[00:22] <diddledan> interesting WSL developments: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/02/07/windowswsl-interop-with-af_unix/
[00:27] <diddledan> why do folk love to point out when they're the "first" to comment, message, etc. in a forum or chat?
[01:04] <zmoylan-pi> it's now an online comment trope... as much as a hello mum sign behind a tv commentator
[01:29] <daftykins> diddledan: idiots on the internets!
[01:29] <diddledan> INORITE
[01:31] <daftykins> what's funny is when someone does that and gets second ;D
[01:54] <ali1234> unix sockets eh? that should make running a desktop environment a lot easier
[01:58] <diddledan>  "How To Make Package Managers Cry" (https://youtu.be/NSemlYagjIU)
[01:59] <diddledan> Desktop environments is one thing, but what about sharing ssh-agent between dows and wsl?!
[01:59] <daftykins> Comic Sans >_<
[01:59] <diddledan> ><
[02:00] <diddledan> Irccloud!!!!!!!
[02:00] <diddledan> Y U show comic sans in comic sans?!
[02:00] <daftykins> seriously?
[02:00] <diddledan> Aye
[02:03] <daftykins> that's a pretty amusing trick :D
[02:03] <daftykins> so does it change the entire line if i refer to Comic Sans mid sentence?
[02:04] <diddledan> No, just the words comic sans. The rest is untouched
[02:04] <daftykins> ah, that's acceptable
[02:08] <diddledan> cimic sans https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yPThGuGu/Capture%2B_2018-02-15-02-07-38.png
[02:23] <daftykins> how's this for a quirky one, an optical drive of mine is giving loads of errors on certain audio tracks of multiple CDs, but they go away if i cancel and restart...
[02:23] <daftykins> must be the drive flaking out :S
[02:29] <diddledan> Might be having trouble focusing
[02:32] <daftykins> if i eject and reload then rip a same track again, it comes back fine though
[02:33] <daftykins> this is using EAC with accuraterip together with the test and copy method, so the CRCs are compared between then also against a database of known values online
[02:37] <ali1234> probably the drive belt is getting worn out
[02:37] <ali1234> stopping it will allow it to cool and grip again
[02:38] <ali1234> do CD drives even have drive belts? ;)
[02:39] <ali1234> sometimes apparently http://lampizator.eu/LAMPIZATOR/REFERENCES/cec51/cec-26.jpg
[02:40] <daftykins> it's a pretty annoying drive as i have to hit eject about 20 times typically to open it up, something sits and spins most of the time
[02:40] <daftykins> only when it's been idle for a while, though
[02:40] <daftykins> real shame as it's been ace and fast for accurate rips
[02:42] <ali1234> that is also caused by a worn out belt, but a different one
[02:42] <ali1234> not so much worn out as just perished
[02:44] <daftykins> yip, but i think i've already had it open - or maybe i'm thinking of another drive
[02:45] <daftykins> anywho onto the next disc i suppose
[03:21] <daftykins> more concerningly, ever have half your face suddenly begin peeling for no good reason - and nothing helps? not even moisturising...
[03:23] <daftykins> life and its' little surprises
[09:03] <foobarry> got me some nvidia volta GPUs..these things are fast
[09:08] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:49] <brobostigon> o/
[09:59] <SuperMatt> \o
[14:54] <diddledan> foobarry: how much were those voltas?
[15:00] <diddledan> the Dual EC DRBG problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nybVFJVXbww
[16:59] <diddledan> any non IANALs? looking at my philips hue copyright blurb they offer source code for the gpl stuff "up to three years from purchase". Just wondering if they're allowed to limit the availability term there
[18:50] <zmoylan-pi> they might just have the code on a floppy disc... good luck reading that after a few years sitting on a shelf... :-)
[19:59] <diddledan> *hug* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNdQJSlg54
[20:23] <ali1234> popey: does anyone ever look at the moderation queue on ubuntu-devel mailing list? cos will replied to my mail but i still didn't get a moderation response either way. "Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision."
[20:24] <popey> I think so
[20:24] <ali1234> i assume he picked it up from the CC
[20:24] <popey> looks like cjwatson is the only person
[20:27] <ali1234> i can understand if the queue is a bit larger than normal after that post :)
[20:27] <popey> heh
[20:28] <popey> I think everyone is posting their carefully considered thoughts elsewhere tbh
[20:33] <ali1234> actually this happened the last time i tried to post there
[20:33] <ali1234> that was 6 years ago though
[20:51] <diddledan> something fun going on?
[20:51]  * diddledan will check the ml in a bit
[20:51] <popey> define $fun
[20:51] <diddledan> popcorn throwing at the moaning idiots?
[20:52] <diddledan> I saw Xen posted his retirement from "helping"
[20:52] <diddledan> curiously it was almost immediately after Zeljan stopped talking on the Ubuntu Podcast telegram
[20:53] <diddledan> my mind correlated those events
[21:55] <diddledan> dear god spammers will try anything: "Get your WikiPedia Page at 85% off"
[21:58] <zmoylan-pi> as george carlin said, think of the average intelligence and remember that 50% are dumber than that and they'll get loads of clicks...
[22:00] <brobostigon> if like myself and my father you have an average IQ 154, thats a standaard.
[22:01] <brobostigon> betweem us, i mean.
[22:03] <zmoylan-pi> yes but as you age your gullibility goes up...
[22:06] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: if your my father, his enginerring creativity ideas goes up, but the logic goes downhill.
[22:10] <brobostigon> zmoylan-pi: or when he has studied nuclear physics and worked at sellafield, and you wonder why he doesnt understand the basics of quantum mechanics.
[22:11] <diddledan> there's a reason they call quantum things such names as "spooky action at a distance" - specifically because NOBODY understands it
[22:13] <diddledan> see with that particular one, it kinda breaks the rule that information cannot travel faster than light, because if you move the entangled pair apart far enough you can use it for instantaneous data transfer faster than light can travel
[22:14] <zmoylan-pi> wormholes... :-)
[22:14] <brobostigon> thats exactly the point, they are entangled, time and space is irrelivant.
[22:15] <diddledan> it will be interesting when we actually start using such methods for communication - imagine being on mars with a data link to earth with zero latency beyond the normal internetty style latencies
[22:16] <brobostigon> one could be one side of the universe and the other totally the opposite side, space and time doesnt matter for thst entanglement.
[22:17] <diddledan> I love the ideas that such properties can enable
[22:17] <brobostigon> diddledan: i dont think we can manipulate quantum particles on those fine scales with that accuracy yet.
[22:18] <diddledan> I don't suppose we can, but imagine it when we develop those skills!
[22:19] <diddledan> we'll probably be close to large scale fusion at that point, too :-p
[22:20] <brobostigon> i read about quantum mechanics when i was a teenager and i couldnt help but be consume by the idea, it seemed perfectly right for my teenage autie mind,
[22:20] <diddledan> :-)
[22:20] <brobostigon> now that would be good, :)
[22:21] <brobostigon> diddledan: i was one of those people, when i had physics lessons, i corrected my physics teacher during lessons.
[22:22] <diddledan> I did that, too
[22:22] <zmoylan-pi> it might have it's downsides... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Light_of_Other_Days
[22:22] <daftykins> Mass Effect had entangled communication devices :> that was fun
[22:23] <brobostigon> diddledan: and i still do it now, when people get it wildly wrong.
[22:24] <diddledan> he wouldn't agree with me when I told him that mains voltage in the uk is specced to operate closer to 230 than 240 for interoperability with the European providers (although these days we seem to be hovering at around 246 where I am in Amazingstoke)
[22:25] <daftykins> how's that vary throughout the day?
[22:26] <zmoylan-pi> i once argued with a teacher who insisted that sunday was the start of the week for over an hour... was super popular with rest of the class as no one had the homework done for that day :-)
[22:26] <diddledan> lol
[22:27] <diddledan> it doesn't tend to drop below 240, but it'll vary a few V either way depending on load. I've seen it pop over 254 before at which point my UPS goes into AVR mode
[22:27] <daftykins> i have a client who sets their Outlook calendar like that, insanity
[22:27] <zmoylan-pi> i couldn't let it pass when he tried to pass off that nonsense as the truth...
[22:27] <diddledan> "my arbitrary decision has no more or less relevance than yours" :-p
[22:28] <diddledan> I vote Wednesday as the start!
[22:29] <daftykins> my UPS currently states over 77 million volts
[22:29] <daftykins> ace software
[22:29] <diddledan> hmm, what have you got it plugged into?!
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> except that in uk and ireland monday is the legal definition. in astronomy too for record keeping
[22:30] <diddledan> did you pull the undersea cable and shove it directly into your UPS??!
[22:30] <daftykins> a big cable snaking across to Cape de la Hague power station ;D
[22:45] <daftykins> ah there we go, 246 - 248
[22:46] <diddledan> one to snap? https://www.myabandonware.com/game/blade-runner-a43
[22:46] <diddledan> I should probably get a graphing thing plugged into my ups and see the overall trends
[23:00] <daftykins> i wonder if it has all the original video sequences