[13:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAOr6
[13:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/master 187853c Redwolf: Add temporary slides...
 shut up, lugito!
 o__o
 @VikingRedwolf Suggestions: slide 5's subtitle is wrong, and Quassel should show #lubuntu
 @julienlavergne When you get a chance, could you please investigate why Openbox's settings aren't set, and why the SDDM greeter isn't being used by default?
 it's TEMPORARY
 @tsimonq2, Normal for openbox, lxqt used a weird env mechanism to set it
 @tsimonq2, And for sddm, probably because there is no specific conf for Lubuntu
 @julienlavergne, @tsimonq2, I think I need help regarding the Calamres language templates. if you have some information, please, send it to me. I have no idea how to put text over the slides, or translate them, or even how to tesst them via cli.
 THANKS :)
 btw, @julienlavergne, you need an avatar 😐
 @julienlavergne, OK. Would you like to work on this or should I?
 @julienlavergne, Alright. Is it fixable?
 @VikingRedwolf, I'll figure it out
 It's just QML
 It can't be THAT hard
 If anything @VikingRedwolf, pop open Qt Creator and use the designer to make something up to your standards which is the same size as what's given, with the same look, just text within QML instead of on the image itself
 There is no preview needed, you can just use the Qt Designer
 Then once you're done, give me the text and I can format it to go into Calamares
 They have one module to add that just does the slide advancements but that's it, it's pure QML
 (you don't even need to add that module)
 @VikingRedwolf Here's an example of a QML file that does translations: https://github.com/KaOSx/calamares/blob/master/src/branding/kaos_branding/show.qml
 So it has the image and then text on top of that
 Let me look to see how they actually manage the translations aspect of that...
 @tsimonq2, Curious distro....
 @Wolfenprey, Right
 only the last qt, kde...
[17:30] <agaida> but demm know what she is doing and is rich enouh just to do exactly this
 @tsimonq2, thank you, honey
 @agaida, she?
[18:03] <agaida> yes
 who?
[18:04] <agaida> Anke Boersma "demm"
 Dunno who she is
[18:13] <agaida> the main dev of KaOS
 Awesome. It's nice to see a woman leading a foss project.
[18:23] <agaida> and build the whole thing nearly from the scratch - ok, she use pacman as package manager, but that it was
 wow
 I admire her now
 Last time i tested Kaos on my system was like "WOW"
 "plasma is slow" XD
 Ah, sorry, and... "Electron is evil"
 Actually, Lubuntu needs snap support for electron apps like Atom or Springmail
 OMG wxl @VikingRedwolf is SUCH a developer. He's writing QML!
[19:06] <wxl> whoa
 smhmshmmgrunt
 @VikingRedwolf why would you need snap support for electron app?
 or, do you mean, snappy?
 for Atom :)
 it's a must-have now 😐
[22:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA378
[22:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/master e4df790 Redwolf: Add small brand bitmaps for slides
 😐
 wxl!!! @tsimonq2 managed to make me install qtcreator!! I want to resign!
 .___.
 omg wxl he's SUCH A DEVELOPER
 He wrote QML!
 .___________.
[22:18] <wxl> we need to get him to write json
[22:18] <wxl> that's valid javascript, you know
 qml? omg
 NEVER!
 @wxl, YES!!!
 @acheronuk, Oh yeah :D
[22:18] <wxl> or if you edit your emacs config, you're basically writing lisp :)
 EMACS!!!
 eeeeeew
[22:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA35W
[22:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/master de469f9 Redwolf: Prepare slides background
 shut up, mojito
[22:19] <wxl> emacs is very useful for some things that vi can't hold a candle to. there's also a vi mode to it.
[22:19] <wxl> mojito XD
 XD
[22:20]  * wxl is actually staring at an emacs window right now (see org-mode)
 O_O
[22:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] tsimonq2 created testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vA3dF
[22:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf b3679d5 Simon Quigley: Initial rewrite of the slideshow in QML.
 .__. stop messing with my code
 XD
 @Jacob Kim, He wrote IN QML
 Not QML itself
 Although he is a DEVELOPER now so I wouldn't be surprised if he did XD
 I actually did edit qml code for the first Lubuntu greeter. And it was awful!
 XD
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3813.mp4
[22:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf: https://git.io/vA3bJ
[22:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf 9ee5542 Simon Quigley: Correct the slide 1 URL in show.qml.
 So @VikingRedwolf this is where I'm at then
 (Photo, 1022x547) https://i.imgur.com/CaCzpTp.jpg
 (Photo, 1024x742) https://i.imgur.com/YJPK0dO.jpg Fullscreen
 @tsimonq2, Can we do linear gradients
 @VikingRedwolf so what are you thinking then?
 @carriewst, That
 grr
 Nice
 That's a question for @VikingRedwolf
 Look
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3818.png
 Actually, give me a min, I can make a few more tweaks @VikingRedwolf
 Linear looks cool right?
 @tsimonq2, Center that (text and icon) in that background
 @VikingRedwolf, ok
 If there's any design/mockup concept work, I'll be happy to help
 (Sticker, 512x128) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3819
 Noted that, @carriewst. They're done though 🙂
 Yeah, but there's always room for improvement right?
 @VikingRedwolf, Yea sure, it's a hassle to rework stuff
 Anyways, I'm very ambient in my designs, so I'll usually go hard on the shadows and grain textures
 @carriewst, Always
 @carriewst, 😀
 Is there any design guidelines y'all are specifically following?
 .__.
 (Photo, 1026x769) https://i.imgur.com/vjP4Eao.jpg @VikingRedwolf
 They change eventually. This release is special, different
 @tsimonq2, O.O!!!!
 @tsimonq2, O.o
 Fwd from VikingRedwolf: Center that (text and icon) in that background
 XD
 •_____•
 Use the coordinates I used in qt-creator
 Wait what
 I placed centered text so you need only to replace it. Don't move the text boxes!
 You guys are program itically doing the hero image?
 wut?
 @carriewst, ..
 Like err
 Manually aligning logo in code?
 Yes
 Wutt
 When you put an image, it's just a widget with properties. Size, x, y, etc.
 Yeah ik
 Wouldn't it better if you just did that in photoshop or smth
 No if you want to keep the text like text. It has to be translatable.
 How bout the logo?
 Text is understandable
 Same. I did it with Inkscape. But it's a widget so you only change the backgrounds, and the logo stays on top.
 Independently.
 Like a layer.
 Ah
 @VikingRedwolf, Don't quite get this tho
 I mean i get its a layer
 Aye
 But like, why not just do it in inkscape? Scale to different resolutions?
 Because QML is much more modular
 That'll result in a flat bitmap, not real text
 Plus we need to be able to translate it
 Yussss ikkk
 Wait here
 Here
 (Photo, 1280x927) https://i.imgur.com/TE7WL6t.jpg
 Was talking about logo
 Yes, I get what you ask.
 BTW Raf, and I didn't initially get this, but https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-text-fonts-fonts-qml.html has details on how we can do the fonts a bit better
 About reason to keep it as a layer is that you can move it to adjust arrive the text of you need to. Otherwise I'll need to create 8 new backgrounds every time
 @tsimonq2, Yes, please, the new design involve the Roboto font together with Ubuntu font.
 @VikingRedwolf, Scaling to different resolutions?
 @VikingRedwolf, Ayyyy lmao
 Or a slim flat font.
 (Photo, 1021x740) https://i.imgur.com/TaL3we5.jpg
 Let me know what you think.
 More to the left
 OK
 The cyan text don't really fit there lol
 Let me see what I can do
 With dat background
 @carriewst, I think it does, what do you think Raf?
 It does.
 It's a complementary colour.
 I designed palette for the banners.
 But it's too thick.
 That's why it looks wrong
 I mean, a designers perspective
 Lemme find
 I made a manual. It'll be public soon. It explains the colours used.
 Ok please release it :3
 Not yet. Can't 😉
 Oki ;_;
 Until Legal dept. authorises it.
 For the gradients, try to make it softer. It looks a little extreme. Refer to color theory when you craft gradients
 Natural always looks goof
 I do. Gradient matches the Lubuntu colours and the forthcoming wallpaper.
 Everything's planned.
 Of course, it must not go against the principle guidelines of your desgin as a whole
 Ok sure
 @VikingRedwolf So what's your opinion on fonts?
 Ubuntu for everything, or where do you want to use Roboto?
 Try with Ubuntu light. Super ultra mega light.
 Stick with one font, roboto is for material
 @VikingRedwolf, Light on both pieces of text? Or just the title?
 Ubuntu would do , just change the thiccness
 Both
 ack
 @carriewst, Yup
 Why is there so much white space over the slide?
 You guys mind if i redesigned a mockup of the installer?
 Like in photoshop
 Go on
 Ok :3
 But you realise we can only recreate psd or images for using it in qml?
 (Photo, 800x447) https://i.imgur.com/IGHjCeC.jpg Better?
 I know
 It's weird
 @tsimonq2, More
 @VikingRedwolf, I mean, its better to manually do it?
 @Jacob Kim, Why
 It looks ok tbh
 Totally centered between the left and the web page
 Wait here
 Or let me do it later with the qml code
 @VikingRedwolf, I can make it work
 Hold on, mate :)
 Better to do this?
 Idk
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/hBFBRIi.jpg
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://i.imgur.com/yZQM93u.jpg Flag raising😢
 It has to be placed in the proper place so it fits ALL slides with different sizes images.
[23:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to bionic: https://git.io/vA3pQ
[23:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic 7e9d36b Simon Quigley: Install pastebinit by default.
 @Jacob Kim, School
 I'll get things finished up for @VikingRedwolf and we can adjust positions later.
 @carriewst Keep it on-topic please.
 @tsimonq2, Yes
 @tsimonq2, Ok sorry
 @Jacob Kim, Me 2
 @Jacob Kim, That's just Calamares, sudo apt install calamares, then in ppa:ubuntu-calamares/testing we have the daily build of the settings package.
 (Sticker, 436x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3832
 @carriewst Please, no unnecessary stickers.
 It uses deb 😁
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
 @Jacob Kim, About how they're built or the user side of things?
[23:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf: https://git.io/vA3hu
[23:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/testing-the-new-slideshow-from-developer-raf de7500f Simon Quigley: Adjust the first slide from Raf's IRC feedback.
 @Jacob Kim, To make my life miserable
 You already use a repository: Google Play
 @Jacob Kim, It's a bit complicated, but the tl;dr is that it's an extra mini-archive
 Like Ubuntu's
 @Jacob Kim, Do you use an android phone?
 You have a Google repository then. If you add F-Droid you'll have two. More apps then.
[23:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [calamares-settings-ubuntu] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAse4
[23:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- calamares-settings-ubuntu/master 17e7bf5 Simon Quigley: Convert the slides to QML instead of using PNGs....
 @VikingRedwolf QML slides should be good now.
 Please, do make modifications to the QML.
 Awright
 If you grab a Lubuntu Next ISO (doesn't work in regular Lubuntu), you can edit the QML, run the slideshow, then don't restart after.
 That's how I did it.
 There's some things that will in fact be off.
 But do let me know if you need any help.
 Also let me know when you're satisfied with it, and I can upload it to the archive.
 Can I simply open your qml with qtcreator?
 No.
 There's a Calamares module that Qt Creator can't handle.
 😢
 I know, it sucks.
 But I'll work with upstream to fix it.