[00:06] <SuperLag> Have an ancient Ubuntu install in a Digital Ocean droplet. It got rebooted, and now it says the kernel is missing. When I look in /boot, I see all the relevant files that are pointed to from the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. What else would cause the kernel to show up as missing?
[00:07] <SuperLag> I have access to the system via chroot. I'm just not sure what to do to get it fixed, as it doesn't look like anything is wrong. Unless I'm missing a step in troubleshooting.
[00:10] <frostschutz> SuperLag, is your /boot full? maybe an apt-get update that stopped halfway?
[00:11] <SuperLag> frostschutz: Nope. 5.5GB free.
[00:14] <hggdh> SuperLag: your best option is to ask DO what happened -- they have a weird way to set kernels
[00:19] <frostschutz> oh, I don't know digital ocean at all... is it real virtualization (like KVM)? Otherwise sometimes, you don't even get to choose your own kernel
[00:21] <streetwitch> Could anyone help me write a bash script?
[00:23] <SuperLag> frostschutz: I think it's Xen-based
[00:23] <oerheks> streetwitch, there is #bash here on #freenode
[00:24] <kostkon> streetwitch, you didn't even pastebined it
[00:24] <kostkon> pastebin*
[00:31] <metastable> DO is... meh in terms of how they have things set up.
[00:42] <Dbugger> Hi everyone.
[00:42] <rangemonger> word
[00:42] <Dbugger> I have a very weird issue. All my screencasts (SHIFT ALT CTRL R) are 0 bytes. Like nothing is actually being saved. What could be wrong here??
[00:43] <Codsworth> I'm trying to copy a website and download all pdfs on it, i'm trying to use wget to do this but it always copies the site but doesn't grab the pdfs.  the folders and pdfs are located about 4-5 folders deep
[00:43] <Codsworth> the site copies fine and the folders are all downloaded but they don't contain pdfs... the site is wordpress if that helps
[00:53] <joecoc1916> I am having with ubuntu on windows linux
[00:54] <boblamont> How do I post a short video clip somewhere related to a problem I want to ask about?
[00:58] <joecoc1916> let me qualify, linux subsystem does initialize properly.  Ihad errors on the screen. Here's the messages give me a few minits. be rigt back
[00:59] <joecoc1916> v
[01:00] <joecoc1916> Installing, this may take a few minutes... Installation Failed! Error: 0x8000000d Press any key to continue...     Unsupported console settings. In order to use this feature the legacy console must be disabled.
[01:00] <boblamont> joecoc1916: did you try disabling the legacy console?
[01:01] <joecoc1916> there are 2 errors there
[01:01] <joecoc1916> can anyone make sense out of the errors?
[01:02] <crond> Is ubuntu subsystem for windows supported here?
[01:02] <crond> I actually have no idea about that. lol
[01:02] <crond> Now i'm curious
[01:02] <crond> !windows
[01:03] <nacc> !ubuwin
[01:03] <nacc> crond: --^ that's the faq you wanted, and the answer is no :)
[01:03] <crond> nacc, cool, I didn't know about that one :) ty
[01:03] <hotbakedpotato[m> how can a dns leak still happen if you have all traffic blocked except thought a vpn?
[01:04] <crond> joecoc1916, so you want to go to one of those channels
[01:05] <metastable> hotbakedpotato[m: One way is if the DNS server you were using prior to connecting to the VPN is on your interface's local network.
[01:05] <crond> my pi hole did that.
[01:06] <metastable> hotbakedpotato[m: Changing your default route to go through the VPN doesn't remove the connected route that exists for the physical connection. It can't, in fact, because you lose all connectivity - including through the VPN - if that connected route is missing.
[01:07] <hotbakedpotato[m> its fixed now so..but i was curious as to how that traffic was slipping through.. other applications seemed blocked..and i had it to only allow connections to the ip:port of the vpn.
[01:08] <hotbakedpotato[m> then once connected other apps could use the vpn
[01:11] <Sven_vB> hotbakedpotato[m, oh here you are. :)
[01:12] <hotbakedpotato[m> im here :P
[01:13] <Sven_vB> metastable, what's a "connected" route? is it the default gateway for the physical network interface that provides the uplink for the VPN tunnel?
[01:13] <metastable> Sven_vB: Any interface in the up state automatically creates a route entry for the local subnet defined by that interface's address and prefix.
[01:14] <Sven_vB> oh, of course
[01:14] <metastable> Sven_vB: That route simply states that the next-hop interface for all traffic destined for the local subnet should simply be sent out that connected interface.
[01:14] <Sven_vB> yeah that makes sense.
[01:15] <Sven_vB> so if some machine like a "home router" acts as a DN server, it would be reachable.
[01:15] <hotbakedpotato[m> i think i may know how..i have it setup to where the local network can access out. for home networking..maybe that is how it got out
[01:15] <hotbakedpotato[m> 192.168.1.0/24 out?
[01:16] <hotbakedpotato[m> like for home networking
[01:20] <metastable> That's the connected route that I'm referring to.
[01:20] <metastable> Your system has to know how to route the encapsulating VPN traffic, so the connected route - to your gateway - has to be preserved even when the VPN is running.
[01:22] <hotbakedpotato[m> yes thats probably it metastable  i got the dns leak fixed you think i should block off that traffic too? would anything else go through it to the internet?
[01:23] <hotbakedpotato[m> i thought leaving it open for home networking would be a good idea but i dont want traffic slipping to the internet through it
[01:23] <metastable> hotbakedpotato[m: You can't, or you won't be able to send any traffic through the VPN.
[01:23] <hotbakedpotato[m> well i have the firewall set to allow the ip:port of the vpn to get through to connect.
[01:24] <hotbakedpotato[m> the vpn has exceptions
[01:24] <hotbakedpotato[m> but its specefic ips to a specific ports
[01:24] <hotbakedpotato[m> for the vpn
[01:24] <hotbakedpotato[m> then when its established other apps can use tun0
[01:25] <hotbakedpotato[m> your saying blocking home networking would still block it?
[01:27] <metastable> It's possible, yes. You can't wall off traffic to the local gateway, or you have no way of routing VPN traffic to the other end.
[01:27] <hotbakedpotato[m> i understand thanks.
[01:49] <boblamont> I have two drives, one was a backup of the other. On those, the files were grouped by backup date. I've since sorted the files on the first drive into logical groups (i.e. graphics, links, notes, etc). Is there a (relatively fast, relatively simple) way of verifying that there's a copy of every file on the second drive (still sorted by date) on the first drive (now sorted by groups)?
[01:52] <boblamont> If I hadn't organized the files on the first drive, I could just compare the directories, but now that I have changed the order, that seems shot. Manually, I could just look for each file one at a time, but I'm hoping for something similar to how something like fslint can identify duplicates, even with different names, but basically instead of finding all duplicates, just finding any match, then moving on to the next file. I expect there'
[01:57] <coraxx> boblamont: have you also changed the filenames for some of the files ?
[02:00] <boblamont> coraxx: yes, though only if there were multiple copies on the first drive, so that probably wouldn't be much of an issue (the originals should still have the matching name, too)
[02:04] <coraxx> boblamont: then I would must likely go for the "find" solution ... where you list all filenames ( maybe get size, modified date to) with find ." from both folders and stream it to a textfile... then use that to match up.
[02:08] <coraxx> boblamont: depending on the filestructure size and the complexity of the filenames, I would maybe put the if in a temporary database like SQLite ... so I could use SQL to query the data for a more complex comparison.
[02:08] <coraxx> *put the if = put the file
[02:15] <boblamont> coraxx: I should be able to use diff on the lists I get from the find, right? If the files are the way I think they are, only the first drive would have anything unique or different.
[02:17] <coraxx> boblamont: if you have the same number of files in both textfiles on the are sorted the same, then you can use diff ... otherwise its gotta go through a script or SQL.
[02:17] <coraxx> *on = and
[02:19] <hiig> Does anyone have some time to assist with an issue I've got setting up 17.10?
[02:19] <metastable> What issue would that be?
[02:20] <hiig> Every time I install the nVidia drivers, the system would freeze a few seconds after the desktop comes up
[02:20] <boblamont> coraxx: ok, well, I'll start by making the lists. Thanks.
[02:20] <hiig> Tried installing 390, 387 and 384, using both the PPA and the .run file from nVidia
[02:20] <coraxx> boblamont: yw :-)
[02:21] <hiig> I've also had this issue on Lubuntu 17.10 and Mint 18.2 and 18.3
[02:22] <kostkon> hiig, we can only offer you support for Ubuntu here
[02:22] <kostkon> hiig, and its official derivatives, including Lubuntu but not Mint
[02:23] <hiig> Yeah, that's fine. I was just pointing out that this was a problem spanning multiple distros. I'm attempting this at the moment on Ubuntu 17.10
[02:27] <adalbert> higg: does ubuntu have the program software-properties-gtk ? There's a tab under there for additional drivers including drivers for proprietary hardware, try installing from there ?
[02:28] <hiig> I have tried that one as well, installing the recommended driver. Forgot which version it was, but there was only one option anyway.
[02:35] <david_> ola boa noite
[02:48] <Bashing-om> hiig: There can be but one driver installed . Let's ,atch the card to a driver . pastenin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - .
[02:48] <Bashing-om> match*
[02:52] <p0a> Hello, I'm using mini.iso
[02:53] <p0a> I'm trying to install it from USB. It's stuck in "Retrieving file 1 of 13". How big is that file? can I check progress?
[02:55] <amadel> Amadel
[03:10] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> guys  iv converted an external hd to an internal now i cant access  it what can i do will post disk re drve
[03:10] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> https://imgur.com/nEjL6u5
[03:11] <pinPoint> is there a clear path to upgrade properly from 14.04  to 16.04 without breaking libs or dependency?
[03:11] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> it was an external that i wud plug into usb now its connected via sata
[03:11] <pinPoint> I've issues from perl breaking to libglib2.0-dev missing, or libpcre3 going wacky.
[03:12] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> it should have two ntfs partitions and one fat32
[03:12] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> total 3TB
[03:14] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> also noticed it is allocated to sda which is probobly what my primary os is was allocated as
[03:14] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> sda1
[03:15] <nojjjjjjjjjjj> need to access it from ubuntu
[03:26] <isnice> hi all. anyone deal with insanely slow SD card read speeds w/ exfat partitions? works fine with fat or ext3/4. i had to install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils to get it to work at all and am wondering if the issue lies there somewhere
[03:27] <isnice> ubuntu 17.10, latest kernel
[03:29] <|flyte|> fresh install of 17.10 desktop. When I try to log in via the login screen, it accepts my password and then the whole system seems to freeze.. no keyboard / mouse input are recognized. If I boot up to the log in screen, however leave it and ALT F2 to goto tty, I can log in. I can also log in via ssh from remote. Problem seems to only be when I attempt to goto desktop (gnome now?). How would I pinpoint the problem?
[03:29] <Boyette> hi
[03:31] <blue1> |flyte|: sounds like the gui is the culprit.  have you looked at the logs for any error messages?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> |flyte|: Graphic's driver ? what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' in that F2 console interface ?
[03:32] <|flyte|> blue1, which log should I be looking at? I'm not exactly sure..
[03:32] <|flyte|> Bashing-om, standby.. I need to restart the machine.. currently frozen.
[03:32] <blue1> try something like:  sudo tail -150 /var/log/syslog | less  that shows the last 150 lines
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | |flyte|
[03:34] <|flyte|> Bashing-om, could I do that via ssh insted of being in the F3 console?
[03:35] <Bashing-om> |flyte|: Yes .. ssh will also suffice .
[03:36] <rfleming> Greetings
[03:36] <rfleming> my 17.10 is misbehaving
[03:36] <|flyte|> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/AeHVLK63
[03:37] <rfleming> on apt autoremove I get `run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 4.13.0-19-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-19-generic`
[03:37] <rfleming> and it's stuck
[03:37] <rfleming> (hasn't moved in 24 hours)
[03:42] <|flyte|> blue1, Bashing-om : output of sudo tail -150 /var/log/syslog | less: https://pastebin.com/L2G5zNfq
[03:45] <|flyte|> blue1, Bashing-om - anything jump out in those logs?
[03:45] <Bashing-om> |flyte|: Do not see an issue in the log -- what am Il ooking for ?
[03:46] <|flyte|> Bashing-om, a reason that would explain why trying to log in freezes the machine.. X/Gnome error suspect?
[03:48] <|flyte|> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/AeHVLK63 is the output of the command sudo lshw -C display as requested
[03:48] <Bashing-om> |flyte|: Likely reason is no driver for the GUI . ' sudo lshw -C display ' . // ^^ looking .
[03:49] <|flyte|> I do get the login screen (X, not tty).. so it would suggest the driver is working (?).. unless the desktop env (gnome?) is looking for another.
[03:53] <Bashing-om> |flyte|: well old card but nouveau is loaded . GUI shou;d work with it .
[03:56] <|flyte|> ok.. I tail -f the syslog while I tried to log into D..
[03:57] <matyd> anyone listen to podcasts? looking for a good program to use for listening to podcasts on my laptop
[03:57] <cfhowlett> vlc matyd
[03:58] <matyd> awesome thanks cfhowlett
[03:58] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[03:58] <phelix> Could anyone help me make a rc.local command that will launch a program in a detached screen as root on startup?
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:56:47 maximus gsd-keyboard[1544]: g_dbus_proxy_get_cached_property: assertion 'G_IS_DBUS_PROXY (proxy)' failed
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:57:49 maximus gnome-session[1320]: gnome-session-binary[1320]: WARNING: Application 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys.desktop' failed to register before timeout
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:57:49 maximus gnome-session[1320]: gnome-session-binary[1320]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:57:49 maximus gnome-session-binary[1320]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys.desktop
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:57:49 maximus gnome-session-binary[1320]: WARNING: Application 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.MediaKeys.desktop' failed to register before timeout
[03:59] <|flyte|> Feb 12 19:57:49 maximus gnome-session-binary[1320]: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[03:59] <cfhowlett> |flyte|, use pastbinit
[04:00] <phelix> This is what I have so far. Doesn't seem to be working though  /bin/su root -c "/usr/bin/screen -dmS miner -c '/home/phelix/EthControl --accessToken=xxxxxxx --rigName=phelixWorkin'"
[04:16] <O_Gopal> I'm having a problem with ibus-m17n. All was working fine. But then I did something--killed a process in a previous session?--and now m17n doesn't work. None of the languages that use m17n are shown with "Manage languages." And the "chooser" in the top panel that let me choose between languages is missing. I still see the language I've installed that uses m17n, but the gear icon for configuring it is dead. Any suggestions?
[04:26] <DirtyCajun> phelix, 2 questions... 1 why do you want it as an rc.local command, 2. what version of ubuntu are you on to even be making rc.locals
[04:27] <doge-doge> is there an easy way to add a sound to "popup notifications" on ubuntu mate?
[04:28] <doge-doge> I can't believe that's not requested a lot?
[04:29] <doge-doge> it seems to be application-based
[04:29] <doge-doge> whether or not to issue the default sound from your existing sound theme
[04:29] <DirtyCajun> doge-doge, a 1 second google yields https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-add-sound-for-popup-notifications/6120
[04:30] <doge-doge> I saw that, no help really there -- and again they were talking about an email client
[04:31] <doge-doge> um, are notifications queued in an indicator applet by chance?
[04:31] <Boyette> what kind of pop up notification?
[04:31] <doge-doge> the problem is that your away from your machine for 10 seconds and miss it completely
[04:32] <doge-doge> "mate-notification-properties"
[04:32] <cfhowlett> popup duration is editable.
[04:33] <rangemonger> kde saves them kind of like w10
[04:33] <doge-doge> actually cfhowlett, I don't think even that is specified lol
[04:33] <Boyette> how about this
[04:33] <Boyette> https://askubuntu.com/questions/128474/how-to-customize-on-screen-notifications
[04:35] <Thoomsen> /me is now away: Ich bin zur Zeit nicht online. Hinterlasse mir eine Nachricht.
[04:36] <hggdh> Thoomsen: you actually would want to use /away, not /me
[04:37] <doge-doge> Boyette, an interesting app for sure but likely out of date and again no sound by the looks of it...oh well, I'll just have to petition Wimpy again...
[04:40] <doge-doge> I was thinking have a continuously running python script that monitors the wm whenever "notify-send" is invoked and then use sox to play the alert sound...but that gets complicated
[04:45] <doge-doge> ...not playing the sound, but knowing whenever "notify-send" is invoked
[04:55] <doge-doge> lol: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12418
[04:57] <cfhowlett> doge-doge, errr, no.  you said you're on Mate?  Mate uses gnome, does it not?  Not xfce
[04:57] <doge-doge> yeah I know I was just reading around
[04:57] <doge-doge> does gnome vanilla have them?
[04:58] <cfhowlett> pretty sure all the major DE's have notifications
[04:58] <doge-doge> yeah I was talking about the option for sound alerts
[05:01] <doge-doge> I'm really glad that the option is there for apps to specify, thunderbird in particular
[05:02] <doge-doge> they still don't have an official tray icon support
[05:02] <doge-doge> ubuntu also has a specific indicator extension right in thunderbird itself as well
[05:05] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:06] <silv3r_m00n> is there someway, that at end of day when i turn off my computer, it saves the state and next day, reboots the same way it was yesterday, like all apps, windows etc open
[05:09] <O_Gopal> silv3r_m00n: https://websiteforstudents.com/enable-hibernation-ubuntu-17-10-desktop/
[06:41] <Gizmo_Romick> Is there a guide for someone interested in contributing to Ubuntu doing bug reports and such and then later, possibly, contributing code to open source?
[06:42] <hateball> !contribute
[06:42] <hateball> Gizmo_Romick: ^
[06:43] <Gizmo_Romick> thank you
[07:28] <Gotes> Hello. Question: Currently the shortcut <Alt + Left Mouse Click> Are used to move the window. I need this shortcut for a game. How can I change/cancel the shortcut?
[07:30] <whateverzclever> how do i use my phone as a speaker for my computer and can it be done via USB?
[07:30] <eraserpencil> how do i enable x11vnc on startup?
[07:30] <Apachez> in ubuntu 17.10, when you have locked your screen and the password dialog refuse to show up when you press enter - is there some other shortcut to force it to show up?
[07:33] <whateverzclever> eraserpencil, something like sudo update-rc.d /etc/init.d/x11vnc
[07:34] <whateverzclever> man update-rc.d
[07:44] <Mouzz> There's something that annoys me on a server I upgraded from 14.04 to 16.04 regarding mariadb. Maybe anyone has a solution.
[07:45] <Mouzz> The logrotate cronjob keeps producing an error every day
[07:45] <Mouzz>  /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed. error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[07:46] <Mouzz> People suggest adding the password (in plaintext) to /etc/mysql/debian.cnf but there must be a better way.
[07:47] <Mouzz> "sudo mysql -u root" works without having to provide a password and so does "mysql -u root" after "sudo -i"
[08:01] <zetheroo> Which file in here is the actual driver? https://paste.ubuntu.com/26547012/
[08:18] <anurodh> any one have BCM43142 802.11 bgn wi-fi adapter drive package for ubuntu 17.10
[08:19] <ducasse> !broadcom
[08:19] <ducasse> anurodh: tried this? ^^
[08:27] <ris> test
[08:56] <zetheroo> does anyone know how to install and setup the ODBC driver in 16.04 using the packages in the Ubuntu repo?
[09:00] <mjayk> Haya all, I have a usb device which showed up in dmesg and worked fine. I went home rebooted this morning and it doesnt show up, not even in dmesg.
[09:00] <mjayk> I am a bit confused
[09:02] <demahum> I am looking forward to understand Ubuntu Kernel updates. For the beginning, if I do apt update followed by apt upgrade, and if the kernel update is available, I will get it that way, correct?
[09:04] <gnaaa> i want to add some software via git clone
[09:05] <gnaaa> i guess i make a folder under my user and a folder git and get the clones there
[09:05] <gnaaa> if i add users i might want to use the software also , should i make a git folder under home then ?
[09:05] <gnaaa> or /opt
[09:06] <demahum> gnaaa: /opt seems more appropriate for me then
[09:06] <gnaaa> i take /opt/git
[09:07] <demahum> gnaaa: well, when you clone whatever it is, it will create the dir with its name, so you can go directly with /opt
[09:07] <demahum> e.g. if you are cloning rq, you'll have /opt/rq/
[09:08] <gnaaa> ok
[09:08] <demahum> That seems better to me than to have /opt/git/rq/
[09:08] <gnaaa> i dont get too much in opt in my experience an extra folder is overkill
[09:08] <demahum> exactly
[09:09] <instigator_> Hello. I have recently installed Ubuntu Server 16.04. I have set a static ip has follows: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gX3vMrndWv/ .I then restarted the server and after typing ifconfig, can see that it the static ip is there. However, if I ping a host which I know is up on the same network it doesnt work (says Destination Host Unreachable). What could be the problem?
[09:10] <demahum> instigator_: is that other host ubuntu as well?
[09:11] <demahum> instigator_: you're sure your gateway is 253? It's not 1?
[09:21] <instigator_> demahum: no it is a d-link router. I have also tried pinging Windows machines but got no response. yes the gateway is 253
[09:21] <instigator_> demahum: ubuntu server is the only linux machine on the network
[09:23] <demahum> instigator_: can you paste your ifconfig output as well
[09:23] <ducasse> instigator_: it says 'aut eno1' - should be 'auto eno1'
[09:24] <demahum> ducasse: very good catch
[09:28] <zetheroo> is it possible that the unixODBC package in Ubuntu 16.04 lacks the actual mysql ODBC driver lib ?
[09:34] <gnaaa> i want to install gnu icecat browser. i can get the files and compile it or use git. git is always up to date right?
[09:35] <gnaaa> i think git is cleaner
[09:35] <gnaaa> well icecat can update itself i guess
[09:39] <instigator_> demahum: 'aut eno1' was a typo in the paste, but it is 'auto eno1' in the interfaces config file. I have fixed the typo in the paste and also included the ifconfig output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bdBCm4FvRJ/
[09:41] <demahum> instigator_: ping 8.8.8.8 failes?
[09:41] <demahum> fails*
[09:42] <zetheroo> can someone help me find out which package contains the ODBC mysql driver in 16.04?
[09:43] <instigator_> demahum: yes, pinging 8.8.8.8, since pinging the default gateway also fails
[09:43] <instigator_> demahum: *pinging 8.8.8.8 fails
[09:44] <demahum> instigator_:  no idea then, hope so you'll solve it soon
[09:45] <instigator_> demahum: hope so too. thanks for the assitance
[09:45] <demahum> np
[09:46] <serard> hello
[09:47] <serard> I installed openvpn via "apt-get install openvpn", it started the daemon, and broke my ssh connection. I had to reinstall the system. dedicated private server. How can it be ? :o
[09:50] <jerichowasahoax> serard: is this a client or server config of openvpn
[09:51] <serard> server
[09:51] <serard> I just made "apt-get install openvpn" and it broke
[09:51] <jerichowasahoax> well i'm not sure then, because i thought maybe it was routing your traffic through the vpn and that's what busted it
[09:52] <jerichowasahoax> you might ask #openvpn
[10:18] <ZidaneRick> Hey Guys, just wondering if anyone knows how to get hexchat to show in the tray when minimising to the tray on 17.10? Most of the guides i've seen are for unity not gnome
[10:20] <bluefox83> i wish there was a job near me where i could just admin ubuntu servers and desktops/laptops >.>
[10:21] <bluefox83> closest thing to me was a job posting at the university of kentucky for a student to teach a professor how to use libreoffice lol
[10:30] <matti1> ping
[10:31] <matti1> hello
[10:32] <matti1> I'm trying to build a custom liveusb, can someone give me a few pointers?
[10:32] <hateball> !remaster
[10:32] <hateball> matti1: ^
[10:32] <matti1> hateball: thanks!
[10:33] <matti1> I only found links for burning existing isos
[10:34] <matti1> uck has been discontinued, someone might want to update that
[10:52] <matti1> It's me again
[10:53] <matti1> debootstrap gives error about being mounted with noexec or nodev
[10:54] <matti1> what's the best way to get around this?
[10:54] <matti1> mounting an empty iso without the flags?
[10:55] <blackflow> matti1: mount the partition without noexec,nodev?
[10:56] <matti1> i am an idiot
[10:56] <matti1> probably shouldnt do this in my home dir
[10:57] <matti1> works on /work, since my root is on a dif partition
[10:58] <matti1> what's $RELEASE for ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[10:59] <matti1> nvm
[10:59] <matti1> can be found from /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts
[11:01] <matti1> my problem with irc is that I tend to ask before thinking
[11:02] <ecormier> pebcak
[11:03] <matti1> yeah, ID10T error
[11:03] <conyo> hello all can anyone help me with this my hard drive isnt showing the partitions it had on it seconds last reboot
[11:03] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/Nb6BM
[11:04] <Mr_Pan> http://i.imgur.com/Wwt2W.png
[11:04] <matti1> choosing to use a cli client on a phone makes opening links hard
[11:04] <matti1> ugh
[11:05] <tomeaton17> Where should I install user systemd scripts? I am trying to convert some old upstart style scripts to systemd.
[11:06] <matti1> conyo: try restoring the table with testdisk
[11:07] <conyo> is it a case of sudo apt-get install testdisk
[11:07] <matti1> yes
[11:07] <matti1> i'll walk you through using it in a bit
[11:08] <matti1> ping me when you have it installed
[11:08] <conyo> cool thanks just a quick one tho can gparted or disk do same (repair partitions table) or fdisk
[11:09] <conyo> im curious and im new to this stuff thats y im asking
[11:09] <conyo> why
 ready mate
[11:15] <matti1> conyo: I dont think gparted can do this
[11:15] <yang2> Does Ubuntu maintain a list/page of Ubuntu consultants?
[11:15] <matti1> okay, so which disk is this? /dev/sda?
[11:17] <conyo> by the way <matti1> the drive used to be an external but i took it out of the shell and hooked up power and sata now its inside my tower
[11:17] <matti1> conyo: run "sudo testdisk" and choose no log
[11:18] <matti1> then choose your disk from the list
[11:19] <matti1> conyo: are you following?
[11:19] <conyo> just a sec pls
[11:19] <matti1> yeah no prob
[11:23] <conyo> just before we start can you have a look at this keep in mind i used to have 2 ntfs partitions and one fat32
[11:23] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/0yxzh
[11:23] <matti1> sure
[11:24] <matti1> this should be nonidestructive
[11:24] <conyo> okay
[11:24] <conyo> can we start over with commands please
[11:25] <conyo> im guessing sdc
[11:25] <conyo> based on the  screenshot of my disk
[11:26] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/0yxzh
[11:26] <matti1> uh
[11:26] <matti1> sdc has partitions
[11:26] <matti1> arent we looking for one with a corrupted table or something
[11:27] <matti1> lemme look at your first pic again
[11:28] <matti1> oh yeah, sdc
[11:29] <matti1> well, letd analyze it
[11:29] <conyo> it has partitions but i cant browse them from gui or the terminal
[11:29] <matti1> ok
[11:29] <matti1> "sudo testdisk /dev/sdc"
[11:29] <conyo> and the size looks off to me i see no mention ot ntfs1  ntfs2 fat32
[11:30] <conyo> im there what shall i choose
[11:30] <conyo> table type
[11:30] <matti1> intel, probably
[11:30] <matti1> :(
[11:30] <matti1> * :)
[11:30] <conyo> okay
[11:30] <matti1> then analyze
[11:30] <conyo> ok
[11:31] <matti1> quick search
[11:31] <matti1> or backup first
[11:31] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/MINJN
[11:32] <matti1> conyo: choose backup first
[11:32] <matti1> just in case
[11:33] <conyo> ok i need to go backwards lol how do i cancel at this point so can bup
[11:33] <matti1> ctrl c :)
[11:34] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/8VJrO
[11:35] <matti1> too much jpeg, cant read :/
[11:35] <matti1> are those the partitions you're looking for?
[11:35] <xeon_kyo> i need a bit help about writing bash , does somebody know bash writing here?
[11:35] <matti1> xeon_kyo: I know some, hit me up
[11:37] <conyo> start fresh matti you mean
[11:37] <matti1> I am a bit of a meanie, sorry :)
[11:37] <conyo> nah not at all
[11:38] <matti1> your screenshot is too blurry for me to read
[11:38] <matti1> are the partitions testdisk found the missing ones?
[11:39] <xeon_kyo> i want to make a script , which read a multilined variable until #PROGRAM
[11:39] <matti1> btw I love vim, removing n lines is so easy
[11:39] <conyo> i think its what im after but im not certain looking at there is also a fat 32 partition rather large
[11:39] <conyo> i think so
[11:40] <xeon_kyo> tried to figure out with AWK but the problem is AWK read lines after #PROGRAM
[11:40] <conyo> if i go a head can we go backwards later on
[11:40] <matti1> conyo: well you did backup so lets try writing the table
[11:41] <conyo> im not sure i did bup i didnt see any output or indication i did
[11:41] <conyo> gnna bup now one more time just to be sure
[11:41] <xeon_kyo> or more simpler i need to tell my script to rewrite the file after line 25
[11:41] <matti1> xeon_kyo: are you sure you wanna do this in bash? :P
[11:41] <xeon_kyo> yes i need it :(
[11:42] <xeon_kyo> in php its easy but bash a lbit hardy for me :(
[11:42] <matti1> conyo: it should have created backup.log
[11:43] <matti1> xeon_kyo: is #PROGRAM on its own line?
[11:44] <xeon_kyo> yes the #PROGRAM is at the 25 line and always will be in at line 25
[11:44] <matti1> then take only 24 lines
[11:44] <xeon_kyo> how can i tell to bash?
[11:44] <matti1> head -n 24
[11:44] <matti1> pipe it through
[11:45] <matti1> conyo: how's it going?
[11:45] <xeon_kyo> trying out now
[11:45] <matti1> got your backup.log?
[11:47] <conyo> im so scared
[11:47] <conyo> i think so
[11:47] <conyo> where would i find it
[11:48] <conyo> just want to be sure
[11:48] <matti1> conyo: should be in your working dirrctory
[11:48] <conyo> like home
[11:48] <matti1> the dir you ran testdisk in
[11:48] <matti1> probs home
[11:49] <conyo> but if i can access it currently from terminal how do i check
[11:49] <conyo> can u pls be patient and walk me through
[11:49] <matti1> close testdisk & ls
[11:49] <xeon_kyo> this head doesnt seems to working :(
[11:50] <matti1> well I'm trying, the language barrier might make it seem like I am not
[11:50] <xeon_kyo> can i share my code with u?
[11:50] <matti1> xeon_kyo: plz pastebin/gist relevant code
[11:51] <conyo> hang ten getting there wont be a second
[11:51] <xeon_kyo> +
[11:51] <matti1> +?
[11:53] <conyo> feel like a tard but yes i have my bup
[11:53] <matti1> dont feel bad
[11:53] <matti1> its only human to be worried
[11:54] <conyo> keep helping other guy while i get back to where we were
[11:54] <matti1> now run testdisk again, this time dont choose backup
[11:54] <conyo> will do brb
[11:55] <matti1> can't really help xeon_kyo atm as he's uploading his code
[11:55] <catmando> hey akk
[11:55] <catmando> all
[11:55] <matti1> gonna work on my liveusb in tje meantime
[11:55] <matti1> hey catmando
[11:55] <xeon_kyo> https://pastebin.com/4e002qKk
[11:55] <catmando> does anyone have any experience deploying the ubuntu ova into vmware?
[11:55] <matti1> whats up
[11:55] <xeon_kyo> check it
[11:55] <catmando> it seems...impossible
[11:55] <matti1> xeon_kyo: will do
[11:55] <xeon_kyo> i wroted what i want concretely
[11:56] <xeon_kyo> thanks
[11:59] <tomeaton17> Trying to convert an upstart script to systemd. This is the upstart part https://gist.github.com/tomeaton17/6955736c1bd40aaea96de73fb1e7a425 I put the bash into a seperate script and tried to run it, but the start command is not found, is this part of upstart?
[11:59] <matti1> xeon_kyo: I'm not sure what you mean by rewriting with echo
[12:00] <matti1> xeon_kyo: can you post example output file?
[12:00] <xeon_kyo> i want to continue file after #PROGRAM with pasting my multilined variable
[12:00] <conyo> matti i got to have a smoke im about to sh?+ my pants with anxiety
[12:00] <conyo> brb
[12:00] <matti1> conyo: okay lol
[12:02] <matti1> xeon_kyo: how about "head $file -n 24 --quiet > $file && echo $MULTILINEVAR >> $file"
[12:02] <matti1> where $file is your file
[12:02] <matti1> if the amouny of lines changes, we could check the line number with grep
[12:07] <conyo> matty1 can you please look at this 1 img paste please when i did the scan it shows 3 lines one is a linux swap one is ntfs about the correct size of on of the two ntfs sizes and the third looks as big as the whole drive not leaving enough for the the other ntfs partition and fat size
[12:08] <matti1> xeon_kyo: you can replace 24 with $(expr $(grep -n "#PROGRAM" $file | cut -f1 -d:) - 1)
[12:09] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/kklXM
[12:10] <conyo> cant see second ntfs partition
[12:10] <matti1> well rip other partition :/
[12:10] <conyo> each one should be about a gig
[12:10] <conyo> two total
[12:10] <conyo> 3tb total
[12:11] <matti1> conyo: you can use side arrows to delete partitions
[12:11] <conyo> what you mean champ? rip
[12:12] <matti1> conyo: if the one giant partition is overlapping the others, delete it by tapping left arrow until the "P" changed to "D"
[12:13] <matti1> deleting doesnt destroy any data, just removed it from the table
[12:13] <matti1> if everything somehow blows we can still salvage all files
[12:14] <conyo> okay
[12:14] <matti1> xeon_kyo: did you try my bash one liner?
[12:14] <conyo> so i delete the big one and write the correct size one
[12:14] <matti1> conyo: yes
[12:14] <conyo> how can we find the other ntfs one
[12:14] <xeon_kyo> the last line doesnt clear cause i dont see where i can write my new variables which will be writen after the #PROGRAM line
[12:15] <conyo> correct size one (second ntfs partition i need)
[12:15] <conyo> deeper scan
[12:15] <matti1> xeon_kyo: define the variable before this one: VARIABLE="type multiline here and close with "
[12:16] <matti1> conyo: yeah deeper search on the next screen
[12:17] <matti1> xeon_kyo: before "this one" I mean before the line with head
[12:18] <xeon_kyo> i meaned on this " $(expr $(grep -n "#PROGRAM" $file | cut -f1 -d:) - 1) "
[12:18] <xeon_kyo> now im trying this "head $file -n 24 --quiet > $file && echo $MULTILINEVAR >> $file"
[12:18] <matti1> oh, that one goes in the place of 24
[12:19] <conyo> so what letter do  i need next to partition i want to keep 'partition i want to delete
[12:19] <xeon_kyo> this line is clear for me "head $file -n 24 --quiet > $file && echo $MULTILINEVAR >> $file"
[12:19] <xeon_kyo> but
[12:19] <matti1> conyo: P for primary, L for logical, D for DELETE
[12:19] <xeon_kyo> my device doesnt like it
[12:19] <matti1> xeon_kyo: wait what?
[12:20] <darkice> hi, i was trying to install cuda on a machine and ended up doing dpkg -i on the debian files. I ran sudo apt-get -f install after dpkg and it couldn't fetch some local files
[12:20] <conyo> not sure if i should choose L or P they are just storage partitions not sure if i chose primary or logical can you help with that
[12:20] <darkice> apt-get gives the message that some packagesneed fixing
[12:20] <xeon_kyo> "head text.txt -n 24 --quiet > text.txt && echo $myvar >> text.txt" i put this code to my bash line
[12:20] <matti1> darkice: please use a PPA, dont do local debs. uninstall the local ones first
[12:20] <shaheen> Hello!
[12:21] <darkice> how do i mass uninstall all the debs?
[12:21] <matti1> conyo: should be primary unless you've made them logical while creating
[12:21] <shaheen> is there a way for the terminal to auto color syntax, like it is shown here https://github.com/Mayccoll/Gogh
[12:21] <conyo> ok
[12:21] <xeon_kyo> head: invalid option -- '-'
[12:21] <xeon_kyo> got this back
[12:22] <matti1> xeon_kyo: echo might be trying to execute your var, try without echo first
[12:22] <darkice> i installed a lot of debs from a folder. How do i uninstall all of them at once?
[12:23] <conyo> doing a deeper search not
[12:23] <conyo> now
[12:23] <xeon_kyo> i found the " --quiet " is the problem
[12:24] <matti1> darkice: for DEB in $(ls /the/path/with/debs | grep .deb | xargs); do dpkg --uninstall; done
[12:24] <matti1> darkice: I mean dpkg --uninstall $DEB
[12:24] <conyo> got a warning number of bytes per sector mismatches 4096 (NTFS) 1=512 (HD) currently scanning
[12:25] <conyo> currently deep scanning
[12:25] <matti1> uh ignore for now :)
[12:25] <conyo> ok let u know when fin
[12:26] <xeon_kyo> matti1 thanks
[12:26] <xeon_kyo> i fixed it
[12:26] <xeon_kyo> head helped me out!
[12:26] <xeon_kyo> god bless u ;) :)
[12:26] <matti1> xeon_kyo: works now? cool
[12:27] <xeon_kyo> yes yes must writed line by line cause my linux satellite receiver doesnt know these extra commands
[12:27] <xeon_kyo> thanks mate!
[12:27] <matti1> other way would have been a readline loop, but if it's always 24 lines this should do fine
[12:27] <matti1> xeon_kyo: no prob :)
[12:27] <darkice> dpkg doesn't have an option uninstall
[12:28] <matti1> darkice: replace with correct option :D
[12:28] <matti1> it was just pseudocode
[12:28] <Borw3> darkice: sudo apt-get autoremove "name of package you installed with dpkg"
[12:29] <matti1> the names should be visible in dpkg log me thinks
[12:30] <matti1> dpkg -P should purge packages
[12:31] <EriC^^> darkice: give this a shot    for i in *.deb; do dpkg -P $(dpkg-deb -f "$i" Package); done
[12:32] <conyo> matti1 think i best check back with you in 30 currently at 7500 of 364800
[12:32] <matti1> how did I mess up the var in *.ext part? I've gotten rusty
[12:33] <matti1> conyo: I'll try to still be here in 30; if not, ask someone else :D
[12:33] <darkice> hey Eric, it removes some packages but some failed to purge because of dependency problems
[12:33] <matti1> gonna be building my liveusb
[12:34] <EriC^^> darkice: they might be packages that are already used by the system, or try to run the loop again
[12:35] <conyo> okay mate thanks for your help can you give me a run down of what else to do
[12:35] <conyo> if i find my other ntfs make it a primary
[12:35] <conyo> and how do i search for fat
[12:36] <conyo> not intel
[12:37] <EriC^^> are you using testdisk conyo ?
[12:37] <conyo> also how to restore the backup
[12:37] <conyo> yes
[12:37] <conyo> currently deep scanning but i will be ages
[12:37] <EriC^^> what are you trying to recover?
[12:37] <conyo> till deep scan is complete 3TB
[12:38] <conyo> partitiions that stopped showing up after i put the external usb drive inside the tower and hooked up sata and power
[12:39] <conyo> did this with two other externals and no drama
[12:39] <EriC^^> conyo: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo parted -ls' ?
[12:39] <conyo> had an issue with this external plug was faulty
[12:39] <conyo> so just hooked it up via sata
[12:41] <conyo> when pluged in it could be seen in gparted but the partitions didnt show up correct sizes
[12:41] <conyo> should of had one fat 32 and two ntfs partitions
[12:42] <conyo> when initially scanned drive with teststick sizes of partitions appeared wrong except for one which looked correct
[12:42] <conyo> took a backup of table before we started
[12:43] <conyo> now performing a deeper scan to see if can find other correct sized ntfs partition
[12:44] <conyo> and i could never access the drives via gui or terminal since putting inside tower
[12:48] <realies> how to disable pti in ubuntu?
[12:48] <realies> added nopti to the boot params but am not sure if there's a way to confirm it
[12:50] <ecormier> realies: dmesg | grep iso
[12:50] <realies> ecormier, wtf https://dpaste.de/jLo4/raw :)
[12:50] <realies> oh that's previous boots
[12:50] <realies> thanks
[12:50] <ecormier> yw
[12:51] <realies> not sure why after the machine froze my gpu has 30-35% lower performance
[12:51] <realies> tried different slot, same result
[12:55] <matti1> the LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch is too outdated
[12:55] <matti1> where is isolinux.bin these days
[12:56] <matti1> nvm I didnt have it installed, how did I miss it
[12:56] <matti1> the path noe has ALL CAPS
[12:57] <matti1> conyo: I don't remember all the steps, but I can help when the scan is done
[12:58] <guest-xxfbec_> greetings coders
[12:59] <matti1> backups are recovered after the quick scan screen by pressing L and writing changes to disk
[12:59] <guest-xxfbec_> how is everyones day
[12:59] <matti1> guest-xxfbec_: did u just assume my hobby/profession??? /sarcasm
[12:59] <matti1> I identify as a sysadmin
[13:00] <guest-xxfbec_> maybe i did ;)
[13:00] <oerheks> guest-xxfbec_, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:00] <guest-xxfbec_> aa no is it a support channel
[13:01] <oerheks> there is #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[13:02] <carlos> hola
[13:02] <carlos> hay alguien?
[13:04] <realies> weird, https://dpaste.de/6PKD/raw
[13:12] <matti1> I might have borked my install
[13:13] <matti1> sudo complains of no tty/askpass defined
[13:13] <ketzal> buenos  dias. por  favor  una  guia de  ubuntu 16.4 en  español
[13:14] <oerheks> !es
[13:16] <realies> how do i see radeon clock info from terminal?
[13:18] <BillD73> realies: lscpu?
[13:18] <realies> BillD73 no gpu info in the cpu info
[13:20] <BillD73> oh sorry  Idk otherwise   google lol
[13:22] <zykotick9> realies: try "sudo lshw -class display"
[13:22] <zizu> hello !
[13:23] <realies> zykotick9, no clock info
[13:24] <BillD73> realies: For ATI/AMD GPUs, aticonfig --odgc will fetch the clock rates, and aticonfig --odgtwill fetch the temperature data.
[13:24] <realies> BillD73, ubuntu?
[13:24] <zykotick9> realies: ummm.  sorry.  well best of luck.
[13:24] <BillD73> realies: https://askubuntu.com/questions/5417/how-to-get-the-gpu-info
[13:26] <oerheks> aticonfig is no more in the radeondriver ..
[13:26] <oerheks> sudo lshw -class display | grep "clock"
[13:26] <realies> clock: 33MHz doesn't sound real
[13:32] <BillD73> realies: i ran it on my main with ati 7650 and it returned 33 on both gpu
[13:32] <matti1> does the LiveCD customization from scratch guide still work?
[13:32] <hiig> What exactly is the correct way to clone an entire drive? I can't seem get get my new drive bootable. Using gparted, I created ext4 and swap as sdb1 and sdb2, then used dd to copy the ext4 in sda1 over to sdb1.
[13:32] <matti1> I've come across a lot of non-functioning things
[13:33] <matti1> hiig: you need to set the bootable flag and run grub-install
[13:33] <matti1> in a chroot
[13:33] <matti1> probs
[13:34] <hiig> Give me a few minutes, and I'll try that out. I need to redo the dd stage
[13:34] <matti1> why are you using gparted?
[13:34] <matti1> I'd try clonezilla
[13:35] <matti1> or gparted+rsync
[13:35] <matti1> not dd
[13:35] <zykotick9> hiig: ahhh, i think your dd'ing to a filesystem is a little "off" as well, just sayin'
[13:37] <hiig> mattti1: gparted is not good? i just wanted the gui for it
[13:37] <matti1> clonezilla had a gui
[13:37] <hiig> unfamiliar with it
[13:38] <matti1> I'm not blaming you for wanting a gui, but what exactly are you doing with gparted in this situation
[13:38] <vitalkanev> clonezilla is like... NCurses (or so) based
[13:38] <matti1> I remember using a gui with it, maybe it was 3rd party
[13:39] <matti1> anyway, you could also just dd the whole disk
[13:40] <hiig> ahh, i neglected to mention that i needed to shrink the original ext4. old drive is 80 gig. new drive is 60
[13:40] <hiig> which is why i couldnt dd the whole disk
[13:40] <matti1> oh okay
[13:40] <hiig> so i used gparted to shrink the old ext4, then create the partitions on the new drive
[13:40] <matti1> well, shrink and then dd the whole thing :)
[13:41] <matti1> just set the right block size and count
[13:41] <matti1> easy as rocket science
[13:41] <barnex> Hello, is there a way in pulse to record sound from just one application? I'm thinking virtual device with a monitor that then forwards the sound to real device for it to get mixed?
[13:41] <hiig> block size only affects the write performance during the cloning, correct? doesnt affect usage afterwards?
[13:43] <matti1> hiig: amount of data read and written is blocksize * count
[13:44] <matti1> with bs=2M you need twice as big count as with bs=4M
[13:45] <matti1> oh man
[13:45] <matti1> after all this work it turns out the outdated guide doesn't create a bootable iso
[13:45] <matti1> rip
[13:46] <hiig> right, so bs=4M count=10 would essentially mean that 40 KB of data is copied? So I would need to pick values that would be equal to or less than the capacity of the target drive/partition?
[13:46] <SwedeMike> hiig: 40 megabyte of data.
[13:46] <matti1> 40 MB me thinks
[13:47] <hiig> Right, typo. Sorry.
[13:47] <matti1> you need to check your existing disk's bs and count
[13:47] <hiig> How would I do that?
[13:48] <matti1> it wont boot if the partition isn't fully copied
[13:48] <matti1> gparted should tell you
[13:48] <hiig> I'll go check...
[13:49] <matti1> can someone link an up to date working guide for creating custom liveusbs?
[13:50] <HoloIRCUser> can I start gui app in non grafical login
[13:50] <TheSilentDrifter> Hey everyone, I am currently playing around with the sudoers file in a sandboxed environment, and I know that if you run `sudo -l -U <user>` That it shows the current sudoers permission for the specified user. Is there a way to do this for groups? I have tried `sudo -l -g <group-name>`, and it is throwing an error
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:52] <ducasse> HoloIRCUser: not without starting x or wayland first
[13:52] <hiig> Nope, can't find anything in gparted. Anyway, I just loaded clonezilla onto a USB. Will try it out now
[13:53] <frechdachs69> Q: anywhere an rpyc package for Xenial?
[13:53] <matti1> hiig: fdisk should also tell
[13:53] <frechdachs69> HoloIRCUser: you can use xvfb-run
[13:56] <oerheks> matti1, cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image ( as UCK is a dead project)
[13:56] <oerheks> !uck
[13:56] <HoloIRCUser> ducasse: can I port forward x server via ssh
[13:57] <matti1> thanks oerheks
[14:00] <matti1> why didnt anyone mention cubic before
[14:00] <matti1> oh well
[14:00] <matti1> at least I helped someone on here while strugling
[14:01] <objstranger> Guys. I need your help.
[14:01] <objstranger> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1005674/how-to-repair-ubuntu-without-x-server
[14:01] <Nissaar> guys i need some help
[14:03] <Nissaar> im packaging a nodejs snap ' POKEMON SHOWDOWN'. It has well been packaged. The .yaml and the problem is in: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Bs8xhCWnx/
[14:03] <Nissaar> anyone help please ?
[14:04] <Nissaar> anyone ?
[14:05] <matti1> I need to take a break, I hope you find help :)
[14:05] <matti1> bye
[14:08] <Nissaar> im packaging a nodejs snap ' POKEMON SHOWDOWN'. It has well been packaged. The .yaml and the problem is in: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/86msQx28N2/
[14:08] <realies> ok, used the bios switch button on the rx580 and it started working as expected with the powerplay error gone from the logs
[14:09] <realies> any ideas what the fck?
[14:10] <Nissaar> popey:  im packaging a nodejs snap ' POKEMON SHOWDOWN'. It has well been packaged. The .yaml and the problem is in: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/86msQx28N2/
[14:17] <cart_man> I am having a extraordinarily hard time installing a simple sftp like vsftpd on Ubuntu MATE ... could someone please help me out? No matter how I set it up I can not log into it whatsoever
[14:17] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: Have you checked firewall settings? UFW has many a time been a blocker for me
[14:17] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter Well it says inactive
[14:18] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: It was a shot in the dark
[14:18] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: What version of ubuntu are  you on?
[14:18] <cart_man> Ubuntu MATE arm7 16.04
[14:18] <cart_man> 2 days 2 try and install a stupid ftp ...
[14:19] <cart_man> But this specific ubuntu also will not allow me acccess to mysql from anywhere accept 127.0.0.1
[14:19] <cart_man> I dont get it and im pretty much about to burn this place down
[14:19] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: I totally get how frustrating it can be when things don't work easily.
[14:20] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: mysql has access control settings. It is likely you need to adjust those. As far as the ftp server, what does systemctl show?
[14:20] <TheSilentDrifter> cartman: were there any issues with it starting?
[14:22] <metastable> cart_man: mysql includes a field in its user table that specifies where a user can log in from. By default, it's localhost only for security reasons.
[14:22] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter Let me check that out
[14:23] <cart_man> metastable : Oh yea I am familiar with the table and its set as it should be 'user'@'%' etc
[14:23] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter : Now that you mention it ... I have to restart the ssh via /etc/init.d/ssh restart everytime I restart the Device
[14:24] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: you should be restarting sshd with systemctl `sudo systemctl restart sshd` you can then enable it with `sudo systemctl enable sshd`
[14:25] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 MATE 64-bit. I have a problem with my System->Administration menu.
[14:25] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: after it is enabled you shouldn't have to restart it everytime
[14:25] <TheSilentDrifter> Richard_Cavell: What seems to be the problem?
[14:25] <Richard_Cavell> https://ibin.co/3rZZMW0ofdRh.png An item has disappeared. I think it's Synaptic Package Manager. I might have accidentally deleted it. How do I get it back?
[14:26] <TheSilentDrifter> Richard_Cavell: `sudo apt install synaptic`
[14:27] <Richard_Cavell> TheSilentDrifter, Yay! It's back!
[14:27] <Richard_Cavell> Thanks
[14:27] <TheSilentDrifter> Richard_Cavell: No problem :)
[14:30] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: Any update?
[14:33] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter Ok ... I have this friend in #linux channel who pointed out that my Ubuntu Mate needs pam_service_name=ftp to work ...and it did
[14:33] <cart_man> I have NO IDEA why
[14:33] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: Crazy. That was my next suggestion :P
[14:34] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: glad that you found a way to make it work for ya
[14:34] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter What does that do though?
[14:34] <cart_man> Gosh after 2 days hahahah
[14:34] <cart_man> thanks though
[14:34] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: You have to explicitly specify that you are allowing authentication over ftp.
[14:35] <TheSilentDrifter> cart_man: happy hunting :)
[14:36] <cart_man> TheSilentDrifter Thanks allot man!
[14:40] <raanst> Are anybody use X-Chat on Ubuntu 17.10?
[14:41] <oerheks> raanst, xchat is no longer under development, use the fork Hexcaht
[14:41] <raanst> Thank You @oerheks
[14:44] <nerdinja> cart_man: i've been in a similar boat recently, might be able to help
[14:44] <nerdinja> you still working on it?
[14:46] <raanst> Where can I find discussions from Ubuntu developers?
[14:47] <nerdinja> raanst: you might try ##linux ##webdev, #bash, #reddit-sysadmin, something along those lines
[14:48] <nerdinja> if you type /list ubuntu you should get in response a list of irc channels on your selected network with similar names
[14:48] <oerheks> raanst, see mailinglists https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[14:48] <oerheks> nerdinja, i doubt ubuntu development hang out in those channels
[14:50] <Pici> raanst: #ubuntu-devel
[14:50] <cart_man> nerdinja : I have luckily found the problem. Thanks allot for the offer though I really appreciate it !
[14:51] <Pici> !channels
[14:53] <nerdinja> cart_man: no problem, what was the issue if i may ask?
[14:53] <raanst> Thank to us so much, I back to Ubuntu from Windows-side and I wanna know everything about it.
[14:55] <cart_man> nerdinja : So I have been building this system in Ubuntu right.. and it requires MySql and VSFTPD and a couple of other stuff. So then I try and move the entire system to an ARM version using Ubuntu Mate for arm7. AND MAAAAAAN cross compiling as well as just basic MySQL and VSFTPD utils where a nightmare ... BUT I think it was just my lacking experience though. So turns out a single line in hte vsftpd.conf file solved 2 days of struggling hahahaha
[14:56] <zizu> hello
[14:57] <darkice> hey
[14:57] <nerdinja> cart_man: yeah, that whole 'one line breaking the entire chain' happens quite a lot
[14:57] <darkice> i installed some debs with dpkg but while running apt-get -f install, it fails telling me some packages could not be fetched. these packages are all being looked for in a local directory
[14:57] <nerdinja> off topid but does anybody else loathe/despise the default 'exclamation' sound in Windows 10?
[14:58] <nerdinja> god it gets on my nerves...
[14:58] <nerdinja> darkice: hm, do you need to add repositories?
[14:58] <nerdinja> what pkgs?
[14:59] <darkice> I was trying to install cuda on ubuntu 16.04 using the provided deb file on the nvidia website
[15:00] <darkice> it extracted into /var/cudasomething with a lot of debs and release, release.gpg and a .pub file
[15:00] <darkice> i ran dpkg -i *.deb in that directory
[15:00] <darkice> and then apt-get install -f to fix the dependencies
[15:00] <darkice> but the apt-get part fails
[15:01] <oerheks> darkice, please paste the errors, paste.ubuntu.com
[15:02] <darkice> here is the paste : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4WY9nBxYHm/
[15:02] <oerheks> and is there a guide you followed? this one seems working https://askubuntu.com/questions/799184/how-can-i-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:03] <darkice> i followed the instructions on the nvidia page
[15:04] <oerheks> darkice, that requested package is on the nvidia site too.. https://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1604/x86_64/#nvidia-modprobe_387.26-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[15:04] <oerheks> i guess you need to download it , also the other .deb packages
[15:05] <darkice> so i have to manually fix all the dependencies?
[15:05] <oerheks> darkice, yes
[15:06] <oerheks> apt-get only uses our repos, and added repos, you have to do this manually as nvidia gives no repository
[15:06] <darkice> alright
[15:06] <darkice> but is there any way to remove all the packages that have unmet dependencies
[15:07] <nerdinja> can't you do sudo apt purge <pkg name>?
[15:07] <darkice> i found this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/595400/unmet-dependencies-cannot-remove-package-libgbm1
[15:07] <nerdinja> and start over?
[15:07] <darkice> purge isn't working
[15:07] <nerdinja> ah
[15:07] <darkice> because of the unmet dependencies
[15:09] <oerheks> apt remove --force-yes should do the trick
[15:11] <oerheks> still, i would continue and download the 3 missing .deb's
[15:12] <darkice> and install them separately?
[15:12] <oerheks> darkice, yes, with dpkg -i(nstall)
[15:12] <darkice> but another problem is i'm installing cuda 9.0 and these packages are being searched in a previous cuda 9.1 folder
[15:13] <oerheks> oh, use cuda 9.1 ..
[15:13] <darkice> tensorflow doesn't support 9.1 :(
[15:15] <nerdinja> anybody know of a thread somewhere in which people from all over post their desktop(s)/workflows?
[15:16] <fishie> why does my Xubuntu take over a minute to boot up every time on my brand new system?
[15:17] <fishie> it sits on that screen with the circle turning for over a minute.
[15:18] <fishie> I thought maybe it was detecting new stuff but it does this every time.
[15:36] <ducasse> fishie: run 'systemd-analyze blame' to see what takes time to start
[15:37] <fishie> ducasse, thanks.
[15:37] <oerheks> nerdinja, this tread is rather old.. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699172&page=12
[15:39] <fishie> ducasse, strange. it only shows networkmanager-wait-online.service taking 5.7s. next two taking 3-4 seconds.
[15:39] <fishie> but I counted well over 60 seconds. {didn't have a watch with seconds nearby, so wasn't accurate, but counted to 75}
[15:40] <oerheks> 75 sec is not bad, with a hdd (not ssd)
[15:41] <fishie> oer
[15:41] <fishie> oerheks, I have a SSD.
[15:42] <fishie> only my home drive is on an HDD
[15:44] <fishie> ... I linked in my home folder to a folder on the SSD, but that shouldn't make anything worse.
[15:45] <oerheks> 2 storage devices, i think it sounds oke
[15:45] <catmando> guys, what's going on with the cloud-init images?
[15:45] <catmando> they hang at boot
[15:45] <catmando> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1573095
[15:46] <catmando> this was opened in 2016!
[15:46] <catmando> is nobody really using those? why are they even being produced?
[15:46] <fishie> I could have sworn it booted faster on my worse hardware.
[15:47] <lordcirth_work> Oh that bug.  Yeah I remember running into that a year ago
[15:47] <fishie> now I upgrade, from a system I cut corners on 3 years ago, to a new $1K system where I splurged on RAM and CPU and a SSD, and yet it's slower.
[15:48] <catmando> lordcirth_work: mine?
[15:48] <catmando> how did you deal with it?
[15:48] <lordcirth_work> catmando, the workaround at the bottom: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1573095/comments/36
[15:49] <lordcirth_work> fishie, 'systemd-analyze blame' and 'systemd-analyze critical-chain'
[15:49] <lordcirth_work> Oh, someone said that already, sorry
[15:49] <catmando> lordcirth_work: on vmware, tried, no dice
[15:50] <lordcirth_work> You tried the equivalent, adding a pty?
[15:50] <lordcirth_work> Well I don't know VMware, sorry
[15:51] <catmando> lordcirth_work: yep
[15:51] <catmando> in fact, pre-boot i see another error: device not found: /root
[15:53] <jimmy> MSG . 0.0
[15:58] <lordcirth_work> catmando, that seems bad :P
[15:58] <catmando> yeah, i think the only solution is to roll our own
[15:58] <lordcirth_work>  /root isn't normally it's own mount, though, so that's weird
[15:58] <catmando> i guess they're just not enough interest in the cloud images being prebuilt
[15:58] <lordcirth_work> I use LXC containers bootstrapped by SaltStack's lxc.init, by the way
[15:59] <catmando> otherwise a bug that big would not stay open for two years
[15:59] <lordcirth_work> Salt also supports VMware, I think?
[15:59] <lordcirth_work> Or everyone just tacked on a pty and kept going
[15:59] <catmando> i can certainly check
[16:00] <catmando> you may be right, but that's a workaround, not a fix.
[16:01] <lordcirth_work> A sufficiently easy and automated workaround is pretty close
[16:02] <lordcirth_work> But yeah, "failed to boot" being open for 2 years is silly
[16:04] <theCzar> QQ on unattended-upgrades.  Is there a way to configure at what time those updates are applied, so as to restict them to a certain time?
[16:07] <oerheks> theCzar, yes, https://askubuntu.com/questions/824718/ubuntu-16-04-unattended-upgrades-runs-at-random-times
[16:07] <oerheks> OnCalendar=<your time>
[16:10] <theCzar> oerheks: thanks! So it's just a matter of configuring the apt cron.  I'm on 14.04 still, so I'm guessing I'll just have to use Crontab instead of SystemD
[16:10] <mikkel> im have no ideas im program html and php
[16:10] <oerheks> theCzar, oh, 14.04 .. not sure if that works..
[16:11] <theCzar> oerheks: ah, hmm…
[16:11] <raptelan> How can I keep `apt-get install some_package` from starting the service associated with that package?
[16:13] <theCzar> raptelan: this works on Debian, I assume it does on Ubuntu https://major.io/2014/06/26/install-debian-packages-without-starting-daemons/
[16:14] <lotus-seagate> ioria: i solved it with usb autosuspend...
[16:14] <oerheks> sudo RUNLEVEL=1 apt-get install <service>
[16:14] <raptelan> theCzar: it does not.
[16:16] <raptelan> theCzar: there is no policy-rc.d on Ubuntu.
[16:16] <theCzar> ah
[16:16] <raptelan> I agree wholeheartedly with "I still have a very difficult time understanding why Debian-based distributions start daemons as soon as the package is installed. Having an option to enable this might be useful for some situations, but this shouldn’t be the default."
[16:18] <oerheks> raptelan, this is by design, for ubuntu that is
[16:18] <oerheks> that url says create policy-rc.d, and remove after install, AFAIK
[16:20] <raptelan> it's a crap design decision, sorry to say.  Inherited from Debian I know.
[16:21] <raptelan> oerheks: Ubuntu does not check for the policy-rc.d, only Debian does.
[16:22] <oerheks> raptelan, then i guess this should work, runlevel=1 prevents starting of the deamon: sudo RUNLEVEL=1 apt-get install <service>
[16:22] <raptelan> oerheks: hmm, that might work well, let me play with that :)
[16:26] <ecv> hi, I have some problem upgrading. It's stuck configuring grub-common (2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7.1). I tried apt-get install -f  and dpkg --configure -a but it always gets stuck on that package and can't finish installing other packages. It prints "update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults" I believe t
[16:26] <ecv> his "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-common.postinst configure 2.02~beta3-4ubuntu7" This is 17.10 64. Help please
[16:30] <nacc> ecv: the warning is just that a warning, not an error
[16:31] <ecv> nacc but I can't upgrade the next packages
[16:31] <ecv> wait im preparing an english full log, wait for the timeout
[16:35] <ecv> please see here https://pastebin.com/vbKNLD7w
[16:40] <nacc> ecv: ugh, you've mixed a bunch of releases?
[16:40] <nacc> ecv: i think this is a known bug (without a fix yet), let me find it
[16:40] <ecv> I upgraded from 16.10
[16:41] <nacc> ecv: LP: #1705345
[16:41] <ecv> do you need output of systemctl and journalctl ?
[16:41] <nacc> ecv: you can kill the plymouth tasks and i think it will continue
[16:41] <ecv> thank you nacc !!!
[16:41] <doug16k> lol, saw this in my syslog: NVIDIA: Using 24576.00 MB of virtual memory for indirect memory (I have 64GB)
[16:41] <nacc> ecv: yw, it's being hit relatively frequently, just subscribe to that bug
[16:46] <doug16k> grep -P '(warning|error|failed|unexpected|denied)' /var/log/syslog | wc -l   -> 468, lol
[16:47] <doug16k> grep -iP '(warning|error|failed|unexpected|denied)' /var/log/syslog | wc -l   -> 666, lol
[16:47] <doug16k> evil!
[16:50] <ecv> nacc: it looks like killall plymouth during the upgrade helped indeed. Thanks a bunch
[16:50] <ecv> ill reboot with cross fingers
[16:51] <nacc> ecv: yw
[16:52] <oerheks> !cookie | nacc
[17:09] <telboon> anyone knows for snaps, where is the directory what the app stores its config files? (eg /etc/xxx.conf)
[17:09] <telboon> i'm trying to find the equivalent of /etc/mongod.conf in the snap set up
[17:12] <oerheks> extended post about snap config files https://askubuntu.com/questions/762354/where-can-ubuntu-snaps-write-data
[17:13] <nacc> telboon: #snappy, for support, and it fully depends on the snap
[17:13] <nacc> telboon: there are common locations, but they are per-snap
[17:13] <oerheks>  /var/snap/<name>/common and /home/$USER/snap/<name>/common
[17:15] <Sean_McG> is there a way to boot and have systemd start it's services one by one so that I can find the source of whatever is causing my PC speaker to buzz?
[17:16] <telboon> thanks nacc & oerheks!
[17:16] <Sean_McG> or maybe a better question: can having a "tainted" kernel cause that?
[17:18] <oerheks> Sean_McG, this page may be a help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#systemd >>> "systemd.log_target=console"
[17:18] <oerheks> i find no interactive option
[17:18] <JivanPal> Hey, all
[17:19] <JivanPal> Any chance someone can help me with an OpenLDAP issue?
[17:19] <SwedeMike> JivanPal: the chance is zero if you don't actually ask the question you really want to ask.
[17:20] <JivanPal> Haha, fair.
[17:21] <JivanPal> Trying to set `olcTLSCipherSuite`, it seems it only understands some of the GNU-TLS names, not all. If one of these problematic names is present, trying to `ldapmodfiy` gives me `ldap_modify: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80)`.
[17:22] <JivanPal> e.g. "SECURE256:!NULL" is fine, but "ALL:!NULL" and "TLS_ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:!NULL" are not
[17:22] <Sean_McG> JivanPal: I wonder if that might be dependant on what version of GNUTLS it was compiled against, or the other possibility is that OpenLDAP might specifically block some ciphers
[17:23] <Kalinov> clear
[17:23] <Kalinov> someone know java
[17:24] <JivanPal> Kalinov: sure, what's the issue?
[17:24] <Kalinov> have problem with objects
[17:25] <Kalinov> someone
[17:26] <JivanPal> Kalinov: What, specifically?
[17:27] <rick13> hii
[17:29] <JivanPal> Sean_MCG: I see no reason for it to block ECDHE, so if anything, probably the former
[17:29] <nacc> JivanPal: probably better supported in a different channel anyways
[17:30] <nacc> Sean_McG: a tainted kernel on its own is not a reason for speaker buzzing, but a third party driver could, sure. or it couldl be anything ellse
[17:30] <nacc> Sean_McG: you don't really want systemd to go one-by-one, because you won't boot then :)
[17:30] <JivanPal> I've asked in #openldap with no response so far
[17:31] <JivanPal> Might turn to ServerFault later
[17:32] <JivanPal> Re. which build, it's taken straight from the repos; apt says "slapd is already the newest version (2.4.42+dfsg-2ubuntu3.2)".
[17:33] <Sean_McG> yeah I'm surprised I can't just user 'fuser' on the speaker device file in /dev
[17:34] <Sean_McG> which kind of suggests this is occurring on something in the kernel
[17:34] <Sean_McG> googling around isn't finding much useful
[17:34] <oerheks> speaker buzzing before login??
[17:35] <Sean_McG> always seems to end in someone cleaning a fan -- I know that isn't my issue as I can remove the PC speaker and it stops buzzing
[17:35] <Sean_McG> oerheks: yeah, it start midway through the boot sequence. It doesn't happen if I boot the 16.04.3 DVD though.
[17:36] <oerheks> i would blame the login-sound preparing
[17:36] <oerheks> or bad grounded power
[17:36] <Datamancer> Hi all, something weird is going on with our Ubuntu 16.04 servers. Unattended-upgrade does not seem to be completing. In the u-u log, we see that, several hours ago, "Starting unattended upgrades script", but we don't see a corresponding "No packages found..." or "All upgrades installed" message
[17:37] <Sean_McG> lm_sensors doesn't show anything wrong.
[17:41] <Tuxist> hi i have problem with ubuntu openvpn
[17:43] <Tuxist> i got this error :  tls-crypt unwrap error: packet too short
[17:43] <Tuxist> from my server
[17:44] <Tuxist> with android no problem
[17:44] <arooni> are snap packages better to use than debian packages?  talking about simplenote that has a .deb you can download and a snap package; snap looks like its easier to update
[17:45] <nacc> arooni: they are *different*
[17:45] <nacc> arooni: from an application perspective, snaps are easier
[17:49] <arooni> nacc: anyway to have snaps auto update?  if not, how do i manually update them and remember to do that
[17:52] <nacc> arooni: they already do auto update
[17:52] <arooni> snaps auto update?
[17:53] <nacc> arooni: yes
[17:54] <ducasse> arooni: there's a systemd service that autoupdates snaps for you, no need to do anything
[17:54] <arooni> thats reason enough to use them
[17:56] <oerheks> depends; in a prof environment, you would want to control snaps updates
[17:56] <arooni> true; i wont use them on my vps
[17:56] <arooni> but on my dev laptop that seems nice
[17:57] <arooni> i'm thinking of using them only for apps like simplenote; where i'd want all the updates anyway
[17:58] <WorkAllDay> BloqueNegro, are you around? My Hetzner just went down again, about to grab a KVM
[17:59] <WorkAllDay> To anybody else ... I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 Hetzner dedicated server and every few days, for some bizarre reason, the server loses all connection to the outside world. I know it doesn't shut down, because logs for stuff are still running and whatnot, it just becomes unpingable & my website goes down
[18:00] <WorkAllDay> I was in here last week and someone suggested I grab a KVM console to try to figure out what goes wrong in these timeframes, but I have no idea where to even look, so if anybody could help, I'd really appreciate it!
[18:00] <JivanPal> So apparently my issue is just GNUTLS being dumb an not recognising its own prioity strings :/
[18:13] <metastable> GNUTLS is bizarre on priority strings, but I'm fairly adept at writing them.
[18:13] <metastable> If you want a hand, let me know.
[18:19] <adamitsch> Why is every usb drive I plug in my computer read-only?
[18:20] <oerheks> adamitsch, if ti is ext3/4, you are not the owner, else there are bad blocks?
[18:21] <adamitsch> oerheks, it is fat32. And I have tried also external hard drive which works in Windows normally...
[18:24] <blkadder> adamitsch, fsck it.
[18:24] <oerheks> fat32/ntfs should be writable standard. perform a filecheck? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting#dosfstools_-_FAT12.2C_FAT16_and_FAT32_.28vfat.29_filesystem
[18:24] <akik> adamitsch: try to mount it manually so you can see possible error messages "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdXN /mount/point"
[18:27] <adamitsch> akik, no error mesages
[18:28] <akik> adamitsch: and it's still read-only?
[18:28] <adamitsch> yes...
[18:28] <akik> adamitsch: does "dmesg" show something?
[18:29] <adamitsch> akik : print_req_error: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 472  ...
[18:29] <akik> adamitsch: sr0 is usually a cd/dvd rom drive
[18:30] <adamitsch> akik... oh I see :  FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[18:30] <oerheks> :-)
[18:30] <akik> adamitsch: there you go. oerheks fasted the urls that you can follow
[18:31] <adamitsch> ok thank you all :)
[18:31] <iRoc> guys i have ubuntu vps how to go desktop mode and setup remote desktop also?
[18:31] <akik> iRoc: i'd suggest x2go
[18:32] <iRoc> akik what is this?
[18:32] <nacc> i wouldn't expect it to be very typical to run desktop on a vps
[18:32] <nacc> don't really see the point
[18:32] <Sean_McG> part of the noise my pc was making was that the system fan wasn't properly tightened to the back of the case, some quick work with the screwdriver fixed that
[18:32] <akik> iRoc: it's a remote desktop solution that is fast and secure
[18:33] <Sean_McG> but I'm still getting a pc speaker buzz
[18:33] <iRoc> akik ok fine then how to go desktop mode ubuntu? i have terminal only login with putty
[18:33] <Sean_McG> and it only occurs on this install -- neither the 16.04.3 install DVD nor my bootable USB keys are causing the buzz
[18:34] <akik> iRoc: you install x2goserver on the server and x2goclient on the client and then connect
[18:35] <iRoc> akik thanks for help
[18:35] <iRoc> letme check
[18:36] <akik> iRoc: ALTHOUGH it doesn't support a desktop environment that required 3d acceleration, so you'll need to use xfce, lxde, mate or similar on the server
[18:36] <ngf42> i'm confused. https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/xen-hypervisor-4.6-amd64 is this xen hypervisor v4.6 or v4.9?
[18:36] <nacc> iRoc: can i ask what you intend to do? as in, why do you want a xserver on your vps?
[18:37] <nacc> ngf42: that is for 18.04 which is covered in #ubuntu+1
[18:37] <ngf42> nacc: thanks.
[18:38] <renergy> hello
[18:38] <renergy> how to stop apache from autostarting?
[18:39] <nacc> renergy: in which version of ubuntu?
[18:39] <renergy> 16.04 - systemctl disable apache2 says
[18:39] <nacc> renergy: systemctl disable apache2
[18:39] <nacc> (sudo maybe necessary)
[18:39] <renergy> insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `apache2'
[18:39] <nacc> renergy: that's a warning, not an error.
[18:39] <nacc> (as it says)
[18:39] <renergy> nacc: that's what I tried
[18:40] <nacc> renergy: ... and?
[18:40] <renergy> and it starts over after reboot
[18:40] <nacc> renergy: ok, check `systemctl status apache`
[18:40] <nacc> after you've told it to be disabled
[18:42] <renergy> nacc: now it works, perhaps I did something wrong before.. don't know - anyhow, thank you
[18:42] <nacc> renergy: yw
[18:43] <aoam> hello, does anybody know unix syntax for lxd?
[18:43] <WorkAllDay> Is anyone super familiar with networking on Ubuntu? I know exactly when the network disconnected (because my IRC bouncer stopped receiving messages @ 11:29)
[18:44] <WorkAllDay> but the system didn't shut down or anything
[18:44] <WorkAllDay> so I'm trying to figure out what could've gone wrong
[18:45] <nacc> aoam: your question doesn't make a lot of sense
[18:45] <aoam> i just wanted someone to notice me
[18:45] <nacc> aoam: ... please try to stay ontopic
[18:46] <aoam> i’m trying to connect to lxd from nodejs
[18:46] <nacc> aoam: there is also a #lxcontainers channel for lxd support
[18:47] <aoam> okay, i’m gonna ask them
[18:47] <aoam> thanks
[18:47] <nacc> aoam: to be clear, you didn't actually ask a question
[18:47] <WorkAllDay> I see in the log:
[18:47] <WorkAllDay> avahi-daemon[939]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface enp4s0.IPv4 with address [my.ip.address]
[18:47] <WorkAllDay> Feb 13 11:29:00 Ubuntu-1404 avahi-daemon[939]: Interface enp4s0.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS.
[18:48] <WorkAllDay> (Ubuntu-1404 is the name of my server lol)
[18:49] <WorkAllDay> so at 11:29 something weird happens
[18:53] <WorkAllDay> Wait, it says enp4s0, but in my /etc/network/interfaces it's all like eth0
[18:53] <WorkAllDay> Any advice?
[18:57] <lordcirth_work> WorkAllDay, Ubuntu and others have changed to using 'deterministic naming' where interfaces are named like enp4s0.  Did you upgrade Ubuntu in place?
[18:57] <gordonjcp> is there a way to turn "deterministic naming" off?
[18:58] <gordonjcp> because I've never found it to be especially deterministic
[18:58] <WorkAllDay> Like a year and a half ago I think, but everything was working fine until about 6 months ago
[18:58] <WorkAllDay> Since then, my Hetz stops connecting to the outside world every few days
[18:58] <WorkAllDay> It always works after a reboot though
[18:58] <WorkAllDay> For a few days...
[18:58] <Jordan_U> gordonjcp: You've noticed an interface's name change?
[18:58] <WorkAllDay> The only relevant one I can find is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/1586528
[18:59] <lordcirth_work> gordonjcp, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"
[18:59] <gordonjcp> lordcirth_work: ah, handy
[18:59] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: yes, they're different on every boot
[18:59] <lordcirth_work> every boot?  Your BIOS is bugged
[18:59] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: this is not especially handy for firewall scripts
[18:59] <Jordan_U> gordonjcp: Wow. Please file a bug report.
[18:59] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: wouldn't know where to start with it
[18:59] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: it doesn't work on any machine I've tried it on
[19:00] <charlie_sando> I hate the deterministic names
[19:00] <pavlos> WorkAllDay: I had this issue before, I modified /etc/nsswitch.conf and added wins in the hosts: line, hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] wins dns
[19:00] <Jordan_U> gordonjcp: Do you remember examples of some of the different names that were given to the same NIC?
[19:00] <adamitsch> akik: I've done fsck.vfat , but didn't help. Now i have started dosfsck and I think it is stuck :/
[19:00] <WorkAllDay> pavlos, mind explaining what that means?
[19:01] <WorkAllDay> Also, did you disable ipv6 like a lot of the suggestions online are saying to do?
[19:01] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: they're all more-or-less variants of the same thing, at the moment on my desktop it says enp2s0
[19:01] <pavlos> WorkAllDay: I dont have a definite answer, something happens and it drops connection. Never figured out why ...
[19:01] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: if I reboot it'll be enp<something else>s<something else>
[19:02] <pavlos> WorkAllDay: I re-imaged a system a week ago, it works so far
[19:02] <WorkAllDay> ok so add:
[19:02] <WorkAllDay> hm, this site says something slightly different:
[19:02] <WorkAllDay> https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1496488.html
[19:03] <WorkAllDay> oh wait
[19:03] <WorkAllDay> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns wins
[19:03] <WorkAllDay> so that line?
[19:03] <pavlos> yes
[19:03] <pavlos> wins before dns, see the line I pasted
[19:04] <WorkAllDay> yeah this site is just saying something different
[19:04] <WorkAllDay> :P
[19:04] <akik> adamitsch: what does "didn't help" mean?
[19:05] <WorkAllDay> not usually a huge fan of blind copy-pasting but as long as I don't break everything I'm ok
[19:05] <baba_> Hello, all....Is it possible to get a quirks match even if the device in question does not have a vendor id/product id listed in any driver code?
[19:06] <WorkAllDay> pavlos, did you replace the existing hosts line with that?
[19:06] <WorkAllDay> or paste it at the way end?
[19:06] <pavlos> yes, my line is hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] wins dns
[19:07] <Chico_> Does anyone happen to be an expert on fb too?
[19:07] <linel> lol
[19:07] <pavlos> fb as in framebuffer?
[19:07] <Chico_> is it possible to be added in a groupchat without any ties in messenger? Facebook?
[19:08] <Chico_> pavlovs nope
[19:09] <Chico_> Anyone? Feel like doing something different?
[19:12] <Sean_McG> people still use WINS in 2018?!
[19:13] <sophisthunter> I made it to step 12 on the DigitalOcean Ubuntu 16.04 OpenVPN setup guide (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04) but my Android phone's logs are showing this: https://goo.gl/3hQ7tF any suggestions?
[19:13] <baba_> test
[19:14] <sophisthunter> pong baba_
[19:14] <Chico_> Any suggetsions for an EHR program in debian/Ubuntu?
[19:14] <baba_> lol, sorry...wrong tab
[19:14] <Chico_> Me?
[19:15] <Chico_> Or you? :P
[19:15] <sophisthunter> baba_ was referring to baba_
[19:16] <JivanPal> metastable: thanks :) I don't think it's the string itself, however
[19:17] <JivanPal> It's not even recognising "ALL", for example
[19:17] <Chico_> Anyone know a EHR or EMR?
[19:17] <JivanPal> e.g., `gnutls-cli --priority 'ALL' -p 389 --starttls-proto=ldap ldap.example.com`
[19:18] <ketzal> por  favor  me  orientan para  buscar  ayuda  en  español.   gracias
[19:18] <JivanPal> Ouputs "Syntax error at: ALL"
[19:18] <pavlos> sophisthunter: the openvpn should connect to port 1194 but your log shows 443
[19:19] <metastable> OpenVPN can operate on any port the administrator desires.
[19:19] <metastable> As long as the server and client configurations agree on which port and protocol (TCP vs UDP).
[19:19] <sophisthunter> Chico_, i wish i could help you but i think it's mostly over-priced proprietary stuff
[19:20] <linel> help me
[19:20] <sophisthunter> i've never seen linux in a hospital setting, unfortunately
[19:20] <linel> EXT-fs ERROR
[19:20] <linel> /dev/sad3/
[19:20] <sophisthunter> seriously though with health care costs i shudder to think how much they pay... does HIPAA have provisions for I.T. security?
[19:20] <linel> sda3*
[19:20] <Chico_> Yeah thats true. Usually it's gates' stuff
[19:20] <sophisthunter> <3 Bill
[19:20] <sophisthunter> and Melinda
[19:21] <Chico_> You love who? :O
[19:21] <Chico_> Aren't you on the wrog channel then? sophisthunter?
[19:21] <metastable> Their foundation does some amazing work. The people != the technology or the company.
[19:22] <sophisthunter> yea i guess I am on the wrong channel
[19:22] <Chico_> *Shoot myself through the head*
[19:22] <Chico_> lol he left
[19:23] <blackflow> Folks, there's #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic, please keep this chan clear for support.
[19:23] <Chico_> Sorry
[19:23] <metastable> Chico_: And keep the flamewars about OSes out of here, too.
[19:23] <Chico_> Sure I will
[19:23] <blackflow> linel: where do you see that? sounds like corrupt filesystem
[19:23] <baba_> Is my question regarding drivers and device quirks appropriate here?
[19:24] <pavlos> baba_: your device should be shown with either lspci or lsusb
[19:26] <baba_> Yes, it is visible...I blacklisted the uas driver for the device, and the kernel reported a quirks match...does that mean that the kernel contains info on my specific product/vendor id?
[19:31] <pikapika> Currently I have a dual boot system, but due to fear of overgrowing partition capacity I have been thinking of something. Is it practical/possible to have two different harddisks (each completely filled by only single OS) and putting in appropriate harddisk in the laptop before booting?
[19:32] <gordonjcp> pikapika: ye
[19:32] <gordonjcp> pikapika: yes, I used to do that all the time
[19:33] <pikapika> Thanks I'll research this further then
[19:50] <nshire> should I be concerned that there are invalid characters in my log files? gedit is showning red outlined zeroes in many of my log files at around the same time
[19:52] <gordonjcp> nshire: sounds strange, which log file?
[19:53] <nshire> fail2ban.log, syslog. nothing in kernel.log interestingly.
[19:53] <nshire> they are red-highlighed zeros like this /00/00/00/00/00/
[19:55] <nshireVM> https://i.imgur.com/sltTxiv.png
[19:56] <nshire> maybe file corruption? I think that was around the time I had to remove power from the system
[19:58] <gordonjcp> nshire: could be
[20:09] <pavlos> nshire: you could clean it up with,        tr -d '\000' < file-with-nulls > file-without-nulls
[20:13] <Sangus> well howdy
[20:14] <tfitts> Anyone here use Monit?  I'm trying to install and run it and I get a bunch of permissions issues saying I must be the owner of the files.  If I change ownership of the config and log file it says it started but in the log I still get an error that says [MST Feb 13 12:55:21] error    : Cannot open for write -- Permission denied
[20:14] <tfitts> doesn't say what file so  I don't really know what to do at this point
[20:16] <pavlos> tfitts: I assume you installed with ... sudo apt install monit
[20:16] <tfitts> yeah
[20:16] <Sangus> How do i reboot my proton collision chamber without damaging my lepton alignment chamber
[20:17] <metastable> Realign the dilithium matrix.
[20:18] <Sangus> hmmm good idea
[20:18] <Sangus> didn't think about that...
[20:18] <Sangus> hopefully my quantum harmonizer can handle it!
[20:19] <koko> hello
[20:20] <tfitts> their install pages says I should run apt-get update and upgrade so I guess I can give that a shot
[20:20] <tfitts> side question.  Would someone go to this link and see if you get an error that says your browser security must be upgraded
[20:20] <tfitts> http://walmartskip.com/PublicKB/articles/FAQ/What-if-my-invoice-is-not-in-Retail-Link/?l=en_US&fs=RelatedArticle
[20:21] <lordcirth_work> tfitts, on that link, yes, but I think that link is after the check
[20:21] <lordcirth_work> If I go to the home page, it's fine
[20:22] <tfitts> how about if you go http://walmartskip.force.com/PublicKB/articles/FAQ/What-is-the-status-of-my-invoice/?l=en_US&fs=Search&pn=1 and click the link at the bottom that says what if my invoice is not in retail link?
[20:22] <lordcirth_work> tfitts, oh, yeah I do get the page.  Odd since I'm running Firefox-next
[20:23] <tfitts> yeah, I'm getting it on latest version of chrome too.  Not really sure what to do.
[20:23] <lordcirth_work> Oddly, they are running mixed-content while disabling TLS 1.0.
[20:24] <tfitts> ok
[20:25] <p0a> Hello
[20:25] <p0a> I've installed lubuntu and my username is my admin as well
[20:25] <p0a> how can I change this so that the admin is root
[20:26] <nacc> p0a: your user has sudo you mean?
[20:26] <lordcirth_work> tfitts, perhaps they are poorly matching on UserAgent and your Linux UserAgent is breaking it?
[20:26] <tfitts> I've tried it on my iphone too
[20:26] <p0a> nacc: I think so.
[20:27] <tfitts> says to upgrade my os to a newer version than 11.2.5
[20:27] <tfitts> so I guess I need to talk to apple
[20:27] <metastable> iOS 11.2.5 is the latest.
[20:27] <nacc> p0a: that's fine, you don't need to change anything. It does not mean your user *is* root. It means your user can use sudo to do thing sas root
[20:27] <tfitts> haha, I know
[20:27] <nacc> !root | p0a
[20:28] <p0a> sounds like some weird abstraction
[20:28] <p0a> away from the UNIXY way of doing things but ok
[20:28] <ioria> p0a, there is no admin , there is no root ; the spoon does not exist
[20:28] <metastable> p0a: Define the UNIX-y way, and explain how this is a departure.
[20:29] <p0a> metastable: users, groups, etc. Idk.
[20:29] <p0a> permissions, chmod
[20:29] <lordcirth_work> p0a, how does sudo change any of those?
[20:30] <p0a> idk
[20:30] <metastable> Exactly.
[20:30] <p0a> this channel has changed
[20:30] <nacc> p0a: you've been tolld the answer to your question at this point. It's not an 'abstraction'
[20:30] <nacc> p0a: please stay ontopic
[20:31] <metastable> sudo access is nearly always granted by group membership.
[20:31] <p0a> so you're saying I need to remove my user from that group
[20:31] <p0a> and that'll do it
[20:31] <metastable> If you don't want your user to have sudo access, then yes.
[20:31] <nacc> p0a: if you do that, you will not be able to easily administer your system
[20:31] <nacc> p0a: (by default)
[20:31] <p0a> I'll login as root?
[20:31] <metastable> But if you do that and no other user HAS that access, you will lose the ability to make changes.
[20:32] <metastable> root by default can't be logged into by any means.
[20:32] <nacc> p0a: you can't login as root, by default.
[20:32] <amin>  currently I need to put my public key in remote server authorized_keys file to be allowed to ssh to the server. I want to disable this and just connect using the root account user-pass. how I can do this?
[20:32] <nacc> p0a: did you bother to read the faq?
[20:32] <p0a> I don't have a web browser
[20:32] <metastable> amin: It's recommended that you don't do that, and use either SSH key login for root, or log in to a normal user and escalate.
[20:32] <nacc> p0a: you don't need one to read the faq.
[20:33] <nacc> amin: you need to change settings to do that, if you insist on it (sshd settings)
[20:34] <p0a> It's okay I think I understand now what to do, thanks
[20:35] <amin> nacc, what settings?
[20:35] <metastable> I don't mean to be a jerk, but if you need help to change that setting... should you be changing it?
[20:35] <metastable> You're exposing yourself to potentially a lot of pain and suffering.
[20:36] <metastable> Denying root login via password is the default for a very good reason.
[20:38] <p0a> sounds like the stpidification of linux users
[20:38] <p0a> It's a brand new setup for loves sake, what could go wrong
[20:39] <metastable> p0a: Not sure what you're referencing, but none of that sounded helpful.
[20:39] <ioria> p0a, use your pc as a dos bot ?
[20:39] <p0a> a dos bot/
[20:39] <nacc> amin: as metastable said, the default is chosen for a reason
[20:39] <nokiomanz> Hi, I was using xubuntu 16.04 and just did a fresh install of xubuntu 17.10. For some reason that I try to understand all my color in a terminal are different. PLUS, if I ssh to 2 different machine color there are not the same. Where they used to be. Yes I am complaining about my color :( ahah
[20:56] <Euph0ria> Hello all.  I upgraded from 6.04 to 7.x and my sound has quit working.  I've tried booting from LiveUSB from latest versions of Ubuntu, and even Mint, and my audio is still broken from 6.04 and up.  Is there a way to downgrade to 6.04, to overhaul the audio system so it works somehow?
[20:57] <Richard_Cavell> Do you mean 16.04?
[20:57] <Euph0ria> Yes, I'm sorry, 16.04
[20:58] <Euph0ria> I've booted this machine with 16.04.3, which is the environment I'm using right now, and audio works just fine.  I have no idea why it's broken in 17.*
[21:02] <Euph0ria> I just hate the idea of having to re-install from 16.04.x and start all over again after so long.
[21:03] <Euph0ria> It reminds me of back when I was using windows, and something went wrong and I had to re-install everything.  I hate that ubuntu would be the same in that aspect.
[21:06] <Euph0ria> I'm still learning Linux after several years of using Ubuntu but I have no idea how to fix this or how to downgrade the audio (packages, dependencies, etc) to a version that works.  Anyone have any insight?
[21:07] <Euph0ria> brb, going to boot from the system instead of this LiveUSB.
[21:19] <sneakyimp> what does it mean when you have a ! char in /etc/shadow where the password should be?
[21:20] <metastable> sneakyimp: That means that the user cannot log in via a password. It's different than NO password, it's a "locked" password.
[21:21] <sneakyimp> metastable: thank you. What is the difference between ! and * ?
[21:21] <metastable> Same thing, really, but ! is commonly used by the passwd command to lock an account's password.
[21:21] <metastable> see 'man 5 shadow'.
[21:22] <sneakyimp> metastable: thank you
[21:23] <gordonjcp> metastable: yeah, isn't * meaning "never set" and ! meaning "was set now locked"?
[21:23] <bumblebee> hi. can you please tell me how to activate the flight mode in ubuntu 17.10 permanently?
[21:23] <metastable> In general, ANY string that is not a valid crypt string means "can't log in via password."
[21:24] <sneakyimp> the default user on my ubuntu machine appears to be the user "ubuntu" -- will it cause any problems if I delete this user? I'd like to enhance the security of my machine.
[21:25] <metastable> sneakyimp: I assume you've created another user and added it to the sudo group as a secondary group.
[21:25] <conyo> hi working with teststick to try get HDisk working this my bup cat can anyone tell me if there is size data there
[21:25] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/kklXM
[21:26] <metastable> conyo: I'm not entirely sure what you just said.
[21:26] <conyo> i should have 1 fat32 2ntfs
[21:26] <conyo> teststick is a partition manager
[21:26] <conyo> recovery
[21:27] <metastable> What issue are you trying to solve? And please don't use your enter key as punctuation.
[21:27] <conyo> i am trying to get my hard drive working
[21:28] <metastable> And what's wrong with it?
[21:28] <conyo> it has 3 partitions on it when working one fat32 and two ntfs
[21:28] <conyo> i cant access any of the partitions
[21:29] <conyo> they are not showing up
[21:29] <metastable> What are you attempting, what errors are you getting?
[21:29] <conyo> i am attempting to have all partitions show up from either a gui or terminal
[21:30] <conyo> none currently show
[21:30] <metastable> How are you attempting this? None currently show where?
[21:31] <nacc> conyo: and how is this an ubuntu issue?
[21:31] <conyo> by trying to mount the disk or to browse for them from file manager gui
[21:32] <metastable> I'm not accustomed to having to play a game of 20 questions to get relevant information out of people, and I'm not going to start now. The next time you ask for help, be prepared to share what commands you're entering, what errors you're receiving, and any other data relevant to your issue.
[21:33] <conyo> mate i told you i was in the middle of a partition scan from the beginning
[21:33] <conyo> trying to recover
[21:33] <nacc> conyo: 'partition scan'?
[21:34] <oerheks> conyo, use your testdisk, it should find partitions right away, or never .. else: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting#dosfstools_-_FAT12.2C_FAT16_and_FAT32_.28vfat.29_filesystem
[21:34] <nacc> conyo: are you using ubuntu right now?
[21:34] <metastable> conyo: That's nice. Read what I just said a little more closely, and heed my words. "Mate."
[21:34] <conyo> yes
[21:34] <conyo> 17.10
[21:34] <nacc> conyo: does fdisk or cfdisk see any partitions?
[21:34] <conyo> ntfs ntfs fat32
[21:35] <conyo> now i know ntfs is windows but it has always shown up in the past
[21:35] <nacc> conyo: what is that an answer to?
[21:35] <conyo> this is an external
[21:35] <conyo> follow me
[21:35] <nacc> conyo: we are trying to have a conversation. You are sort of just saying random things. Can you please answer the questions?
[21:35] <nacc> conyo: does fdisk or cfdisk see any partitions?
[21:36] <sneakyimp> metastable: yes, I have added two users to the sudo group. would it be ok to remove the ubuntu user? I am hoping to harden the machine against exploits and removing the default ubuntu user seems wise. i don't want to break anything, however.
[21:36] <metastable> sneakyimp: There actually isn't a default 'ubuntu' user normally. That sounds like a Digital Ocean setup.
[21:36] <nacc> metastable: or a cloud image
[21:36] <conyo> i dont know how to use either and the disk is 98 percent of the way through a scan so i dont think i would be able to access it
[21:37] <sneakyimp> metastable: rackspace, actually ;)]
[21:37] <metastable> sneakyimp: But yes, as long as you have at least one other user with sudo access, you can delete that user. I can't promise that Rackspace's cloud automation won't recreate it.
[21:37] <conyo> will try now
[21:37] <metastable> That was my second guess. :P
[21:45] <bumblebee> hi. can you please tell me how to activate the flight mode in ubuntu 17.10 permanently?
[21:46] <Boyette> permanently
[21:46] <Boyette> just disable your networkadapters and bluetooth
[21:46] <Boyette> then you have flight mode
[21:46] <bumblebee> how?
[21:47] <crond> rmmod $modulename
[21:47] <ecormier> lspci -k and then rmmod the relevant modules
[21:47] <crond> if you need it to persist across reboot, you can blacklist them
[21:48] <crond> by adding the module name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:48] <bumblebee> yes, it has to persist across reboot
[21:49] <nacc> to be clear that isn't necessarily the same as 'flight mode'
[21:49] <nacc> by which i think they mean airplane mode
[21:49] <nacc> which is often done at the hardware level
[21:49] <crond> yeah then lspci -k and get the module names, then add them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist , then reboot.  That hardware then won't work.
[21:49] <nacc> (BIOS)
[21:49] <nacc> Boyette: why, if I might ask?
[21:50] <crond> I mean, you COULD just remove the minipci card for wifi/bluetooth if your laptop has one
[21:50] <nacc> airplane mode is closer (aiui) to what rfkill does
[21:50] <crond> well if he wants 'permanent airplane mode' I'm assuming he just wants the hardware disabled entirely for some reason
[21:50] <crond> but yeah
[21:51] <bumblebee> i just want every wireless function to be deactivated permanently. that's all i want.
[21:51] <crond> bumblebee, either blacklist the modules, see if you can just disable them in bios, or remove the minipci card entirely if your system has one.
[21:51] <nacc> bumblebee: so no, you won't say why? that's all you needed to say.
[21:51] <crond> i.e. if it's not built in to the motherboard on an ultrabook
[21:51] <nacc> bumblebee: what crond said would work; or rfkill; or disable it in the BIOS.
[21:51] <bumblebee> i don't think, there is a minipci card. at least i don't know anything about it
[21:52] <[n0mad]> is settings > network > airplane mode not sufficient?
[21:52] <ecormier> doesn't survive reboot
[21:52] <bumblebee> i can't disable it in the bios, there is no such option
[21:52] <crond> easiest is BIOS disable if it exists, or blacklist module.
[21:52] <jerichowasahoax> build a kernel without wireless support?
[21:52] <[n0mad]> interesting, thanks ecormier
[21:52] <jerichowasahoax> wait, i'm in #ubuntu, that's not solid advice, nvm
[21:52] <crond> jerichowasahoax, well, just blacklisting it is easier, but that is an option. lol
[21:53] <jerichowasahoax> crond: i thought i was in #gentoo lol
[21:53] <Euph0ria> jerichowasahoax: Ha!
[21:53] <crond> bumblebee, what model laptop is it, assuming it is a laptop?
[21:53] <ecormier> jerichowasahoax: if it was gentoo, that question wouldn't have been asked :)
[21:53] <bumblebee> acer aspire 7750g
[21:54] <ecormier> the question would be, my wireless card doesn't work... how can I get it working
[21:54] <conyo> here are the partitions testdisk can see from a scan can someone tell me which line is the size line so i can divide it by 1024 and restore the correct partitions (basedon size i know whats what )with test disk
[21:54] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/6mrC7
[21:54] <jerichowasahoax> ecormier: it's totally plausible, but we're veering off topic now :V
[21:54] <Euph0ria> Is it a stolen laptop and you don't want it accidentally connecting to the internet via wireless?  :D
[21:54] <TaZeR> laptops are the most amazing devices on the planet, nothing is more beautiful, more elegant, makes me obsess more about it then a sexy ass laptop touching my crotch
[21:54] <ecormier> agreed
[21:54] <crond> bumblebee, that DOES have a minipci card.  you could just remove it if you NEVER want wifi/bluetooth
[21:54] <nacc> TaZeR: please stay on topic
[21:55] <bumblebee> no, i just don't like to be surrounded by the radiation
[21:55] <crond> bumblebee, https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/Acer_AS7750G_91.jpg <-- you can see the card next to the ram slots, the black and white wires are the antenna going to it.
[21:55] <jerichowasahoax> bumblebee: that's not actually a thing
[21:55] <bumblebee> i have never opened the notebook, crond
[21:55] <Euph0ria> Oh, wow.  wifi radiation.  You're out of luck with that, you're surrounded by it regardless.
[21:55] <crond> bumblebee, well, you now have all the info, you can decide what to do :)
[21:56] <bumblebee> it's also a psychological thing. i don't want to get deeper into this now.
[21:56] <jerichowasahoax> bumblebee: take it from a guy who voted green party last election, wireless radiation isn't actually a thing that effects humans in any capacity
[21:56] <gordonjcp> nope
[21:57] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: one of my friends mounted up the outdoor wifi routers for the free wifi coverage for the London Olympics
[21:57] <bumblebee> jerichowasahoax: okay, thanks.
[21:57] <crond> bumblebee, given your situation, open the laptop and unplug the antenna wires and remove the card entirely,.  I won't judge your reasons, but given what they are that's your best option
[21:57] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: almost immediately people on the street where he'd fitted them to the lamp posts started complaining of headaches, nausea and other illness
[21:58] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/6mrC7
[21:58] <bumblebee> crond: 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) 	Subsystem: Lite-On Communications Inc AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) 	Kernel driver in use: ath9k 	Kernel modules: ath9k
[21:58] <bumblebee> crond: is this the right module?
[21:58] <conyo> help where is the size line at
[21:58] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: kind of a shame, really, that he'd fitted empty cases fresh from the paint shop so they could do promo photographs
[21:58] <conyo> what figure represents it
[21:58] <crond> bumblebee, yes.
[21:58] <crond> ath9k is the module
[21:59] <bumblebee> ok, how do i open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[21:59] <jerichowasahoax> bumblebee: with a text editor
[21:59] <bumblebee> do i have to use sudo?
[21:59] <jerichowasahoax> yes
[21:59] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/6mrC7
[21:59] <bumblebee> can you please tell me the whole command?
[21:59] <conyo> help please
[21:59] <crond> bumblebee, yes
[22:00] <bumblebee> thank you
[22:00] <crond> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:00] <ecormier> conyo: what are you trying to do?
[22:00] <jerichowasahoax> bumblebee: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:00] <crond> or gedit, I guess yes.  whatever text editor.
[22:00] <bumblebee> it says: No protocol specified Unable to init server: Verbindung ist gescheitert: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt  (gedit:19804): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[22:01] <jerichowasahoax> ok so use nano then
[22:01] <jerichowasahoax> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:01] <bumblebee> yes, nano works!
[22:01] <bumblebee> now the file is opened
[22:01] <crond> ctrl+o to save after you edit it
[22:01] <bumblebee> do i just put "ath9k" in it?
[22:01] <crond> then ctrl+x to exit.
[22:02] <crond> mhmm
[22:02] <ecormier> ummm
[22:02] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:02] <conyo> im trying to use my drive it isnt showing up in linux since i plugged it directly into the case is used to be a external. i am in the middle of a test disk scan the img show partions i have found i want to restore some partitions on the partition table so i can use and browse the drive
[22:02] <ecormier> shouldn't it be: blacklist ath9k
[22:03] <bumblebee> gordonjcp: disable wireless network permanently
[22:03] <conyo> https://imgur.com/a/6mrC7
[22:03] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: short of removing the wireless chip, there's not really a way to do that on modern machines
[22:04] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: if you've got an "airplane mode" switch, that'll stop it transmitting but not receiving
[22:04] <ecormier> gordonjcp: the blacklist will work just fine
[22:04] <bumblebee> there i no hardware switch, no
[22:04] <gordonjcp> ecormier: no, that'll just stop you being able to talk to the card
[22:04] <bumblebee> is
[22:04] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: that's the point
[22:05] <gordonjcp> I thought the point was to disable it?
[22:05] <bumblebee> i neither want it to transmitting nor to receiving
[22:05] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: the point was to permanently disable it. airplane mode doesn't persist across reboots - kernel blacklisting does
[22:05] <crond> gordonjcp, I told him to remove it, and sent a pic of where it is on his laptop, he doesn't want to open it or something
[22:05] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: but that won't stop it TXing
[22:05] <crond> so blacklist is the next best option
[22:06] <Euph0ria> gordonjcp: Eliminating ubuntu from accessing the wifi/bt is the best option here...
[22:06] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: what is it going to transmit with no driver
[22:06] <bumblebee> crond: i maybe will do that, but not now, it's too late
[22:06] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: depending on what crazy-ass firmware is in place on the card
[22:06] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: can you provide examples
[22:07] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: the ath9ks in the "thin client" machines we have at work sit and beacon away like crazy without their driver
[22:07] <jerichowasahoax> bumblebee: "too late"? like, late in the evening?
[22:08] <bumblebee> okay, so better i remove it completely?
[22:08] <gordonjcp> ghods alone know what they're trying to do, but they're very chatty
[22:08] <bumblebee> jerichowasahoax: yes
[22:08] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: why bother, just leave it alone
[22:08] <bumblebee> sorry, my english
[22:08] <crond> bumblebee, if you dont want it doing ANYTHING yes.
[22:08] <jerichowasahoax> oh, well, fair enough :V
[22:08] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: you've got me thinking, though, *why* do they do that?
[22:08] <crond> bumblebee, it takes like 3 minutes. Remove a few screws, open bottom, remove card, close laptop.
[22:08] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: and what else do they do, that I might want to know about
[22:09] <ecormier> gordonjcp: we're here to help people do what they want to do... why sometimes is a tricky question :{)
[22:09] <bumblebee> crond: okay, i'll do it tomorrow if there's no other way.
[22:09] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: just leave the wifi card alone
[22:09] <nacc> conyo: please don't pm, ask in the channe
[22:09] <jerichowasahoax> crond: i think bumblebee just wants to get some sleep first
[22:09] <crond> bumblebee, yep that works
[22:09] <bumblebee> gordonjcp: why?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: well, why remove it?
[22:10] <bumblebee> but i told you why
[22:10] <bumblebee> already
[22:10] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: if you're worried about RF, bear in mind that your wifi card is probably the smallest source of RF you're ever exposed to in any given day
[22:11] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: if you go outside you're exposed to several orders of magnitude more non-ionising radiation that has been shown to have severe health effects
[22:11] <bumblebee> how do you know that? you don't even know how and where i'm living
[22:11] <Euph0ria> gordonjcp: That's probably true, but he's neurotic about it.
[22:11] <Faisal12> ls
[22:11] <Faisal12> Hi
[22:11] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: I'm guessing you have a certain amount of daylight?
[22:11] <nacc> let's stay ontopic. they asked how to do something, and they were told how, afaict
[22:11] <bumblebee> yes
[22:11] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: didn't listen to me the first time, doubt they'll listen to you the second time
[22:11] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: then you're being exposed to cancer-causing non-ionising radiation
[22:12] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: fairy nerf
[22:12] <jerichowasahoax> gordonjcp: i'm interpreting that as an insult and putting you on /ignore
been waiting on a reply for more than 5minutes no one has chimed in
[22:12] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: okay then
[22:12] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: say it out loud
[22:12] <bumblebee> you are scaring me
[22:12] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: it's a way of saying "fair enough"
[22:13] <bumblebee> what has sunlight to do with wlan radiation?
[22:13] <nacc> bumblebee: jerichowasahoax: gordonjcp: please stay on topic :)
[22:13] <jerichowasahoax> nacc: "fairy nerf" :V first cup of coffee
[22:13] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: RF cannot give you cancer.  Sunlight can, and does.
[22:13] <nacc> jerichowasahoax: np :)
[22:13] <gordonjcp> jerichowasahoax: :-p
[22:13] <conyo> how do i run a command fdisk or cfdisk to see if my drive has partitions on it
[22:13] <bumblebee> i don't believe you
[22:14] <gordonjcp> conyo: "fdisk -l"
[22:14] <gordonjcp> conyo: or more usefully "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:14] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: okay ten
[22:14] <gordonjcp> *then
[22:14] <Euph0ria> bumblebee: The sun exposes you to ALL types of radiation of varying degrees and is the most radioactive exposure you'll ever get.  Things like neutrinos that pass right through solid objects, the entire earth really, for example.
[22:14] <conyo> thank you very much
[22:14] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: but you wear sunscren, right?
[22:14] <ecormier> conyo: lsblk -f might be better
[22:14] <gordonjcp> ecormier: ooh, even better
[22:14] <conyo> thank you v much
[22:15] <bumblebee> you are making me nervous and i do not like it. :(
[22:15] <ecormier> using a partition editor is overkill for ls
[22:15] <bumblebee> i don't want to talk about this any longer
[22:15] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: FWIW at work we don't bother about microwave links with less than about 25W output, if we're going to be closer than a couple of metres
[22:15] <bumblebee> a had a simple technical question, why do you have to know why?
[22:16] <gordonjcp> bumblebee: the power output of your wifi card isn't going to do *anything* to you
[22:16] <bumblebee> i will go now
[22:16] <bumblebee> thanks and bye
[22:16] <gordonjcp> especially since it's into an omnidirectional antenna
[22:16] <charlie_sando> aww that looked fun
[22:16] <charlie_sando> sad he left
[22:17] <gordonjcp> oh well
[22:18] <gordonjcp> I mean it's not like RF safety is a significant part of my actual real-life day job, or anything
[22:18] <crond> no point trying to convince people of stuff, just help them do their thing.
[22:18] <ecormier> ^^
[22:18]  * gordonjcp has discovered that one station has scaffolding all up one of their towers, guys climbing all over it, right in front of the microwave link
[22:18] <nacc> said differently, please stay on topic. Focus on ubuntu support issues, please.
[22:18] <gordonjcp> the link's been disconnected, but they don't know that and didn't ask
[22:19] <nacc> gordonjcp: please stop.
[22:24] <nchambers> hey guys, I'm using weechat in a screen session (screened via `screen -U`), on ubuntu 17.10. most time my client encounters a non-ascii character it breaks: https://imgur.com/a/ucjtr. I don't know if the problem is with weechat, ncurses, w/e, but I can't find any solution that will work. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:25] <gordonjcp> nchambers: unicode issue?
[22:25] <kenrin> What is your terminal set up for?
[22:25] <nchambers> gordonjcp: no idea
[22:25] <nchambers> kenrin: what do you mean?
[22:25] <nchambers> locale wise?
[22:29] <kenrin> Yeah,  like en_US.UTF-8 I'm using with xterm so I can display other languages
[22:30] <nchambers> kenrin: https://clbin.com/VcIvc
[22:34] <kenrin> Hmm that is strange,  I used to have issues like that on xterm-color I think
[22:35] <nchambers> my $TERM is currently xterm-256color. do you have a better suggestion?
[22:35] <kenrin> try just xterm
[22:36] <kenrin> If it fixes make it permanent,  if not.  #weechat probably knows how to fix
[22:37] <nchambers> hey I think that might have done it
[22:37] <nchambers> nope never mind
[22:37] <ooosssososos_> Hi, I was wondering if anyone was familiar with cross compiling from 64bit 16.04 to 32bit
[22:37] <nchambers> spoke too soon
[22:37] <nchambers> any other ideas?
[22:37] <ooosssososos_> I seem to need binutil for i686 but installing that overwrites my x86_64 install
[22:39] <SuperJonotron> looking for a way to specify a version of openjdk 8 in ubuntu.  Can't seem to find syntax other than apt-get accessing the latest version and versions past a certain build are not compatible with my application
[22:39] <kenrin> Is your screen term screen-256color ? nchambers
[22:39] <nchambers> hmm good question
[22:40] <kenrin> I checked and I had added a .screenrc file to fix that
[22:41] <nchambers> I don't think I have that defined
[22:41] <jerichowasahoax> nchambers: echo $TERM
[22:41] <nchambers> jerichowasahoax: we already covered that
[22:41] <nchambers> kenrin: what does it look like to define an environment variable in .screenr
[22:41] <akik> nchambers: i have best compatibility when i set the local TERM=xterm
[22:41] <nchambers> c
[22:41] <jerichowasahoax> nchambers: just got back from brewing coffee, hadn't scrolled up, mb
[22:42] <nchambers> jerichowasahoax: ah np
[22:42] <kenrin> https://weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_faq.en.html#use_256_colors
[22:42] <nchambers> akik: thats what I have it at right now. no dice :/
[22:42] <akik> nchambers: although i have irssi with no line chars
[22:42] <nchambers> kenrin: didn't work
[22:43] <kenrin> You use the /set and the upgrade ?
[22:43] <akik> nchambers: but for example iptraf-ng and mc work with no problems
[22:43] <nchambers> yeah
[22:45] <jerichowasahoax> nchambers: are you allergic to changing terminal multiplexers? tmux might behave better
[22:45] <nchambers> hrm
[22:45] <kenrin> Well if you are sure you got ncurses-term installed then no idea
[22:45] <nchambers> I guess I could give it a atry
[22:45] <pleasehelp> ive got an external hard drive that ive take out of case and put inside atx box and connected how can i access the disk i cant see it in linux now but the drive is there as it shows up in gparted what can i do to make this formally external hd now internall hd useable *i want to access the partitions on it not format it
[22:45] <ecormier> tmux is great
[22:45] <akik> nchambers: oh yea i start screen with "screen -T screen -U"
[22:46] <kenrin> tmux gives you that bar at the bottom I don't want to see when using the wee
[22:46] <asdfgh> Yo humans!!
[22:46] <ecormier> kenrin: it's all in the config file
[22:47] <ecormier> easy to modify
[22:47] <kenrin> True but i'm lazy
[22:47] <ecormier> :) touche
[22:47] <kenrin> I kind of want that bar when doing other things =)
[22:48] <ecormier> I have a minimal one... I like it
[22:48] <nchambers> tmux appears to work better
[22:49] <pleasehelp> ive got an external hard drive that ive take out of case and put inside atx box and connected how can i access the disk i cant see it in linux now but the drive is there as it shows up in gparted what can i do to make this formally external hd now internal hd usable *i want to access the partitions on it not format it
[22:49] <nacc> pleasehelp: if you cant see it in linux, how do you see it in gparted?
[22:50] <pleasehelp> i cant browse to it from a gui or terminal
[22:50] <gartral> pleasehelp: do you mena you can't see it in the file manager, but you can see it in gparted?
[22:50] <pleasehelp> but when i open gparted it is there minus the partitions
[22:51] <gartral> pleasehelp: are there known good partitions n the hdd?
[22:51] <pleasehelp> yes file manager cant see it
[22:51] <pleasehelp> i dont know
[22:52] <pleasehelp> i need help with that part pls
[22:52] <ecormier> pleasehelp: what does this return: lsblk -f
[22:52] <gartral> pleasehelp: or rather, were you expecting partitions to show up that showed up when the drive was in it's enclosure, that aren't now that it's inside your computer?
[22:52] <ecormier> gartral: opposite of that
[22:53] <gartral> whoops, ok
[22:53] <ecormier> gartral: nope, I read wrong
[22:53] <ecormier> apologies
[22:53] <gartral> right, thought so.. :P
[22:53] <pleasehelp> pleasehelp: or rather, were you expecting partitions to show up that showed up when the drive was in it's enclosure, that aren't now that it's inside your computer?
[22:53] <pleasehelp> yes
[22:54] <gartral> pleasehelp: open a terminal type lsblk -f and hit enter
[22:54] <pleasehelp> https://imgur.com/a/TDXUk
[22:54] <pleasehelp> the partitons are not there
[22:54] <ecormier> if it's not there in the output... I'm stumped... some weird raid in hardware?
[22:54] <pleasehelp> not the ones i need
[22:55] <ecormier> (on the external enclosure.... wouldn't make sense on a single drive thoughH)
[22:55] <gartral> pleasehelp: was there only ONE drive in the enclosure?
[22:55] <pleasehelp> yes one drive only
[22:55] <gartral> ok, so not raid...
[22:56] <ecormier> encrypted?
[22:56] <pleasehelp> just gonna read any post i might of missed brb
[22:57] <ecormier> sata?
[22:57] <JonelethIrenicus> any command to figure out if two repo sources conflict with each other?
[22:57] <gartral> pleasehelp: are you 100% sure, for a fact, that the power and data cables are connected *tightly* to your disk and motherboard?
[22:58] <ecormier> yep... I would even suggest double checking, by disconnecting, which device it is in lsblk
[22:58] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: how do you mean 'conflict'?
[22:59] <ecormier> gartral: that's why I asked the sata question... sata is much more reliable than the old seperate drive power cables
[22:59] <gartral> JonelethIrenicus: in the case of two repos having the same packages, the one with the NEWEST version of a given package is used when updating
[22:59] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: well i am trying to install a package and it wont install i was thinking maybe it is a conflict between repos
[22:59] <pleasehelp> yes sata and i am going to switch off and unplug reconnect all connections now
[23:00] <ecormier> pleasehelp:
[23:00] <JonelethIrenicus> gartral: ahh
[23:00] <ecormier> NO
[23:00] <ecormier> sorry
[23:00] <ecormier> hit caps by accident
[23:00] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[23:00] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: trying to install ros-core
[23:00] <ecormier> pleasehelp: disconnect the drive, run lsblk, re-connect it, run lsblk again
[23:00] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: will show you what the local policy (which by default is what gartral said) would do
[23:01] <ecormier> don't switich the computer off...
[23:01] <gartral> pleasehelp: sounds like a plan! and when you're reconnecting the drive, make sure to roll your thumb over the connectors a bit to make sure they're seated correctly
[23:01] <ecormier> I think that safe right guys
[23:01] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: any way to show what the issue is when trying to install a meta package?
[23:02] <ecormier> I've done it, but I want to be careful with advising others
[23:02] <gartral> ecormier: I wouldn't count on it, not all sata controllers have reliable hotswap
[23:02] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: policy should still work with meta
[23:02] <ecormier> mmmm true
[23:02] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: *if* the issue is conflicting versions
[23:02] <ecormier> but then it shouldn't be mounted
[23:02] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: alternatively, if apt is refusing to work, show the exact command and output
[23:02] <ecormier> so the drive should be safe
[23:03] <gartral> pleasehelp: we'll be here when you return, I have a few more ideas if this doesn't work
[23:04] <gartral> ecormier: I'll have him do a sudo fdisk -l when he comes back, that should show if the device is even being seen by the system
[23:04] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N8RGtWKVKK/
[23:04] <ecormier> yeah, is fdisk in ubuntu able to work with gpt?
[23:04] <gartral> ecormier: not for partition managment, but it will show the /dev/sdX
[23:05] <ecormier> right
[23:05] <akik> ecormier: no, but gdisk can
[23:05] <ecormier> newer fdisk versions have gpt... wasn't sure if ubuntu was there yet or not... it's coming
[23:05] <gartral> ecormier: also, this being an external drive, I HIGHLY doubt it was formatted for GPT
[23:05] <ecormier> akik: gdisk is what I always use
[23:06] <ecormier> gartral: I've done it... but then I do everything the hardway
[23:06] <ecormier> :)
[23:06] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: and the plicy output for ros-core?
[23:07] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: if it's clean, then the normal way to debug is to try to 'solve' the conflict/dependencies for apt. In this case, e.g., `sudo apt install ros-core python-rosbag python-roslaunch python-rostopic python-roswtf`
[23:07] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: (i.e., telling apt we actually do want to install those packages)
[23:08] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: typically, apt will then respond with *why* it wouldn't do that on its own, or more packages that it was unable to install due to unmet dependencies.
[23:08] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: if the latter, add them to the list and keep trying.
[23:08] <pleasehelp> guys before i do can you help me re test disk i have a backup of partition table i want to write  before the reconnection see
[23:08] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vPNs7S8tST/
[23:08] <pleasehelp> its in my home dir
[23:08] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: ok, that looks fine, so just go through the steps i outlined
[23:08] <pleasehelp> how do i do it
[23:09] <pleasehelp> ok its just that i made some changes
[23:09] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: maybe you ahve some PPA that has the same package as the archive in one of the dependencies, and apt won't uninstall that to install ros-core
[23:09] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: does that make sense?
[23:09] <ecormier> pleasehelp: changes? that don't sound safe
[23:09] <pleasehelp> i cant follow conv on this client ill be back
[23:10] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: yeah check this out i think i found the conflict
[23:10] <JonelethIrenicus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dfY5Jrf9pb/
[23:12] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: yep, the ros archive appears to be the issue
[23:13] <libben> how stable is latest ubuntu server?
[23:13] <libben> thinking of trying 17.10.1 for a local server running kodi on it, and then add a vm on it for opensense
[23:14] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: is this a local deb? 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[23:14] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: yeah, one not in the archives currently installed anymore
[23:14] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: oh
[23:15] <JonelethIrenicus> so not installed
[23:15] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: installed, but not present in the archive anymore
[23:15] <nacc> e.g., let's sayou install from trusty
[23:15] <nacc> then upgrade to xenial
[23:15] <nacc> and a package was removed from xenial
[23:15] <nacc> apt doesn't see that package any more, but dpkg does
[23:16] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: oh dang i should remove that right
[23:16] <mrproper> I’m trying to install eve-ng which is based on Ubuntu in a KVM environment. When I’m going through the install, I’m getting an error saying it cannot find the root device. Has anyone seen this before and how do I fix it?
[23:16] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: probably? i really don't know
[23:16] <nacc> mrproper: eve-ng based on ubuntu != ubuntu
[23:16] <nacc> mrproper: you should ask the eve-ng folks
[23:19] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: thanks a lot you are the best
[23:20] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: np :)
[23:21] <gordonjcp> I must have someone /ignored
[23:21] <gordonjcp> oh
[23:21] <gordonjcp> yeah, let's just unignore *.qwest.net
[23:21] <gordonjcp> nacc: hello ;-)
[23:22] <nacc> gordonjcp: heh
[23:22] <libben> is server 17.10.1 stable enough for virtualization and kodi?
[23:22] <gordonjcp> libben: yes
[23:22] <gordonjcp> libben: but it's not LTS, so it'll go out of date soon
[23:23] <libben> yeah, but what can break =)
[23:23] <gordonjcp> very little
[23:23] <libben> I only going to run simple webserver, a vm, and kodi on host
[23:23] <gordonjcp> do you mean stable as in "doesn't crash", or stable as in "doesn't change"
[23:23] <gordonjcp> because pretty much any Linux regardless of distro will be stable-as-in-doesn't-crash
[23:23] <nacc> libben: i don't know why you'd use 17.10.1 specifically for that
[23:24] <nacc> libben: (or at least it's not obvious to me)
[23:24] <gordonjcp> I mean if you're installing kodi chances are you're getting the latest and greatest from the Kodi PPAs
[23:24] <gordonjcp> right?
[23:24] <libben> probably
[23:26] <gordonjcp> 17.10 will be EOL in May
[23:26] <gordonjcp> standard releases have a nine-month lifecycle
[23:26] <gordonjcp> LTSes are supported for five years
[23:27] <gordonjcp> libben: so, it's up to you, you could do 17.10 now and install 18.04 in April and then sit on that for five years
[23:27]  * gordonjcp discovered a 10.04 server running away quite the thing recently
[23:27] <libben> =)
[23:28] <gordonjcp> there are plans afoot to move its stuff onto a newer machine, and decommission the old P3 it's running on
[23:28] <gordonjcp> then we'll probably have to turn on the radiators in that room
[23:28] <libben> well, I just want to see whats new. I usually just try new releases everyt time I see em. But now Im gonna replace my old router with a mini pc. And let it act as htpc, www, router. Dont mind running latest
[23:29] <gartral> gordonjcp: 10.04?! what was it running?!
[23:29] <gordonjcp> libben: cool, go for it, even give 18.04 alpha 2 a blast
[23:30] <gordonjcp> gartral: some webby database stuff written in Django that I vaguely recall writing several jobs ago
[23:30] <gartral> libben: I'll warn ya, using a regular old desktop as a router has many disadantages?
[23:30] <libben> opensense in a vm
[23:30] <libben> is the main idea
[23:30] <gordonjcp> gartral: must have done it right, back then
[23:31] <libben> the pc is a i5 5250u with 4 intel 1gb nics
[23:31] <libben> one of those small mini pcs from china
[23:31] <gartral> libben: right, but power consumption, processing lag (ESPECIALLY if you're using a VM to route), and general "oh crap" factor when something breaks
[23:31] <libben> you gotta live a little =)
[23:31] <libben> oh crap is the fun part =)
[23:32] <gartral> libben: also, with the spectre/meltdown patches coming down, anything that does a lot of network proseccing for figuring out firewall/routing is going to be painfully slow
[23:34] <ecormier> gartral: and a lot of advantages too
[23:37] <gartral> ecormier: true, but I find that my energy bill thanks me when I use a properly flashed/configured router :P
[23:37] <ecormier> gartral: I've got a buddy doing it right now with a custom low-power arm board
[23:37] <ecormier> you could do it with a raspberry pi
[23:38] <ecormier> gartral: router is all fine doing what it does, until you want it to do something and it can't
[23:38] <gartral> ecormier: I mean, I have an actual server running as my primary firewall
[23:39] <ecormier> that works too
[23:39] <gartral> or rather, a vm on my server as my firewall
[23:39] <ecormier> and that sits between the router and the internet
[23:39] <ecormier> ?
[23:40] <gartral> ecormier: logically, yes, wire-wise no
[23:40] <libben> gartral: that is true, but I dont have that high demand and it will surely be better then my current router.
[23:40] <ecormier> .... that's a problem
[23:41] <ecormier> if the router is wired to the wan, it is susceptible to attack
[23:42] <gartral> ecormier: my actual router passes all traffic over a vlan to a specific port on my server, that port is connected to one VM, then the traffic gets passed back to the router out another port over a different VLAN and the router handles it's actual job of routing from there.
[23:42] <ecormier> that's a little too far down the paranoia hole for me, so I'll leave it there... my router is connected
[23:42] <ecormier> ahhh gotcha.... safer ... but still...
[23:43] <gartral> ecormier: I had to do it this was because of the 3000+ firewall rules I have set up and the router having a dinky little 4mb of flash for userspace
[23:44] <ecormier> yup, makes good sense
[23:44] <helpplease> hi im back are you still here i have an issue
[23:44] <gartral> helpplease: we're still here, as promised
[23:46] <helpplease> ok my problem is that i have written some changes to partition table with test disk (have a backup)
[23:46] <helpplease> i have drive inside the external case this time though
[23:47] <gartral> helpplease: well you took a backup, so that's good, was it a block backup or a file backup?
[23:47] <helpplease> i wanted to test it like that to see if putting bak inside case would make a diff showing up
[23:47] <gartral> helpplease: lemme guess, it didn't, did it?
[23:47] <helpplease> it is showing up but i have made changes to table how can i restore to orig state with the backup
[23:48] <gartral> helpplease: how did you take the backup?
[23:48] <helpplease> and the changes where made while inside my pc box
[23:48] <helpplease> with test disk
[23:48] <helpplease> just gotta read catch up brb
[23:50] <helpplease> i have to go im sorry baby calls
[23:51] <helpplease> thank u very much