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rollingubuntumacc: I have not gksudo, apt-get install gksu only?00:00
oerheksnautilus-admin plugin gives that option, opening as root00:00
naccrollingubuntu: *nacc* is my nick, not 'macc'. if you have gksu on ubuntu, i think you also have gksudo00:01
naccrollingubuntu: what version of ubuntu?00:01
naccoerheks: ah thanks00:01
rollingubuntugot you :) nacc00:01
rollingubuntunacc: 17.1000:01
oerheks* but nautilus does not work in 17.10/wayland session :-( fix is being made00:01
naccrollingubuntu: hrm, i'm fairly sure gksudo is in 17.1000:02
naccoerheks: do you have it handy?00:02
nacc(i'm on 18.04 right now)00:02
oerhekserr synaptic, forget the line...00:02
rollingubuntunacc: it wasn't in mine, I just installed gksu00:02
rangemongersynaptic didnt work for me on wayland either00:02
naccrollingubuntu: right gksu is the package name00:03
naccrollingubuntu: but the applicatio you want is gksudo00:03
rollingubuntunacc: plus, I get this with gksudonautilus --> Failed to run nautilus as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.00:03
rangemongerwhats best practice for swap size? 50 percent of the size of the physical ram?00:04
naccrangemonger: you don't technically need swap00:05
naccrangemonger: it wholly depends on workload00:05
oerheks*best* is let ubuntu hande it, 17.10 uses swapfile00:05
rangemongerwith no swapfile or partition, wont things brickwall?00:05
naccif your workload uses up all of memory00:05
naccrangemonger: again, i said it's workload dependent00:05
DiecastMessiahrangemonger: yeah if you have lots of ram .. but if you low ram the same size i would think00:05
oerheksseems like you know the answer yourself already, rangemonger00:05
rangemongeroerheks: but my use case is on btrfs, no swap file support00:05
rangemongerguess ill make it the same size00:06
rangemongeroff course it wont brickwall if i dont use all the physical ram up but why risk that being a possibility00:06
oerheks!swap00:07
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info00:07
oerheksmemory + some bytes, or 2x memory00:07
rangemongeri know what its for :P00:07
DiecastMessiahi don;t need it but i have 4gb ram so i have 4 gb swap00:07
rangemongerso far my micro servers been fine without it on 2gig00:07
rangemongeri just found out btrfs doesnt do swapfiles yet00:08
rangemongerman btrfs is awesome00:13
josacohola00:17
DiecastMessiahhails00:18
libbenI did a clean install of ubuntu server. Im getting static ip from dhcp on my router. But when I check /etc/networking/interfaces there is nothing there but standard "lo" entry00:31
libbenwhere is the information stored for my nic to be dhcp00:31
libbeninformation it gather during the installation00:31
libbenI thought it would be in interfaces00:32
oerhekslibben, did you manually set that static ip during install?? then it would show up there00:34
oerhekselse your router reserves that ip based on your mac, i guess00:34
libbenno00:35
libbenmy router has it locked to static in dhcp.00:35
libbenbut ubuntu server should have entry for that nic in interfaces00:35
libbenbeing something like iface inet enp1s0 dhcp00:36
libbenthere is nothing like that in my interfaces00:36
oerhekson 17.10 it could be stored in /etc/netplan/*.yaml00:36
rangemongerif i just made a new swap partition, how do i get it to activate swapon on every boot?00:36
libbenfstab rangemonger00:36
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan00:36
rangemongerthanks00:37
libbenhttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-04 rangemonger00:37
libbensorry00:37
libbenthat was swapfile00:37
libbennot partition00:37
libbenhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-a-swap-partition-after-system-installation00:38
libbenmore simple instructions there00:38
oerheks!swaphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_or_modify_a_swap_partition.3F00:39
rangemongerthanks00:39
libbenhmm, oerheks why did they start with netplan =)00:40
libbeninterfaces is simple00:40
libben=)00:40
libbensick00:41
rangemongerlets see if gnome disks does it right00:41
oerheksnetplan is great for deploying a large number of machines00:41
rangemongerballer, it does indeed00:42
oerheksbut if your router serves you, be happy00:42
libbenwell, it does what I want.00:42
libbenso it works i guess00:42
libbenjust weird that ubuntu server installation puts it into netplan00:43
libbenI installed 18.04 current build. is there any good meta package to have? Feels like im missing some things in systemd and overall.00:44
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Network_configuration00:44
libbenjust feels like I have fewer things00:44
oerheksoh, 18.04 ... support in #ubuntu+100:44
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rangemongertastes like beta00:46
bazhangrangemonger, what does00:47
rangemonger18.04 :P00:47
bazhangrangemonger, discussion of that in #ubuntu+1 NOT here00:47
oerheksuntil release, it is00:47
bazhanglets stick to topical support here please rangemonger00:48
rangemongersorry00:48
bazhangfor chatter rangemonger please go to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere00:49
rangemongernoted00:49
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Guest60791доброй ночи всем01:17
Guest60791кто может помочь пошагово соединить 2 компа в одну сеть ?01:18
DiecastMessiahGuest60791 try #ubuntu-ru unless you can also speak english01:26
pyexhello, i cant find to eth0, i need to suggestion01:32
pyexeth0 is missing01:34
DiecastMessiahpyex i think you may want to read up on ifconfig but not sure i am new01:34
DiecastMessiahif you like more help it best to give more info when asking questions like what verison of ubuntu you are using,, and more on what you did01:36
pyexifconfig output Link encap:Ethernet -- Link encap:Local Loopback01:36
pyexOnly ethernet and loopback01:36
pyexbut my connection missing, its eth001:37
pyexUbuntu 16.04.3 LTS01:38
skatetensorpyex: what does ifconfig gives u ?01:41
pyexEthernet and Local Loopback01:42
Bashing-ompyex: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ for the reason of the change from eth0 ,01:43
DiecastMessiahpyex: was this after an update orr?01:44
AlphaXder.j git01:45
pyexConnection good, but network traffic cant see01:45
pyexeth0 missing01:45
pyex16.04.3 LTS my version01:46
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tcpdumpHey guys, Im hoping you can help me. I keep right clicking on my start menu, clicking on "my computer" and hitting properties. When I do that I get a blue screen with white lettering, and then my computer reboots.02:02
iresfhey02:04
iresfcan  clustered PCs speed up the hash rate ?02:04
tcpdumpiresf: only if they're clustered with aluminum tape.02:06
iresftcpdump :aluminum tape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:09
Nachos11:)02:12
Nachos11The trolling is strong with this one.02:12
stvntcpdump, you have to install ubuntu02:14
nojmhi currently scanning a 2.3TB drive with Gpartd from GUI with 'attempt data rescue' its been 3 days now-at what point should i call it quits disk speed is 7200 connected via sata 3.0 speculation is a good enough for me (i know about test disk and have a few backups but doubt their integrity hence the data rescue)02:14
Nachos11And here I am, debating on whether to use KVM or LXD as a hypervisor...02:15
nojmjust want a ballpark guess 3-5days?02:15
Nachos11Anybody have thoughts about which one makes a better hypervisor?02:16
nojmhappy to post any outputs in order to make a guess02:16
nojmsomebody please :)02:18
nojmbabbaganoosh love that dish02:18
babaganooshhey, sometimes I am prosciutto02:19
nojmlove that too02:19
babaganooshi'm pretty cosmopolitan02:20
babaganooshmy usual nick is 'baba' but that is in use now02:20
nojmdad?02:20
nojmin arabic im told02:21
babaganooshi don't know...it was just short for babaganoosh02:21
nojmcan anyone speculate on how long a 2.3TB data rescue scan might take sata 3.0 from Gparted02:23
nojmits been 3days02:23
nojm7200 disk speed02:23
nojm<babaganoosh> if mine was food id make it moorhingha (burmese cobla chowder almost)02:24
nojmif you like pho you'll love it(pho vietnamese)02:25
nojmcmon people dont fail me now just need a guess02:26
babaganooshwell iam not *that* cosmopolitan02:27
nojmlmao02:27
nojmtoo sweet sour and salty (that like my moms)02:28
babaganooshI see......02:29
babaganooshMy mom never made pho, to be sure02:29
nojmany of the 1503 ppl here a boss where HDD and data recovery is concernedd02:29
nojmneed help pls02:29
tomreynuse gddrescue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery02:31
tomreyni'm not sure what the gui you are using does02:31
nojmthanks <tomreyn>02:31
tomreynrun it from a terminal to get any idea about its progress02:32
nojmis it possible to run it from terminal while Gpartd scan is running?02:34
nojmand thank you02:35
nojmi was able to get smart info from terminal yesterday no issues this being a scan i assume no but im a novice02:36
nojm<tomreyn> can i run that while Gparted scan continues; or do i need to halt other scans?02:38
tomreynnowhat's the actual issue then, what prompted you runnign this gparted gui data rescue option in the first place?02:38
tomreyni would not run two such processes in parallel, no02:38
nojmthanks will ans ur question following02:39
nojmHad an external HDD with faulty usb 3.0 connector numerous power fails during use because of02:40
nojmput inside pc to bypass connection issues = no partition table02:40
rizonzhi guys, anyone willing to test a package on 17.10 ?02:40
nojmran testdisk wrote to drive partions it found on quick scan02:41
nojmnot the ones i needed02:41
rizonzI'm trying to start janus but I get an error: [utils.c:janus_pidfile_create:379] Error opening/creating PID file , does Janus have enough permissions?02:41
rizonzand I'm starting as root02:41
nojmbackups of table (doubtful that they are taken at correct point in all my messing round02:41
babaganooshsorry, dude02:42
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nojmhave reconnected the drive to external 3.0 and am running scan to try recover my data which reside in 3 different partitions02:42
tomreynnojm: so there is actually no indication of a physical issue such as the hdd platters degrading?02:43
nojmno02:43
nojmno damage just partition overwriting02:43
tomreynnojm: okay then you should just create a fulldisk image on a seperate storage. (or rather should have before you tried the other, potentially destructive, approaches)02:44
nojmand backups i took where probobly when it was connected inside the pc (sata) not when connected via usb 3.0)02:44
stvn[[]]02:44
n1zjdAnyone have a second to help with a rc.local problem?02:44
nojmwhen connected via usb in the external HDD case02:45
n1zjdTrying to run "darkice -c darkice.cfg" upon boot, but its not running02:45
* tomreyn afk, need sleep02:47
nojmwhen connected to computer by usb a circuit board plugs into back of drive giving it ac power and usb 3.0 if thats removed the partition table doesnt show when reconnected its fine-02:47
nojmif i hadnt of rushd and written to disk a partition table found via testdisk i would of been okay to copy and paste or dd data to another drive02:48
nojm(testdisk scan was done when drive was connected via sata not usb02:49
nojmwhich is when p table is missing02:49
nojmstupid me i rushed02:49
nojmnow i pay in patients lmao02:50
nojmpatience02:50
nojmill be back guys02:51
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kidn3ysany chance anyone has run into hibernate issues with a surface pro 3?03:17
dakshinahi03:52
oerheks:-)03:53
dakshina:-)03:53
SupreXHello! :)03:53
dakshinai'm new to ubuntu03:54
oerheks!yay03:55
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)03:55
SupreXI got some performance issues... Can somebody help me out? It's on Lubuntu. But that channel is dead and it might appear like the same on Ubuntu. The new installation performs laggy. IDK why, I been trying Google.03:55
kenrinWhat does "laggy" mean ?03:55
SupreXLike windows are moving slow03:55
oerheksSupreX, open a terminal: top # and see if there are processes that are 100%.. and see if there are zombies03:56
kenrinCheck top or htop and see what it is doing03:56
Boyettelol03:56
SupreXI already been checking that memory usage and CPU usage. It's a clean installation with only Plex Media Server installed (no activity) and I'm on a i7 8700k with 8 GB DDR4 RAM.03:57
SupreXCPU usage is about 1-2 % and memory usage is peaking about 10 %03:57
Boyettethats not causing the lag03:58
dakshinahow can i install my wifi driver03:59
Boyettei think windows lagging03:59
Boyetteu didnt install videodriver03:59
Boyettegraphics are using ur ram now03:59
Boyetteinstead of gram03:59
kenrinor the HDD is dying03:59
SupreXAha... How to fix that?03:59
dakshinatnx03:59
SupreXI think videodriver issue maybe?04:00
Boyetteyes04:00
Boyetteit should be04:00
Boyettetype this04:00
Boyettesudo dmidecode | grep Version04:00
SupreXVersion: P1.40 Version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Version:                        Version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz uCode Version ME Firmware Version SKL PCH H Bx Hsio Version SKL PCH H Dx Hsio Version KBL PCH H Ax Hsio Version SKL PCH LP Bx Hsio Version SKL PCH LP Cx Hsio Version SA - PCIe Version04:01
Boyetteand this04:01
Boyettelspci | grep VGA04:01
SupreX00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 3e9204:01
Boyettelubuntu04:03
Boyettewhich version?04:03
SupreXlatest long term04:03
Boyettelsb_release -a04:03
SupreXDistributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS Release:16.04 Codename:xenial04:04
oerheksknown issue, see the fix 'i915.alpha_support=1' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/172831304:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1728313 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "Intel Coffee Lake GPU isn't supported by default (yet)" [Medium,Triaged]04:04
SupreXCrap...04:04
SupreXIs there not current solution for it?04:04
oerheksyes, just wrote that, and the url04:04
SupreXif it's not supported yet... there isn't right.04:05
oerheksalso here, same fix https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2377324&p=13739391#post1373939104:05
SupreXExcept you can't compile some drivers?04:05
SupreXAh... I'll read.04:05
oerhekssudo nano /etc/default/grub # add that line, and run sudo update-grub # and reboot04:06
SupreXTYVM I'll try to reboot and I'll see what happens. Thanks again.04:11
oerheksLet us know ..04:12
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Boyetteuse ubuntu mate 18 it will work04:15
akikoerheks: is the i915.alpha_support about the transparency or the driver status (alpha, beta) ?04:18
LanDihey guys, for some reason, my second display is not working on ubuntu. can you guys help me to fix it?04:19
oerheksnot sure what part, but the bugreport mentions that it will be supported with the 4.15 kernel04:19
akikok it's explained in phoronix.com. thanks04:19
oerheksLanDi, 2nd display, on a laptop??04:20
LanDinope, I have a dual monitor setup, actually I have 3 displays connected, but I want to use 2. after try to install nvidia drivers, just one is working04:20
LanDioerheks, >04:21
oerheksLanDi, oke, and what ubuntu version?04:21
LanDioerheks, 17.1004:23
oerheksLanDi, so you have chosen Xorg? as wayland does not support nvidia drivers yet04:24
oerhekssee in nvidia-settings ?04:24
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LanDioerheks, ohh, I did uncheck a wayland line in some text file... let me check it out04:25
oerhekslogout, switch to xorg, and see if that solves04:26
sicatrizhello04:30
EriC^^hi04:30
sicatrizi am man and you?04:30
oerhekswho cares, this is ubuntu technical support04:31
LanDioerheks, haha, I worked, thanks man04:34
oerheksLanDi, have fun!04:35
articulasGood to be back.... I tried Debian and Mate... Omg... It made me realize how much Ubuntu rocks.04:43
oerheks!yay04:43
gotesQuestion: Trying to change settings with Compiz Config (CCSM) but changes don't save. Any suggestions how save changes permanently?05:03
EriC^^gotes: try sudo chown -R $USER: ~/05:04
Firsttimehllo05:20
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CyberZaZaI made a live USB flash drive of Ubuntu 17.10. I can't boot it on my BIOS. it just won't show up05:47
gotesquit05:50
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CyberZaZaanyone here?05:59
nojmhow do you irc bosses find a channel relavent06:03
nojmhow do you guys find a irc channel relevent to a given topic is there a google for irc channels (noob irc)06:04
nojmlist command is not really what im after06:04
CyberZaZalooks like the list command06:04
null00"/msg alis list 'search term'"06:05
nojmis that pretty much my only option?06:05
blue1do a /list06:05
nojmwhere from-guessing not from a channel im in already am using pigeon06:06
blue1in the box you are currently typing in06:08
blue1brings a popup06:09
nojmnice got it up if i want other network/server list just do it after connection the server yeah06:09
blue1you should probably take this to ubuntu-offtopic06:10
nojmthanks for your help and sorry06:10
blue1no worries06:10
nojmubuntu off topic channel name is 'ubuntuofftopic'06:11
blue1ahh06:13
nojmall good found it06:14
jk^hi all, while lubuntu is doing updates, do i have to close all opened applications?06:18
Triffid_Hunterjk^: no, although certain apps might become unstable if they get updated until you close and reopen them06:19
blue1jk^: i don't06:20
blue1but yes it depends on what's being updated06:21
jk^it doesn't ask me to close any applications :\ my doubt is if it's possible that without closing anything it may give any problems to the applications or to the system06:23
jk^blue1, Triffid_Hunter06:23
Triffid_Hunterjk^: not really, linux simply doesn't have the issues that windows does regarding open files06:23
blue1true that06:24
jk^ok :)06:24
Triffid_Hunterjk^: the vast majority of programs don't care if the on-disk binaries get updated while they're running. There's a few exceptions, eg if you upgrade nvidia proprietary drivers, anything that uses opengl will break until you modprobe the matching kernel module06:24
jk^modprobe what means?06:25
Triffid_Hunterjk^: and it's hypothetically possible that certain programs will barf if their on-disk files change to a newer version although I can't think of any specific one that does this06:25
Triffid_Hunterjk^: modprobe is for loading drivers06:26
jk^is it an app "modprobe"?06:26
Triffid_Hunterjk^: terminal command, if it sounds scary you can simply reboot to get your new graphics drivers sorted06:27
sun`анд ел ламе06:40
sun`ламе el06:41
sun`hahahah06:41
sun`amatiorchince06:41
sun`westerns is funny but stupid el :)06:43
zackniteHi. I'm trying to get networking to work on Ubuntu06:47
zackniteSomeone said to do "dmesg" and look for brcmf and show you guys06:47
zackniteThis is what it says when I do that:06:47
zacknitebrcmfmac mmc0:0001:1 Direct firmware load for brcm/mrcmfmac43340 -stdio.txt failed with error -206:48
zackniteMight anyone know what I would need to do to get networking?06:50
Triffid_Hunterzacknite: start with sudo apt-get install linux-firmware06:50
timdotrbEvening, all06:50
timdotrbIs there any way to tell what on your server is using swap?06:50
zackniteTriffid_Hunter: It says linux-firmware is already installed to the newest version, then on the next line, it says linux-firmware set to manually installed06:52
zackniteMind you, this is on a machine with no networking06:52
Triffid_Hunterzacknite: hmm that's troublesome, might need to tether your wifi through your phone or something06:54
Triffid_Hunterzacknite: broadcom stuff is always difficult06:54
zackniteTriffid_Hunter: To tether to my phone, I'd have to have a working wifi device, wouldn't I? Is there a way I can put the drivers I need on a usb and load them from there?06:56
Triffid_Hunterzacknite: yeah sure, I don't know how to do that in ubuntu though06:57
jackie`el https://forum.bgirc.com/topic/143-ubuntu-linuxdebian/07:00
jackie`see07:00
jackie`i am only07:00
eljackie`: that doesn't mean your contributions here have been helpful at all.07:01
jackie`Bulgarians07:02
jackie`may be07:02
elstick to helping there and stop disrupting here.07:02
Leagnus41Hello!07:02
Leagnus41fresh install:07:02
Leagnus41After sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:02
Leagnus41Lenovo laptop with Intel & nVidia hangs07:02
jackie`stop bann me07:03
Leagnus41file  /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty07:03
jackie`fot nothing07:03
jackie`i stop07:03
Triffid_HunterLeagnus41: log in on terminal, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:03
eljackie`: the pinging people and nonsense talking here will stop then? if so then the bans will.07:04
jackie`why bann me el un cloam my user anadar to cloak and bann me07:04
jackie`what is the problem07:04
jackie`5 years nick not cloak07:05
eljackie`: this isn't the place to talk about that.07:05
jackie`no 2 cloak in mty accunt07:05
jackie`you bannme freenode07:05
elyou've shown that you know how to pm in the past.07:05
Neo4gparted doesn't work, and I've decided to use other app, What do you suggest alternative gparted?07:06
Neo4I want to add space to my main partition07:06
jackie`not be arrogant east europens not interesting this07:06
bazhangNeo4, is this the shared drive with windows07:07
jackie`joint evry minute evry chanel and freenode07:07
Leagnus41Triffid_Hunter: EE no screens found07:07
Neo4bazhang: I don't know07:07
bazhangNeo4, you said you want to add space to the ubuntu partition07:08
Leagnus41Devices detected but none match those in config file07:08
Neo4bazhang: yes07:08
bazhangNeo4, what's the space being taken from07:08
Neo4from windows07:08
bazhangNeo4, so they share a hdd07:08
Neo4I've already cut from windows07:09
jaymamHi, I'm new to all this. Why is Files 3.10.1 (Nautilus?) so slow to display a picture? It takes 30 seconds or more07:09
Neo4bazhang: yes ssd07:09
Triffid_HunterLeagnus41: sounds like your graphics driver ain't working.. see which one it's picked. is this one of those dual gpu systems? there's some secret sauce you need to get those happy, ask google07:09
bazhangNeo4, so windows is installed07:09
Neo4yes07:09
bazhangNeo4, and you want to have one larger space for an ubuntu install07:09
Leagnus41Triffid_Hunter: yep, it is07:10
Neo4bazhang: yes07:10
bazhangNeo4, and you said gparted doesnt work07:10
Neo4bazhang: gparted doesn't run, I got error Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.07:10
Neo4bazhang: yes07:10
bazhangNeo4, are you trying to use gparted on a running system07:11
Neo4bazhang: try on running and from ubuntu usb, error is equal07:12
bazhangNeo4, you have to boot from the gparted or ubuntu live usb and do the disk partitioning on the unmounted system07:12
Neo4bazhang: how boot from granted?07:13
bazhangNeo4, that means you need to not do it from a system that is running in use, ie it is NOT mounted07:13
bazhangNeo4, you burn either the ubuntu iso to usb, or the gparted iso to usb, and select to boot from usb in the bios07:14
Neo4bazhang: I did form usb and the same error07:14
bazhangNeo4, what did you boot07:15
Neo4bazhang: this is my theme https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2385035&p=13740044#post1374004407:15
bazhangNeo4, theme means nothing here07:15
bazhangNeo4, what did you boot07:15
Leagnus41i'm novice, uname -r    returns 4.13.0-32-generic07:16
Leagnus41how do i install Linux headers for the kernel?07:16
Neo4bazhang: ubuntu from usb, there press 'try ubuntu' and there chose gparted and got the same error07:16
bazhangLeagnus41, from the package manager07:16
Leagnus41apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') - right?07:16
Neo4bazhang: hibernate and fast start in windows off07:16
Leagnus41i have terminal only07:16
bazhangNeo4, where did you select boot order07:17
bazhangLeagnus41, then apt-cache search package from the terminal07:17
Neo4bazhang: in bios07:17
Neo4usb first07:18
Neo4bazhang: I think to try other app is it exists07:18
bazhangNeo4, what was second, and how did you burn the original iso to usb07:18
Neo4bazhang: using ubootin07:18
Neo4I installed ubuntu from this USB, it's working usb07:18
bazhangNeo4, thats the problem then07:19
Neo4bazhang: on ubuntu only gparted and nothing else? I can other to try, might be it will work07:19
bazhangNeo4, what do you mean, gparted has their own 60mb iso to burn to usb07:20
Neo4bazhang: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852018.png07:20
bazhangNeo4, dont use unetbootin to do it07:21
Neo4bazhang: there many others, or they not suited?07:21
bazhangNeo4, the problem is not with gparted, it's your burn that's the problem07:22
Neo4bazhang: can you run gparted form installed ubuntu?07:22
bazhangNeo4, you would need to install it, but one never does that, as it's trying to do it on a running system07:23
Neo4bazhang: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852195.png07:23
bazhangNeo4, so fix the original usb burn, not using unetbootin07:23
Neo4it can't run07:23
bazhangNeo4, so you need to re-burn the iso to usb07:24
Neo4bazhang: it's normal usb, I installed my current ubuntu from it and it works normally07:24
bazhangNeo4, is normally now or not now07:25
Neo4bazhang: ok, I'll try, I have one more usb07:25
bazhangNeo4, just overwrite the current one07:25
Neo4bazhang: I think was there and now, I can go to live ubuntu07:25
Neo4can I write from linux live usb?07:26
bazhangNeo4, is that what you are using07:26
bazhangNeo4, is linuxlive something based on ubuntu07:27
Neo4bazhang: ubootin from windows, I want to try from ubuntu07:27
Neo4yes I don't know07:27
Neo4bazhang: tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#007:28
bazhangNeo4, you just mentioned linux live, is that the system on your computer07:28
Neo4bazhang: ubuntu07:28
Neo4bazhang: not live, real07:28
Neo4bazhang: prepared for write, disk is formating now07:31
dakshinahi07:31
bazhangNeo4, using what to write it07:32
Neo4bazhang: startup disk creator07:32
dakshinai'm new to ubuntu07:33
Neo4bazhang: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852779.png07:33
Neo4I'll try it and disck is formatting using ubunu disks tool, I'll check how it works07:33
jaymamI've used Ubuntu for 6 years but don't understand all the jargon07:35
Neo4bazhang: I think there reason something else not usb07:35
bazhangjaymam, why not have a look at the free pdf ubuntu manual then07:35
bazhang!manual07:36
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/07:36
bazhangjaymam, ^07:36
jaymamthanks07:36
jaymamAt the moment I have a problem with  Nautilus taking 30 seconds to display a picture07:37
bazhangjaymam, what's the available ram on that machine07:38
jaymam2 gb07:38
bazhangjaymam, is that all the ram, or just the available07:38
Neo4little07:38
jaymamThis PC is on 14.04 with total 2 GB07:39
Neo42gb only desktop eats07:39
Neo4jaymam: when you run ubuntu how much there available ram left?07:39
bazhangjaymam, is this a recent occurrence07:39
jaymamI want to sort out my 100,000 files and copy to a new PC on 16.04 with 4 GB RAM07:40
jaymamI don't know how to tell how much RAM is left07:40
bazhangjaymam, has the system been indexed07:40
jaymamI doubt it is indexed07:41
underd0gjaymam: htop will tell you07:41
bazhangjaymam, so you mean just recently the thumbnails take a long time to draw07:41
jaymamI can see a bunch of thumbnails in a directory. When I click on one it takes 30 seconds to display the picture07:42
jaymamNo, Nautilus has always been slow.07:42
Neo4jaymam: it can be your disk is hurt07:43
bazhangNeo4, thats not likely07:43
Neo4load speed depends on disk, on ssd it will faster07:43
bazhangjaymam, what happens when you right click open with07:44
jaymamI'll put some files on the new machine and see what that is like. It has taken me 4 years to get  14.04 or 15.04 to work because of drivers07:44
bazhangNeo4, did you need further help with your issue07:44
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Neo4bazhang: yes, I think it won't work with new USB, theme is opened07:45
bazhangNeo4, why do you mention the theme, that's not going to be important here07:46
jaymamIt took 13 seconds for right click and open with image viewer. It is usually much slower. I think I lack memory.07:46
Neo4bazhang: ok, issue is not solved*07:46
Neo4problem is not solved07:47
bazhangjaymam, top can show that, or htop if you install it07:47
jaymamI don't know where to find top07:47
bazhangjaymam, you simply type top in the terminal07:48
Neo4jaymam: listen I remember my photoshop was long time loading, and I bought SSD disk and it started very fast work, 3 - 5 seconds and opened, before wos 30 - 60 seconds07:48
jaymamI forget how to open a terminal07:49
bazhangNeo4, please dont recommend a hardware upgrade here07:49
bazhangjaymam, ctrl alt T07:49
jaymamKiB Mem 2036468 total 226396 free07:52
Neo4jaymam: would be better if  you did screenshot...07:53
Triffid_Hunterfree -m is more descriptive since it takes into account cached files and buffers which can be cleared in almost zero time if more ram is needed07:54
jaymamHow do I post a picture here?07:55
Triffid_Huntermine says total 32154 used 6484 free 1833 shared 3604 buff/cache 23835 available 21589 - so even though there's only 1.8G not being used, there's 21G which could be given to any program that needs it07:55
Neo4jaymam: upload here for example https://imgbb.com/07:55
Neo4or use shatter07:56
marcus_hello  i am new here07:56
Neo4shutter*07:56
jaymamhttps://s18.postimg.org/52d8izu09/ubuntu.jpg07:57
Neo4jaymam: you don't have RAM, you use swap07:59
Neo4jaymam: increase RAM and it must to work faster08:00
jaymamWell I want to stop using this PC as it's old and I have a new machine. But I want to sort out the directory structure first as its a mess.08:01
Neo4jaymam: run one application for a time08:02
Neo4don't open many, it could help08:03
Triffid_Hunterjaymam: then mount its disk on your faster machine with sshfs or similar, then the low ram doesn't matter08:03
xplosiffHello, trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop. It boots from the USB fine, gets past the loading screen with the dots at the bottom but it is stuck in an infinite loop - starts with a '_' cursor top left, and shortly afterwards the mouse becomes visible and can be moved around for a minute or 2 before it restarts with the '_'.08:03
Triffid_Hunterjaymam: my server only has 512M of ram and it handles everything just fine08:03
Triffid_Hunterxplosiff: sounds like your session is crashing, log in on terminal and check ~/.xsession-errors08:04
xplosiffhow do I go about doing that? I haven't used any version of linux for quite a few years sorry08:04
Neo4Triffid_Hunter: it's not server, this is desktop, it also handles fine only open window for 30 seconds08:04
jaymamOK thanks, I will make do for the moment08:05
jaymamSearching for files is remarkably quick.08:06
xplosiffdo I need to select 'try ubuntu before installing' and attempt to install from the desktop?08:07
Neo4xplosiff: you needn't, it's up to you... to make your dreams come true :)08:09
Neo4xplosiff: try ubuntu its live cd08:09
bazhangNeo4, thats not helpful08:09
Neo4bazhang: stupid questions - stupid answer...08:10
bazhangNeo4, thats not a stupid question08:10
bazhangNeo4, no joking/ useless answers here08:11
Neo4bazhang: its not important, he can try or not, How he wants08:11
Neo4bazhang: I answered How i can :)08:11
auronandaceNeo4: you needn't answer if you don't have anything senible to say08:12
xplosiffHe may have missed the first message.. there is more to my issue. anyway I'm just checking the disk for defects now, if it passes I will try boot from the usb. The laptop should be OK as it was running 8.1 30mins ago without an issue.08:12
Neo4auronandace: ok, I won't08:12
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jaymamI found that a new install didn't work until I got new graphics drivers. The machine died before I could get them. However, now fixed.08:17
xplosiffJayman: how did you work around that?08:28
netochkahi. how can i stop bluetooth from being enabled on startup?08:35
StreetzHello08:44
Streetz No speak ingles08:45
StreetzHelp!08:45
ducasse!es08:45
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.08:45
netochkahi. how can i stop bluetooth from being enabled on startup?08:56
EoflaOEnetochka, Can you try 'sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove' and reboot?08:58
netochkaill give it a shot08:58
Space-Ducknetochka, go to "Settings" (Dash > type Settings). There should be a Bluetooh options08:58
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CyberZaZahi09:03
netochkaeoflaeo i tried that but it's still on.09:04
CyberZaZawhat happened netochka?09:04
netochkaSpace-Duck there is a bluetooth option. but it's only for turning it on/off. there is no option to disable09:04
EoflaOEnetochka, I will try to look it up.09:05
auronandacenetochka: if you want it off permanantly you could blacklist the bluetooth module09:05
netochkayea i want it to disable it completely so it wouldn't be automatically on everyone i start the system09:06
netochkahow would i blacklist the module. and also, if i blacklist it, will i be able to use it anytime i want?09:08
ledeninetochka, systemctl disable bluetooth.service09:08
netochkaok09:09
ledeninetochka, if you need bluetooth systemctl start bluetooth.service09:10
netochkaupdate-rc.d: error: unable to write /etc/init/bluetooth.override09:10
xplosiffOkay I got past my issue by enabling 'nomodeset' under advanced options (F6) at the main menu. The new issue I am facing is trying to format the disk. Earlier, I shrunk my windows 8.1 volume and left 200gb unallocated, for Ubuntu. In the installer I co to 'Something else' and try to crate a partition on the unallocated space - whenever I select it and try to create a partition, the installer09:10
xplosiffgoes back to the 'Installation Type' page before I can hit OK on the 'Create Partition' window and then all buttons do not do anything but are still animated if I click them - I have to restart.09:10
netochkaledeni i tried that line but this error came up >  update-rc.d: error: unable to write /etc/init/bluetooth.override09:10
ledeninetochka, you using bluetooth right now?09:13
netochkano it's not in use. it's just on by default on startup09:13
netochkai also entered the command line after turning it off but still the same error09:14
Pd1hi folks - stuck on an "invalid partition table" error at boot up. anyone feel like lending a hand?09:15
auronandacePd1: i wouldn't know where to start to help you but i hope you made backups because it sounds likt you'll need them09:16
EriC^^Pd1: do you have a live usb you can boot to troubleshoot?09:17
ledeninetochka, systemctl list-units | fpaste give us url09:20
Pd1sorry, was booted. running into an "invalid partition table" upon boot up - would love any assistance09:21
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netochkaledeni is that a whole command?09:21
EriC^^Pd1: where exactly are you getting that command?09:22
ledeninetochka, 'systemctl list-units | fpaste'09:22
EriC^^ledeni: what's fpaste?09:22
ledeniopps09:22
netochkaNo command 'fpaste' found, did you mean > mpaste or paste09:23
Pd1EriC^^ - right after a seemingly successful install. Upon first boot without install media09:23
netochkashall i use mpaste instead?09:23
EriC^^Pd1: so it doesn't boot into the os ?09:23
Pd1correct09:24
Pd1i'm installing for the first time on this machine09:24
ledeninetochka, yes09:24
ducassenetochka: use pastebinit, should be there by default09:24
EriC^^Pd1: ok, are you in the live usb right now?09:24
netochkait seems that i have to install mpaste first.09:24
netochkaw809:24
EriC^^netochka: no, dont install that09:25
Pd1EriC^^: i can be, yes. am trying 14.4 next, but have had the error with 16 and 17 so far09:25
netochkaok09:25
EriC^^netochka: use 'systemctl .... | nc termbin.com 9999' to paste from the terminal09:25
ledeniEriC^^, thanks09:26
EriC^^Pd1: do you know exactly where you're getting the invalid partition table error? is it in grub? or later in the boot process09:26
EriC^^grub's purple usually09:26
EriC^^ledeni: sure thing09:26
Pd1EriC^^: it's right after POST09:26
Pd1after the RAID screen09:26
EriC^^Pd1: wow so not even grub09:26
netochkalikes this? > systemctl list-units | nc termbin.com 999909:26
EriC^^netochka: yeah09:27
Pd1EriC^^: I saw a support article on Dell's site suggesting a BIOS update would resolve this, but it did not09:27
Pd1EriC^^ 14.4 is officially supported on this machine, so was going to try that next09:28
EriC^^hmm what pc model is it exactly?09:28
Pd1EriC: Dell Precision 581009:28
Pd1dual SSD RAID109:28
EriC^^Pd1: ok, well if it's bios related then all that matters here is bios -> booting grub, and grub is the same on all ubuntu versions09:28
EriC^^are you using uefi?09:28
netochkahttp://termbin.com/0opi09:28
Pd1EriC: believe i'm using legacy09:29
EriC^^Pd1: then it's definitely not version related i'd say09:29
netochkaon a different subject, how can i write down your guys' nicknames by shortcut? so i don' have to write down the nick myself09:29
EriC^^netochka: type the first few letters and hit TAB09:29
netochkaEriC^^: Ty09:30
netochka:D09:30
netochkabeen on irc many years ago. trying to remember stuff09:30
Pd1EriC^^: going through 14.4 install now via USB09:31
EriC^^Pd1: try installing in uefi mode09:32
Pd1EriC^^: "one or more drives containing MDAM containers (Intel/DDF RAID) have been found. Do you wish to activate these RAID devices?"09:32
Pd1i've been saying "Yes" here and on the next screen asking09:33
Pd1to activate Serial ATA RAID Devices09:33
EriC^^Pd1: my guess is as good as yours09:33
EriC^^i would try using uefi mode though09:33
Pd1EriC^^: I did try UEFI mode once without success09:33
akikPd1: if the laptop has a built-in raid controller use that09:33
akikPd1: mdadm is linux's software raid09:33
Pd1akik: this is a hardware RAID controller. desktop09:34
Pd1so should I have said "No" to MDAM containers?09:34
EriC^^won't hurt to try09:34
akikPd1: you'd probably need to set the hardware raid controller first, before the install09:34
EriC^^Pd1: i'd try to install 16.04 in uefi mode and figure out the raid stuff as akik suggested09:35
Pd1akik: i've configured the hardware raid controller09:35
akikPd1: ok so then no mdadm/mdraid needed09:35
Pd1and did try 16.04 in UEFI09:35
Pd1cool. i'll say "no" then'09:35
akikPd1: although now the mdraid signatures might've been written to the disk09:35
Pd1akik: why would it detect and want to activate containers?09:36
akikPd1: the installer probably doesn't know about the hardware raid controller. it just sees a logical device that the hardware raid controller shows09:37
Pd1akik: ok - trying now with "no" on mdadm and "yes" on ATA RAID09:37
greedy_etihi09:39
netochkaguys, how is it that some channels got ## infront of them instead of #?09:39
EriC^^netochka: they're not official channels09:39
netochkai see, thx09:39
greedy_etinetochka: русский ?09:40
EriC^^!ru | greedy_eti09:40
ubottugreedy_eti: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:40
netochkaEriC^^: btw, did u get a chance to check the link?09:40
EriC^^netochka: 1 sec09:40
netochkagreedy_eti i don't speak russian (unfortunately)09:40
greedy_etinetochka: ok sorry09:40
netochkanp09:41
Pd1EriC^^: invalid partition table09:44
Pd1akik: same09:44
EriC^^Pd1: akik maybe answering no to both questions?09:45
akikPd1: does the installer show you ata raid as the hardware raid logical device?09:45
EriC^^netochka: you're trying to disable bluetooth from starting?09:45
Pd1EriC^^: will try that next time09:45
akik+09:46
Pd1akik: installer showed raid device with the correct GB09:46
Pd1going back to 16 now09:46
netochkayes. i don't want it to be ON automatically everytime i start the system.09:46
Pd1will try no/no there09:46
akikPd1: but where do you see ata raid?09:46
EriC^^Pd1: cool, try with uefi mode, maybe using refind or some other trick would help get it booting09:47
Pd1akik: ata raid disks was the question after mdadm09:47
akikPd1: i'm pretty sure if you have a hardware raid contoller and use it, then say no to the installer's raid questions. it's already setup09:48
Pd1EriC^^: i'm going into my raid controller and removing then re-adding the partitions before installing09:48
EriC^^netochka: give this a shot https://askubuntu.com/questions/67758/how-can-i-deactivate-bluetooth-on-system-startup09:48
Pd1akik: will try no/no - have been saying "yes" because the installer says it detects the hardware/disks09:49
netochkaty09:49
akikPd1: some fake raid controllers even worked in a way that even if you setup the fakeraid controller, the installer saw both disks as separate09:49
Pd1killing raid volume and recreating now09:51
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akikPd1: of course it's hard to known precisely as i don't have that kind of new hardware :)09:52
Pd1EriC^^: i'm in UEFI now09:52
Pd1choose "install ubuntu server" or OEM install?09:53
akikPd1: the first09:53
Pd1ok09:53
Pd1chose no/no09:55
Pd1Guided - use entire disk? or guided - use entire disk and set up LVM?09:56
Pd1or encrypted, or manual?09:56
akikPd1: just try the entire disk now09:56
akikPd1: lvm is a system which lets you enlarge logical volumes when you add new storage09:57
Pd1ok - next screen sees Raid1 device #126 - 486.5 gb software raid device09:57
Pd1pretty sure mine is hardware...detecting software raid device here tho09:57
akikPd1: that is a sign that the installer sees the mdadm signatures09:57
Pd1i said "no" on mdadm..09:58
akikPd1: you'd need to erase them09:58
akikPd1: they were written on the disk when you selected yes :)09:58
Pd1ugh! but wouldn't it be wiped when i removed the Volume on the raid controller?09:58
akikPd1: probably(?)09:59
EriC^^my guess is no cause they're software raids and the other are hardware?09:59
netochkaEriC^^:  ty that worked09:59
Pd1should i bail? or continue?09:59
EriC^^netochka: great, no problem10:00
akikPd1: i've used this command before to handle that: mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX10:00
akikPd1: you'd need to run it from a live session10:01
Pd1not sure how to get to a live session command line..10:01
akikPd1: you can use the terminal in a live session10:02
Pd1i'm continuing this install to see if no/no changes anything...then will wipe mdadm10:03
Pd1can i get to terminal using this boot usb?10:03
EriC^^Pd1: yeah, you select 'try ubuntu' in the grub menu10:03
Pd1thanks10:03
Pd1then just paste in: --zero-superblock /dev/sdX ?10:04
akikPd1: use "sudo parted -l" to see the device name. the command is mdadm10:04
EriC^^Pd1: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX     (replace sdX with the disk name from 'sudo parted -ls' output)10:05
Pd1got it10:05
Pd1wrapping up a likely failed install now :)10:05
akikPd1: if you setup the hardware raid controller, you should only see one storage device name (if you have two disks in raid1)10:07
Pd1akik: that's correct10:08
Pd1i only see 1 device (other than USB) in the setup10:08
Pd1install complete10:09
Pd1moment of truth10:09
Pd1different error now. "no boot device found"10:10
EriC^^Pd1: nice, progress10:10
EriC^^Pd1: try looking in the bios for a uefi boot order list10:10
EriC^^or a 'trust' option possibly10:10
Pd1hmm. looking at boot sequence now10:11
Pd1i see Boot List Option of Legacy or UEFI10:11
Pd1set to Legacy10:11
Pd1suspect i should change to UEFI10:11
EriC^^Pd1: yeah10:12
Pd1it sees ubuntu10:12
Pd1let's try this10:12
Pd1holy moses10:13
Pd1booting now10:13
Pd1i don't even know what to do10:13
Pd1lol10:13
akikcongrats! :)10:14
Pd1man, thank you guys10:14
Pd1been cranking on this for hours10:14
Pd1with no luck10:14
teasp00nhey guys. im having an issue with apt-get uggrade returning 404s for a couple of the repos. it appears to be looking for arm64 binaries that aren't there. i am on an x86_64 machine so im not sure why it is looking at those anyway. console output here: https://pastebin.com/GzhzLLxc10:14
akikPd1: it's safe to say "we've all been there"10:14
EriC^^Pd1: np, enjoy! :D10:14
Pd1akik: thank you EriC^^: thank you!10:14
netochkaare there any other free softwares to bypass filters/hide ip rather than Tor?10:14
EriC^^teasp00n: pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'10:15
teasp00nEriC^^: https://pastebin.com/wRDNcK0T10:19
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teasp00nthere are a bunch of lists in sources.list.d/ too10:19
teasp00nit was fine the other day, then i did an upgrade that im pretty sure included an upgrade to apt itself. now i have woes haha10:20
EriC^^teasp00n: pastebin the output of 'tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*'10:22
EriC^^teasp00n: also try 'dpkg --print-foreign-architectures' and see what it prints10:24
teasp00nEriC^^: https://pastebin.com/E5ndGX2f10:24
teasp00nwill try that now10:24
teasp00nEriC^^: i386, arm6410:25
teasp00n--print-architecture is amd64 which is correct10:25
EriC^^teasp00n: if you don't need the arm64 one run 'sudo dpkg --remove-architecture arm64'10:27
netochkaEriC^^:  i started a download using wget. but i closed the terminal by accicent. is the download still active in the background? if yes. how can i see the process10:28
EriC^^netochka: nope it's gone10:28
Triffid_Hunternetochka: nope it's cancelled unless you're using screen or tmux or something like that10:28
netochkaah ok.10:28
EriC^^netochka: 'ps aux | grep wget' should confirm10:28
netochkaare those like download apps?10:29
Triffid_Hunternetochka: no, they're (loosely) terminal-preservation apps10:29
teasp00nok cool i think it should be safe to run that. out of interest why woudl i ever want a foreign architecture there? is that only if i need to cross compile for an arm device and need to link on some .so or something?10:29
EriC^^teasp00n: yeah i believe so10:29
netochkaI see10:29
netochkai seriously have to find some manual or something for linux basics. concepts and commands n stuff10:30
netochka:D10:30
Triffid_Hunternetochka: plenty of those, but the only way to not get overwhelmed is to take things a step at a time, finding the tools you need for each step10:30
JimBunbtunetochka, I agree with Triffid_Hunter and also say that you should immerse yourself if you want to learn quickly10:31
Triffid_Hunternetochka: screen/tmux style terminal daemons were originally spurred by folks frustrated with trying to interact with servers over unstable internet links, but they have numerous applications for isolated systems too10:31
netochkayea i know what u mean. and it also feels great when u finally figure things out. I'm not going back to windows.10:31
netochkai see10:32
JimBunbtuGASP! Vindows10:32
netochkais it like some kind of resume support?10:32
JimBunbtuSeriously though, each OS has it's place, and I leave most of them in the past10:32
netochkaJimBunbtu: yeppers10:32
Triffid_Hunternetochka: no, it literally generates an entirely new terminal in which to run programs, and from your current terminal you can attach/detach at will10:33
JimBunbtuTriffid_Hunter, do you prefer tmux or screen? (I'm a tmux user)10:33
netochkaI was fed up with windows. all the programs which you either have to buy or use cracked version10:33
netochkaTriffid_Hunter: Aha. Got it10:33
Triffid_HunterJimBunbtu: I'm familiar with screen, but having looked at its source once (warning; it's godawful spaghetti) I'm keen to try tmux10:33
Triffid_Hunterjust haven't found the time and inclination to put myself through the relearning yet10:34
JimBunbtuTriffid_Hunter, nice. I wouldn't argue either way, simply interested to know. Either one is a great habit to develop.10:34
netochkaI've got a file in my Home, Release.key. and it's entirely code. what's that?10:35
Triffid_HunterJimBunbtu: I feel like screen development has stalled because it's too hard to develop due to the code structure.. I also feel that the use of any utility that performs this function is better than nothing for a wide range of tasks10:36
Triffid_Hunternetochka: rename it and see what barfs?10:36
netochkarename it to what?10:37
netochkawhat kind of format10:37
JimBunbtuTriffid_Hunter, I agree on both accounts. I see no reason for arguments on the lines of VIM or EMACS, TMUX or SCREEN and such.10:37
JimBunbtunetochka, I am not familiar with "Release.Key"10:37
netochkaI tried running with Wine. It probably has something to do with that10:38
netochkarunning something*10:38
JimBunbtunetochka, if you open the file, does it start with something about PGP ?10:39
netochkaI didn't get to that part. terminal showed some error and i gave up. at least for now10:39
netochkait was a windows program Psiphon. for bypassing the filters10:40
netochkaTor gets so slow sometimes so i am looking for altenatives10:40
netochkaJimBunbtu:  i just looked again. and the file opens as Text. it says -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- and the rest is just codes like encrypted txt10:42
JimBunbtuIt's actually an encryption key... specifically a PGP key.10:42
netochkaSo it need to be there? no need to touch it?10:43
JimBunbtunetochka, probably created by something you installed10:43
JimBunbtunetochka, No need to touch it10:43
JimBunbtunetochka, BTW... `touch` is a command, yet another of those ones you may want to learn a bit about... `man touch`10:43
netochka:D10:46
netochkaTy for the info10:46
JimBunbtunp,yw10:47
xplosiffAfter some messing around I got the OS to install. It never ends.10:56
xplosiffNow when I log in, screen goes dark, I hear a low pitched ding and it kicks me back to the login page. My password is correct.10:57
Triffid_Hunterxplosiff: that definitely sounds like session crashing, check ~/.xsession-errors10:57
xplosiffLooks like a dark terminal flashing up.10:57
xplosiffctrl+alt+t does not work, as it has only just booted up, how do I access terminal on the lock screen10:58
JimBunbtuCtrl-Shift-Number10:58
JimBunbtusorry... ctrl-alt-number10:58
xplosiffnumber??10:59
JimBunbtuFunction key number as in Ctrl-Alt-F410:59
xplosiffaha10:59
xplosiffalright got into terminal, going to try that command now10:59
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xplosiffit made me log in, and accepted user and password, but it says permission denied11:00
JimBunbtupermission denied when you try looking at ~.xsession-errors? Tru with sudo11:00
xplosiffsorry I type sudo ~/.xsession-errors - and it asked for my password but said command not found11:03
JimBunbtu`sudo cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999`11:04
JimBunbtuthe above will provide you with a URL that you should paste into here, so others can see the contents of the file11:04
xplosiffhttp://termbin.com/4lus11:05
JimBunbtuI see it. Not sure what to make of the error so early on.11:06
Triffid_Hunterwhat's brltty?11:07
xplosiffI was logged on not 5 minutes ago, I restarted as I just updated the intel graphics drivers using the intel graphics update tool (v2.0.2) - I can't see how that would have anything to do with it but it may do. this is a fresh install11:08
JimBunbtuTriffid_Hunter, background deamon for login/txt mode11:08
JimBunbtuGraphics drivers are known to cause this login-loop issue11:08
brainwash!info brltty11:09
ubottubrltty (source: brltty): Access software for a blind person using a braille display. In component main, is extra. Version 5.4-7ubuntu4 (artful), package size 1133 kB, installed size 7156 kB11:09
xplosiff'unity7 pre-start process (2932) terminated with status 143' may be something to do with that, since this is where it tries to initialize the GUI11:10
anarchoHi all! Can anyone help with getting bluetooth working in Kubuntu 17.10 running in virtbox? Thanks11:12
xplosiffanother note - when I type logout in the terminal, it says failed to remove key (1, ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff) from hardware (-22), I don't know if it means anything or if something is corrupted.11:14
JimBunbtuxplosiff, Fairly certain that is a distinct issue, related to the network.11:16
JimBunbtuxplosiff, Did you only update the graphics module(s) or did you have to update your kernel as well?11:17
xplosiffWhat I did, since the fresh install of 16.04, is go straight to settings/about and do an update which took a while. I then restarted, and downloaded that tool from (https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2) for the graphics drivers for my i7-4xxx and HD4600 graphics, which appeared to do everything automatically, restarted and this is where I am.11:20
JimBunbtuxplosiff, "This tool aims to make the latest Intel® Graphics Stack available before it gets officially released by Linux* OS vendors." *before it gets officially released* is probably where the issue is11:22
xplosiffAha. I would have left it, but the default drivers were near unusable as it was like watching a slideshow, I could see every frame of each animated object as I moved the mouse across it. What should I have done to update the intel drivers?11:23
JimBunbtuxplosiff, Did you use the qdebi tool?11:23
BluesKajHi folks11:23
JimBunbtuHiya BluesKaj11:23
xplosiffNo never heard of that Jim11:23
BluesKajhi JimBunbtu11:24
JimBunbtuxplosiff, I am reading the page from the link you provided and it says for a successful install, you need to download/install/use the qdebi tool to install the Intel drivers11:24
xplosiffaha so I didn't read it properly. I probably didn't get that far through the procedure as it required a restart after running that package11:27
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JimBunbtuxplosiff, Well, I still say graphics drivers can foul up pretty bad... but it may be worth a shot to re-try the install while following the qdebi instructions11:27
xplosiffLooking through the gdebi instructions, I don't think they were relevant to me as I was able to launch and run the package fine. Is there a way I can run some sort of hardware/driver test from the terminal?11:33
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JimBunbtuxplosiff, I am not sure. I wouldn't assume the install worked properly simply because you were able to run the install without seeing obvious error messages though.11:39
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irgendwer4711how to compile a meltdown/spectre secure kernel? I took config of 4.4.0-112-generic and compiled myself. this kernel is not like the stock kernel 4.4.0-112-generic. why?11:54
brainwashirgendwer4711: I would ask in #ubuntu-kernel11:57
irgendwer4711good idea11:57
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Tecanwas wondering if anyone knows how to get to init 3 from grub ?12:06
Tecanor to turn off the graphics when booting12:07
akikTecan: which ubuntu version?12:07
Tecan1712:07
Tecan.1012:07
Tecanim trying to boot the live version12:07
Tecanon a tablet :)12:08
akikTecan: you can set the default "run-level" in systemd with: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target12:08
akikTecan: systemd doesn't have runlevels anymore12:08
akikTecan: it's possible to add the parameter at the grub boot level also12:08
Tecan3 ?12:08
akikTecan: hold on12:08
akikTecan: systemd.unit=multi-user.target12:09
Tecantried adding just a 3 to the e menu of grub. i have the live version on a usb drive12:09
Tecanput that in grub under initrd ?12:09
akikTecan: that -^ is a kernel parameter you need to edit in grub12:09
markus__is it possible to create cloudwatch event , which trigger a lambda function , from android app? please help12:09
JimBunbtumarkus__, sure it's possible12:10
markus__@jimbunbtu can you please guide me to some tutorial or documentation.12:11
JimBunbtuAWS has decent documentation in their mobile SDK. I presume you want to write your own app to do this... otherwise, you could use the AWS console app12:11
Tecanoh i see to the kernel boot line12:12
JimBunbtumarkus__, It's a bit off-topic for this channel, but here is the URL for the Android SDK https://aws.amazon.com/mobile/resources/12:13
dreamcat4JimBunbtu: there are multiple channels specifically for android on freenode /msg alis search *android*12:15
JimBunbtudreamcat4, Yes, I know, I'm not the one seeking it. markus__  please see the above from dreamcat412:16
markus__i have checked the link you provided but it doesn't have any class to create cloudwatch event. i tried to get help in official channel ##aws but no help. i mistakenly posted the question on this channel and you answered!!12:16
JimBunbtuI'm also only guessing they were looking for android info. I gave the link for mobile in general and mispoke12:16
dreamcat4...err sorry. anyhow the command should be list not search. sorry.12:16
UBURoiHI there good people forme the ubuntu realm12:16
dreamcat4as in /msg alis list *android*12:16
JimBunbtuno worries dreamcat4  You provided appropriate help :-D What more could any of us ask for?12:17
markus__@dreamcat4 i will try that12:17
markus__thanks @jimbunbtu and @dreamcat412:17
JimBunbtuyw markus__  and remember, patience. The #aws channel may take a while to reply, but there should be a reply eventually12:18
UBURoiSo where/who could i ask for advice ?12:18
JimBunbtu!ask | UBURoi12:18
ubottuUBURoi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:18
dreamcat4i think the channel you need markus__ is probably #android-dev it has about 300 users in it12:19
markus__ok12:20
UBURoiUmm yes legit; so im trying to solve this apparently quite common problem that is headphone arent working; i tried some code but resulted in catastrophic failure that made me reinstall ubu 16.0412:20
JimBunbtuUBURoi, I will probably not be able to help directly, but I can ask the questions for others... Make and model of computer or sound card,... are you using ALSA or Pulseaudio? Is it only that the headphones don't work or no audio at all? Does the computer think it's working fine but you don't hear the audio or does your sound settings show audio is disabled?12:23
UBURoiI actually checked pulse audio and all seems fine12:24
JimBunbtuUBURoi, There is an "official" procedure that may prove useful - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure12:24
UBURoiThanks, lets check this12:25
Tecaninit=/bin/sh worked12:26
Tecanin the grub options12:26
UBURoiI learned to avoid code things i do not understand12:27
oerheksTecan, why asking and ignoring the good answer systemctl set-default multi-user.target?12:28
akikTecan: what happened with systemd.unit=multi-user.target ?12:28
UBURoiAlsamixer detect headphones12:33
UBURoibut no sound in them12:34
Borw3UBURoi: Maybe earphones is dead?12:34
Borw3UBURoi: Or earphones slot is dead?12:35
UBURoithe helmet is as good as new12:35
UBURoihowever the slot? I assume that if it does detect the jack it's working12:36
Tecannot sure if my last message was sent12:45
Tecan<Tecan> did not work as expected seems i need to delete vesa_drv.so12:45
Tecan<Tecan> tried video=LCD1 and nomodeset12:45
Tecanhow would i finish booting after i set init=/bin/sh in grub ?12:49
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Tecansystemctl12:49
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oerheksno idea, you ignored the good answer12:50
Tecansystemctl says failed to connect to bus.12:53
EriC^^Tecan: i'm not sure you can, you'd have to start systemd or something12:56
EriC^^Tecan: just reboot?12:56
Tecanits a live image12:57
EriC^^Tecan: what are you trying to do?12:57
Tecanjust delete vesa_drv.so and boot12:57
EriC^^delete from your main os install?12:58
Tecanfrom the live image image12:58
Tecani can do it manually everytime12:58
jmartelatpapiruxI have a problem with a USB headset. I experienced jittering when using it from performous (rhythm game) and OBS(record-stream frontend) at the same time. So I killed pulseaudio and let it respawn, then unplugged and plugged back the USB headset. Now its microphone gives pure, unbiased silence to anything I can think of using to record audio. I think both OBS and performous were using alsa pulse plugin.12:59
EriC^^Tecan: why don't you blacklist the module from grub?13:00
EriC^^modprobe.blacklist=vesa_drv13:00
Tecanhmmm , tried it not sure if it worked though. im going to have to try installing to usb rather than live13:05
EriC^^sounds good13:06
TecanGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=”text”   might work too i seem to be able to see that on the drive itself13:06
Tecanfor the live image13:07
EriC^^which ubuntu version is it?13:07
Tecan17.1013:08
Tecantrying to get it working with a teclast x8013:08
EriC^^did you try systemd.unit=multi-user.target ?13:09
Tecandid yes13:10
akikTecan: and?13:11
UBURoiI checked with pavucotrol13:12
Tecantrying it again, but it came up blank screen last time.13:12
Tecani need a hdmi mini port to see13:12
UBURoiit said that they recognize the headseat (plugged in) and i can even see the volume moving but nothing throught the helmet13:12
Tecanwaiting for it in the mail13:12
akikTecan: what kind of display are you using now?13:17
Tecanthe 8" screen on the teclast x8013:18
Tecantried systemd.unit=multi-user-target and video=LCD1 at the same time too and nogo13:19
fradI used flowblade to trim a video, but I cannot export it to its original mkv format13:19
fradhow do I export it to mkv?13:19
Tecanluckily i have a usb2 displaylink adapter13:20
Tecanlets see if that works13:20
baba_I need to activate a driver quirk that has no corresponding letter or flag.....how is that done?13:20
ScioMinHi. I'm using Lubuntu 16.04 and would like to know how can I change background image after disabled desktop manager?13:26
ScioMinIt still shows my old desktop background but when I launch desktop settings it quits with message: "No dekstop manager"13:27
oerheksScioMin, isn't that what the DM is for?13:28
ScioMinoerheks, i don't want a desktop manager. just a background image.13:28
ScioMinoerheks, and despite not having a DM it still shows a background image.13:28
ScioMini'll investigate the proccess using xprop and clicking the background13:29
Coon_I just installed Ubuntu 16.4.3 and when I open anything I can move my mouse around but can't close any open windows it's like it's froze13:31
DiecastMessiahScioMin: there is a command but i think it using lightDM but you can change the config file here i believe .conf files in '~/.config/pcmanfm/LXDE/.'13:33
ScioMinDiecastMessiah, AWESOME!!! cat ~/.config/pcmanfm/lubuntu/desktop-items-0.conf found a line with "wallpaper=/media/dev/Data/gdrive/pics/wallpapers/1e88ac36019933.570c91b0dc2b5.jpg"13:35
ScioMinDiecastMessiah, ty sir13:36
oerheksmaybe this page is any help > /etc/xdg/pcmanfm/lubuntu/pcmanfm.conf --- https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/34977192/13:36
DiecastMessiahScioMin: no problem13:36
oerheksoh, that should work too, per user13:36
ScioMinoerheks, it does too. thankyou13:36
Coon_I open something I can't close it I can't move open window around and I can't open anything else13:38
urkourko13:39
tomreynCoon_: what's your hardware (anything special or old)?13:49
tomreynCoon_: did the installation succeed without errors?13:50
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noethicshttps://pastebin.com/raw/d0YWGhCY13:57
tomreyn^spam, ignore13:58
mojtabaHello, Do you know how can I run alias commands in a bash script?14:03
DiecastMessiahmojtaba: this may help https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1496/why-doesnt-my-bash-script-recognize-aliases14:06
mojtabaDiecastMessiah: Thanks. I will check.14:06
oerhekssourcing the script:  source script.sh https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15968053/using-alias-in-shell-script14:06
geirhaaliases are disabled in scripts. Use functions instead14:06
CyberZaZa!14:06
geirhaFor almost every purpose, aliases are superseded by shell functions.14:09
mojtabageirha: Can you send a link as an example?14:15
geirhahttp://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CompoundCommands#Functions14:18
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oerheksgeirha, sourcing the script runs the code in a subshell, or is this wrong?14:30
geirhano, the point of sourcing is to run it in the same shell14:30
Nachos11geirha: never understood all of the alias-hate.14:31
Nachos11why not put aliases in shell script?14:32
geirhathey're mainly meant for interactive use. Functions are superior in that they act like regular commands, and take arguments14:33
meandrainhi, any idea how to disable utf8 in console (ubuntu 16.04) ?15:02
Katronixhi all, I just installed 16.04LTS on a low powered machine. To help it I also installed LXDE, on top of Unity. At my login screen I do not get the Window Manager option icon to choose a window manager, any suggestions on what I can do?15:04
blackflowmeandrain: change locale? dpkg-reconfigure locales15:04
meandrainblackflow: thanx15:06
Katronixany ideas?15:08
DiecastMessiahKatronix just give it another bit I am sure someone will help in a bit... I looking into also because i plan on installing LXDE on top of unity so i really would like to know myself15:10
blackflowKatronix: iirc you had to click that link to change username, and in the resulting form there shuold be the session selection cog15:10
blackflow"Not listed?"  that15:11
Katronixblackflow, okay I thought there used to be an icon next to my name where I could choose it from15:12
Katronixbut will look for it next time I log in :) thanks for the help15:12
blackflowthe cog is left of the "sign in" button, but it's not there always, you have to reset the form by clicking "Not listed". thats what I recall that is. Didn't spend much time looking for alternative solution15:12
Euph0riaStill somewhat new to Linux/ubuntu.  Question about file-systems.  Does EXT4 or a similar fs support on the fly file compression?  I don't mean like btrfs, xfs, zfs or other more elaborate file systems on linux.15:18
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DoctorPainless_NHi all, I need some help. My problem is that I'm new to IRC and used Koversation and registered my nickname (DoctorPainless) and also verified it with the mail I became. Now I've switched to HexChat and I want to use that same nickname as before but as soon as I enter freenode it says nickname allready in use and it uses my second choice (this name). How do I get my old nick back ?15:24
Euph0riaDoctorPainless_N: Try #hexchat15:24
Jerusalemghost ur nickname15:24
Euph0riaDoctorPainless_N: and try #freenode15:25
Euph0rianot on topic for Ubuntu.15:25
DoctorPainless_N.15:26
DiecastMessiahDoctorPainless_N: you need to identif yourself.. one sec looking for the command15:26
Jerusalem/msg NickServ ghost DoctorPainless PasswordHERE15:27
DiecastMessiahmsg nickserv identify <yourpassword> with a slash15:27
KaiForceI'm building a procedure for upgrading a server from the 14 LTS version to 16, and I'm not sure what to do with phpmyadmin.  I'm getting prompted for the remote server running mysql, but it should be this server.  Anyone know how to properly upgrade phpmyadmin?15:27
Euph0riaYes, you guys spend 30 mins explaining nickserv here, and a legit question gets ignored.  lol15:28
Jerusalemlol15:28
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DoctorPainless_NSo, it says I've been ghosted but I'm still DoctorPainless_N instead of DoctorPainless15:29
blackflowDoctorPainless_N: change your /nick then?15:30
blackflowit won't change by itself15:30
Euph0rialmfao15:31
DoctorPainless_Nwhat do I need to do ?15:31
Euph0riaKeep going folks.  I'm gonna go make popcorn.15:31
blackflow /nick DoctorPainless15:31
Jerusalem/nick DoctorPainless15:31
JerusalemLOL15:31
JerusalemEuph0ria please nescafee too :P15:31
DiecastMessiahalso there should be an area to set in your password in hexchat so you will not need to identify everytime but really all this stuff is easy to google search for15:32
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JerusalemDoctorPainless Violaaaa welcome back :P15:34
Nachos11DiecastMessiah: there is...15:34
KaiForceEuph0ria: what was the legit question?  If it was mine, that's OK, I'm just running through a test upgrade, I probably won't touch prod for a couple of weeks.15:34
DoctorPainlessWhooot !!!15:34
DoctorPainless:-) :-)15:34
DoctorPainlessThx guys15:34
KaiForceno problem, enjoy Ubuntu15:35
DoctorPainlessI will15:35
oerheksDiecastMessiah, there is, edit connection, etc15:35
DiecastMessiahoerheks i was telling doctor about it I don;t help lol15:36
DiecastMessiahdon;t need help^15:36
oerheksoh oke, read it wrong then15:36
DiecastMessiahnp15:36
DoctorPainlessI hope I have to never use Windows again for personal usage15:36
oerhekslets stick to ubuntu support please, there is #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat, no need for flamewars15:38
sukhihi15:42
DoctorPainlessZZZ15:46
KaiForcewould it be ok to blow past this phpmyadmin section ("ignore" the error) and just re-install it after the upgrade?15:46
oerheksKaiForce, check the releasenotes about php7 and mysql ( Password behavior when the MySQL root password is empty has changed)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes15:49
frag00nhello every115:49
frag00nmy laptop could turn off any second now15:51
CUR10SITYTrying out Mate on RASPI and so far its awesome15:53
CUR10SITYBesides Mozilla FireFox crashing constantly15:54
frag00nlol15:54
DiecastMessiahfrag00n: having a problem?? please give details if need be15:54
frag00nmeanwhile im struggling to find out why my thinkpad keeps shutting down15:54
KaiForceoerheks: ok, thanks, I'm pretty sure root password is not blank but I'll take a look15:54
frag00ni do, but hardware related15:54
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tomreynthere's ##hardware if you're looking for suggestions.15:55
oerheksfrag00n, seen that before, plugged in poweradapter, forgot to plug in wall socket15:56
frag00nwell my tpad works on ac with and without battery15:56
frag00nbut when it is just on the battery it turns off randomly15:56
frag00njust cuts off15:56
frag00njust turned off15:58
frag00nagain15:58
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frag00nthis kinda beats the purpose of having a laptop15:58
Nachos11I love ubuntu.  Everything's so much easier.15:59
frag00ngonna go now guys, dont want to torture this laptop16:00
Nachos11frag00n: which thinkpad?16:00
frag00ni'll try to figure out whats wrong16:00
frag00nx23016:00
DoctorPainlessHi, I've switched to Linux several times but I always somehow went back to Window$$$$ :-( This time I want to make it work, One of the issues I have in the past is the feeling of missing control of stuff. That is, sometimes I try things out to make something work and I'm installing a lot of programms and stuff and then the thing doesn't work (for instance hardware) but there seems to be a lot of software installed that I then16:00
DoctorPainlesswon't be needing...... this gives me an unpleasant feeling of not being in control. Can anyone suggest me on this ?16:00
Nachos11could it be thermal?16:00
frag00ni bought it with freshly put thermal paste a few weeks ago16:01
frag00nbut dunno, could be16:01
DiecastMessiahfrag00n what ubuntu you using it maybe a problem with idle i had odd problem like that years ago16:01
Nachos11try watching your temps.16:01
Nachos11I think the package is lm-sensors.16:01
frag00n16.04, but it turns off on pretty much all distros i tried16:01
frag00nthis just started today16:01
frag00nwhen it was in my lap16:02
tomreynDoctorPainless: can you provide a specific example? maybe just come here and ask when you hit one next time.16:03
frag00nalso i am looking at my temps16:05
frag00nthey seem p normal16:05
frag00nstill hasnt turned off16:06
frag00nmiracle16:06
tomreynDoctorPainless: in general, you actually get to have a lot more control when using open source software. but i admit that's only so once you learnt how to modify it. graphical user interfaces can be lacking on some graphical desktops and on some applications so sometimes you may need to resort to workin on a terminal and editing configuration files. personally i like it this way.16:06
DoctorPainlesstomreyn: for example I have a RPI and a USB WIFI that I wanted to use. I visited several websites with tips to install stuff / change configurations but in the end it didn't work out16:06
KaiForcefrag00n: reseat RAM or run memtest16:06
frag00nalright, will do16:07
DoctorPainlesstomreyn: I try to use the terminal as much as i can16:07
tomreynDoctorPainless: maybe try ubuntu on an amd64 architecture first of all. other architectures and ports aren't always as easy to use.16:08
DoctorPainlesstomreyn: i will take a look at the history file of my RPI and give you the example. Can't do it right now, I'll come back for that16:09
scotlandko16:19
scotlandnorth korea is dangerous16:23
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oerheks!ot | scotland16:25
ubottuscotland: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:25
server_yo16:28
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juliotrbtest16:51
juliotrbhello guys, can someone give me a hand with bash scripting?16:52
DiecastMessiah*test command working16:52
eukaryotehi!16:53
DiecastMessiahJuliotrb best to ask the question if stuck .. but if it purly about learning bash I would try on a different channel like #linux16:54
DoctorPainlessHow do I install a specific printer under Ubuntu ? (and is there a way to do this command line ?)16:55
juliotrb@DiecastMessiah yes i do that16:55
juliotrbbut i cna't write on dthat channel16:55
DiecastMessiahoh ok.. and sorry i meant before.. it best to just ask the question, than to ask if you can ask16:56
akikjuliotrb: you probably need to register and identify with your nick16:56
akikjuliotrb: in the mean time, what's your problem with bash?16:57
KaiForceI wonder if my phpadmin upgrade problem is because do-release-upgrade runs phpmyadmin upgrade first, then mysql?16:57
juliotrbakik, well, i have this sentence --- db2 list database directory | grep "Database alias" | awk {'print $4'}  ---16:57
akikjuliotrb: you should add "grep -v grep" so that the process list doesn't list grep itself16:58
juliotrbit give me 4 results16:59
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juliotrband i want to assign that results to a variable16:59
juliotrbdatabases =db2 list database directory | grep "Database alias" | awk {'print $4'}17:00
akikjuliotrb: maybe something like: for i in `db2 list ...`; do command1 etc.; done17:00
akikjuliotrb: but yea maybe this is better for #bash and not here17:01
KaiForcedoes anyone know why interface names changed in 16.04.3 (i.e. eth0 => ens160 or similar?)17:01
juliotrbyep =P17:01
akikKaiForce: it's because of systemd's predictable network interface naming17:01
juliotrbwell but thanks akik17:01
akikKaiForce: you can get the old naming back with kernel parameter net.ifnames=017:01
KaiForceakik:  thanks, I was curious.  I use another distro for firewalling and I actually script the interface names based on MAC address, but I wonder how many non-tech people have broken networking after an upgrade17:03
akikthe only constant thing is change17:03
KaiForceand math17:04
Loshkiand const declarations17:07
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alan_hai17:13
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airkingHello! I need to insert a line into a file.  I know the content of the preceeding line and the line number, how could I do this?17:15
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DiecastMessiahairking not 100& sure but you may need to read up on cat command17:17
newuserisMy DPMS is not working despite having file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf  --> containing https://gist.github.com/anonymous/061f49cf50d4fee97aeb6481c5a01e0a17:17
DiecastMessiahif you want to be able to do from termial i think17:17
airkingDiecastMessiah: I was looking at sed, and have a command written, but it doesn't work17:17
Guest87492kk17:18
airkingDiecastMessiah: sed 's/0 => 'localhost',/0 => 'localhost',\n1 => 'new.url.thing',/' nextcloud/config/config.php17:18
airkingDoesn't seem to work17:18
ubuntu-matewhats up17:19
DiecastMessiahairking sorry that over my head will have to wait for another to answer17:20
sh17w0|fairking this seems like the obvious answer but you cant pull the file up with vim and edit?17:20
airkingsh17w0|f: this is part of a script I'm writing to reset this piece of software i'm working with back to an initial install17:21
airkingsh17w0|f: I'm trying to avoid opening the file and editing it every time17:21
sh17w0|fairking ah ok17:21
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airkingsh17w0|f: Got it with an awk query17:25
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DarkinhaHallo.17:28
DarkinhaWhat about installing dual boot with minimal instalation?17:28
DarkinhaAny tips? Is it straightfoward?17:28
striveDarkinha: Dualbooing with Windows?17:30
DarkinhaOh, yeah, ya!17:30
DarkinhaI have windows 7 installed.17:30
striveDarkinha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot17:30
DarkinhaI pretty much need to install through the minimal instalation.17:30
DarkinhaI wanted to know if there is a option down there, that make things easier.17:30
striveDarkinha: Minimal installation should still provide a straight-forward GUI.17:31
DarkinhaWith the option of dualboot?17:31
DarkinhaI remember this option on the main .iso.17:31
DarkinhaInstall aside windows.17:31
DarkinhaOption.17:31
DarkinhaAlongside.17:32
striveI haven't installed Ubuntu in a long time, but it should have a "Install alongside Windows" option.17:32
DarkinhaOh, nice.17:32
DarkinhaEven in the minimal, that is good to know.17:32
striveThere's only one way to find out...17:32
DarkinhaYeah, I want to try it.17:32
DarkinhaI am setting up the usb.17:33
DarkinhaSoon, I will say here if there is this option too in the minimal.17:33
striveI use to use minimal install so that I have to option on what to install.17:33
strivewhat packages to install, rather.17:33
sh17w0|fairking nice. trying to figure out why sed didnt work17:34
Boarders_Hi, I want to be able to test builds on a fresh linux environment and am just setting up virtual box to do that from my mac17:35
Boarders_is that the correct thing to be doing or do people here have other recommendations?17:35
kaleidoscopehi everyone, need some help understanding ubuntu server. for some reason, my ubuntu server automagically assigns itself 192.168.1.12 on my network, without any static IP or static DHCP do it? how does this work? and can i remove it?17:35
akikBoarders_: have you checked out vagrant?17:35
akikBoarders_: another choice could be lxd17:36
Boarders_cool, i'll give them a look17:37
u0_a123Hello :)17:38
treadheadu0_a123, hello17:38
u0_a123@treahead are you using desktop to chat here?17:39
treadheadu0_a123, yes why?17:39
treadheadhexchat on mate-desktop17:40
u0_a123cause i'm using weechat in termux app on android :)17:40
Sven_vB_udisksd seems to spike CPU usage every few seconds. is there an easy way to watch what it's doing?17:41
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flux242is it normal that there's no battery level info shown by 'upower -d' for a bt headset? BT mouse info battery level info is shown but not for the headset. Or am I missing some packages?17:42
treadheadu0_a123, ive never used android for irc! ive heard of other people doing it but it always seems a bit hardcore too me17:42
Sven_vBflux242, yeah my BT headphones also have no power level reporting. I was quite disappointed since I bought a famous brand so I expected that.17:43
u0_a123@treadhead yeah,but its easier than you think17:44
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flux242Sven_vB: do some have such reporting?17:44
Sven_vBflux242, dunno.17:45
flux242Sven_vB: have you tried it with android?17:45
Sven_vBflux242, nope17:45
kaleidoscopewhile i'm glad i can still ssh into ubuntu-server without finding the same address, i want a bit more control on what ip address every device gets, and i want to do this on the router that handles this function, not ubuntu. i'm still confused on how normal everything despite this action. any ideas.?17:46
T4P4N@bhujay are you indian bro?17:47
akikkaleidoscope: if your router hands out the ip addresses, it can also keep list of the used mac addresses and always give out the same ip for each device17:48
bhujayy17:49
DiecastMessiahkaleidoscope that should be on your normal settings on the router.. most have it set default to set ip everything it connects.. but there is a way to set the ip17:49
treadheadakik, my router does that - very handy17:49
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kaleidoscopeakik + DiecastMessiah: I agree with both of you, but see, I changed firmwares sometimes (AdvancedTomato <-> DD-WRT) without recovering the settings and the router still seems to remember to assign the 'correct' ip address for my server.17:52
Sven_vBwell, anyone who has the same problem: sudo systemctl mask udisks2.service && sudo systemctl stop udisks2.service; remember to re-enable it later when you can afford the CPU load.17:53
Tapanyo17:53
Tapananybody here?17:54
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NEOX404HI17:54
Tapanthats unfair17:54
NEOX404why?17:54
Tapanbecause thats my name17:55
Tapan(。ŏ_ŏ)17:55
TapanΣ(O_O;)17:55
NEOX404and you are using my name!17:55
Tapancant we use onion i r c in termux?17:55
Tapanexut17:56
Tapanexit17:56
NEOX404i don't know ! but try googling17:56
oerheksuhh...17:56
oerheks!google17:56
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:56
dsaravananunity and ubuntu-desktop is deinstalled after recent update in ubuntu 16.0417:57
dsaravananhow to fix it17:57
EriC^^dsaravanan: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop17:57
oerheksupdate removes desktop, that is new to me17:57
oerheksupgrade to 17.10 it would remove unity17:58
dsaravanani meant the compiz update on 02/15/2018 broke unity.18:00
urbihiű18:01
urbihy18:01
dsaravananshould I wait for the official ubuntu fix?18:02
kaleidoscopeah, whatever, i think i'll go setup up static DHCP anyways18:03
kaleidoscopethanks for the advice guys :)18:04
oerheksdsaravanan, ah, known issue, reinstall ubuntu-desktop https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006621/2-15-18-compiz-update-broke-unity18:04
oerheksmake sure xenial-proposed is disabled18:04
tapaniki have ubuntu and 16gig ram, now only chrome and 2 tabs open. System takes 5 gig ram .18:07
tapanikeven 16gig ram, ubuntu took all18:08
tapanikbooted and helps18:08
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oerheksi have noted latest google-chrome is buggy, 10 zombies overnight.18:09
oerhekscould be a plugin, ghostery or others18:09
Sven_vBtapanik, RAM use shouldn't be a problem unless there's a shortage.18:10
oerheksopen terminal: top # and see if there are zombies18:10
Sven_vBtapanik, as long as new allocation requests can be served, why should your OS even bother cleaning up?18:10
tapaniki dont mind, bad memories from windows times18:11
tapanik0 zombies18:11
Sven_vBtapanik, afaik windows and linux have different concepts of "used". you'll probably need to subtract the "buffers/cache" part. run "free -m" and check the "-/+ buffers/cache" line.18:14
Sven_vBmy ubuntu currently has more then 1 GB of them and will probably evict some of them as soon as something else needs more RAM than is free.18:14
tapanikjep18:15
tapanik(yes)18:15
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jumpboy82323hi guys18:21
zambalogrotate doesn't rotate the syslog properly18:21
zambainstead i have a logfile with a dateext that's still being written to18:21
zambaand that's huge18:21
jumpboy82323im not able to install ubuntu in this pc: it is jumper ezbook 3 pro, now i m in live mode18:22
jumpboy82323lubuntu 17.10 version(live mode)18:22
Sven_vBzamba, try restarting the rsyslog service18:23
akik!details | jumpboy8232318:23
ubottujumpboy82323: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.18:23
jumpboy82323akik: it`s chinese notebook, 6 gb ram 2.10 cpu18:23
jumpboy82323jumper ezbook 3 pro18:24
akikjumpboy82323: i meant that "not able to install" doesn't really tell anything to anybody18:24
DiecastMessiahwhat errors if any or steps that you took18:24
jumpboy82323akik i m in live mode, when i do setup and i install i, at rebbot, doesnt appear the grub but again winzoz 1018:25
akikjumpboy82323: i had that same with a acer laptop. had to go into the uefi screens and add grubx64.efi to the allowed boot files18:25
jumpboy82323can u tell me the process to do this? thanks18:26
jumpboy82323now i`m in live mode18:27
Hulioin ubuntu is there a way to make it like the old menu on the top?18:28
Hulioi hate the left side menu18:28
Huliovery annoying18:28
yeatsHulio: which release?18:28
Huliothe latest18:28
Hulio1718:28
EriC^^Hulio: try ubuntu mate18:28
Huliooh where can i get that?18:28
Huliolet me see18:28
jumpboy82323it`s already installed but it doesn t work akik18:29
EriC^^jumpboy82323: try to set the administrator password in the bios, then look for a 'trust' option18:29
yeatsHulio: yeah, regular desktop ubuntu has moved to GNOME - MATE, cinnamon, lxde (lubuntu), kde (kubuntu) or xfce (xubuntu) might be worth experimenting with18:29
Huliowhy the ubuntu mate look so green18:30
oerhekshttps://techtablets.com/forum/topic/how-to-install-antergos-linux-on-the-ezbook-3-pro-v4/page/3/#post-76031 short manual to install linux on the EZ book 318:30
yeatsHulio: colors are customizable18:30
Huliooh18:30
oerhekslots of issues with the trackpad, i read18:30
DiecastMessiahyeah mate is like the older gnome 218:31
DiecastMessiahwith the bars at the top and buttom18:31
ZythyrNeed help with systemd configuration to start a service. I have an encrypted /home parittion. I do NOT use a keyfile to automatically unlock the partition. When I boot into the system, I manually login in remotely using SSH and use the command "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 data" and I get prompted for a password to unlock the partition. Once the partition is unlocked, the /home is18:33
Zythyrautomatically mounted. The issue I am having no is that I have a service that needs to start automatically. The .sh to start the service is located in /home/myusername/myservice.sh. In the service configuration I put ConditionPathExists=/home/myusername Requires=home.mount Aftab=home.mount. However, my service is fails to start after I unlock the partition. It sa ys failed because of depedenceny.18:33
ZythyrMy manually get the service to start by doing "sudo systemctl start myservice", I get prompted for the encrypted disk partition's passphrase. Why does it ask for the passphrase if the partition is already unlocked?18:33
EriC^^Zythyr: is Aftab a typo or something?18:39
ZythyrEriC^^ Sorry I ment to type "After=home.mount". Yes thats a typo in this post, but NOT in my actual service file18:40
anonnyhello!18:42
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james_test18:44
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hay207Hi, i have a user access problem with a game i installed, i can run the game via root only.18:45
Guest11703Laptop Test...18:45
Guest11703Done!!!18:45
Guest11703Exiting...18:45
EriC^^hay207: how did you install the game?18:46
hay207via terminal using a script18:47
EriC^^what happens when you try to run it as your user?18:47
hay207nothing18:47
EriC^^what file are you trying to run?18:48
EriC^^can you pastebin it?18:48
Guest72128I had a problem with Ubuntu as a Virtual machine.  Do you know how to fix it?  Thank you!!18:48
swebis netplan safe for changing invalid network over ssh ?18:48
hay207it's a game18:48
swebusing --debug on generation ?18:48
EriC^^hay207: what's the name of the file?18:49
hay207nwn18:49
hay207for neverwinternights game18:49
EriC^^hay207: what does 'file nwn' give you?18:49
hay207nwn: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable18:50
EriC^^hay207: how big is it? try 'ls -lh nwn'18:51
adminewbnot a proper support question, but I'll ask here unless someone directs me elsewhere: what happened to scheduled point release 16.04.4? no mention in forums; have all dev resources been monopolized by 18.04?18:51
hay207-rwxr-xr-x 1 hay207 hay207 310 Jul  7  2016 nwn18:51
hay207hay207 is the user18:52
EriC^^hay207: ok, try 'cat nwn | nc termbin.com 9999'18:52
ducasseadminewb: expected 1st of march aiui18:53
hay207http://termbin.com/axdz18:53
adminewbthanks ducasse18:53
jdonaldHi, I'm hoping to find someone here who can update the status of this ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1711337 (Firefox 57~59 on armhf).18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1711337 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox crashes at start on armv7L after 55.0.1 update" [Undecided,Fix released]18:54
EriC^^hay207: maybe it just needs root by default or something?18:55
jdonaldNot necessarily looking for swift action on fixing the bug, but would like to have the ticket status changed back to confirmed, not "fix released".18:55
EriC^^hay207: try 'fakeroot' then run the program18:56
hay207yes it uses fakeroot as a dependency18:56
hay207how to use fakeroot?18:56
EriC^^just run 'fakeroot'18:57
zambaSven_vB: yes, that solves it, but i can't do this every day18:58
zambaSven_vB: logrotate.d/rsyslog has the following entry:18:58
zamba        postrotate18:58
zamba                reload rsyslog >/dev/null 2>&1 || true18:58
zamba        endscript18:58
hay207got an error18:59
hay207ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.18:59
Sven_vBzamba, you could redirect the output to a log file instead of /dev/null, maybe it will give more hints.19:00
EriC^^hay207: anything in the documentation about how to start it?19:03
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jdonaldhay207: are you attempting to use a 32-bit executable with a 64-bit fakeroot?19:03
hay207i guess so jdonald19:04
hay207guide i followed 's here https://www.gog.com/forum/neverwinter_nights_series/guidelinux_install_neverwinter_nights_on_any_linux_distribution19:04
hay207leading to https://wiki.dotslashplay.it/en/games/neverwinter-nights19:04
hay207the game builds a i386 bin only with the script19:05
hay207the script builds a i386 bin * only19:06
hay207i got game from gog site19:07
Euph0riaHi all.  Is there a way to convert my filesystem (root, home, etc) to a filesystem that supports compression, without having to do an entire re-install?19:10
max3does anyone know how to get two finger gestures working with libinput?19:11
max3e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll19:11
EriC^^hay207: did you use the dpkg -i command during installation?19:12
hay207i ran it from kde-deb19:13
hay207didnot use terminal19:13
EriC^^hay207: what does 'which nwn' give?19:14
hay207nothing19:16
hay207how i exit fakeroot?19:16
EriC^^type exit19:16
Euph0riaegg-sit.19:17
hay207still nothing after exiting fakeroot19:18
EriC^^hay207: where are you running nwn from?19:18
hay207from /usr/local/share/games19:18
max3e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll19:20
max3whoops19:21
max3does anyone know how to get two finger gestures working with libinput? e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll19:21
hay207I tried giving permissions to my user, but still won't run except as root19:22
EriC^^hay207: maybe install a 32bit fakeroot version in /usr/local19:22
Alexander-47uhi guys19:24
Alexander-47uI boot into black screen after grub19:24
Alexander-47ubut I can hear sounds, like volume up down, escape, etc19:24
Alexander-47uI dual boot with windows, maybe it has something to do with that, I dont know19:24
Alexander-47uanyone know what it might possibly be?19:24
hay207apt-get install fakeroot:i386 ?19:25
Alexander-47uim into emergency mode now.19:25
Alexander-47uusing ubuntu mate 16.0419:25
EriC^^hay207: nevermind, seems like a bad idea19:26
hay207i think it's just a permissions problem.19:27
hay207but i'm doing something wrong19:27
EriC^^hay207: try 'fakeroot i386 bash'19:27
EriC^^then run the program19:27
hay207same error19:29
hay207then nothing, i force command to stop19:29
Alexander-47uanyone?19:30
LoebIs there a simple way to update from 15.04 to 16.04 LTS? The update release tool guy does not seem happy with me.19:31
oerheksLoeb, not sure there is a direct upgrade, see the !eolupgrade factoid19:32
oerheks!eolupgrade19:32
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:32
Bashing-omAlexander-47u: Graphic's driver ? What results; reboot and at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F2. Can you log into the system here ?19:32
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Alexander-47uBashing-om, no, it does not respond to CTRL+ALT+F2 or other F keys19:33
Alexander-47uive reinstalled xorg-server19:33
Alexander-47ubut that did not help19:33
Alexander-47uim in emergency mode now with terrible resolution19:34
hay207when i run game from /home/user/.local/share/games , it ran only from root19:34
Alexander-47uany tips?19:35
Bashing-omAlexander-47u: Sorry. as you can not activate a console interface, above my skill set .19:37
Alexander-47uBashing-om, thanks anyway19:37
Alexander-47uim going to try to reboot with propietary drivers, brb19:37
hay207I guess i will go now19:39
Loeboerheks, yeah do-release-upgrade says vivid isn't supported19:39
hay207Thanks for trying to help eric19:39
LoebI don't want to do a fresh install mainly because I've got a single ancient package around that I'd like to keep. I coooooould grab the .deb from this install and try it on 16.04?19:41
oerheksLoeb, sure you could try, without proper info we cannot tell it will work19:42
Loeboerheks, I don't think I have any other options to get off of 15.0419:46
Loebother than writing an ISO and doing a new install19:47
oerheksLoeb, indeed, long time since that 15.04 went EOL19:49
Alexander-47ustill no luck19:54
_CM_wow still using 15.04?20:00
zumba_addictGood afternoon. I created /etc/init.d/nginx and it only starts once I passed the login screen20:16
zumba_addictwait, I think I'm wrong. My ip changed. REbooting again20:17
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zumba_addictYup, I was wrong :) it's working now20:19
astralemphttps://askubuntu.com/a/410028 <-- I'm trying to configure iptables to filter by mac address, but the instructions here don't seem to be working20:21
astralempi.e., I added a rule for dropping connections to a specific port from my mac address, but I can still access the port20:22
astralempand i verified that i was using the correct mac address by looking at the ufw logs, since they were already blocking me from other ports based on ip address20:22
TJ-astralemp: for ethernet MAC level filtering you need to use ebtables, not iptables20:23
astralempokay, I should have clarified. I want to filter requests from the internet by mac address.20:25
astralempnot from the LAN20:25
TJ-astralemp: MAC's only travel between 2 connected link layer points,20:27
astralempwhich points?20:30
astralempand does that mean what I'm trying to do is impossible?20:30
TJ-astralemp: The MAC addresses (source,destination) of a packet change at each 'hop', so what a home gateway sees is source==ISP router, destination==the home gateway. Then your PC sees source==the home gateway, destination==the PC20:32
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ghormoonhi, I'm tryin to make amd gpu work (switch from intel) and can't find /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch, do I need to install something specific?20:35
astralempTJ-: I noticed that the source mac address from the server's point of view was different than the physical address of my client comp's wifi-fi adapter20:38
astralempis that what you're referring to?20:39
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TJ-astralemp: right; on the link layer (Ethernet) the MAC's only refer to 'this device' and 'the next' (the other end of the cable, or the wifi AP)20:45
debouncerWhenever I install nvidia drivers (for gtx980 graphic card), I am stuck at the login screen. Can someone help me about this?20:46
astralempTJ-: okay. so what would be the correct way to set this up?20:47
oerheksdebouncer, on what ubuntu version, 17.10 ?20:47
debouncerIf I remove the nvidia drivers, I can log in the system but fans of graphic card runs like crazy20:48
debouncerUbuntu version is 17.1020:48
oerheks17.10/wayland session does not support nvidia drivers for now, change to xorg20:48
juergen_Hi, I give away per snail mail a cd booklet of the band Children Of The Korn    for free, Album title: godlike, if interested msg me20:48
oerheks!spam | juergen_20:48
ubottujuergen_: Please don't spam20:48
debouncerIs there any way to downgrade then?20:49
oerheksdebouncer, nope, reinstall 16.04 is the only way20:49
debouncerWill there be any update with 17.04?20:50
debouncerSorry, with 18.0420:50
oerheksno news about wayland+nvidia yet :-(20:50
oerheksyou *could* try the xorg session from login20:51
debouncernvidia drivers are always pain in the ass20:52
oerheks.. no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks20:52
DiecastMessiahis it a primus setup ? intel video chip and a nvidia chip or card?20:53
debouncerokay, thanks20:53
DiecastMessiahif so you'll need to get bumblebee20:56
Huliohi, is there away to allow sftp ?21:00
Hulioi remember something with ssh21:00
user___Hi, I would like to know if ubuntu 16.04.4 will have wayland in the hardware enablement stack21:09
max3is there a way to map horizontal scroll to keyboard shortcuts?21:12
Outygood evening =)21:13
Outymax3: this might be your answer: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/151173/keyboard-shortcut-for-horizontal-scrolling21:15
max3Outy, this is the other way around21:15
max3hmm i guess mouseclick using xbinkey21:15
pyexthere is program I forgot, i need to remember it, its setup to command parameter for programs, please suggestion me.21:17
Outypyex: can you describe more? cannot imagine what you're talking about21:20
charlie_sandopyex: xargs ?21:20
pyexits program list to all programs with command line exec setup21:21
pyexits gui21:21
pyexright click and seytup parameter like: firejail firefox %U21:21
libbenhow do I create a veth in netplan?21:22
sairentokitsuneherro21:24
Outypyex: synaptics package manager?21:24
sairentokitsuneanybody have a link to the chat?21:26
pyexSimilarly synaptics, but more basic21:26
backnforthHi, will someone help me get steam working? I'm using Ubuntu 17.10 with the Nvdia propriety driver and steam is giving me the following message when running it: http://dpaste.com/1YM8NM421:26
sairentokitsunehello?21:27
TJ-libben: See "man netplan" and the "Virtual devices" paragraph; basically, like bond devices21:27
libbenyeah, I figured so. Just weird that they didnt incorporate an example for veth in man21:28
libbenwhen they covered most other21:28
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Outypyex: gnome-software21:29
TJ-libben: yeah, I think it's a rolling target with heavy development, and possibly the docs lag behind21:29
libbenI couldent find anything in the logs though on github21:30
libbenwhen I searched veth virtualization and so on21:30
libbenshould be mentioned there one would assume21:30
pyexOuty: No, its basic, only for setyp to exec command line for programs21:30
Outybacknforth: try again to start steam. when error message is visible: start a terminal and type journalctl -xe  look for any steam error messages ant past&copy here21:31
Outypyex: I'm giving up sorry ^^21:31
backnforthOuty, http://dpaste.com/0KC711421:32
TJ-libben: strange yes, it looks like the only mention of veth is in ./tests/integration.py21:32
libbenyeah21:34
libbenthats my thought and hence I asked if anyone had a working veth conf21:34
libbenone would assume it should work, just gonna try later to set it up like bonds21:34
Outybacknforth: hmm nothing there about steam. mind if you just delete the .steam folder in your home directory21:34
TJ-libben: I do wonder if the mention in the man-page is aspirational, I don't see how veth would work at all, compared to the amount of code for handling bridges21:35
TJ-libben: the integration tests veth is for setting up a test host VM, not for testing a YAML fragment21:35
libbenbummer21:36
astralempTJ-: so, is ebtables still the right tool for WAN mac address filtering?21:37
backnforthOuty, I tried deleting it then running steam again and I got it (I removed the parts about how much has been downloaded). Notice it says: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"21:37
TJ-libben: looking at the LP bug list, there's a whole host of 'wishlist' items not implemented. I don't see veth in the list or via a search, but I'm suspecting it isn't actually implemented21:38
libbenso netplan is basicly a wrapper on backends likte systemd-network and network-manager and so on?21:39
TJ-astralemp: No tool will work if you're not dealing with the MAC addresses of the directly connected devices. In other words it won't work for A > B > C > D if you want to block A at C or D21:39
libbenSo what would be the best way to go from here?21:39
libbendisable netplan somehow, and just use interfaces?21:39
TJ-libben: yes, at boot-time it generates the correct systemd-networkd or network-manager config via it's 'renderers'21:39
Outybacknforth: okay maybe i got ur answer can you please test in a terminal if glxgears is running21:40
pyexhello, how run program with command paramter shortcut?21:40
TJ-libben: I'd use system-networkd, it's very simple. add a .network file in /etc/systemd/network/21:40
backnforthOuty, not installed21:40
Outybacknforth: install it please and test21:40
backnforthOuty, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".21:41
backnforthError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual21:41
oerhekspyex, from terminal, or write a launcher for it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles21:41
Outybacknforth: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils21:41
backnforthI did21:41
backnforthI had to get that the command21:41
libbenSo can I handle that veth interface in netplan after ive done that in systemd/network?21:41
Outybacknforth: ah okay is it a laptop with nvidia optimus ???21:42
backnforthOuty, desktop with nvidia 107021:42
pyexoerheks: yesterday i get this link and i forgot, thank you for to remember me21:42
Outybacknforth: driver is not working correctly21:42
backnforthI installed the propriety ones21:43
backnforthmaybe I should go with nouveau21:43
TJ-libben: If systemd-networkd veth is configured first. I'm not sure how netplan names the generated config files - you'd want yours to be something like 00-veth.network I guess21:43
Outybacknforth: could you pls revert to ubuntu drivers and test steam?21:43
astralempTJ-: but in theory, couldn't I check UFW-BLOCK logs all of the clients I want to whitelist for their mac addresses, and just use those? so, block at B rather than A?21:44
backnforthOuty, sure21:44
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TJ-astralemp: I thought you were attempting to block an Internet host from accessing the local LAN ? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're actually trying to do21:46
backnforthOuty, works now21:48
oerheksi want wobbly windows working on 17/10 wayland-session21:49
oerhekswithout wobbly windows, wayland is doomed21:49
Outybacknforth: okay fine... now we know its the driver.. you could go with a little bit older drivers from the nvidia download page and test a few of them21:49
Outybacknforth: here's somthing interesting: Open the nvidia settings box at the right bottom corner. Click on "Nvidia settings configuration". Now check the box "Include X display names in the config file". Close session and login again or restart.21:52
backnforthOuty, Last time I tried to manually install drivers I got errors. I need to use the `Software & Updates` app21:52
Outybacknforth: see my last answer =)21:52
max3i figured out how to map horizontal scroll to alt+left and alt+right but i get too many key presses? anyone know how to fix that? like turn down the horizontal acceleration or something? i can't find it in synclient21:53
backnforthOuty, I don't see an nvidia settings box21:53
Outybacknforth: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings   (only works with nvidia drivers. reinstall =) )21:55
backnforthOuty, ok21:55
backnforthOuty, do I need to do a restart?21:58
Outybacknforth: Open the nvidia settings box at the right bottom corner. Click on       │ adellam21:59
Outy                    │                          | "Nvidia settings configuration". Now check the box "Include X display names in the config file". Close session   │ admin[m]221:59
Outy                    │                          | and login again or restart.21:59
backnforthI don't see that box21:59
Outybacknforth: sorry - yes or logoff logon21:59
backnforthok21:59
backnforthOuty, I restarted and I still don't see anyting for nvida22:01
Outybacknforth: call settings program with: sudo nvidia-settings22:01
backnforthOuty, Do I need to save the configurations?22:03
backnforthor can just quit after clicking the checkbox22:03
Outybacknforth: should be working - search for "include x display names in config file" and check it  yes syve config22:03
backnforthOuty, what config file?22:04
Outybacknforth: saving only works if nvidia-setting is started with sudo22:04
backnforthoh sorry22:05
backnforthmisunderstood what you said22:05
backnforthOuty, I checked it22:05
backnforthnow what again, sorry?22:05
Outybacknforth: does it give you option to select a file - weird  it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:05
backnforthOuty, nothing pop ups after I click the checkbox22:06
Outybacknforth: log off log on steam should worl now22:06
backnforthok22:06
astralempTJ-: I have a VPS, and I want to lock down access to certain ports based on mac address22:06
astralempTJ-: and I want to use mac address rather than ip address because of dynamic ips22:07
backnforthOuty, doesn't work22:07
backnforthbut I didn't save the configurations22:07
astralempTJ-: and by access I mean, ip address + port in browser22:07
Outybacknforth: could you test glxgears again22:07
backnforthOuty, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".22:08
backnforthError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual22:08
Outybacknforth: you have to save it - otherwise it will not work22:08
backnforthOuty, where do I save it to?22:08
Outybacknforth: save config22:08
Outybacknforth: /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:08
oerheksastralemp, never done that myself, maybe this page is any help https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/iptables-mac-address-filtering.html /// https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232086022:09
Outybacknforth: it should do this automatically ... don't know why it give you an opinion22:09
backnforthOuty: my desktop install is messed now22:11
backnforthwhen I logged out, it gave me a message about cleaning my hard drive , then after rebooting I'm stuck at a screen that says ubuntu22:12
Outybacknforth: test glx gears. and steam. messed? no worry nvidia settings normally did a backup of your old xorg.conf22:13
Outybacknforth: oh okay. there should me an xorg.conf (messed) and an old one xorg.bak or something like that22:13
Outyyou could sudo cp xorg.old xorg.conf22:14
backnforthI can't find a backup22:14
backnfortham I going to have to reinstall lubuntu ?22:15
Outybacknforth: could you then pls delete  ~/.config/monitors.xml22:16
Outybacknforth: if it is there22:16
backnforthcan't find it22:16
backnforthI did doing a "find" too22:17
Outy@ALL can anybody help here to restore a broken xorg.conf?22:17
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Outybacknforth: found it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg22:19
backnforthit says xserver-org is not installed22:20
backnforthdoesn't Ubuntu 17.10 use Wayland ?22:20
Outybacknforth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm22:21
oerheksif you run the wayland session, nvidia is not working22:21
oerheks*driver22:21
* oerheks told that before22:22
backnforthNvidia doesn't work with Wayland?22:22
backnforthPity, it says lxdm is not installed22:22
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backnforthsorry, autocorrect22:22
backnforthouty**22:23
Outybacknforth: wtf ??? whats wrong with lubuntu... nothing works here?22:24
Outybacknforth: could you: apt list nvidia-*22:26
backnforthgives me a long list, what am I looking for?22:26
Outybacknforth: could you: apt list nvidia-* | grep installed22:26
oerheksdriver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'22:27
backnforthnvidia: 384, opencl-icd-384, prime, and settings installed22:28
Outybacknforth: you can try sudo nvidia-uninstall22:28
backnforthit's not a command on my system22:28
Outybacknforth: then sudo apt-get purge nvidia: 384  or whatever the right package name is22:29
Outybacknforth: if successful delete xorg.conf with: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:30
backnforthdone22:31
Outybacknforth: restart see if everything is working again22:31
backnforthworks again22:32
Outybacknforth: very good... so nvidia drivers not working on wayland22:33
Outybacknforth: sorry for the mess22:33
backnforthmaybe I should send my card back22:33
backnforthI will test it on games first22:33
Outybacknforth: Xubuntu is waaaayyy better, you might want to try it22:33
backnforthI thought lxde was more lightweight22:33
Outybacknforth: lubuntu is a little bit bad22:33
Outybacknforth: xfce is lightweight too but way more compatible22:34
backnforthdoes it use x11?22:34
konimexwell everything use x11 atm..22:34
backnforthohhh ok22:35
DiecastMessiahyeah i think xfce inly uses like less than 300mb22:35
backnforthHmm m22:35
DiecastMessiahram22:35
Outybacknforth: yes gnome x1122:35
pyexI searching to my firefox exec location.22:35
Outybacknforth: xfce is very very configureable you WILL like it!22:36
backnforthbut I doesn't have Ubuntu 17.10?22:36
backnforthit**22:36
backnforthfound it.22:37
Outybacknforth: little tip. after installation do sudo apt-get install xfwm4-themes xfce4-goodies22:37
Outybacknforth: then do a little testing with the very well customizeable taskbars / panels22:38
Outybacknforth: see my desktop http://i.imgur.com/zNvyz3Y.png22:39
cnnxi'm at my parents house visiting right now, i want to reboot my dual boot ubuntu/win10 rig from remote to boot into win10 instead of the default ubuntu boot.. can i safely modify the grub config file to do this or do I risk of breaking it and losing mining time?22:39
akikcnnx: if you didn't test it earlier, it's risky22:40
cnnxyeah thought so22:41
backnforthnice outy, looks awesome22:41
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ducassecnnx: see the grub-reboot man page22:42
akikcnnx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus22:42
Tron42Hi! Can I ask here about an issue I have with installation of Ubuntu?22:42
tonytTron42 yes22:43
Outybacknforth: yeah ... have a look into the menu and look for appearance / window manager / windows manager tweaks <-- activate desktop composition here22:43
Outybacknforth: for nice transparency effects and more22:43
Tron42Thanks. Does Ubuntu 17.10 has support for installation on pc with 32 bit UEFI?22:44
Outybacknforth: you only have to install xfce now =)22:44
backnforthah man, my bios has a bad habit of turning on secure boot on its own22:45
Outybacknforth: xubuntu (xfce)22:45
Outybacknforth: sometimes there is an additional setting in bios. called csm (activate it) and OS selection: windows 8 / 10 set this to other os22:47
Outybacknforth: should work22:48
akikcnnx: you can see the configured "main view" grub entries with: grep "^menuentry" /boot/grub/grub.cfg22:49
pyexWhy "Searching apps and /bin/apps" Different?22:49
pyexWhy /usr/bin/X11/X11... eternal?22:49
akikcnnx: that will skip any submenus that have any previous kernels22:50
pyexI need to answers.22:50
backnforthpity, I'm able to turn it off easily. but I don't know why it comes back on sometimes.22:50
Tron42Sorry for disconnection.22:50
Outybacknforth: found the other options i mentioned22:50
Outybacknforth: ?22:50
Tron42Does ubuntu 17.10 supports 32 bit UEFI? Maybe someone answered but i missed it22:51
backnforthoh ok, I'll look into that22:51
akikcnnx: of course i was wrong, you can't skip the submenus22:52
akikcnnx: egrep "(menuentry|submenu)" /boot/grub/grub.cfg22:53
OutyTron42: maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:53
oerheksTron42, 32 bit uefi is a hack :-( see the uefi factoid22:53
OutyTron42: I'm not sure either22:53
Tron42thanks looking that22:54
AmericanBlendTron42, not sure but you probably need 64 bit for uefi22:54
OutyTron42: here could be an answer: https://medium.com/@realzedgoat/a-sorta-beginners-guide-to-installing-ubuntu-linux-on-32-bit-uefi-machines-d39b1d1961ec22:55
oerheksask your vendor for a 64 bit uefi update22:56
Tron42AmericanBlend: I am trying to install 64 bit Ubuntu on 64 bit detachable laptop that has a 32 bit uefi22:58
AmericanBlendno bios update?22:59
AmericanBlendmaybe it's locked that way22:59
AmericanBlendhow much ram it has?23:00
Tron422 GB23:00
AmericanBlendthen go with 32 bit23:00
Tron42it's around 2013 I think23:00
AmericanBlendyou don't need 64 bit ubuntu on a 2gnb laptop23:00
AmericanBlenda process can address only 2gb on 32 bit anyway23:01
Tron42But UEFI doesn't require a 64 bit system?23:01
AmericanBlendthat's exacly how much ram you have23:01
OutyTron42: yeah 32bit will save your precios ram. executeables are less demanding when compiled for 32bit systems23:01
AmericanBlendtry it out23:01
AmericanBlendif a process can max out on 2 gigs it's what the laptop has max anyway23:02
akikAmericanBlend: processes can allocate 3 gigs on 32-bit23:02
AmericanBlendfrom what i know 2 gigs but i can be wrong23:02
AmericanBlendstill nont an issue23:03
backnforthouty, what did you want me to install again for the cool theme stuff23:04
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backnforthand whatever else for cool stuff23:04
AmericanBlend"the limitations are 3GB per process on x86-Linux with pae-kernel"23:07
AmericanBlendyeah you're right, 3gb23:07
AmericanBlendthe source of this is not reliable tho23:07
Outybacknforth: little tip. after installation do sudo apt-get install xfwm4-themes xfce4-goodies23:08
Outybacknforth: yeah ... after install have a look into the menu and look for appearance / window manager / windows manager tweaks <-- activate desktop composition here23:09
backnforthouty,ok thanks. I'm using my phone for irc and I lost the previous messages23:09
BOb___hi23:11
BOb___does anyone know how to use centos23:11
BOb___im getting errors in my commands23:11
akikBOb___: yes, #centos23:11
oerheksBOb___, wrong channel, try #centos ?23:11
oerhekselse ##linux23:12
Outybacknforth: window manager tweaks -> compositor is for having the options for transparency and desktop effects later  you should turn it on =)23:12
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backnforthouty,it looks to be on by default23:14
BOb___nobody is answering in centos23:15
BOb___:/23:15
jpsmorning23:15
oerheksBOb___, just be pationt, or try ##linux23:16
AmericanBlendyou get what you payed for23:16
oerheksc/patient23:16
jpshi23:16
AmericanBlendif you had rhel you would get support rihgt away23:16
BOb___i thought they were the same23:16
AmericanBlendno, cent os is a free rhel build23:17
AmericanBlendrhel isn't free but you get support23:17
astralempanyone know how device tied auth works?23:18
Budgiiwhat in the world is 'host key23:18
Budgiivirtual box23:18
akikBOb___: i'm in #centos and you didn't ask anything23:18
Budgiii thought it was alt..23:18
BOb___ffs23:18
BOb___i cant register23:19
BOb___lel23:19
akikso don't lie23:19
BOb___i thought i did23:19
BOb___i wasnt registered23:19
BOb___didnt realize23:19
akikthat happens23:19
oerheksget help with registering in #freenode, not here23:19
AmericanBlendmaybe he's just unaware23:19
BOb___but when i do register23:20
BOb___it says already registered23:20
Outyre23:20
tsimonq2Hi there, I'm having an issue with libvirt on an Ubuntu host. It won't properly detect networking on the guest (neither DNS nor a direct ping to 8.8.8.8 work). I've tried Googling around to no avail. Any suggestions?23:20
pp00010101Hi, I'm trying to change theme for boot splash screen and my changes are applied only to shutdown splash, not boot splash. Are these warnings during update initramfs might be an issue? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TV9vYh8TdZ/23:22
pp00010101Also I run grub if that makes a difference23:22
Outypp00010101: is this a help ? https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#How_do_I_forward_incoming_connections_to_a_guest_that_is_connected_via_a_NATed_virtual_network.3F_.3D23:22
Outypp00010101: sorry wrong23:22
Outytsimonq2: https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#How_do_I_forward_incoming_connections_to_a_guest_that_is_connected_via_a_NATed_virtual_network.3F_.3D23:22
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Outypp00010101: did you put a anypicture.png into /boot/grub/ ???23:24
oerhekstsimonq2, maybe this page is any help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#Network_Bridge_Does_Not_Appear_in_Virt-Manager23:24
BOb___ok i registered23:24
tsimonq2Outy: Why would I do that? I don't need it.23:24
BOb___on another chat23:24
tsimonq2oerheks: I'll look, thanks.23:24
BOb___but it says not identified to nick23:24
Aero5123hi23:25
Aero5123this is my alt23:25
Aero5123its registered23:25
oerheksBOb___, get help with registering/loging in in #freenode, not here23:25
Aero5123ok23:25
pp00010101Outy: I have not made any changes to grub yet, I dont want to change grub splash, but system boot splash23:25
BOb___what the hell23:26
tsimonq2oerheks: aaaHA! Bookmarked, thank you23:26
BOb___they autobanned me from centos23:26
BOb___i didnt even do anything23:26
oerhekstsimonq2, have fun!23:26
BOb___what the hell23:26
Outypp00010101: for boot splash edit /etc/default/grub  uncomment GRUB_GFXMODE=put your native monitor resolution here like 1920x1080   put a 1920x1080 picture.png into /boot/grub/ then sudo update-grub23:27
TobaBOb___: this has nothing to do with the #ubuntu channel try googling these questions23:27
Tobafreenode has good web pages about all of it23:27
oerheksBOb___,  please type /join #freenode23:28
Outypp00010101: ahh okay, read your answer too late23:28
backnforthouty, steam is working with the binaries on Xubuntu23:28
Outypp00010101: are you on ubuntu ?23:28
Outybacknforth: very good =) =) =)23:28
pp00010101Outy: xubuntu 16.0423:28
Outypp00010101: ahh okay give me a sec... i know where it is have to take a look23:30
pp00010101Outy: appreciate, I think i got my steps right, but I can't figure out why they are taking effect only partially (only for shutdown splash)23:33
Outypp00010101: its in lightdm gtk+ greeter settings -> apperance -> set an image you like -> uncheck "use user wallpaper if available"23:33
Outypp00010101: and under session & startup -> splash -> set to none23:35
afidegnumhello, is there any html/boostrap for linux a la dreameaver ?23:37
afidegnumspecially ubuntu23:37
Outypp00010101: that's how i configured it... there are other ways to set custom splah screens with animated loading bars or rotating whatever but these ways are complicated and i never tried23:37
pp00010101Outy: so there are three differnt thing we are talking about here 1. login screen backgroud 2. splash screen during login 3. splash screen durign BOOT which I intend to change http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/fixedbyvonnie-xubuntu-starting.png23:37
pp00010101but thanks for help anyway, I will keep digging :)23:38
Outyafidegnum: http://kompozer.net/23:38
pyexhow may i write tilde (~) shortcut from keyboard?23:38
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afidegnumOuty: composer do not have a kind of drag-and-drop builder, and it's not free23:39
oerhekshttps://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux23:41
bazhangaptana studio comes to mind as being closer to dreamweaver23:42
Outypp00010101: 3. splash boot = the grub part i was typing before 2. splash login = lightdm gtk+ greeter settings i was typing before23:42
Outypp00010101: you should try my suggestions23:43
BOb___um23:43
BOb___hello23:43
Outypp00010101: it works on my machine23:43
royal_screwup21so I have a few a few .jar packages interspersed across my file system. I want to redirect all of them to one location. What's the easiest way to accomplish this?23:43
Outyafidegnum: its free and open source23:44
Outyafidegnum: what do you mean ?23:44
pp00010101Outy: the grub part update only grub backround? Im talking about animated loading theme that is displayed during boot23:44
Outypp00010101: that was the part i was typing before. i haven't done it before. too complicated for me.23:45
Outypp00010101: sorry23:45
Outyafidegnum: did you visit http://kompozer.net/ ?23:45
afidegnumOuty: unfortunately, the last update is 2010,23:47
pp00010101Outy: this is actually pretty simple, but for some reason does not work form me. Theme is handled by plymouth program and its config should be written to initramfs after changes. This is done in the steps shown here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TV9vYh8TdZ/23:47
pp00010101but my changes are applied only for shutdown splash, probably initramfs is not correctly saved or is overwritten by some other program23:48
davidw93When setting up a git repo, what owner/group/permissions do most people put on the /srv/git directory? Just trying to stay consistent with other devs23:49
Outyafidegnum: you're right but according to suggestions of some people it is close to dreamweaver23:49
afidegnumis there no recent one?23:49
Outypp00010101: ah ok i see - and that is exactly the part im afraid of messing with ;)23:51
bazhangafidegnum, what features from dreamweaver did you want23:51
antjosehello23:52
afidegnumquick edit of pages, forms specially with bootstrap23:52
strivedavidw93: Whatever permissions you want your directory to have; only the files within the git directory will be pushed.23:53
afidegnumi don't want to be switching to windows anytime i want to design some html stuff23:54
davidw93right, I just was curious if there was a "best practice" so to speak from both a security / practicality issue. Haven't been able to find much on this online23:54
oerheks!ide23:54
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator23:54
strivedavidw93: Are you familiar with using git?23:54
davidw93Yes, I'm talking more from a sysadmin perspective I suppose23:55
strivedavidw93: Ah, ok.23:55
striveYou could set the permissions to allow only owner and group.23:55
Outyafidegnum: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/google-web-designer-available-for-linux.html23:57

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