[00:04] <Boyette> does someone know where to find the VLC channel
[00:04] <Boyette> or there is none?
[00:04] <truexfan81> nvm guys, its an env variable issue
[00:04] <akik> Boyette: try #videolan
[00:04] <rangemonger> If i do a minimal install my compute stick doesnt have  wifi drivers but if i do a full install it does. How would i determine the needed package(s) ?
[00:05] <rangemonger> its a cherry trail btw
[00:05] <Boyette> offcourse
[00:05] <Boyette> how stupid of me
[00:05] <Boyette> thx akik
[00:06] <akik> rangemonger: you can see the kernel module that gets loaded for it with "lspci -vnnk"
[00:06] <rangemonger> akik, thanks
[00:08] <akik> rangemonger: but kernel modules come with the kernel usually so that might be installed. maybe it's missing the linux-firmware
[00:08] <rangemonger> hmm
[00:10] <rangemonger> akik, would this be the microcode package?
[00:10] <akik> rangemonger: there's a package called linux-firmware
[00:10] <rangemonger> oh ok
[00:12] <akik> rangemonger: you can configure the wifi with nmtui
[00:12] <rangemonger> ok
[00:12] <akik> rangemonger: you know when the system is able to use the wifi interface when you see it iwconfig
[00:13] <rangemonger> noted
[00:13] <Boyette> i have a questino
[00:13] <Boyette> question
[00:14] <Boyette> my ethernet controller is only operating in 100mbps mode but according to this
[00:14] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/kaMyGJxi
[00:14] <Boyette> it should be 1gbps?
[00:16] <akik> Boyette: you might be able to change it with ethtool. does your switch support gigabit?
[00:16] <DiecastMessiah> Boyette, guessing it maybe because your modem or router is only 100mb.
[00:17] <Boyette> well
[00:17] <Boyette> i had my internet connection upgrade today from 20mbps to 750mbps
[00:17] <Boyette> then i only got 100mbps
[00:17] <Boyette> so i called them
[00:18] <Boyette> they checked and said the gigabit port of the modem was connected to a 100mpbs port
[00:18] <Boyette> so it means my box is just 100mbps
[00:18] <DiecastMessiah> oh ok
[00:18] <Boyette> j@HQ:~$ lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:18] <Boyette> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 07)
[00:18] <Boyette> seems it should be gigabit right?
[00:21] <akik> Boyette: your realtek network interface is gigabit but is the other end where the cable goes to also gigabit?
[00:21] <Boyette> the other is gigabit
[00:22] <Boyette> its Draytek Vigor 2132FVN
[00:22] <akik> Boyette: try running "sudo ethtool eth0" (or whatever your interface name is) to see the details
[00:23] <DiecastMessiah> Boyette i think that only a 10/100mbit
[00:23] <Boyette> all lan ports on the vigor are gigabit ports
[00:23] <akik> DiecastMessiah: it says 4 x gbe so gigabit
[00:24] <Boyette> Settings for eth0:
[00:24] <Boyette> Cannot get device settings: No such device
[00:24] <Boyette> Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: No such device
[00:24] <Boyette> Cannot get message level: No such device
[00:24] <Boyette> Cannot get link status: No such device
[00:24] <Boyette> No data available
[00:25] <Boyette> .
[00:25] <Boyette> ok im back
[00:25] <Boyette> need to use pastebin
[00:25] <akik> Boyette: here's an example command you could try to change the speed: sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full
[00:25] <Boyette> eth0 doesnt exist
[00:26] <sophisthunter> should i make a pptp
[00:26] <akik> Boyette: see the interfaces with "ip link show"
[00:26] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/121fZVDH
[00:27] <akik> Boyette: it's the eno1 one
[00:27] <sfdebug> hi, i installed skype on ubuntu 14.04 but when i start it (skype), it crashs on a white screen and stay on it forever..... any idea how can i solve this problem?
[00:28] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/tg5Ljh2F
[00:28] <akik> Boyette: interesting :) no gigabit
[00:28] <Boyette> so lspci is lying to me?
[00:29] <akik> Boyette: look into the lspci -vnnk and search the [xxxx:xxxx] string
[00:30] <akik> Boyette: then you can search the xxxx:xxxx part and you'll get correct information about the device
[00:30] <DiecastMessiah> sfdebug, try to run skype from termial and see if there an error msgs.
[00:30] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, i tried it, but no messages...
[00:31] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/nSkQi62c
[00:31] <akik> Boyette: 103c:81fe <- that?
[00:32] <Boyette> 103c:81fe]
[00:32] <Boyette> yes
[00:32] <Boyette> thats it
[00:32] <Boyette> and what should that tell me
[00:33] <akik> h-p matched 103c but why does it say realtek
[00:33] <akik> ahh.. the subsystem line only says fast ethernet = 100Mbps
[00:34] <akik> kinda weird
[00:34] <Boyette> but first line is saying
[00:34] <Boyette> 10ec:8136
[00:35] <Boyette> its actually a very new model with ddr4
[00:35] <DiecastMessiah> sfdebug, maybe this will help https://askubuntu.com/questions/996034/skype-white-screen-problem
[00:35] <Boyette> but then just 100mbps ethernet?
[00:36] <akik> Boyette: check out the machine specs from the web
[00:36] <TJ-> Boyette: use "ethtool" to check what the phy layer can do
[00:36] <Boyette> i already posted ethtool output
[00:36] <akik> TJ-: it's here https://pastebin.com/tg5Ljh2F
[00:37] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, 8.9.0.1 isn't in that repository...
[00:37] <TJ-> Boyette: akik thanks, I only just looked in... so that confirms the PHY is 100Mb/s
[00:37] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, i'm reading a post where a guy told to download rpm package, decompress it and run from the directory...
[00:38] <Boyette> so hardware is limited to 100 ?
[00:38] <Boyette> but why is it saying gigabit adapter then?
[00:38] <DiecastMessiah> its just the name
[00:38] <Boyette> ok so i have to buy usb gigabit nic ?
[00:38] <akik> TJ-: here's the lspci https://pastebin.com/nSkQi62c look for 10ec:8136 says gigabit but the next line says h-p fast ethernet 103c:81fe
[00:40] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, the solution using the rpm package didn't work...
[00:41] <TJ-> akik: yes, but you can ignore those, they're just text fetched from the pciids database
[00:41] <Boyette> so hardware is limited to 100 ?
[00:41] <TJ-> akik: i'd trust the sub-system description since that's the OEM that is using the underlying device chipset
[00:42] <akik> Boyette: yes. to the store next :)
[00:42] <TJ-> Boyette: did you paste a dmesg ?
[00:42] <Boyette> dont think so
[00:42] <DiecastMessiah> sfdebug, i am a newbie here just tring to help out a bit,,,, but i guess did you pruge skype before install the package?
[00:43] <TJ-> Boyette: was wondering what the DMI id is, "dmesg | grep DMI:"
[00:43] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/JsmVnybd
[00:43] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, what pruge means?
[00:43] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, purge?
[00:44] <Boyette> TP-LINK UE300  = solution ?
[00:44] <DiecastMessiah> yes sorry purge, sudo apt-get purge skype
[00:45] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, yes...
[00:46] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, i'm trying older versions...
[00:46] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, that isn't the best solution but... lets try it...
[00:46] <DiecastMessiah> k well that taps my knowledge i have on the matter
[00:47] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, thanks anyway :-)
[00:47] <TJ-> Boyette: OK, with some intuitive decompiling of the model number 81FE, 81 == Realtek chipset series (r8169), and the FE == Fast Ethernet
[00:47] <akik> sfdebug: the 4.3 series (i think) of skype doesn't work anymore
[00:48] <Boyette> so
[00:48] <Boyette> TP-LINK UE300  = solution ?
[00:49] <sfdebug> akik, what should i do?
[00:49] <akik> sfdebug: which version are you trying to use?
[00:49] <akik> sfdebug: the current one is 8.15.0.4
[00:50] <Boyette> Fast Ethernet = 100 MBPS ?
[00:50] <sfdebug> i tried 8.16.76.1, 8.15.76.7, 8.15.76.2, but didn't work
[00:50] <DiecastMessiah> ask buntu saidto try 8.9.0.1
[00:51] <sfdebug> akik, i'll try a version before it so...
[00:51] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, there's no 8.9.0.1 here https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/
[00:51] <Crashbit> I've problemas with dpkg and apt
[00:51] <Crashbit> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3xx23TSTjd/
[00:51] <Crashbit> Anyone can help me?
[00:51] <akik> sfdebug: does it install with no dependency problems?
[00:52] <sfdebug> akik, i'm installing from GUI... but no problem showed there...
[00:55] <akik> sfdebug: i can't vouch for validity of this server but that 8.9.0.1 version is here http://mirror.cs.uchicago.edu/skype/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/
[00:56] <akik> sfdebug: microsoft seems to have deleted it
[00:58] <Boyette> thx guys
[00:58] <sophisthunter> are bongos spelled "bongoes" or "bongos"? (the percussion instrument)
[00:59] <sophisthunter> like, bob marley bongoes
[00:59] <DiecastMessiah> reading around the web ubuntu 14.xx doesn;t like after  8.9.0.1 and ubuntu 16.04 does the same white screen if you use  8.9.0.1 so i guess that way microsoft removed it
[00:59] <DiecastMessiah> why^
[01:00] <akik> does 14.04 have that hwe thingy?
[01:00] <sfdebug> akik, i'll try the 8.9.0.1 from this mirror you passed...
[01:00] <akik> lts enablement stack
[01:00] <akik> sfdebug: maybe you could test that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[01:01] <akik> sfdebug: although i have no idea about the "white screen" problem
[01:02] <sfdebug> akik, DiecastMessiah 8.9.0.1 worked fine... thanks... :-)
[01:02] <DiecastMessiah> sfdebug, glad it worked out
[01:02] <Bashing-om> Crashbit: Package manager suggest to try autoremove . Give it a shot ; sudo apt autoremove '.
[01:03] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: if I do a autoremove more packages fail with same error
[01:03] <akik> sfdebug: you'll get the newer version when you update to 16.04
[01:03] <WhatTheDilly> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/libmono-system-xaml4.0-cil/
[01:03] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: ceph-base, ceph.mon, ceph-osd
[01:03] <WhatTheDilly> Does that redirect people to "snapcraft" ?
[01:04] <Crashbit> all fails with the same error message
[01:05] <Bashing-om> !info Ceph-mds artful " Ceph-mds is being uninstalled (12.2.1-0ubuntu0.17.10.1)" //
[01:05] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GzGydtxM9s/
[01:05] <Neuthrone> Hey, how do you join ##hardware?
[01:05] <sophisthunter> ass
[01:09] <sfdebug> DiecastMessiah, akik thank you guys :-)
[01:13] <DiecastMessiah> sfdebug, welcome :)
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Crashbit: what results ' sudo apt purge ceph' ?
[01:19] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: remove ceph, but ceph-mds and other stay installed and broke dependences
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Crashbit: Humm ,., not make a lot if sense as ceph-mds depemds on ceph .. ' try ' sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install ' .
[01:22] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: yes, I reinstalled all, but same problem
[01:22] <Crashbit> Bashing-om: it seems its a problem with pre-removal script when try to stop ceph-mds daemon and it isn't loaded
[01:24] <Crashbit> it's strange I installed this package with ubuntu xenial with no problem, but in artful, appears that strange problem
[01:24] <tyamur> hi. how read recursive read with ls command?
[01:25] <tomcres> ls -R
[01:25] <Crashbit> i don't know if it is a problem with invoke.rc-d script
[01:25] <Crashbit> *invoke-rc.d
[01:25] <tyamur> thanks
[01:27] <DiecastMessiah> Crashbit, i am new but after removing did you try to apt auto remove and auto clean to get rid of broke packages ?
[01:27] <tyamur> ls -R . Ok. A how and ignore print . and .. file?
[01:28] <tomcres> tyamur, -A
[01:29] <tyamur> ls -R -A ?
[01:29] <tomcres> yes
[01:29] <tyamur> big thanks)
[01:29] <Crashbit> DiecastMessiah: yes, I try autoremove, and clean, and clean all and reinstall, all times same error
[01:30] <Crashbit> same error when I try to remove packages ceph-mds ceph-mgr and others
[01:31] <Crashbit> I try to use dpkg -P ceph-mds and says same error
[01:31] <libben> How can I save renamed interfaces ?
[01:31] <libben> I did ip link set enps40 name eth1
[01:31] <libben> and so on
[01:31] <libben> after reboot they are all back to their usual names
[01:35] <Crashbit> DiecastMessiah and Bashing-om : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cCF9tMnGmk/
[01:35] <DiecastMessiah> No idea what to say other than maybe try from the recovery termial.... but again I don't much i am just learning.. i should just keep my fingers shut lol
[01:38] <Bashing-om> Crashbit: Same here too ., I just do not know .
[01:38] <Crashbit> Bashing-om, DiecastMessiah : thx ;þ
[01:40] <DiecastMessiah> Crashbit, i forget the commands to find process id,, but was thinking if ya find that maybe you could do a kill all command
[01:43] <DiecastMessiah> Crashbit, maybe this will help you http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/operating/
[01:43] <DiecastMessiah> there is something about stopping the service
[01:49] <DiecastMessiah> Crashbit, sudo systemctl stop ceph\*.service ceph\*.target says this will stop all daemons
[01:50] <Draconiator> question...which file do I run after downloading a tarball and extracting it?  still new at Linux...no .exe files here lol
[01:52] <DiecastMessiah> Draconiator, you have to configure and compaile if it a program you want to install... but you shouldn;t try that.. unless you know everything there is to know about linux and what you are doing
[01:53] <DiecastMessiah> What software are you tring to get installed
[01:54] <Draconiator> Oops wrong button heh, anyway it's Discord.
[01:56] <DiecastMessiah> Draconiator, ok i looking around to see if there is a package for discord
[01:57] <cholby69> I once had a boyfriend
[01:57] <cholby69> named... Ubuntu
[01:57] <cholby69> he used to "play the bongos"
[01:58] <cholby69> on my ass
[01:58] <DiecastMessiah> Draconiator you can install from Ubuntu software program
[02:00] <Draconiator> Yeah I found one.
[02:03] <DiecastMessiah> A package like discord.deb or discord.tar ?
[02:09] <hoodedice> postfix issues: echo "test mail" | mail -s "testing testing" root
[02:10] <hoodedice> where root is set to my personal email @gmail.com
[02:10] <hoodedice> but logs show this: Name service error for name=ubuntu-dropocean-hoodedice type=A: Host not found)
[02:10] <hoodedice> where "ubuntu-dropocean-hoodedice" is the hostname of my VPS, from where the mail is being sent
[02:11] <hoodedice> root is set to my personal email in /etc/aliases, then I ran postalias on that
[02:13] <kirito> Hi i am having a problem with my hp with unbuntu mate amd driver can anyone help me get the drivers to work
[02:15] <kirito> can anyone please tell me what to do cause its legging like fuck and cant stand it
[02:22] <DiecastMessiah> kirito, https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/how-to-install-graphics-card-drivers-in-ubuntu/3228
[02:23] <kirito> damm i also forget to say this its a hp ts 15 model
[02:27] <DiecastMessiah> anything else like 15-r207tu ??
[02:28] <DiecastMessiah> because alot of models seem to have just intel HD chips
[02:37] <DiecastMessiah> kirito, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver .. says its supported .. you card is  Kabini [Radeon HD 8400]
[02:38] <kirito> thanks take a look at it
[02:39] <DiecastMessiah> well not supported on 12.04 but i am guess you are using higher than that anyway
[02:57] <Cesium> Hey everyone
[02:58] <u0_a115> anyone online??
[02:58] <Cesium> whats up u0
[02:58] <u0_a115> my 1st irc chat
[02:58] <Cesium> welcome :)
[02:58] <u0_a115> and its pretty good
[02:59] <u0_a115> except the gui part
[03:00] <u0_a115> how to delete a message??
[03:00] <krytarik> You can't! :(
[03:00] <mutante> u0_a115: no way once you sent it. it's like sending an email
[03:00] <u0_a115> sad
[03:01] <mutante> well, i dont want to give you remote access to delete stuff from my computer :)
[03:01] <mutante> and it's already here, heh
[03:01] <u0_a115> anyway to mention a user??
[03:01] <mutante> u0_a115: like this
[03:01] <mutante> nickname:
[03:01] <mutante> that highlights it for me in my client
[03:02] <u0_a115> mutante: just curious
[03:02] <mutante> u0_a115: of course, that's a good thing
[03:03] <u0_a115> anyone used plasama 5.12 on kubuntu??
[03:15] <Crashbit> hi! finally i solve my problem editting ceph-mds.prerm at /var/lib/dpkg/info and comment line to try to stop ceph-mds daemon
[03:16] <Crashbit> I do that in all packages generate problem and finally I can remove all ceph packets
[03:20] <Bashing-om> !yay | Crashbit
[04:23] <izombie> Hey all!
[04:23] <rangemonger> yo
[04:24] <izombie> server installation is failing at "setup and install software"
[04:24] <izombie> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/664423
[04:24] <izombie> how can I see what's the cause?
[04:48] <timypcr> ..
[04:48] <rangemonger> crap, its still only seeing loopback
[04:51] <foodSurprise> can anyone help me get /server-status working in ubuntu apache?
[05:02] <timypcr> foodSurprise whats going on with server-status? whats not working and can you share /etc/apache2/mods-available/status.conf ?
[05:04] <timypcr> does it look like this https://gist.github.com/timypcr/e9e823c87040c743cd00d72e38d34757 FoodSurprise ?
[05:07] <foodSurprise> timypcr: https://pastebin.com/raw/zHp9RvsR
[05:08] <foodSurprise> timypcr: I'm going to have to change it to inclde my IP right
[05:11] <foodSurprise> timypcr: so I DO need to change this?
[05:11] <foodSurprise> here?
[05:14] <rangemonger> im still having trouble, if i install a standard ubuntu iso, my wifi works, if i do a minimal install, the wireless nic doesnt show up, Intel Stone Peak AC 3165
[05:15] <rangemonger> which package would i need?
[05:19] <badboyjer> sup
[05:39] <fishcooker> what's the virtual keyboard for lenovo with fn+f5... ?
[06:12] <Talkless> Test from ubuntu touch
[06:15] <shanky> hi
[06:15] <EriC^^> hello
[06:16] <shanky> ubuntu netwrking is not working after wakeup from suspend when start netwrk using systcall then terminal get hanged up and chromium also hangup
[06:16] <shanky> any help
[06:16] <shanky> EriC^^: do u have any soln?
[06:17] <shanky> rauno: any help
[06:17] <EriC^^> give it a few mins
[06:17] <EriC^^> !patience
[06:17] <shanky> EriC^^: i wait for 10-15 minutes :(
[06:18] <EriC^^> they'll come around, it's pretty early in most parts of europe rn
[06:23] <fishcooker> hello talkless on which device the touch do you have?
[06:24] <krytarik> (They are gone already.)
[06:25] <Colombo1> hi
[06:25] <Colombo1> anyone knows how to reset all sound setting?
[06:25] <Colombo1> even one in files
[06:26] <Colombo1> I am having problems with HDMI sound, even on 4.15 kernel
[06:26] <Colombo1> so after playing with stuff, I am thinking if I didn't set something that stayed there and now is breaking stuff.
[06:42] <Haris> hello all
[06:42] <PhilM> Hi
[06:42] <Colombo1> ah, found an error. Seems that I can have only one thing in sound output. Anyone know what did I set up?
[06:43] <Haris> why doesn't iptables/netfilter work on 14.04 .. as it does on centos 7 ?
[06:43] <Haris> I applies same state-ful rules. I lost ssh access. had to disturb other guys for console access
[06:43] <Haris> %s/applies/applied/
[06:47] <Haris> I added stateful rule in filter/INPUT tbl to send all ssh related traffic to filter/SSH. there I have stateful rules for new connections from multiple IP ranges
[06:47] <Haris> added a DROP all after those. my ssh connection should have been accepted
[06:47] <Haris> how does iptables work on Ubuntu ?
[06:48] <Haris> I'm also watching the need to manually add the RETURN statement at the end of each defined tbl in iptables
[06:48] <Haris> this is not needed on centos. it works on auto
[06:48] <Haris> this is for 14.04
[06:49] <Haris> I think iptables/netfilter on Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't consider state-ful sense ?
[06:50] <Haris> I can say this, because even after my login, my stateful rule is catching my regular ssh traffic packets
[06:50] <Haris> which should have been already accepted by the default rule for established,related state traffic in filter/INPUT
[06:50] <sophisthunter> why do VPNs have separate IP addresses for entry and exit?
[06:51] <Haris> sophisthunter: #networking
[06:51] <Haris> is iptables stateful on 14.04 ?
[06:56] <sophisthunter> spotify:album:35SK2rNqBdbIykejfFs9rA
[06:59] <neildugan> how do I control the permissions of the /run directory?
[07:08] <michael2> hi does anyone know I can identify my ssh agent running in ubuntu 16.04 desktop?
[07:09] <jerichowasahoax> michael2: see if "pgrep ssh-agent" finds anything
[07:09] <sophisthunter> is here a michael1
[07:09] <sophisthunter> there
[07:09] <sophisthunter> is there a michael1
[07:10] <michael2> jerichowasahoax: no, pgrep ssh doesn't show anything, but $SSH_AUTH_SOCK env var is set and ssh-add -l shows keys - so it looks like its running
[07:11] <jerichowasahoax> michael2: that seems very odd to me but it works so i'm not going to question it :V
[07:11] <michael2> sophisthunter: there was another user that claimed they were michael1 - but that wasn't the nick they were using
[07:12] <neildugan> how do I control the permissions of the /run directory?  chmod isn't permanent across reboots.
[07:12] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: why are you changing the permissions of /run
[07:13] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: because usually changing those permissions is the wrong way of going about things and there's a better way to fix your problem, whatever that might be
[07:15] <vistefan> Hi! How do I change default keyboard layout at system startup? I want it to be English after reboot.
[07:18] <neildugan> jerichowasahoax, I want to put a pid file in it
[07:18] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: as your user?
[07:18] <neildugan> jerichowasahoax, yes
[07:19] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: you could probably chuck it in /run/user/1000 with out of the box permissions
[07:19] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: assuming your UID is 1000
[07:19] <jerichowasahoax> pulseaudio keeps stuff there, and it runs as your user
[07:20] <michael2> jerichowasahoax: thats the dir my SSH_AGENT_SOCK points to -
[07:20] <Haris> why aren't my stateful iptables rules working on 14.04 ?
[07:20] <neildugan> jerichowasahoax, do you know the thinking behind making the /run so restrictive?  it doesn't make any sense to me
[07:21] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: mostly so users can't monkey around with other users files in /run, or at least that's my best guess
[07:23] <ducasse> michael2: you might be using the gnome keyring agent instead of ssh-agent
[07:23] <michael2> ducasse: yes, i think you're right! do you know how i find that process?
[07:23] <neildugan> jerichowasahoax, I think I can make that work, but I am now going to have to see about recoding my script to work with the new locations.
[07:24] <ducasse> michael2: 'ps ax | grep agent'?
[07:24] <jerichowasahoax> neildugan: you could probably get sed to do the legwork
[07:25] <neildugan> jerichowasahoax, oh no!  I have multiple user using the same script, and it gets complicated.
[07:25] <michael2> ducasse:  i get this: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1   do you think thats the process?
[07:26] <Natrick> I'm looking for a `netconfig` binary required by an OpenVPN script `client.up` or a replacement which can not permanently modify /etc/resolv.conf. Is there something like that?
[07:26] <jerichowasahoax> i mean i guess the gnome keyring could be acting like an ssh agent?
[07:26] <ducasse> michael2: no, that's for polkit. is that the only hit?
[07:26] <jerichowasahoax> or like, kwallet or something, i think those programs can do that
[07:27] <ducasse> they do, jerichowasahoax - that's what we're looking for now
[07:28] <michael2> ducasse: my gpg-agent matches also - but that can't be holding my ssh keys could it?
[07:28] <ducasse> michael2: yes, it could
[07:29] <ducasse> michael2: i use it myself, to authenticate ssh with gpg key on a yubikey
[07:30] <michael2> ducasse: if I was could i test i by killing the gpg-agent, then try to start a ssh connection - if I get prompted to enter password - then that would confirm that gpg-agent is holding my ssh key right?
[07:31] <ducasse> michael2: yes
[07:33] <michael2> ducasse: I kill my gpg-agent - and it froze a current ssh session - and now - instead of asking me for my password when I try to start a ssh connection - ssh command just locks up?
[07:34] <jerichowasahoax> cause it's still trying to use that run socket
[07:34] <jerichowasahoax> but the agent disappeared all of a sudden
[07:34] <jerichowasahoax> starting a new agent should fix the whole thing again
[07:35] <ducasse> michael2: 'eval $(gpg-agent --daemon)'
[07:35] <michael2> jerichowasahoax: thanks - that sounds right
[07:36] <michael2> ducasse: will that command start a daemon which is available to my entire system - and not just the shell/terminal which started it? I guess thats what the daemon part does?
[07:37] <ducasse> michael2: yes
[07:39] <michael2> ducasse: thanks. in regard to the yubikey - do you use an actual gpg key - for ssh - in other words do you place a copy of your public in the authorized-keys directory on the remote server?
[07:40] <michael2> i mean your GPG public key in the remotes authorized_keys?
[07:40] <ducasse> michael2: yes, a gpg authentication key
[07:41] <michael2> is that different from a regular gpg key - or "authentication" key just a convention  you use to organise your keys?
[07:42] <ducasse> michael2: the gpg key has three subkeys - a signing key, an encryption key and an authentication key
[07:44] <michael2> I see. so basically the gpg key you would use for general gpg operations - e.g uploading to key servers etc. can also be re-used for ssh - thats pretty cool
[07:45] <michael2>  using gpg keys for ssh and yubikey is obviously a custom setup - Im just running pretty much standard - off the shelf ubuntu setup - is it normal that gpg-agent takes care of ssh keys?
[07:46] <ducasse> i think so, but afaik it can't handle ed25519, for example. at least that used to be the case
[07:51] <michael2> ducasse: I ran the command: eval gpg-agent --daemon    and its up and running now, thanks!
[07:52] <ducasse> michael2: np
[08:13] <donofrio> if I want to clone packages installed on 16.04 server cloud image to a 18.04 server cloud image would I be able to diff the apt-? or just use apt-clone? from 16.04 to 18.04?
[08:17] <frechdachs69> Q: is anyone using lightdm with Xvnc (tightvncserver) enabled? currently when trying to login using tightvnc client the lightdm crashes
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> frechdachs69: be carefull with vnc right, its a security risk.. try vnc over ssh or more secure remote tools?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | frechdachs69
[08:20] <ducasse> frechdachs69: have you tried another client?
[08:22] <frechdachs69> ducasse: not yet; I'm not sure whether the default 'Xvnc' command inside the '[VNCServer]' section is enough or whether something else has to be configured to avoid that lightdm crash
[08:24] <ducasse> frechdachs69: try just running it from a terminal to see?
[08:50] <cuono> ubuntu sucks
[08:50] <cuono> i like debian
[08:50] <cuono> ubuntu is debian derivative
[08:50] <cuono> why not just be debian
[08:50] <cuono> ??
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> cuono: only ubuntu support here please
[08:50] <cuono> how do i downgrade ubuntu to debian?
[08:50] <cuono> i mean upgrade
[08:51] <cuono> i have a support question about the shell
[08:51] <cuono> i heard there is a spyware on it
[08:51] <cuono> how do i uninstall the spyware?
[08:52] <cuono> nvm i'll just install debian
[08:52] <cuono> ubuntu is just evil
[08:58] <michael2> does anyone know why the command: 'pgrep indicator-datetime-service', returns no results, but: 'pgrep -f indicator-datetime-service' matches the service?
[09:00] <Ben64> -f, --full              The pattern is normally only matched against the  process  name.              When -f is set, the full command line is used.
[09:03] <michael2> Ben64: but in this case the process name is: "indicator-datetime-service" and shouldn't any pattern such as: grep 'date' or grep 'service'  all match?
[09:04] <michael2> sorry I mean: pgrep 'date', pgrep 'service'
[09:06] <jink> michael2: pgrep -l .   vs   pgrep -a .   might give you a hint?
[09:07] <akik> michael2: it seems to be a literal search that pgrep does by default
[09:07] <akik> michael2: if your search string is just a part of the command, you need to use -f
[09:10] <akik> michael2: scratch that. i don't know the logic when i test it :P
[09:11] <akik> e.g. i have /usr/bin/perl and /usr/sbin/cupsd. pgrep finds cupsd but not perl without -f
[09:11] <michael2> akik: yeah, my testing shows that for example: pgrep gnome   will match gnome-keyring-daemon
[09:13] <akik> maybe it's because of this: "The process name used for matching is limited to the 15 characters present in the  out‐
[09:13] <akik>        put  of  /proc/pid/stat."
[09:14] <michael2> so is that like /proc/1823/stat ?
[09:14] <jink> Yes.
[09:15] <jink> (Assuming 1823 is the result of pgrep -f indicator-datetime-service)
[09:16] <jink> And -f is probably something like /proc/1823/cmdline
[09:16] <michael2> akik: wow - that was a great find - I think you are correct
[09:17] <gooool4> Hello
[09:17] <michael2> jeez - its like the creator of pgrep intentionally made it hard to use
[09:17] <akik> michael2: i see that in my perl case the stat doesn't contain perl at all
[09:17] <jink> They probably made it easy to program.  When you know this, it's just a wrapper around "grep whatever /proc/*/stat"
[09:18] <jink> I have a python script running.  The same applies.  The first part of the cmdline is python3, but it doesn't find it with that name.
[09:18] <akik> so many other things have been modernized. maybe it's time for pgrep now :)
[09:20] <ducasse> systemd-pgrep? ;)
[09:20]  * jink sets ducasse on fire.
[09:21] <jerichowasahoax> ducasse: i think that thought gave me an ulcer
[09:26] <Boyette> how come i dont have a green status here?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !details | Boyette
[09:27] <Boyette> like only Drone and Sigyn have a green status at the right side
[09:27] <Boyette> like they are the only active onces
[09:28] <shanky> hi
[09:28] <akik> Boyette: they seem to be the only ones with the channel operator status
[09:28] <shanky> ubuntu netwrking is not working after wakeup from suspend when start netwrk using systcall then terminal get hanged up and chromium also hangup
[09:29] <Boyette> ah thats why
[09:29] <akik> Boyette: and i think they are both bots
[09:29] <Boyette> understand now
[09:29] <Boyette> normal users never get that status
[09:30] <shanky> any help?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> shanky: details please, ubuntu version, kernel version, network-manager version, card chipset, driver loaded?
[09:32] <shanky> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16.04 xenial
[09:33] <shanky> lotuspsychje: i am not having that laptop now may be i can send details later. any help for now is appreciated
[09:33] <sophisthunter> what is time?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !ntp | sophisthunter
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> shanky: its reccomend to see what happens in your logs, when wakeup hard to tell without details
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> shanky: could be acpi or driver issue?
[09:39] <netochka> how can i switch between Left-to-right and Right-to-left in libreoffice? It seems that Ctrl+Shift doesn' work
[09:40] <Boyette> you have libreoffice 6 ?
[09:41] <netochka> 5
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: i think there's a libreoffice snap for ubuntu
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: if you need latest
[09:42] <netochka> snap, meaning the latest version?
[09:42] <Boyette> i was replying to netochka
[09:42] <cuono> what is say goes see
[09:42] <cuono> yeah what he says goes see
[09:42] <cuono> now listen up
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> cuono: no trolling here please
[09:43] <cuono> there's a troll around here and we're gonna rob a bank see
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !ops | cuono trolling
[09:44] <cuono> lotuspsychje r u interested in zen
[09:44] <cuono> and samurai champloo?
[09:44] <netochka> I installed ubuntu and am using xfce desktop. in both ubuntu and xfce everything in browsers looks so small. already tried the tweak. and also the browser settings, unchecked the option that let's websites to choose their font, still the same.
[09:44] <cuono> i like samurai champloo
[09:44] <cuono> netochka do yourself a favor
[09:44] <cuono> and install debian
[09:44] <cuono> with debian there are no such problems
[09:45] <DalekSec> cuono: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you don't have an Ubuntu support question please leave.
[09:45] <netochka> i was led to believe by articles that ubuntu is more suitable for beginners
[09:45] <cuono> i am supporting
[09:45] <cuono> netochka that is not true
[09:45] <ducasse> netochka: he is trolling, just ignore
[09:45] <netochka> ok
[09:47] <cuono> ubuntu is basically a corporate distro
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> DalekSec: more bad news :p
[09:47] <cuono> they put money in to write articles and convince it is beginner
[09:47] <cuono> but it is basically debian with a shell ontop
[09:48] <cuono> and it contains spyware which reports to amazon what you write and which programs you launch
[09:50] <netochka> well i've tried multiple distros lately. i will also give debian a "try"
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> netochka: we reccomend ubuntu here
[09:52] <jink> Hmmm, I wonder why...
[09:53] <netochka> ubuntu was very laggy for me so i searched and installed xfce. it's very smooth but i still have problem with the font size in browsers. and also there is no night mode.
[09:53] <jink> I recommend: "use whatever works for you, and use the appropriate channels for support."
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> jink: whatever fits more in ##linux
[09:54] <jink> lotuspsychje: "whatever" could be Windows, for all I care.
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> jink: in #ubuntu we embrace new users to use ubuntu
[09:55] <jink> "duh"
[09:55] <akik> netochka: the font size problem is only with the browser, nowhere else?
[09:56] <netochka> yes only with the browser. i tried fixing it with the tweak but it only affects the windows and bars etc, doesn help the browser thing. everything is so small and i always have to use ctrl-scroll in every new tab i open
[09:56] <akik> netochka: did you go into the preferences to adjust the font sizes?
[09:57] <akik> netochka: i presume it's firefox you're using
[09:57] <DalekSec> You'll want the Appearance settings from the settings manager, specifically the font tab.
[09:57] <netochka> yes and yes. i also tried google. and it is also the same on torbrowser
[09:58] <netochka> and i also tried the broswer setting. unchecking the option that allows websites to use their own font
[09:58] <netochka> and increasing the default font size
[09:58] <netochka> but for example, it wouldnt change the search results in google
[09:58] <netochka> or duckduckgo for that matter
[10:00] <netochka> it is a 14" laptop im using 1920*1080 scr res, but still. too small
[10:01] <akik> netochka: try if this page helps with that https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147570
[10:01] <akik> netochka: it lists two addons that seem to do what you want
[10:02] <akik> doh. one is removed and the second one doesn't work with firefox 58
[10:03] <akik> netochka: but it also lists a about:config entry "layout.css.devPixelsPerPx"
[10:04] <akik> netochka: that'll adjust both the menus and the content area
[10:04] <netochka> ty i will give it a shot
[10:06] <akik> netochka: it seems to work with firefox 58
[10:08] <netochka> got it. mine is 58.01
[10:15] <netochka> akik tyvm. it worked on firefox. without trying the addons
[10:16] <akik> netochka: and the menus didn't become too big?
[10:17] <Guest70333> why does after some use linux start lagging
[10:17] <netochka> not really. i changed it from -1.0 to 1.2 and it looks fine. now i have to figure out what to do with chrome or torbrowser as i work with them the most
[10:19] <netochka> akik changing it to 1.2 made both the fonts and the address bar readable
[10:20] <yosefrow> ggg
[10:22] <heap_> hi, something is generating files as initrd.img-4.4.0-24-generic in my /boot and then i have no space left on /boot partition
[10:22] <heap_> why is that?
[10:22] <heap_> why old images are generated i run completely other version of kernel
[10:23] <heap_> why boot partition was created as 472MB if its not possible to handle images
[10:23] <heap_> arght
[10:23] <heap_> seems like ubuntu is windows 15
[10:24] <netochka> akik do you also a way to have night-mode in xfce? like the one in unity (i believe?)
[10:24] <netochka> know*
[10:24] <akik> heap_: if your older kernels are not removed automatically, it'll create this problem if the space in /boot fills up
[10:25] <heap_> but why they are not removed automatically...
[10:25] <akik> heap_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[10:25] <jink> Afaik, you have to remove them yourself.  I tend to do :  apt-get --purge autoremove
[10:25] <akik> heap_: "You can remove them manually, or configure unattended-upgrades to do it automatically."
[10:25] <heap_> ok
[10:25] <heap_> thx
[10:26] <akik> netochka: i use my laptop's brightness controls for the night mode :)
[10:26] <kalo97> any distro dont do this automatically
[10:26] <netochka> :D
[10:27] <netochka> yea i do the same, but in unity the screen seems to add some extra yellowish layer on the screen, regardless of the brightness
[10:27] <netochka> definitely better for reading
[10:27] <jink> And they shouldn't, probably.  Let's say your new kernel has a bug for your specific hardware.  Would be very hard to go back when the previous kernel has been purged.
[10:27] <akik> netochka: i don't like those apps because they change the colour scheme
[10:28] <netochka> i see, but the one is built in feature
[10:28] <netochka> but i get your point
[10:28] <netochka> the one in unity*
[10:28] <akik> netochka: there seems to be a software package called redshift for that
[10:29] <kalo97> It's better to ensure the /boot have enough space.
[10:29] <netochka> yea i tried that but it didnt work in xfce or maybe i did it wrong
[10:49] <heap_> hi, how can i found out on which partition i should install grub
[10:49] <heap_> as part of the dist-ugprade i got context menu where i have to select partition for a grub
[10:51] <heap_> is it possible it goes to dev/dm-0 or /dev/dm-1 dev?
[10:52] <netochka> anyone knows any good software that could installed both on linux and android so you could transfer data by wifi and not by cable
[10:52] <netochka> could be*
[10:52] <tmm88> either you have a command that does that
[10:52] <tmm88> in the apt-get repository
[10:52] <tmm88> or there is a framework/ide that provides that
[10:52] <tmm88> i know that you have at least two commands
[10:53] <tmm88> to transfer data between gnu/unix/linux distros
[10:53] <tmm88> but i am not sure if there is something specific for wifi
[10:53] <tmm88> there should be
[10:53] <tmm88> and it should be feasible
[10:53] <heap_> ?
[10:53] <tmm88> if it's not there is also a chance for reverse engineer
[10:54] <tmm88> sudo apt install android-file-transfer
[10:55] <tmm88> well anyway long time no using these kinds of things
[10:56] <electriX> Anyone here use Digital Ocean droplets?
[11:19] <nbl1> Hello world! o/
[11:19] <nbl1> Did anyone has succed to install ubuntu on lastet macbook pro ?
[11:22] <sasho199> Hello everyone! I am looking for a tutorial about setting acpi on ubuntu so the hardware sees it as windows. My ubuntu - new install, cant boot unless I use acpi=off. I would appreciate if someone knows how to solve this!
[11:22] <cordac> sasho199: nvidia?
[11:23] <sasho199> cordac: Video card is NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 950m
[11:23] <cordac> startup in compability mode and choose nvidia gfx drivers
[11:24] <cordac> instead of noveau, or whatever it is linux uses
[11:25] <sasho199> cordac: I'm new to linux, I'm trying to get it going right so I can learn. How do I startup in compatibility mode?
[11:26] <cordac> https://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu/
[11:26] <cordac> try that
[11:26] <cordac> i use nomodeset xforcevesa
[11:27] <sasho199> cordac: can you explain what exactly it does?
[11:27] <cordac> im new aswell.. so if anyone see me lieing, its innocent!
[11:27] <hateball> nomodeset and acpi=off do entirely different things
[11:28] <hateball> nomodeset is used for newer nvidia cards where nouveau does not yet work, until you can install the nvidia blob
[11:28] <cordac> its sets your gfx to basic crap.. but that gets you going. in linux, go to settings/drivers and change your drivers to nvidias
[11:28] <cordac> thanks hateball
[11:28] <hateball> as for acpi, that can be manipulated due to bios firmware bugs and what not, preventing shutdowns or whatever
[11:29] <hateball> so it's good to know what the real issue is before trying to solve it :)
[11:29] <Faults> Usually I need to set "nomodeset" on first boot after fresh Ubuntu install. When I have installed Proprietary Nvidia drivers I don't need that anymore and everything works as intended. I have 1050 Ti/Intel Optimus Nvidia.
[11:30] <sasho199> hateball, cordac: I was previously in this chat and TJ- sent me a link about configuring the ACPI to see ubuntu as linux. What his explanation was: Some ACPI features are locked if the hardware does not recognize the OS as windows, so he sets linux to masqarade as windows in front of the ACPI.
[11:30] <hateball> sasho199: Sure, but I assume there's a problem you're trying to solve by doing this?
[11:30] <cordac> ive installed ubuntu and mint.. the acpi stuff didnt do it for me
[11:30] <Neo4> I had tried run gparter and got this error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kWMKpWkjHK/
[11:31] <Neo4> can't run gparter
[11:31] <electriX> Any advice if I have a 12.04 Ubuntu install and host issued a kernel warning on me for Meltdown/Spectre yesterday... don't believe there's a patch for my version. Full server upgrade time on this?
[11:31] <sasho199> hateball: My problems are that it freezes and I have to hold the power button to shut if off. I freezes in the ubuntu loading screen in the beginning.
[11:31] <Neo4> this error http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518694290.png
[11:32] <hateball> sasho199: yeah, that sounds like it is acpi related
[11:32] <cordac> ohh.. my bad then.. sorry sasho199
[11:32] <sasho199> hateball: I found an entry in askubuntu, It boots when I add acpi=off after that one line.
[11:33] <hateball> sasho199: so is your question how you make that setting permanent?
[11:33] <nbl1> Did anyone has succed to install ubuntu on lastet macbook pro ?
[11:33] <sasho199> hateball: Mainly I am asking on what is the solution, is there a better one? I want to run it properly because it seems that when I add that line, some stuff does not work properly.
[11:34] <hateball> sasho199: yes various powersaving things wont likely work, cpu states etc
[11:34] <hateball> sasho199: first I'd check if you have any BIOS updates available, that might fix it
[11:35] <anddam> hello
[11:35] <kalo> hello!
[11:36] <sasho199> hateball: I am kind confused about that, because I recently ran a BIOS update - now its 302. But I am not sure how that relates to UEFI. I installed Ubuntu in UEFI mode, my windows previously ran in BIOS compatibility mode and I had to remove it to install ubuntu.
[11:36] <anddam> I'm on Xenial, using firefox from default repository. I installed awesome and while using it I have a "Debian menu" with Chromium in the Network submenu, but no firefox. I ran update-menus to no avail
[11:36] <anddam> should the packaged awesome work with it out-of-the-box?
[11:38] <hateball> sasho199: you should have been able to dualboot both legacy and uefi, and even reinstall the bootloaders for each OS after switching... but that's something else
[11:38] <hateball> sasho199: so you are saying you have the latest available bios firmware installed then?
[11:39] <sasho199> hateball: Yes. I thought that new computers are made with UEFI and BIOS is the older one. Is that not the case?
[11:39] <Boyette> no
[11:40] <Boyette> uefi is still bios
[11:40] <Boyette> uefi is just a skin
[11:40] <hateball> legacy BIOS does not support UEFI boot features however
[11:40] <anddam> actually it is
[11:40] <anddam> UEFI is a firmware, BIOS is a firmware
[11:41] <hateball> sasho199: anyhow! there are some acpi_osi options I guess you could try
[11:41] <hateball> sasho199: do you have a model for this laptop (if it is one?) or your motherboard? that makes it easier finding specific solution
[11:42] <sasho199> hateball: I don't know what you mean by "model". Probably that means that I don't have one.
[11:42] <sasho199> hateball: Do you mean if I know what model the laptop is?
[11:43] <hateball> sasho199: Yes
[11:43] <Boyette> sudo dmidecode | grep 'SKU Number' | head -1
[11:43] <hateball> sasho199: "sudo dmidecode" will tell you
[11:43] <hateball> there you go :p
[11:44] <cart_man> How do I shutdown the GUI on UBUNTU MATE?
[11:45] <Boyette> you dont cartman because you choose mate for the gui
[11:45] <sasho199> hateball: It's ASUS X550VX according to linux, but on the laptop there is a sticker that says K550V
[11:46] <hateball> sasho199: if you havent already, you could try booting with acpi_osi=Linux
[11:46] <hateball> see if that magically makes it behave
[11:46] <sasho199> hateball: I'll try it
[11:47] <hateball> sasho199: also what version of ubuntu is this? there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1672563 which suggests it should be fixed in kernel 4.11
[11:48] <cart_man> Boyette Ok but sure there is way like LIGHTDM shutdownetc
[11:48] <cart_man> I need to try a performance test
[11:48] <hateball> sasho199: actually I see now that it probably isnt fixed by that...
[11:49] <akik> cart_man: you can stop lightdm and the gui stops
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:49] <akik> cart_man: it's either "sudo service lightdm stop" or "sudo systemctl stop lightdm"
[11:49] <cart_man> akik Thanks allot !
[11:50] <cart_man> service one workde
[11:54] <sasho199> hateball: I tried adding acpi_osi=Linux after the line that contains quiet splash, but it froze. Also sometimes it I manage to turn off the computer normally, when I start it next time I hold Shift and it does not go to the selection(GRUB) and even more weird it runs when that happens. To me that makes 0 sense.
[11:55] <hateball> sasho199: sounds like a buggy bios to me
[11:56] <qswz> guys, how much swap needed for 8 or 16G RAM?
[11:56] <sasho199> hateball: What can I do about that?
[11:56] <hateball> sasho199: could you try "acpi_osi=!!" also?
[11:56] <hateball> qswz: depends if you want to hibernate or not
[11:56] <sasho199> hateball: without the quotations right?
[11:56] <hateball> sasho199: yea
[11:57] <qswz> hateball: not much
[11:57] <hateball> sasho199: as for what you can do... report bugs I guess
[11:57] <qswz> it's a laptop
[11:57] <qswz> for work/development
[11:57] <sasho199> hateball: And about the BIOS being buggy, anything that can be done?
[11:57] <akik> sasho199: you should try the newest value for "Windows" you get with: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[11:58] <qswz> I mean, should I go roughly for like 4G swap, or more like 8G or 16G
[11:58] <akik> sasho199: that is for acpi_osi=
[11:58] <hateball> sasho199: akik has a good suggestion
[11:58] <qswz> I have a 256G SSD
[11:58] <hateball> qswz: if you have 8GB RAM, and you intend to hibernate it, you need 8GB swap
[11:58] <hateball> if you never intend to hibernate, you need 0bytes of swap
[11:59] <akik> sasho199: this is TJ-'s page about it http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[11:59] <qswz> hateball: ok
[11:59] <hateball> (that said it can be nice with swap to avoid crashing)
[11:59] <qswz> thanks
[11:59] <hateball> if you run out of RAM that is
[11:59] <qswz> do you guys often hibernate?
[11:59] <qswz> I mean I just turn my laptop off
[11:59] <qswz> when I'm done
[12:00] <sasho199> akik: Thats the tutorial I was looking for, thanks. Is it the same as your suggestion?
[12:00] <DiecastMessiah> don;t ya need some swap .
[12:00] <akik> sasho199: yes mostly but much better documented :)
[12:00] <akik> sasho199: for example i don't know what this does: acpi_osi=!
[12:01] <hateball> akik: this page tells you http://redsymbol.net/linux-kernel-boot-parameters/
[12:02] <akik> hateball: thanks. but i don't understand why it isn't enough to set acpi_osi= just once
[12:02] <hateball> Not like I understand this sorcery either
[12:03] <akik> hateball: ok well there's lots of text for that option
[12:03] <hateball> yes
[12:03] <qswz> hatenuts
[12:03] <hateball> well I suppose you can specify to the kernel *exactly* what to try to use
[12:04] <qswz> I hope 250G SSD won't be too short
[12:04] <hateball> that's the point of removing support for "Linux" acpi functions and instead adding Windows SoAndSo I guess
[12:04] <nbl1> Did anyone has succed to install ubuntu on lastet macbook pro ?
[12:05] <qswz> hehe, buying a mac and installing lubuntu
[12:05] <qswz> just get a normal brand, 2s cheaper
[12:05] <sasho199> akik: How can I run the script I donwloaded?
[12:06] <qswz> ./ it
[12:06] <qswz> chmod it possibly
[12:07] <BeforeClick> they finally released a skype version that does vieeo as well as chat and audio!
[12:08] <qswz> lol skype
[12:08] <qswz> always been shitty on linux
[12:08] <BeforeClick> well looking better now
[12:09] <BeforeClick> I've been waiting for that a long while
[12:09] <DiecastMessiah> actually i was shocked to see that skype was on linux.. seeing that it a evil microsoft thing
[12:10] <rollingubuntu> hello everybody! anyone experienced that Ubuntu does not go to screensave (black screen to save energy after a few minutes of inactivity?) when youtube is playing in a browser?
[12:11] <akik> sasho199: you can run it as "bash ./acpi_osi.sh". it'll ask for the sudo password
[12:11] <DiecastMessiah> rollingubuntu, doyou mean that it goes it save screen even thou you are playing a full screen video??
[12:13] <sasho199> akik: I get this: strings: '/sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT': No such file Linux kernel command-line options required: acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=" Do you want to add this setting (y/n) ? n
[12:15] <DiecastMessiah> rollingubuntu, anyway if you playing videos it shouldn't go to a blankscreen,, it would be a problem if it did....
[12:19] <akik> sasho199: if you now have acpi=off, you need to remove it and reboot
[12:19] <akik> sasho199: /proc/cmdline should show it
[12:19] <sasho199> akik: I add the acpi=off every time I start my computer, otherwise it does not boot
[12:19] <akik> sasho199: try booting into the recovery mode. does that work?
[12:20] <sasho199> akik: How do you do that again?
[12:21] <akik> sasho199: press left shift when your computer boots and you'll go to the grub menu
[12:22] <sasho199> akik: And then?
[12:22] <rollingubuntu> DiecastMessiah: I mean, I am listening to some music on my laptop and I am away from the screen... the laptop runs on battery... so, I am wondering if there is any option I can set/change so that if switches off the screen :D
[12:24] <akik> sasho199: then select the recovery mode, then the root shell, then enter password, then: mount -o remount,rw / then run the script
[12:25] <akik> sasho199: remember to remove acpi=off
[12:25] <sasho199> akik: Ok, I'll try it.
[12:27] <DiecastMessiah> rollingubuntu there maybe a way but i think the easiest way would be go to the power settings and set do nothing to when i close my lid .. and when ya walk away close the lid.. that will keep working but it will turn off your monitor
[12:27] <qswz> guys
[12:27] <qswz> on a touchpad, how do you middle-click
[12:27] <qswz> I used to do left+right click at same time
[12:28] <qswz> now on this new laptop, nothing happens
[12:28] <qswz> (I use it often to paste content highlighted)
[12:29] <rollingubuntu> DiecastMessiah: hmm... as you say, that's a nice workaround...would you share your other idea too? :)
[12:29] <qswz> do some of you have 3 touch for middle-click?
[12:30] <qswz> might be cool
[12:31] <akik> qswz: can you click both left and right together?
[12:31] <akik> qswz: my clickpad  doesn't support it but it was a way to paste the buffer
[12:32] <DiecastMessiah> rollingubuntu,  i don;t have another idea... was thinking there maybe a way to force it but i really don;t know
[12:32] <anddam> is it possible to install libgtk 3.22 on Xenial? even the gnome 3 PPA offers 3.20
[12:35] <sasho199> akik: I tried and I got some errors, Could not read some file and could not open another file bacause its read-only.
[12:35] <sasho199> akik: But I think I entered recovery mode succesfully
[12:37] <hateball> sasho199: well you dont need to run the script
[12:37] <hateball> sasho199: you can just do it manually
[12:38] <sasho199> hateball: Won't I get the same error if I execute the same commands?
[12:40] <qswz> akik: yea that works on my old acer
[12:40] <Lope> how can I install avidemux? why was it removed from repositories?
[12:40] <qswz> now I have a new dell inspiron, but nope :(
[12:41] <qswz> I just need a way to paste current buffer
[12:41] <qswz> be it 3 touch click
[12:41] <qswz> or left and right click
[12:42] <hateball> sasho199: run manually: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows '
[12:43] <hateball> sasho199: does that return anything?
[12:46] <akik> qswz: i also have an acer from 2011 that has separate left and right buttons :P no more
[12:49] <akik> sasho199: you need to run "mount -o remount,rw /" to be able to write in the recovery mode
[12:49] <akik> kind of strange that you still need that
[12:49] <sasho199> akik, hateball: I ran the script again and I got some error that it couldnt read the file, I pressed yes anyways and now it seems to work. I force powered off my computer so I can start it while holding shift. I did that to see what was added to the lines when you boot, it was: acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=" and I think there was supposed to be something after the = but the file could not be read
[12:50] <akik> sasho199: if you boot the machine with acpi=off, it won't work
[12:50] <nbl1> Did anyone has succed to install ubuntu on lastet macbook pro ?
[12:51] <sasho199> akik: Some features did not work, like setting the brightness with the keyboard for example. Now that works. And I dont have to add anything when I start my computer
[12:51] <akik> sasho199: i'd still modify the config file for the latest "Windows nnnn"
[12:52] <akik> sasho199: it's in /etc/default/grub
[12:52] <sasho199> akik: how can I do that?
[12:52] <akik> sasho199: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[12:53] <akik> sasho199: the syntax is: acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"
[12:53] <sasho199> akik: Did that script change this file?
[12:53] <akik> sasho199: yes
[12:54] <sasho199> akik: currently its like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=\""
[12:56] <sasho199> akik: Should I change it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2018\""
[12:57] <akik> sasho199: i put the " in a different place but try it
[12:57] <sasho199> akik: Should it be 2018?
[12:57] <Neo4> I can't write anything to usb disk, got error 'read only'
[12:58] <akik> sasho199: sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows
[12:58] <Neo4> what shall I do?
[12:58] <akik> sasho199: pick the "latest"
[12:59] <akik> sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i "^windows " | sort -n
[12:59] <sasho199> akik: The script that failed to read was supposed to copy from this right?
[13:00] <anders_> im trying to install ftdi drivers. I've downloaded the .tgz package, but when im trying to use "tar" in terminal, it says "cannot execute open, the file or folder does not exist". How can i fix this? I've also tried to open terminal in downloads folder and use the tar command, but I get the same message.
[13:00] <akik> sasho199: it'll pick the latest version and add to /etc/default/grub but not sure why it failed in your case
[13:01] <akik> sasho199: yes it'll read from that DSDT
[13:01] <oerheks> Neo4, sounds like bad blocks, perform a filecheck ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[13:01] <sasho199> akik: ok now it looks like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015 \""
[13:01] <sasho199> akik: how can I save that?
[13:02] <akik> sasho199: remove that single space before \""
[13:02] <akik> sasho199: then ctrl+x
[13:02] <DiecastMessiah> anders maybe permission is not set to execute
[13:03] <hateball> anders_: whats the exact command you run? it should be "tar xvzf file.tgz"
[13:03] <anders_> DieCastMessiah, that could be. I only run default settings in Ubuntu Mate. Do you know how I can set permission to execute?
[13:04] <hateball> or simply use a gui tool to unpack it
[13:04] <anders_> I'm running tar xvzf file.tgz command
[13:04] <akik> sasho199: after that, run: sudo update-grub
[13:05] <sasho199> akik: ok I think its done
[13:05] <anders_> Okay, because I am able to unpack withouth terminal, but I am afraid I might run into problems later since the commands for installing does not find the path
[13:05] <sasho199> akik: I guess I should reboot now?
[13:05] <akik> sasho199: yes
[13:06] <rollingubuntu> DiecastMessiah: many thanks! :)
[13:08] <rollingubuntu> DiecastMessiah: would you happen to know if there is a command line that I can use to switch between what happens when the lid is closed? (I need my laptop to go to sleep usually, so before I leave the desk, I would give a line of command the another one to take back to "normal") :)
[13:08] <DiecastMessiah> anders_ I pretty new so not off the top but it would be something like ' sudo chmod ### filename '
[13:08] <DiecastMessiah> top of head^
[13:09] <DiecastMessiah> but google search file permissions linux that you should find all you need
[13:09] <anders_> DiecastMessiah thanks! I will try that. I also right clicked on the .tgz  and changed permissions to Write  and read.
[13:10] <DiecastMessiah> rollingubuntu, no idea sorry
[13:11] <sasho199> akik: I rebooted and the loading screen froze, tried with windows 2012 too, froze again. Now It's just "acpi_osi=" and it works
[13:12] <akik> sasho199: ok strange
[13:13] <akik> sasho199: nothing else than acpi_osi= ?
[13:13] <anders_> HAH, right clicking on the folder and changing permissions helped. Thank you alot for the help DiecastMessiah
[13:13] <DiecastMessiah> no problem
[13:14] <sasho199> akik: can you give me the destination of that file, I will paste exaclty what I had
[13:14] <gde33> is there an alternative to synergy just for linux/ubuntu boxes?
[13:14] <akik> sasho199: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:14] <gde33> or are they doing something so exotic that it lives outside the realm of foss? :P
[13:15] <DiecastMessiah> anders_ just incase you are new new.. it best to find packages like .deb if you can.. installing from tarballs is hard and not the safest thing to do
[13:15] <sasho199> akik: What is that?
[13:16] <gde33> I see about 10 alternatives for windos
[13:16] <akik> sasho199: you can paste the file there. it'll give you an url back
[13:16] <hateball> gde33: synergy is in the repos so... ?
[13:17] <gde33> hateball: I think only an old version
[13:17] <hateball> gde33: is it not working?
[13:17] <sasho199> akik: I have not copied it since I had to restart. I asked you for the url of the grub configuration file so I can open it, cause I dont remember exatly what is written there
[13:17] <gde33> hateball: its very basic and not being developed
[13:17] <akik> sasho199: /etc/default/grub ?
[13:18] <sasho199> akik: Thanks, where do you get information like that?
[13:18] <akik> sasho199: my brain :)
[13:19] <oerheks> or the !grub manual
[13:19] <gde33> hateball: its not that I dont like synergy the way it is, it might even be worth paying for but this idea that there is only closed source commercial software?
[13:20] <sasho199> akik: Haha ok! What was the whole command, because Im getting an emtpy file and I think Im doing something wrong
[13:20] <akik> sasho199: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[13:21] <hateball> gde33: afaik it is gpl
[13:21] <hateball> gde33: but they sell access to pre-compiled binaries
[13:22] <hateball> gde33: that said, I havent used it for a long time, so that might have changed
[13:22] <gde33> the concept is lovely
[13:23] <gde33> I'm slightly confused by software center not working and software links in google redirecting to a generic snapcraft.io page
[13:24] <sasho199> akik: I had this when It did not freeze on the loading screen: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=\""
[13:24] <hateball> sasho199: as long as that works, stick with it
[13:25] <sasho199> hateball: I guess so, but I'm also trying to learn linux. So of course If I can find an explanation that would be better.
[13:25] <akik> sasho199: the thing is if you didn't run the mount -o remount,rw / you weren't able to write files in the recovery mode
[13:27] <sasho199> akik: I presume this is an explantion to why the script did not work? Maybe I misspelled something or put a space in there that shouldn't have been there
[13:27] <akik> sasho199: and the missing /sys/firmware/acpi was probably because you booted with acpi=off
[13:28] <sasho199> akik: That makes sense.
[13:28] <sasho199> akik, hateball: Thank you both for your help! I will change the file of the configuration that worked, maybe in the future I'll find out why that is.
[13:29] <cart_man> Hi everyone .. I am trying to do -> curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_8.x | sudo -E bash -   BUT it fails halfway and then says E: Failed to fetch https://ppa.launchpad.net/mc3man/trusty-media/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binray-armhf/Packages
[13:30] <cart_man> What do I do to fix this... it also happens when I do sudo apt-get update
[13:30] <hateball> !ppa | cart_man
[13:30] <cart_man> hateball Yes but it happens with apt-get update as well
[13:30] <Neo4> how to mount disk not only for read only?
[13:31] <hateball> cart_man: !paste the output of apt update
[13:31] <hateball> cart_man: I am guessing you have added broken PPAs
[13:31] <Neo4> I tried use this commands:
[13:31] <Neo4> umount /dev/sdc
[13:31] <Neo4> and then mount /dev/sdc /media
[13:31] <Neo4> and result the same can't create directory or files
[13:31] <Neo4> it mounts as read only
[13:32] <oerheks> Neo4, did you check for bad blocks/files?
[13:33] <hateball> what filesystem is it even? is it owned by another user?
[13:33] <Neo4> oerheks: no
[13:33] <cart_man> hateball -> https://pastebin.com/mEavArSZ
[13:34] <Neo4> oerheks: do you think this is bad block files? I've read there and didn't understnad anything
[13:35] <Neo4> oerheks: here good files, I copied from there files to disk recent
[13:35] <Neo4> and can write there in windows
[13:35] <cart_man> hateball Talking to me?
[13:35] <oerheks> windows does not care about dirty drives
[13:35] <Neo4> oerheks: I think there all right with files, it might be something wrong with permission
[13:36] <oerheks> Neo4, find out if it is ntfs or fat32.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting#dosfstools_-_FAT12.2C_FAT16_and_FAT32_.28vfat.29_filesystem
[13:36] <oerheks> Neo4, no, fat32 and ntfs is not posix, so no need to set permissions
[13:36] <Neo4> oerheks: fat32 http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518701796.png
[13:37] <hateball> cart_man: Like I said, you have added broken PPAs to your sources
[13:37] <hateball> cart_man: "PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk."
[13:37] <Neo4> I tried this mount -t mtfs /dev/sdc /media and this didn't work
[13:37] <cart_man> hateball Hmm ok possible.. how do I reset it ...also the broken PPAs comes from nodeJS site
[13:38] <oerheks> fsck.vfat -n /dev/sdc
[13:38] <cart_man> hateball As I said -> curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_8.x | sudo -E bash -
[13:39] <Neo4> oerheks: what is it?
[13:40] <Neo4> oerheks: ok
[13:40] <oerheks> cart_man, you used the wrong ppa for xenial, see https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-media
[13:41] <Neo4> oerheks: I've run check
[13:44] <cart_man> oerheks Ok but thats the one on the website .. ? ALso I assume I now do ppa purge? -> sudo ppa-purge ppa:mc3man/trusty-media
[13:45] <oerheks> cart_man, no need to ppa purge, as it never installed any package, just remove the ppa from sources menu in softwarecenter
[13:45] <oerheks> or remove the list in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.
[13:46] <philipp> hi
[13:46] <Neo4> oerheks: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518702133.png
[13:47] <Neo4> oerheks: what to do next?
[13:47] <philipp> hi, i try to use pyusb and get the error ValueError: The device has no langid
[13:47] <philipp> how to change usb permissions?
[13:47] <philipp> and where is the usb device (not ttyUSB*)
[13:47] <Neo4> oerheks: fsck.vfat -r /dev/sdc1
[13:48] <Neo4> prevuse command change my disk name on sdd
[13:48] <noob_on_rails> hey all! , im trying to recover my dualboot drive ( actually transfer my 250 GB to a 500GB ) using Acronis, but it seems as if the ubuntu partition is not really recognized
[13:49] <oerheks> Neo4, no idea there .. try to fix it on windows, perhaps?
[13:50] <Neo4> oerheks: in windows I can use checkdisk -r
[13:51] <Neo4> chdisk -r or -f I forgot *
[13:51] <DiecastMessiah> did someone try to Pm me ??
[13:52] <user____> .
[13:52] <user____> after a do-release-upgrade my ppas have been disabled, how do I enable them back
[13:54] <DiecastMessiah> nm i think my keyboard is dieing and it open a pm to Neo4 for some reason. my tab key is not working right
[13:55] <philipp> i thank you for your help as usual...
[13:55] <Neo4> DiecastMessiah: I'm busy
[13:56] <DiecastMessiah> sorry i didn't mean for it to open a PM must have been my keyboard or maybe i bushed my touchpad while trying to alt-tab
[14:01] <oerheks> user____, examine them one by one, to see if they provide packages for your version, and add the ppa again, and install the program you like
[14:02] <Neo4> oerheks: I can create directory there using terminal, from filemanager can't even when I ran it as root
[14:02] <Neo4> oerheks: yes, it was reason
[14:03] <Neo4> I maybe go to windows and there will make chdisk \r
[14:04] <oerheks> Neo4, really odd.. maybe you want to write a file larger than 4 gb, that is beyond the fat32 limit
[14:04] <Neo4> oerheks: no
[14:04] <Neo4> create folder
[14:04] <Neo4> now show error, wait
[14:05] <Neo4> oerheks: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518703508.png
[14:06] <oerheks> Neo4, please use paste.ubuntu.com, that site loads horribly slow
[14:06] <oerheks> why a pic for text...
[14:06] <Neo4> oerheks: easier understand
[14:07] <Neo4> oerheks: rsync command works and enough :)
[14:07] <Neo4> I can copy there
[14:09] <rdp_> hiii
[14:11] <user____> oerheks: I don't even know how to list them, I had a few
[14:11] <user____> oerheks: from what I read during the upgrade, they were going to be "disabled"
[14:12] <user____> as in, then you can reenable them, but I just don't know how
[14:12] <Neo4> oerheks: it is in ubuntu we need always check disks?
[14:19] <Neo4> who know why gparter doesn't run?
[14:19] <Neo4> http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518704330.png
[14:20] <Neo4> I want increase memmory for ubuntu partition, remove from windows 25Gb for it
[14:21] <rollingubuntu> DiecastMessiah: I found it: xset dpms force off
[14:21] <rollingubuntu> ;)
[14:22] <Neo4> in /dev folder is stored all our devices
[14:25] <oerheks> user____, yes, do-release-upgrade removes ppa's, you cannot simply enable them again, you need to add them again, search for those ppa's on launchpad, or searchengine "ubuntu ppa <ppaname>"
 oerheks: it is in ubuntu we need always check disks? no, only if the disk/usb is dirty, faulty files or bad blocks.. still do not see that image, so you are on your own now
[14:26] <ledeni> user____,  check --->https://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[14:26] <Neo4> oerheks: why do not see?
[14:27] <Neo4> oerheks: error
[14:27] <Neo4> Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.
[14:27] <Neo4> when open gPartered
[14:27] <oerheks> Neo4, time to check it in windows..
[14:27] <oerheks> maybe it has a virus, who knows??
[14:28] <Neo4> oerheks: no it's gPartered app, do you know it?
[14:28] <Neo4> oerheks: maybe there something broken with files
[14:28]  * oerheks facepalms
[14:29] <oerheks> that is what i am typing for an hour now
[14:29] <Neo4> oerheks: about check?
[14:29] <oerheks> your check failed, no?
[14:30] <Neo4> oerheks: I've done it and it's work, have other problem Want add 25Gb to ubuntu partition and can't open gpartered app
[14:30] <Neo4> oerheks: USB?
[14:30] <Neo4> oerheks: I now check there, it takes long time
[14:31] <Neo4> oerheks: I have currently 35Gb under ubuntu and cut from windows 25, want add to ubuntu and can't
[14:33] <oerheks> Neo4, you will need to do that from a live iso, not from a running system
[14:34] <oerheks> tons of manuals online, like https://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/
[14:34] <Neo4> oerheks: what is leave iso? it is usb from where we install ubuntu?
[14:34] <oerheks> yes
[14:34] <malibu> I am on 17.04 and I'm getting 404's when I attempt apt.  I would like to upgrade to 17.10.  Can anyone send me a clear list of steps?  All the ones I google on seem to assume you still have access to the current release repo
[14:35] <oerheks> !eolupgrade | malibu
[14:35] <Neo4> oerheks: ok, I thought I can do it from gparded. In windows we needn't do it from livecd
[14:36] <malibu> I have been to this page, but it doesn't say what apt-sources should be.  It just says 'update according to your release'
[14:36] <malibu> Are there repositories somewhere available for 17.04?
[14:37] <oerheks> malibu, just change the 1st part to deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ <etc> and update-grub
[14:38] <malibu> oerheks: thanks, I think that is the bit of info that I needed
[14:38] <oerheks> :-)
[14:51] <Boyette> thx guys
[14:51] <Boyette> got 1000mbps now
[14:51] <Boyette> thx to you guys and TP LINK
[14:52] <shanky> Hi someone can help in solving issuewhich i am facing after waking up ubuntu16.04 after suspend causing no netwrk and on using systemctl to restart using terminal causes it to hang :(
[14:54] <ren0v0> Hi, i've created a new systemd unit for redis (2nd instance), but when i start it it just hangs
[14:54] <ren0v0> the process starts up, but shell just hangs
[14:54] <ren0v0> so when i run "sudo systemctl start redis-server-6379.service", it never completes?
[14:55] <ren0v0> the module says  Active: activating (start-post) since Thu 2018-02-15 14:53:40 UTC; 1min 12s ago
[14:57] <nojm> hi all i want to browse a drive via terminal how do i go about it i know the path is /dev/sdb2(do i need to use mount command or mkdir?)
[14:57] <sanay> hi
[14:57] <nojm> hi
[15:00] <sophisthunter> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFLhbJRt_E
[15:00] <nojm> I  want to browse a drive via terminal how do i go about it i
[15:00] <JimBunbtu> nojm, You mean like `ls -halF ~` ?
[15:01] <oerheks> sophisthunter, please don't spam youtube here, thanks
[15:01] <nojm> sorry i just want to check out the files on the drive but from terminal
[15:02] <nojm> but i cant get into the drive it says it doesnt exist
[15:02] <JimBunbtu> nojm, Then it sounds like you should check out `man ls`
[15:02] <nojm> but it does as i confirmed with fdisk -l
[15:03] <JimBunbtu> nojm, Sounds like you may need to `mount` the drive. Are you familiar?
[15:03] <nojm> i cant even get into the drive
[15:03] <nojm> i am fam with man but i cant even get to the drive via terminal
[15:03] <seizo> im trying to script `cadaver` to download a directory recursively from a WebDAV server without having to name each file locally (ie just use the name of the file on the server), anyone know if this is possible?
[15:04] <nojm> didnt read properly thanks will use mount command
[15:04] <oerheks> nojm, find out what partitiontype is on that drive, fat32 and ntfs gets mounted under /media/
[15:05] <nojm> all g got that part covered with fdisk -l thank you re mount confirmation
[15:05] <nojm> this one is /dev/sdb2
[15:06] <nojm> will check part type and use -t option yeah
[15:08] <shanky> ifconfig i snot working after waking up from suspend :(
[15:09] <nojm> :)sorted thanks mate
[15:28] <sophisthunter> I want someone to shit directly in my mouth
[15:28] <Sean_McG> asking on IRC is a pretty stupid thing to do
[15:28] <sophisthunter> yes or no
[15:29] <sophisthunter> will you shit in my mouth?
[15:29] <oerheks> !ops | sophisthunter
[15:29] <oerheks> after spamming multiple channels, this behaviour is not wanted here, sophisthunter
[15:30] <sophisthunter> I used to have a boyfriend named "ubuntu" ... he would "play the bongos" on my ass
[15:36] <robeph> exit
[15:37] <shanky> additional driver in 16.04 is  do not use and unknown any issue with taht
[15:39] <Sean_McG> is it safe to upgrade to a daily snapshot of bionic now (from xenial) or should I wait until actual release?
[15:40] <oerheks> Sean_McG, development versions are standard not safe .. for production, that is.
[15:40] <robeph> quick question,  I need the dummy_hcd kernal module,  but m-a doesn't seem to have it any ideas an easy way of getting this sorted?
[15:40] <gsec> Ubuntu is my eggs
[15:40] <gsec> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[15:40] <gsec> zoas
[15:40] <oerheks> Sean_McG, but feel free helping test Bionic, really appreciated
[15:40] <Sean_McG> oerheks: I'm a hobbyist so 'production' is a malleable(sp?) term.
[15:41] <tomeaton17> I want to disable the login prompt on tty1 to just tail syslog. How do I do this?
[15:41] <oerheks> production as in professional work environment
[15:41] <leftyfb> !ops| gsec
[15:41] <oerheks> .. and you will get daily updates
[15:41] <gsec> jajajajajajajaja
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> Sean_McG: #ubuntu+1 also if interested in 18.04
[15:42] <Sean_McG> lotuspsychje: cool, thanks.
[15:42] <robeph> anyone know how to add a module to module-assistant?
[15:43] <Sean_McG> tomeaton17: nowadays, that probably means writing a systemd unit file (bleh.)
[15:43] <Sean_McG> tomeaton17: it was so much easier with oldschool init
[15:44] <qswz> I can't make my touchpad to middleclick :(
[15:44] <leftyfb> qswz: AFAIK, touchpads don't "middle click"
[15:45] <tomeaton17> Sean_McG: I am familiar with writing systemd unit files, just recently have to convert loads of upstart scripts to systemd. Must I disable getty or something like that on tty to stop the login prompt?
[15:45] <robeph> leftyfb: somedo,  I had one that two finger third tap would mid click
[15:45] <robeph> tomeaton17: you could auto login with a dummy user who runs that as a script with noshell
[15:45] <qswz> leftyfb: you see what I mean
[15:45] <qswz> on linux there's one great thing
[15:45] <Sean_McG> tomeaton17: yes, it probably means duplicating whatever unit file is spawning getty and editing it to not use tty1
[15:46] <qswz> where you highlight and then middleclick can paste buffer
[15:46] <leftyfb> qswz: yep
[15:46] <robeph> qswz: you could probably create a multitouch gesture for it,
[15:46] <leftyfb> always wondered if there was a keyboard paste for that
[15:46] <qswz> well how
[15:46] <oerheks> There is DKMS to build/add a kernelmodule https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[15:46] <qswz> I've been looking at stackoverflow things since 1H
[15:46] <qswz> trying synclient
[15:47] <robeph> touchegg maybe?
[15:47] <robeph> not sure if it is in sources but we used that on some embedded stuff we did and needed more gesture control
[15:48] <tomeaton17> Sean_McG: Could I just disable getty@tty1.service
[15:48] <robeph> qswz: https://github.com/JoseExposito/touchegg
[15:48] <Sean_McG> tomeaton17: worth a try
[15:49] <robeph> qswz: though if you're in console not sure it's of much use.
[15:50] <robeph> I'm not familiar with debian so much,  coming from gentoo,   so not really sure about the kernal modules here,  but I'm missing dummy_hcd and need it on this embedded device,  I've got module-assistant but dummy_hcd isn't in the list of modules, nor is it prebuilt,
[15:51] <robeph> any idea a best route for getting this on this machine?
[15:51] <tomeaton17> Sean_McG: Yep that fixes it
[15:54] <nacc> robeph: that config option is not set in the ubuntu kernels (at least on my system)
[15:54] <nacc> robeph: so it's not built at all
[15:54] <robeph> yeah I know
[15:55] <robeph> I figured that this module-assistant bit would help build it?  no?
[15:55] <robeph> but can't really find much on the config for missing mods in it.   it just says "if it is missing you need to add it"  or some such,  on the wiki :\
[15:55] <nacc> robeph: well, it's not external, in that sense
[15:55] <nacc> robeph: it's just not built
[15:56] <robeph> ah
[15:56] <nacc> robeph: i think external there means 3rd party
[15:56] <robeph> just need to enable in kernel and rebuild mods?
[15:56] <nacc> just that one module
[15:56] <robeph> yeah
[15:59] <robeph> nacc: what is in that package linux-image-extra-4.13.0-32-generic,  might it be in that?  I'm not sure how to query actual contents of the pkgs
[15:59] <nacc> robeph: dpkg -L and apt-file list
[16:00] <nacc> robeph: well that is the *binary* kernel contents
[16:00] <robeph> yeah it just had a desc saying extra modules
[16:00] <nacc> robeph: you need to get the source for the kernel and then build the module by hand
[16:00] <robeph> didn't know if maybe it wasn't core, but in that pkg
[16:01] <JTech> most web browser games just stopped working a few days ago. I don't know why. I use Xubuntu. I'm trying to see how to install Flash and nothing is found in my "Software" manager, nor in the link that help.ubuntu sends me to.
[16:01] <nacc> robeph: i believe -extra is still built from src:linux
[16:01] <nacc> robeph: which i think menas it's the same .config
[16:01] <robeph> JTech: define not working
[16:02] <robeph> JTech: just that gray flash sqare,  nothing,  an error
[16:02] <robeph> nacc: ahh,  true
[16:02] <JTech> robeph, they sit there and say "loading" forever. like indefinitely. for over an hour.
[16:02] <robeph> nacc: manual build it is,
[16:03] <JTech> robeph, I'm trying to fix it for someone else so I dont have 1st hand account. but they use MSN Games.
[16:03] <robeph> JTech:  so it initialises the flash element,  and it shows loading?
[16:03] <qswz> robeph: thx will test
[16:04] <robeph> qswz: np
[16:04] <robeph> qswz: we had an embedded touch screen,  and used that to setup two finger mousewheel scroll emulation
[16:04] <JTech> robeph, I don't know how to tell... I would guess it's initialized. It's got a loading spinner animated.
[16:04] <robeph> yeah,  so flash isn't "failing" per se,   it's just not loading,  if that's the case.
[16:05] <robeph> is it only flashgames on a specific site,  have you tested other flash services?
[16:05] <JTech> robeph, I'm not sure how to test this.
[16:05] <robeph> go to adobe's flash site,  I guess,  see if their "test if installed"  thing runs
[16:05] <JTech> They tried other sites and most of them had the same results. only one or two worked.
[16:06] <robeph> so some work some don't,  that suggests it isn't just broken,
[16:06] <robeph> the ones that work,  were they simpler? perhaps?  have you checked storage on the temp files location of the flash elements?  eg.  sometimes it isn't obvious that space is restricted and just keeps trying to load while not throwqing an error
[16:07] <robeph> probably wherever the browser caches stuff
[16:08] <oerheks> JTech, try google-chrome perhaps? best browser for DRM games
[16:08] <nacc> robeph: probably the *right* way to do it is dkms build it ... but i'm not sure (fwiw)
[16:08] <JTech> oerheks, I tried Chromium. not sure I want to try Chrome.
[16:08] <robeph> yeah I am seeing this may be an option since I'll need to have this easier to do by others
[16:08] <robeph> I just need the module to ensure this loop device has UDC
[16:08] <oerheks> JTech, it got some sort of silverlight buildin
[16:09] <robeph> once I know it works right,  I can get back to figuring how to do it with dkms
[16:09] <nacc> robeph: yeah, i think this m ight help: https://serianox.github.io/gadgetfs-ubuntu.html
[16:09] <nacc> robeph: and LP: 1073089
[16:09] <robeph> well crap wish I'd found this one lol
[16:10] <nacc> there's a different link in that bug
[16:10] <nacc> but either one *should* work, afaict
[16:10] <JTech> the test on Adobe Flash's website doesn't work. it says "the plugin is not supported". Why were games working only a few days ago but now they're not?
[16:10] <s10gopal> how to install YAKINDU state chart tool in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:11] <robeph> nacc: well extras is mentioned there too,  it may not need dummy_hdc  if the gadget is working properly with whatever else is needed,  lemme see what this bug is on about
[16:11] <robeph> JTech: probbably not adobes,  so may not work
[16:11] <JTech> maybe I should just sacrifice her to the botnet. I've been trying to save her from it, convincing her that facebook and google are evil. I think she's coming around, but she still uses facebook to socialize.
[16:11] <nacc> robeph: ack, just cursory searchng on my part
[16:11] <robeph> if it doesn't work that means nothing insofar as this goes,   because you're not experiencing this on those sites... unless that loading sequence is not flash per se and just a java loader masquarading waiting for the flash element to load
[16:12] <nacc> s10gopal: is it an ubuntu package?
[16:12] <JTech> bleh. I don't know what to do.
[16:12] <s10gopal> nacc, yes
[16:12] <nacc> s10gopal: what is its  name?
[16:12] <robeph> nacc: hahah I'll figure it out,  thanks for these links,   I was searching using specific criteria you found that one with the hdc dummy module which is excellent,  cos I think that is what I need for sure
[16:12] <robeph> he's doing same thing I am
[16:12] <robeph> sorta
[16:13] <s10gopal> nacc, i downloaded it from https://www.itemis.com/en/yakindu/state-machine/download-options/?utm_campaign=YAKINDU%20Statechart%20Tools&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8atKMMP0H18UnotCBW4Re9uyWvVs81nUtWUe7HYm44KstzBTAcfLHmAJHBoOYdSjOeWil8gBUQD-RcSefIGipjEXoILg&_hsmi=24598355&utm_content=24598355&utm_source=hs_automation&hsCtaTracking=ed6f6079-c3b9-4240-9e15-125d551eec93%7C165b6ffc-1673-4bd5-bd59-a9c16c79e7b4
[16:13] <JTech> I already spent an hour on this. maybe I should tell her to bring it to the computer shop at this point.
[16:13] <robeph> JTech: has it ever worked?
[16:13] <nacc> s10gopal: that is not an *ubuntu* package
[16:13] <nacc> s10gopal: well, i'm unwilling to find out
[16:13] <nacc> s10gopal: but i meant is it packaged by ubuntu
[16:13] <JTech> robeph, I already said it was working a few days ago.
[16:13] <nacc> s10gopal: you should ask the yakindu folks
[16:13] <nacc> robeph: yeah, it sounded at least similar
[16:13] <s10gopal> nacc, where are they?
[16:13] <nacc> s10gopal: i don't know
[16:14] <s10gopal> nacc, plz see this https://www.itemis.com/en/yakindu/state-machine/documentation/user-guide/inst_installing_yakindu_statechart_tools#inst_installing_on_linux
[16:14] <nacc> s10gopal: no thank you
[16:14] <JTech> I'm getting too old to deal with technical problems. I wonder if it's a character flaw rather than anything inherent to old age.
[16:14] <nacc> s10gopal: you have instructions, i'm assuming, from the link title. please follow them
[16:15] <oerheks> https://github.com/Yakindu/statecharts/wiki/Known-Linux-issues-and-workarounds
[16:15] <oerheks> gtk2 .. ols
[16:15] <oerheks> old*
[16:15] <Guest8> test
[16:15] <JTech> like the instructions here don't work: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html
[16:16] <s10gopal> oerheks, can you plz guide me how to install it ? i have already downloaded .zip file , i need to download eclipse too ?
[16:17] <JTech> there's no "adobe-flashplugin" either in my "Software" manager, nor in the link that that website directs me to, the snapcraft.io/store which it looks like my OS redirects me to from the actual link of apps.ubuntu
[16:17] <oerheks> s10gopal, no. i have no clue about that chart program
[16:17] <ducasse> s10gopal: why don't you read the instructions and follow them?
[16:18] <JTech> maybe it was a mistake to tell her to use Xubuntu. I should have told her just to get Windows.
[16:20] <s10gopal> oerheks, how to install .zip file?
[16:20] <oerheks> click on it, and fileroller will open it, extract, done. then find out how, in the read.me?
[16:21] <oerheks> or read the onlinemanual?
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> JTech: installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> JTech: or follow oerheks advice google chrome
[16:23] <s10gopal> how to install YAKINDU state chart tool in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> s10gopal: you just asked that
[16:23] <s10gopal> lotuspsychje, problem not solved
[16:24] <oerheks> it is not an ubuntu package, so support relies on someone who knows that app
[16:24] <nacc> s10gopal: you were told how, read the instructions
[16:24] <nacc> s10gopal: this is not a 'support the world' channel, this is a ubuntu support channel
[16:25] <s10gopal> lotuspsychje, you are at #yakindu ?
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> s10gopal: empty channel
[16:25] <robeph> lol
[16:26] <robeph> s10gopal: why can't you install it
[16:27] <s10gopal> robairt_, it is .zip file ./configure dont work + i dont know i need to install eclipse too ?
[16:27] <robeph> yes looks to need eclipse
[16:28] <robeph> it's a plugin it appears
[16:28] <robeph> needs a few deps for it to work,  which may or may not be installed already
[16:28] <s10gopal> robairt_, but the zip size is 239MB
[16:28] <s10gopal> and it is sill a plugin?
[16:29] <robeph> s10gopal:  not sure, let me look at its nix documentation
[16:29] <robeph> it can work as standalone is says
[16:30] <robeph> s10gopal: so may not be necessary
[16:30] <robeph> https://www.itemis.com/en/yakindu/state-machine/documentation/user-guide/inst_installing_yakindu_statechart_tools#inst_installing_on_linux
[16:30] <robeph> s10gopal: ^
[16:30] <robeph> pretty straight fwd
[16:30] <robeph> I think it may need eclipse for this particular but not really sure, cos I never used it
[16:31] <s10gopal> robeph, any other tool ? i need to make state machine elevator on arduino
[16:31] <robeph> yeah looks like it has stand alone functionality using that sct bit it has
[16:32] <s10gopal> and ./SCT dont work
[16:32] <robeph> doesn't work is a wide array of meanings.  What do you mean, does not work
[16:32] <robeph> if it is failing i suspect you may be missing dependancies
[16:32] <s10gopal> Version 1.7.0_151 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.8 or greater is required.
[16:32] <robeph> there should be an error
[16:32] <robeph> you need a newer java virtual machine
[16:32] <robeph> upgrade it?
[16:32] <s10gopal> how?
[16:33] <lordcirth_work> s10gopal, apt install openjdk-8-jre ?
[16:34] <robeph> ^
[16:34] <s10gopal> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jr
[16:34] <s10gopal> i'm using ubuntu 14.04LTS
[16:34] <robeph> hold a moment
[16:34] <lordcirth_work> jre, not jr
[16:35] <s10gopal> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jr
[16:35] <s10gopal> E: Unable to locate package openjdk-8-jre
[16:35] <robeph> hrm
[16:35] <oerheks> no openjdk8 for trusty, upgrade to 16.04 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8
[16:36] <robeph> if you can't upgrade,  you should be able to just build it,  shouldn't be too much of a problem eh
[16:36] <lordcirth_work> upgrading is a good idea in general, though
[16:37] <robeph> if he's on an embedded system oerheks may be limited to versioning,  I am
[16:37] <nacc> robeph: not the issue in this case, afawk
[16:37] <robeph> ah ok
[16:37] <robeph> he said it was for a state machine on an arduino,  didn't know if he was running this in system
[16:38] <s10gopal> oerheks, i cant use ubuntu 16.04 , battery draines when laptop is off
[16:38] <s10gopal> robairt_, problem is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[16:38] <robeph> ah
[16:44] <s10gopal> robairt_, i need to upgrade jvm to 1.8
[16:45] <oerheks> !java
[16:45] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Build_it_yourself
[16:46] <robeph> oerheks: can he add the openjdk ppa repo and just get it from there?
[16:46] <s10gopal> oerheks, i need JVM
[16:46] <robeph> s10gopal: jvm is in that package
[16:47] <robeph> s10gopal: I don't know for certain this will work,  as I'm not really knowledgeable about apt, but consider trying this https://docs.datastax.com/en/cassandra/3.0/cassandra/install/installOpenJdkDeb.html
[16:47] <oerheks> you might want to look in the webupd8 ppa on that page.. that gives oracle java6/7/8/9
[16:48] <oerheks> oh, JVM... not jre or jdk
[16:48] <s10gopal> oerheks, ?
[16:50] <oerheks> i stop with this no-go java, see the url of ubottu
[16:53] <OnceMe> how do I find what I host on /dev/sda5 partition?
[16:53] <OnceMe> its 99% in use, but my / is only 79% in use so I want to move some files to /
[16:53] <crond> OnceMe, you can look in /etc/fstab, or run 'mount' and see what's mounted on that partition.
[16:54] <crond> you may have stuff listed by UUID in your fstab tho
[16:55] <OnceMe> well /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[16:55] <crond> well then that's your root partition.
[16:55] <crond> df -h also lists that kinda stuff btw.
[16:56] <OnceMe> I dont get it
[16:56] <OnceMe> how is / 99% full
[16:56] <OnceMe> and showing 300mb left and /home shows 50G left
[16:56] <compdoc> not the one, then
[16:56] <OnceMe> ?
[16:56] <crond>  /home is probably a seperate partition
[16:57] <crond> you didn't give enough space to / perhaps.
[16:57] <compdoc> df -h
[16:57] <EriC^> OnceMe: how big is "/" ?
[16:57] <OnceMe> Size is 28G of /
[16:57] <OnceMe> 26G is used
[16:57] <EriC^> that seems fair
[16:57] <OnceMe> but im not sure for what
[16:57] <OnceMe> can I move some files to /home or something
[16:58] <s10gopal>  #ubuntu-java is dead ?
 s10gopal: ufortunately, it's #ubuntu's problem. Java is working fine; you need to figure out how to get java 8 installed IN UBUNTU.
[16:58] <s10gopal> can you plz help me ?
[16:59] <s10gopal> it is ubuntu problem
[16:59] <nacc> s10gopal: you were told. if you need a more recent java, upgrade ubuntu.
[16:59] <OnceMe> s10gopal: why dont you use docker?
[16:59] <OnceMe> who these days install anythingn on their native os hosts? everything's on docker
[16:59] <compdoc> OnceMe, there's program named Disk Usage Analyzer that can help
[17:00] <s10gopal> OnceMe, what is it ?
[17:00] <OnceMe> check #docker or docker.com
[17:00] <s10gopal> nacc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[17:01] <akik> s10gopal: you can download the different java versions www.java.com
[17:01] <s10gopal> akik, i need JVM
[17:01] <s10gopal> akik, how  to install JVM on ubuntu 14.04 ? i am installing a software and getting  "Version 1.7.0_151 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.8 or greater is required.
[17:02] <timhines> hello, I am having an issue with cups on Ubuntu 17.10  - in cups.  printing the test page works.  everything else says this "canceled at Thu 15 Feb 2018 10:35:36 AM CST  "Bad value (0) for orientation-requested, using 0 degrees" in cups job page
[17:02] <timhines> i have tried to repackage cups, reinstall printer, ec.
[17:02] <ducasse> s10gopal: seriously, stop posting that bug here
[17:02] <timhines> any help is much appreciated
[17:03] <s10gopal> ducasse, they are suggesting to upgrade to ubuntu 16
[17:04] <OnceMe> s10gopal: get jre
[17:04] <OnceMe> jvm is included with jre
[17:04] <oerheks> agin: you might want to look in the webupd8 ppa on that page.. that gives oracle java6/7/8/9
[17:04] <OnceMe> it should be hotspot by default
[17:05] <OnceMe> or just get a docker and have java8 9 or 10 with the one command
[17:06] <timhines> that's me - a real person
[17:07] <s10gopal> docker.com is not working
[17:07] <csst0222> Hi, lately my laptop with ubuntu 16.04 has two problems : i) when pressing System > Shut down it hangs and I have to press the hardware button and ii) every time it boots it displays some "recovering journal"  info and takes about 15seconds until it displays the login screen
[17:08] <csst0222> Any ideas what to do ? Thanks!
[17:09] <timhines> anybody had luck with cups in 17.10?
[17:12] <s10gopal> OnceMe, how?
[17:13] <akik> s10gopal: export JAVA_HOME=/where/you/put/it/jre1.8.0_161
[17:16] <kerv> I'm pretty sure this infinite loop of ubuntu directories should not be happening... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[17:17] <nacc> kerv: yes it should
[17:18] <kerv> oh yeah? any reason why my apt-get update is filled with a whole bunch of this?
[17:18] <kerv> Err:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty Release
[17:18] <kerv>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.161 80]
[17:18] <nacc> !eol | kerv
[17:19] <nacc> kerv: 17.04 went eol a while ago now
[17:19] <kerv> ahh, this is some strange bitbucket pipeline image - i'll investigate
[17:19] <kerv> thanks
[17:21] <OnceMe> well EriC^/lib 11G /usr/ 10G
[17:22] <OnceMe> and all other partitions a bit and thats it
[17:22] <OnceMe> I lost space for nothing
[17:22] <OnceMe> hmm I need to reformat partitions and move from home to /
[17:22] <OnceMe> is there a safe way to do that? :D
[17:22] <OnceMe> s10gopal: ask in #docker
[17:22] <s10gopal> ok thx
[17:23] <OnceMe> but once you install a docker, in cli you literally type "docker run --name java9 -itd openjdk:9"
[17:23] <OnceMe> and then docker exec -it java9 bash
[17:23] <OnceMe> and you are inside of interactive shell from where you can do whatever you want, type java -version etc
[17:23] <OnceMe> you can even port forward, mount volumes for your app etc etc
[17:27] <MDTech-us_MAN> Hello
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> MDTech-us_MAN: welcome, what can we do for you
[17:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> When I run some kind of compiled python I get this error:
[17:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> ImportError: /opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmGetDevice
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> MDTech-us_MAN: any reason you not using the python from ubuntu repos?
[17:30] <nacc> or what do you mean by 'compiled python', MDTech-us_MAN
[17:30] <MDTech-us_MAN> its a closed source program distributed in a single binary
[17:31] <oerheks> binairy .. so how could we fix that?
[17:31] <nacc> seems like not an ubuntu issue then :)
[17:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> the problem is with the libraries
[17:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> ImportError: /opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: drmGetDevice
[17:31] <nacc> MDTech-us_MAN: libraries not from ubuntu as well
[17:32] <nacc> MDTech-us_MAN: those are from amdgpu-pro and in /opt (which is not in the purview of ubuntu packages generally)
[17:32] <oerheks> Without proper info, no use for use to took online for simular issues
[17:32] <oerheks> c/took/look
[17:40] <joan_> Buenas tardes. Soy nuevo en linux, llevo 5 días y uffff, no me aclaro a la hora de instalar programas mas allá de las de repositorio. Conoceis algún post o curso que ayude...Gracias
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> !es | joan_
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> joan_: in english, we can help you here
[17:47] <lupulo> hi
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> lupulo: welcome, how can we help you?
[18:25] <lupulo> lotuspsychje, no thanks.
[18:32] <kajover> hi... is there an app that lets me remotely connect to the file explorer in ubuntu? somehing like DS file on a synology NAS?
[18:33] <lupulo> kajover, nautilus can connect like client remotely
[18:34] <JimBunbtu> kajover, do you mean a phone/tablet app?
[18:34] <kajover> yes, I meant a phone app
[18:35] <kajover> remote app for nautilus
[18:35] <JimBunbtu> kajover, ES File Explorer?
[18:36] <kajover> yes but connecting to ubuntu remotely
[18:36] <JimBunbtu> kajover, right, using the "network" option in ES File Explorer... you can sftp
[18:36] <lupulo> kajover,https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/nautilus-connect.html.en  Types of servers
[18:36] <kajover> oh, thanks. and do you have a recommendation for ios?
[18:37] <kajover> I guess any SFTP app?
[18:37] <JimBunbtu> kajover, probably
[18:37] <lupulo> kajover, search gftp alternatives for phone app.
[18:38] <michael2> hi, does anyone know to make the program which remembers my ssh key password - forget that password?
[18:40] <lupulo> michael2, https://askubuntu.com/questions/566842/ssh-keys-from-usb-stick
[18:40] <JimBunbtu> michael2, `ssh-add --help`
[18:42] <michael2> JimBunbtu: is ssh-add or ssh agent the program remembering my ssh password - I dont think it is?
[18:43] <frikinz> Hi. What is best to connect graphically to a ubuntu 17.10, performance wise ?
[18:43] <frikinz> The client is debian.
[18:43] <JimBunbtu> I thought is was the agent that remembers them. I use a ~/.ssh/config file myself.
[18:43] <frikinz> remote* connection
[18:44] <JimBunbtu> michael2, as in, I manually edit it and don't have any actual passwords, only keys.
[18:44] <JimBunbtu> michael2, Yes, looks like that's the agent in question.
[18:45] <leftyfb> frikinz: try teamviwer
[18:45] <leftyfb> reamviewer*
[18:45] <frikinz> leftyfb: ok teamviewer :)
[18:46] <JimBunbtu> Doesn't 17.10 have the desktop sharing feature built in?
[18:46] <frikinz> leftyfb: I tried x11vnc and xthightvnc client, it needs 5s to show my keypress on a LAN
[18:46] <frikinz> vino?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: be carefull with vnc as its a security risk, vnc over ssh instead
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !vnc
[18:47] <frikinz> lotuspsychje: I'm on a LAN. The problem is performance.
[18:48] <frikinz> on *my* LAN rather
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: performance how?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: are you on wayland or xorg?
[18:48] <frikinz> lotuspsychje: it takes 5s to see my keypress, the same for mouse clicks
[18:49] <frikinz> lotuspsychje: the ubuntu host is a default installation
[18:49]  * skatetensor salutes
[18:49] <frikinz> so is the debian client from where I want to connect
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: can you try it from the xorg session plz?
[18:50] <frikinz> /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[18:50] <frikinz> So both are running Xorg
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> kk
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: perhaps try what JimBunbtu suggested or teamviewer or remmina?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> frikinz: or do your work over ssh?
[18:51] <frikinz> I'll try different settings on vnc before trying other things. I've used it years ago from windows to linux and it was very fast. Maybe I have to enable some protocol or encoding.
[18:51] <frikinz> lotuspsychje: no ssh tunneling for VNC
[18:52] <skatetensor> frikinz: why do you need a GUI?
[18:53] <skatetensor>  i mean ssh via terminal is the fastest ^^
[18:53] <frikinz> skatetensor: just received this box but don't have a video cable yet :/ while it works fine with ssh, well, I'd like to see something... less dark :)
[18:54] <frikinz> cable comes on Saturday and I ran out of patience already :)
[18:54] <frikinz> Anyway, thanks all for your answers
[18:54] <skatetensor> frikinz: perso, i use team viewer for linux-win10 , hope it helps
[18:55] <frikinz> Yes teamviewer works nice, even over WAN o_O
[18:55] <frikinz> Ok, convinced, I can be bothered to tweak vnc
[19:01] <skatetensor> Does anyones have tried enlightement on ubuntu/debian?
[19:01] <JimBunbtu> I use X over SSH, works fine for LAN.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !info e17 | skatetensor
[19:04] <andresco70> hola a todos
[19:04] <EriC^^> !es | andresco70
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !es | andresco70
[19:04] <andresco70> que finalidad tiene este chat?
[19:09] <lubuntu-help> hi
[19:09] <EriC^^> hi
[19:10] <lubuntu-help> I want to access my hdd by using a live usb but it won't show up in file manager.
[19:10] <lubuntu-help> :(
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu-help: have you tryed /mnt or /media ?
[19:12] <EriC^^> lubuntu-help: does 'sudo parted -ls' show it?
[19:13] <DiecastMessiah> lubuntu-help, may need to mount the hdd if you cannot see it in /mnt or /media ..
[19:14] <lubuntu-help> i tried sudo fdisk -l
[19:14] <lubuntu-help> it shows then
[19:16] <oerheks> if it is exfat, you need to install 2 tools
[19:17] <EriC^^> lubuntu-help: get the name of the partition and run 'sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt'
[19:17] <EriC^^> then the files will be in /mnt
[19:18] <lubuntu-help> https://goo.gl/b34E31  << the code
[19:19] <cpcat> hi
[19:20] <akik> lubuntu-help: what code?
[19:20] <lubuntu-help> mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
[19:20] <akik> lubuntu-help: you don't seem to have any partitions there
[19:21] <cpcat> I'm on ubuntu trusty, 14.04 what's the proper way to date python 2.7.6 to the latest python 2.7.x ?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !latest | cpcat
[19:21] <cpcat> err proper way to update python
[19:21] <cpcat> well the latest ubuntu has
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> cpcat: we dont reccomend mix package versions
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> cpcat: best to stick with package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[19:22] <cpcat> so trust has only this one version?
[19:22] <cpcat> what's the python package name for under apt-get ?
[19:22] <lubuntu-help> idk what happened. I was running lubuntu fine just a week ago but then suddenly one day it didn't boot into the OS and instead showed a busybox with initramfs
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> cpcat: unless you want to experiment with pinning or backports
[19:24] <akik> lubuntu-help: there's an app called testdisk which you can use to search for partitions
[19:24] <nacc> cpcat: yes, python in trusty is at 2.7.5-5ubuntu3, to be exact
[19:24] <nacc> cpcat: why do you need the latest 2.7?
[19:25] <lubuntu-help> I have gparted and disks 2 tools that came with this Live USB
[19:25] <akik> lubuntu-help: neither of which is testdisk?
[19:26] <akik> lubuntu-help: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[19:27] <cpcat> I get these warnings when I pip install authorizenet --->  http://codepad.org/Xzz1NYjE
[19:29] <lubuntu-help> ok so i have testdisk
[19:29] <lubuntu-help> does it only run in the terminal? no interface?
[19:30] <dell> hi
[19:30] <akik> lubuntu-help: yes, terminal interface: sudo -i testdisk
[19:30] <Dexan> ehhie
[19:31] <cpcat> nacc  I get these warnings when I pip install authorizenet --->  http://codepad.org/Xzz1NYjE
[19:31] <nacc> cpcat: yeah, i don't think that's going to get fixed on trusty
[19:31] <nacc> cpcat: i think it's LP: #1299075
[19:32] <akik> lubuntu-help: you can quit the app with 'q'
[19:32] <nacc> cpcat: i woudl suggest setting up a newer env, or mmove to python3?
[19:32] <akik> lubuntu-help: it goes back to the main menu
[19:32] <lubuntu-help> ok so do I create a new log? append? no log?
[19:32] <akik> lubuntu-help: create a log, sure
[19:34] <lubuntu-help> http://codepad.org/zQ9xz6fD   so I should continue?
[19:35] <akik> lubuntu-help: sorry, no idea what that means
[19:37] <akik> lubuntu-help: read this, seems to be talking about the same error: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2361763
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> nacc cpcat would pypy snap be usefull in this case?
[19:37] <akik> lubuntu-help: sorry there was no reply there :P
[19:37] <antonm> Hi
[19:37] <EriC^^> "HPA can be used by various booting and diagnostic utilities, normally in conjunction with the BIOS. An example of this implementation is the Phoenix FirstBIOS, which uses Boot Engineering Extension Record (BEER) and Protected Area Run Time Interface Extension Services (PARTIES)" i sense a theme :D
[19:37] <nacc> lotuspsychje: dunno
[19:38] <lubuntu-help> XD
[19:38] <lubuntu-help> lol
[19:38] <akik> heh
[19:39] <akik> EriC^^: do you think the disk has hidden lubuntu-help's partitions for some reason?
[19:39] <EriC^^> nah
[19:40] <akik> there's a hdparm command here showing how to remove it: https://forum.cgsecurity.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3734
[19:40] <akik> i have _never_ needed to use that
[19:46] <EriC^^> lubuntu-help: try "sudo mount -o offset=$((2048 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt"
[19:48] <lubuntu-help> Ooof
[19:48] <lubuntu-help> I thought I was onto something
[19:49] <lubuntu-help> http://codepad.org/gXuP6ilM
[19:49] <lubuntu-help> ^^ that shows
[19:50] <akik> lubuntu-help: probably missing the /dev/sda device. but try that EriC^^'s mount command first
[19:52] <lubuntu-help> which command was it?
[19:52] <EriC^^> lubuntu-help: try "sudo mount -o offset=$((2048 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt"
[19:52] <cpcat> How can I upgrade ubuntu and all of its packages on the command line so I don't have to use a cdrom?
[19:53] <EriC^^> cpcat: sudo do-release-upgrade     , assuming you want to go from 16.10 to 17.04 and such
[19:53] <cpcat> EriC^^ I'm on 14
[19:53] <EriC^^> cpcat: what are you trying to do exactly?
[19:53] <EriC^^> aha, you want to go to 16.04?
[19:53] <cpcat> sure.
[19:53] <akik> lubuntu-help: that assumes that there is a partition starting at sector 2048 of /dev/sda
[19:53] <cpcat> if that's the latest stable yes.
[19:53] <Page22> hi boy
[19:54] <EriC^^> cpcat: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:54] <cpcat> thanks
[19:54] <EriC^^> cpcat: then run sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:54] <EriC^^> cpcat: also make sure Prompt=lts in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:55] <lubuntu-help> :|
[19:55] <EriC^^> cpcat: np
[19:56] <lubuntu-help> it showed /dev/sda is already mounted.
[19:56] <lubuntu-help> weird
[19:56] <lubuntu-help> brb let me reboot. I did some shit with the testdisk
[20:08] <cpcat> EriC^^  yup thanks
[20:08] <Tulitomaatti> can a preseed file for automated installation be generated from an installed system? i.e. get a preseed file by poking around and seeing what some already-installed system looks like.
[20:09] <nacc> Tulitomaatti: look at `debconf-get-selections`
[20:09] <nacc> but note not everything can be preseeded iirc
[20:11] <oerheks> nacc +1 https://askubuntu.com/questions/595826/how-to-create-ubuntu-installation-preseed-file
[20:12] <nacc> ah yes the --installer flag would sovle that issue
[20:12] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/s390x/apbs03.html
[20:12] <oerheks> there is a test too, if it works
[20:12] <Tulitomaatti> thanks > nacc oerheks
[20:12] <nacc> Tulitomaatti: yw
[20:45] <dominix> hi there
[20:46] <dominix> what kind of key should I use to permit ssh with no password from one machine to another (on ubuntu xenial)
[20:46] <lordcirth_work> dominix, rsa is the default and most widely supported.  ed25519 is the newest.
[20:46] <dominix> I'v tried wiith ed25519 with no success
[20:47] <lordcirth_work> Both sides are xenial?
[20:47] <oerheks> dominix, rsa or dsa, your choise .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:47] <dominix> ssh -i .ssh/id_ed25519  mymachine    it  ask for password
[20:47] <lordcirth_work> dominix, and did you add the key on the server?
[20:48] <oerheks> did you disable password on the service?
[20:48] <oerheks> ( serverside, that is)
[20:48] <lordcirth_work> ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_ed25519  mymachine
[20:48] <leftyfb> oerheks: disable the password only after you confirm the key is working :)
[20:51] <dominix> yes it is copied, and the key is in .ssh/authorized_keys
[20:51] <dominix> I am able to connect to mymachine from home with an ssh-agent but not from a locallan machine (with no agent)
[20:52] <dominix> I have PermitRootLogin without-password
[20:54] <lordcirth_work> dominix, are the permissions on .ssh and .ssh/authorized_keys correct?
[20:54] <dominix> lordcirth_work: yes
[20:54] <nacc> dominix: are you sure it's not asking for the password for the key?
[20:54] <nacc> dominix: given you are not running an agent
[20:55] <dominix> .ssh is 700 .ssh/authorized_keys is 600
[20:55] <oerheks> good find, nacc
[20:55] <dominix> it is a key with no password
[20:55] <lordcirth_work> Did you copy the pubkey manually or with ssh-copy-id?
[20:56] <dominix> with ssh-copy-id
[20:56] <dominix> I can see the .pub on the remote
[20:56] <dominix> I mean the signature on authorized_keys
[20:57] <TJ-> dominix: is the 'far end' using encrypted home directory?
[20:57] <lordcirth_work> oh, right
[20:57] <dominix> TJ-: no
[20:57] <lordcirth_work> ssh -vvv ?
[21:00] <dominix> debug1: Skipping ssh-ed25519 key /root/.ssh/id_ed25519 - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes
[21:00] <dominix> what TF
[21:01] <lordcirth_work> there you go.  Check /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server
[21:01] <TJ-> dominix: you're connecting to the /root/ user on the remote?
[21:02] <dominix> yes, it is for a script to transfert netfilter list of IP address
[21:02] <nacc> ssh -Q key will tell you what keys are supported
[21:02] <cpcat> hello
[21:02] <dominix> option requires an argument -- Q
[21:03] <fx250_> I see in /etc/fstab uuid=7428-dc24 for an efi partition.  How can I output the serial number of /dev/sda1 to validate that the uuid matches in a script?
[21:03] <Guest42564> hello. Could I get some help with my ubuntu distro? It won't connect to the internet
[21:03] <lordcirth_work> !details | Guest42564
[21:03] <dominix> @fx250 blkid
[21:04] <dominix> fx250: blkid
[21:05] <Guest42564> Yum. I have an ethernet cord plugged into my Ubuntu 16.04 distro and when I run sudo dhclient, nothing happens. When I run sudo /etc/init.d/networking start, nothing happens
[21:06] <Guest42564> A little more background info, running sudo ifconfig shows my ethernet as enp5s0 with no ip address
[21:07] <fx250_> dominix, Thanks.  I was trying, and output was blank, but it seems that it doesn't work from a chrooted environment.
[21:07] <TJ-> fx250_: it will work from chroot, but only if you've bind-mounted /dev into it first
[21:08] <fx250_> ah right
[21:09] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, Ubuntu desktop or server install?
[21:10] <lordcirth_work> dominix, he said 'ssh -Q key' not 'ssh -Q'
[21:10] <lordcirth_work> Works for me
[21:12] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: Desktop
[21:13] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, Desktop comes with Network Manager by default.  Most easily accessed through the icon on the toolbar.
[21:14] <dominix> ok it is PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes thath have to be inserted in local .ssh/config
[21:14] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: if I click on the icon, I get grayed out Ethernet Network device not managed which is weird
[21:14] <dominix> PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes ssh-ed25519
[21:15] <lordcirth_work> dominix, it should have worked automatically, are you sure you didn't change anything / upgrade in place?
[21:17] <gaunledream> Hi everyone, my wireless is having problem as of late. It keeps on turning off itself - and shows me error Could not load the [0] ucode section
[21:17] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, ok, so you could just configure /etc/network/interfaces how you want it, probably just dhcp?
[21:17] <gaunledream> would appreciate the help
[21:17] <lordcirth_work> gaunledream, what model of wifi card?
[21:18] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: yeah I tried adding auto enp5s0 \n iface enp5s0 inet dhcp to that file but no luck
[21:18] <gaunledream> Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev ff)
[21:18] <DiecastMessiah> gaunledream,  hardware into unbuntu flavor and version will help
[21:19] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, does /var/log/syslog say anything about it?  What about 'systemctl restart networking'?
[21:21] <fx250_> Is there a way I can use bash scripting to handle changing the uuid using tune2fs of the root partition from within an environment using root partition, maybe by triggering a script to run on reboot?
[21:22] <lordcirth_work> fx250_, are you trying to differentiate images on first boot or something?
[21:22] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: yes, /var/log/syslog says dhcpdiscover on enp5s0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 on interval ... many times
[21:23] <fx250_> lordcirth_work, I'm trying to prepare a script for handling system updates to make the UUIDs the same across all systems
[21:23] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, ok, so it is trying to DHCP but getting no response.  Sure all the cable is plugged in properly, and your router is running DHCP
[21:23] <lordcirth_work> fx250_, UUIDs aren't supposed to be the same.  What is the purpose?
[21:24] <fx250_> lordcirth_work, Using clonezilla to mirror images across several disks, all of the uuids are the same.
[21:24] <fx250_> same with partimage, which clonezilla is based on
[21:24] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: Yes and yes
[21:24] <gaunledream> DiecastMessiah: did not get what you meant :)(
[21:25] <Guest42564> lordcirth_work: but pinging the router address gives me Network is unreachable
[21:25] <hektabyte> Hey guys, is it possible to select which to record when using th screencast feature (ctrl + shift + alt + r)?
[21:25] <hektabyte> which screen*
[21:26] <fx250_> lordcirth_work, Are you sure that UUIDs are not supposed to be the same?  I'm just curious about this.
[21:26] <hektabyte> I apologize for the typos, cheap Genesis keyboard. :|
[21:26] <lordcirth_work> fx250_, Universal Unique ID.  It's in the name.
[21:27] <lordcirth_work> Not to say that standards can't be broken for a good reason
[21:27] <lordcirth_work> hektabyte, which screencast program is this?
[21:27] <hektabyte> Honestlly, I have no idea. It's activated by pressing "ctrl + shift + alt + r". I'll look it up.
[21:28] <lordcirth_work> Guest42564, do you have ssh access to your router?  Personally I would tcpdump on that side and see if the Discover packets are arriving.
[21:28] <hektabyte> lordcirth_work it comes by default with Ubuntu 17.10.
[21:28] <lordcirth_work> hektabyte, oh ok.  Here on 16.04 that shortcut doesn't exist
[21:29] <zman9494> lordcirth_work: sorry. Got disconnected real quick. I'm guest whatever the number was
[21:29] <hektabyte> Ah, so it must be gnome related.
[21:29] <lordcirth_work> zman9494, do you have ssh access to your router?  Personally I would tcpdump on that side and see if the Discover packets are arriving.
[21:30] <zman9494> lordcirth_work: I'm not sure, but on any other computer I'm able to access the internet using that ethernet cord in that connection to that router
[21:34] <zman9494> lordcirth_work: something that could be affecting it is that my wifi has a sign in page when you first connect to it. Maybe that's blocking my dhcpdiscovers?
[21:34] <donofrio> what does this mean is wrong with my video - both displays connected to same desktop running ubuntu 16.04 https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoL8zcF9pcpuoE1_7PQ
[21:34] <lordcirth_work> zman9494, shouldn't be, captive portals normally work by intercepting DNS
[21:34] <donofrio> (skip ununneded onedrive login)
[21:35] <hektabyte> lordcirth_work It's a Gnome extension - media keys. I'll just install recordMyDesktop to avoid the hassle of configuring it.
[21:35] <zman9494> Is it an issue that my wired connection is "unmanaged"?
[21:38] <lordcirth_work> zman9494, only if you didn't do that.  I configured mine manually in /etc/network/interfaces here.  But if you didn't intend to, probably
[21:39] <michael2> does anyone know what the default program is that holds your SSH private key password when you use SSH or do a git push operation?
[21:39] <leftyfb> michael2: ssh-agent
[21:40] <zman9494> lordcirth_work: I'd prefer that I don't do it manually. I manually added the lines to /etc/network/interfaces to attempt to get a dhcp connection, but that's it
[21:40] <zman9494> I also tried using a fresh install off a usb but I couldn't connect there either
[21:40] <leftyfb> michael2: seahorse is the gnome util that unlocks it at boot
[21:42] <hektabyte> Alright, see you guys later!
[21:42] <DiecastMessiah> zman if you look in the back around the nic port is there a light on??
[21:43] <DiecastMessiah> I remember years ago i had to run a command to get the card powered up after booting
[21:44] <chg1> help
[21:44] <michael2> leftyfb: are you sure its ssh-agent? I know ssh-agent can do it . but I thought there was a more "universal" program that stored passphrases - something like gnome-keyring-daemon?
[21:44] <DiecastMessiah> i forget the command but just saying in my case there was a light during boot.. but once boot into ubuntu it turned off
[21:45] <michael2> leftyfb: or maybe its the seahorse program you mentioned?
[21:46] <leftyfb> michael2: seahorse is the front end to manage gnome-keyring-daemon. This is what gets used on a desktop environment
[21:49] <michael2> leftyfb: yes Im running a desktop with a X server. I would like to manage the - in memory - SSH priv. key passphrases that are being remembered, list them out, remove them, set the default timeout time etc. can I use seahorse for this?
[21:50] <leftyfb> you cannot list out passphrases, only keys that are part of the agent
[21:51] <leftyfb> michael2: use ssh-add -l to list them, use -d to remove individual identities, -D to remove all identities
[21:51] <leftyfb> michael2: also, man ssh-add :)
[21:52] <michael2> leftyfb: I know a program wont likely show the actual passwords, but I was thinking it may show the identity, similiar to ssh-add -l ( but that is juust a `ls ~/.ssh` more or less,right?)
[21:53] <fx250_> When I run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg2 it generates almost identical contents except it's missing menuentry 'System setup' ... { fwsetup }
[21:53] <leftyfb> michael2: the ssh-add flags I posted above talks to the running key agent
[21:54] <leftyfb> michael2: nothing in .ssh will tell you what identities are loaded
[21:54] <michael2> leftyfb: do you know what the program is that ssh-add (with the flags you mentioned) actually talks to?
[21:55] <leftyfb> especially since you can load an ssh key from any location
[21:55] <leftyfb> michael2: my guess is whatever ssh agent is running. In your case would be gnome-keyring-daemon
[21:57] <troozers> Hi all, n00b question; set a static ip address in Ubuntu 17.10 via GUI, where can I specify search domains?
[21:57] <NoIdea> Anyone here?
[21:57] <michael2> leftyfb: do you know of a command to get ssh-add  to tell you what program is acting as the "backend" to ssh-add?
[21:58] <leftyfb> michael2: maybe look in man ssh. But why do you need to know this so bad?
[21:58] <leftyfb> er, man ssh-add
[21:59] <NoIdea> Not sure if this is the rightg place to ask, but it's the only active Linux IRC channel I know of:  I'm having a problem with the spellchecker in GEdit.
[22:00] <leftyfb> NoIdea: what version of ubuntu?
[22:00] <michael2> leftyfb: Im trying to manage my ssh keys - and to me identitfying the program which is storing the passphrases seems essential knowledge
[22:00] <NoIdea> leftyfb: Trusty Tahr.
[22:01] <leftyfb> michael2: to manage your keys, just use ssh-add to add/delete keys realtime. To manage what gets unlocked at boot, use seahorse
[22:04] <NoIdea> The spellchecker doesn't understand apostrohpes, so when I type something liked "didn't" it'll tell me there';s no such word as "didn".  I looked it up and it seems this is supposed to have been fixed in recent versions, but I've been looking in Synaptic (which I've just learned how to use) and it says GEdit is up to date, at version 3.10.4-0ubuntu4
[22:04] <michael2> leftyfb: thanks. that gives me a launch point to go from . I might run strace ssh-add to try and see what prgram it talks to
[22:05] <leftyfb> michael2: echo $SSH_AUTH_SOCK
[22:05] <NoIdea> I read that the spellchecker is from a separate package caled Enchant, but Synaptic says that's up to date too, at least all the pacages that are installed at all.  Any idea what if anything I need to update to make it do it?
[22:06] <leftyfb> NoIdea: gedit probably hasn't been updated in trust in a long time since it's almost 4 years old now. You should upgraded to 16.04 and be prepared to upgrade to 18.04 in April
[22:06] <NoIdea> Is it indeed true that that bug ought to be fixed in recent versiions?  Can anyone confirm?
[22:06] <leftyfb> NoIdea: up to date in a distro means it has the latest version available in that distro/release. Not that it's the latest version of that project
[22:07] <NoIdea> Well, I have health problems and it's extremely hard work for me to get used to a new OS version so that's... a nuclear optionn.
[22:08] <NoIdea> Technically what I have isn't Ubuntu but  a spin-off called Zorin, but it is a slightly out-of-date version of Zorin.
[22:08] <nacc> lol
[22:08] <nacc> NoIdea: so you're in the wrong support channel, and not current for that unsupported thing either?
[22:09] <NoIdea> Zorin's channel hasn't had anyone in it ever since I've known it.
[22:09] <nacc> NoIdea: that's not exactly relevant
[22:10] <NoIdea> This is the only active Linux IRC channel I know, if you can do better please say so.
[22:10] <nacc> NoIdea: this is the *ubuntu* support channel
[22:10] <nacc> NoIdea: there is also #linux and there are many others here and on OFTC
[22:10] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, what is the output of the command `lsb_release -a` ?
[22:10] <NoIdea> On what?  Never heard of that channel, if it's meant to be a channel.
[22:11] <NoIdea> *I mena network.
[22:11] <Bashing-om> NoIdea: general linux support try the ##linux channel .
[22:11] <NoIdea> *I mean mean.  :-D
[22:11] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, if you run `lsb_release -a` in your shell what does it say?
[22:11] <nacc> NoIdea: i mean, gain, it's not our fault if you don't know about other channels
[22:11] <nacc> s/gain/again/.
[22:12] <nacc> NoIdea: *maybe* if your Zorin support experience has been so poor, you should consider installing stock Ubuntu.
[22:12] <yosefrow__> nacc, if zorin is just abunch of cosmetics over ubuntu it doesnt really matter imo
[22:12] <yosefrow__> its still ubuntu
[22:12] <NoIdea> see: above comments about health problems.
[22:12] <yosefrow__> That's why I told him to do lsb_release
[22:12] <nacc> yosefrow__: it does matter.
[22:13] <nacc> yosefrow__: please understsand, only ubuntu and official flavors are supported here
[22:13] <nacc> NoIdea: and again, not relevant.
[22:13] <NoIdea> Bashing-om: tyvm.  I see people.  Will remember that.
[22:13] <yosefrow__> nacc, If I install Ubuntu and add a new theme and call it a custom flavor, am I no longer eligble for support?
[22:13] <nacc> NoIdea: i'm sorry for you that that is the case, but that doesn't mean you get to be offtopic
[22:14] <NoIdea> ...why not when three separate people seem quite happy to answer my question?
[22:14] <yosefrow__> s/eligble/eligible/
[22:14] <nacc> yosefrow__: if you don't like the channels policies, please take it up with the community council (I think that's the right place)
[22:14] <nacc> NoIdea: because it's offtopic, do you understand that?
[22:14] <yosefrow__> nacc, I asked an honest question. Please give me an honest answer.
[22:15] <nacc> yosefrow__: if you installed a third party theme and the third party theme is broken and you asked for support here, you would not get it
[22:15] <nacc> yosefrow__: if that is all you changed, and the question is about soething from ubuntu, it would be ontopic.
[22:15] <nacc> yosefrow__: use some logic.
[22:15] <NoIdea> I understand what offtopic is.  I don't understand why you are so busy lambasting me for doing something that nnobody invilved aopppears to mind.
[22:15] <nacc> yosefrow__: zorin is a totally separate distribution, not a cosmetic change, afaik
[22:16] <yosefrow__> nacc, that's what I was trying to figure out
[22:16] <NoIdea> Yosefrow__: belated response - "lsb_release -a" does this:
[22:16] <nacc> yosefrow__: right, and again, that's not up to this channel's volunteers to figure out
[22:16] <yosefrow__> nacc, fair enough
[22:16] <NoIdea> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Zorin Description:	Zorin OS 9 Release:	9 Codename:	trusty
[22:17] <nacc> yosefrow__: that's my opinion, admittedly
[22:17] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, sorry but your distribution has been relabeled, so its probably not just a cosmetic change.
[22:18] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, I want to help you, but this channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:18] <NoIdea> Translatte, just for interest?
[22:18] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, in Ubuntu it would have said Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:18] <mragy> i cant use code blocks
[22:18] <NoIdea> I mean, I'm assuming "relabelled" doesn't just mean "it has a name of its own"?
[22:18] <NoIdea> ah, gotcha.
[22:19] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, but it doesnt say that, which means we can't help you here. Sorry man
[22:19] <mragy> the program say  (Scanning for lexers in /usr/share/codeblocks/lexers/...
[22:19] <mragy> Found 53 lexers
[22:19] <mragy> Loading lexer_A68k
[22:19] <mragy> Loading lexer_OgreCompositor
[22:19] <mragy> Loading lexer_OgreMaterial
[22:19] <mragy> Loading lexer_ada
[22:19] <nacc> mragy: please use a pastebin
[22:20] <nacc> mragy: also, what is 'code blocks'?
[22:20] <yosefrow__> nacc, He was quieted, not sure if he can chat here anymore
[22:20] <tgm4883> nacc: it's an IDE I believe
[22:20] <nacc> yosefrow__: i know, they'll respond when they can :)
[22:20] <yosefrow__> nacc, is there a set timeout on quiet?
[22:20] <mragy> Loading lexer_nsis
[22:20] <mragy> Loading lexer_objc
[22:20] <mragy> Loading lexer_pascal
[22:20] <nacc> yosefrow__: yes :)
[22:20] <mragy> Loading lexer_perl
[22:20] <mragy> Loading lexer_postscript
[22:20] <nacc> but they're going to trip it again
[22:21] <yosefrow__> :P
[22:21] <NoIdea> OK, and nacc, just a tip: if you don't want a an argument on your hands right from the start, don't begin your remarks with "lol"  ;-)
[22:21] <NoIdea> I'll go see what #linux has to say.
[22:22] <yosefrow__> its ##linux
[22:22] <yosefrow__> not #linux
[22:22] <nacc> NoIdea: tbh, I actually did, because you leftyb was helping you, in thie Ubuntu support channel and then you admitted to not using Ubuntu. It comes across as intentionally deceptive.
[22:22] <nacc> yosefrow__: it redirects, as well
[22:22] <yosefrow__> nacc, ok cool
[22:22] <nacc> yosefrow__: (at least when i just checked)
[22:22] <yosefrow__> nacc, I didnt think he was trying to fool anyone, just trying his luck :P
[22:23] <NoIdea> Least I now know that not all versions of programs apply to all versions of Ubuntu.  (Or whatever we're calling it.)
[22:23] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, if you decide to use stock ubuntu, we would be happy to help you install it and with any issues you may have with the distro
[22:23] <yosefrow__> NoIdea, also if you have a problem with a specific program with say inkscape for example, you can try /join #inkscape
[22:24] <NoIdea> I tried to find a #gedit on Gnome's network but there wasn't one.
[22:24] <yosefrow__> try /join #gnome ?
[22:25] <yosefrow__> over 200 ppl there
[22:27] <NoIdea> correctiton: there IS a #gedit and also a #gnome, I find now I try it with /join, it's just that for some reason Mibbit does not list them in its list. Well, I've learnt a second thing: do not trust Mibbit's list.  :-D
[22:28] <NoIdea> (I'm new to Mibbit, I used ChatZilla until recently but ChatZilla's gone.)
[22:30] <mity> hi there if i run the command /etc/init.d/AccessServer stop | start it works, but if i run the command service AccessServer stop | start it does not work.  what am i doing wrong ? thank you
[22:31] <oerheks> Noldcomplain in #zorinos, about mibbit, as it is not in our repos :-D
[22:45] <troozers> Where in the name of all things holy do you specify extra domain searches within Ubuntu 17.10?
[22:45] <troozers> I've set a static IP within the GUI, but can't find where you define the domain-search options
[22:54] <ehiggs> I'm running apt-get update in a Dockerfile based on 16.04 but I'm told that Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[22:55] <ehiggs> this SO page suggests that this has happened when the release is too old, but 16.04 is LTS and still ok afaict.
[22:55] <ehiggs> https://askubuntu.com/questions/352864/apt-get-update-not-working-not-found-ip-91-189-92-201-80
[22:57] <oerheks> troozers, i think you need to add it to '/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base' ( not /etc/resolv.conf)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1684854/comments/8
[22:57] <ehiggs> oops. fix was to build with --no-cache
[23:00] <troozers> I kinda tried with the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf/base, but it seemed to corrupt /etc/resolv.conf once I restarted the service
[23:02] <oerheks> short domains also don't work. Only FQDNs.
[23:10] <donofrio> what does this mean is wrong with my video - both displays connected to same desktop running ubuntu 16.04 https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoL8zcF9pcpuoE1_7PQ
[23:29] <genii> donofrio: NVidia?
[23:31] <genii> ( if so, turn off hardware acceleration )
[23:32] <raidghost> What tool would you recommand for libvirt to create vm and stuff (web interface)
[23:33] <strive> virt-manager
[23:34] <strive> raidghost: ^
[23:34] <DiecastMessiah> donofrio, get a second opinion but maybe try restart in termial .. not 100% but seems to help me out when i have odd video hickups
[23:34] <DiecastMessiah> 'restart'
[23:35] <kenrin> Web UI?  proxmox, ovirt
[23:36] <donofrio> DiecastMessiah, restarts do not resolve this issue.....
[23:36] <DiecastMessiah> kk