[04:51] <themill> Hi! Is there a way to find out why a package was pulled from Debian experimental into bionic? I uploaded ktikz to experimental because I don't consider it ready for release... and now it's in an LTS.
[04:53] <sarnold> infinity: any chance you're still awake and can take a look at themill's question? ^^
[04:55] <Unit193> sarnold: slangasek was the one to sync it, so best to poke him.
[04:55] <sarnold> Unit193: ah! thanks
[04:56] <sarnold> slangasek: any chance you're still awake and can take a look at themill's question? ^^
[04:58] <themill> I'm guessing it's an effort to get rid of Qt4 but I find pulling from experimental into LTS somewhat surprising.
[04:59] <themill> (It's a random git snapshot from a branch that isn't even merged into master)
[05:02] <Unit193> #ubuntu-release.2018-02-11.log:03:10:06 < slangasek> apw, doko: gawk, ktikz, octave-interval sorted; that leaves only linux-tools-* blocking binutils + mpfr4 + poppler
[05:02] <Unit193> ...Annnd that was quite stupid of me.  I'm sorry.
[05:03] <themill> ah, so it might be poppler-qt4
[05:38] <slangasek> themill: well, the other option is that I can remove the package if it's not LTS-suitable... and if a poppler-qt4-less version makes it into unstable, we can sync that in its place
[05:40] <themill> What's the timeline for that sync to happen?
[05:40] <themill> Upstream is keen to get the kf5 (i.e. no more poppler-qt4) version into bionic but is time poor etc etc.
[05:40] <slangasek> themill: if there's a new version in unstable by end of month, we would auto-sync it back in.  If after March 1, an Ubuntu dev would need to manually sync it
[05:41] <themill> ok, that might be good leverage to get upstream moving
[05:41] <slangasek> themill: should I delete the experimental version of ktikz now in anticipation of this?
[05:42] <themill> Let's leave it there on the assumption I'll be able to replace it with this kf5 version soon enough
[05:42] <slangasek> ok
[05:43] <sarnold> thanks slangasek, themill :)
[05:43] <themill> (depends on how much you want to play "always in a releaseable state" line you follow)
[05:43] <sarnold> infinity: ^^ handled by slangasek :)
[05:43] <themill> I'm mostly nervous about this being non-master and potentially a dead-end branch.
[19:29] <xevious> nacc: I updated the gist: https://gist.github.com/iammattcoleman/88013cb5f92105b15a66ee2ada442a16
[21:13] <tarzeau> i'm out of ideas, i know about this command: pkg-config --print-variables Qt5Core
[21:13] <tarzeau> but i'm out of ideas how to get the mm3d 1.3.9 to build on ubuntu
[21:13] <tarzeau> on debian it just builds/works (mm3d with qt5)
[21:13] <tarzeau> patches/hints welcome