19:20] is that OK? [19:27] probably [19:27] some things to try - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#SNA_issues [19:43] Thanks for the li9nk but none of them seams to e applicapable because they have different failure descriptions. Also they seam to apply for lder GCs before Rev06 whereas I have Rev07. [19:47] it does seem to be an odd thing you have happening there anonymous_alias [19:52] think so too... ;o) [19:53] the odd thing is that I only made a minor update and now it's broken... [19:57] it will be systemd handling the lid closing/opening iirc [19:57] something with that might have changed with the update [20:10] I wonder how to find out what... [20:54] quite strange: I just figured out that when I switch to a console () and back to grphic console () the problem disapears (until I close the lid next time...). So at least I have a work around. [20:55] Thanks well_laid_lawn for your time! [20:56] cheers [21:06] is asking for help with xubuntu appropriate here? [21:08] welp [21:09] See the topic, and just ask away. [21:13] when i boot it up , it shiw the xubuntu logo and the after a few seconds starts flashing and doesn't boot. not a gpu issue. [21:13] any help is appreciated [21:14] here's what i tried: chrooting and upgrading the system with apt-get upgrade and also apt-get autoremove [21:14] i also tried reconfigurong with dpkg === Atomic_fZQd2 is now known as quantzbeats [21:15] !nomodeset | Atomic_fZQd2: Also tried this yet? [21:15] Atomic_fZQd2: Also tried this yet?: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [21:16] from the live cd you should be able to mount the os and check the kernel log too [21:18] well_laid_lawn: where's the kernel log? in /var/log ? [21:18] ubottu: will try that now [21:18] quantzbeats: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:19] yep in /var/log [21:22] ok will check after work. [21:23] gtg [21:23] ttyl [21:23] thanks