[00:41] <pepee> this is still an issue:   https://askubuntu.com/a/753280
[00:44] <pepee> if it helps, I installed mysql-server first, then removed  mysql-client  and  mysql-server, then installed  mariadb-server  and  mariadb-client
[00:46] <tsimonq2> Report a bug, please.
[00:53] <pepee> https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alaunchpad.net+mariadb+apparmor
[00:54] <pepee> I haven't tested the fix, though... the DB is installed in my host, and I have yet to reboot it
[13:39] <notsgnik> Hello, i'm using ubuntu bionic beaver daily build freshly installed yesterday and i'm running into trouble with ipv6 :/
[13:39] <notsgnik> i tried to disable it but it don't
[13:39] <notsgnik> here what i've tryed https://notehub.org/bs63x
[13:39] <notsgnik> four diferent things and it is still up oO!?
[14:16] <Gargravarr> also got another problem with the daily - the systemd-resolved problem seems to have cured itself with today's ISO, but Python 2.7 dependencies seem to be broken
[14:17] <Gargravarr> as surprised as i am that 18.04 doesn't include Python2 by default
[14:19] <Odd_Bloke> Gargravarr: What specific Python 2.7 dependency issues are you seeing?
[14:22] <Gargravarr> Odd_Bloke: libpython2.7-stdlib, requires 2.7.14-4 exactly, package version is 2.7.14-6
[14:24] <Odd_Bloke> Gargravarr: You're seeing this during install, or after install?
[14:25] <Gargravarr> Odd_Bloke: post-install
[14:25] <Odd_Bloke> Gargravarr: So I just did a post-weekend upgrade and I have libpython2.7-stdlib -6 installed, and didn't see any error messages.
[14:26] <Odd_Bloke> Can you reproduce the issue if you try again now?
[14:26] <Gargravarr> already trying
[14:27] <Gargravarr> ah... think the problem is on my end
[14:27] <Gargravarr> i have an internal package mirror. seems like the cache hasn't properly sync'd over the weekend
[14:28] <Odd_Bloke> Aha, that'd do it. :)
[14:33] <Gargravarr> hmm, the sync must've errored out this morning
[14:33] <Gargravarr> yeah, false alarm
[15:22] <notsgnik> btw, thank you the dev community of ubuntu, i get a really nice operating system for free that it also really good, so thank you and i'll donnate wen i'll be able to :D
[17:06] <notsgnik> also, i don't know if it's normal but
[17:07] <notsgnik> wen i installed it, i use "erase entire disk etc.." and i have no swap partition
[17:10] <notsgnik> gparted say's i don't have one, neither the confirmation dialog before confirming the partition shame
[17:10] <notsgnik> the "free -m" command tell me that i do have one
[17:11] <hggdh> notsgnik: what does 'swapon' show you?
[17:11] <Odd_Bloke> notsgnik: IIRC, we switched to using a swapfile rather than a dedicated partition.
[17:11] <notsgnik> one sec fstab say's that it is a file now
[17:11] <hggdh> yeah, there you go
[17:12] <notsgnik> :)
[17:12] <Odd_Bloke> Hmm, I wonder if that means I can reclaim my dedicated swap partition.
[17:12] <hggdh> Odd_Bloke: prolly :-) just create the swap file and set it on
[17:13] <hggdh> (which I should also do, BTW)
[17:13] <hggdh> one of these daus
[17:14]  * Odd_Bloke files that away for a Friday afternoon.
[17:18] <notsgnik> file /swapfile -> /swapfile: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages)...
[17:18] <notsgnik> i like the "new style" comment :D
[17:19] <notsgnik> is it recreated each boot or crypted in order to avoid memory leaks ?
[17:19]  * Odd_Bloke doesn't know the details.
[18:06] <Gargravarr> supposedly there is no performance difference between swapfiles and partitions these days
[18:06] <Gargravarr> swapfiles are also easier to manage with FDE
[18:09] <Gargravarr> Odd_Bloke: think my interal-mirror issue was down to me rather stupidly sticking a rate limit on rsync for testing purposes and then forgetting to remove it :$ rather than letting it nom all the bandwidth at 2AM
[18:10] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[18:38] <BLZbubba> looks like bionic server is having trouble starting ntp on bootup.
[18:40] <Odd_Bloke> BLZbubba: As an NTP server, or as a client?
[18:43] <BLZbubba> well let me rephrase that in a more cynical fashion
[18:43] <BLZbubba> who's the jackass who renamed ntpd to systemd-timesyncd
[19:18] <Odd_Bloke> BLZbubba: You still aren't really describing the problem you're seeing. :)
[19:18] <Gargravarr> BLZbubba: the answer is, my current favourite curse word
[19:19] <Odd_Bloke> Though I will note that (a) I don't think ntp has been installed by default on Ubuntu Server ever, and (b) we're replacing ntp (the package) with an alternative NTP server/client, chrony, in bionic.
[19:32] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: we seed ntp onn the server daily, but it's not preinstalled (i believe)
[19:35] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: It's not in the server seed, certainly.
[20:38] <BLZbubba> Odd_Bloke: sorry not enough info -- ntp is installed by default but it is named systemd-timesyncd
[20:39] <BLZbubba> and the startup scripts just don't start ntp if it's installed and enabled
[20:39] <Odd_Bloke> OK, ntp is _not_ named systemd-timesycnd.
[20:39] <BLZbubba> it was forked
[20:39] <Odd_Bloke> That is a separate package, and a completely separate implementation.
[20:40] <Odd_Bloke> If you keep conflating systemd-timesyncd and ntp, it's really going to be impossible to have a meaningful conversation. :)
[20:40] <Odd_Bloke> BLZbubba: So your issue is that you're expecting systemd-timesyncd to be running at boot and it isn't?
[23:20] <tfgbd_> Which Ubuntu should I try on my Baytrail and Cherrytrail Tablet PCs?
[23:20] <tfgbd_> Is a nightly more likely to work?
[23:21] <tfgbd_> Does 18.04 at least (finally) have a 32 bit grub efi in the .iso?
[23:31] <tfgbd_> Okay, I'm downloading it now.
[23:31] <tfgbd_> I'm trying to get the live DVD to boot on my TW700
[23:31] <tfgbd_> Does 18.04 contain some kind of on screen keyboard?
[23:32] <notsgnik> btw tfgbd_ i guess since it's gnome shell 3
[23:33] <notsgnik> it would be by default well integrated
[23:34] <tfgbd_> I downloaded 18.04 bionic.
[23:34] <tfgbd_> Does that come with Gnome shell 3?
[23:35] <notsgnik> do anyone have an idea if Ubuntu is made for the memory type you can find in a tablet or is it safer to use a SD card ?
[23:35] <notsgnik> yep tfgbd_ i alwase remeber having a nice keyboard out of the box with gnome shell
[23:35] <notsgnik> 3
[23:37] <notsgnik> i'm asking if ubuntu is safe for mmc since i do want to install it on a tablet too :)
[23:38] <notsgnik> should i use it simlessly like i would with any hard drive or should i tweak ubuntu to avoid data loss ?
[23:39] <notsgnik> or even just use an SD card?
[23:39] <notsgnik> maybe it's not the right place to ask those questions
[23:39] <notsgnik> sorry:/
[23:41] <tfgbd_> SD Card won't work on most computers/
[23:41] <tfgbd_> They can't boot from it.
[23:41] <notsgnik> even on a tablet?
[23:42] <tfgbd_> Most of the newer ones can't boot from an SD card.
[23:42] <tfgbd_> They need USB.
[23:42] <tfgbd_> If you're talking tablet PCs, I mean.
[23:42] <tfgbd_> If you mean something with Android and an ARM processor, that may be different.
[23:42] <tfgbd_> I'm talking stuff like the Surface 3.
[23:42] <tfgbd_> Or WinBook TW700
[23:43] <notsgnik> but i can use a peace of uefi to boot from the emmc and still use the sd card as main partition
[23:43] <tfgbd_> Maybe.
[23:43] <tfgbd_> I'm trying to get it working too.
[23:43] <tfgbd_> I'm downloading the .iso now.
[23:43] <notsgnik> ah ah
[23:43] <tfgbd_> I don't have much faith anything will work out of the box,  though.
[23:43] <tfgbd_> What tablet do you have?
[23:43] <notsgnik> honda v80+
[23:43] <notsgnik> cheep on ebay
[23:43] <tfgbd_> I just tried an older Ubuntu based distro and the touch screen sorta worked.
[23:44] <tfgbd_> But no wifi and the battery didn't work right.
[23:44] <tfgbd_> I think it ran down the battery really quickly too.
[23:44] <tfgbd_> Oh, neat.
[23:44] <tfgbd_> Did you make a recovery drive for Windows?
[23:44] <notsgnik> i don't think i have windows installed on it
[23:45] <notsgnik> it's ment to run linux anyway
[23:45] <tfgbd_> Oh, okay
[23:45] <tfgbd_> Then you may have better luck.
[23:45] <tfgbd_> I didn't even know they sold them with Linux.
[23:45] <notsgnik> i mean, i'm not intending to install windows on it ever
[23:46] <notsgnik> it sould dualboot android out of the box so i guess they did all the kernel drivers
[23:47] <notsgnik> you sould look it up, it's 2gb of ram and a charreytrail and only 60$ on ebay
[23:48] <notsgnik> i bought it after having seen a tutorial where the guy install ubuntu on it and everything seams to work
[23:48] <notsgnik> wifi and all
[23:50] <notsgnik> but now i'm waiting for some electronics to add a baterypack coupled with usb ports to turn it into a nice hacking device :p
[23:51] <tfgbd_> I didn't even know Honda made computers.
[23:51] <tfgbd_> I saw a PC made by Hyundai on ebay too.
[23:53] <notsgnik> i don't know if they are related to the honda car brand
[23:53] <notsgnik> it's onda
[23:53] <notsgnik> sorry
[23:53] <notsgnik> onda v80+