[00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #1043: SUCCESS in 7 min 1 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/1043/ [00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kwin build #89: FIXED in 34 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kwin/89/ [00:11] test [00:12] tg bot seems ok now [00:12] \o/ [00:14] [23:55] I think it's now working [00:14] [23:55] I don't know how [00:15] so hope it sticks! [00:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_khotkeys build #70: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_khotkeys/70/ [00:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_powerdevil build #73: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_powerdevil/73/ [00:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_oxygen build #63: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_oxygen/63/ [00:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdeplasma-addons build #75: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdeplasma-addons/75/ [00:28] ZZZzzz... [00:29] @nggraham, I'll be working on it this weekend. Pick a time that works. [00:31] Gotta go in a moment, be back in 3 hours [00:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #77: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/77/ [00:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_cantor build #45: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_cantor/45/ [00:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_amarok build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_amarok/21/ [00:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ark build #74: STILL UNSTABLE in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ark/74/ [00:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kalzium build #46: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kalzium/46/ [01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kmenuedit build #29: FIXED in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kmenuedit/29/ [01:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kstars build #71: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kstars/71/ [01:21] mm that fixed it [01:21] sphinx is not working on my local machine for some reason. [01:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #82: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/82/ [01:45] @nggraham made changes just need to get my key to upload. [01:45] to my new branch. [02:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_plasma-workspace build #81: STILL FAILING in 57 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_plasma-workspace/81/ [03:25] https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/subiquity [03:26] What's new with that? :) [03:26] (That's been a thing for six months, easily) [05:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #114: FAILURE in 4 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/114/ [05:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_akonadiconsole build #44: FAILURE in 4 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_akonadiconsole/44/ [05:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_incidenceeditor build #54: FAILURE in 4 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_incidenceeditor/54/ [05:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdepim-runtime build #55: FAILURE in 4 hr 0 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdepim-runtime/55/ [05:24] 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[11:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_syndication build #69: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_syndication/69/ [11:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #72: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/72/ [11:49] Howdy folks [11:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace build #111: STILL FAILING in 8 min 53 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace/111/ [11:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [11:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_akonadiconsole build #46: FIXED in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_akonadiconsole/46/ [11:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! 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[13:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_calligra build #49: FIXED in 1 hr 41 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_calligra/49/ [13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #418: STILL FAILING in 3 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/418/ [13:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_plasma-workspace build #173: STILL FAILING in 3 min 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_plasma-workspace/173/ [13:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_plasma-workspace build #239: FAILURE in 4 min 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_plasma-workspace/239/ [13:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-workspace build #258: STILL FAILING in 4 min 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-workspace/258/ [13:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #419: STILL FAILING in 3 min 43 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/419/ [13:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-workspace build #259: STILL FAILING in 3 min 43 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-workspace/259/ [13:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_plasma-workspace build #240: STILL FAILING in 3 min 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_plasma-workspace/240/ [13:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_plasma-workspace build #174: STILL FAILING in 5 min 25 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_plasma-workspace/174/ [13:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace build #113: STILL FAILING in 15 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace/113/ [14:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [14:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_plasma-workspace build #85: FIXED in 30 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_plasma-workspace/85/ [14:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace build #114: STILL FAILING in 8 min 54 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace/114/ [14:54] @tsimonq2, OMG Ubuntu says Ubuntu plans to move to that for the desktop. No idea why. [15:13] @ahoneybun, Link? [15:13] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option [15:15] I'm going to have to talk to somebody about that [15:15] O.O [15:19] do we still want to change our launcher icon to the kubuntu logo? [15:20] instead of plasma one [15:20] I wouldn't object. Sounds sensible to me [15:20] ok. just testing config changes at the moment [15:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #3 for job iso_bionic_stable_amd64 (previous build: FIXED) [15:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #420: STILL FAILING in 2 min 39 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/420/ [15:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-workspace build #260: STILL FAILING in 4 min 32 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-workspace/260/ [15:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project iso_bionic_stable_amd64 build #3: SUCCESS in 17 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/iso_bionic_stable_amd64/3/ [15:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace build #421: STILL FAILING in 5 min 21 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-workspace/421/ [15:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-workspace build #261: STILL FAILING in 3 min 41 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-workspace/261/ [15:51] Y. E. [15:56] ? [15:57] @nauticalnexus, ? [15:57] The minimal installer [15:57] That's what I always do. [15:57] ah === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [16:00] I have a kernel warning [16:00] https://hastebin.com/huyemegako.go [16:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [16:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace build #115: FIXED in 37 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-workspace/115/ [16:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2063: SUCCESS in 45 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2063/ [16:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2063: SUCCESS in 1 min 8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2063/ [16:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2063: SUCCESS in 3 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2063/ [16:23] gpunk: probably better asking on #ubuntu or #ubuntu+1 depending on what release you are on. likely to not be KDE specific [16:24] ok, thnx :) [16:27] @nggraham @tsimonq2 @ahoneybun @Valoriez https://i.imgur.com/NnqIaLP.png [16:28] ignore it saying ubuntu. weirdness of the KCI iso [16:28] interesting [16:29] can't decide if I like the logo, or just prefer the plasma kickoff one [16:29] Maybe scale it down a tiny bit? It's not got a lot of padding there [16:30] yeah. not sure how to edit the svg for that [16:31] The Kubuntu logo should be monochromatic [16:32] @acheronuk, Leave the icon where it is,.increase the canvas size. That's the easiest way to solve that [16:32] @MichaelTun, That would be better, but would need someone to do a new svg for us, that would have both elements for light and dark plasma [16:33] The logo is just me playing at the moment. to see if the old scriptery to add it worked [16:33] Send me the svg and I'll do it [16:34] (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jGDPL7xk/file_4638.svg [16:35] 😁 [16:38] @MichaelTun If you go to the effort of doing that, bear in mind it might not get used as default. but would be great to have as an option anyway. [16:39] @acheronuk let me see if I can get someone to work to make a new svg. [16:40] @MichaelTun we need the logo to work on light and dark right? [16:41] @ahoneybun, yes [16:42] I'll see what I can do [16:44] @MichaelTun show desktop applet is there as well. though I don't like locking the panel by default, and changing that plasma config is not as easy [16:44] whoever makes it just needs to make the shapes masked into empty space and the circle be both colors for light and dark [16:44] from a usability standpoint, locking it by default may make sense. We get complaints that it's too easy to accidentally mess up your panel when it's unlocked [16:45] (from a recent collection of user feedback for the Usability & Productivity initiative) [16:46] @nggraham, yes, but thsi would be the default on a fresh install. from then on it's the user who leaves it locked or not. not the default config [16:46] locking it also locks widgets in general so I think it shouldnt be locked because of that. If they want to add a widget they have to know they need to unlock them first. … I think either way there are equally problematic issues [16:46] right [16:47] if you could lock only the panel and nothing else that would be perfect but not possible right? [16:47] lock widgets does the lot [17:03] @acheronuk, yea thats why I suggest against it [17:04] any way to make it so the icons on the desktop are not by default overlaying the desktop toolbox hamburger menu? … Not change the system to not allow that . . . just by default to have them one grid slot over. [17:05] that's a bug in Plasma unfortunately [17:05] @MichaelTun What? The icons are on the left. Desktop toolbox is top right. [17:05] the button is *supposed* to be on the right side [17:05] but sometimes it breaks and moves over to the left side [17:05] See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390038 [17:05] KDE bug 390038 in Desktop Toolbox "Desktop Toolbox should be in top-right corner to keep it from intruding on Folder View icons" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [17:06] I patched our stuff to force it top right [17:06] several releases ago [17:06] cool. Any chance you could submit youtr patch upstream, or leave a comment in that bug? [17:07] I am almost certain it placed it on top left when I tested out 18.04 a few days ago. I will test it later today to confirm [17:07] it's a trivial patch. just did it there as could not get a desktop config file to work for it at that time [17:08] (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/pzsCPgTI/file_4639.md [17:08] https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/patches/kubuntu_non_conflicting_toolbox_location.patch?h=kubuntu_bionic_archive [17:09] Michael, would you mind immortalizing those in Phabricator tasks (those that aren't already tracked there, that is) [17:09] > Previews in Dolphin On by Default … Already done upstream, happily! [17:09] (by me) :) [17:10] @nggraham, what branch? [17:10] Dolphin master, let me go dig it up [17:11] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338492 [17:11] KDE bug 338492 in general "File icon previews should be turned on for all icon types by default" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed] [17:11] should be in KDE Applications 18.04 [17:11] @nggraham, not sure which are already there but yea I could make a task . . . I dont want to just assume someone will do this though might seem presumptious or is phab not always treated as "must do' [17:11] @ubottu, SWEET [17:12] for double-click settings, we already have https://phabricator.kde.org/T7928 [17:12] > Show Application Names Instead of Description … I'd like that quite a lot [17:13] there's a setting for having it use the name first, and the description second, which I think is sane [17:14] > Disable the Jack Russell Terrier Bouncing Icons … Launch feedback is important, especially for people with slower, older hardware. If the effect it's annoying, we should work upstream to improve it or add a better one, not disable it entirelyu [17:15] today's daily: https://i.imgur.com/aFEVuir.jpg [17:15] or actually, for the Dolphin previews, I think those are in 17.12 [17:16] @MichaelTun ^^^ [17:16] @nggraham, that is why I suggested static first [17:16] @acheronuk, nice! [17:17] should I just make these for Kubuntu or also tag Plasma in general? [17:21] @nggraham ^^^ ? [17:21] In general I'm more in favor of using sane defaults upstream. If there's something that we should consider upstream, let's bring it up there too. But having a major distro change something can also act as leverage [17:22] if we have a successful release with (for example) double-click-as-default for 18.04, then we can go upstream and say, "see, everybody liked it! Consider changing the default" [17:22] I agree [17:22] so just Kubuntu for now? [17:22] * acheronuk gets his lever pulling gloves out [17:23] @MichaelTun, Probably, yeah [17:23] in phab you said double click is unlikely for 18.04 is that the case? [17:23] no, it's unlikely Upstream will change it in time for us to inherit that in 18.04 [17:23] we can definitely change it ourselves in Kubuntu [17:23] ok fantastic! [17:24] Every time I bring it up in the VDG room, folks seem to like the idea of changing that [17:24] it's just a matter of overcoming the inertia, ya know? [17:24] changing anything is always scary [17:24] same with moving that toolbox! [17:24] the dang toolbox is supposed to be on the right! It's just buggy, really [17:25] @nggraham, the default configs say not [17:25] really? [17:25] which is why I patched them [17:25] can you mention that in the bug report? [17:25] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390038 [17:25] KDE bug 390038 in Desktop Toolbox "Desktop Toolbox should be in top-right corner to keep it from intruding on Folder View icons" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [17:27] @nggraham, https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-desktop.git/tree/containments/desktop/package/contents/config/main.xml?h=Plasma/5.12#n23 [17:27] … Position state of the toolbox button. … topleft [17:27] @nggraham, this is why I am excited to contrib to Kubuntu . . . every time I have made Plasma suggestions in the past they always get shot down even if people liked them. … Things actually getting changed in Kubuntu is exciting to me :) [17:28] Disable the Jack Russell Terrier Launch Feedback … https://phabricator.kde.org/T7976 [17:29] on that subject, I think it would be a great opportunity to involve KDE's VDG. [17:29] I agree that the current effect is a big dated, but I think some kind of animation is beneficial [17:29] we just need to get an animation that's not annoting! [17:29] would you be able to bring that up to VDG? [17:30] should I link to the task? [17:30] I would start in the VDG telegram room to gauge the reaction [17:30] if it's positive, start a new task for VDG, and mention the Kubuntu task [17:31] you know, or something like that [17:34] @nggraham in that bug, I think Kai means the postioning logic for icons not conflicting with a left toolbox is broken, not the toolbox should be right top but is broken. [17:34] or at least that seems to be what I remeber from plasma 5.9 discussion [17:35] ah [17:35] crossed wires maybe [17:35] we wouldn't even need any positioning logic if the dang thing was in the right place to begin with :) [17:40] @nggraham, yep. That's why I didn't wait for them to fix it. glad I didn't, as it's still broke 3 plasma versions later! [17:42] @nggraham @MichaelTun You're welcome (and anyone else is, ofc) to join #ubuntu-qt on freenode which is bridged to @ubuntuqt fwiw [17:42] That's where the Qt discussion happens [17:49] ok. back later. [18:48] https://phabricator.kde.org/T7977 [18:58] https://phabricator.kde.org/T7978 [19:04] https://phabricator.kde.org/T7979 [19:09] :D [19:13] argh. I dunno how to change this stuff. 🤣 [19:13] * acheronuk will work it out.... [19:13] many of these things are also things I'd like to move or at least discuss upstream [19:14] e.g. Kickoff attracts a lot of criticism and needs work, or else to be merged with Kicker to produce one really great menu that everyone actually likes [19:15] at the moment I'm doing: … - make .config a git repo … - make a change in the UI … - git diff to see what changed! [19:22] made a new branch with the change: https://phabricator.kde.org/T7944 [19:24] another, https://phabricator.kde.org/T7980 [19:25] what other linux DEs use Ctrl+H? GNOME? [19:25] (this is a trivial upstreram change so I'd prefer to do it there) [19:25] every other file manager . . . period [19:26] So Nautilus, Nemo, Caja, Pantheon, and Thunar? They all use Ctrl+H? [19:26] never tried Pantheon but yes to all the others [19:26] ok [19:26] that's a good argument [19:26] Please file a bug against Dolphin and link it here [19:26] I'll try to get that done soon [19:27] that I think is more upstream then us? [19:27] yup [19:27] I'm proposing to do it upstream [19:27] I'll submit a patch [19:28] bug reporting incoming [19:28] cool [19:29] Let me know if there are any other changes that need to be made on the slideshow. Once all are fixed I'll submit to be merged. [19:30] quite a few, actually! [19:30] let me send you the phab tasks [19:30] actually just two [19:30] https://phabricator.kde.org/T7966 … https://phabricator.kde.org/T7943 [19:45] on the first one. there is no breeze icon for firefox at this time I believe. [19:46] second one is a bit tough, I've trying to cut down on that so much but it still is outside. I'll try again. [19:49] right, and there can't be a breeze icon for firefox; their policy prohibits it [19:49] we should just use the standard Firefox icon [19:50] thank you I've added myself to the tasks. [19:50] awesome! [19:50] the firefox icon looks out of place though. [19:50] it'll be the onle one with a warm color in there, yes [19:51] maybe we should add another app or two with a warm color to balance it out [19:51] but we absolutely have to have Firefox's real icon there. it's a matter of both usability and legality [19:53] well we are looking to switch to Falkon anyway. [19:53] and that will have a breeze like icon if it does not already. [19:53] we are still working on the icon [19:53] it will probably be blue/purple [19:53] See https://phabricator.kde.org/T6859 [19:53] right but it will be ready for 18.04 from what I saw in the email. [19:54] are we sure we want to use a non-Firefox browser? I'm all for supporting KDE software, but the web browser is kind of a special case [19:55] from my understanding the plan is to make it the default, firefox can still be installed later if it is needed. [19:56] we can still debate it of course. [19:56] I won't die on that hill, because Falkon is pretty nice. But it is also fairly new to KDE, and maybe not the best thing to switch up on our users for an LTS [19:57] I would be more enthusiatsic about doing this for 18.10 [19:57] Falkon is too new to switch to for the LTS. [19:57] after it's had more development time and will be shown to more technically advanced users [19:57] @acheronuk, +1, yeah [19:57] Firefox has the mindshare. It should be the default even if falkon is installed as well [19:57] LTS == stable and boring == Firefox 😝 [19:58] Firefox is tried, and trusted. [19:58] @nggraham, lol, yes [19:58] Falkon would be a great experiment for 18.10 [19:58] Falkon is problematic, because QtWebengine has no quick fixes and security updates [19:59] and that ^^^ [19:59] Experiment in 18.10 is more reasonable but not for default honestly [19:59] yeah, that's exactly the reason I won't use use any of these small web browsers [19:59] we would be making ourselves resposible for our distro browser security [19:59] Firefox has poor integration with Plasma, but security is just priority #1 for a web browser [19:59] whereas with FF, that is done for us [19:59]