| tjaalton | duflu: libinput 1.10 is in unstable | 05:36 |
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| duflu | tjaalton, thanks | 05:36 |
| tjaalton | also, trackpoint on this t470s is still hardly usable | 05:37 |
| duflu | tjaalton, I have no idea about trackpoint, but saw upstream reports about similar | 05:37 |
| tjaalton | yeah I'm subscribed | 05:37 |
| tjaalton | playing with hwdb settings, nothing seems to work too well | 05:37 |
| duflu | tjaalton, at a guess, try hacking libinput to force the acceleration profile = flat | 05:39 |
| duflu | Although that may be a particularly bad idea for trackpoints, not sure | 05:39 |
| duflu | Oh. I forgot I have one on my bionic desktop (Lenovo SK-8855) | 05:40 |
| duflu | tjaalton, I'm seeing jumping on at least one model of touchpad, like it's missing resolution still. Is that what you get with trackpoint? | 05:41 |
| duflu | (this trackpoint feels a bit jumpy too) | 05:42 |
| tjaalton | insensitivity with small movements, and acceleration ramps up way too quickly | 05:47 |
| duflu | tjaalton, yeah I see the former | 05:47 |
| tjaalton | the first can be fixed by moving the slider all way down | 05:47 |
| tjaalton | more or less | 05:47 |
| duflu | tjaalton, the latter I feel has always been true for all trackpoints, IMHO | 05:48 |
| tjaalton | I use a thinkpad usb keyboard on my desktop | 05:48 |
| tjaalton | hardly ever touch a mouse | 05:48 |
| duflu | heretic | 05:49 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:14 |
| jibel | salut oSoMoN | 07:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 07:23 |
| doko | oSoMoN: please see update_excuses for the new binaries | 08:02 |
| doko | lo | 08:02 |
| doko | no on openjdk-9 | 08:04 |
| doko | libreoffice-kde4 libreoffice-sdbc-firebird demoted | 08:04 |
| doko | libboost-locale1.65.1 promoted | 08:07 |
| doko | oSoMoN: and libebubgen needs a MIR | 08:11 |
| ricotz | and fonts-liberation2 | 08:12 |
| didrocks | good morning | 08:16 |
| jibel | morning didrocks | 08:24 |
| oSoMoN | doko, ricotz: so on i386 we want to relax the version requirement for openjdk-8-jre, right? | 09:01 |
| doko | oSoMoN: everywhere, we are unlikely to ship openjdk-8 at all | 09:03 |
| doko | oSoMoN: everywhere, we are unlikely to ship openjdk-9 at all | 09:04 |
| doko | so not shipping 9 | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | ok | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | as it happens a version requirement is specified only on i386, other arches just depend on an unversioned openjdk-8-jre | 09:04 |
| oSoMoN | doko, what's up with openjdk-9, is it going to be removed from the archive? | 09:05 |
| doko | it's a release which is only supported for six months | 09:06 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, does that look correct? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jzqHVfW6Cj/ | 09:13 |
| Nafallo | morning | 10:09 |
| didrocks | hey Nafallo | 10:11 |
| oSoMoN | doko, ricotz: bug #1749920 | 10:17 |
| ubot5 | bug 1749920 in libepubgen (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libepubgen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749920 | 10:17 |
| Nafallo | oooh. duflu causing notifications again ;-) | 10:18 |
| duflu | Nafallo, yep, but now it ends | 10:18 |
| * duflu -> weekend | 10:19 | |
| oSoMoN | hey Nafallo | 10:19 |
| oSoMoN | have a good one duflu | 10:19 |
| duflu | o/ | 10:19 |
| Nafallo | it was a good one at that :-) | 10:20 |
| Nafallo | hi oSoMoN :-) | 10:20 |
| Laney | ah! | 10:52 |
| Nafallo | hi Laney :-) | 10:53 |
| doko | oSoMoN: ta. did the new lo drop visio support (libvisio)? | 11:21 |
| oSoMoN | doko, not that I know of | 11:26 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1010568 | 11:28 |
| ricotz | bbl | 11:28 |
| oSoMoN | thanks ricotz | 11:29 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?id=696b9409c73a1d02c2527dde5ab411ea4c85d4a7 | 11:49 |
| jbicha | good morning | 12:11 |
| jbicha | tjaalton: what's up with packages depending on libgel1 which is in universe? | 12:12 |
| jbicha | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html#gnome-session | 12:12 |
| jbicha | libegl1 | 12:12 |
| * Nafallo stops trying to finding out what libgel does ;-) | 12:13 | |
| Nafallo | no automatic smoother experiences then :-) | 12:13 |
| jbicha | sorry I type too fast some times :( | 12:14 |
| Nafallo | no worries. it was fun :-) | 12:14 |
| oSoMoN | good morning jbicha | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | jbicha: libglvnd MIR filed, but it still needs nvidia packages updated before it all can land | 12:29 |
| jbicha | tjaalton: thanks. Are you working on the nvidia packages for that? tseliot? | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | tseliot is, one to go | 12:33 |
| tseliot | jbicha: yep | 12:33 |
| tseliot | they're almost ready | 12:33 |
| jbicha | cool | 12:34 |
| jbicha | I'm unhappy with Unity. It totally built a few days ago in my test PPA but now it doesn't want to build :( | 13:20 |
| jbicha | https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3156/+packages | 13:20 |
| GunnarHj | Hi Laney, any doubt about | 13:50 |
| GunnarHj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1707898/comments/27 ? | 13:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1707898 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd translations are not synced with upstream" [Medium,In progress] | 13:50 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: Didn't follow the issue closely - you want to avoid build-depending on PK or something | 14:00 |
| Laney | not sure if those things are useful at runtime | 14:00 |
| Laney | why were they in the main pkg in the first place? | 14:00 |
| Laney | don't tell me I did it | 14:00 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: You did it. :) | 14:00 |
| Laney | mmm can't remember the details | 14:01 |
| jbicha | lol | 14:01 |
| Laney | that was last year! | 14:01 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: See comment #24 in bug #1707898. | 14:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1707898 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd translations are not synced with upstream" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1707898 | 14:02 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I'm pretty sure those files are not needed at runtime. | 14:03 |
| Laney | righto, please file it at Debian then (don't forget Breaks+Replaces) | 14:03 |
| Laney | you'll need to fix anything else which Build-Deps on policykit-1 for these rules | 14:04 |
| Laney | fwupd I think | 14:04 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Is there a command to figure out which packages include policykit-1 in Build-Depends? | 14:06 |
| Laney | reverse-depends -b policykit-1 | 14:06 |
| Laney | (ubuntu-dev-tools) | 14:06 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thanks. That list wasn't too long; I'll check them out. Can we use the LP bug as a base for the coming Debian commit? | 14:08 |
| jbicha | Laney: btw, the vcs-git -b thing is documented at https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#version-control-system-vcs-fields | 14:13 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: You can link to it but I think that a bug in the BTS should explain the problem on its own | 14:14 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Ok. | 14:15 |
| Laney | Probably write a short bug explaining and ask if the PK maintainers want to make this change first | 14:15 |
| Laney | Then if they say no, it's not worth making other packages do this change, you haven't spent time writing patches/bugs that aren't needed | 14:15 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thought you were a PK maintainer. ;) This is a pure Debian/Ubuntu thing, right? | 14:16 |
| Laney | yes | 14:17 |
| Laney | and sure, but if it were me I'd add the pk-1 [!stage1] build-dep to systemd and move on with life. :-) | 14:17 |
| Laney | jbicha: nice one | 14:18 |
| Laney | and ... when did the policy get CSS? | 14:18 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: I wrote on the bug report about a less intrusive change: Create the package policykit-1-gettext with only those two files, and let policykit-1 depend on it. Then systemd could add policykit-1-gettext to Build-Depends, and we wouldn't need to bother with other packages. | 14:20 |
| jbicha | Laney: that was last year! | 14:21 |
| jbicha | GunnarHj: some Debian Developers try to avoid the NEW queue | 14:22 |
| Laney | I woudn't make a package for such a tiny amount of data | 14:23 |
| Laney | plus that | 14:23 |
| jbicha | one reason for that is that the ftpmasters sometimes reject packages for incomplete debian/copyright files even if the package is already in Debian | 14:23 |
| jbicha | so sometimes it's not less intrusive at all :( | 14:23 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Thanks for you comment on the bug report about other packages depending on policykit-1. I think I'll await Martin's response before proceeding with a possible move of polkit.{its,loc}. | 15:42 |
| mvo | Laney: hey, you did all the work for the integration of Components-$(ARCH).yml - for some time I was wondering what it would take to do something similar for the command-not-found data, i.e. create a indexfile with the binaries<->pkgs mapping (a subset of Contents-$ARCH essentially plus data from update-alternatives). whats your estimate about the amount of work? | 16:01 |
| mvo | Laney: the background is that there is a desire to show version information in c-n-f but that requires a bit more dynamic approach than we use now | 16:02 |
| Laney | hey mvo | 16:02 |
| Laney | It's not that hard --- there's something in lp:ubuntu-archive-publishing (I think) for the appstream stuff | 16:03 |
| Laney | basically launchpad rsyncs it from us and serves that up via the archive | 16:03 |
| mvo | Laney: and the lp bits are in the lp repo I presume? | 16:04 |
| Laney | there's no LP bits, just the publisher step | 16:04 |
| mvo | Laney: I actually have the data already extracted daily, it would probably just take a small converter then | 16:04 |
| mvo | Laney: is the publisher not part of lp? | 16:04 |
| mvo | Laney: I mean, where could I look at how its integrated into the Release file :) ? | 16:04 |
| Laney | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-publishing/trunk/view/head:/finalize.d/30-appstream | 16:05 |
| mvo | Laney: \o/ | 16:05 |
| mvo | Laney: ok, that looks nice. do you have hints about how this gets into http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease? | 16:06 |
| Laney | nope, I think that's just part of the magic due to it being put into $STAGINGROOT | 16:06 |
| mvo | Laney: woah, thats even better | 16:06 |
| Laney | Colin would know more, but this side wasn't hard | 16:06 |
| mvo | Laney: great, I will talk to colin I think, this might actually be (much) simpler than I anticipated | 16:07 |
| Laney | Guess you'll want to check if they are happy pulling from your current server or if you need to get a special one set up | 16:07 |
| * mvo hugs Laney (with extra enthusiasm) | 16:07 | |
| Laney | appstream.internal is a dedicated box (in the cloud) for generating this | 16:07 |
| mvo | Laney: yeah, moving things around is probably needed but not a big deal | 16:07 |
| * Laney hugs mvo - good luck! | 16:07 | |
| Laney | and the apt side for getting it onto the system is easy enough too | 16:08 |
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| kenvandine | jbicha, could you please subscribe desktop-bugs to xdg-desktop-portal-gtk? | 21:50 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: you have to ask Laney or seb128 (xdg-desktop-portal needs subscribed too) | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, ok | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | it's the last thing i need to do on the MIR | 21:57 |
| jbicha | go ahead and file the bug, the subscriber can be added later | 21:59 |
| jbicha | have a good weekend! | 21:59 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, you too | 21:59 |
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