[00:00] <rollingubuntu> macc: I have not gksudo, apt-get install gksu only?
[00:00] <oerheks> nautilus-admin plugin gives that option, opening as root
[00:01] <nacc> rollingubuntu: *nacc* is my nick, not 'macc'. if you have gksu on ubuntu, i think you also have gksudo
[00:01] <nacc> rollingubuntu: what version of ubuntu?
[00:01] <nacc> oerheks: ah thanks
[00:01] <rollingubuntu> got you :) nacc
[00:01] <rollingubuntu> nacc: 17.10
[00:01] <oerheks> * but nautilus does not work in 17.10/wayland session :-( fix is being made
[00:02] <nacc> rollingubuntu: hrm, i'm fairly sure gksudo is in 17.10
[00:02] <nacc> oerheks: do you have it handy?
[00:02] <nacc> (i'm on 18.04 right now)
[00:02] <oerheks> err synaptic, forget the line...
[00:02] <rollingubuntu> nacc: it wasn't in mine, I just installed gksu
[00:02] <rangemonger> synaptic didnt work for me on wayland either
[00:03] <nacc> rollingubuntu: right gksu is the package name
[00:03] <nacc> rollingubuntu: but the applicatio you want is gksudo
[00:03] <rollingubuntu> nacc: plus, I get this with gksudonautilus --> Failed to run nautilus as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[00:04] <rangemonger> whats best practice for swap size? 50 percent of the size of the physical ram?
[00:05] <nacc> rangemonger: you don't technically need swap
[00:05] <nacc> rangemonger: it wholly depends on workload
[00:05] <oerheks> *best* is let ubuntu hande it, 17.10 uses swapfile
[00:05] <rangemonger> with no swapfile or partition, wont things brickwall?
[00:05] <nacc> if your workload uses up all of memory
[00:05] <nacc> rangemonger: again, i said it's workload dependent
[00:05] <DiecastMessiah> rangemonger: yeah if you have lots of ram .. but if you low ram the same size i would think
[00:05] <oerheks> seems like you know the answer yourself already, rangemonger
[00:05] <rangemonger> oerheks: but my use case is on btrfs, no swap file support
[00:06] <rangemonger> guess ill make it the same size
[00:06] <rangemonger> off course it wont brickwall if i dont use all the physical ram up but why risk that being a possibility
[00:07] <oerheks> !swap
[00:07] <oerheks> memory + some bytes, or 2x memory
[00:07] <rangemonger> i know what its for :P
[00:07] <DiecastMessiah> i don;t need it but i have 4gb ram so i have 4 gb swap
[00:07] <rangemonger> so far my micro servers been fine without it on 2gig
[00:08] <rangemonger> i just found out btrfs doesnt do swapfiles yet
[00:13] <rangemonger> man btrfs is awesome
[00:17] <josaco> hola
[00:18] <DiecastMessiah> hails
[00:31] <libben> I did a clean install of ubuntu server. Im getting static ip from dhcp on my router. But when I check /etc/networking/interfaces there is nothing there but standard "lo" entry
[00:31] <libben> where is the information stored for my nic to be dhcp
[00:31] <libben> information it gather during the installation
[00:32] <libben> I thought it would be in interfaces
[00:34] <oerheks> libben, did you manually set that static ip during install?? then it would show up there
[00:34] <oerheks> else your router reserves that ip based on your mac, i guess
[00:35] <libben> no
[00:35] <libben> my router has it locked to static in dhcp.
[00:35] <libben> but ubuntu server should have entry for that nic in interfaces
[00:36] <libben> being something like iface inet enp1s0 dhcp
[00:36] <libben> there is nothing like that in my interfaces
[00:36] <oerheks> on 17.10 it could be stored in /etc/netplan/*.yaml
[00:36] <rangemonger> if i just made a new swap partition, how do i get it to activate swapon on every boot?
[00:36] <libben> fstab rangemonger
[00:36] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan
[00:37] <rangemonger> thanks
[00:37] <libben> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-04 rangemonger
[00:37] <libben> sorry
[00:37] <libben> that was swapfile
[00:37] <libben> not partition
[00:38] <libben> https://askubuntu.com/questions/33697/how-do-i-add-a-swap-partition-after-system-installation
[00:38] <libben> more simple instructions there
[00:39] <oerheks> !swaphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_or_modify_a_swap_partition.3F
[00:39] <rangemonger> thanks
[00:40] <libben> hmm, oerheks why did they start with netplan =)
[00:40] <libben> interfaces is simple
[00:40] <libben> =)
[00:41] <libben> sick
[00:41] <rangemonger> lets see if gnome disks does it right
[00:41] <oerheks> netplan is great for deploying a large number of machines
[00:42] <rangemonger> baller, it does indeed
[00:42] <oerheks> but if your router serves you, be happy
[00:42] <libben> well, it does what I want.
[00:42] <libben> so it works i guess
[00:43] <libben> just weird that ubuntu server installation puts it into netplan
[00:44] <libben> I installed 18.04 current build. is there any good meta package to have? Feels like im missing some things in systemd and overall.
[00:44] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Network_configuration
[00:44] <libben> just feels like I have fewer things
[00:44] <oerheks> oh, 18.04 ... support in #ubuntu+1
[00:46] <rangemonger> tastes like beta
[00:47] <bazhang> rangemonger, what does
[00:47] <rangemonger> 18.04 :P
[00:47] <bazhang> rangemonger, discussion of that in #ubuntu+1 NOT here
[00:47] <oerheks> until release, it is
[00:48] <bazhang> lets stick to topical support here please rangemonger
[00:48] <rangemonger> sorry
[00:49] <bazhang> for chatter rangemonger please go to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere
[00:49] <rangemonger> noted
[01:17] <Guest60791> доброй ночи всем
[01:18] <Guest60791> кто может помочь пошагово соединить 2 компа в одну сеть ?
[01:26] <DiecastMessiah> Guest60791 try #ubuntu-ru unless you can also speak english
[01:32] <pyex> hello, i cant find to eth0, i need to suggestion
[01:34] <pyex> eth0 is missing
[01:34] <DiecastMessiah> pyex i think you may want to read up on ifconfig but not sure i am new
[01:36] <DiecastMessiah> if you like more help it best to give more info when asking questions like what verison of ubuntu you are using,, and more on what you did
[01:36] <pyex> ifconfig output Link encap:Ethernet -- Link encap:Local Loopback
[01:36] <pyex> Only ethernet and loopback
[01:37] <pyex> but my connection missing, its eth0
[01:38] <pyex> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[01:41] <skatetensor> pyex: what does ifconfig gives u ?
[01:42] <pyex> Ethernet and Local Loopback
[01:43] <Bashing-om> pyex: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ for the reason of the change from eth0 ,
[01:44] <DiecastMessiah> pyex: was this after an update orr?
[01:45] <AlphaXder> .j git
[01:45] <pyex> Connection good, but network traffic cant see
[01:45] <pyex> eth0 missing
[01:46] <pyex> 16.04.3 LTS my version
[02:02] <tcpdump> Hey guys, Im hoping you can help me. I keep right clicking on my start menu, clicking on "my computer" and hitting properties. When I do that I get a blue screen with white lettering, and then my computer reboots.
[02:04] <iresf> hey
[02:04] <iresf> can  clustered PCs speed up the hash rate ?
[02:06] <tcpdump> iresf: only if they're clustered with aluminum tape.
[02:09] <iresf> tcpdump :aluminum tape !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:12] <Nachos11> :)
[02:12] <Nachos11> The trolling is strong with this one.
[02:14] <stvn> tcpdump, you have to install ubuntu
[02:14] <nojm> hi currently scanning a 2.3TB drive with Gpartd from GUI with 'attempt data rescue' its been 3 days now-at what point should i call it quits disk speed is 7200 connected via sata 3.0 speculation is a good enough for me (i know about test disk and have a few backups but doubt their integrity hence the data rescue)
[02:15] <Nachos11> And here I am, debating on whether to use KVM or LXD as a hypervisor...
[02:15] <nojm> just want a ballpark guess 3-5days?
[02:16] <Nachos11> Anybody have thoughts about which one makes a better hypervisor?
[02:16] <nojm> happy to post any outputs in order to make a guess
[02:18] <nojm> somebody please :)
[02:18] <nojm> babbaganoosh love that dish
[02:19] <babaganoosh> hey, sometimes I am prosciutto
[02:19] <nojm> love that too
[02:20] <babaganoosh> i'm pretty cosmopolitan
[02:20] <babaganoosh> my usual nick is 'baba' but that is in use now
[02:20] <nojm> dad?
[02:21] <nojm> in arabic im told
[02:21] <babaganoosh> i don't know...it was just short for babaganoosh
[02:23] <nojm> can anyone speculate on how long a 2.3TB data rescue scan might take sata 3.0 from Gparted
[02:23] <nojm> its been 3days
[02:23] <nojm> 7200 disk speed
 if mine was food id make it moorhingha (burmese cobla chowder almost)
[02:25] <nojm> if you like pho you'll love it(pho vietnamese)
[02:26] <nojm> cmon people dont fail me now just need a guess
[02:27] <babaganoosh> well iam not *that* cosmopolitan
[02:27] <nojm> lmao
[02:28] <nojm> too sweet sour and salty (that like my moms)
[02:29] <babaganoosh> I see......
[02:29] <babaganoosh> My mom never made pho, to be sure
[02:29] <nojm> any of the 1503 ppl here a boss where HDD and data recovery is concernedd
[02:29] <nojm> need help pls
[02:31] <tomreyn> use gddrescue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:31] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what the gui you are using does
[02:31] <nojm> thanks <tomreyn>
[02:32] <tomreyn> run it from a terminal to get any idea about its progress
[02:34] <nojm> is it possible to run it from terminal while Gpartd scan is running?
[02:35] <nojm> and thank you
[02:36] <nojm> i was able to get smart info from terminal yesterday no issues this being a scan i assume no but im a novice
 can i run that while Gparted scan continues; or do i need to halt other scans?
[02:38] <tomreyn> nowhat's the actual issue then, what prompted you runnign this gparted gui data rescue option in the first place?
[02:38] <tomreyn> i would not run two such processes in parallel, no
[02:39] <nojm> thanks will ans ur question following
[02:40] <nojm> Had an external HDD with faulty usb 3.0 connector numerous power fails during use because of
[02:40] <nojm> put inside pc to bypass connection issues = no partition table
[02:40] <rizonz> hi guys, anyone willing to test a package on 17.10 ?
[02:41] <nojm> ran testdisk wrote to drive partions it found on quick scan
[02:41] <nojm> not the ones i needed
[02:41] <rizonz> I'm trying to start janus but I get an error: [utils.c:janus_pidfile_create:379] Error opening/creating PID file , does Janus have enough permissions?
[02:41] <rizonz> and I'm starting as root
[02:41] <nojm> backups of table (doubtful that they are taken at correct point in all my messing round
[02:42] <babaganoosh> sorry, dude
[02:42] <nojm> have reconnected the drive to external 3.0 and am running scan to try recover my data which reside in 3 different partitions
[02:43] <tomreyn> nojm: so there is actually no indication of a physical issue such as the hdd platters degrading?
[02:43] <nojm> no
[02:43] <nojm> no damage just partition overwriting
[02:44] <tomreyn> nojm: okay then you should just create a fulldisk image on a seperate storage. (or rather should have before you tried the other, potentially destructive, approaches)
[02:44] <nojm> and backups i took where probobly when it was connected inside the pc (sata) not when connected via usb 3.0)
[02:44] <stvn> [[]]
[02:44] <n1zjd> Anyone have a second to help with a rc.local problem?
[02:45] <nojm> when connected via usb in the external HDD case
[02:45] <n1zjd> Trying to run "darkice -c darkice.cfg" upon boot, but its not running
[02:47]  * tomreyn afk, need sleep
[02:47] <nojm> when connected to computer by usb a circuit board plugs into back of drive giving it ac power and usb 3.0 if thats removed the partition table doesnt show when reconnected its fine-
[02:48] <nojm> if i hadnt of rushd and written to disk a partition table found via testdisk i would of been okay to copy and paste or dd data to another drive
[02:49] <nojm> (testdisk scan was done when drive was connected via sata not usb
[02:49] <nojm> which is when p table is missing
[02:49] <nojm> stupid me i rushed
[02:50] <nojm> now i pay in patients lmao
[02:50] <nojm> patience
[02:51] <nojm> ill be back guys
[03:17] <kidn3ys> any chance anyone has run into hibernate issues with a surface pro 3?
[03:52] <dakshina> hi
[03:53] <oerheks> :-)
[03:53] <dakshina> :-)
[03:53] <SupreX> Hello! :)
[03:54] <dakshina> i'm new to ubuntu
[03:55] <oerheks> !yay
[03:55] <SupreX> I got some performance issues... Can somebody help me out? It's on Lubuntu. But that channel is dead and it might appear like the same on Ubuntu. The new installation performs laggy. IDK why, I been trying Google.
[03:55] <kenrin> What does "laggy" mean ?
[03:55] <SupreX> Like windows are moving slow
[03:56] <oerheks> SupreX, open a terminal: top # and see if there are processes that are 100%.. and see if there are zombies
[03:56] <kenrin> Check top or htop and see what it is doing
[03:56] <Boyette> lol
[03:57] <SupreX> I already been checking that memory usage and CPU usage. It's a clean installation with only Plex Media Server installed (no activity) and I'm on a i7 8700k with 8 GB DDR4 RAM.
[03:57] <SupreX> CPU usage is about 1-2 % and memory usage is peaking about 10 %
[03:58] <Boyette> thats not causing the lag
[03:59] <dakshina> how can i install my wifi driver
[03:59] <Boyette> i think windows lagging
[03:59] <Boyette> u didnt install videodriver
[03:59] <Boyette> graphics are using ur ram now
[03:59] <Boyette> instead of gram
[03:59] <kenrin> or the HDD is dying
[03:59] <SupreX> Aha... How to fix that?
[03:59] <dakshina> tnx
[04:00] <SupreX> I think videodriver issue maybe?
[04:00] <Boyette> yes
[04:00] <Boyette> it should be
[04:00] <Boyette> type this
[04:00] <Boyette> sudo dmidecode | grep Version
[04:01] <SupreX> 	Version: P1.40 	Version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. 	Version:                        	Version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. 	Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz 		uCode Version 		ME Firmware Version 		SKL PCH H Bx Hsio Version 		SKL PCH H Dx Hsio Version 		KBL PCH H Ax Hsio Version 		SKL PCH LP Bx Hsio Version 		SKL PCH LP Cx Hsio Version 		SA - PCIe Version
[04:01] <Boyette> and this
[04:01] <Boyette> lspci | grep VGA
[04:01] <SupreX> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 3e92
[04:03] <Boyette> lubuntu
[04:03] <Boyette> which version?
[04:03] <SupreX> latest long term
[04:03] <Boyette> lsb_release -a
[04:04] <SupreX> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial
[04:04] <oerheks> known issue, see the fix 'i915.alpha_support=1' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1728313
[04:04] <SupreX> Crap...
[04:04] <SupreX> Is there not current solution for it?
[04:04] <oerheks> yes, just wrote that, and the url
[04:05] <SupreX> if it's not supported yet... there isn't right.
[04:05] <oerheks> also here, same fix https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2377324&p=13739391#post13739391
[04:05] <SupreX> Except you can't compile some drivers?
[04:05] <SupreX> Ah... I'll read.
[04:06] <oerheks> sudo nano /etc/default/grub # add that line, and run sudo update-grub # and reboot
[04:11] <SupreX> TYVM I'll try to reboot and I'll see what happens. Thanks again.
[04:12] <oerheks> Let us know ..
[04:15] <Boyette> use ubuntu mate 18 it will work
[04:18] <akik> oerheks: is the i915.alpha_support about the transparency or the driver status (alpha, beta) ?
[04:19] <LanDi> hey guys, for some reason, my second display is not working on ubuntu. can you guys help me to fix it?
[04:19] <oerheks> not sure what part, but the bugreport mentions that it will be supported with the 4.15 kernel
[04:19] <akik> ok it's explained in phoronix.com. thanks
[04:20] <oerheks> LanDi, 2nd display, on a laptop??
[04:20] <LanDi> nope, I have a dual monitor setup, actually I have 3 displays connected, but I want to use 2. after try to install nvidia drivers, just one is working
[04:21] <LanDi> oerheks, >
[04:21] <oerheks> LanDi, oke, and what ubuntu version?
[04:23] <LanDi> oerheks, 17.10
[04:24] <oerheks> LanDi, so you have chosen Xorg? as wayland does not support nvidia drivers yet
[04:24] <oerheks> see in nvidia-settings ?
[04:25] <LanDi> oerheks, ohh, I did uncheck a wayland line in some text file... let me check it out
[04:26] <oerheks> logout, switch to xorg, and see if that solves
[04:30] <sicatriz> hello
[04:30] <EriC^^> hi
[04:30] <sicatriz> i am man and you?
[04:31] <oerheks> who cares, this is ubuntu technical support
[04:34] <LanDi> oerheks, haha, I worked, thanks man
[04:35] <oerheks> LanDi, have fun!
[04:43] <articulas> Good to be back.... I tried Debian and Mate... Omg... It made me realize how much Ubuntu rocks.
[04:43] <oerheks> !yay
[05:03] <gotes> Question: Trying to change settings with Compiz Config (CCSM) but changes don't save. Any suggestions how save changes permanently?
[05:04] <EriC^^> gotes: try sudo chown -R $USER: ~/
[05:20] <Firsttime> hllo
[05:47] <CyberZaZa> I made a live USB flash drive of Ubuntu 17.10. I can't boot it on my BIOS. it just won't show up
[05:50] <gotes> quit
[05:59] <CyberZaZa> anyone here?
[06:03] <nojm> how do you irc bosses find a channel relavent
[06:04] <nojm> how do you guys find a irc channel relevent to a given topic is there a google for irc channels (noob irc)
[06:04] <nojm> list command is not really what im after
[06:04] <CyberZaZa> looks like the list command
[06:05] <null00> "/msg alis list 'search term'"
[06:05] <nojm> is that pretty much my only option?
[06:05] <blue1> do a /list
[06:06] <nojm> where from-guessing not from a channel im in already am using pigeon
[06:08] <blue1> in the box you are currently typing in
[06:09] <blue1> brings a popup
[06:09] <nojm> nice got it up if i want other network/server list just do it after connection the server yeah
[06:10] <blue1> you should probably take this to ubuntu-offtopic
[06:10] <nojm> thanks for your help and sorry
[06:10] <blue1> no worries
[06:11] <nojm> ubuntu off topic channel name is 'ubuntuofftopic'
[06:13] <blue1> ahh
[06:14] <nojm> all good found it
[06:18] <jk^> hi all, while lubuntu is doing updates, do i have to close all opened applications?
[06:19] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: no, although certain apps might become unstable if they get updated until you close and reopen them
[06:20] <blue1> jk^: i don't
[06:21] <blue1> but yes it depends on what's being updated
[06:23] <jk^> it doesn't ask me to close any applications :\ my doubt is if it's possible that without closing anything it may give any problems to the applications or to the system
[06:23] <jk^> blue1, Triffid_Hunter
[06:23] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: not really, linux simply doesn't have the issues that windows does regarding open files
[06:24] <blue1> true that
[06:24] <jk^> ok :)
[06:24] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: the vast majority of programs don't care if the on-disk binaries get updated while they're running. There's a few exceptions, eg if you upgrade nvidia proprietary drivers, anything that uses opengl will break until you modprobe the matching kernel module
[06:25] <jk^> modprobe what means?
[06:25] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: and it's hypothetically possible that certain programs will barf if their on-disk files change to a newer version although I can't think of any specific one that does this
[06:26] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: modprobe is for loading drivers
[06:26] <jk^> is it an app "modprobe"?
[06:27] <Triffid_Hunter> jk^: terminal command, if it sounds scary you can simply reboot to get your new graphics drivers sorted
[06:40] <sun`> анд ел ламе
[06:41] <sun`> ламе el
[06:41] <sun`> hahahah
[06:41] <sun`> amatiorchince
[06:43] <sun`> westerns is funny but stupid el :)
[06:47] <zacknite> Hi. I'm trying to get networking to work on Ubuntu
[06:47] <zacknite> Someone said to do "dmesg" and look for brcmf and show you guys
[06:47] <zacknite> This is what it says when I do that:
[06:48] <zacknite> brcmfmac mmc0:0001:1 Direct firmware load for brcm/mrcmfmac43340 -stdio.txt failed with error -2
[06:50] <zacknite> Might anyone know what I would need to do to get networking?
[06:50] <Triffid_Hunter> zacknite: start with sudo apt-get install linux-firmware
[06:50] <timdotrb> Evening, all
[06:50] <timdotrb> Is there any way to tell what on your server is using swap?
[06:52] <zacknite> Triffid_Hunter: It says linux-firmware is already installed to the newest version, then on the next line, it says linux-firmware set to manually installed
[06:52] <zacknite> Mind you, this is on a machine with no networking
[06:54] <Triffid_Hunter> zacknite: hmm that's troublesome, might need to tether your wifi through your phone or something
[06:54] <Triffid_Hunter> zacknite: broadcom stuff is always difficult
[06:56] <zacknite> Triffid_Hunter: To tether to my phone, I'd have to have a working wifi device, wouldn't I? Is there a way I can put the drivers I need on a usb and load them from there?
[06:57] <Triffid_Hunter> zacknite: yeah sure, I don't know how to do that in ubuntu though
[07:00] <jackie`> el https://forum.bgirc.com/topic/143-ubuntu-linuxdebian/
[07:00] <jackie`> see
[07:00] <jackie`> i am only
[07:01] <el> jackie`: that doesn't mean your contributions here have been helpful at all.
[07:02] <jackie`> Bulgarians
[07:02] <jackie`> may be
[07:02] <el> stick to helping there and stop disrupting here.
[07:02] <Leagnus41> Hello!
[07:02] <Leagnus41> fresh install:
[07:02] <Leagnus41> After sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:02] <Leagnus41> Lenovo laptop with Intel & nVidia hangs
[07:03] <jackie`> stop bann me
[07:03] <Leagnus41> file  /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty
[07:03] <jackie`> fot nothing
[07:03] <jackie`> i stop
[07:03] <Triffid_Hunter> Leagnus41: log in on terminal, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:04] <el> jackie`: the pinging people and nonsense talking here will stop then? if so then the bans will.
[07:04] <jackie`> why bann me el un cloam my user anadar to cloak and bann me
[07:04] <jackie`> what is the problem
[07:05] <jackie`> 5 years nick not cloak
[07:05] <el> jackie`: this isn't the place to talk about that.
[07:05] <jackie`> no 2 cloak in mty accunt
[07:05] <jackie`> you bannme freenode
[07:05] <el> you've shown that you know how to pm in the past.
[07:06] <Neo4> gparted doesn't work, and I've decided to use other app, What do you suggest alternative gparted?
[07:06] <Neo4> I want to add space to my main partition
[07:06] <jackie`> not be arrogant east europens not interesting this
[07:07] <bazhang> Neo4, is this the shared drive with windows
[07:07] <jackie`> joint evry minute evry chanel and freenode
[07:07] <Leagnus41> Triffid_Hunter: EE no screens found
[07:07] <Neo4> bazhang: I don't know
[07:08] <bazhang> Neo4, you said you want to add space to the ubuntu partition
[07:08] <Leagnus41> Devices detected but none match those in config file
[07:08] <Neo4> bazhang: yes
[07:08] <bazhang> Neo4, what's the space being taken from
[07:08] <Neo4> from windows
[07:08] <bazhang> Neo4, so they share a hdd
[07:09] <Neo4> I've already cut from windows
[07:09] <jaymam> Hi, I'm new to all this. Why is Files 3.10.1 (Nautilus?) so slow to display a picture? It takes 30 seconds or more
[07:09] <Neo4> bazhang: yes ssd
[07:09] <Triffid_Hunter> Leagnus41: sounds like your graphics driver ain't working.. see which one it's picked. is this one of those dual gpu systems? there's some secret sauce you need to get those happy, ask google
[07:09] <bazhang> Neo4, so windows is installed
[07:09] <Neo4> yes
[07:09] <bazhang> Neo4, and you want to have one larger space for an ubuntu install
[07:10] <Leagnus41> Triffid_Hunter: yep, it is
[07:10] <Neo4> bazhang: yes
[07:10] <bazhang> Neo4, and you said gparted doesnt work
[07:10] <Neo4> bazhang: gparted doesn't run, I got error Assertion (metadata_length > 0) at ../../../libparted/labels/dos.c:2313 in function add_logical_part_metadata() failed.
[07:10] <Neo4> bazhang: yes
[07:11] <bazhang> Neo4, are you trying to use gparted on a running system
[07:12] <Neo4> bazhang: try on running and from ubuntu usb, error is equal
[07:12] <bazhang> Neo4, you have to boot from the gparted or ubuntu live usb and do the disk partitioning on the unmounted system
[07:13] <Neo4> bazhang: how boot from granted?
[07:13] <bazhang> Neo4, that means you need to not do it from a system that is running in use, ie it is NOT mounted
[07:14] <bazhang> Neo4, you burn either the ubuntu iso to usb, or the gparted iso to usb, and select to boot from usb in the bios
[07:14] <Neo4> bazhang: I did form usb and the same error
[07:15] <bazhang> Neo4, what did you boot
[07:15] <Neo4> bazhang: this is my theme https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2385035&p=13740044#post13740044
[07:15] <bazhang> Neo4, theme means nothing here
[07:15] <bazhang> Neo4, what did you boot
[07:16] <Leagnus41> i'm novice, uname -r    returns 4.13.0-32-generic
[07:16] <Leagnus41> how do i install Linux headers for the kernel?
[07:16] <Neo4> bazhang: ubuntu from usb, there press 'try ubuntu' and there chose gparted and got the same error
[07:16] <bazhang> Leagnus41, from the package manager
[07:16] <Leagnus41> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') - right?
[07:16] <Neo4> bazhang: hibernate and fast start in windows off
[07:16] <Leagnus41> i have terminal only
[07:17] <bazhang> Neo4, where did you select boot order
[07:17] <bazhang> Leagnus41, then apt-cache search package from the terminal
[07:17] <Neo4> bazhang: in bios
[07:18] <Neo4> usb first
[07:18] <Neo4> bazhang: I think to try other app is it exists
[07:18] <bazhang> Neo4, what was second, and how did you burn the original iso to usb
[07:18] <Neo4> bazhang: using ubootin
[07:18] <Neo4> I installed ubuntu from this USB, it's working usb
[07:19] <bazhang> Neo4, thats the problem then
[07:19] <Neo4> bazhang: on ubuntu only gparted and nothing else? I can other to try, might be it will work
[07:20] <bazhang> Neo4, what do you mean, gparted has their own 60mb iso to burn to usb
[07:20] <Neo4> bazhang: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852018.png
[07:21] <bazhang> Neo4, dont use unetbootin to do it
[07:21] <Neo4> bazhang: there many others, or they not suited?
[07:22] <bazhang> Neo4, the problem is not with gparted, it's your burn that's the problem
[07:22] <Neo4> bazhang: can you run gparted form installed ubuntu?
[07:23] <bazhang> Neo4, you would need to install it, but one never does that, as it's trying to do it on a running system
[07:23] <Neo4> bazhang: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852195.png
[07:23] <bazhang> Neo4, so fix the original usb burn, not using unetbootin
[07:23] <Neo4> it can't run
[07:24] <bazhang> Neo4, so you need to re-burn the iso to usb
[07:24] <Neo4> bazhang: it's normal usb, I installed my current ubuntu from it and it works normally
[07:25] <bazhang> Neo4, is normally now or not now
[07:25] <Neo4> bazhang: ok, I'll try, I have one more usb
[07:25] <bazhang> Neo4, just overwrite the current one
[07:25] <Neo4> bazhang: I think was there and now, I can go to live ubuntu
[07:26] <Neo4> can I write from linux live usb?
[07:26] <bazhang> Neo4, is that what you are using
[07:27] <bazhang> Neo4, is linuxlive something based on ubuntu
[07:27] <Neo4> bazhang: ubootin from windows, I want to try from ubuntu
[07:27] <Neo4> yes I don't know
[07:28] <Neo4> bazhang: tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#0
[07:28] <bazhang> Neo4, you just mentioned linux live, is that the system on your computer
[07:28] <Neo4> bazhang: ubuntu
[07:28] <Neo4> bazhang: not live, real
[07:31] <Neo4> bazhang: prepared for write, disk is formating now
[07:31] <dakshina> hi
[07:32] <bazhang> Neo4, using what to write it
[07:32] <Neo4> bazhang: startup disk creator
[07:33] <dakshina> i'm new to ubuntu
[07:33] <Neo4> bazhang: http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1518852779.png
[07:33] <Neo4> I'll try it and disck is formatting using ubunu disks tool, I'll check how it works
[07:35] <jaymam> I've used Ubuntu for 6 years but don't understand all the jargon
[07:35] <Neo4> bazhang: I think there reason something else not usb
[07:35] <bazhang> jaymam, why not have a look at the free pdf ubuntu manual then
[07:36] <bazhang> !manual
[07:36] <bazhang> jaymam, ^
[07:36] <jaymam> thanks
[07:37] <jaymam> At the moment I have a problem with  Nautilus taking 30 seconds to display a picture
[07:38] <bazhang> jaymam, what's the available ram on that machine
[07:38] <jaymam> 2 gb
[07:38] <bazhang> jaymam, is that all the ram, or just the available
[07:38] <Neo4> little
[07:39] <jaymam> This PC is on 14.04 with total 2 GB
[07:39] <Neo4> 2gb only desktop eats
[07:39] <Neo4> jaymam: when you run ubuntu how much there available ram left?
[07:39] <bazhang> jaymam, is this a recent occurrence
[07:40] <jaymam> I want to sort out my 100,000 files and copy to a new PC on 16.04 with 4 GB RAM
[07:40] <jaymam> I don't know how to tell how much RAM is left
[07:40] <bazhang> jaymam, has the system been indexed
[07:41] <jaymam> I doubt it is indexed
[07:41] <underd0g> jaymam: htop will tell you
[07:41] <bazhang> jaymam, so you mean just recently the thumbnails take a long time to draw
[07:42] <jaymam> I can see a bunch of thumbnails in a directory. When I click on one it takes 30 seconds to display the picture
[07:42] <jaymam> No, Nautilus has always been slow.
[07:43] <Neo4> jaymam: it can be your disk is hurt
[07:43] <bazhang> Neo4, thats not likely
[07:43] <Neo4> load speed depends on disk, on ssd it will faster
[07:44] <bazhang> jaymam, what happens when you right click open with
[07:44] <jaymam> I'll put some files on the new machine and see what that is like. It has taken me 4 years to get  14.04 or 15.04 to work because of drivers
[07:44] <bazhang> Neo4, did you need further help with your issue
[07:45] <Neo4> bazhang: yes, I think it won't work with new USB, theme is opened
[07:46] <bazhang> Neo4, why do you mention the theme, that's not going to be important here
[07:46] <jaymam> It took 13 seconds for right click and open with image viewer. It is usually much slower. I think I lack memory.
[07:46] <Neo4> bazhang: ok, issue is not solved*
[07:47] <Neo4> problem is not solved
[07:47] <bazhang> jaymam, top can show that, or htop if you install it
[07:47] <jaymam> I don't know where to find top
[07:48] <bazhang> jaymam, you simply type top in the terminal
[07:48] <Neo4> jaymam: listen I remember my photoshop was long time loading, and I bought SSD disk and it started very fast work, 3 - 5 seconds and opened, before wos 30 - 60 seconds
[07:49] <jaymam> I forget how to open a terminal
[07:49] <bazhang> Neo4, please dont recommend a hardware upgrade here
[07:49] <bazhang> jaymam, ctrl alt T
[07:52] <jaymam> KiB Mem 2036468 total 226396 free
[07:53] <Neo4> jaymam: would be better if  you did screenshot...
[07:54] <Triffid_Hunter> free -m is more descriptive since it takes into account cached files and buffers which can be cleared in almost zero time if more ram is needed
[07:55] <jaymam> How do I post a picture here?
[07:55] <Triffid_Hunter> mine says total 32154 used 6484 free 1833 shared 3604 buff/cache 23835 available 21589 - so even though there's only 1.8G not being used, there's 21G which could be given to any program that needs it
[07:55] <Neo4> jaymam: upload here for example https://imgbb.com/
[07:56] <Neo4> or use shatter
[07:56] <marcus_> hello  i am new here
[07:56] <Neo4> shutter*
[07:57] <jaymam> https://s18.postimg.org/52d8izu09/ubuntu.jpg
[07:59] <Neo4> jaymam: you don't have RAM, you use swap
[08:00] <Neo4> jaymam: increase RAM and it must to work faster
[08:01] <jaymam> Well I want to stop using this PC as it's old and I have a new machine. But I want to sort out the directory structure first as its a mess.
[08:02] <Neo4> jaymam: run one application for a time
[08:03] <Neo4> don't open many, it could help
[08:03] <Triffid_Hunter> jaymam: then mount its disk on your faster machine with sshfs or similar, then the low ram doesn't matter
[08:03] <xplosiff> Hello, trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop. It boots from the USB fine, gets past the loading screen with the dots at the bottom but it is stuck in an infinite loop - starts with a '_' cursor top left, and shortly afterwards the mouse becomes visible and can be moved around for a minute or 2 before it restarts with the '_'.
[08:03] <Triffid_Hunter> jaymam: my server only has 512M of ram and it handles everything just fine
[08:04] <Triffid_Hunter> xplosiff: sounds like your session is crashing, log in on terminal and check ~/.xsession-errors
[08:04] <xplosiff> how do I go about doing that? I haven't used any version of linux for quite a few years sorry
[08:04] <Neo4> Triffid_Hunter: it's not server, this is desktop, it also handles fine only open window for 30 seconds
[08:05] <jaymam> OK thanks, I will make do for the moment
[08:06] <jaymam> Searching for files is remarkably quick.
[08:07] <xplosiff> do I need to select 'try ubuntu before installing' and attempt to install from the desktop?
[08:09] <Neo4> xplosiff: you needn't, it's up to you... to make your dreams come true :)
[08:09] <Neo4> xplosiff: try ubuntu its live cd
[08:09] <bazhang> Neo4, thats not helpful
[08:10] <Neo4> bazhang: stupid questions - stupid answer...
[08:10] <bazhang> Neo4, thats not a stupid question
[08:11] <bazhang> Neo4, no joking/ useless answers here
[08:11] <Neo4> bazhang: its not important, he can try or not, How he wants
[08:11] <Neo4> bazhang: I answered How i can :)
[08:12] <auronandace> Neo4: you needn't answer if you don't have anything senible to say
[08:12] <xplosiff> He may have missed the first message.. there is more to my issue. anyway I'm just checking the disk for defects now, if it passes I will try boot from the usb. The laptop should be OK as it was running 8.1 30mins ago without an issue.
[08:12] <Neo4> auronandace: ok, I won't
[08:17] <jaymam> I found that a new install didn't work until I got new graphics drivers. The machine died before I could get them. However, now fixed.
[08:28] <xplosiff> Jayman: how did you work around that?
[08:35] <netochka> hi. how can i stop bluetooth from being enabled on startup?
[08:44] <Streetz> Hello
[08:45] <Streetz>  No speak ingles
[08:45] <Streetz> Help!
[08:45] <ducasse> !es
[08:56] <netochka> hi. how can i stop bluetooth from being enabled on startup?
[08:58] <EoflaOE> netochka, Can you try 'sudo update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove' and reboot?
[08:58] <netochka> ill give it a shot
[08:58] <Space-Duck> netochka, go to "Settings" (Dash > type Settings). There should be a Bluetooh options
[09:03] <CyberZaZa> hi
[09:04] <netochka> eoflaeo i tried that but it's still on.
[09:04] <CyberZaZa> what happened netochka?
[09:04] <netochka> Space-Duck there is a bluetooth option. but it's only for turning it on/off. there is no option to disable
[09:05] <EoflaOE> netochka, I will try to look it up.
[09:05] <auronandace> netochka: if you want it off permanantly you could blacklist the bluetooth module
[09:06] <netochka> yea i want it to disable it completely so it wouldn't be automatically on everyone i start the system
[09:08] <netochka> how would i blacklist the module. and also, if i blacklist it, will i be able to use it anytime i want?
[09:08] <ledeni> netochka, systemctl disable bluetooth.service
[09:09] <netochka> ok
[09:10] <ledeni> netochka, if you need bluetooth systemctl start bluetooth.service
[09:10] <netochka> update-rc.d: error: unable to write /etc/init/bluetooth.override
[09:10] <xplosiff> Okay I got past my issue by enabling 'nomodeset' under advanced options (F6) at the main menu. The new issue I am facing is trying to format the disk. Earlier, I shrunk my windows 8.1 volume and left 200gb unallocated, for Ubuntu. In the installer I co to 'Something else' and try to crate a partition on the unallocated space - whenever I select it and try to create a partition, the installer
[09:10] <xplosiff> goes back to the 'Installation Type' page before I can hit OK on the 'Create Partition' window and then all buttons do not do anything but are still animated if I click them - I have to restart.
[09:10] <netochka> ledeni i tried that line but this error came up >  update-rc.d: error: unable to write /etc/init/bluetooth.override
[09:13] <ledeni> netochka, you using bluetooth right now?
[09:13] <netochka> no it's not in use. it's just on by default on startup
[09:14] <netochka> i also entered the command line after turning it off but still the same error
[09:15] <Pd1> hi folks - stuck on an "invalid partition table" error at boot up. anyone feel like lending a hand?
[09:16] <auronandace> Pd1: i wouldn't know where to start to help you but i hope you made backups because it sounds likt you'll need them
[09:17] <EriC^^> Pd1: do you have a live usb you can boot to troubleshoot?
[09:20] <ledeni> netochka, systemctl list-units | fpaste give us url
[09:21] <Pd1> sorry, was booted. running into an "invalid partition table" upon boot up - would love any assistance
[09:21] <netochka> ledeni is that a whole command?
[09:22] <EriC^^> Pd1: where exactly are you getting that command?
[09:22] <ledeni> netochka, 'systemctl list-units | fpaste'
[09:22] <EriC^^> ledeni: what's fpaste?
[09:22] <ledeni> opps
[09:23] <netochka> No command 'fpaste' found, did you mean > mpaste or paste
[09:23] <Pd1> EriC^^ - right after a seemingly successful install. Upon first boot without install media
[09:23] <netochka> shall i use mpaste instead?
[09:23] <EriC^^> Pd1: so it doesn't boot into the os ?
[09:24] <Pd1> correct
[09:24] <Pd1> i'm installing for the first time on this machine
[09:24] <ledeni> netochka, yes
[09:24] <ducasse> netochka: use pastebinit, should be there by default
[09:24] <EriC^^> Pd1: ok, are you in the live usb right now?
[09:24] <netochka> it seems that i have to install mpaste first.
[09:24] <netochka> w8
[09:25] <EriC^^> netochka: no, dont install that
[09:25] <Pd1> EriC^^: i can be, yes. am trying 14.4 next, but have had the error with 16 and 17 so far
[09:25] <netochka> ok
[09:25] <EriC^^> netochka: use 'systemctl .... | nc termbin.com 9999' to paste from the terminal
[09:26] <ledeni> EriC^^, thanks
[09:26] <EriC^^> Pd1: do you know exactly where you're getting the invalid partition table error? is it in grub? or later in the boot process
[09:26] <EriC^^> grub's purple usually
[09:26] <EriC^^> ledeni: sure thing
[09:26] <Pd1> EriC^^: it's right after POST
[09:26] <Pd1> after the RAID screen
[09:26] <EriC^^> Pd1: wow so not even grub
[09:26] <netochka> likes this? > systemctl list-units | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:27] <EriC^^> netochka: yeah
[09:27] <Pd1> EriC^^: I saw a support article on Dell's site suggesting a BIOS update would resolve this, but it did not
[09:28] <Pd1> EriC^^ 14.4 is officially supported on this machine, so was going to try that next
[09:28] <EriC^^> hmm what pc model is it exactly?
[09:28] <Pd1> EriC: Dell Precision 5810
[09:28] <Pd1> dual SSD RAID1
[09:28] <EriC^^> Pd1: ok, well if it's bios related then all that matters here is bios -> booting grub, and grub is the same on all ubuntu versions
[09:28] <EriC^^> are you using uefi?
[09:28] <netochka> http://termbin.com/0opi
[09:29] <Pd1> EriC: believe i'm using legacy
[09:29] <EriC^^> Pd1: then it's definitely not version related i'd say
[09:29] <netochka> on a different subject, how can i write down your guys' nicknames by shortcut? so i don' have to write down the nick myself
[09:29] <EriC^^> netochka: type the first few letters and hit TAB
[09:30] <netochka> EriC^^: Ty
[09:30] <netochka> :D
[09:30] <netochka> been on irc many years ago. trying to remember stuff
[09:31] <Pd1> EriC^^: going through 14.4 install now via USB
[09:32] <EriC^^> Pd1: try installing in uefi mode
[09:32] <Pd1> EriC^^: "one or more drives containing MDAM containers (Intel/DDF RAID) have been found. Do you wish to activate these RAID devices?"
[09:33] <Pd1> i've been saying "Yes" here and on the next screen asking
[09:33] <Pd1> to activate Serial ATA RAID Devices
[09:33] <EriC^^> Pd1: my guess is as good as yours
[09:33] <EriC^^> i would try using uefi mode though
[09:33] <Pd1> EriC^^: I did try UEFI mode once without success
[09:33] <akik> Pd1: if the laptop has a built-in raid controller use that
[09:33] <akik> Pd1: mdadm is linux's software raid
[09:34] <Pd1> akik: this is a hardware RAID controller. desktop
[09:34] <Pd1> so should I have said "No" to MDAM containers?
[09:34] <EriC^^> won't hurt to try
[09:34] <akik> Pd1: you'd probably need to set the hardware raid controller first, before the install
[09:35] <EriC^^> Pd1: i'd try to install 16.04 in uefi mode and figure out the raid stuff as akik suggested
[09:35] <Pd1> akik: i've configured the hardware raid controller
[09:35] <akik> Pd1: ok so then no mdadm/mdraid needed
[09:35] <Pd1> and did try 16.04 in UEFI
[09:35] <Pd1> cool. i'll say "no" then'
[09:35] <akik> Pd1: although now the mdraid signatures might've been written to the disk
[09:36] <Pd1> akik: why would it detect and want to activate containers?
[09:37] <akik> Pd1: the installer probably doesn't know about the hardware raid controller. it just sees a logical device that the hardware raid controller shows
[09:37] <Pd1> akik: ok - trying now with "no" on mdadm and "yes" on ATA RAID
[09:39] <greedy_eti> hi
[09:39] <netochka> guys, how is it that some channels got ## infront of them instead of #?
[09:39] <EriC^^> netochka: they're not official channels
[09:39] <netochka> i see, thx
[09:40] <greedy_eti> netochka: русский ?
[09:40] <EriC^^> !ru | greedy_eti
[09:40] <netochka> EriC^^: btw, did u get a chance to check the link?
[09:40] <EriC^^> netochka: 1 sec
[09:40] <netochka> greedy_eti i don't speak russian (unfortunately)
[09:40] <greedy_eti> netochka: ok sorry
[09:41] <netochka> np
[09:44] <Pd1> EriC^^: invalid partition table
[09:44] <Pd1> akik: same
[09:45] <EriC^^> Pd1: akik maybe answering no to both questions?
[09:45] <akik> Pd1: does the installer show you ata raid as the hardware raid logical device?
[09:45] <EriC^^> netochka: you're trying to disable bluetooth from starting?
[09:45] <Pd1> EriC^^: will try that next time
[09:46] <akik> +
[09:46] <Pd1> akik: installer showed raid device with the correct GB
[09:46] <Pd1> going back to 16 now
[09:46] <netochka> yes. i don't want it to be ON automatically everytime i start the system.
[09:46] <Pd1> will try no/no there
[09:46] <akik> Pd1: but where do you see ata raid?
[09:47] <EriC^^> Pd1: cool, try with uefi mode, maybe using refind or some other trick would help get it booting
[09:47] <Pd1> akik: ata raid disks was the question after mdadm
[09:48] <akik> Pd1: i'm pretty sure if you have a hardware raid contoller and use it, then say no to the installer's raid questions. it's already setup
[09:48] <Pd1> EriC^^: i'm going into my raid controller and removing then re-adding the partitions before installing
[09:48] <EriC^^> netochka: give this a shot https://askubuntu.com/questions/67758/how-can-i-deactivate-bluetooth-on-system-startup
[09:49] <Pd1> akik: will try no/no - have been saying "yes" because the installer says it detects the hardware/disks
[09:49] <netochka> ty
[09:49] <akik> Pd1: some fake raid controllers even worked in a way that even if you setup the fakeraid controller, the installer saw both disks as separate
[09:51] <Pd1> killing raid volume and recreating now
[09:52] <akik> Pd1: of course it's hard to known precisely as i don't have that kind of new hardware :)
[09:52] <Pd1> EriC^^: i'm in UEFI now
[09:53] <Pd1> choose "install ubuntu server" or OEM install?
[09:53] <akik> Pd1: the first
[09:53] <Pd1> ok
[09:55] <Pd1> chose no/no
[09:56] <Pd1> Guided - use entire disk? or guided - use entire disk and set up LVM?
[09:56] <Pd1> or encrypted, or manual?
[09:56] <akik> Pd1: just try the entire disk now
[09:57] <akik> Pd1: lvm is a system which lets you enlarge logical volumes when you add new storage
[09:57] <Pd1> ok - next screen sees Raid1 device #126 - 486.5 gb software raid device
[09:57] <Pd1> pretty sure mine is hardware...detecting software raid device here tho
[09:57] <akik> Pd1: that is a sign that the installer sees the mdadm signatures
[09:58] <Pd1> i said "no" on mdadm..
[09:58] <akik> Pd1: you'd need to erase them
[09:58] <akik> Pd1: they were written on the disk when you selected yes :)
[09:58] <Pd1> ugh! but wouldn't it be wiped when i removed the Volume on the raid controller?
[09:59] <akik> Pd1: probably(?)
[09:59] <EriC^^> my guess is no cause they're software raids and the other are hardware?
[09:59] <netochka> EriC^^:  ty that worked
[09:59] <Pd1> should i bail? or continue?
[10:00] <EriC^^> netochka: great, no problem
[10:00] <akik> Pd1: i've used this command before to handle that: mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX
[10:01] <akik> Pd1: you'd need to run it from a live session
[10:01] <Pd1> not sure how to get to a live session command line..
[10:02] <akik> Pd1: you can use the terminal in a live session
[10:03] <Pd1> i'm continuing this install to see if no/no changes anything...then will wipe mdadm
[10:03] <Pd1> can i get to terminal using this boot usb?
[10:03] <EriC^^> Pd1: yeah, you select 'try ubuntu' in the grub menu
[10:03] <Pd1> thanks
[10:04] <Pd1> then just paste in: --zero-superblock /dev/sdX ?
[10:04] <akik> Pd1: use "sudo parted -l" to see the device name. the command is mdadm
[10:05] <EriC^^> Pd1: sudo mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX     (replace sdX with the disk name from 'sudo parted -ls' output)
[10:05] <Pd1> got it
[10:05] <Pd1> wrapping up a likely failed install now :)
[10:07] <akik> Pd1: if you setup the hardware raid controller, you should only see one storage device name (if you have two disks in raid1)
[10:08] <Pd1> akik: that's correct
[10:08] <Pd1> i only see 1 device (other than USB) in the setup
[10:09] <Pd1> install complete
[10:09] <Pd1> moment of truth
[10:10] <Pd1> different error now. "no boot device found"
[10:10] <EriC^^> Pd1: nice, progress
[10:10] <EriC^^> Pd1: try looking in the bios for a uefi boot order list
[10:10] <EriC^^> or a 'trust' option possibly
[10:11] <Pd1> hmm. looking at boot sequence now
[10:11] <Pd1> i see Boot List Option of Legacy or UEFI
[10:11] <Pd1> set to Legacy
[10:11] <Pd1> suspect i should change to UEFI
[10:12] <EriC^^> Pd1: yeah
[10:12] <Pd1> it sees ubuntu
[10:12] <Pd1> let's try this
[10:13] <Pd1> holy moses
[10:13] <Pd1> booting now
[10:13] <Pd1> i don't even know what to do
[10:13] <Pd1> lol
[10:14] <akik> congrats! :)
[10:14] <Pd1> man, thank you guys
[10:14] <Pd1> been cranking on this for hours
[10:14] <Pd1> with no luck
[10:14] <teasp00n> hey guys. im having an issue with apt-get uggrade returning 404s for a couple of the repos. it appears to be looking for arm64 binaries that aren't there. i am on an x86_64 machine so im not sure why it is looking at those anyway. console output here: https://pastebin.com/GzhzLLxc
[10:14] <akik> Pd1: it's safe to say "we've all been there"
[10:14] <EriC^^> Pd1: np, enjoy! :D
[10:14] <Pd1> akik: thank you EriC^^: thank you!
[10:14] <netochka> are there any other free softwares to bypass filters/hide ip rather than Tor?
[10:15] <EriC^^> teasp00n: pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:19] <teasp00n> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/wRDNcK0T
[10:19] <teasp00n> there are a bunch of lists in sources.list.d/ too
[10:20] <teasp00n> it was fine the other day, then i did an upgrade that im pretty sure included an upgrade to apt itself. now i have woes haha
[10:22] <EriC^^> teasp00n: pastebin the output of 'tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*'
[10:24] <EriC^^> teasp00n: also try 'dpkg --print-foreign-architectures' and see what it prints
[10:24] <teasp00n> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/E5ndGX2f
[10:24] <teasp00n> will try that now
[10:25] <teasp00n> EriC^^: i386, arm64
[10:25] <teasp00n> --print-architecture is amd64 which is correct
[10:27] <EriC^^> teasp00n: if you don't need the arm64 one run 'sudo dpkg --remove-architecture arm64'
[10:28] <netochka> EriC^^:  i started a download using wget. but i closed the terminal by accicent. is the download still active in the background? if yes. how can i see the process
[10:28] <EriC^^> netochka: nope it's gone
[10:28] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: nope it's cancelled unless you're using screen or tmux or something like that
[10:28] <netochka> ah ok.
[10:28] <EriC^^> netochka: 'ps aux | grep wget' should confirm
[10:29] <netochka> are those like download apps?
[10:29] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: no, they're (loosely) terminal-preservation apps
[10:29] <teasp00n> ok cool i think it should be safe to run that. out of interest why woudl i ever want a foreign architecture there? is that only if i need to cross compile for an arm device and need to link on some .so or something?
[10:29] <EriC^^> teasp00n: yeah i believe so
[10:29] <netochka> I see
[10:30] <netochka> i seriously have to find some manual or something for linux basics. concepts and commands n stuff
[10:30] <netochka> :D
[10:30] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: plenty of those, but the only way to not get overwhelmed is to take things a step at a time, finding the tools you need for each step
[10:31] <JimBunbtu> netochka, I agree with Triffid_Hunter and also say that you should immerse yourself if you want to learn quickly
[10:31] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: screen/tmux style terminal daemons were originally spurred by folks frustrated with trying to interact with servers over unstable internet links, but they have numerous applications for isolated systems too
[10:31] <netochka> yea i know what u mean. and it also feels great when u finally figure things out. I'm not going back to windows.
[10:32] <netochka> i see
[10:32] <JimBunbtu> GASP! Vindows
[10:32] <netochka> is it like some kind of resume support?
[10:32] <JimBunbtu> Seriously though, each OS has it's place, and I leave most of them in the past
[10:32] <netochka> JimBunbtu: yeppers
[10:33] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: no, it literally generates an entirely new terminal in which to run programs, and from your current terminal you can attach/detach at will
[10:33] <JimBunbtu> Triffid_Hunter, do you prefer tmux or screen? (I'm a tmux user)
[10:33] <netochka> I was fed up with windows. all the programs which you either have to buy or use cracked version
[10:33] <netochka> Triffid_Hunter: Aha. Got it
[10:33] <Triffid_Hunter> JimBunbtu: I'm familiar with screen, but having looked at its source once (warning; it's godawful spaghetti) I'm keen to try tmux
[10:34] <Triffid_Hunter> just haven't found the time and inclination to put myself through the relearning yet
[10:34] <JimBunbtu> Triffid_Hunter, nice. I wouldn't argue either way, simply interested to know. Either one is a great habit to develop.
[10:35] <netochka> I've got a file in my Home, Release.key. and it's entirely code. what's that?
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> JimBunbtu: I feel like screen development has stalled because it's too hard to develop due to the code structure.. I also feel that the use of any utility that performs this function is better than nothing for a wide range of tasks
[10:36] <Triffid_Hunter> netochka: rename it and see what barfs?
[10:37] <netochka> rename it to what?
[10:37] <netochka> what kind of format
[10:37] <JimBunbtu> Triffid_Hunter, I agree on both accounts. I see no reason for arguments on the lines of VIM or EMACS, TMUX or SCREEN and such.
[10:37] <JimBunbtu> netochka, I am not familiar with "Release.Key"
[10:38] <netochka> I tried running with Wine. It probably has something to do with that
[10:38] <netochka> running something*
[10:39] <JimBunbtu> netochka, if you open the file, does it start with something about PGP ?
[10:39] <netochka> I didn't get to that part. terminal showed some error and i gave up. at least for now
[10:40] <netochka> it was a windows program Psiphon. for bypassing the filters
[10:40] <netochka> Tor gets so slow sometimes so i am looking for altenatives
[10:42] <netochka> JimBunbtu:  i just looked again. and the file opens as Text. it says -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- and the rest is just codes like encrypted txt
[10:42] <JimBunbtu> It's actually an encryption key... specifically a PGP key.
[10:43] <netochka> So it need to be there? no need to touch it?
[10:43] <JimBunbtu> netochka, probably created by something you installed
[10:43] <JimBunbtu> netochka, No need to touch it
[10:43] <JimBunbtu> netochka, BTW... `touch` is a command, yet another of those ones you may want to learn a bit about... `man touch`
[10:46] <netochka> :D
[10:46] <netochka> Ty for the info
[10:47] <JimBunbtu> np,yw
[10:56] <xplosiff> After some messing around I got the OS to install. It never ends.
[10:57] <xplosiff> Now when I log in, screen goes dark, I hear a low pitched ding and it kicks me back to the login page. My password is correct.
[10:57] <Triffid_Hunter> xplosiff: that definitely sounds like session crashing, check ~/.xsession-errors
[10:57] <xplosiff> Looks like a dark terminal flashing up.
[10:58] <xplosiff> ctrl+alt+t does not work, as it has only just booted up, how do I access terminal on the lock screen
[10:58] <JimBunbtu> Ctrl-Shift-Number
[10:58] <JimBunbtu> sorry... ctrl-alt-number
[10:59] <xplosiff> number??
[10:59] <JimBunbtu> Function key number as in Ctrl-Alt-F4
[10:59] <xplosiff> aha
[10:59] <xplosiff> alright got into terminal, going to try that command now
[11:00] <xplosiff> it made me log in, and accepted user and password, but it says permission denied
[11:00] <JimBunbtu> permission denied when you try looking at ~.xsession-errors? Tru with sudo
[11:03] <xplosiff> sorry I type sudo ~/.xsession-errors - and it asked for my password but said command not found
[11:04] <JimBunbtu> `sudo cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999`
[11:04] <JimBunbtu> the above will provide you with a URL that you should paste into here, so others can see the contents of the file
[11:05] <xplosiff> http://termbin.com/4lus
[11:06] <JimBunbtu> I see it. Not sure what to make of the error so early on.
[11:07] <Triffid_Hunter> what's brltty?
[11:08] <xplosiff> I was logged on not 5 minutes ago, I restarted as I just updated the intel graphics drivers using the intel graphics update tool (v2.0.2) - I can't see how that would have anything to do with it but it may do. this is a fresh install
[11:08] <JimBunbtu> Triffid_Hunter, background deamon for login/txt mode
[11:08] <JimBunbtu> Graphics drivers are known to cause this login-loop issue
[11:09] <brainwash> !info brltty
[11:10] <xplosiff> 'unity7 pre-start process (2932) terminated with status 143' may be something to do with that, since this is where it tries to initialize the GUI
[11:12] <anarcho> Hi all! Can anyone help with getting bluetooth working in Kubuntu 17.10 running in virtbox? Thanks
[11:14] <xplosiff> another note - when I type logout in the terminal, it says failed to remove key (1, ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff) from hardware (-22), I don't know if it means anything or if something is corrupted.
[11:16] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, Fairly certain that is a distinct issue, related to the network.
[11:17] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, Did you only update the graphics module(s) or did you have to update your kernel as well?
[11:20] <xplosiff> What I did, since the fresh install of 16.04, is go straight to settings/about and do an update which took a while. I then restarted, and downloaded that tool from (https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.2) for the graphics drivers for my i7-4xxx and HD4600 graphics, which appeared to do everything automatically, restarted and this is where I am.
[11:22] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, "This tool aims to make the latest Intel® Graphics Stack available before it gets officially released by Linux* OS vendors." *before it gets officially released* is probably where the issue is
[11:23] <xplosiff> Aha. I would have left it, but the default drivers were near unusable as it was like watching a slideshow, I could see every frame of each animated object as I moved the mouse across it. What should I have done to update the intel drivers?
[11:23] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, Did you use the qdebi tool?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <JimBunbtu> Hiya BluesKaj
[11:23] <xplosiff> No never heard of that Jim
[11:24] <BluesKaj> hi JimBunbtu
[11:24] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, I am reading the page from the link you provided and it says for a successful install, you need to download/install/use the qdebi tool to install the Intel drivers
[11:27] <xplosiff> aha so I didn't read it properly. I probably didn't get that far through the procedure as it required a restart after running that package
[11:27] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, Well, I still say graphics drivers can foul up pretty bad... but it may be worth a shot to re-try the install while following the qdebi instructions
[11:33] <xplosiff> Looking through the gdebi instructions, I don't think they were relevant to me as I was able to launch and run the package fine. Is there a way I can run some sort of hardware/driver test from the terminal?
[11:39] <JimBunbtu> xplosiff, I am not sure. I wouldn't assume the install worked properly simply because you were able to run the install without seeing obvious error messages though.
[11:54] <irgendwer4711> how to compile a meltdown/spectre secure kernel? I took config of 4.4.0-112-generic and compiled myself. this kernel is not like the stock kernel 4.4.0-112-generic. why?
[11:57] <brainwash> irgendwer4711: I would ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[11:57] <irgendwer4711> good idea
[12:06] <Tecan> was wondering if anyone knows how to get to init 3 from grub ?
[12:07] <Tecan> or to turn off the graphics when booting
[12:07] <akik> Tecan: which ubuntu version?
[12:07] <Tecan> 17
[12:07] <Tecan> .10
[12:07] <Tecan> im trying to boot the live version
[12:08] <Tecan> on a tablet :)
[12:08] <akik> Tecan: you can set the default "run-level" in systemd with: sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[12:08] <akik> Tecan: systemd doesn't have runlevels anymore
[12:08] <akik> Tecan: it's possible to add the parameter at the grub boot level also
[12:08] <Tecan> 3 ?
[12:08] <akik> Tecan: hold on
[12:09] <akik> Tecan: systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[12:09] <Tecan> tried adding just a 3 to the e menu of grub. i have the live version on a usb drive
[12:09] <Tecan> put that in grub under initrd ?
[12:09] <akik> Tecan: that -^ is a kernel parameter you need to edit in grub
[12:09] <markus__> is it possible to create cloudwatch event , which trigger a lambda function , from android app? please help
[12:10] <JimBunbtu> markus__, sure it's possible
[12:11] <markus__> @jimbunbtu can you please guide me to some tutorial or documentation.
[12:11] <JimBunbtu> AWS has decent documentation in their mobile SDK. I presume you want to write your own app to do this... otherwise, you could use the AWS console app
[12:12] <Tecan> oh i see to the kernel boot line
[12:13] <JimBunbtu> markus__, It's a bit off-topic for this channel, but here is the URL for the Android SDK https://aws.amazon.com/mobile/resources/
[12:15] <dreamcat4> JimBunbtu: there are multiple channels specifically for android on freenode /msg alis search *android*
[12:16] <JimBunbtu> dreamcat4, Yes, I know, I'm not the one seeking it. markus__  please see the above from dreamcat4
[12:16] <markus__> i have checked the link you provided but it doesn't have any class to create cloudwatch event. i tried to get help in official channel ##aws but no help. i mistakenly posted the question on this channel and you answered!!
[12:16] <JimBunbtu> I'm also only guessing they were looking for android info. I gave the link for mobile in general and mispoke
[12:16] <dreamcat4> ...err sorry. anyhow the command should be list not search. sorry.
[12:16] <UBURoi> HI there good people forme the ubuntu realm
[12:16] <dreamcat4> as in /msg alis list *android*
[12:17] <JimBunbtu> no worries dreamcat4  You provided appropriate help :-D What more could any of us ask for?
[12:17] <markus__> @dreamcat4 i will try that
[12:17] <markus__> thanks @jimbunbtu and @dreamcat4
[12:18] <JimBunbtu> yw markus__  and remember, patience. The #aws channel may take a while to reply, but there should be a reply eventually
[12:18] <UBURoi> So where/who could i ask for advice ?
[12:18] <JimBunbtu> !ask | UBURoi
[12:19] <dreamcat4> i think the channel you need markus__ is probably #android-dev it has about 300 users in it
[12:20] <markus__> ok
[12:20] <UBURoi> Umm yes legit; so im trying to solve this apparently quite common problem that is headphone arent working; i tried some code but resulted in catastrophic failure that made me reinstall ubu 16.04
[12:23] <JimBunbtu> UBURoi, I will probably not be able to help directly, but I can ask the questions for others... Make and model of computer or sound card,... are you using ALSA or Pulseaudio? Is it only that the headphones don't work or no audio at all? Does the computer think it's working fine but you don't hear the audio or does your sound settings show audio is disabled?
[12:24] <UBURoi> I actually checked pulse audio and all seems fine
[12:24] <JimBunbtu> UBURoi, There is an "official" procedure that may prove useful - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[12:25] <UBURoi> Thanks, lets check this
[12:26] <Tecan> init=/bin/sh worked
[12:26] <Tecan> in the grub options
[12:27] <UBURoi> I learned to avoid code things i do not understand
[12:28] <oerheks> Tecan, why asking and ignoring the good answer systemctl set-default multi-user.target?
[12:28] <akik> Tecan: what happened with systemd.unit=multi-user.target ?
[12:33] <UBURoi> Alsamixer detect headphones
[12:34] <UBURoi> but no sound in them
[12:34] <Borw3> UBURoi: Maybe earphones is dead?
[12:35] <Borw3> UBURoi: Or earphones slot is dead?
[12:35] <UBURoi> the helmet is as good as new
[12:36] <UBURoi> however the slot? I assume that if it does detect the jack it's working
[12:45] <Tecan> not sure if my last message was sent
 did not work as expected seems i need to delete vesa_drv.so
 tried video=LCD1 and nomodeset
[12:49] <Tecan> how would i finish booting after i set init=/bin/sh in grub ?
[12:49] <Tecan> systemctl
[12:50] <oerheks> no idea, you ignored the good answer
[12:53] <Tecan> systemctl says failed to connect to bus.
[12:56] <EriC^^> Tecan: i'm not sure you can, you'd have to start systemd or something
[12:56] <EriC^^> Tecan: just reboot?
[12:57] <Tecan> its a live image
[12:57] <EriC^^> Tecan: what are you trying to do?
[12:57] <Tecan> just delete vesa_drv.so and boot
[12:58] <EriC^^> delete from your main os install?
[12:58] <Tecan> from the live image image
[12:58] <Tecan> i can do it manually everytime
[12:59] <jmartelatpapirux> I have a problem with a USB headset. I experienced jittering when using it from performous (rhythm game) and OBS(record-stream frontend) at the same time. So I killed pulseaudio and let it respawn, then unplugged and plugged back the USB headset. Now its microphone gives pure, unbiased silence to anything I can think of using to record audio. I think both OBS and performous were using alsa pulse plugin.
[13:00] <EriC^^> Tecan: why don't you blacklist the module from grub?
[13:00] <EriC^^> modprobe.blacklist=vesa_drv
[13:05] <Tecan> hmmm , tried it not sure if it worked though. im going to have to try installing to usb rather than live
[13:06] <EriC^^> sounds good
[13:06] <Tecan> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=”text”   might work too i seem to be able to see that on the drive itself
[13:07] <Tecan> for the live image
[13:07] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version is it?
[13:08] <Tecan> 17.10
[13:08] <Tecan> trying to get it working with a teclast x80
[13:09] <EriC^^> did you try systemd.unit=multi-user.target ?
[13:10] <Tecan> did yes
[13:11] <akik> Tecan: and?
[13:12] <UBURoi> I checked with pavucotrol
[13:12] <Tecan> trying it again, but it came up blank screen last time.
[13:12] <Tecan> i need a hdmi mini port to see
[13:12] <UBURoi> it said that they recognize the headseat (plugged in) and i can even see the volume moving but nothing throught the helmet
[13:12] <Tecan> waiting for it in the mail
[13:17] <akik> Tecan: what kind of display are you using now?
[13:18] <Tecan> the 8" screen on the teclast x80
[13:19] <Tecan> tried systemd.unit=multi-user-target and video=LCD1 at the same time too and nogo
[13:19] <frad> I used flowblade to trim a video, but I cannot export it to its original mkv format
[13:19] <frad> how do I export it to mkv?
[13:20] <Tecan> luckily i have a usb2 displaylink adapter
[13:20] <Tecan> lets see if that works
[13:20] <baba_> I need to activate a driver quirk that has no corresponding letter or flag.....how is that done?
[13:26] <ScioMin> Hi. I'm using Lubuntu 16.04 and would like to know how can I change background image after disabled desktop manager?
[13:27] <ScioMin> It still shows my old desktop background but when I launch desktop settings it quits with message: "No dekstop manager"
[13:28] <oerheks> ScioMin, isn't that what the DM is for?
[13:28] <ScioMin> oerheks, i don't want a desktop manager. just a background image.
[13:28] <ScioMin> oerheks, and despite not having a DM it still shows a background image.
[13:29] <ScioMin> i'll investigate the proccess using xprop and clicking the background
[13:31] <Coon_> I just installed Ubuntu 16.4.3 and when I open anything I can move my mouse around but can't close any open windows it's like it's froze
[13:33] <DiecastMessiah> ScioMin: there is a command but i think it using lightDM but you can change the config file here i believe .conf files in '~/.config/pcmanfm/LXDE/.'
[13:35] <ScioMin> DiecastMessiah, AWESOME!!! cat ~/.config/pcmanfm/lubuntu/desktop-items-0.conf found a line with "wallpaper=/media/dev/Data/gdrive/pics/wallpapers/1e88ac36019933.570c91b0dc2b5.jpg"
[13:36] <ScioMin> DiecastMessiah, ty sir
[13:36] <oerheks> maybe this page is any help > /etc/xdg/pcmanfm/lubuntu/pcmanfm.conf --- https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/34977192/
[13:36] <DiecastMessiah> ScioMin: no problem
[13:36] <oerheks> oh, that should work too, per user
[13:36] <ScioMin> oerheks, it does too. thankyou
[13:38] <Coon_> I open something I can't close it I can't move open window around and I can't open anything else
[13:39] <urko> urko
[13:49] <tomreyn> Coon_: what's your hardware (anything special or old)?
[13:50] <tomreyn> Coon_: did the installation succeed without errors?
[13:57] <noethics> https://pastebin.com/raw/d0YWGhCY
[13:58] <tomreyn> ^spam, ignore
[14:03] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I run alias commands in a bash script?
[14:06] <DiecastMessiah> mojtaba: this may help https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1496/why-doesnt-my-bash-script-recognize-aliases
[14:06] <mojtaba> DiecastMessiah: Thanks. I will check.
[14:06] <oerheks> sourcing the script:  source script.sh https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15968053/using-alias-in-shell-script
[14:06] <geirha> aliases are disabled in scripts. Use functions instead
[14:06] <CyberZaZa> !
[14:09] <geirha> For almost every purpose, aliases are superseded by shell functions.
[14:15] <mojtaba> geirha: Can you send a link as an example?
[14:18] <geirha> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/CompoundCommands#Functions
[14:30] <oerheks> geirha, sourcing the script runs the code in a subshell, or is this wrong?
[14:30] <geirha> no, the point of sourcing is to run it in the same shell
[14:31] <Nachos11> geirha: never understood all of the alias-hate.
[14:32] <Nachos11> why not put aliases in shell script?
[14:33] <geirha> they're mainly meant for interactive use. Functions are superior in that they act like regular commands, and take arguments
[15:02] <meandrain> hi, any idea how to disable utf8 in console (ubuntu 16.04) ?
[15:04] <Katronix> hi all, I just installed 16.04LTS on a low powered machine. To help it I also installed LXDE, on top of Unity. At my login screen I do not get the Window Manager option icon to choose a window manager, any suggestions on what I can do?
[15:04] <blackflow> meandrain: change locale? dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:06] <meandrain> blackflow: thanx
[15:08] <Katronix> any ideas?
[15:10] <DiecastMessiah> Katronix just give it another bit I am sure someone will help in a bit... I looking into also because i plan on installing LXDE on top of unity so i really would like to know myself
[15:10] <blackflow> Katronix: iirc you had to click that link to change username, and in the resulting form there shuold be the session selection cog
[15:11] <blackflow> "Not listed?"  that
[15:12] <Katronix> blackflow, okay I thought there used to be an icon next to my name where I could choose it from
[15:12] <Katronix> but will look for it next time I log in :) thanks for the help
[15:12] <blackflow> the cog is left of the "sign in" button, but it's not there always, you have to reset the form by clicking "Not listed". thats what I recall that is. Didn't spend much time looking for alternative solution
[15:18] <Euph0ria> Still somewhat new to Linux/ubuntu.  Question about file-systems.  Does EXT4 or a similar fs support on the fly file compression?  I don't mean like btrfs, xfs, zfs or other more elaborate file systems on linux.
[15:24] <DoctorPainless_N> Hi all, I need some help. My problem is that I'm new to IRC and used Koversation and registered my nickname (DoctorPainless) and also verified it with the mail I became. Now I've switched to HexChat and I want to use that same nickname as before but as soon as I enter freenode it says nickname allready in use and it uses my second choice (this name). How do I get my old nick back ?
[15:24] <Euph0ria> DoctorPainless_N: Try #hexchat
[15:24] <Jerusalem> ghost ur nickname
[15:25] <Euph0ria> DoctorPainless_N: and try #freenode
[15:25] <Euph0ria> not on topic for Ubuntu.
[15:26] <DoctorPainless_N> .
[15:26] <DiecastMessiah> DoctorPainless_N: you need to identif yourself.. one sec looking for the command
[15:27] <Jerusalem> /msg NickServ ghost DoctorPainless PasswordHERE
[15:27] <DiecastMessiah> msg nickserv identify <yourpassword> with a slash
[15:27] <KaiForce> I'm building a procedure for upgrading a server from the 14 LTS version to 16, and I'm not sure what to do with phpmyadmin.  I'm getting prompted for the remote server running mysql, but it should be this server.  Anyone know how to properly upgrade phpmyadmin?
[15:28] <Euph0ria> Yes, you guys spend 30 mins explaining nickserv here, and a legit question gets ignored.  lol
[15:28] <Jerusalem> lol
[15:29] <DoctorPainless_N> So, it says I've been ghosted but I'm still DoctorPainless_N instead of DoctorPainless
[15:30] <blackflow> DoctorPainless_N: change your /nick then?
[15:30] <blackflow> it won't change by itself
[15:31] <Euph0ria> lmfao
[15:31] <DoctorPainless_N> what do I need to do ?
[15:31] <Euph0ria> Keep going folks.  I'm gonna go make popcorn.
[15:31] <blackflow>  /nick DoctorPainless
[15:31] <Jerusalem> /nick DoctorPainless
[15:31] <Jerusalem> LOL
[15:31] <Jerusalem> Euph0ria please nescafee too :P
[15:32] <DiecastMessiah> also there should be an area to set in your password in hexchat so you will not need to identify everytime but really all this stuff is easy to google search for
[15:34] <Jerusalem> DoctorPainless Violaaaa welcome back :P
[15:34] <Nachos11> DiecastMessiah: there is...
[15:34] <KaiForce> Euph0ria: what was the legit question?  If it was mine, that's OK, I'm just running through a test upgrade, I probably won't touch prod for a couple of weeks.
[15:34] <DoctorPainless> Whooot !!!
[15:34] <DoctorPainless> :-) :-)
[15:34] <DoctorPainless> Thx guys
[15:35] <KaiForce> no problem, enjoy Ubuntu
[15:35] <DoctorPainless> I will
[15:35] <oerheks> DiecastMessiah, there is, edit connection, etc
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> oerheks i was telling doctor about it I don;t help lol
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> don;t need help^
[15:36] <oerheks> oh oke, read it wrong then
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> np
[15:36] <DoctorPainless> I hope I have to never use Windows again for personal usage
[15:38] <oerheks> lets stick to ubuntu support please, there is #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat, no need for flamewars
[15:42] <sukhi> hi
[15:46] <DoctorPainless> ZZZ
[15:46] <KaiForce> would it be ok to blow past this phpmyadmin section ("ignore" the error) and just re-install it after the upgrade?
[15:49] <oerheks> KaiForce, check the releasenotes about php7 and mysql ( Password behavior when the MySQL root password is empty has changed)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[15:49] <frag00n> hello every1
[15:51] <frag00n> my laptop could turn off any second now
[15:53] <CUR10SITY> Trying out Mate on RASPI and so far its awesome
[15:54] <CUR10SITY> Besides Mozilla FireFox crashing constantly
[15:54] <frag00n> lol
[15:54] <DiecastMessiah> frag00n: having a problem?? please give details if need be
[15:54] <frag00n> meanwhile im struggling to find out why my thinkpad keeps shutting down
[15:54] <KaiForce> oerheks: ok, thanks, I'm pretty sure root password is not blank but I'll take a look
[15:54] <frag00n> i do, but hardware related
[15:55] <tomreyn> there's ##hardware if you're looking for suggestions.
[15:56] <oerheks> frag00n, seen that before, plugged in poweradapter, forgot to plug in wall socket
[15:56] <frag00n> well my tpad works on ac with and without battery
[15:56] <frag00n> but when it is just on the battery it turns off randomly
[15:56] <frag00n> just cuts off
[15:58] <frag00n> just turned off
[15:58] <frag00n> again
[15:58] <frag00n> this kinda beats the purpose of having a laptop
[15:59] <Nachos11> I love ubuntu.  Everything's so much easier.
[16:00] <frag00n> gonna go now guys, dont want to torture this laptop
[16:00] <Nachos11> frag00n: which thinkpad?
[16:00] <frag00n> i'll try to figure out whats wrong
[16:00] <frag00n> x230
[16:00] <DoctorPainless> Hi, I've switched to Linux several times but I always somehow went back to Window$$$$ :-( This time I want to make it work, One of the issues I have in the past is the feeling of missing control of stuff. That is, sometimes I try things out to make something work and I'm installing a lot of programms and stuff and then the thing doesn't work (for instance hardware) but there seems to be a lot of software installed that I then
[16:00] <DoctorPainless> won't be needing...... this gives me an unpleasant feeling of not being in control. Can anyone suggest me on this ?
[16:00] <Nachos11> could it be thermal?
[16:01] <frag00n> i bought it with freshly put thermal paste a few weeks ago
[16:01] <frag00n> but dunno, could be
[16:01] <DiecastMessiah> frag00n what ubuntu you using it maybe a problem with idle i had odd problem like that years ago
[16:01] <Nachos11> try watching your temps.
[16:01] <Nachos11> I think the package is lm-sensors.
[16:01] <frag00n> 16.04, but it turns off on pretty much all distros i tried
[16:01] <frag00n> this just started today
[16:02] <frag00n> when it was in my lap
[16:03] <tomreyn> DoctorPainless: can you provide a specific example? maybe just come here and ask when you hit one next time.
[16:05] <frag00n> also i am looking at my temps
[16:05] <frag00n> they seem p normal
[16:06] <frag00n> still hasnt turned off
[16:06] <frag00n> miracle
[16:06] <tomreyn> DoctorPainless: in general, you actually get to have a lot more control when using open source software. but i admit that's only so once you learnt how to modify it. graphical user interfaces can be lacking on some graphical desktops and on some applications so sometimes you may need to resort to workin on a terminal and editing configuration files. personally i like it this way.
[16:06] <DoctorPainless> tomreyn: for example I have a RPI and a USB WIFI that I wanted to use. I visited several websites with tips to install stuff / change configurations but in the end it didn't work out
[16:06] <KaiForce> frag00n: reseat RAM or run memtest
[16:07] <frag00n> alright, will do
[16:07] <DoctorPainless> tomreyn: I try to use the terminal as much as i can
[16:08] <tomreyn> DoctorPainless: maybe try ubuntu on an amd64 architecture first of all. other architectures and ports aren't always as easy to use.
[16:09] <DoctorPainless> tomreyn: i will take a look at the history file of my RPI and give you the example. Can't do it right now, I'll come back for that
[16:19] <scotland> ko
[16:23] <scotland> north korea is dangerous
[16:25] <oerheks> !ot | scotland
[16:28] <server_> yo
[16:51] <juliotrb> test
[16:52] <juliotrb> hello guys, can someone give me a hand with bash scripting?
[16:52] <DiecastMessiah> *test command working
[16:53] <eukaryote> hi!
[16:54] <DiecastMessiah> Juliotrb best to ask the question if stuck .. but if it purly about learning bash I would try on a different channel like #linux
[16:55] <DoctorPainless> How do I install a specific printer under Ubuntu ? (and is there a way to do this command line ?)
[16:55] <juliotrb> @DiecastMessiah yes i do that
[16:55] <juliotrb> but i cna't write on dthat channel
[16:56] <DiecastMessiah> oh ok.. and sorry i meant before.. it best to just ask the question, than to ask if you can ask
[16:56] <akik> juliotrb: you probably need to register and identify with your nick
[16:57] <akik> juliotrb: in the mean time, what's your problem with bash?
[16:57] <KaiForce> I wonder if my phpadmin upgrade problem is because do-release-upgrade runs phpmyadmin upgrade first, then mysql?
[16:57] <juliotrb> akik, well, i have this sentence --- db2 list database directory | grep "Database alias" | awk {'print $4'}  ---
[16:58] <akik> juliotrb: you should add "grep -v grep" so that the process list doesn't list grep itself
[16:59] <juliotrb> it give me 4 results
[16:59] <juliotrb> and i want to assign that results to a variable
[17:00] <juliotrb> databases =db2 list database directory | grep "Database alias" | awk {'print $4'}
[17:00] <akik> juliotrb: maybe something like: for i in `db2 list ...`; do command1 etc.; done
[17:01] <akik> juliotrb: but yea maybe this is better for #bash and not here
[17:01] <KaiForce> does anyone know why interface names changed in 16.04.3 (i.e. eth0 => ens160 or similar?)
[17:01] <juliotrb> yep =P
[17:01] <akik> KaiForce: it's because of systemd's predictable network interface naming
[17:01] <juliotrb> well but thanks akik
[17:01] <akik> KaiForce: you can get the old naming back with kernel parameter net.ifnames=0
[17:03] <KaiForce> akik:  thanks, I was curious.  I use another distro for firewalling and I actually script the interface names based on MAC address, but I wonder how many non-tech people have broken networking after an upgrade
[17:03] <akik> the only constant thing is change
[17:04] <KaiForce> and math
[17:07] <Loshki> and const declarations
[17:13] <alan_> hai
[17:15] <airking> Hello! I need to insert a line into a file.  I know the content of the preceeding line and the line number, how could I do this?
[17:17] <DiecastMessiah> airking not 100& sure but you may need to read up on cat command
[17:17] <newuseris> My DPMS is not working despite having file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf  --> containing https://gist.github.com/anonymous/061f49cf50d4fee97aeb6481c5a01e0a
[17:17] <DiecastMessiah> if you want to be able to do from termial i think
[17:17] <airking> DiecastMessiah: I was looking at sed, and have a command written, but it doesn't work
[17:18] <Guest87492> kk
[17:18] <airking> DiecastMessiah: sed 's/0 => 'localhost',/0 => 'localhost',\n1 => 'new.url.thing',/' nextcloud/config/config.php
[17:18] <airking> Doesn't seem to work
[17:19] <ubuntu-mate> whats up
[17:20] <DiecastMessiah> airking sorry that over my head will have to wait for another to answer
[17:20] <sh17w0|f> airking this seems like the obvious answer but you cant pull the file up with vim and edit?
[17:21] <airking> sh17w0|f: this is part of a script I'm writing to reset this piece of software i'm working with back to an initial install
[17:21] <airking> sh17w0|f: I'm trying to avoid opening the file and editing it every time
[17:21] <sh17w0|f> airking ah ok
[17:25] <airking> sh17w0|f: Got it with an awk query
[17:28] <Darkinha> Hallo.
[17:28] <Darkinha> What about installing dual boot with minimal instalation?
[17:28] <Darkinha> Any tips? Is it straightfoward?
[17:30] <strive> Darkinha: Dualbooing with Windows?
[17:30] <Darkinha> Oh, yeah, ya!
[17:30] <Darkinha> I have windows 7 installed.
[17:30] <strive> Darkinha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:30] <Darkinha> I pretty much need to install through the minimal instalation.
[17:30] <Darkinha> I wanted to know if there is a option down there, that make things easier.
[17:31] <strive> Darkinha: Minimal installation should still provide a straight-forward GUI.
[17:31] <Darkinha> With the option of dualboot?
[17:31] <Darkinha> I remember this option on the main .iso.
[17:31] <Darkinha> Install aside windows.
[17:31] <Darkinha> Option.
[17:32] <Darkinha> Alongside.
[17:32] <strive> I haven't installed Ubuntu in a long time, but it should have a "Install alongside Windows" option.
[17:32] <Darkinha> Oh, nice.
[17:32] <Darkinha> Even in the minimal, that is good to know.
[17:32] <strive> There's only one way to find out...
[17:32] <Darkinha> Yeah, I want to try it.
[17:33] <Darkinha> I am setting up the usb.
[17:33] <Darkinha> Soon, I will say here if there is this option too in the minimal.
[17:33] <strive> I use to use minimal install so that I have to option on what to install.
[17:33] <strive> what packages to install, rather.
[17:34] <sh17w0|f> airking nice. trying to figure out why sed didnt work
[17:35] <Boarders_> Hi, I want to be able to test builds on a fresh linux environment and am just setting up virtual box to do that from my mac
[17:35] <Boarders_> is that the correct thing to be doing or do people here have other recommendations?
[17:35] <kaleidoscope> hi everyone, need some help understanding ubuntu server. for some reason, my ubuntu server automagically assigns itself 192.168.1.12 on my network, without any static IP or static DHCP do it? how does this work? and can i remove it?
[17:35] <akik> Boarders_: have you checked out vagrant?
[17:36] <akik> Boarders_: another choice could be lxd
[17:37] <Boarders_> cool, i'll give them a look
[17:38] <u0_a123> Hello :)
[17:38] <treadhead> u0_a123, hello
[17:39] <u0_a123> @treahead are you using desktop to chat here?
[17:39] <treadhead> u0_a123, yes why?
[17:40] <treadhead> hexchat on mate-desktop
[17:40] <u0_a123> cause i'm using weechat in termux app on android :)
[17:41] <Sven_vB_> udisksd seems to spike CPU usage every few seconds. is there an easy way to watch what it's doing?
[17:42] <flux242> is it normal that there's no battery level info shown by 'upower -d' for a bt headset? BT mouse info battery level info is shown but not for the headset. Or am I missing some packages?
[17:42] <treadhead> u0_a123, ive never used android for irc! ive heard of other people doing it but it always seems a bit hardcore too me
[17:43] <Sven_vB> flux242, yeah my BT headphones also have no power level reporting. I was quite disappointed since I bought a famous brand so I expected that.
[17:44] <u0_a123> @treadhead yeah,but its easier than you think
[17:44] <flux242> Sven_vB: do some have such reporting?
[17:45] <Sven_vB> flux242, dunno.
[17:45] <flux242> Sven_vB: have you tried it with android?
[17:45] <Sven_vB> flux242, nope
[17:46] <kaleidoscope> while i'm glad i can still ssh into ubuntu-server without finding the same address, i want a bit more control on what ip address every device gets, and i want to do this on the router that handles this function, not ubuntu. i'm still confused on how normal everything despite this action. any ideas.?
[17:47] <T4P4N> @bhujay are you indian bro?
[17:48] <akik> kaleidoscope: if your router hands out the ip addresses, it can also keep list of the used mac addresses and always give out the same ip for each device
[17:49] <bhujay> y
[17:49] <DiecastMessiah> kaleidoscope that should be on your normal settings on the router.. most have it set default to set ip everything it connects.. but there is a way to set the ip
[17:49] <treadhead> akik, my router does that - very handy
[17:52] <kaleidoscope> akik + DiecastMessiah: I agree with both of you, but see, I changed firmwares sometimes (AdvancedTomato <-> DD-WRT) without recovering the settings and the router still seems to remember to assign the 'correct' ip address for my server.
[17:53] <Sven_vB> well, anyone who has the same problem: sudo systemctl mask udisks2.service && sudo systemctl stop udisks2.service; remember to re-enable it later when you can afford the CPU load.
[17:53] <Tapan> yo
[17:54] <Tapan> anybody here?
[17:54] <NEOX404> HI
[17:54] <Tapan> thats unfair
[17:54] <NEOX404> why?
[17:55] <Tapan> because thats my name
[17:55] <Tapan> (｡ŏ_ŏ)
[17:55] <Tapan> Σ(O_O；)
[17:55] <NEOX404> and you are using my name!
[17:55] <Tapan> cant we use onion i r c in termux?
[17:56] <Tapan> exut
[17:56] <Tapan> exit
[17:56] <NEOX404> i don't know ! but try googling
[17:56] <oerheks> uhh...
[17:56] <oerheks> !google
[17:57] <dsaravanan> unity and ubuntu-desktop is deinstalled after recent update in ubuntu 16.04
[17:57] <dsaravanan> how to fix it
[17:57] <EriC^^> dsaravanan: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <oerheks> update removes desktop, that is new to me
[17:58] <oerheks> upgrade to 17.10 it would remove unity
[18:00] <dsaravanan> i meant the compiz update on 02/15/2018 broke unity.
[18:01] <urbi> hiű
[18:01] <urbi> hy
[18:02] <dsaravanan> should I wait for the official ubuntu fix?
[18:03] <kaleidoscope> ah, whatever, i think i'll go setup up static DHCP anyways
[18:04] <kaleidoscope> thanks for the advice guys :)
[18:04] <oerheks> dsaravanan, ah, known issue, reinstall ubuntu-desktop https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006621/2-15-18-compiz-update-broke-unity
[18:04] <oerheks> make sure xenial-proposed is disabled
[18:07] <tapanik> i have ubuntu and 16gig ram, now only chrome and 2 tabs open. System takes 5 gig ram .
[18:08] <tapanik> even 16gig ram, ubuntu took all
[18:08] <tapanik> booted and helps
[18:09] <oerheks> i have noted latest google-chrome is buggy, 10 zombies overnight.
[18:09] <oerheks> could be a plugin, ghostery or others
[18:10] <Sven_vB> tapanik, RAM use shouldn't be a problem unless there's a shortage.
[18:10] <oerheks> open terminal: top # and see if there are zombies
[18:10] <Sven_vB> tapanik, as long as new allocation requests can be served, why should your OS even bother cleaning up?
[18:11] <tapanik> i dont mind, bad memories from windows times
[18:11] <tapanik> 0 zombies
[18:14] <Sven_vB> tapanik, afaik windows and linux have different concepts of "used". you'll probably need to subtract the "buffers/cache" part. run "free -m" and check the "-/+ buffers/cache" line.
[18:14] <Sven_vB> my ubuntu currently has more then 1 GB of them and will probably evict some of them as soon as something else needs more RAM than is free.
[18:15] <tapanik> jep
[18:15] <tapanik> (yes)
[18:21] <jumpboy82323> hi guys
[18:21] <zamba> logrotate doesn't rotate the syslog properly
[18:21] <zamba> instead i have a logfile with a dateext that's still being written to
[18:21] <zamba> and that's huge
[18:22] <jumpboy82323> im not able to install ubuntu in this pc: it is jumper ezbook 3 pro, now i m in live mode
[18:22] <jumpboy82323> lubuntu 17.10 version(live mode)
[18:23] <Sven_vB> zamba, try restarting the rsyslog service
[18:23] <akik> !details | jumpboy82323
[18:23] <jumpboy82323> akik: it`s chinese notebook, 6 gb ram 2.10 cpu
[18:24] <jumpboy82323> jumper ezbook 3 pro
[18:24] <akik> jumpboy82323: i meant that "not able to install" doesn't really tell anything to anybody
[18:24] <DiecastMessiah> what errors if any or steps that you took
[18:25] <jumpboy82323> akik i m in live mode, when i do setup and i install i, at rebbot, doesnt appear the grub but again winzoz 10
[18:25] <akik> jumpboy82323: i had that same with a acer laptop. had to go into the uefi screens and add grubx64.efi to the allowed boot files
[18:26] <jumpboy82323> can u tell me the process to do this? thanks
[18:27] <jumpboy82323> now i`m in live mode
[18:28] <Hulio> in ubuntu is there a way to make it like the old menu on the top?
[18:28] <Hulio> i hate the left side menu
[18:28] <Hulio> very annoying
[18:28] <yeats> Hulio: which release?
[18:28] <Hulio> the latest
[18:28] <Hulio> 17
[18:28] <EriC^^> Hulio: try ubuntu mate
[18:28] <Hulio> oh where can i get that?
[18:28] <Hulio> let me see
[18:29] <jumpboy82323> it`s already installed but it doesn t work akik
[18:29] <EriC^^> jumpboy82323: try to set the administrator password in the bios, then look for a 'trust' option
[18:29] <yeats> Hulio: yeah, regular desktop ubuntu has moved to GNOME - MATE, cinnamon, lxde (lubuntu), kde (kubuntu) or xfce (xubuntu) might be worth experimenting with
[18:30] <Hulio> why the ubuntu mate look so green
[18:30] <oerheks> https://techtablets.com/forum/topic/how-to-install-antergos-linux-on-the-ezbook-3-pro-v4/page/3/#post-76031 short manual to install linux on the EZ book 3
[18:30] <yeats> Hulio: colors are customizable
[18:30] <Hulio> oh
[18:30] <oerheks> lots of issues with the trackpad, i read
[18:31] <DiecastMessiah> yeah mate is like the older gnome 2
[18:31] <DiecastMessiah> with the bars at the top and buttom
[18:33] <Zythyr> Need help with systemd configuration to start a service. I have an encrypted /home parittion. I do NOT use a keyfile to automatically unlock the partition. When I boot into the system, I manually login in remotely using SSH and use the command "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 data" and I get prompted for a password to unlock the partition. Once the partition is unlocked, the /home is
[18:33] <Zythyr> automatically mounted. The issue I am having no is that I have a service that needs to start automatically. The .sh to start the service is located in /home/myusername/myservice.sh. In the service configuration I put ConditionPathExists=/home/myusername Requires=home.mount Aftab=home.mount. However, my service is fails to start after I unlock the partition. It sa ys failed because of depedenceny.
[18:33] <Zythyr> My manually get the service to start by doing "sudo systemctl start myservice", I get prompted for the encrypted disk partition's passphrase. Why does it ask for the passphrase if the partition is already unlocked?
[18:39] <EriC^^> Zythyr: is Aftab a typo or something?
[18:40] <Zythyr> EriC^^ Sorry I ment to type "After=home.mount". Yes thats a typo in this post, but NOT in my actual service file
[18:42] <anonny> hello!
[18:44] <james_> test
[18:45] <hay207> Hi, i have a user access problem with a game i installed, i can run the game via root only.
[18:45] <Guest11703> Laptop Test...
[18:45] <Guest11703> Done!!!
[18:45] <Guest11703> Exiting...
[18:46] <EriC^^> hay207: how did you install the game?
[18:47] <hay207> via terminal using a script
[18:47] <EriC^^> what happens when you try to run it as your user?
[18:47] <hay207> nothing
[18:48] <EriC^^> what file are you trying to run?
[18:48] <EriC^^> can you pastebin it?
[18:48] <Guest72128> I had a problem with Ubuntu as a Virtual machine.  Do you know how to fix it?  Thank you!!
[18:48] <sweb> is netplan safe for changing invalid network over ssh ?
[18:48] <hay207> it's a game
[18:48] <sweb> using --debug on generation ?
[18:49] <EriC^^> hay207: what's the name of the file?
[18:49] <hay207> nwn
[18:49] <hay207> for neverwinternights game
[18:49] <EriC^^> hay207: what does 'file nwn' give you?
[18:50] <hay207> nwn: POSIX shell script, ASCII text executable
[18:51] <EriC^^> hay207: how big is it? try 'ls -lh nwn'
[18:51] <adminewb> not a proper support question, but I'll ask here unless someone directs me elsewhere: what happened to scheduled point release 16.04.4? no mention in forums; have all dev resources been monopolized by 18.04?
[18:51] <hay207> -rwxr-xr-x 1 hay207 hay207 310 Jul  7  2016 nwn
[18:52] <hay207> hay207 is the user
[18:52] <EriC^^> hay207: ok, try 'cat nwn | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:53] <ducasse> adminewb: expected 1st of march aiui
[18:53] <hay207> http://termbin.com/axdz
[18:53] <adminewb> thanks ducasse
[18:54] <jdonald> Hi, I'm hoping to find someone here who can update the status of this ticket: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1711337 (Firefox 57~59 on armhf).
[18:55] <EriC^^> hay207: maybe it just needs root by default or something?
[18:55] <jdonald> Not necessarily looking for swift action on fixing the bug, but would like to have the ticket status changed back to confirmed, not "fix released".
[18:56] <EriC^^> hay207: try 'fakeroot' then run the program
[18:56] <hay207> yes it uses fakeroot as a dependency
[18:56] <hay207> how to use fakeroot?
[18:57] <EriC^^> just run 'fakeroot'
[18:58] <zamba> Sven_vB: yes, that solves it, but i can't do this every day
[18:58] <zamba> Sven_vB: logrotate.d/rsyslog has the following entry:
[18:58] <zamba>         postrotate
[18:58] <zamba>                 reload rsyslog >/dev/null 2>&1 || true
[18:58] <zamba>         endscript
[18:59] <hay207> got an error
[18:59] <hay207> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
[19:00] <Sven_vB> zamba, you could redirect the output to a log file instead of /dev/null, maybe it will give more hints.
[19:03] <EriC^^> hay207: anything in the documentation about how to start it?
[19:03] <jdonald> hay207: are you attempting to use a 32-bit executable with a 64-bit fakeroot?
[19:04] <hay207> i guess so jdonald
[19:04] <hay207> guide i followed 's here https://www.gog.com/forum/neverwinter_nights_series/guidelinux_install_neverwinter_nights_on_any_linux_distribution
[19:04] <hay207> leading to https://wiki.dotslashplay.it/en/games/neverwinter-nights
[19:05] <hay207> the game builds a i386 bin only with the script
[19:06] <hay207> the script builds a i386 bin * only
[19:07] <hay207> i got game from gog site
[19:10] <Euph0ria> Hi all.  Is there a way to convert my filesystem (root, home, etc) to a filesystem that supports compression, without having to do an entire re-install?
[19:11] <max3> does anyone know how to get two finger gestures working with libinput?
[19:11] <max3> e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll
[19:12] <EriC^^> hay207: did you use the dpkg -i command during installation?
[19:13] <hay207> i ran it from kde-deb
[19:13] <hay207> didnot use terminal
[19:14] <EriC^^> hay207: what does 'which nwn' give?
[19:16] <hay207> nothing
[19:16] <hay207> how i exit fakeroot?
[19:16] <EriC^^> type exit
[19:17] <Euph0ria> egg-sit.
[19:18] <hay207> still nothing after exiting fakeroot
[19:18] <EriC^^> hay207: where are you running nwn from?
[19:18] <hay207> from /usr/local/share/games
[19:20] <max3> e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll
[19:21] <max3> whoops
[19:21] <max3> does anyone know how to get two finger gestures working with libinput? e.g. two finger forward and reverse on browsers? all i get is partial scroll
[19:22] <hay207> I tried giving permissions to my user, but still won't run except as root
[19:22] <EriC^^> hay207: maybe install a 32bit fakeroot version in /usr/local
[19:24] <Alexander-47u> hi guys
[19:24] <Alexander-47u> I boot into black screen after grub
[19:24] <Alexander-47u> but I can hear sounds, like volume up down, escape, etc
[19:24] <Alexander-47u> I dual boot with windows, maybe it has something to do with that, I dont know
[19:24] <Alexander-47u> anyone know what it might possibly be?
[19:25] <hay207> apt-get install fakeroot:i386 ?
[19:25] <Alexander-47u> im into emergency mode now.
[19:25] <Alexander-47u> using ubuntu mate 16.04
[19:26] <EriC^^> hay207: nevermind, seems like a bad idea
[19:27] <hay207> i think it's just a permissions problem.
[19:27] <hay207> but i'm doing something wrong
[19:27] <EriC^^> hay207: try 'fakeroot i386 bash'
[19:27] <EriC^^> then run the program
[19:29] <hay207> same error
[19:29] <hay207> then nothing, i force command to stop
[19:30] <Alexander-47u> anyone?
[19:31] <Loeb> Is there a simple way to update from 15.04 to 16.04 LTS? The update release tool guy does not seem happy with me.
[19:32] <oerheks> Loeb, not sure there is a direct upgrade, see the !eolupgrade factoid
[19:32] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[19:32] <Bashing-om> Alexander-47u: Graphic's driver ? What results; reboot and at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F2. Can you log into the system here ?
[19:33] <Alexander-47u> Bashing-om, no, it does not respond to CTRL+ALT+F2 or other F keys
[19:33] <Alexander-47u> ive reinstalled xorg-server
[19:33] <Alexander-47u> but that did not help
[19:34] <Alexander-47u> im in emergency mode now with terrible resolution
[19:34] <hay207> when i run game from /home/user/.local/share/games , it ran only from root
[19:35] <Alexander-47u> any tips?
[19:37] <Bashing-om> Alexander-47u: Sorry. as you can not activate a console interface, above my skill set .
[19:37] <Alexander-47u> Bashing-om, thanks anyway
[19:37] <Alexander-47u> im going to try to reboot with propietary drivers, brb
[19:39] <hay207> I guess i will go now
[19:39] <Loeb> oerheks, yeah do-release-upgrade says vivid isn't supported
[19:39] <hay207> Thanks for trying to help eric
[19:41] <Loeb> I don't want to do a fresh install mainly because I've got a single ancient package around that I'd like to keep. I coooooould grab the .deb from this install and try it on 16.04?
[19:42] <oerheks> Loeb, sure you could try, without proper info we cannot tell it will work
[19:46] <Loeb> oerheks, I don't think I have any other options to get off of 15.04
[19:47] <Loeb> other than writing an ISO and doing a new install
[19:49] <oerheks> Loeb, indeed, long time since that 15.04 went EOL
[19:54] <Alexander-47u> still no luck
[20:00] <_CM_> wow still using 15.04?
[20:16] <zumba_addict> Good afternoon. I created /etc/init.d/nginx and it only starts once I passed the login screen
[20:17] <zumba_addict> wait, I think I'm wrong. My ip changed. REbooting again
[20:19] <zumba_addict> Yup, I was wrong :) it's working now
[20:21] <astralemp> https://askubuntu.com/a/410028 <-- I'm trying to configure iptables to filter by mac address, but the instructions here don't seem to be working
[20:22] <astralemp> i.e., I added a rule for dropping connections to a specific port from my mac address, but I can still access the port
[20:22] <astralemp> and i verified that i was using the correct mac address by looking at the ufw logs, since they were already blocking me from other ports based on ip address
[20:23] <TJ-> astralemp: for ethernet MAC level filtering you need to use ebtables, not iptables
[20:25] <astralemp> okay, I should have clarified. I want to filter requests from the internet by mac address.
[20:25] <astralemp> not from the LAN
[20:27] <TJ-> astralemp: MAC's only travel between 2 connected link layer points,
[20:30] <astralemp> which points?
[20:30] <astralemp> and does that mean what I'm trying to do is impossible?
[20:32] <TJ-> astralemp: The MAC addresses (source,destination) of a packet change at each 'hop', so what a home gateway sees is source==ISP router, destination==the home gateway. Then your PC sees source==the home gateway, destination==the PC
[20:35] <ghormoon> hi, I'm tryin to make amd gpu work (switch from intel) and can't find /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch, do I need to install something specific?
[20:38] <astralemp> TJ-: I noticed that the source mac address from the server's point of view was different than the physical address of my client comp's wifi-fi adapter
[20:39] <astralemp> is that what you're referring to?
[20:45] <TJ-> astralemp: right; on the link layer (Ethernet) the MAC's only refer to 'this device' and 'the next' (the other end of the cable, or the wifi AP)
[20:46] <debouncer> Whenever I install nvidia drivers (for gtx980 graphic card), I am stuck at the login screen. Can someone help me about this?
[20:47] <astralemp> TJ-: okay. so what would be the correct way to set this up?
[20:47] <oerheks> debouncer, on what ubuntu version, 17.10 ?
[20:48] <debouncer> If I remove the nvidia drivers, I can log in the system but fans of graphic card runs like crazy
[20:48] <debouncer> Ubuntu version is 17.10
[20:48] <oerheks> 17.10/wayland session does not support nvidia drivers for now, change to xorg
[20:48] <juergen_> Hi, I give away per snail mail a cd booklet of the band Children Of The Korn    for free, Album title: godlike, if interested msg me
[20:48] <oerheks> !spam | juergen_
[20:49] <debouncer> Is there any way to downgrade then?
[20:49] <oerheks> debouncer, nope, reinstall 16.04 is the only way
[20:50] <debouncer> Will there be any update with 17.04?
[20:50] <debouncer> Sorry, with 18.04
[20:50] <oerheks> no news about wayland+nvidia yet :-(
[20:51] <oerheks> you *could* try the xorg session from login
[20:52] <debouncer> nvidia drivers are always pain in the ass
[20:52] <oerheks> .. no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks
[20:53] <DiecastMessiah> is it a primus setup ? intel video chip and a nvidia chip or card?
[20:53] <debouncer> okay, thanks
[20:56] <DiecastMessiah> if so you'll need to get bumblebee
[21:00] <Hulio> hi, is there away to allow sftp ?
[21:00] <Hulio> i remember something with ssh
[21:09] <user___> Hi, I would like to know if ubuntu 16.04.4 will have wayland in the hardware enablement stack
[21:12] <max3> is there a way to map horizontal scroll to keyboard shortcuts?
[21:13] <Outy> good evening =)
[21:15] <Outy> max3: this might be your answer: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/151173/keyboard-shortcut-for-horizontal-scrolling
[21:15] <max3> Outy, this is the other way around
[21:15] <max3> hmm i guess mouseclick using xbinkey
[21:17] <pyex> there is program I forgot, i need to remember it, its setup to command parameter for programs, please suggestion me.
[21:20] <Outy> pyex: can you describe more? cannot imagine what you're talking about
[21:20] <charlie_sando> pyex: xargs ?
[21:21] <pyex> its program list to all programs with command line exec setup
[21:21] <pyex> its gui
[21:21] <pyex> right click and seytup parameter like: firejail firefox %U
[21:22] <libben> how do I create a veth in netplan?
[21:24] <sairentokitsune> herro
[21:24] <Outy> pyex: synaptics package manager?
[21:26] <sairentokitsune> anybody have a link to the chat?
[21:26] <pyex> Similarly synaptics, but more basic
[21:26] <backnforth> Hi, will someone help me get steam working? I'm using Ubuntu 17.10 with the Nvdia propriety driver and steam is giving me the following message when running it: http://dpaste.com/1YM8NM4
[21:27] <sairentokitsune> hello?
[21:27] <TJ-> libben: See "man netplan" and the "Virtual devices" paragraph; basically, like bond devices
[21:28] <libben> yeah, I figured so. Just weird that they didnt incorporate an example for veth in man
[21:28] <libben> when they covered most other
[21:29] <Outy> pyex: gnome-software
[21:29] <TJ-> libben: yeah, I think it's a rolling target with heavy development, and possibly the docs lag behind
[21:30] <libben> I couldent find anything in the logs though on github
[21:30] <libben> when I searched veth virtualization and so on
[21:30] <libben> should be mentioned there one would assume
[21:30] <pyex> Outy: No, its basic, only for setyp to exec command line for programs
[21:31] <Outy> backnforth: try again to start steam. when error message is visible: start a terminal and type journalctl -xe  look for any steam error messages ant past&copy here
[21:31] <Outy> pyex: I'm giving up sorry ^^
[21:32] <backnforth> Outy, http://dpaste.com/0KC7114
[21:32] <TJ-> libben: strange yes, it looks like the only mention of veth is in ./tests/integration.py
[21:34] <libben> yeah
[21:34] <libben> thats my thought and hence I asked if anyone had a working veth conf
[21:34] <libben> one would assume it should work, just gonna try later to set it up like bonds
[21:34] <Outy> backnforth: hmm nothing there about steam. mind if you just delete the .steam folder in your home directory
[21:35] <TJ-> libben: I do wonder if the mention in the man-page is aspirational, I don't see how veth would work at all, compared to the amount of code for handling bridges
[21:35] <TJ-> libben: the integration tests veth is for setting up a test host VM, not for testing a YAML fragment
[21:36] <libben> bummer
[21:37] <astralemp> TJ-: so, is ebtables still the right tool for WAN mac address filtering?
[21:37] <backnforth> Outy, I tried deleting it then running steam again and I got it (I removed the parts about how much has been downloaded). Notice it says: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[21:38] <TJ-> libben: looking at the LP bug list, there's a whole host of 'wishlist' items not implemented. I don't see veth in the list or via a search, but I'm suspecting it isn't actually implemented
[21:39] <libben> so netplan is basicly a wrapper on backends likte systemd-network and network-manager and so on?
[21:39] <TJ-> astralemp: No tool will work if you're not dealing with the MAC addresses of the directly connected devices. In other words it won't work for A > B > C > D if you want to block A at C or D
[21:39] <libben> So what would be the best way to go from here?
[21:39] <libben> disable netplan somehow, and just use interfaces?
[21:39] <TJ-> libben: yes, at boot-time it generates the correct systemd-networkd or network-manager config via it's 'renderers'
[21:40] <Outy> backnforth: okay maybe i got ur answer can you please test in a terminal if glxgears is running
[21:40] <pyex> hello, how run program with command paramter shortcut?
[21:40] <TJ-> libben: I'd use system-networkd, it's very simple. add a .network file in /etc/systemd/network/
[21:40] <backnforth> Outy, not installed
[21:40] <Outy> backnforth: install it please and test
[21:41] <backnforth> Outy, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[21:41] <backnforth> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[21:41] <oerheks> pyex, from terminal, or write a launcher for it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[21:41] <Outy> backnforth: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[21:41] <backnforth> I did
[21:41] <backnforth> I had to get that the command
[21:41] <libben> So can I handle that veth interface in netplan after ive done that in systemd/network?
[21:42] <Outy> backnforth: ah okay is it a laptop with nvidia optimus ???
[21:42] <backnforth> Outy, desktop with nvidia 1070
[21:42] <pyex> oerheks: yesterday i get this link and i forgot, thank you for to remember me
[21:42] <Outy> backnforth: driver is not working correctly
[21:43] <backnforth> I installed the propriety ones
[21:43] <backnforth> maybe I should go with nouveau
[21:43] <TJ-> libben: If systemd-networkd veth is configured first. I'm not sure how netplan names the generated config files - you'd want yours to be something like 00-veth.network I guess
[21:43] <Outy> backnforth: could you pls revert to ubuntu drivers and test steam?
[21:44] <astralemp> TJ-: but in theory, couldn't I check UFW-BLOCK logs all of the clients I want to whitelist for their mac addresses, and just use those? so, block at B rather than A?
[21:44] <backnforth> Outy, sure
[21:46] <TJ-> astralemp: I thought you were attempting to block an Internet host from accessing the local LAN ? Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're actually trying to do
[21:48] <backnforth> Outy, works now
[21:49] <oerheks> i want wobbly windows working on 17/10 wayland-session
[21:49] <oerheks> without wobbly windows, wayland is doomed
[21:49] <Outy> backnforth: okay fine... now we know its the driver.. you could go with a little bit older drivers from the nvidia download page and test a few of them
[21:52] <Outy> backnforth: here's somthing interesting: Open the nvidia settings box at the right bottom corner. Click on "Nvidia settings configuration". Now check the box "Include X display names in the config file". Close session and login again or restart.
[21:52] <backnforth> Outy, Last time I tried to manually install drivers I got errors. I need to use the `Software & Updates` app
[21:52] <Outy> backnforth: see my last answer =)
[21:53] <max3> i figured out how to map horizontal scroll to alt+left and alt+right but i get too many key presses? anyone know how to fix that? like turn down the horizontal acceleration or something? i can't find it in synclient
[21:53] <backnforth> Outy, I don't see an nvidia settings box
[21:55] <Outy> backnforth: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings   (only works with nvidia drivers. reinstall =) )
[21:55] <backnforth> Outy, ok
[21:58] <backnforth> Outy, do I need to do a restart?
[21:59] <Outy> backnforth: Open the nvidia settings box at the right bottom corner. Click on       │ adellam
[21:59] <Outy>                     │                          | "Nvidia settings configuration". Now check the box "Include X display names in the config file". Close session   │ admin[m]2
[21:59] <Outy>                     │                          | and login again or restart.
[21:59] <backnforth> I don't see that box
[21:59] <Outy> backnforth: sorry - yes or logoff logon
[21:59] <backnforth> ok
[22:01] <backnforth> Outy, I restarted and I still don't see anyting for nvida
[22:01] <Outy> backnforth: call settings program with: sudo nvidia-settings
[22:03] <backnforth> Outy, Do I need to save the configurations?
[22:03] <backnforth> or can just quit after clicking the checkbox
[22:03] <Outy> backnforth: should be working - search for "include x display names in config file" and check it  yes syve config
[22:04] <backnforth> Outy, what config file?
[22:04] <Outy> backnforth: saving only works if nvidia-setting is started with sudo
[22:05] <backnforth> oh sorry
[22:05] <backnforth> misunderstood what you said
[22:05] <backnforth> Outy, I checked it
[22:05] <backnforth> now what again, sorry?
[22:05] <Outy> backnforth: does it give you option to select a file - weird  it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:06] <backnforth> Outy, nothing pop ups after I click the checkbox
[22:06] <Outy> backnforth: log off log on steam should worl now
[22:06] <backnforth> ok
[22:06] <astralemp> TJ-: I have a VPS, and I want to lock down access to certain ports based on mac address
[22:07] <astralemp> TJ-: and I want to use mac address rather than ip address because of dynamic ips
[22:07] <backnforth> Outy, doesn't work
[22:07] <backnforth> but I didn't save the configurations
[22:07] <astralemp> TJ-: and by access I mean, ip address + port in browser
[22:07] <Outy> backnforth: could you test glxgears again
[22:08] <backnforth> Outy, Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:08] <backnforth> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[22:08] <Outy> backnforth: you have to save it - otherwise it will not work
[22:08] <backnforth> Outy, where do I save it to?
[22:08] <Outy> backnforth: save config
[22:08] <Outy> backnforth: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:09] <oerheks> astralemp, never done that myself, maybe this page is any help https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/iptables-mac-address-filtering.html /// https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2320860
[22:09] <Outy> backnforth: it should do this automatically ... don't know why it give you an opinion
[22:11] <backnforth> Outy: my desktop install is messed now
[22:12] <backnforth> when I logged out, it gave me a message about cleaning my hard drive , then after rebooting I'm stuck at a screen that says ubuntu
[22:13] <Outy> backnforth: test glx gears. and steam. messed? no worry nvidia settings normally did a backup of your old xorg.conf
[22:13] <Outy> backnforth: oh okay. there should me an xorg.conf (messed) and an old one xorg.bak or something like that
[22:14] <Outy> you could sudo cp xorg.old xorg.conf
[22:14] <backnforth> I can't find a backup
[22:15] <backnforth> am I going to have to reinstall lubuntu ?
[22:16] <Outy> backnforth: could you then pls delete  ~/.config/monitors.xml
[22:16] <Outy> backnforth: if it is there
[22:16] <backnforth> can't find it
[22:17] <backnforth> I did doing a "find" too
[22:17] <Outy> @ALL can anybody help here to restore a broken xorg.conf?
[22:19] <Outy> backnforth: found it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:20] <backnforth> it says xserver-org is not installed
[22:20] <backnforth> doesn't Ubuntu 17.10 use Wayland ?
[22:21] <Outy> backnforth: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lxdm
[22:21] <oerheks> if you run the wayland session, nvidia is not working
[22:21] <oerheks> *driver
[22:22]  * oerheks told that before
[22:22] <backnforth> Nvidia doesn't work with Wayland?
[22:22] <backnforth> Pity, it says lxdm is not installed
[22:22] <backnforth> sorry, autocorrect
[22:23] <backnforth> outy**
[22:24] <Outy> backnforth: wtf ??? whats wrong with lubuntu... nothing works here?
[22:26] <Outy> backnforth: could you: apt list nvidia-*
[22:26] <backnforth> gives me a long list, what am I looking for?
[22:26] <Outy> backnforth: could you: apt list nvidia-* | grep installed
[22:27] <oerheks> driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[22:28] <backnforth> nvidia: 384, opencl-icd-384, prime, and settings installed
[22:28] <Outy> backnforth: you can try sudo nvidia-uninstall
[22:28] <backnforth> it's not a command on my system
[22:29] <Outy> backnforth: then sudo apt-get purge nvidia: 384  or whatever the right package name is
[22:30] <Outy> backnforth: if successful delete xorg.conf with: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:31] <backnforth> done
[22:31] <Outy> backnforth: restart see if everything is working again
[22:32] <backnforth> works again
[22:33] <Outy> backnforth: very good... so nvidia drivers not working on wayland
[22:33] <Outy> backnforth: sorry for the mess
[22:33] <backnforth> maybe I should send my card back
[22:33] <backnforth> I will test it on games first
[22:33] <Outy> backnforth: Xubuntu is waaaayyy better, you might want to try it
[22:33] <backnforth> I thought lxde was more lightweight
[22:33] <Outy> backnforth: lubuntu is a little bit bad
[22:34] <Outy> backnforth: xfce is lightweight too but way more compatible
[22:34] <backnforth> does it use x11?
[22:34] <konimex> well everything use x11 atm..
[22:35] <backnforth> ohhh ok
[22:35] <DiecastMessiah> yeah i think xfce inly uses like less than 300mb
[22:35] <backnforth> Hmm m
[22:35] <DiecastMessiah> ram
[22:35] <Outy> backnforth: yes gnome x11
[22:35] <pyex> I searching to my firefox exec location.
[22:36] <Outy> backnforth: xfce is very very configureable you WILL like it!
[22:36] <backnforth> but I doesn't have Ubuntu 17.10?
[22:36] <backnforth> it**
[22:37] <backnforth> found it.
[22:37] <Outy> backnforth: little tip. after installation do sudo apt-get install xfwm4-themes xfce4-goodies
[22:38] <Outy> backnforth: then do a little testing with the very well customizeable taskbars / panels
[22:39] <Outy> backnforth: see my desktop http://i.imgur.com/zNvyz3Y.png
[22:39] <cnnx> i'm at my parents house visiting right now, i want to reboot my dual boot ubuntu/win10 rig from remote to boot into win10 instead of the default ubuntu boot.. can i safely modify the grub config file to do this or do I risk of breaking it and losing mining time?
[22:40] <akik> cnnx: if you didn't test it earlier, it's risky
[22:41] <cnnx> yeah thought so
[22:41] <backnforth> nice outy, looks awesome
[22:42] <ducasse> cnnx: see the grub-reboot man page
[22:42] <akik> cnnx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Submenus
[22:42] <Tron42> Hi! Can I ask here about an issue I have with installation of Ubuntu?
[22:43] <tonyt> Tron42 yes
[22:43] <Outy> backnforth: yeah ... have a look into the menu and look for appearance / window manager / windows manager tweaks <-- activate desktop composition here
[22:43] <Outy> backnforth: for nice transparency effects and more
[22:44] <Tron42> Thanks. Does Ubuntu 17.10 has support for installation on pc with 32 bit UEFI?
[22:44] <Outy> backnforth: you only have to install xfce now =)
[22:45] <backnforth> ah man, my bios has a bad habit of turning on secure boot on its own
[22:45] <Outy> backnforth: xubuntu (xfce)
[22:47] <Outy> backnforth: sometimes there is an additional setting in bios. called csm (activate it) and OS selection: windows 8 / 10 set this to other os
[22:48] <Outy> backnforth: should work
[22:49] <akik> cnnx: you can see the configured "main view" grub entries with: grep "^menuentry" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:49] <pyex> Why "Searching apps and /bin/apps" Different?
[22:49] <pyex> Why /usr/bin/X11/X11... eternal?
[22:50] <akik> cnnx: that will skip any submenus that have any previous kernels
[22:50] <pyex> I need to answers.
[22:50] <backnforth> pity, I'm able to turn it off easily. but I don't know why it comes back on sometimes.
[22:50] <Tron42> Sorry for disconnection.
[22:50] <Outy> backnforth: found the other options i mentioned
[22:50] <Outy> backnforth: ?
[22:51] <Tron42> Does ubuntu 17.10 supports 32 bit UEFI? Maybe someone answered but i missed it
[22:51] <backnforth> oh ok, I'll look into that
[22:52] <akik> cnnx: of course i was wrong, you can't skip the submenus
[22:53] <akik> cnnx: egrep "(menuentry|submenu)" /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:53] <Outy> Tron42: maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:53] <oerheks> Tron42, 32 bit uefi is a hack :-( see the uefi factoid
[22:53] <Outy> Tron42: I'm not sure either
[22:54] <Tron42> thanks looking that
[22:54] <AmericanBlend> Tron42, not sure but you probably need 64 bit for uefi
[22:55] <Outy> Tron42: here could be an answer: https://medium.com/@realzedgoat/a-sorta-beginners-guide-to-installing-ubuntu-linux-on-32-bit-uefi-machines-d39b1d1961ec
[22:56] <oerheks> ask your vendor for a 64 bit uefi update
[22:58] <Tron42> AmericanBlend: I am trying to install 64 bit Ubuntu on 64 bit detachable laptop that has a 32 bit uefi
[22:59] <AmericanBlend> no bios update?
[22:59] <AmericanBlend> maybe it's locked that way
[23:00] <AmericanBlend> how much ram it has?
[23:00] <Tron42> 2 GB
[23:00] <AmericanBlend> then go with 32 bit
[23:00] <Tron42> it's around 2013 I think
[23:00] <AmericanBlend> you don't need 64 bit ubuntu on a 2gnb laptop
[23:01] <AmericanBlend> a process can address only 2gb on 32 bit anyway
[23:01] <Tron42> But UEFI doesn't require a 64 bit system?
[23:01] <AmericanBlend> that's exacly how much ram you have
[23:01] <Outy> Tron42: yeah 32bit will save your precios ram. executeables are less demanding when compiled for 32bit systems
[23:01] <AmericanBlend> try it out
[23:02] <AmericanBlend> if a process can max out on 2 gigs it's what the laptop has max anyway
[23:02] <akik> AmericanBlend: processes can allocate 3 gigs on 32-bit
[23:02] <AmericanBlend> from what i know 2 gigs but i can be wrong
[23:03] <AmericanBlend> still nont an issue
[23:04] <backnforth> outy, what did you want me to install again for the cool theme stuff
[23:04] <backnforth> and whatever else for cool stuff
[23:07] <AmericanBlend> "the limitations are 3GB per process on x86-Linux with pae-kernel"
[23:07] <AmericanBlend> yeah you're right, 3gb
[23:07] <AmericanBlend> the source of this is not reliable tho
[23:08] <Outy> backnforth: little tip. after installation do sudo apt-get install xfwm4-themes xfce4-goodies
[23:09] <Outy> backnforth: yeah ... after install have a look into the menu and look for appearance / window manager / windows manager tweaks <-- activate desktop composition here
[23:09] <backnforth> outy,ok thanks. I'm using my phone for irc and I lost the previous messages
[23:11] <BOb___> hi
[23:11] <BOb___> does anyone know how to use centos
[23:11] <BOb___> im getting errors in my commands
[23:11] <akik> BOb___: yes, #centos
[23:11] <oerheks> BOb___, wrong channel, try #centos ?
[23:12] <oerheks> else ##linux
[23:12] <Outy> backnforth: window manager tweaks -> compositor is for having the options for transparency and desktop effects later  you should turn it on =)
[23:14] <backnforth> outy,it looks to be on by default
[23:15] <BOb___> nobody is answering in centos
[23:15] <BOb___> :/
[23:15] <jps> morning
[23:16] <oerheks> BOb___, just be pationt, or try ##linux
[23:16] <AmericanBlend> you get what you payed for
[23:16] <oerheks> c/patient
[23:16] <jps> hi
[23:16] <AmericanBlend> if you had rhel you would get support rihgt away
[23:16] <BOb___> i thought they were the same
[23:17] <AmericanBlend> no, cent os is a free rhel build
[23:17] <AmericanBlend> rhel isn't free but you get support
[23:18] <astralemp> anyone know how device tied auth works?
[23:18] <Budgii> what in the world is 'host key
[23:18] <Budgii> virtual box
[23:18] <akik> BOb___: i'm in #centos and you didn't ask anything
[23:18] <Budgii> i thought it was alt..
[23:18] <BOb___> ffs
[23:19] <BOb___> i cant register
[23:19] <BOb___> lel
[23:19] <akik> so don't lie
[23:19] <BOb___> i thought i did
[23:19] <BOb___> i wasnt registered
[23:19] <BOb___> didnt realize
[23:19] <akik> that happens
[23:19] <oerheks> get help with registering in #freenode, not here
[23:19] <AmericanBlend> maybe he's just unaware
[23:20] <BOb___> but when i do register
[23:20] <BOb___> it says already registered
[23:20] <Outy> re
[23:20] <tsimonq2> Hi there, I'm having an issue with libvirt on an Ubuntu host. It won't properly detect networking on the guest (neither DNS nor a direct ping to 8.8.8.8 work). I've tried Googling around to no avail. Any suggestions?
[23:22] <pp00010101> Hi, I'm trying to change theme for boot splash screen and my changes are applied only to shutdown splash, not boot splash. Are these warnings during update initramfs might be an issue? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TV9vYh8TdZ/
[23:22] <pp00010101> Also I run grub if that makes a difference
[23:22] <Outy> pp00010101: is this a help ? https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#How_do_I_forward_incoming_connections_to_a_guest_that_is_connected_via_a_NATed_virtual_network.3F_.3D
[23:22] <Outy> pp00010101: sorry wrong
[23:22] <Outy> tsimonq2: https://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#How_do_I_forward_incoming_connections_to_a_guest_that_is_connected_via_a_NATed_virtual_network.3F_.3D
[23:24] <Outy> pp00010101: did you put a anypicture.png into /boot/grub/ ???
[23:24] <oerheks> tsimonq2, maybe this page is any help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking#Network_Bridge_Does_Not_Appear_in_Virt-Manager
[23:24] <BOb___> ok i registered
[23:24] <tsimonq2> Outy: Why would I do that? I don't need it.
[23:24] <BOb___> on another chat
[23:24] <tsimonq2> oerheks: I'll look, thanks.
[23:24] <BOb___> but it says not identified to nick
[23:25] <Aero5123> hi
[23:25] <Aero5123> this is my alt
[23:25] <Aero5123> its registered
[23:25] <oerheks> BOb___, get help with registering/loging in in #freenode, not here
[23:25] <Aero5123> ok
[23:25] <pp00010101> Outy: I have not made any changes to grub yet, I dont want to change grub splash, but system boot splash
[23:26] <BOb___> what the hell
[23:26] <tsimonq2> oerheks: aaaHA! Bookmarked, thank you
[23:26] <BOb___> they autobanned me from centos
[23:26] <BOb___> i didnt even do anything
[23:26] <oerheks> tsimonq2, have fun!
[23:26] <BOb___> what the hell
[23:27] <Outy> pp00010101: for boot splash edit /etc/default/grub  uncomment GRUB_GFXMODE=put your native monitor resolution here like 1920x1080   put a 1920x1080 picture.png into /boot/grub/ then sudo update-grub
[23:27] <Toba> BOb___: this has nothing to do with the #ubuntu channel try googling these questions
[23:27] <Toba> freenode has good web pages about all of it
[23:28] <oerheks> BOb___,  please type /join #freenode
[23:28] <Outy> pp00010101: ahh okay, read your answer too late
[23:28] <backnforth> outy, steam is working with the binaries on Xubuntu
[23:28] <Outy> pp00010101: are you on ubuntu ?
[23:28] <Outy> backnforth: very good =) =) =)
[23:28] <pp00010101> Outy: xubuntu 16.04
[23:30] <Outy> pp00010101: ahh okay give me a sec... i know where it is have to take a look
[23:33] <pp00010101> Outy: appreciate, I think i got my steps right, but I can't figure out why they are taking effect only partially (only for shutdown splash)
[23:33] <Outy> pp00010101: its in lightdm gtk+ greeter settings -> apperance -> set an image you like -> uncheck "use user wallpaper if available"
[23:35] <Outy> pp00010101: and under session & startup -> splash -> set to none
[23:37] <afidegnum> hello, is there any html/boostrap for linux a la dreameaver ?
[23:37] <afidegnum> specially ubuntu
[23:37] <Outy> pp00010101: that's how i configured it... there are other ways to set custom splah screens with animated loading bars or rotating whatever but these ways are complicated and i never tried
[23:37] <pp00010101> Outy: so there are three differnt thing we are talking about here 1. login screen backgroud 2. splash screen during login 3. splash screen durign BOOT which I intend to change http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/fixedbyvonnie-xubuntu-starting.png
[23:38] <pp00010101> but thanks for help anyway, I will keep digging :)
[23:38] <Outy> afidegnum: http://kompozer.net/
[23:38] <pyex> how may i write tilde (~) shortcut from keyboard?
[23:39] <afidegnum> Outy: composer do not have a kind of drag-and-drop builder, and it's not free
[23:41] <oerheks> https://alternativeto.net/software/adobe-dreamweaver/?platform=linux
[23:42] <bazhang> aptana studio comes to mind as being closer to dreamweaver
[23:42] <Outy> pp00010101: 3. splash boot = the grub part i was typing before 2. splash login = lightdm gtk+ greeter settings i was typing before
[23:43] <Outy> pp00010101: you should try my suggestions
[23:43] <BOb___> um
[23:43] <BOb___> hello
[23:43] <Outy> pp00010101: it works on my machine
[23:43] <royal_screwup21> so I have a few a few .jar packages interspersed across my file system. I want to redirect all of them to one location. What's the easiest way to accomplish this?
[23:44] <Outy> afidegnum: its free and open source
[23:44] <Outy> afidegnum: what do you mean ?
[23:44] <pp00010101> Outy: the grub part update only grub backround? Im talking about animated loading theme that is displayed during boot
[23:45] <Outy> pp00010101: that was the part i was typing before. i haven't done it before. too complicated for me.
[23:45] <Outy> pp00010101: sorry
[23:45] <Outy> afidegnum: did you visit http://kompozer.net/ ?
[23:47] <afidegnum> Outy: unfortunately, the last update is 2010,
[23:47] <pp00010101> Outy: this is actually pretty simple, but for some reason does not work form me. Theme is handled by plymouth program and its config should be written to initramfs after changes. This is done in the steps shown here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TV9vYh8TdZ/
[23:48] <pp00010101> but my changes are applied only for shutdown splash, probably initramfs is not correctly saved or is overwritten by some other program
[23:49] <davidw93> When setting up a git repo, what owner/group/permissions do most people put on the /srv/git directory? Just trying to stay consistent with other devs
[23:49] <Outy> afidegnum: you're right but according to suggestions of some people it is close to dreamweaver
[23:49] <afidegnum> is there no recent one?
[23:51] <Outy> pp00010101: ah ok i see - and that is exactly the part im afraid of messing with ;)
[23:51] <bazhang> afidegnum, what features from dreamweaver did you want
[23:52] <antjose> hello
[23:52] <afidegnum> quick edit of pages, forms specially with bootstrap
[23:53] <strive> davidw93: Whatever permissions you want your directory to have; only the files within the git directory will be pushed.
[23:54] <afidegnum> i don't want to be switching to windows anytime i want to design some html stuff
[23:54] <davidw93> right, I just was curious if there was a "best practice" so to speak from both a security / practicality issue. Haven't been able to find much on this online
[23:54] <oerheks> !ide
[23:54] <strive> davidw93: Are you familiar with using git?
[23:55] <davidw93> Yes, I'm talking more from a sysadmin perspective I suppose
[23:55] <strive> davidw93: Ah, ok.
[23:55] <strive> You could set the permissions to allow only owner and group.
[23:57] <Outy> afidegnum: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/google-web-designer-available-for-linux.html