[00:04] <rick_h> There next "you're holding it wrong"? https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/apple-homepod-white-ring-wooden-table-staining-issue-problem
[00:55] <cmaloney> I'm sure we're just being critical of Apple
[00:55] <cmaloney> That said, I'll be damned if I'm buying one of Apple's expensive speakers. :)
[01:02] <jrwren> i'd get one, but it only works with subscription services which I don't use.
[10:03] <Scary_Guy> I'd get one, but I'm insane https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a3MzOb5_700b.jpg
[11:45] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:18] <waldo323_> good morning
[14:39] <jrwren> Scary_Guy: that too!
[14:39] <jrwren> by modern standards, I'm a ludite. I have no interest in smart home toys.
[14:40] <cmaloney> jrwren: Same here
[14:41] <cmaloney> I don't want that sort of stuff heading to the cloud
[14:43] <rick_h> jrwren: you can't use your itunes library with it?
[14:44] <jrwren> rick_h: afaik, no, you cannot.  You CAN use your itunes MATCH library, if you subscribe to that.
[14:44] <rick_h> that sucks
[14:44] <jrwren> yup.
[14:44] <rick_h> I assumed all apple music stuff would play through it, like an airplay type thing
[14:46] <jrwren> yes, you can use airplay, but that means no voice control, clicking in itunes until you find what you want and dedicating an app on a separate devices to playback via airplay.
[14:47] <jrwren> wow, good discussion. This raises the question: can siri on a mac control itunes? could you get an old mac mini, load it up with a library and plug it into a nice stereo system to have poor mans voice control?
[14:47] <jrwren> For that matter, can cortana on windows do the same thing?
[14:47] <rick_h> it's what I do with chromecasts (w/o a mini/etc)
[14:48] <rick_h> hook them up to speakers around the house and play what I can cast where I want it
[14:49] <jrwren> with voice control?
[14:49] <jrwren> I do that with just bluetooth in a couple locations around the house, but its always annoying to change the speaker target.
[14:50] <jrwren> I'm thinking a tiny PC with full music library on it.
[14:50] <rick_h> yea, at least with my phone I can ask google assistant to do it
[14:50] <rick_h> "hey google, play imagine dragons in the office
[14:50] <jrwren> oh! that is nice!
[14:51] <cmaloney> That's cool
[14:51] <jrwren> i do not think that I can do that. Maybe siri could if i had any functioning airplay devices?
[14:51] <rick_h> maybe
[14:51] <jrwren> but, I've now thought about this enough that I'm annoyed and frustrated by the artificial vendor walls. Back to doing nothing about it.
[14:51] <rick_h> and then you can group them (but only the chromecast audio :( ) and so I've got one that's "house" so I can play across them all
[14:52] <rick_h> yea, it's always so annoying...every time I want to listen to my audible book on my speakers around the house...fail
[14:53] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's like we're re-creating broadcast silos yet again
[14:54] <jrwren> broadcast! great idea! build 1W FM transmitter. Use that. :)
[14:54] <cmaloney> Though I'd love to see how one of the assistants handles something like "Play Rollins"
[14:55] <cmaloney> "Rollins Band? Henry Rollins Spoken Word? Sonny Rollins?"
[14:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: 1000 W. I have a FCC license. :)
[14:55] <jrwren> There is only 1 song that matches Rollins in my library, lol.
[14:56] <jrwren> cmaloney: o_O  really?  what freq?
[14:56] <cmaloney> Or some of these Cryillic band names
[14:56] <rick_h> "sure, sunny rollins from google play music playing on office"
[14:56] <rick_h> cmaloney: ^ your answer lol
[14:56] <cmaloney> College radio back in the 1990s
[14:56] <cmaloney> rick_h: Naturally. :)
[14:57] <jrwren> yeah, something tells me no matter how many times I say three teeth, its not going to match 3teeth, and I'm not even sure how I'd get it to recognize Δamon
[14:57] <cmaloney> <3 3TEETH
[14:57] <jrwren> I bet it can't even "zandria" to Xandria
[14:58] <cmaloney> Play Einshturshend... play Einstur mumble New baaat... Play "Halber Mensch"
[14:58] <jrwren> I'd ask mac siri all of these things, but I have a great playlist playing I dont' want to interrupt :)
[14:58] <jrwren> cmaloney: hahahaha.
[14:59] <jrwren> eyensturzenday noybowten :)
[16:13] <jrwren> OMG, our conversation about byobu and tmux last week, i just realized that if I switch to straight tmux and make my own pretty status bar I can use 256 colors and italics. bump it up in the todo a few notches ;)
[16:20] <rick_h> hah
[16:23] <cmaloney> See?
[16:23] <cmaloney> I wonder if Dustin still uses Byobu TBH
[17:21] <Scary_Guy> @Cmaloney, if it saves search history or can build a profile of what you might want based on previous number of searches it might know.  Still if you searched for all of them maybe it would freak out
[17:23] <Scary_Guy> I love 3TEETH, see them at Small's constantly.  Last time they were in town they went there just to hang out.  I helped them out once with a video converter when they were in a bind and they never forgot that
[17:23] <cmaloney> All three are in my collection so it would probably freak out. :)
[17:23] <cmaloney> <3
[17:23] <Scary_Guy> and I can attest they are the NICEST people ever
[17:25] <Scary_Guy> https://mycroft.ai looks interesting too
[17:26] <Scary_Guy> someone also mentioned Imagine Dragons.  I saw that on Reddit and didn't look too closely.  Now I'll have to look closer so thanks for that
[17:26] <jrwren> Scary_Guy: 3teeth plays smalls constantly?  damn! i've missed out.
[17:29] <Scary_Guy> not really the same at all, but I have The Gothsicles playing City Club this Saturday
[17:30] <jrwren> zomg! hilarious
[17:30] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs53c0q6kHg
[18:13] <hpucks> byobu++
[18:17] <Scary_Guy> that's a thing?  or do you just mean it's doublepluss good?
[18:27] <cmaloney> Christ, having an opinion about how cryptocurrency is a complete waste of time can really bring out the "well actually" in folks.
[18:31] <jrwren> cmaloney: i've lost friends.
[18:32] <brousch> cmaloney: Don't you want to get rich quick?
[18:32] <jrwren> ok, not really.
[18:32] <jrwren> i've ignored acquaintences.
[18:32] <brousch> Turn $10 of electricity into $3 of digital coins?
[18:33] <cmaloney> https://octodon.social/@craigmaloney/99530369408600196
[18:33] <cmaloney> That's what promped this
[18:35] <Scary_Guy> I think like most things a lucky few invested in it and actually did get rich quick.  many hype it up like some MLM scheme hoping to do the same.  and many more will lose out when the bubble bursts
[18:36] <Scary_Guy> as long as you recognize that it is volatile it's fine.  treat it like gambling, don't invest more than you're willing to lose
[18:36] <Scary_Guy> we had a pretty good discussion about the browser mining assholes in the 2600 IRC
[18:38] <Scary_Guy> one guy thinks it's less of a problem than it is.  it would be really nice if people would dedicate that computing power to something like BOINC (is that still a thing?  I kinda stopped because mine is 10 years old and useless)
[18:38] <Scary_Guy> neat, looks like it is
[18:38] <cmaloney> The thing that bugs me the most about it is having an opinion that it's a waste of time and resources is somehow not permitted
[18:39] <cmaloney> and worse, that folks find it profitable enough to do this shit on portable devices, laptops, etc is akin to someone arriving at my house with a backhoe and nibbling at my yard until they find something
[18:40] <Scary_Guy> I mean, I do like it because digital money not tied to the credit card companies or banks.  there are some adblockers that will automatically block those sites/that activity too
[18:41] <Scary_Guy> but as my friend in the other channel said the people wise enough to block that are the ones with computers powerful enough to actually do something
[18:41] <cmaloney> Yeah
[18:41] <cmaloney> I also don't want my parents to call me up complaining that their machine sounds like it's having a heart-attack
[18:41] <brousch> I made decent money on crypto in 2017
[18:41] <Scary_Guy> most technologically illiterate people don't have fast computers at all, and phones aren't anywhere near actual desktops yet
[18:41] <Scary_Guy> especially dedicated miners
[18:42] <brousch> You would need millions of phones mining to make anything
[18:43] <Scary_Guy> the gaming community is super pissed off because miners keep on buying up all the latest greatest graphics cards too in bulk for their mining rigs
[18:44] <cmaloney> brousch: I don't deny there's money to be made on it
[18:44] <Scary_Guy> this is also raising the prices of said cards too.  at least some companies have a buying limit
[18:44] <Scary_Guy> I do, so hopefully people will stop or slow down
[18:45] <cmaloney> it just has the same icky feeling that I got from hydroponics, vape stores, and cell-phone repair
[18:45] <cmaloney> in that there's legit uses but it's overrun with get-rich-quick dude-bros and douchebags
[18:45] <brousch> What's wrong with hydroponics?!
[18:45] <Scary_Guy> hell, do all the shady things.  diversification is smart after all :p
[18:46] <brousch> http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-of-aerofarms-the-worlds-largest-vertical-farm-in-newark-2016-2
[18:46] <cmaloney> brousch: When medical marijuana was a new thing in MI there were a glut of hydroponics stores
[18:46] <Scary_Guy> hydro is great, I love how marijuana is making people cash.  I hate stoner culture though
[18:46] <brousch> I think crypto is less legit than hydroponics
[18:46] <cmaloney> My bro-in-law did hydro but he did it to grow veggies
[18:47] <cmaloney> until a horde of wasps took up residence in his house. :)
[18:47] <Scary_Guy> ouch
[18:47] <brousch> I'm not sure it's more legit than gambling
[18:47] <Scary_Guy> everything is a gamble.  still I wish I got into Bitcoin back in 2009 when I found out about it
[18:47] <cmaloney> I have the same feelings about gambling, but that at least has govt. regulation to keep it in check
[18:48] <brousch> Right
[18:48] <cmaloney> one of the places I interviewed at had a really sweet espresso machine that they bought with crypto
[18:48] <Scary_Guy> regulation doesn't really help.  people still lose their houses, the gov just wants a cut
[18:48] <cmaloney> so I don't deny it has value
[18:48] <brousch> Heh, the govt is getting about 28% of my crypto gains
[18:48] <cmaloney> Scary_Guy: I mean regs as in having a modicum of fairness to it
[18:49] <Scary_Guy> if gambling was fair, there wouldn't be casinos :p
[18:49] <Scary_Guy> house always wins, always
[18:49] <cmaloney> Slot machines that have at least some level of fairness to them
[18:49] <cmaloney> Oh I know
[18:49] <Scary_Guy> and if it doesn't you're banned
[18:50] <jrwren> BEES!!!!!!!!
[18:50] <Scary_Guy> Oprah.gif
[18:50] <jrwren> https://medium.com/@jayrwren/more-wasps-5ebbd66aca
[18:51] <cmaloney> jrwren: Heh. :)
[18:51] <cmaloney> My aunt sayst hat she had bees
[18:51] <Scary_Guy> oh man, that douchebag cop photo is everywhere, best meme ever
[18:51] <cmaloney> as well, but they were yellow jackets as well
[18:52] <brousch> mining is annoying at home. Loud, hot, runs up the electric bill
[18:52] <brousch> Better to farm it out to millions of people's phones and browsers
[18:52] <Scary_Guy> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFJrcyBUMAE8eU0.jpg (bad language)
[18:53] <cmaloney> jrwren: Now that I know how to subscribe to medium feeds I've subscribed.
[18:54] <jrwren> cmaloney: :)