/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/02/16/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

lordievaderGood morning07:13
ducassegood morning, all07:15
EriC^^good morning lordievader ducasse07:15
lordievaderHey EriC^^ ducasse07:15
lordievaderHow are you all?07:15
ducassehi EriC^^, lordievader - all going well?07:15
ducasseok here, lordievader07:16
EriC^^good you? lordievader ducasse07:16
lordievaderDoing alright here :D07:16
BluesKajHiyas all11:50
JimBunbtug'morn11:50
BluesKaj'Morning JimBunbtu11:52
pauljwhi everyone13:16
jinkHi Paul.13:21
BluesKajHey pauljw13:36
pauljwhi jink, BluesKaj :)13:53
nicomachusnacc: yes I dropped unity on 16.04.16:21
naccnicomachus: it was a bug :)16:22
naccnicomachus: fwiw16:22
nacccompiz migrated when it shouldn't have16:22
nacc(as it required unity to be rebuilt)16:22
nicomachushuh16:22
naccupgrade wouldn't have done it, but a dist-upgrade would have (as its allowed to remove broken packages)16:22
naccthanks to your message, we caught it after only a few hours :)16:23
nicomachusI did a full-upgrade16:23
* daftykins never runs standard 'apt upgrade' s16:24
nicomachussame16:24
nicomachusit's always 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade'16:24
daftykinsstill got a couple of machines on 14.04 so i can't use all the features of apt and have to mix it with apt-get still :<16:25
nicomachusHuh. paste.ubuntu.com has a new disclaimer at the top of the page...16:26
daftykinso rly16:26
nicomachusnacc: updating my rpi now for the first time in a week or so. still autoremoving a lot of the python packages that my laptop removed yesterday, but not the unity packages (it has MATE installed): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xBY4DR35Sd/16:27
nicomachusdaftykins: This site is intended for use as a short-term exchange of pasted information between parties. All submitted data is considered public information. Submitted data is not guaranteed to be permanent, and may be removed at any time. Please do not set up programs to send data to this site in an automated fashion; it is intended to be used directly by humans.16:27
daftykinswell well, so they're actually gonna start removing things eh?16:28
daftykinsbelieve it when i (don't) see it16:28
nicomachusthere's a new dropdown selection for expiration date, too16:28
daftykinsooh very nice16:28
daftykinsi love that about Nextcloud, if i share a pic to you i can make it expire at midnight16:28
nicomachus"None, A Day, A Week, A Month, A Year" with an additional exclaimer of: Paste expirations (or lack thereof) are approximate and not guaranteed16:28
daftykinshah16:29
nicomachusI wonder how many archived, useful posts on AskUbuntu and StackExchage are going to be destroyed by that16:30
naccnicomachus: full/dist same16:30
naccnicomachus: yeah the latter case is what we expected16:30
daftykinsmmm i still type dist-upgrade tbh16:31
daftykinsshould really move on from that habit, but eh16:31
naccyeah for apt it's the same16:31
daftykinsheh i've got an ancient WD Caviar SE 250GB drive in one of my ubuntu servers, it has a 7.2 year power on time16:54
daftykinsstill totally clean SMART16:54
nicomachusnacc: how do I change a wiki page?17:03
nicomachushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome17:03
nicomachusthis page lists the wrong IRC channel17:03
nicomachusthey ahve the support channel as ##folding, but it's #fah17:03
naccnicomachus: login first17:04
naccthen edit it?17:04
naccnicomachus: you need to be in the right team to have permission, iirc17:04
nicomachusoh.17:04
ducassenicomachus: you need to be in the wiki-editors team17:08
naccducasse: thanks17:08
nicomachuswell, #fah just directed me to a separate forum. Doesn't seem to be an IRC support channel.17:11
naccheh17:12
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nicomachusI think that folding at home should be easier to install than this...17:34
nicomachusthe stanford page lists 3 .deb packages. 1 installs fine, the other 2 depend on deprecated packages.17:34
nicomachusthe Ubuntu wiki lists 4 different installers, all abandoned or non-working17:34
daftykins:O17:36
daftykinsyou after a space heater or something? :)17:36
nicomachusJust figured I'd go with the light process and do my part.... but it's not that easy apparently.17:37
nicomachusI have a PC at home that's always running but that I only use about an hour a day. Might as well do some good.17:37
daftykinshmm17:38
ducasseafternoon, daftykins - all going well?17:45
daftykinsheyup \o17:48
creativ3Anyone else having problems with Oracle VirtualBox through the software center? (it freezes when I click run).18:00
nicomachuscreativ3: this isn't a support channel. try #ubuntu18:00
daftykinscreativ3: also you appear to be running Mint, not Ubuntu - and no they're not the same :)18:01
creativ3daftykins: How can you see that btw?18:01
daftykinsit's magic18:02
nicomachus~mint@188.113.85.25318:02
nicomachusoh. sorry. right, magic18:02
daftykins:)18:03
creativ3Pretty new to linux and IRC. Would like to know how to see these things here.18:04
nicomachuscreativ3: when you log into IRC it lists your hostname and IP, unless cloaked (see #freenode for more info). Yours is ~mint@188.113.85.253. you can see it yourself by typing '/whois creativ3'18:05
creativ3Thank you. How can I cloak this info?18:06
nicomachus'/join #freenode' and ask them.18:06
daftykinsit is wrong to hide what distro you are running in order to get help elsewhere, just so you know18:06
nicomachusalso true.18:07
creativ3daftykins: I have heard mint and ubuntu are the same, and I was not getting any help on the other mint chat. I apologize.18:07
nicomachusthey are not.18:07
daftykinsthat's wrong, but yeah that's common because their community is non-existant... also no good reason that distro exists at all really18:08
creativ3I was guided to distrowatch and to dl the top OS there by someone I know, since I want to stop using Windows and try and go over to GNU/Linux instead.18:10
nicomachusdistrowatch's ranking are distorted because it's only judged by page visits to a distro's website, not actual downloads.18:12
nicomachusUbuntu is the #1 installed linux distro and is a better option for first-time users than Mint.18:12
creativ3nicomachus: I did not know this. Thanks for the info about that.18:14
nicomachusnp18:15
naccwhen is it appropriate to \ignore donofrio?18:45
nacci'm getting close18:45
tomreynwhen he adds M$_ to his nickname18:49
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hggdhnacc: actually, you can opt to not engage anymore with him18:50
nacchggdh: yeah i need to18:50
nacchggdh: i'm bad at that :/18:50
hggdh:-)18:50
naccif you hadn't noticed :)18:50
hggdhusually we all are sort of bad in letting go18:50
hggdhhe could go with this on -offtopic, or even -discuss, but this is not an issue for +118:51
nacci've got the canonical wsl folks to know there is that other channel now :)18:52
naccso hopefully he'll stay there18:52
hggdhok, so I will not boot him out18:54
naccyeah, hopefully they do it correctly18:55
naccalso they don't seem to know how to fix issues with the development release, so i don't know why they are runnignit18:55

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