[09:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:59] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[10:01] <brobostigon> o/
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> now time to get up and check to see if my lottery ticket turned into a pumpkin overnight... :-)
[10:02] <brobostigon> :)
[10:28] <zmoylan-pi> confirmed.... enough winnings to buy a nokia 3310 3g :-)
[10:29] <brobostigon> thats about 50quid then.
[10:29] <zmoylan-pi> €80 here in the republic
[10:30] <brobostigon> ah.
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> 2g version is 50 quid in uk and 3g is abit pricier
[10:31] <zmoylan-pi> a 4g version is coming out in china to make your sms even faster :-)
[10:31] <brobostigon> :)
[10:36] <zmoylan-pi> and nokia have become #3 phone seller in uk in last few months... so not bad for a company killed by ms...
[10:37] <brobostigon> :)
[10:37] <brobostigon> nokia/hmd
[10:38] <zmoylan-pi> yes well there are a few /nokias/ now... nokia-nokia the original, ms nokia *spit*, hmd nokia... and i think foxconn have a nokia brand they can use in china...
[10:39] <brobostigon> and it definitly helps that they seem to be keeping their phones well up to date, unlike most phone manifacturers.
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> not a lot of nokia in that... :-P
[10:39] <brobostigon> good point.
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> nice to see a company i really like bounce back post elop
[10:39] <brobostigon> definitly.
[10:39] <zmoylan-pi> and having made a few billion off ms... not many companies do that and survive
[10:40] <brobostigon> quite.
[11:03] <zmoylan-pi> only apple springs to mind when ms invested in them when jobs went back in the 90s... apple did rather well out of that i hear... :-P
[11:06] <zmoylan-pi> ...right off to collect winnings and phone... o/
[11:06] <brobostigon> :)
[11:07] <brobostigon> :12
[11:07] <brobostigon> woops
[18:38]  * zmoylan-pi watches nokia 3310 charge... and waits... and waits...
[18:45] <daftykins> it's akin to a kettle, right?
[18:46] <zmoylan-pi> not really, if i dropped a kettle it might get dented.... :-)
[18:47] <daftykins> a friend had that crazy CAT smartphone with the built in FLIR last night
[18:47] <daftykins> we had fun over the restaurant table looking at how warm each others faces were
[18:47] <Nafallo> daftykins: you went for indian? :-)
[18:48] <daftykins> nah, www.slaughterhouse.gg
[18:48] <zmoylan-pi> oh yeah, i saw pics from one on imgur... guy took a pic and was terrified when a glass door reflected his heat back and made it look like an intruder...
[18:48] <Nafallo> lol
[18:49] <zmoylan-pi> see if they had a nokia in their hand, they'd have +2 bludgeon weapon rating... :-P
[18:49] <daftykins> some fine pork ribs, om nom nom
[19:35] <penguin42> daftykins: I wish I had one of those FLIR things after my encounter with a scalding 13A plug last week
[19:43] <zmoylan-pi> you'd have to wear it strapped to your face to pick up on that though...
[19:46] <penguin42> well, I was looking for what was causing the hot smell
[19:47] <zmoylan-pi> ooooh, good point...
[19:47] <zmoylan-pi> flush out a predator maybe... :-P
[19:52] <zmoylan-pi> the cold drives them inside... we know they like heat... :-D
[21:44] <Nokaji> how do I configure an additional internal drive so I can write to it? - long time since I had to do this
[21:48] <Nokaji> ext3/ext4, currently partitioned but no data
[21:49] <brobostigon> look up the rw flag for mount. :)
[21:49] <Nokaji> okie ... I rememeber something about setting 1000 or maybe 1001 but I can go form there, ty
[21:50] <brobostigon> yw.
[21:51] <brobostigon> but yes also your user needs rw permissions to it as well, as well as telling mount you can read and write to and from it.
[21:53] <Nokaji> Ah ... it's all coming back to me :) ... user and group or something
[21:53] <brobostigon> but nominally if you mounted said internal drive with something like nautilus, which will use fuse, it will do all that for you.
[21:53] <Nokaji> time for a break ... and a drink to er ... celebrate
[21:53] <brobostigon> :)
[21:53] <Nokaji> Oh
[21:54] <Nokaji> I seem to remember it worked for a coupla reboots then no access ... was a while back so could be mistaken
[22:21] <ali1234> penguin42: adafruit has an 8x8 FLIR camera
[22:22] <ali1234> it's really cheap. like £20 i think
[22:23] <ali1234> i've been trying to get the webcam gadget driver working so i can make a FLIR webcam, but it seems to be broken, or the documentation is out of date, i dunno
[23:22] <penguin42> ali1234: Interesting, is it much more use than the IR thermometers?
[23:23] <ali1234> i don't know, i haven't seen it work yet
[23:23] <ali1234> https://www.adafruit.com/product/3538
[23:26] <penguin42> hmm the component by itself without the regultor and shifting is about £15-20
[23:27] <penguin42> (from a normal UK supplier, or £78 on ebay!)
[23:30] <ali1234> it just about fits in the official pi zero case https://photos.app.goo.gl/z5uDCvCFhoByJ5bi1
[23:30] <penguin42> ali1234: Probably not high enough res for cat  recognition
[23:30] <ali1234> probably not but it would work for finding burning plugs :)
[23:30] <penguin42> true :-)
[23:31] <ali1234> i plan to overlay the thermal image on the regular camera image with gstreamer, and then re-expose the result through a USB gadget device
[23:34] <penguin42> nod
[23:34] <penguin42> (Panasonics data sheet points out it's under export regs, I believe that's part of what limits the resolution/update rate available)
[23:35] <ali1234> figures
[23:35] <ali1234> i bought it from pimoroni anyway