[00:11] <Shane> hi
[00:12] <khalid> hello world
[00:12] <khalid> new here need help and assistance with stiing up free vpn for ubunut mate on raspberry pi arm
[00:20] <eBen_peng> jim lol
[01:18] <lwizardl> whats the best way to resize a lvm without data loss? I have a hdd I want to image to a vm and the system is only using 3gb of the 186gb lvm, and then the 511mb boot partition
[01:20] <pinPoint> is there a way I can remove perl from ubuntu ant its @INC in the home user folder?
[01:20] <pinPoint> Then do a reinstall?
[01:21] <cfhowlett> pinPoint, do you need to remove the @inc only or the whole package?
[01:21] <cfhowlett> i.e. reconfigure or reinstall?
[01:22] <pinPoint> I'm really not sure. I went from 14.04 to 16.04 and something is broken during a script run
[01:22] <pinPoint> Unable to resolve external IP (501 Protocol scheme 'http' is not supported) at ./update.pl line 33.
[01:22] <hggdh> taken perl would will be... complex
[01:23] <pinPoint> Here is the .pl line: https://github.com/chandwki/DigitalOcean-DDNS/blob/master/update.pl
[01:23] <cfhowlett> pinPoint, sudo apt purge perl then navigate to your /home, enable hidden folder view, look in your .config and kill the perl configurations
[01:23] <pinPoint> kill?
[01:23] <cfhowlett> delete,
[01:24] <pinPoint> cfhowlett: this .config folder is actually named what?
[01:24] <cfhowlett> .config/perl ...
[01:24] <cfhowlett> I suppose
[01:26] <hggdh> agan, removing perl will probably remove a nice chunk of the install. Not a good idea.
[01:26] <pinPoint> man, how do I fix this mess. :/
[01:26] <cfhowlett> pinPoint, ^^^
[01:27] <cfhowlett> if I understand the error, it points to an external IP setting ... Digital Ocean if I read this right
[01:27] <cfhowlett> so take it up with DO
[01:30] <hggdh> but, more simply, where is the use HTTP::request (or whatever is the name f the package)?
[01:31] <pinPoint> hggdh: line 33 or just before it in that link above ^^^
[01:31] <hggdh> pinPoint: still do not see the "use HTTP::request;"
[01:32] <pinPoint> my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => "http://ipinfo.io/ip");
[01:32] <hggdh> pinPoint: on line 26 you *used* a method from a class. Where is the class package *declared* to Perl?
[01:33] <hggdh> (which would be a "use ..." statement, like you see at the beginning of the script)
[01:34] <pinPoint> not sure hggdh, I'm using a suggested script from DO. It work in 14.04 before 16.04
[01:36] <hggdh> pinPoint: well, the script is missing declaring this class/package
[01:38] <pinPoint> hggdh: I'm not sure, not a perl guru.
[01:39] <cfhowlett> there is a #perl channel.  perhaps they would know more?
[01:45] <lwizardl> is there any way to create an image of a drive without the empty space? reason why is I have a 200gb hdd that is only using about 4gb of space that I want to create an image of to make it a vm
[01:52] <xqb> this has never happened to me, my laptop just shut down on its own, how can I know what happened? it was fully charged
[01:55] <EriC^^> xqb: check /var/log/kern.log
[01:56] <xqb> EriC^^: I can't really tell myself, here's the log if you wanna look http://termbin.com/sfx2
[01:58] <EriC^^> xqb: nothing there
[01:58] <EriC^^> xqb: it just crashed recently?
[01:58] <xqb> EriC^^: yeah like 10 mins ago at most
[01:59] <EriC^^> xqb: anything in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[01:59] <xqb> I was literally chatting here on IRC and it just went off
[01:59] <xqb> I thought my TV switched off
[01:59] <xqb> http://termbin.com/87dv
[02:01] <EriC^^> xqb: nothing stands out for me
[02:02] <xqb> EriC^^: :/
[02:02] <xqb> I just hope it won't happen again
[02:02] <xqb> otherwise I'd ditch both acer and ubuntu
[02:02] <xqb> because I don't know whom to blame
[02:02] <EriC^^> xqb: anything in /var/crash maybe?
[02:03] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version are you using?
[02:03] <xqb> ls -la /var/crash drwxrwsrwt  2 root whoopsie 4096
[02:03] <xqb> whoopsie?
[02:04] <xqb> I'm on XUbuntu 17.10
[02:04] <xqb> I don't have anything 'whoopsie' on my computer
[02:04] <xqb> I feel like I have an intruder
[02:04] <EriC^^> nah it's normal
[02:04] <xqb> sheesh
[02:05] <xqb> I've been using ubuntu for more than a year
[02:05] <xqb> never had a similar issue
[02:05] <xqb> hell...
[02:05] <xqb> thanks for the help though.
[02:05] <EriC^^> no problem
[02:06] <EriC^^> everything crashes
[02:06] <xqb> you think so?
[02:06] <xqb> well at least I'd appreciate to know what went wrong
[02:06] <xqb> I mean...
[02:07] <xqb> if it's going to switch my computer while I'm working on something important
[02:07] <slicktux> 0.0
[02:07] <xqb> I need to know where to go
[02:07] <xqb> :D
[02:07] <EriC^^> sometimes the crash doesn't register in any logs cause it's that bad unfortunately
[02:08] <EriC^^> if you want a more solid experience i'd stick with the lts releases and avoid any ppa's or very new software
[02:08] <cfhowlett> +1!
[02:09] <xqb> :/
[02:09] <EriC^^> cant have it all :P
[02:18] <Draconiator> Question, on Xubuntu, how do you move themenubar up top?  I wanna move it to the bottom and make it thicker.
[02:20] <cfhowlett> Draconiator, move it?  nope.  best option: make a new panel at the top, add all your apps then delete the one below
[02:21] <slicktux> Hello all, I've tried installing Kubuntu from both a USB and DVD and each time I reboot after install the system fails and it goes into grub rescue; the first time (with the USB) it was complaining that i386 was not found (I tried manually copying it to boot but that did not work), and now it is complaining about "invalid arch-independent ELF magic". . .any ideas?
[02:22] <cfhowlett> did you use the 32 bit ubuntu?  cause i386 is 32 bit
[02:22] <slicktux> cfhowlett: No, I am using 64 bit. .
[02:22] <cfhowlett> is your machine 32 bit or 64 bit
[02:22] <slicktux> 64 bit.. .
[02:23] <slicktux> Let me double check my ram; but the CPU is 64 bit and the LiveUSB and LiveCD boots Kubuntu just fine. . .
[02:24] <zumba_addict> Good evening folks. Which library provides sha1.so?
[02:25] <snadge> im looking for some clarification on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown
[02:25] <snadge> "No microcode updates are currently available for AMD or Intel, which means Spectre v2 is still unmitigated out of the box on Ubuntu on x86 CPUs. "
[02:26] <slicktux> cfhowlett: yea, I got 6GB of ram. . .
[02:26] <snadge> but it also states further down that if you enable proposed you'll get a retpoline patched kernel and a gcc with retpoline support
[02:26] <cfhowlett> slicktux, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965810
[02:27] <cfhowlett> slicktux, was this a new install or update?
[02:27] <slicktux> cfhowlett: new install.
[02:27] <snadge> i guess my question is.. is there any point to installing the retpoline patches from proposed.. and doesnt some parts of userspace need to be recompiled with that compiler for it to be effective.. and does retpoline require microcode update to be effective?
[02:28] <snadge> or will the microcode update just minimise the performance impact of that
[02:29] <slicktux> cfhowlett: Thanks for the link; I will try that now; If it works than that is just funny; the installer is obviously bugging out and not installing grub onto my drive. . .so I have to do it manually; W T F
[02:29] <slicktux> XD
[02:32] <slicktux> Geez, this dvd has slow read speeds.
[02:32] <slicktux> 8S
[02:34] <snadge> this is more a channel for supporting noobs than discussing complex exploit mitigations like meltdown and spectre? :P
[02:35] <cfhowlett> this is a volunteer channel.  be patient.  for instant answers, look to Canonical paid support options
[02:36] <snadge> im really greatful that ubuntu has published a statement regarding those vulnerabilities, and the current status and timeline etc, and nice tables showing kernel versions and mitigation levels etc
[02:37] <snadge> but it just makes me want to know more :P
[02:42] <slicktux> cfhowlett: I appreciate your help; I've determined that it was my install medium; I am going to reinstall. . .
[02:43] <cfhowlett> best of luck.
[02:43] <slicktux> Thanks!
[03:04] <phillijw> hey mates. I have 16.04 installed. I have some shit radeon card and I'm trying to enable vsync/buffering because I have some tearing. How can I do this?
[03:06] <slicktux> cfhowlett: Yea, it was the install medium; The first USB was old so it must have corrupted some data while dd'ing into it; the DVD drive on the laptop is shotty so it must have been misreading the DVD medium
[03:07] <cfhowlett> so ... we happy?  Vincent!  We happy?
[03:07] <slicktux> yer!
[03:07] <slicktux> tyty
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !happy2help!
[03:07] <phillijw> a/s/l
[03:07] <slicktux> thanks again!
[03:07] <phillijw> no prob bob
[03:10] <fx250_> Is it possible to give ACL permissions to a user to change file permissions (e.g. ugo+rwx) on a directory/file?
[03:11] <fx250_> For example, if /var is owned by root, but set ACL for user "user" rwx or something else, would it then be possible for user "user" to chmod ugo+rwx /var?
[03:35] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> hey guys whats the command to reset your Nick password pls
[03:35] <phillijw> type /msg nickserv help
[03:35] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> thanks
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[03:45] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> what site would you guys use to share an image via link (like pastebin but for screenshot) pls
[03:46] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> found one all g
[03:49] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> id like to create a bash script to login to my vpn service (beginner level) can anyone help with that the following image show the commands i enter to get to the point of password entry(root password promt)
[03:49] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> https://imgur.com/rCOteok
[03:52] <segersjerry> nojjjjjjjjjjj, Have you tried expect?
[03:53] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> my knowledge of script creation is very minimal
[03:53] <segersjerry> nojjjjjjjjjjj, last time I tried something like that, all I had to do was run autoecpect, do what I wanted it to do for me, and poof, I had a working script.
[03:53] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> i get stuck at the point of password
[03:54] <segersjerry> typo: autoexpect
[03:54] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> not sure of what the line would look like to prompt for password
[03:55] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> would it be pwd="enter password"
[03:55] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> or print pwd
[03:55] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> or expect pwd
[03:55] <segersjerry> expect is completely different from bash
[03:56] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> re auto expect thankd
[03:56] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> s
[03:56] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> how so
[03:56] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> does it require sudo apt-get install autoexpect
[03:57] <segersjerry> not autoexpect, expect. autoexpect should be part of expect package.
[03:58] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> could you provide an example please
[03:58] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> or link to explanation if its not part of bash then how would i find a manual
[03:59] <segersjerry> sudo apt install expect                 then use autoecpect to make the script.
[03:59] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> okay
[04:00] <segersjerry> NASA made it years ago, your tax dollars at work
[04:01] <segersjerry> just checked, type exit when finished
[04:03] <phillijw> i'm running unity. How do I restart gdm or whatever is running so that I can reload my xorg configs?
[04:04] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> assuming iv installed expect would my script look like this
[04:04] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> https://imgur.com/eLllzwH
[04:06] <segersjerry> nojjjjjjjjjjj, autoexpect writes the script for you. just run autoexpect, do what you want it to remember, then end the recording with "exit"
[04:07] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> o i see
[04:07] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> thank you
[04:11] <sajan> hello everyone, the "connect to server" is missing from ubuntu 17.10, how can one get it back. Any pointers will be appreciated
[04:13] <sajan> actually I am looking to connect into my raspberry pi
[04:14] <sajan> from the ubuntu 17.10 through a gui
[04:19] <neildugan> I have a problem... I think I am running out of storage to install packages ... "apt-get -f install" is erroring because it running out of storage... but apt is not allowing me to remove packages to make room
[04:20] <rijack> what does it say when you run apt remove <some package>
[04:21] <segersjerry> insert rm -rf joke
[04:26] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> thanks for expect it will be handy for many applications-i would also like to learn the un-automated way for my own learning curve-this is what i have come up with please critique and suggest improvements and variations to make more versatile (other config files within same folder"vpn'
[04:26] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> https://imgur.com/E6IE6RQ
[04:28] <segersjerry> nojjjjjjjjjjj, wish I could help, the only thing I see is you should make the cd command use the full path so that you can move the script file and still have it work.
[04:28] <neildugan> rijack, "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[04:28] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> got it
[04:30] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> thank you
[04:30] <segersjerry> np
[04:34] <hggdh> neildugan: which filesystem is full?
[04:35] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> are there other ways to achieve the same outcome via bash script reason i ask is because BloqueNegro wrote a script for me yesterday but i dare not run it prior to understanding it it looked very very different to my basic script id look it up but have no idea where it was stored after downloading it iv looked every where its gone now so i cant search the commands within
[04:36] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> question being are there other ways to perform the same task as what im doing in my script
[04:37] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> it was a bash script not python or anythin
[04:37] <neildugan> the one with '/' on it 751M free, but /home etc are on a separate drive
[04:40] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone on this channel that has ever helped me-I appreciate it more than words can express-Im really enjoying linux and love that i hardly ever need to revert to windows-im off now
[04:42] <hggdh> neildugan: so there is a lot of space -- 700MB should be enough. What was the exact output of apt upgrade? Use pastebin, please
[04:44] <strive> nojjjjjjjjjjj: :)
[04:47] <neildugan> hggdh, https://pastebin.com/PYaFncp6
[04:48] <rijack> hggdh: neildugan: also not to state the obvious but the first thing I usually with apt issues is "sudo apt update" then I check for a dpkg lock file
[04:48] <neildugan> rijack, I did an 'apt update' didn't fix anything
[04:50] <hggdh> neildugan: ah, /is 90% full
[04:52] <neildugan> hggdh, yes -- still 751M free
[04:53] <hggdh> neildugan: try running apt-get autoclean, and see how much space is releases
[04:54] <hggdh> neildugan: this will delete old, obsolete packages from the local apt archive
[04:54] <neildugan> hggdh, already done that.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> neildugan, are you getting "disk full" messages
[04:54] <neildugan> hggdh, I did a 'apt-get clean' as well
[04:55] <neildugan> cfhowlett, only when using apt
[04:55] <hggdh> neildugan: so you will have to find some way to clean up space on /
[04:56] <hggdh> neildugan: seriously, 7G for / is asking for trouble
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> neildugan: i always clean systems with bleachbit
[04:58] <neildugan> hggdh, I know it isn't much, I had some trouble a while back and that was the best I could do at that time.
[05:08] <hggdh> neildugan: still, you have to open some space on /
[05:10] <neildugan> hggdh, I tried deleting all the archived log files, but that wasn't enough
[05:10] <hggdh> neildugan: how much space is under /var/cache/apt/archive? du -sh on it will tell you
[05:11] <neildugan> what is /var/backups
[05:12] <hggdh> neildugan: backups of some system files
[05:13] <hggdh> neildugan: usually small enough not to be worth bothering with
[05:14] <neildugan> hggdh, /var/cache/apt/archives = 8.6M
[05:14] <neildugan> is it ok to remove the files in /var/backups ?
[05:14] <hggdh> neildugan: yes, it is. But how much space is it going to release?
[05:16] <hggdh> neildugan: another option: did you try apt --purge autoremove?
[05:17] <hggdh> neildugan: this will remove packages that are not being used (probably old, like kernels 2 or more versions below current)
[05:21] <neildugan> hggdh, I can't use apt to remove anything atm... it keeps asking me to do an 'apt-get -f install'
[05:21] <hggdh> neildugan: so, how many kernels in /boot?
[05:25] <neildugan> hggdh, it is using 333M ... it seems the the autoremove doesn't get rid of the file like "initrd.img-3.13.0-96-generic.old-dkms"
[05:26] <hggdh> neildugan: how many different kernel versions?
[05:30] <neildugan> hggdh, there are 4 files starting with vmlinuz
[05:32] <neildugan> hggdh, 23 matching "initrd.img-3.13.0-*.old-dkms"
[05:33] <hggdh> neildugan: please put in a pastebin BOTH (1) ls -l /boot and (2) cat /proc/version_signature
[05:34] <hggdh> neildugan: also, please add in a dpkg -l linux-\*
[05:41] <neildugan> hggdh, https://pastebin.com/suwXPK61 .... it seems that the autoremove is not at all thorough enough
[05:43] <cfhowlett> hggdh, manually delete all but the 2 most recent kernels
[05:43] <hggdh> cfhowlett: yes, it would work
[05:45] <hggdh> neildugan: OK, you got your work pretty much defined. you can try, first of all, to dpkg --purge -r all old kernel packages
[05:46] <hggdh> neildugan: alternatively, you can, as cfhowlett pointed out, rm the two oldest kernel files (-100 and -129)
[05:47] <hggdh> neildugan: and trash the old-dkms files
[05:47] <hggdh> this will probably free up enough space to apt -f install
[05:48] <hggdh> neildugan: BUT: after that, you are on your own. It will happen again.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> unless you do your spring cleaning more frequently
[05:49] <hggdh> and increase the size of /
[05:49] <cfhowlett> shouldn't need to increase / if regularly maintained.  with this kernel count, I'd guess maintenance has been done every so ... never?
[05:52] <jalt> Hi, how can I add libaacs to the VLC 3.0 snap?
[05:54] <neildugan> cfhowlett, I every time I do an 'apt update' an 'apt autoremove' get done as well... these packages shouldn't have been left installed.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> depends on which ubuntu version you have.  I think kernel removal didn't get the autoremove trigger until 14.04
[05:56] <neildugan> cfhowlett, its older than I thought it 14.04.5
[05:56] <hggdh> per the kernel he is running Trusty
[05:57] <cfhowlett> hggdh, noted.  question:  y u no upgrade to 16.04
[05:58] <hggdh> heh. Right now... no chance in hell it will succeed, not enough space
[05:59] <neildugan> hggdh, yes right.. I am going to have to get that to work.  somehow.
[05:59] <cfhowlett> eh?  download .iso, make usb, boot usb, install to current partition scheme.  no additional room needed
[06:00] <neildugan> cfhowlett, yes that would work... but first I am going to clean up as much space here as possible.
[06:00] <hggdh> cfhowlett: hah, I was thinking of do-release-upgrade...
[06:00] <cfhowlett> that would also work.  clean install is my (dubious) preference
[06:01] <hggdh> cfhowlett: no, do-release-upgrade would not, it first downloads all packages
[06:01] <cfhowlett> ah ... yes, that.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> clean install seems to be your future then
[06:02] <hggdh> and... with that... schlaffen-time
[06:02]  * hggdh traces a route to bed
[06:13] <Archi> hello world
[06:38] <neildugan> hggdh, thanks for the help, I have freed about 2G so far
[07:03] <Romantic> Is there a way to mix microphone and application sound as 1 channel in linux (a source for a recorder)?
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Romantic: whats your endgoal exactly?
[07:10] <snufft> hi guys! i've got a 16.04 install on virtualbox (win 10 host) which has decided not to show me a login screen any more. if I drop to the terminal and log in, lightdm is running and restarting it doesn't change anything (should it? I've never had to restart lightdm before) and I've also reinstalled unity, but no dice
[07:10] <snufft> would anyone know what I can try to try and get my login screen back?
[07:11] <Romantic> lotuspsychje, just want to make a demo recording of a project, recording the sounds produces by the program along with my voice overlay as I walk through the demo.
[07:11] <Romantic> I'm using Simple Screen Recorder, with it, I can have either the mic, or the system sounds, but not both
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Romantic: as in a desktop recording app?
[07:11] <SmokinGrunts> snufft I've never used virtualbox myself (kvm guy with virsh) but in lieu of that, I'd check update logs and try to pinpoint *exactly* when things b0rked
[07:12] <Romantic> what I want is a device with both the mic and the system sound
[07:12] <snufft> SmokinGrunts: thanks for the reply :) Would I find the update logs in syslog, or somewhere else?
[07:13] <SmokinGrunts> try /var/log
[07:13] <SmokinGrunts> also, no problem :)
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Romantic: perhaps try audacity?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Romantic: for desktop recording i use kazam, did you try?
[07:27] <Romantic> not familiar with kazam, should I look it up?
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | Romantic
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> Romantic: the maintainer is pretty active and they have a #kazam channel
[07:31] <ducasse> snufft: for updates, see /var/log/apt/history.log
[08:01] <mistform> this is too much like sitting on the side of a highway. everyone is coming and going. the only people who talk need directions or are a transient just looking for someone's ear to spout their nonsense
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> mistform: can we help you with something?
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> mistform: this channel is for ubuntu support, alot of users come and go in different timezones
[08:03] <XXCoder> isnt there #ubuntu-chat or something for other stuff
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> !offtopic | XXCoder yes
[08:04] <XXCoder> oh offtopic. but my link worked lol
[08:07] <XXCoder> is talking avbout ubuntu (not support) offtopic?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> XXCoder: this channel is only for support questions
[08:07] <XXCoder> ok
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> XXCoder: you are welcome to talk about ubuntu in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:08] <XXCoder> oh other one
[08:08] <dax> (or #ubuntu-offtopic)
[08:57] <azizLIGHT> when i start mining crypto with my gpu, my cpu usage goes to 50% due to X, why is this
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: mining is a heavy duty?
[08:58] <azizLIGHT> what about my igpu
[08:59] <azizLIGHT> X is trying to use the gpu? and it cant so it uses cpu?
[08:59] <azizLIGHT> is this what happening
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: htop to the rescue
[09:00] <azizLIGHT> i used htop to narrow down the cause
[09:00] <azizLIGHT> its mining
[09:00] <sreejith__> what is this "handbook" called in this terminal and what is "xenial" called https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VxwGc3tc/ubuntu-terminal.jpg
[09:00] <azizLIGHT> when i start the miner, X immediately goes to 50%
[09:00] <azizLIGHT> when i stop, X goes back to normal cpu usage
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> !hostname | sreejith__
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> sreejith__: handbook is the user, xenial the host
[09:03] <sreejith__> @lotuspsychje How to change the user
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !user | sreejith__ check users in your system options
[09:08] <sreejith__> lotuspsychje: Thank You
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> hello
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> i can't boot up , or even get to the login screen due to a PAM issue ( might be xorg as well idk )
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet5.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> ^^ this is the error that pops up in /var/log/auth.log
[09:25] <quantzbeatz> i see the xubuntu loading screen and then it just starts flashing and doesn't do anything
[09:26] <quantzbeatz> i chrooted into the system and tried rewrapping the passphares ( to my home directory ), installing kwalletmanager. and Deleting .Xauthority . none of it worked.
[09:26] <sreejith__> I changed the username but the change does not get reflected in the terminal
[09:27] <quantzbeatz> any help is appreciated
[09:28] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: what's the problem?
[09:29] <Triffid_Hunter> quantzbeatz: maybe poke around in  /etc/pam.d ?
[09:29] <quantzbeatz> i don't know much about pam. should i look for logs or?
[09:31] <quantzbeatz> .__.
[09:32] <quantzbeatz> EriC^^: idk excatly , it just happened after rebooting
[09:32] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: what happened? i just joined sorry
[09:33] <sreejith__> I tried to change the username but it is showing this error https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/C1VeTW3n/Screenshot%20from%202018-02-11%2015-00-40.png
 hello [09:25] <quantzbeatz> i can't boot up , or even get to the login screen due to a PAM issue ( might be xorg as well idk ) [09:25] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [09:25] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet5.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet5.so: cannot open shared object file: No
[09:34] <quantzbeatz> [09:25] <quantzbeatz> ^^ this is the error that pops up in /var/log/auth.log [09:25] <quantzbeatz> i see the xubuntu loading screen and then it just starts flashing and doesn't do anything
[09:35] <quantzbeatz> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/raw/mBVdTSWS
[09:35] <quantzbeatz> if it's unreadable here
[09:35] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: are you chrooted now?
[09:35] <quantzbeatz> yes
[09:36] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: what does "dpkg -l | grep libpam-kwallet" show?
[09:37] <quantzbeatz> it's empty , i don't have it installed
[09:37] <quantzbeatz> should i try installing it?
[09:38] <quantzbeatz> this is for grep libpam https://pastebin.com/raw/KwQree4j
[09:38] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: try installing libpam-kwallet4 and libpam-kwallet5
[09:38] <quantzbeatz> okay
[09:40] <quantzbeatz> alright. did it
[09:40] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: try rebooting into it
[09:40] <quantzbeatz> okay just so you know the qunatzbeatzbak is me
[09:41] <EriC^^> ok
[09:41] <quantzbeatz> because i am chrooting from the same machine as using irc
[09:41] <quantzbeatz> gonna report after reboot
[09:41] <samfreed> Morning! On artful, I cannot login using gnome/wayland, only gnome/Xorg. What gives? How do I even report this?
[09:42] <quantbeatzbak> EriC^^ still flashing -_-
[09:42] <ducasse> samfreed: don't you get the option to login to the wayland session, does it fail or what happens?
[09:42] <EriC^^> quantbeatzbak: if you login from the tty does it work?
[09:43] <EriC^^> quantbeatzbak: you never even get the gui login screen?
[09:43] <samfreed> Its just that wayland crashes and bring me back to GDM, the login screen.
[09:43] <quantbeatzbak> no gui
[09:43] <quantbeatzbak> and
[09:43] <samfreed> COmmand line is fine. Xorg i fine.
[09:43] <quantbeatzbak> tty shows "hostanem login:" but keeps flashing
[09:44] <quantbeatzbak> when i try to time after a flash the text field is cleared
[09:44] <quantbeatzbak> *type not time
[09:45] <samfreed> ducasse: wayland crashes.
[09:46] <EriC^^> quantbeatzbak: a long shot but did you try running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from the chroot to make sure it's all up to date?
[09:46] <quantbeatzbak> yes
[09:46] <quantbeatzbak> didn't work
[09:47] <quantbeatzbak> alright i'm back at the chroot environment
[09:48] <quantzbeatz> back
[09:48] <ducasse> samfreed: i don't know where wayland errors are logged, tbh, have you tried looking at logs?
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> alright there is progress , i think
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> it shows a different error:
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: pam_kwallet5(lightdm-greeter:session): (null): pam_sm_open_session
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: pam_kwallet5(lightdm-greeter:session): pam_kwallet5: open_session called without kwallet5_key
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm-greeter:session): session closed for user lightdm
[09:49] <quantzbeatz> pam_kwallet(lightdm-greeter:session): pam_kwallet: pam_sm_close_session
[09:49] <samfreed> dusasse: I am quite lost. Nothing obvious in the logs, nothing in /var/crashes
[09:53] <quantzbeatz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/=XTQNYVx4kT/ <-- auth.log
[09:55] <quantzbeatz> EriC^^: what do you think?
[09:58] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: no idea tbh
[09:58] <quantzbeatz> well ****
[09:58] <quantzbeatz> what now
[09:59] <ducasse> samfreed: i don't know what else to suggest, sorry. what kind of gpu and which driver is this on?
[09:59] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: look at /var/log/apt/history.log maybe ubuntu updated some stuff and that broke it
[09:59] <EriC^^> paste anything that looks like the last autoupdate it did before the problem started
[10:01] <samfreed> ducasse: I am not such, it is a 2012 Mac Mini with a 4K screen, which I guess is a but unusual.
[10:01] <EriC^^> quantzbeatz: upload the kern.log , "cat /var/log/kern.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:01] <samfreed> ducasse; *sure
[10:04] <samfreed> ducasse: FOUND some interestiung stuff in syslog: "org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Power.desktop[1789]: Cannot open display:"
[10:04] <ducasse> samfreed: they use amd gpus afaik, so probably the radeon driver. you can check with 'lspci -k', check 'kernel driver in use' under VGA controller
[10:04] <quantzbeatz> ok w8
[10:04] <samfreed> ducasse: the display has no name
[10:05] <samfreed> ducasse: i915
[10:06] <ducasse> samfreed: ok, so intel, not amd
[10:06] <samfreed> ducasse: It worked for a few days when artful was new, and then it stopped. Wierd.
[10:06] <quantzbeatz> EriC^^ do you want the full kern.log ??
[10:07] <ducasse> samfreed: could be a driver regression, hard to say
[10:08] <samfreed> ducasse: After a good few failure messages, it goes "gnome-session-binary[1734]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry...."
[10:10] <samfreed> ducasse: Can this be of interest? "udev-acl.ck[1728]: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed"  ?
[10:11] <ducasse> samfreed: some posts i found online seem to indicate this could be a problem in gdm or gnome-settings-daemon...
[10:11] <quantzbeatz> http://termbin.com/lyqj
[10:11] <quantzbeatz> EriC^^: ^^
[10:12] <ducasse> samfreed: you could file a bug against gnome-settings-daemon, since that's what throws the "cannot open display" error
[10:13] <samfreed> ducasse: The first "cannot open display" is from gnome-screensav, actually.
[10:15] <ducasse> samfreed: so, it could be gdm that fails to start wayland. i'm just guessing, though.
[10:16] <samfreed> ducasse: should I throw the log onto termbin for you to see?
[10:19] <samfreed> ducasse: look here: http://termbin.com/kynm
[10:26] <samfreed> ducasse: What about THIS during boot? : "[   17.542201] wl: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel" ???
[10:28] <ducasse> samfreed: that must be some other module, do you have something that uses dkms installed? what about those .bashrc errors near the top of the log, are there any problems with parsing that?
[10:31] <samfreed> ducasse: I expect them to do gracefuly ignored, as they wrote such a nice set of warnings about them...
[10:32] <samfreed> ducasse: should I get rid of the .profile and try again?
[10:32] <ducasse> samfreed: no, don't do that
[10:33] <quantbeatzbak> if all else fail , i'll just reinstall i guess
[10:33] <quantbeatzbak> *fails
[10:34] <ducasse> samfreed: can you put .bashrc on paste.ubuntu.com? 'pastebinit ~/.bashrc' should do it
[10:37] <kuba-orlik> Hi there! I'm on Ubuntu 16.10 and stopped receiving updates
[10:37] <kuba-orlik> I want to upgrade
[10:37] <ducasse> kuba-orlik: it's eol
[10:37] <ducasse> !eol
[10:37] <kuba-orlik> but do-release-upgrade says it's impossible
[10:38] <ducasse> kuba-orlik: https://askubuntu.com/questions/996768/upgrade-from-yakkety-yak-ubuntu-16-10-when-its-end-of-life/996936
[10:40] <kuba-orlik> can I just downgrade to 16.04?
[10:40] <dax> downgrades aren't officially supported. it's probably theoretically likely, but #ubuntu won't help with it
[10:40] <dax> second link in ubottu's comment says how to upgrade
[10:40] <dax> s/likely/possible/
[10:42] <ducasse> kuba-orlik: apt isn't designed to do downgrades, so if you want 16.04 do a reinstall
[10:42] <kuba-orlik> I see
[10:43] <kuba-orlik> I'm tring to follow the EOLUpgrades tutorial
[10:43] <kuba-orlik> And I don't uderstand the "Update sources.list"
[10:43] <ducasse> kuba-orlik: see also the answer in the link i gave you
[10:44] <kuba-orlik> yeah, about that
[10:44] <kuba-orlik> it says that I should "make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release"
[10:44] <kuba-orlik> by "your release"
[10:44] <kuba-orlik> do they mean my current release?
[10:45] <ducasse> yes
[10:45] <kuba-orlik> or should I change it to the one I want to upgrade to?
[10:46] <ducasse> do-release-upgrade does that for you
[10:49] <GHOST665> hi
[10:51] <xp> ciao rag
[10:51] <quantbeatzbak> EriC^^: should i wait for your answer or should i try something else O_o??
[10:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:05] <samfreed> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/=8SN7vYJgMR/
[11:07] <ducasse> samfreed: you need to edit it, on line 12 and 13 replace 'a' with 'alias'
[11:14] <geirha> you should add an interactive shell test at the top, and abort if it's not interactive. Else you may break tools like scp and rsync
[11:14] <geirha> [[ $- = *i* ]] || return 0
[11:19] <sander^home> Anyone got a source repository for firejail?
[11:20] <Mathisen> sander^home, https://github.com/netblue30/firejail
[11:22] <sander^home> Mathisen, is there a ubuntu deb mirror too maybe?
[11:22] <ducasse> !mirrors
[11:23] <Mathisen> sander^home, why not just compile and install
[11:23] <Mathisen> sander^home, 3.rd party repos is bad a bad habbit anyway
[11:29] <samfreed> ducasse: Failed again. http://paste.ubuntu.com/=4XzKmCd7QV/
[11:34] <ducasse> samfreed: sorry, i have no other ideas.
[11:34] <samfreed> ducasse: Where do I report it?
[11:35] <geirha> samfreed: add the interactive shell guard
[11:36] <geirha> [[ $- = *i* ]] || return 0    # at the top of .bashrc
[11:37] <geirha> I doubt that will fix the actual problem, but it will at least quelsh those two error messages from bash
[11:37] <samfreed> geirha: and where does the output go?
[11:38] <geirha> output?
[11:38] <samfreed> geirha: The problem seems to be connecting to the display, not the ertror messages from the shell.
[11:39] <geirha> yes, but it may cause problems in other situations if you don't have that guard
[11:40] <samfreed> Where do I report the actuall wayland failure?
[11:40] <ducasse> !bug
[11:44] <samfreed> ubottu: It is not at all clear which package is causing the crash. Gnome over wayland fails. Gnome over Xorg succeeds.
[11:44] <geirha> I'd report it against wayland. If it turns out to be a different package, the bug report will be moved accordingly
[11:45] <samfreed> OK, Thanks.
[11:45] <k_sze> What's that message that I get by default when I log into ubuntu via the terminal or ssh?
[11:46] <k_sze> You know, the one that says "Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS" ...
[11:47] <samfreed> k_sze: /etc/motd?
[11:47] <k_sze> samfreed, no, I don't think it's /etc/motd
[11:47] <k_sze> I don't even have that file.
[11:48] <samfreed> k_sze: Maybe it is output from getty?
[11:48] <geirha> It gets generated by update-motd, by running all the scripts under /etc/update-motd.d/
[11:51] <s10gopal> can anyone plz help me , after installing ubuntu 14.04.05lts my problem is solved , but i want to report that bug properly , what more info should i post ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[11:53] <k_sze> geirha: anyway. When I ssh into my Ubuntu server, I get that motd, complete with a reminder of how many packages can be updated. But I don't get that when I mosh into the server.
[11:53] <k_sze> Any idea how I can get the motd with mosh as well?
[11:56] <k_sze> Hmm, looks like it's a known issue: https://github.com/mobile-shell/mosh/issues/190
[11:57] <ducasse> s10gopal: it already is reported properly, and it is an upstream bug, not an ubuntu bug. now please stop asking about it every day.
[11:58] <s10gopal> ducasse, apw said to report it
[11:58] <s10gopal> ducasse, they need more info to fix it in ubuntu 16.04
[11:59] <s10gopal> ducasse, can you tell me how to get sos report ?, i forgot it
[11:59] <ducasse> s10gopal: it's a kernel bug, it has to be fixed there
[11:59] <s10gopal> ducasse, can you plz tell me how to get sos report ? cmd
[12:01] <ducasse> s10gopal: asking once is enough. 'sudo apt-get install sosreport'
[12:02] <s10gopal> ducasse, then?
[12:03] <ducasse> s10gopal: then what?
[12:03] <s10gopal> ducasse, how to get sos report file ?
[12:03] <s10gopal> ducasse, means .tar all in single file
[12:03] <ducasse> s10gopal: i've never used it, read the manual. 'man sosreport'
[12:05] <greedy_eti> adac: hi
[12:14] <greedy_eti> skraito: привет
[12:14] <greedy_eti> M144: привет
[12:16] <akik> s10gopal: good that you found that the battery doesn't drain on a 14.04 system. this will help in finding the problem in newer versions
[12:16] <s10gopal> akik, can you plz tell me what more logs i should post ?
[12:18] <ecormier> sigh....
[12:21] <s10gopal> !ops
[12:22] <ecormier> s10gopal: problem?
[12:22] <wodim> hahahaa
[12:22] <s10gopal> can anyone plz help me , after installing ubuntu 14.04.05lts my problem is solved , but i want to report that bug properly , what more info should i post ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646    sos report added
[12:22] <wodim> average indian
[12:22] <ecormier> no
[12:23] <s10gopal> ecormier, what more i should add?
[12:23] <ecormier> s10gopal: the only ones that can help you with that are kernel hackers... and they've already seen your reported bug upstream
[12:24] <akik> s10gopal: did somebody ask you for more logs?
[12:24] <JFox762> I'm in need of help with installing Cisco's PacketTracer....
[12:24] <ecormier> s10gopal: stop being so annoying.... maybe a ban is the only way to get you to stop, keep pressing that ops button!
[12:24] <JFox762> I'm having issues with depencies
[12:24] <s10gopal> akik, yes apw said to add more info
[12:25] <akik> s10gopal: you could join #ubuntu-kernel and ask there
[12:26] <s10gopal> akik, no one is online there
[12:26] <akik> s10gopal: ok then just wait
[12:27] <JFox762> I know this is a ubuntu room but... I figure someone can help me track down the needed dependencies and how to install them
[12:28] <s10gopal> akik, ok thx
[12:28] <JFox762> when I type "ldd ./PacketTracer7 | grep found
[12:28] <JFox762> I get
[12:29] <JFox762>  libpng12.so.0 => not found
[12:30] <akik> JFox762: maybe libpng12-0
[12:33] <akik> JFox762: absolutely libpng12-0
[12:33] <JFox762> how do I install that
[12:33] <JFox762> sudo apt installl libpng12-0?
[12:34] <JFox762> Package libpng12-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:34] <JFox762> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:34] <JFox762> is only available from another source
[12:34] <JFox762> y
[12:34] <JFox762> y
[12:34] <JFox762> y
[12:34] <akik> JFox762: which ubuntu version?
[12:35] <akik> heh
[12:36] <JFox762> ?
[12:36] <JFox762> ubuntu 17.10
[12:37] <akik> !info libpng artful
[12:39] <akik> !info libpng16-16 artful
[12:40] <akik> JFox762: i think the application hasn't been compiled for 17.10
[12:41] <JFox762> i uess i got disconnected there
[12:41] <akik> JFox762: in some cases soft linking the current so version to libpng12.so.0 *might* work. no guarantees
[12:42] <akik> JFox762: i think the application hasn't been compiled for 17.10
[12:42] <JFox762> soft linking?
[12:42] <JFox762> like ln?
[12:42] <akik> JFox762: i meant sym linking
[12:42] <JFox762> Ugh
[12:42] <JFox762> This is what I get for installing 17.10
[12:43] <JFox762> instead of 16.04lts
[12:43] <akik> JFox762: libpng12-0 is for 16.04
[12:43] <JFox762> What do you mean?
[12:43] <JFox762> according to my apt policy...  it is installed
[12:43] <JFox762> libpng16-16 shows up as installed
[12:44] <akik> !find libpng12-0 artful
[12:44] <akik> JFox762: libpng12-0 is for 16.04
[12:44] <JFox762> ok
[12:45] <JFox762> so... there is no way to install libpng12 in order to satisfy the PacketTracer dependency?
[12:46] <akik> JFox762: try the symlink trick if it works
[12:47] <JFox762> how do i do that?
[12:47] <JFox762> I'm not really well versed in how symlinking works
[12:49] <ecormier> JFox762: run: locate libpng to make sure you don't already have the file somewhere (I have it installed from a snap here)
[12:49] <JFox762> uhh
[12:49] <JFox762> how do i locate that?
[12:49] <akik> JFox762: maybe it's better to install 16.04 then
[12:49] <ecormier> locate libpng | grep libpng12.so.0
[12:51] <ecormier> it's part of my spotify snap here...
[12:51] <JFox762> i found that file in several locations
[12:51] <JFox762> i found libpng12.so.0
[12:52] <JFox762> should I just copy that file into the PacketTracer's lib folder?
[12:52] <akik> JFox762: where was the so file?
[12:52] <ecormier> ok so: sudo ln -s /snap/core/3748/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
[12:52] <ecormier> but replace the first path with YOUR path found
[12:52] <JFox762> /snap/discord/ etc etc etc
[12:53] <JFox762> uhhh /snap/hexchat/ etc etc etc
[12:53] <JFox762> /snap/minecraft/ etc etc
[12:53] <JFox762> the lib folders for those various programs basically
[12:54] <akik> interesting that the lib files are from 16.04 in the snap system
[12:55] <brainwash> isn't that how snaps work?
[12:55] <JFox762> stupid question, when I do a "CP location location". Uhh is the first place the From ? and second location is the "To"?
[12:56] <brainwash> yes
[12:56] <JFox762> now you all know how much of a n00b i am :)
[12:58] <JFox762> odd
[12:59] <JFox762> It gave me an error when I tried to run ./PacketTracer7 <----
[12:59] <JFox762> but now it works when I just type PacketTracer
[13:00] <akik> that's pretty nice solution for running older apps
[13:00] <JFox762> https://pastebin.com/FbUbq75A
[13:00] <JFox762> the cp of libpng12.so.0 from other app libs worked
[13:00] <JFox762> Packettracer is running now :)
[13:03] <JFox762> i cant tell you how many people think PacketTracer is a Wireshark-like application,
[13:04] <JFox762> as opposed to being a Cisco router/switch emulator for educational purposes
[13:04] <JFox762> I'm studying for a Cisco CCNNA Routing and Switching cert :D
[13:05] <JFox762> I'm so happy I finally got it running. Maybe I won't have to buy actual routers/switches afterall
[13:06] <JFox762> actually, more accurately, Packet Tracer isn't an emulator... it is a simulator.
[13:07] <Amichai> hey all
[13:08] <troozers> Hi all, has anyone gotten nvidia SLI working with Ubuntu 17.10?
[13:09] <Amichai> I have an ubuntu 16.04 client configured to login Active Directory users via SSSD. Is there a way to show their real name in the LightDM User History?
[13:10] <JFox762> Now I just need to figure out how to use it :D
[13:10] <JFox762> luckily cisco has free tutorials on how to use packettracer
[13:10] <JFox762> anyways,... thanks for all the help! :)
[13:11] <Amichai> Also, what are the optimum mount options in /etc/fstab for mounting  /home from a network server via NFS? the default causes random hangs of the client machine...
[13:23] <frad> sound problem: I can listen to music with my headphones, but if I plug them out, there is no sound, even if the sound applet shows me the bar as not muted
[13:23] <frad> xubuntu 17.10 64 bits
[13:28] <CryptoSiD> Hi everyone, when i run this command manually it work fine: "mysqldump --single-transaction nextcloud > /root/backup/nextcloud/databases/nextcloud_`date +"%Y%m%d_%H%M%S"`.sql" but when its ran by cron i get this error: /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[13:28] <CryptoSiD> any idea whats wrong?
[13:29] <geirha> CryptoSiD: yes, % is special in crontab, you must escape it. \%
[13:30] <geirha> See  man 5 crontab  for what % means
[13:30] <CryptoSiD> ho its that simple! thank you
[13:31] <Nozarashi> Hi Everyone
[13:36] <tradewinds> All of the sum files that are posted to http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ are failing verification.
[13:38] <pos> is there an "official" ppa for getting a recent ffmpeg? like deb-multimedia
[13:42] <broftkd> bom dia!
[13:42] <broftkd> alguem fala portugues?
[13:44] <xqb> !portugues > broftkd
[13:44] <xqb> !english > broftkd
[14:08] <archertemptemp> :-D
[14:09] <archertemptemp> :-P
[14:09] <cybornaut> hi all
[14:10] <archertemptemp> hi
[14:11] <archertemptemp> ask #freenode
[14:15] <Amis> Hello! I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 (MATE). I'm not sure if this is MATE specific so I try here: while I'm typing the touchpad gets disabled. Is this default behaviour? Can I turn it off? (ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad)
[14:17] <Amis> My synclient output if it is related: https://paste.ubuntu.com/=6xZxVQmFzX/
[14:19] <ecormier> it shows the touchpad is off: TouchpadOff             = 1
[14:19] <geirha> It's probably to meantt for laptop touchpads that are right below the keyboard, to avoid accidentally tapping it while typing on the keyboard
[14:19] <ecormier> must be a setting in mate somewhere
[14:19] <Amis> ecormier, I'm not sure about synclient as this is not a Synaptics touchpad but I have no idea what to list
[14:19] <Amis> So maybe it's not even related
[14:20] <Amis> geirha, yea but it is seriously interfering with my... everything
[14:26] <wanglifeng> !FlipMoran The Hacker's Guide to Python (2014) - Julien Danjou.pdf
[14:35] <nimitz> hi, anyone maybe know why starting lightdm on a system with just a amd gpu plugged in removes nvidia binaries?
[14:40] <ecormier> nimitz: I don't know the answer, but if you only have amd, why do you care that it removes nvidia stuff?
[14:40] <nimitz> i dont, as part of the install process i remove the nvidia gpu
[14:41] <ecormier> sounds like a victemless crime :)
[14:41] <ecormier> victimless**
[14:42] <nimitz> not really. I want to use it.
[14:43] <ecormier> without an nvidia card present, how?
[14:43] <nimitz> like I said it's part of the install process: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1005159/setting-up-cuda-on-nvidia-and-amd-gpu-system-starting-lightdm-removes-nvidia-bi
[14:44] <nimitz> i should have mentioned, 'cuda install process"
[14:44] <ecormier> ahhh gotcha
[14:48] <mg> hi
[14:49] <Guest44231> hi
[14:49] <Guest44231> hi my brothers
[14:50] <ecormier> hi
[14:51] <Guest44231> What we have for today?
[14:51] <Guest44231> welcome
[14:51] <ecormier> if you have an ubuntu support question please ask
[14:51] <ecormier> this channel is not for chatting, see #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:52] <iresf> hello i have a physical interface ethernet and a wirles card is it possible to boding them in ubuntu  ?
[14:53] <Guest44231> I believe so
[14:53] <ecormier> boding?
[14:54] <iresf> ecormier : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[14:54] <ecormier> bonding...
[14:54] <iresf> yes
[14:54] <ecormier> now the question makes sense
[14:55] <iresf> my laptop has two ethernet  : eno1 and wlo1
[14:58] <natmal> Hello! Is there any way to get unattended-upgrades to email me when reboots are needed without emailing me for every upgrade?
[15:06] <ducasse> natmal: alternative solution - create a cron job that emails you the contents of /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs if it exists
[15:07] <CalicoFlows> Do I need to install any additional software to easily setup a VPN connection or do I need to choose a VPN provider that supplies an Ubuntu client?
[15:08] <ducasse> CalicoFlows: many providers support openvpn and/or ipsec
[15:09] <CalicoFlows> ducasse, I installed OpenVPN from discover but nothing happens when I open it?
[15:09] <ecormier> CalicoFlows: better to use ubuntu's builtin vpn clients... that way they get updated automatically
[15:09] <s10gopal> how to install amd drivers with gui on ubuntu 14.04
[15:10] <CalicoFlows> ecormier, what is the package name that I should be using?
[15:10] <s10gopal> amd r5 m 430
[15:10] <ducasse> CalicoFlows: run it from a terminal, it's not a gui program
[15:10] <ecormier> depends on what the vpn server is using, for my schools vpn I need openconnect, but that could be different for you
[15:11] <ecormier> I'm also using NM to manage my vpn connection... no cli, just point and click
[15:14] <CalicoFlows> Is there a GUI option for OpenVPN?
[15:15] <ecormier> yes search for openvpn networkmanager
[15:15] <CalicoFlows> I find the terminal a bit confusing, I like to visually confirm what I am doing.. :))
[15:15] <ecormier> network-manager-openvpn
[15:16] <ecormier> or even better: network-manager-openvpn-gn
[15:16] <ducasse> and network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[15:16] <ecormier> ^for the gnome gut
[15:16] <ecormier> ducasse: that package doesn't exist
[15:16] <crond> network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[15:16] <crond> is what its called
[15:16] <ecormier> sorry, the line was cut off here :)
[15:17] <ecormier> right you are
[15:17] <CalicoFlows> it seems that I have both packages installed but when I type the package name in terminal I get: network-manager-openvpn-gnome: command not found
[15:17] <CalicoFlows> How do I find out what I should use to open it
[15:18] <ducasse> CalicoFlows: it's an nm plugin, you don't run it by itself like that
[15:18] <ecormier> CalicoFlows: it's where you normally go to connect to the net
[15:19] <CalicoFlows> So maybe it came with OpenVPN, I suppose but I cannot see any changes in my network manager, maybe I have to reboot?
[15:19] <ecormier> settings - connect - vpn
[15:20] <ecormier> settings - network
[15:20] <CalicoFlows> https://i.imgur.com/2mDbtYo.png
[15:21] <CalicoFlows> I'll reboot
[15:21] <ecormier> not sure where to find it in there, I'm on gnome here
[15:21] <saeid> hi
[15:22] <CalicoFlows> I can't see a VPN option, stil...
[15:23] <ecormier> CalicoFlows: which DE is that (distro?)
[15:23] <CalicoFlows> Kubuntu 17.10
[15:24] <ecormier> CalicoFlows: maybe this will help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/816641/kubuntu-16-04-plasma-5-connect-to-vpn
[15:27] <CalicoFlows> Nice. Found it. Not that regular-people-friendly though :) Right, so now when I go about chosing a VPN provider, all I need is that is OpenVPN compatible, correct?
[15:28] <s10gopal> is amd r5 m430 supported in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:30] <oerheks> s10gopal, i think you know the answer already ..
[15:30] <oerheks> not at this moment: https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Video-Display-and-Touch/AMD-radeon-R5-M430-Graphic-Driver-Not-available-for-Ubuntu/td-p/5937582
[15:32] <mrchairman> Whats your favorite terminal irc client?
[15:33] <oerheks> mrchairman, please don't poll, use the one you like best?
[15:33] <mrchairman> sorry man
[15:33] <mrchairman> I was asking cause I was hoping someone had something I had never heard/seen before
[15:35] <ecormier> mrchairman: irssi
[15:35] <oerheks> mrchairman, this page may be a help, stand-alone app or in a terminal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:35] <ecormier> oerheks: sorry, didn't see your message before responding
[15:36] <oerheks> ecormier, he could get 1525 different answers :-D
[15:36] <ecormier> :)
[15:37] <ecormier> I doubt there are that many... basically 2: irssi and weechat
[15:37] <oerheks> jups, for tty that is
[15:37] <ecormier> he did say terminal
[15:46] <alca> I wanna set up a proxy that I'm going to connect all my devices to, and I'm wondering if it is possible to also set that server to recieve all the files I am downloading on those devices automatically? I really would like avoiding to having to download the files to my devices and then moving them to the server. I would like the downlads to be just redirected to my home server so that I can avoid downloading it on the networks I'm currently on(outside my LAN),
[15:46] <alca> and also avoid saving them to those devices. More or less like a seedbox works... Any idea where I can find info on someethething like that?
[15:47] <akik> alca: squid is a web proxy that you can use for it
[15:47] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/squid.html
[15:48] <alca> Thanks! Ill check that out ;>
[15:50] <sigurdson> Maybe someone here can answer this question: I want to add a GNU public licence to a project i am working on. How do i add (what filename) a GNU licence that allow people to use the code in the project (open source), but not redistribute it without asking for permission first?
[15:51] <ducasse> sigurdson: that's really not an ubuntu question, try #ubuntu-offtopic or find a channel with !alis
[15:51] <ducasse> !alis
[15:52] <sigurdson> ok, sorry
[15:56] <jcarey9149> My system won't boot the 4.13.0-32 kernel.  It boots 4.13.0-31 fine (that's what I'm running on now).  The non-booting kernel says something about lvmetad.  I've got an encrypted logical volume, so I don't think I can get any logs.  How do I go about troubleshooting this?
[16:23] <ruck4444> any system admin here?need some help with a small task will pay in btc thanks pm me
[16:24] <ducasse> ruck4444: wrong channel
[16:29] <techneeded1> any system admin here?need some help with a small task will pay in btc thanks pm me
[16:30] <oerheks> currently we accept cookies only ...
[16:30] <ducasse> techneeded1: this is still the wrong place to ask for that
[16:30] <oerheks> !cookie
[16:37] <Scoop7> https://kopy.io/OJC5P <-- any ideas how to resolve this, that the second process would be owned by a non root as well ?
[16:41] <TJ-> Do we have a command-line tool in the archives that can handle id3 v2.4 metadata tags ?
[16:42] <s10gopal_> TJ :)
[16:42] <s10gopal_> TJ-, ubuntu 14.04.05 solved my problem
[16:42] <ducasse> TJ-: perhaps beets?
[16:43] <s10gopal_> TJ-, can you plz help me in installing fglrx ? i think it is supported on 14.04
[16:45] <ioria> s10gopal_, not with the xenial hwe
[16:46] <s10gopal_> ioria, not with ubuntu 14.04.05 ?
[16:46] <ioria> nope
[16:47] <TJ-> s10gopal_: I don't deal with the proprietary drivesr. If 14.04 has solved the issue (I wonder if that is due to the kernel version) then it'd make sense to test some mainline kernel builds to find out precisely where the problem was introduced - that should make it easier for kernel developers to pinpoint and fix it
[16:48] <oerheks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/mid3v2.1.html -- mid3v2  is  a Mutagen-based replacement for id3lib's id3v2. It supports ID3v2.4 and more frames
[16:48] <s10gopal_> TJ-, i tried old kernel on ubuntu 16.04 LTS buy my laptop became super laggy , cpu use os single core was 99%
[16:48] <oerheks> fglrx for AMD  r5 m430  ???
[16:49] <s10gopal_> yes
[16:49] <oerheks> not sure that is supported, that amd card should run openradeon in 16.04
[16:49] <TJ-> s10gopal_: right, so look at the good kernel you have on 14.04 and install the nearest, later, version from the kernel team's mainline repo, and repeat until you hit the regression. That way you can report the last working/girst broken kernel versions.
[16:50] <s10gopal_> TJ-, i'm on 4.4.0-31-generic
[16:50] <TJ-> ducasse: hmmmm, beets looks a bit heavyweight. Seems like the main problem is the primary simple command-line tools depend on id3lib3.8.3 which was last updated in 2003, and never supported id3v2.4
[16:51] <TJ-> ducasse: seems like the library that does support v2.4 is libid3tag0, but most of the tools that depend on it seem to be GUI... I'm working through the list :)
[16:54] <ducasse> TJ-: beets was just the first thing that came to mind, as it handles so much stuff (but it is heavyweight, yes)
[16:54] <s10gopal_> TJ-, someone told me the problem started from 4.8.*
[16:54] <s10gopal_> !ping
[16:56] <s10gopal> TJ-, someone told me the problem started from 4.8
[16:57] <s10gopal> !ping
[17:08] <D311> hi
[17:15] <D311> welcome
[17:24] <s10gopal> TJ-, which ver i should try?
[17:25] <hggdh> s10gopal: as apw asked you, you should identify the kernel that started causing you problems. You state you found 4.4 did not have the problem, but you did NOT find which kernel introduced it
[17:26] <hggdh> s10gopal: if your laptop gets slow with kernel x.y.z, that's unfortunate, but does not matter for your bug (it is NOT a battery drainage issue)
[17:27] <raidghost> leftyfb: Most stable, Debian or Ubuntu?
[17:27] <hggdh> s10gopal: so: you now know that 4.4 does not have issues. try now 4.5, then 4.6... until you find one that causes drainage
[17:28] <raidghost> upgrading perl and upgrading cpan on ubuntu was pain in the *. Errosr and brick
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !latest | raidghost
[17:28] <james_brown> how do i open bash on ubuntu?  I tried typing "bash" in the shell but nothing happens.  I couldnt find an answer on google either
[17:29] <hggdh> s10gopal: THEN you know the last good kernel, and the first bad kernel; then it is a question of looking at different updates from last good to first bad, until re reach a point where bisecting can actually be performed
[17:29] <akik> james_brown: if you installed ubuntu using the defaults, you're already using bash
[17:29] <hggdh> s10gopal: go and try it, and find these kernel versions. Hearsay does not help here.
[17:30] <james_brown> akik: this says im using Dash and not Bash ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[17:30] <s10gopal_> hggdh, how to download them ? should i stick with ubuntu 14.04 or install ubuntu 16.04 then try ? it can be ubuntu 16 that is causing the problem?
[17:30] <hggdh> s10gopal: finally, two points: (1) be patient. The fact YOU are affected by a bug does NOT make it important (and people do have to sleep, or work, or have weekends);
[17:30] <s10gopal_> hggdh, someone said the problem is caused by kernel 4.8 onwards
[17:31] <akik> james_brown: that applies if you changed your user shell to either /bin/sh or /bin/dash
[17:31] <hggdh> s10gopal_: (2) if you call !ops again for nothing, I will kick you out of the channel.
[17:31] <hggdh> s10gopal_: this is hearsay. YOU have to check it
[17:31] <s10gopal_> hggdh, sorry , i was trying that cmd
[17:32] <hggdh> s10gopal_: np, you were not. You were trying to get someone to answer you.
[17:32] <james_brown> akik: it seems like I have both directories: /bin/sh and /bin/dash
[17:33] <akik> james_brown: those are not directories, but files
[17:33] <james_brown> akik: yeah mb
[17:33] <hggdh> s10gopal_: you can kep on 14.04, and start trying every mainline kernel released after your current kernel
[17:33] <james_brown> akik: I actually have bash, sh and dash
[17:34] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: For some reasons after upgrade of perl and cpan there is no support for json
[17:34] <akik> james_brown: when you start bash, it doesn't give you anything back. you can see if you're using bash with: echo $SHELL
[17:35] <james_brown> akik: it returns /bin/bash which probably means I'm using bash
[17:35] <hggdh> s10gopal_: you can even jump some versions -- if, after jumping to (say) 4.8 you see the problem, then you know the issue is between (say) 4.4 and 4.8. And you can go and try a kernel in the middle
[17:35] <james_brown> akik: thanks for the help :D
[17:35] <s10gopal_> hggdh, i should try 4.5 then 4.6 or 4.5.1 then 4.5.2 ?
[17:35] <hggdh> s10gopal_: and rinse and repeat, until you have a good kernel and the very next kernel released is bad
[17:36] <hggdh> s10gopal_: I would personally go binary search
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: best way to solve your issue, re-ask your problem with all details, ubuntu version kernel version, what did you do?
[17:45] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: had to install HTTP::Cache::Transparent to make a XMLTV EPG grabber to work propperly. Tried to install with cpan. the installer told me that i had to have the latest version to install that module. So i thought sudo cpan upgrade. and after that it seems to brick. Running 16.04. 4.13.0-32-generic #35~16.04.1-Ubuntu
[17:47] <lee_> I just purchased an ultrawide monitor and new video card to run 3480 x 1600. Now I need a way to create keyboard shortcuts to set window locations and sizes (i.e. 1/3 scren, 1/4 screen). Is there a build of Ubuntu that has a window manager app that will do this? If no app is available, what is the best Ubuntu for PyGTK / Quickly development for people with not a lot of coding time?
[17:47] <lee_> inxi -zxxxFc0|pastebin -> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4921a12ff8d068e8f566d2172d7e44e3
[18:03] <lee_> Anyone else here running 3480 x 1600 screen resolution? If yes, what do you use to set window locations by keyboard? Split screen produces 1740 x 1600 which is wastefully wide. Manually resizing and relocating windows wastes too much time.
[18:06] <daenerys> hey
[18:07] <bhermon> Why so quiet with all these lurker?
[18:08] <bhermon> Where can I find stable ISO images of ubuntu for free?
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !download | bhermon
[18:10] <bhermon> ubottu: many thanks, I'll see if I can handle torrent on my fedora image.
[18:11] <lee_> Does anyone know if Shutter is working on Ubuntu 17.10.1 now? It was broken on Ubuntu and Linux Mint for a while. I just got it working on Mint but looks like I'll need to switch back to Ubuntu for tweaking window management. But I don't want to trade one problem for another.
[18:14] <bhermon> OK,so fedora doesn't have a distro for torrent, where can I find a compatible rpm or other source?
[18:14] <oerheks> lee_, nope, shutter gives garbled screenshots, use gnome-screenshot instead
[18:14] <ikonia> thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:15] <rthornton> FreeBSD store network info in /etc/rc.conf;  OpenBSD stores it in /etc/hostname.emo
[18:15] <rthornton> where does ubuntu store this info?
[18:15] <ikonia> rthornton: depends what's controlling your network interfaces
[18:15] <ikonia> rthornton: is this an ubuntu desktop install ?
[18:15] <rthornton> yes
[18:15] <ikonia> rthornton: then it will be controlled via network manager by default
[18:16] <rthornton> i know
[18:16] <oerheks> bhermon, fedora comes with transmission, IIRC
[18:16] <oerheks> brb
[18:16] <bhermon> ikonia: my server is running fedora, and I want to try ubunto, so I need torrent to download an ISO, burn a DVD and load ubuntu, unless there is a better way?
[18:16] <rthornton> but whereare the parmaters stored?  cant you edit that file?
[18:16] <ikonia> bhermon: right, but you're aking for rpms - thats not ubuntu's issue
[18:16] <ikonia> rthornton: it's not a flat file format,
[18:16] <rthornton> oh ok
[18:17] <rthornton> how is it doen with ubuntu server?
[18:17] <ikonia> from the interfaces file
[18:17] <ikonia> but you shouldn't use that as the same time as network manager
[18:17] <bhermon> Ikonia: my bad, looking for source or some sort of distribution method for torrent (bit-torrent?) that is compatible with fedora.
[18:18] <SomeT> on my ubuntu droplet/server I am having issues, I set a different server up with a root login, as I get fed up of typing sudo all the time, I can't remember how I did this, so how do I do that?
[18:18] <ikonia> bhermon: try #fedora
[18:18] <rthornton> so i createda simple ubuntu server virtual machine, which was set dhcp by default.  I edited the interfaces file to create static ip, but when i rebooted, it reverted back to dhcp
[18:18] <ikonia> SomeT: just type sudo -i"
[18:18] <SomeT> ok thanks
[18:18] <SomeT> will give it a try
[18:18] <ikonia> SomeT: then you are the root user
[18:18] <bhermon> ikonia: thx, cul8r
[18:18] <SomeT> I don't remember doing that command the last time lol
[18:19] <ikonia> SomeT: probably because you tried to enable the root account
[18:19] <ikonia> rather than control your access via sudo
[18:22] <SomeT> I dont get what you mean
[18:22] <ikonia> SomeT: login, type 'sudo -i' - you're now root
[18:22] <ikonia> you won't have to type sudo again until you log out
[18:23] <SomeT> yeah thats my problem
[18:23] <SomeT> I want to log in from the root
[18:23] <ikonia> no you don't
[18:23] <SomeT> not have to type sudo -i every time
[18:23] <ikonia> you want to login as the user and become root
[18:23] <ikonia> you only have to type it once when you first login
[18:23] <SomeT> but on my other server
[18:23] <SomeT> I have done this and all is fine
[18:23] <SomeT> I just dunno how I done it lol
[18:23] <SomeT> probably I created a new user?
[18:23] <ikonia> no it's not
[18:23] <ikonia> hence why I'm not telling you to do it
[18:23] <ikonia> it' sa bad security risk
[18:23] <SomeT> um
[18:23] <ikonia> I'm telling you how to manage it properly with minimal hassle
[18:23] <SomeT> you see on my other server I was trying to set up a ssh key
[18:23] <SomeT> but gave up
[18:24] <SomeT> and then I ended up with root account
[18:24] <ikonia> so stop both of those things
[18:24] <SomeT> how would I revert this? lol
[18:24] <ikonia> login, type sudo -i
[18:24] <ikonia> thats all you need to do, it's not a big deal
[18:24] <SomeT> how do I get rid of root logon on my other account though?
[18:24] <SomeT> *other server
[18:24] <ikonia> no idea what you did, so can't comment
[18:24]  * SomeT cries
[18:25] <da5id_> *wont
[18:25] <ikonia> ?
[18:27] <SomeT> ?
[18:28] <lee_> Com check. Will someone please acknowledge seeing this?  My IRC skills are rusty so I'd like to know that I'm not talking to myself only.
[18:28] <da5id_> lee_	Com check. Will someone please acknowledge seeing this?  My IRC skills are rusty so I'd like to know that I'm not talking to myself only.
[18:28] <oerheks> SomeT, maybe this page is any help.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[18:29] <lee_> Um, is da5id_ a bot?
[18:29] <ikonia> I hope not
[18:29] <ikonia> da5id_: please respond to confirm you're not a bot
[18:29] <JackK> He has a quick eye.
[18:30] <SomeT> yes it does thank
[18:30] <lee_> Duh, I get it, you echoed my post. Thank you, I am a bit slow...
[18:31] <lee_> ikonia: at least you are seeing my comment, so I know I am not posting to devnull
[18:31] <ikonia> I can see it
[18:32] <Belial`> with the application switcher plugin in compiz, i'm trying to set "Prev Window (All Windows)" to alt+tab+left arrow, it's not letting me set the left arrow, which is how i had it set up from a previous install.
[18:33] <Belial`> is there something i'm missing here?
[18:33] <ikonia> da5id_: please confirm you're not a bit
[18:33] <ikonia> not a bot sorry
[18:33] <da5id_> ...
[18:33] <ikonia> da5id_: are you a bit please ?
[18:33] <ikonia> bot
[18:33] <ikonia> damn it
[18:33] <da5id_> no
[18:33] <ikonia> perfect, thanks
[18:33] <da5id_> but thats just what a bot would say...
[18:34] <castor00001110> hey guys, just wondering if someone could give me a bit of guidance on this error: "If Python could not import the module virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader,
[18:34] <castor00001110> check that virtualenvwrapper has been installed for
[18:34] <castor00001110> VIRTUALENVWRAPPER_PYTHON=/usr/bin/python3 and that PATH is
[18:34] <castor00001110> set properly"
[18:34] <ikonia> try #python channel
[18:35] <castor00001110> will do thanks
[18:35] <oerheks> castor00001110, easy find .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/785602/python-virtualenvwrapper-problem-running-the-initialization-hooks
[18:37] <Romantic> What solution would be recommended to mix mic and output audio in ubuntu?
[18:38] <castor00001110> oerheks, didn't quite work. I already have that solution implemented.
[18:39] <rthornton> to Ikonia:  apparently its nplan, for the ubuntu server, network administration
[18:39] <ikonia> it's what ?
[18:39] <oerheks> castor00001110, not sure you need to logout/login again to let it take effect?
[18:39] <TJ-> !info nplan | ikonia
[18:40] <castor00001110> oerheks, I did.
[18:40] <rthornton>  nplan allows you to write a service-agnostic configuration which at boot-time is processed by a generator to write the correct config for the system's network handling service, systemd-netword or network-manager are the two renders currently supported
[18:40] <ikonia> I know what nplan is, but why is that the answer to "where are the config files stored"
[18:40] <rthornton> for 17.10 it'll be by default; for 16.04 you'll need to install package 'nplan'
[18:41] <rthornton> Im just experimenting
[18:41] <ikonia> you're just cutting and pasting what TJ- said in #ubuntu-server
[18:42] <aky> whats the nplan package?
[18:42] <aky> I primarily use 16.04
[18:42] <oerheks> npan > netplan ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan
[18:43] <aky> oh ok
[18:44] <TJ-> rthornton: read "man netplan" it gives all the information required
[18:44] <rthornton> Yes;  I didnt relaize that you were in both channels
[18:44] <SomeT> I have this error on one of my servers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/204400/ssh-public-key-no-supported-authentication-methods-available-server-sent-publ but my other server has no key setup at all I think...
[18:44] <aky> Alright, thanks will do.
[18:44] <SomeT> I am only doing public key btw
[18:45] <Romantic> So nobody knows how to mix mic input and system output on ubuntu?
[18:45] <ikonia> SomeT: look in the config if key based authentication is supported
[18:45] <SomeT> what config?
[18:45] <ikonia> SomeT: what is the EXACT command you are using
[18:46] <SomeT> I am literally trying to connect using PuTTy client in windows
[18:46] <ikonia> SomeT: what user are you trying to connect as
[18:46] <ikonia> do you have pagent running with the private key loaded ?
[18:46] <rthornton> I have a fully functioning, complete desktop system on an inexpensive Dell Insipron 3655 running 16.04LTS Mate..  I have vmware installed, and I use a simple OpenBSD vm, as my ssh exposed vm,;  I figure its reasonable secure by default.  I have the ufw firewall enabled on my host Ubuntu system;  do you think there are any serious security flaws or concerns exposing a vm to outside ssh attacks?
[18:46] <SomeT> I tried default user name and root
[18:46] <SomeT> both same error
[18:46] <SomeT> pagent?
[18:46] <ikonia> SomeT: you know that the root user is disabled
[18:47] <ikonia> SomeT: how are you passing in your private key to putty without pagent ?
[18:47] <SomeT> no idea
[18:47] <SomeT> it just works on my other server
[18:47] <SomeT> I just literally can connect
[18:47] <ikonia> then how do you expect to send your key
[18:47] <SomeT> what do you mean?
[18:47] <oerheks> SomeT, maybe something related to enabling/disabling your rootaccount?
[18:47] <ikonia> SomeT: on your other server does it ask you to enter a password /
[18:47] <SomeT> basically there are no keys for either server
[18:48] <SomeT> but one server lets me login and the other does not
[18:48] <ikonia> SomeT: login as what user
[18:48] <SomeT> yes it does
[18:48] <SomeT> root
[18:48] <ikonia> I told you - root is not a valid user
[18:48] <SomeT> it lets me do it as that
[18:48] <SomeT> I set it up to let me login as root ;)
[18:48] <ikonia> SomeT: yes, on the other server
[18:48] <ikonia> SomeT: on the "new" one you just referenced it will be disabled
[18:48] <SomeT> on both I set it up like that
[18:48] <ikonia> when ?
[18:48] <SomeT> I can still access the terminals from the web consoles
[18:48] <ikonia> you didn't know how to do it a few minutes ago
[18:48] <SomeT> literally 10 mins ago
[18:49] <SomeT> someone posted a link
[18:49] <ikonia> I told you not to do that though
[18:49] <SomeT> see above
[18:49] <SomeT> yes thats your opinion
[18:49] <ikonia> ok - then I'll leave you alone then,
[18:49] <SomeT> rude
[18:49] <ikonia> no it's not
[18:49] <SomeT> but its not insecure
[18:49] <ikonia> you ask advice, I tell you it's a security hole, not to do it, you do it anyway, so I choose not to support that
[18:49] <ikonia> it's very insecure
[18:49] <SomeT> any way of doing that on either end has the same security holes
[18:49] <ikonia> password authenticated root account open on th einternet
[18:49] <SomeT> nothing is unhackable
[18:50] <SomeT> ok but I could still login as normal user on the internet
[18:50] <SomeT> then apply the same password as sudo
[18:50] <SomeT> same thing really...
[18:50] <ikonia> it's open to root on the internet
[18:50] <ikonia> why not just sudo -i as I said
[18:50] <ikonia> then why enable the root account
[18:50] <SomeT> I mean its not the issue here really, the issue is I can't connect to my server as main user or root
[18:51] <ikonia> the issue is you don't know what you are doing and dont follow advice
[18:51] <ikonia> so you can solve it on your own
[18:51] <SomeT> but what you have advised me makes no difference to my issue
[18:51] <SomeT> if so please explain how it does
[18:51] <SomeT> else I believe you are just being tedious and uninformative
[18:52] <rthornton> SomeT, OpenBSD recommends disabling root level ssh connections, period.
[18:52] <SomeT> ok
[18:52] <SomeT> but say I done that
[18:53] <SomeT> then how do I connect to my server without a key
[18:53] <SomeT> why does one server let me and the other not?
[18:53] <TJ-> SomeT: because you have configured them differently; compare the configs
[18:55] <rthornton> SomeT, I am not expert enough to advise you;  I just play a bit with a few virtual machines.  My host system is not connected via my router to any outside ssh requests;  its too risky, as i see it.
[18:57] <SomeT> where is the configs (I asked that earlier)
[18:58] <webbb> hi
[18:58] <SomeT> also I disabled root accounts
[18:58] <SomeT> hi
[18:58] <webbb> What is the minimal requirement for making a ubuntu box resolvable by Windows machines?
[18:58] <webbb> NetBIOS? WINS?
[18:58] <da5id_> youre looking for netbios
[18:58] <SomeT> configs, where is the configs?
[19:00] <SomeT> in the ubuntu operating system when connecting over SSH where are the relevant configuration config files in respect of SSH???
[19:01] <TJ-> SomeT: see "man 5 sshd_config"
[19:01] <ducasse> !patience | SomeT
[19:01] <SomeT> so /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:01] <Cipherzero> man ssh
[19:02] <SomeT> @ducasse I reworded, how rude
[19:02] <hggdh> SomeT: user SSH config is under /etc/ssh/ssh_config and ~/.ssh/config
[19:02] <SomeT> is that a directory?
[19:02] <SomeT> a command?
[19:03] <SomeT> man ssh?
[19:03] <Cipherzero> command
[19:03] <SomeT> is that my config file?
[19:03] <oerheks> SomeT, enable your *rootaccount* again, and it works :-D
[19:04] <s10gopal_> can anyone plz help me with arduino ide on ubuntu , some of my code becames invisible when i scroll
[19:04] <SomeT> i am in root
[19:04] <SomeT> change font colour
[19:05] <s10gopal_> it becomes like this
[19:05] <s10gopal_> int queue[4]={0,0,0,0},front = -1,rear = -1,var = 0
[19:05] <s10gopal_> void setup(){
[19:05] <s10gopal_>   pinMode(0,OUTPUT);
[19:05] <s10gopal_>   pinMode(1,OUTPUT);
[19:05] <s10gopal_>   pinMode(2,OUTPUT);
[19:05] <SomeT> ERM
[19:05] <SomeT> please post code on a website
[19:05] <SomeT> like http://hastebin.com
[19:06] <s10gopal_> sorry
[19:06] <SomeT> best be
[19:06]  * SomeT jokes
[19:07] <s10gopal_> my code become like this
[19:07] <booh> Weird thing... I've just do apt-get dist-upgrade and now I can't ping anything...
[19:08] <booh> $ ping 8.8.8.8
[19:08] <booh> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:08] <booh> and the cursor stay there...
[19:08] <booh> Even CTRL-C doesn't work
[19:08] <ioria> booh, 16.04 ? or 14.04 ?
[19:09] <booh> 16.04
[19:09] <ioria> booh, sudo apt full-upgrade   what it says ?
[19:09] <booh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[19:10] <booh>   python-laditools python-oauthlib python-openssl
[19:10] <ioria> booh,  upgarde then
[19:10] <ioria> *upgrade
[19:13] <booh> nothing to upgrade.
[19:17] <SomeT> so I checked both my ssh config files on both servers and no difference?
[19:17] <booh> So weird problem...
[19:19] <SomeT> what?
[19:19] <Guest18379> hello
[19:20] <ikonia> hello Guest18379
[19:20] <Guest18379> how are you?
[19:21] <ikonia> well than you, you're in #ubuntu, and IRC channel on the freenode.net network for ubuntu technical support
[19:21] <greedy_eti> hi
[19:21] <greedy_eti> aib: hi how are you
[19:21] <Guest18379> а русские здесь есть?
[19:22] <ikonia> !ru | Guest18379
[19:22] <greedy_eti> Guest18379: да
[19:22] <Guest18379> привет
[19:22] <greedy_eti> привет
[19:22] <oerheks> SomeT, then both are wrong, or your key that does not work is created with your enabled root account, there is a reason why ubuntu does not support that. and now we must fix that?
[19:22] <greedy_eti> Guest18379: как дела
[19:23] <Guest18379> да норм первый раз зашел что тут обсуждают?
[19:23] <ikonia> guys, English only please
[19:23] <greedy_eti> ikonia: ok
[19:23] <ikonia> thanks
[19:24] <SomeT> My initial server that allows me to login on PuTTy telnet client has in directory:  ~/.ssh the following files and directories: authorized_keys  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts where as the server thats not letting me in via the PuTTy telnet client has in the directory: ~/.ssh the following files and directories: authorized_keys I can conclude from this and please please correct me if I am
[19:24] <SomeT> wrong, PuTTy is not letting me logon due to a lack of a public being generated which I presume is the id_rsa.pub file as mentioned above, no idea what id_rsa is doing though, hopefully not a private key? However I guess my overall question would be how to create a public key on my server and thus would that same key need to be on my computer, because at the moment my initial server is letting
[19:24] <SomeT> me login without any public key stored on my computer, I am sorry if I was rude before but I put in the effort to do my own investigation and I hope you can aid me further in figuring out what to do next please?
[19:24] <oerheks> SomeT, my best guess: user-id changed.
[19:24] <oerheks> so, generate new keys now.
[19:24] <SomeT> it did'nt
[19:25] <SomeT> the server is letting me login
[19:25] <SomeT> but the other one is not
[19:25] <SomeT> how do I generate a public key in ubuntu like I did on my other server?
[19:25] <SomeT> and do I have to do that as root I take it?
[19:26] <greedy_eti> what is a checksum
[19:26] <oerheks> time to read the manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:26] <SomeT> ok thanks let me know when you have read
[19:26] <oerheks> !checksum
[19:27] <oerheks> it is a sanity-check-number
[19:28] <hggdh> SomeT: what oerheks proposed is that *you* read the manual
[19:28] <greedy_eti> thanks to everyone
[19:28] <SomeT> ok reading the manual
[19:28] <SomeT> now my question is, when I created those initial keys I created a passphraswe
[19:28] <SomeT> can't remember what that is
[19:28] <SomeT> actually didnt create one nevermind
[19:28] <SomeT> lol
[19:28] <analogical> is there some way I can force Ubuntu to update VLC to a newer version??
[19:29] <Grorco> analogical, add the ppas for the newer version
[19:29] <ikonia> analogical: it will only use software repos that it knows about
[19:29] <greedy_eti> how to deal with it checksum
[19:29] <ikonia> analogical: I strongly advise you only to use trusted sources
[19:29] <SomeT> whatc do I put for this: nter file in which to save the key (/home/b/.ssh/id_rsa):
[19:29] <SomeT> *Enter
[19:30] <oerheks> analogical, snap install vlc ( will bring 3.0 ) >>> http://tipsonubuntu.com/2018/02/09/vlc-3-0-released-install-ubuntu/
[19:31] <oerheks> faster than apt-get :-D
[19:31] <booh> I can't live without ping...
[19:31] <ikonia> install ping then
[19:32] <netcrime> Hello, suddenly without any changes to server I cannot start MySQL, I have checked the logs and I think it's something to do with Kernel. LOGS: https://pastebin.com/tzLsSmUR Anyone has any idea why it wont run ?
[19:32] <greedy_eti> how to make my nickname light as your
[19:32] <booh> it's installed and reinstalled... but not working anymore.
[19:32] <ikonia> define "not working"
[19:32] <ikonia> netcrime: apparmor is blocking it
[19:32] <booh>  I've just do apt-get dist-upgrade and now I can't ping anything...
[19:32] <booh> $ ping 8.8.8.8
[19:32] <booh> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[19:32] <ikonia> booh: that doesn't mean it's not working
[19:32] <ikonia> that means icmp echo is not being responded to
[19:33] <netcrime> ikonia: why it is blocking it and what is apparmor ?
[19:33] <booh> even with 127.0.0.1 the cursor just blinking after the first line... and nothing.
[19:33] <SomeT> ok so both servers now have both the same files
[19:33] <ikonia> netcrime: apparmor is a security tool that has "profiles"
[19:33] <SomeT> but one still does not let me login
[19:34] <SomeT> do I need to restart anything, the server, the ssh service itself? etc...?
[19:34] <greedy_eti> booh: hi, how to make my nickname light as your nickname ?
[19:34] <booh> Even If I try CTL-C is not responding.  I have to close the terminal
[19:34] <balleyne> I just installed Ubuntu on a Mac, using a live USB (worked fine there) and I choose "erase entire disk". The Mac was running Windows XP before (don't ask, it's a gift). When I rebooted after installation, it just says "Error loading operating system" (white text on black screen). When I hold alt (boot key) on the Mac, I just see one boot option, a hard disk labelled "Windows". Anyone know how to troubleshoot? Is this a grub thing? Not familiar with
[19:34] <balleyne> Macs...
[19:35] <netcrime> ikonia: hmm that's strange MySQL worked for months perfectly fine and I didn't install any AppArmor tool.. Anyways thanks!
[19:35] <ikonia> netcrime: I suspect an updated profile has been shipped
[19:35] <booh> greedy_eti,   /nick NEWONE
[19:35] <ikonia> netcrime: hence why you didn't "do" anything but now it's blocked
[19:35] <oerheks> SomeT, yes, as the manual explains ... /etc/init.d/ssh restart OR service ssh restart OR (systemD) service ssh restart
[19:36] <booh> greedy_eti, and register with nickserv
[19:36] <ikonia> oerheks: you're wasting your time he's already said the configs where the same, but all of a sudden "now" they are the same
[19:36] <ikonia> this implies they where not the same before when he said they where
[19:36] <ikonia> there is no attention to detail or listening
[19:37] <netcrime> ikonia: Well, yeah.. Thanks, i'll try to google how to change those profiles or something..
[19:37] <booh> I was on ubuntu 16.04 before dist-upgrade and all was working with the ping.  It's an issue since this morning after dist-upgrade.
[19:37] <greedy_eti> booh: give a link to nickserv
[19:38] <booh> greedy_eti,  /msg nickserv help
[19:38] <greedy_eti> booh: thanks!
[19:40] <greedy_eti> booh: here you can write personal message
[19:42] <greedy_eti> DrWatson: hi
[19:43] <greedy_eti> how to get out of the channel after join to other channel ?
[19:44] <booh> Why this in dmesg?  Only one nic embeded in motherboard.  I realtek.  1.146698] r8169 0000:03:00.0 eth3: renamed from eth0
[19:48] <SomeT> anyone know if there is a reason why on logging into terminal it does my keys like: ^A ^B ^C etc...
[19:48] <SomeT> I can't type normally in it
[19:48] <SomeT> dunno if I have accidently pressed something
[19:48] <greedy_eti> At me aircrack-ng does not rob, not catch o handshake. SOS!
[19:48] <SomeT> uh?
[19:48] <balleyne> Anyone familiar with booting Ubuntu on a Mac? Does it still use grub? I'm getting "error loading operating system" after installing via live USB.
[19:49] <ikonia> balleyne: as I recall it chainloads grub
[19:51] <SomeT> yeah it would seem its an ubuntu issue
[19:51] <SomeT> only one of my servers is doing it
[19:52] <balleyne> SomeT: via SSH or locally?
[20:05] <LevierMRQ> Hi.  Every time i open LibreOffice, it try to recuperate an old session abnormally ended.  aborted.  Then Office task is killed without any more warning.  Then the document it tried to recuparate, still remain in recuperation list.  No way to use office in any manner i know.  I get looped in that.  I dont need this document.  Thanks in advance, Yves, Asbestos Qc
[20:05] <layton_> hi
[20:12] <trumee> Guys, why cant i install kodi-17.6, https://pastebin.com/pNQdFkfE?
[20:12] <trumee> whats wrong with https://pastebin.com/pNQdFkfE
[20:12] <ikonia> trumee: because you have missing depdencies
[20:12] <oerheks> LevierMRQ, remove that old session from ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/registrymodifications.xcu >>  https://askubuntu.com/questions/244661/libreoffice-always-shows-recovery-process-at-startup-due-to-failing-recovery-ite  *or* delete the whole ~/.config/libreoffice folder completely
[20:13] <trumee> ikonia, how do i find out the missing dependencies?
[20:13] <oerheks> LevierMRQ, the last one is faster, but you will loose personal settings and such
[20:13] <ikonia> trumee: it's telling you on the error
[20:14] <trumee> ikonia, i dont see any package names or list of files
[20:14] <ikonia> kodi : Depends: kodi-bin (>= 2:17.6+git20171114.2125-final-0trusty) but 16.1~git20160425.2147-c6f6e0b-0 is to be installed
[20:14] <ikonia> it's actually listing the packages and versions
[20:15] <trumee> ikonia, yes but what is missing in kodi-bin (>= 2:17.6+git20171114.2125-final-0trusty)?
[20:16] <kostkon> trumee, what release are you on
[20:16] <ikonia> trumee: it's telling you the version is wrong, it's telling you what it needs and what's going to be installed
[20:16] <ikonia> that's what's missing, it's telling you clearly
[20:17] <trumee> ikonia, i was hopping it would tell me, xx and yy are the dependencies which are not available
[20:17] <ikonia> it is
[20:17] <ikonia> re-read the line I've just pasted
[20:18] <ikonia> it's telling you the exact packages and versions
[20:18] <kostkon> trumee, maybe they've stopped supporting 14.04
[20:22] <SomeT> @ikonia help me
[20:22] <ikonia> SomeT: no
[20:22] <SomeT> why my terminal typing like: ^A ^B ^C etc...
[20:22] <SomeT> I am stuck
[20:22] <eXino> Hi! Seeking some guidance in regards to changing terminal font in Ubuntu. When I do so, it adds some weird spaces and some characters overlab some other places... How do I get a font like Ubuntu to actually show as it's supposed to?
[20:22] <SomeT> I am locked out my system
[20:22] <LevierMRQ> oerheks: Fixed by following your advice.  Thanks.
[20:22] <ikonia> not my problem
[20:24] <SomeT> but do you know the answer?
[20:24] <SomeT> if you could answer me that then at least I know there is a solution
[20:24] <ikonia> I'm pretty sure I could work it out
[20:24] <ikonia> so there will be an answer
[20:24] <LevierMRQ> Everyone, thanks for your help, everyone.  Must quit now because of bad connect.  Have a good day.
[20:25] <oerheks> LevierMRQ, have fun!
[20:26] <SomeT> so I think I figured out part of it
[20:26] <SomeT> my ctrl key is stuck
[20:26] <SomeT> but how to unstick it, its not physical its just in that temrinal
[20:26] <SomeT> and I can't reboot
[20:29] <SomeT> r key makes it do return
[20:31] <SomeT> https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/H7bXwxX.png
[20:31] <SomeT> its crazy
[20:54] <booh> internet is working, traceroute is working, host is working but ping no.
[20:54] <booh> I need to be able to ping, I use it a lot to configure devices.
[20:54] <ikonia> that's a bad idea
[20:54] <ikonia> icmp is not a reliable way to test a network device
[20:55] <booh> All was working before dist-upgrade.  I upgrade from ubuntu 16.04 to 16.04
[20:55] <ikonia> you said that
[20:56] <booh> I have never seen this kind of problem with a linux command...
[20:56] <booh> a basic linux command.
[20:56] <booh> arp is working too.
[20:56] <ikonia> arp is nothing to do with icmp
[20:57] <booh> Also, I install a new network card.
[20:57] <booh> to see if the embeded is broken.
[20:58] <booh> ping 127.0.0.1 freeze too.
[20:58] <booh> The command freeze.  CTRL-C isn't working.
[20:58] <ikonia> strace it
[21:05] <perboyre> i need help
[21:06] <ikonia> what's up
[21:06] <rami_> Hello there, I have an encrypted ssd with a Time Machine image from Apple. I need to access it, I have tried tmfs, but that didn't work. I am running 17.10. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
[21:06] <booh> I don't need help but I need ping :D
[21:06] <perboyre> my inglish is bat
[21:06] <ikonia> booh: you've been told what to do
[21:06] <perboyre> but, i  dont have wireles
[21:07] <ikonia> perboyre: what is your native language
[21:07] <perboyre> portugues
[21:07] <perboyre> brazil
[21:07] <kostkon> !pt
[21:14] <booh> I don't know strace.
[21:14] <booh> I'm installing virtualbox to try inside a vm...
[21:14] <ikonia> why
[21:15] <booh> I am curious
[21:15] <ikonia> what value is that ?
[21:15] <ikonia> just strace the binary
[21:15] <Romantic> Let's say I install an application manually, how can I make it show up as an application in the Ubuntu application menu?
[21:15] <ikonia> find out what's actually going on
[21:15] <booh> I don't know strace
[21:15] <ikonia> ok, either a.) learn b.) ask for help with it
[21:18] <kostkon> Romantic, need to create a .desktop file for it
[21:20] <kostkon> Romantic, plenty of answers https://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[21:20] <Draconiator> hmmm, every time I load up Xubuntu it seems to gaster.easter and ft f
[21:21] <Draconiator> *faster and faster.
[21:21] <Draconiator> Apparently Hexchat likes to mess up what I type
[21:25] <akik> Draconiator: your problem is that xubuntu is too fast?
[21:26] <Draconiator> LOL no.
[21:26] <Draconiator> just an observation
[21:26] <akik> Draconiator: just don't test gnome then :)
[21:30] <techneeded1> i need a headless linux app made for my project paying in bitcoin anyone interested priv me thanks
[21:30] <Draconiator> WinXP used to be installed on here...and it was too bloated to be useful...this netbook runs like a dream now and I may even use it as a small server.
[21:31] <ikonia> techneeded1: please don't advertise that sort of stuff here
[21:35] <booh> write(2, "ping: Lacking privilege for raw "..., 40ping: Lacking privilege for raw socket.
[21:42] <eXino> Hi! Seeking some guidance in regards to changing terminal font in Ubuntu. When I do so, it adds some weird spaces and some characters overlab some other places... How do I get a font like Ubuntu to actually show as it's supposed to?
[21:45] <booh> even in strace, in root, ping just freeze.  I must close the terminal.
[21:45] <dekatch> eXino, try something like that to begin with or to compare http://ezprompt.net
[21:47] <eXino> dekatch: Not sure what you want me to do with it? Sorry, still new to linux.
[21:47] <dekatch> you want to edit the font from your terminal eXino . in order to do that you need to edit .bashrc
[21:47] <dekatch> oh wait no, i may be confused
[21:48] <dekatch> i am actually just referring to the ps1
[21:48] <adalbert> eXino: are you on desktop or server ?
[21:48] <eXino> dekatch: With what exactly? I've just chosen a custom font the Edit -> Profile Preferences -> General -> Use custom font. I don't see what your link has to do with that :P
[21:48] <eXino> adalbert: Oh okay :P - I'm on desktop
[21:49] <adalbert> eXino: and what is the name of the terminal you are using ?
[21:50] <eXino> adalbert: Default one. Dunno what that is?
[21:51] <adalbert> eXino: oke, me neither cause i'm on xubuntu , mine is xfce-terminal
[21:51] <eXino> How would I go about figuring out the name of it? Sorry for my ignorance.
[21:51] <adalbert> eXino: you could install guake, it's a great terminal with it's own font preferences in settings.
[21:51] <eXino> adalbert: Ok, let me search it up etc.
[21:54] <eXino> adalbert: As I'm using weechat, would that still me installed and available through Guake? Asking again, because I'm simply new to linux and trying to learn and understand it :)
[21:55] <adalbert> sure weechat works on guake , but I know read guake is a gnome env terminal , so you need the gnome libs aswell
[21:56] <eXino> adalbert: Ok, ehm... How do I do that? /me feels like a kid learning how to turn on my PC for the first time.
[21:56] <adalbert> eXino: when you use apt install guake , all the dependencies for it are installed aswell, so the gnome libs included
[21:57] <eXino> Okay, so I just "sudo apt-get install guake" and the rest is done by itself?
[21:57] <adalbert> eXino: yup, you should be oke
[21:58] <JPSman> i'm reading all this stuff about guake and was wondering if it was a new Quake clone :OD
[21:58] <eXino> I'll give it a go then. Thanks so far :-)
[21:58] <eXino> JPSman: As I can read, it is inspired by Quake actually, lol
[21:58] <adalbert> eXino: after installation run guake-prefs , so you can fine tune it to your needs
[21:59] <JPSman> eXino, LOL --- too bad i can't "impulse 9" my desktop
[21:59] <adalbert> eXino: JPSman : it's a drop-down terminal activated by a key combo, just like in the old days of quake
[22:00] <JPSman> that is quite hilarious
[22:00] <adalbert> it is :D
[22:00] <adalbert> but it is a super terminal imo
[22:01] <JPSman> sv_hostframerate 0.05
[22:01] <eXino> How would I go about making guake start by itself without me having to launch it through the default terminal?
[22:01] <JPSman> slow down reality
[22:02] <JPSman> yeah, I wanna know stuff like that too - whats the best way to start a process at login?
[22:03] <adalbert> eXino: JPSman sec i'll imgur that for you
[22:03] <eXino> adalbert: thanks!
[22:04] <adalbert> https://imgur.com/a/On34Z
[22:04] <adalbert> add it to session and startup ...
[22:05] <eXino> Uhm, I cannot find that in ubuntu? I can see something called Startup Applications from which I have to find it manually in the folders somewhere :O
[22:05] <JPSman> Session and startup....  is that in 16.04??
[22:06] <adalbert> it's an xubuntu application, sorry have to find that some where else then
[22:06] <adalbert> xfce4-session-settings
[22:08] <eXino> Still have to find it manually in the system somewhere there as well. What folderdestination is it located at?
[22:08] <adalbert> eXino: /usr/bin ?
[22:08] <adalbert> eXino: /usr/bin/guake
[22:08] <eXino> All programs are installed there?
[22:09] <adalbert> most in /usr/bin system admin in /usr/sbin
[22:09] <eXino> adalbert: See, that's something new I just learned. Didn't know that. Then I can add it to Startup Applications, which is basically the same as what Sessions and Startup is :)
[22:10] <adalbert> eXino: great, enjoy your new terminal
[22:10] <eXino> adalbert: Thanks! :-)
[22:11] <eXino> Wil test it now.
[22:11] <eXino> I guess you're using it too?
[22:12] <adalbert> eXino: it's my favorite terminal other than the standard xubuntu one
[22:12] <eXino> adalbert: Cool :)
[22:13] <eXino> brb, will restart and test it
[22:17] <eXino> adalbert: Ok, so I just switched, but the font issue is still the same in this terminal.
[22:18] <eXino> Must be OS wise somehow.
[22:18] <sere> xrdb -load .Xdefaults
[22:18] <adalbert> eXino: oh really ? hmm, then it's system font related ...
[22:19] <adalbert> eXino: can you upload a picture to imgur.com so I can see what your font looks like ?
[22:19] <adalbert> https://imgur.com/a/B1pZn, is the first of my virtual desktops ...
[22:20] <eXino> I can't even hide guake right now because I changed the keybind and the new one apparently doesn't work... one moment :)=
[22:21] <adalbert> eXino_: you can also show and hide guake by clicking on the green guake taskbar icon
[22:22] <eXino> adalbert: Ok, fixed it. How do I change a picture quickly in linux and upload it to imgur?
[22:22] <eXino> I'm used to use ShareX on windows, lol
[22:24] <adalbert> in a terminal type $gnome-screenshot -w --delay 3
[22:24] <eXino> adalbert: You can see it on this link - https://askubuntu.com/questions/72023/why-are-letters-overlapping-in-the-terminal
[22:25] <LeeC> Does anyone have a working install of Shutter on 17.10? The old bug where all screen shots capture only an array of Shutter logos is still in Shutter 0.93.1.  This bug was also in Linux Mint but has been fixed now.
[22:26] <adalbert> eXino: i see, have you tried any of the answers to fix it ?
[22:27] <eXino> adalbert: I tried as best of my ability, but I'm not sure if I did it correctly.
[22:28] <eXino> Use fixed system width is an option I cannot find. And the ttf font family suggestion is something I'm lost with. I tried something from another guide, but I don't think it was the same and it didn't make any difference.
[22:28] <eXino> haven't tried the purge pango-graphite thing.
[22:32] <Dyrcona> I have an encrypted swap partition that seems to have "disappeared."
[22:33] <Dyrcona> The underlying disk partition is there, but I have to set it up again manually every time I reboot, and then it is not there on the next boot.
[22:33] <Dyrcona> When I do boot, the system takes forever, ends up in busy box.
[22:34] <Dyrcona> I type "exit." It boots, and I can enter the passphrase for the encrypted home partition.
[22:34] <Dyrcona> I've tried googling, but all I come up with are instructions for setting this up in the first place. Nothing on how to repair it.
[22:35] <adalbert> eXino: I'm reading this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts , maybe it helps.
[22:35] <Dyrcona> When I follow any of the instructions I've found, I get the behavior described above.
[22:35] <Dyrcona> Anyone dealt with this before and have any suggestions?
[22:36] <eXino> adalbert: I'll give it a go, one moment
[22:36] <Dyrcona> This started today. The laptop "froze" when waking from sleep and I had to power it off with the power button, so I'm sure something was corrupted.
[22:36] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: show the contents of /etc/fstab and the output "blkid" generates on a pastebin
[22:36] <tomreyn> !paste | Dyrcona
[22:38] <tomreyn> Dyrcona:  also which ubuntu version is this? run: lsb_release -ds
[22:39] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/=DTRvcpH49V/
[22:39] <Dyrcona> It's Ubuntu 17.10.
[22:40] <Dyrcona> You'll notice /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt is missing. That's what happens when I reboot.
[22:40] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: and finally (?) output of "cat /proc/swaps"
[22:40] <rangemonger> is it just me or are gdebi and software store both broken for double clicking debs on a fresh install?
[22:40] <rangemonger> 17.10
[22:40] <Dyrcona> swap is on presently on.
[22:41] <Dyrcona> oops. swap is off, I meant to say.
[22:42] <eXino> adalbert: I'm reading alot of people mentioning that monospace works best for terminals as characters are placed in grids, which monospace places characters in the middle of, where as other fonts may put them off. Still seems weird that they will overlap sometimes though.
[22:42] <Dyrcona> Last time, I added the partition back using these instructions: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/encrypted-swap-partition-on/
[22:42] <eXino> I'm using monospace now though. Will be good enough for now :) I'm off for today, thank you for your assistance! :)
[22:43] <Dyrcona> I also edited /etc/crypttab since blkid reported a different UUID, and the ran update-initramfs, hoping all of that would fix it, but nope.
[22:44] <rangemonger> hmm, gdebi doesnt prompt for password, it just closes
[22:46] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt (which fstab thinks is your swap partition) is not listed in blkid output. did you - after verifying this destructive action does not overwrite data you still need - "mkswap /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt" ?
[22:48] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: also be sure to check "dmesg -T" output for hardware errors since the swap partition vanished unexpectedly with what you assume could be some kind of corruption.
[22:50] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: These are the steps that I took last time to try and fix it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/=fnDQkvJx7d/
[22:50] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt disappears on reboot.
[22:50] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: /etc/crypttab should point to the LVM encrypted device which the swap partition is layered into
[22:52] <tomreyn> blkid /dev/mapper/sd1_crypt  << typo, you lack and 'a' in "sd1_crypt"
[22:52] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: Yeah, I copied the wrong entry from history.
[22:53] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: /etc/crypttab has 2 lines. This is the relevant one: sda1_crypt UUID=2f102a94-69e8-45ea-8e66-58ee4c1ca8fb none luks,swap,discard
[22:53] <Dyrcona> That was the UUID from the successful blkid.
[22:53] <Dyrcona> dmesg -T shows no problems that I can see.
[22:57] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[22:58] <rangemonger> word
[23:00] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: so, basically there are two ways you can use encrypted swap. one, which you seem to be trying to use, is to have a static swap partition, which persists across reboots and must be unloicked on boot. The other is to create the swap file system every time you boot, with a random passphrase. This one doesn't require you to enter the passphrase on boot. i do not know how well it works with suspend to disk or RAM. Suspend to RAM is not a
[23:00] <tomreyn> good thing to use with full disk encryption.
[23:03] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: ok so the method with the random passphrase doesn't work with suspend to disk (hibernation). and i assume that's what you intend to use.
[23:04] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: I haven't set up anything up for suspend to disk specifically, so I think I'm doing suspend to RAM.
[23:04] <Dyrcona> That may explain why it has locked a couple of times when waking from sleep and something was in swap.
[23:05] <tomreyn> Dyrcona: well, you shouldn't suspend to ram if you plan to have any benefit from FDE. it will store your decryption passphrase (unencrypted) to ram, from where it can be extracted at any time.
[23:05] <tomreyn> consider this instead https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Swap_encryption#With_suspend-to-disk_support
[23:06] <tomreyn> the guide you used is not the best
[23:06] <tomreyn> it's also quite old. nowadays you want to use xts encryption
[23:07] <tomreyn> and ubuntu default to it, too, i think. aes-xts-plain64
[23:08] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: I didn't use that guide initially. I did it during installation, though it came out weird.
[23:08] <Dyrcona> I had to coax the installer to get what I wanted.
[23:08] <Dyrcona> It looks like I may have to go that route again and just encrypt everything.
[23:09] <Dyrcona> I didn't want to reinstall because it means reinstalling applications and configuring again.
[23:09] <tomreyn> just encrypting swap and nothing else is not overly helpful. it's a good start but really not enough.
[23:10] <Dyrcona> I encrypted swap and /home. I don't really care about /, but I may have to encrypt it, too.
[23:10] <Dyrcona> IIRC, the installed didn't seem to like encrypting everything or made it difficult to put /home on the second drive when I asked to encrypt everything.
[23:10] <Dyrcona> s/installed/installer/
[23:12] <Dyrcona> tomreyn: Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I'll just reinstall the O/S and deal with the pain. At least I have backups of my data.
[23:13] <tomreyn> the installer should offer to setup "full disk encyption with lvm" or something, that's the option your should choose.
[23:13] <Dyrcona> Yeap. I'll give that a shot. Just making a last backup..
[23:14] <tomreyn> you can always move /home to the second drive later
[23:41] <Budgii> hey guys someone on here told me a vmware that was free yesterday. anyone recall that?
[23:42] <Budgii> It was like.. box something
[23:43] <rangemonger> virtualbox
[23:43] <rangemonger> im using it right now actually :)
[23:43] <kostkon> Budgii, https://www.virtualbox.org/
[23:44] <elitedev> exit
[23:44] <Budgii> Thanks guys!
[23:44] <baba_> which is better....vmware or virtualbox?
[23:44] <rangemonger> imo, vmware is better under a win host and vb is better under a linux host
[23:45] <rangemonger> they also each have a few small things the other does not
[23:45] <Budgii> Okay, i'm not sure which version to download. Im on Budgie.
[23:45] <Budgii> (Virtual Box)
[23:45] <rangemonger> the unbuntu one
[23:45] <Budgii> 16.04, 16.10 or 17.04?
[23:46] <rangemonger> when did you get budgie?
[23:46] <kostkon> Budgii, it's the same
[23:46] <baba_> hmmm....I lookd for these in the past and remember seeing that there was a consensus on the question, but I don't remember which was the winner...
[23:46] <kostkon> Budgii, regardless of release
[23:46] <Budgii> I've had it for a few weeks rangemonger
[23:46] <rangemonger> 17.04 is not only the version but the date that that ver of ubuntu came out
[23:46] <Budgii> Okay, ill just get 10.04
[23:46] <Budgii> 17.04*
[23:47] <hggdh> 17.04 is no longer supported.
[23:47] <kostkon> Budgii, 17.10 which is still supported or even 16.04
[23:47] <Budgii> Virtual box package for different types of linux is what i'm talking about kostkon
[23:47] <rangemonger> 18.04 cant come soon enough, 17.04 seems really buggy to me
[23:47] <Budgii> there is an i386 and amd64 version, i chose i386
[23:47] <rangemonger> *17.10
[23:48] <rangemonger> Budgii: depends on which ver of linux youre on
[23:48] <Budgii> are we still talking VirtualBox Rangemonger?
[23:48] <Budgii> Yes, i understand that. i'm on Budgie
[23:48] <kostkon> Budgii, well does  uname -r say
[23:48] <kostkon> what*
[23:48] <rangemonger> -r... thaaats what it was, i was looking for the right switch
[23:48] <rangemonger> i meant ubuntu 17.10
[23:49] <rangemonger> its just been problematic for me
[23:49] <Budgii> 4.13.0-32-generic
[23:49] <rangemonger> wait, do -a
[23:49] <baba_> hmmm.....interesting...it maybe is not just me...17.10 seems sluggish
[23:49] <Budgii> Linux Alien 4.13.0-32-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 25 09:13:46 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:49] <kostkon> Budgii, better do -i  i.e. uname -i
[23:49] <rangemonger> gdebi doesnt work right on 17.10
[23:49] <kostkon> Budgii, so amd64
[23:50] <rangemonger> the software stores installer doesnt either
[23:50] <Budgii> Thanks!
[23:50] <rangemonger> i keep having to use the terminal to launch things via sudo for them to work
[23:50] <Budgii> AMD64 doesn't mean an AMD processor right?
[23:50] <rangemonger> it can be intel or amd
[23:51] <Budgii> Awesome. I was going to say I should have an i5, not AMD...
[23:51] <rangemonger> its just so called because amd was first to make a x86_64 bit cpu
[23:51] <Budgii> If it said that, i'd be like ?? with my HP. :P
[23:51] <Budgii> gotcha
[23:51] <BenderRodriguez> Budgii, the wikipedia page has an explaination why 64bit designation is termed AMD64
[23:51] <rangemonger> same reason its i386, i meaning intel
[23:52] <rangemonger> intel used to have its own 64bit
[23:52] <rangemonger> ia64
[23:52] <rangemonger> the itanium cpu
[23:52] <Budgii> Thanks BenderRodriguez. I probably won't read it cause i'm feeling lazy about it. xD
[23:52] <rangemonger> it only emulated 32bit stuff
[23:52] <rangemonger> it failed
[23:52] <BenderRodriguez> >:{
[23:52] <rangemonger> amd, on other hand, extended x86 to add 64bit
[23:53] <Budgii> The vm doesn't do 64bit windows?
[23:53] <Guest39207> hey guys having problems with wifi, it's hard and soft blocked
[23:53] <rangemonger> since it was so successful, intel follwed suit
[23:53] <Guest39207> anyone have an idea?
[23:53] <baba_> the 'itanic'
[23:53] <rangemonger> Budgii: it does
[23:54] <Budgii> rangemonger, i'm only seeing 32Bit versions in the list to set it up/
[23:54] <rangemonger> in virtualbox?
[23:54] <Budgii> Yes.
[23:54] <Budgii> I clicked new and under the options i only see 32 bit versions.
[23:55] <rangemonger> sure you didnt install the 32bit vb?
[23:55] <Budgii> Ill check,when i DL'd it, it opened up the software center.
[23:55] <kostkon> rangemonger, looks like it
[23:56] <Budgii> From here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads I downloaded the Ubuntu 17.04, AMD64 option
[23:57] <rangemonger> is vt-x on in your bios?
[23:57] <rangemonger> vb needs vt-x do do 64bit guest os
[23:57] <Budgii> Maybe I didnt, i think i ran the i386 that i first downloaded. I'll give it another shot
[23:57] <rangemonger> oh
[23:59] <Budgii> Hmm.. still offering 32 bit.
[23:59] <Budgii> Its definitely 64bit machine
[23:59] <rangemonger> check your bios for vt-x
[23:59] <Budgii> Whats that?
[23:59] <Budgii> really dont feel like rebooting right npow
[23:59] <rangemonger> hardware virtualization, the vm will see the real cpu
[23:59] <kostkon> Budgii, you need to enter your uefi/bios and enable vt-x/amd-v
[23:59] <rangemonger> its much faster and 64bit guests need it
[23:59] <Budgii> I don't really need windows so i'll just go with 32bit for now