[12:00] <hal90001> first time using weechat yeah ;o)
[12:02] <knome> congrats.
[12:07] <hal90001> knome: thx
[12:08] <hal90001> i like it. used pidgin before. its nice. but i dont like the fact that it stays active in background when i close it.
[12:10] <crond> Ok that confused me SO much
[12:10] <crond> Cause WeChat, the chinese android app
[12:10] <crond> so you made me doubletake.
[12:12] <hal90001> crond: ;o) no no its weechat client for terminal
[12:13] <crond> lol yeah that makes SO much more sense.
[12:13] <crond> can't say I've ever used it, in ssh I just use irssi
[12:13] <Unit193> Good plan.
[12:14] <crond> I use hexchat in X, though.
[12:15] <hal90001> crond: yeah i thought about using irssi  but weechat i tried first
[12:15] <crond> hey if it works, it works
[12:15] <crond> no point in getting religious about program choice in Linux
[12:15] <crond> unless you use emacs. cause emacs is terrible.
[12:18] <hal90001> i'll try irssi next - not that i care about features - i'll choose what suits me better
[12:19] <Unit193> You'll have to configure it a bit, I'd recommend a newer version that supports SASL.
[12:21] <hal90001> Unit193: like themes or colors?  xubuntu gives me 0.8.19 from official repos
[12:22] <Unit193> That should do.
[12:23] <crond> looks like my debian box has 0.8.17 and it has SASL I do believe
[12:23] <crond> so you'll be fine
[12:25] <hal90002> here i am
[12:25] <hal90002> irssi
[12:25] <Unit193> crond: https://irssi.org/2016/02/29/irssi-0.8.18-released/
[12:26] <hal90002> looks and feels a little bit untidy - nicknames are not in a list on the right side - but i know it can be configured
[12:26] <crond> Unit193, hmm, guess it doesn't.  interesting
[12:27] <Unit193> crond: cap_sasl.pl only.
[12:27] <crond> I just connected to my znc so it hadn't come up
[12:28] <Unit193> hal90001: Yeah irssi isn't the best out of the box, but I'm quite fond of it myself.
[12:29] <hal90002> i think i'll get along with weechat (i'm lazy) but ill keep irssi installed for checking it out a bit more later
[12:29] <Unit193> Sure, use what works (in your case, weechat.)
[12:29] <hal90001> :o)
[12:30] <crond> Just don't use emacs.  it probably can be an irc client, but it's a terrible idea.
[12:30] <knome> crond, didn't you just say there was no reason for getting religious...
[12:30] <crond> knome, except about emacs.
[12:30] <knome> nope, including emacs, if you will
[12:31] <crond> never.  also, it DOES have an irc client.  https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs?action=browse;oldid=EmacsIRCClient;id=ERC
[12:31] <crond> lol
[12:31] <crond> Emacs: "Screw the kitchen sink approach, we toss the entire house at it."
[12:32] <hal90001> i heard about emacs but do not really know what that is - there is "mac" in the name that worries me ^^
[12:32] <Unit193> crond: He was politely asking you to tone down the negativity, actually.
[12:32] <knome> Unit193, yes
[12:32] <Unit193> hal90001: Text editor with extensions.
[12:33] <crond> Unit193, pfft. I'm just playfully taking cracks at emacs, if people don't have enough of a sense of humour to handle some teasing, then they have other issues
[12:33] <crond> also, if they care enough about a text editor to get offended, more issues.
[12:33] <hal90001> nano and mousepad are nice
[12:34] <knome> crond, maybe, but this is also a family-friendly and all-inclusive channel, so let's be nice and not make people go away even if they had problems that made them leave...
[12:34] <crond> emacs is notoriously ...feature rich.  I don't see how on earth making a joke about that could be 'non-inclusive'
[12:35] <crond> it's a text editor, not gender identity
[12:35] <crond> but fair enough
[12:37] <crond> I haven't ever used mousepad
[12:38] <knome> it's a good, simple GUI text editor that does its job
[12:38] <hal90001> I have a question here. There is a MIME Type Editor in Xubuntu. I can assign default programs to open specific file types and change the associations to another program. But there is no option to remove the file type association. That bugs me.
[12:40] <knome> hal90001, ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[12:40] <knome> i think that should do it..
[12:41] <crond> wouldn't it be in  /usr/share/applications/defaults.list or /usr/share/applications/mimeapps.cache ?
[12:41] <crond> Oh, yeah, or for local user.
[12:41] <knome> likely the one i mentioned, unless you want to remove some default defaults...
[12:41] <crond> what knome said
[12:41] <knome> and cache is just what it says - cache - don't trust it :P
[12:41] <crond> I have a tendancy to hamfistedly modify things for my entire system in the wrong places.
[12:42] <knome> unfortunately sometimes you kind of have to, and that's even worse
[12:45] <hal90001> found it. /usr/share/xubuntu/applications/defaults.list seems to be the right one with the unwanted association i was looking for
[12:47] <hal90001> thanks
[12:49] <hal90001> okay have to to some day activities besides hacking linux and chatting with you - see ya and thanks for the help
[13:10] <Arief> someone, can you help me fix audio in XUBUNTU 16.04 ?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !sound | Arief start here
[13:58] <crond> hmm firefox isn't scaling fonts with my system dpi scaling
[18:40] <anonymous_alias> hello @all
[18:41] <anonymous_alias> today I upgraded vrom 17.04 to 17.10
[18:41] <anonymous_alias> now I have a strange behavior after I closed the lid of my laptop
[18:43] <anonymous_alias> after reopenning the lid the mouse pointer disappeared and when I move the mouse the lower part of the screen up to the line where the mouse pointers "hotspot" schould be flickers balck and white.
[18:44] <anonymous_alias> when I stop moving the mouse the desktop is shown as normal.
[18:45] <anonymous_alias> When I logg of and log in again the behavior is back to normal until I again close thze lid.
[18:45] <anonymous_alias> any hint where to look for the problem?
[18:54] <well_laid_lawn> anonymous_alias:  see if the X log shows a clue
[18:58] <zleap> probably in /var/log
[19:10] <anonymous_alias> well_laid_lawn: something special to look for (except "error")?
[19:12] <well_laid_lawn> I have never seen your issue before so not sure how it would be happening
[19:13] <anonymous_alias> nothing suspecious in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:13] <well_laid_lawn> what's the vid card ?
[19:13] <anonymous_alias> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:14] <anonymous_alias> Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[19:15] <well_laid_lawn> check to see if it is using sna when it needs uxa
[19:15] <anonymous_alias> can you guide me how?
[19:16] <anonymous_alias> on the other hand, it it was such a basic configuration, shouldnt it fail before closing the lid too?
[19:16] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal   grep -i sna /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:17] <anonymous_alias> returns nothing
[19:19] <well_laid_lawn> that was my guess for what's happening
[19:20] <anonymous_alias> looking for uxa in /var/log/Xorg.0.log also returns nothing
[19:20] <anonymous_alias> is that OK?
[19:27] <well_laid_lawn> probably
[19:27] <well_laid_lawn> some things to try - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#SNA_issues
[19:43] <anonymous_alias> Thanks for the li9nk but none of them seams to e applicapable because they have different failure descriptions. Also they seam to apply for lder GCs before Rev06 whereas I have Rev07.
[19:47] <well_laid_lawn> it does seem to be an odd thing you have happening there anonymous_alias
[19:52] <anonymous_alias> think so too... ;o)
[19:53] <anonymous_alias> the odd thing is that I only made a minor update and now it's broken...
[19:57] <well_laid_lawn> it will be systemd handling the lid closing/opening iirc
[19:57] <well_laid_lawn> something with that might have changed with the update
[20:10] <anonymous_alias> I wonder how to find out what...
[20:54] <anonymous_alias> quite strange: I just figured out that when I switch to a console (<strg><alt><f1>) and back to grphic console (<alt><f7>) the problem disapears (until I close the lid next time...). So at least I have a work around.
[20:55] <anonymous_alias> Thanks well_laid_lawn for your time!
[20:56] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:06] <Atomic_fZQd2> is asking for help with xubuntu appropriate here?
[21:08] <Atomic_fZQd2> welp
[21:09] <krytarik> See the topic, and just ask away.
[21:13] <Atomic_fZQd2> when i boot it up , it shiw the xubuntu logo and the after a few seconds starts flashing and doesn't boot. not a gpu issue.
[21:13] <Atomic_fZQd2> any help is appreciated
[21:14] <Atomic_fZQd2> here's what i tried: chrooting and upgrading the system with apt-get upgrade and also apt-get autoremove
[21:14] <Atomic_fZQd2> i also tried reconfigurong with dpkg
[21:15] <krytarik> !nomodeset | Atomic_fZQd2: Also tried this yet?
[21:16] <well_laid_lawn> from the live cd you should be able to mount the os and check the kernel log too
[21:18] <quantzbeats> well_laid_lawn: where's the kernel log? in /var/log ?
[21:18] <quantzbeats> ubottu: will try that now
[21:19] <well_laid_lawn> yep in /var/log
[21:22] <quantzbeats> ok will check after work.
[21:23] <quantzbeats> gtg
[21:23] <quantzbeats> ttyl
[21:23] <quantzbeats> thanks