[01:24] <malibu> Hi there, I'm finding that I'm getting a lot of 404s for Ubuntu repositories these days.  How do I go about fixing this issue?
[01:25] <malibu> This is for Ubuntu 17.04
[01:25] <malibu> zesty
[01:26] <krytarik> !zesty
[01:27] <malibu> So they just turn off the repository??
[01:27] <malibu> I thought 04 was long support
[01:27] <krytarik> Sure, because it's EOL - and for a month now.
[01:27] <krytarik> Nope, only even years.
[01:27] <malibu> I thought all 04 was LTS
[01:28] <krytarik> !lts
[01:28] <malibu> ok, but the reason I like ubuntu is because apt makes it easy to get out of situations like this.  So how do  I get to a supported level?
[01:29] <krytarik> !eolupgrade
[01:29] <malibu> I see what you did there
[01:31] <malibu> Isn't there just a script I can run?  This page seems rather complex
[01:31] <malibu> It should just be sed replacements on apt sources
[01:33] <malibu> This page does not explain the exact sources I need to have configured
[01:35] <malibu> Would this have been easier if it was before the EOL?
[01:40] <malibu> So, can I confirm, if I update my repo list manually to go to the current version, then I should be able to dist-upgrade?
[01:41] <malibu> Or do I need to reinstall?
[01:43] <krytarik> Yes, and no.
[01:50] <malibu> what does yes and no mean?
[01:51] <malibu> crap.. trying to update my sources list but I don't have curl installed..
[02:00] <malibu> So does ubuntu no longer offer dist-updates?
[02:24] <valorie> malibu: the proper sequence is `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[02:24] <valorie> or more modern: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[02:25] <valorie> or what I now use: `sudo pkcon refresh && sudo pkcon update`
[02:25] <valorie> you don't need curl
[07:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:10] <user|42931> where do i get the sys requirements for 14.05...?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:53] <lost_In_Space> just re-installed kubuntu and im pretty happy with the state of things.
[11:54] <lost_In_Space> last time i added an hp printer i installed HP's blob which asked me for the root password which made me un  settled.
[11:54] <lost_In_Space> can i print on an HP with out installing anything from HP?
[11:59] <lordievader> If you are able to find an opensource driver for your printer.... however, I don't think those are available.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hplip driver should be installed by default
[12:07] <hateball> you may still be required to download/install additional firmware for some models
[12:08] <hateball> and that's why you are prompted for elevated rights, to put the blobs in a system readable location
[12:52] <TheQuestionmark> I try to log into KDE but stuck on the session manager with 16.04, is there anything I can do? The tty works fine.
[12:52] <hateball> TheQuestionmark: did this use to work?
[12:53] <hateball> TheQuestionmark: Have you by any chance used "sudo" to run GUI apps?
[12:53] <TheQuestionmark> Well, we are talking about my daily driver.
[12:54] <TheQuestionmark> As for sudo, that needs me to get to the desktop in the first place :(
[12:54] <hateball> TheQuestionmark: I am asking if you have done that previously
[12:55] <hateball> as that can mess up your X
[12:55] <TheQuestionmark> Nope
[12:55] <hateball> TheQuestionmark: if you can login to tty, make sure you are the owner of ~/.Xauthority
[12:56] <TheQuestionmark> Ah, I might see the issue.
[12:56] <TheQuestionmark> My home partition is encrypted and for whatever reason it locked me off.
[14:55] <lost_In_Space> installing printer is always not fun
[14:55] <lost_In_Space> im on the hp linux page it says my printer needs a plug in above and beyond hplips
[14:55] <lost_In_Space> but does not link to the plug in
[14:56] <lost_In_Space> the printer settings module recommends the driver but also doesn't pull it down
[15:19] <lost_In_Space> im in a closed loop on the hp web site
[15:19] <lost_In_Space> go here for this
[15:19] <lost_In_Space> wrong now go here
[15:19] <lost_In_Space> oh your back
[15:21] <genii> Almost every HP printer will work out of the box with a generic postscript driver
[15:25] <lost_In_Space> can you tell me how to force the printer installer to use a postscript driver
[15:26] <lost_In_Space> i see how to push the driver in there
[15:26] <lost_In_Space> where should i get the generic driver
[15:27] <genii> Just use IPP printer, port 9100, generic postscript. But you do need to know the IP address the printer has
[15:27] <lost_In_Space> i have that
[15:27] <lost_In_Space> thanks
[15:38] <lost_In_Space> WOW thanks genii that worked!
[15:38] <genii> np
[15:38] <hateball> lost_In_Space: if you had wanted to install the proper firmware, just run "hp-setup" and you get a nice gui to do so
[15:39] <hateball> that is part of hplip
[15:39] <hateball> ... which is installed by default
[15:39] <hateball> if you need more advanced functions of the printer/scanner, a generic driver is not always sufficient
[15:40] <lost_In_Space> the last time i did that two years ago hp asked for the root password . made feel sullied
[15:40] <hateball> Like I said earlier, because it puts the firmware in... I think /lib
[15:40] <lost_In_Space> now that they have slipped further down the pole of trust not wanting to have any of there code on my box
[15:41] <lost_In_Space> they have a whole linux site
[15:41] <hateball> This is just irrational, so I'll back off
[15:41] <lost_In_Space> if there were reputable they would let you have the driver and you could drop it where it needs to be and change the permisiions
[15:43] <lost_In_Space> i do tend to be irrational, but this is more of a non knowledgeable situation , when in doubt of were to give my password i try to errr on the side of safer not to
[15:43] <lost_In_Space> when some box ive never seen before pops up and says enter your root password rational me says yea id rather not print then
[15:44] <lost_In_Space> any way supper happy with my kubuntu
[15:44] <lost_In_Space> thanks for the fish
[18:07] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm on Kubuntu 17.10 (with Plasma 5.12 installed). I tried to install latte-dock (from backports), but it crashes with a segmentation-fault. I wonder if this is a know problem or if there's anything I can do about it.
[18:09] <acheronuk> Mrokii: delete contents of ~/.cache/lattedock/qmlcache/
[18:09] <acheronuk> then might it work
[18:11] <Mrokii> acheronuk: I've tried that and there seems to be some progress. At least it starts now, thanks. But it doesn't seem to work properly still. The grey bar is shown, but no icons.
[18:13] <acheronuk> Mrokii: do you get the settings option on a right click?
[18:14] <Mrokii> acheronuk: yes.
[18:14] <acheronuk> and they work?
[18:15] <Mrokii> I'm trying out options currently.
[18:15] <acheronuk> it all works for me, so can't really say what to do more that just try stuff
[18:16] <Mrokii> Okay. I've found something out. The originally chosen layout is named "my layout" (whatever that means). When I choose "Plasma", the icons appear. But that changes the dock to a bar that spans almost all of the lower border of the screen. I'll see if I can get it to work properly.
[18:19] <Mrokii> Really weird. No the icons appeared with "my layout". I have no clue why though. But thanks again, it seems to start now. I'll see how it will behave upon restarts.
[18:27] <Mrokii> acheronuk: Do you happen to know how to remove widgets from the dock? There doesn't seem to be an otpion in the popup-menu, just one to add widgets.
[18:29] <acheronuk> Mrokii: open the settings. then with that open, hover over the widgets. should then have a pop up widget handle with a red X
[18:35] <Mrokii> acheronuk: ahoneybun That didn't work for me but I edited the latte-configuration-file by hand and got rid of the widget. :)
[18:41] <NightUser> Hello
[18:42] <Mrokii> NightUser: hello.
[18:42] <NightUser> Uhh
[18:42] <NightUser> Should I install kubuntu or ArhLinux ?
[18:43] <NightUser> I just want to get started with linux
[18:44] <piotr_> NightUser: using recent Ubuntu LTS pretty much results with least (to none) level of frustration
[18:44] <Mrokii> I have never tried out Arch, but I read it's not too suitable for beginners. But I could be wrong.
[18:44] <NightUser> ok
[18:44] <Mrokii> Kubuntu works just fine out of the box though.
[18:45] <Mrokii> At least it did for me, heh. But I have installed it on a few computers without any problems.
[18:45] <NightUser> Does kubuntu still support C#
[18:45] <piotr_> NightUser: I wouldn't recommend any rolling distro as things change unexpectedly
[18:47] <piotr_> NightUser: I recall writing some C# code and using mono on Ubuntu (even with some IDE - monodevelop?) but I'm not sure now if I hadn't have to install some external packages outside of what distro offers.
[18:47] <NightUser> ok
[18:47] <piotr_> NightUser: apt-cache search suggests that there are packages for monodevelop.
[18:49] <NightUser> ok
[18:49] <NightUser> Thanks
[19:37] <nickolay> hi guys. does anybody have ready hosts file for blocking coin miners?
[20:48] <daum> hey guys - any ideas why my mic would be showing as plugged in in pavucontrol but then no audio still?
[23:57] <Roey> hello0
[23:57] <Roey> I need a little help here... I got a hard drive, put it in my external enclosure... turned it on.. I can hear it whirring but I don't see any new device for it in lsblk
[23:57] <Roey> lsusb shows the enclosure's detected thoguh