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Unit193~backports uploaded to PPA`01:19
Unit193bluesabre: Did tha aforementioned, added my PPA as build requirement.01:24
bluesabrepleia2: I think your decision was good :)04:21
bluesabreUnit193: much appreciated04:21
pleia2ok, good :)04:22
bluesabreand now it's time for bed04:23
bluesabrenighty allll04:23
Unit193G'nighty.04:24
Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/dWHboool1hPkiFjDocCw btw.12:25
Unit193(http://paste.openstack.org/show/Uo1cWwyaGCkudnACrk64/)12:29
Unit193bluesabre: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-sntray-plugin_0.4.8-1.dsc btw if you want to try it, but I recommend xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin much more highly. :P12:40
bluesabregood morning!13:02
Unit193Heya.13:03
bluesabreUnit193: here's the fixed ind-plugin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zbPsN4BP3K/13:04
Unit193That's what my last paste was. :P13:05
bluesabrethat I was working on at the same time13:05
bluesabreI see now13:05
bluesabre:D13:05
bluesabrewell, good on us for being productive13:05
bluesabreyou're the nicer guy, I tossed aside the ubuntu history in mine13:06
Unit193-Recommends: ayatana-indicator-application  ← This isn't documented, but otherwise nice.13:07
Unit193Yes, but you did better with the actual changelog. :P13:07
Unit193..Hit wrap-and-sort before uploading if you don't mind?13:07
bluesabredon't know what that means, so feel free to do that and upload yours13:08
Unit193It'll sort the build-depends, it's an actual application.13:09
bluesabreneat13:09
bluesabrebut yeah, go ahead and upload13:10
bluesabregoing to try to figure out the xfdesktop thing today13:10
Unit193(I really don't mind if you do.)  OK, great.  That's one I can't do!13:10
bluesabre:D13:12
bluesabreNot convinced I can either, but going to throw code at the wall and see what sticks (and works)13:12
Unit193Ouch, thanks for trying.  Simon was the last to touch that patch, fwiw.13:13
bluesabreactually, it might not be so hard13:23
bluesabrejust a lot of noise in that commit13:23
Unit193BTW, in case you need to backport to Xenial you can add ppa:unit193/staging  as a PPA dep, such that it uses https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+build/1436309613:24
Unit193bluesabre: cd xfdesk*;git init;gbp import-dsc ../xfd*.dsc;gbp pq import; do the changes, ammend commit? :>13:24
bluesabrehere we go, that will make this easier13:39
bluesabrehttps://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/accountsservice-background/+merge/33543113:39
Unit193Nice!  I didn't see it.13:41
ochosikewl, good to hear bluesabre 13:51
ochosii didn't get to it, was busy bisecting notifyd13:51
ochosididn't want us to have something that crashes here and there in the LTS...13:51
ochosianyway, how about including screenshooter 1.9 now that we have exo too?13:51
bluesabreochosi, Unit193, sounds fine to me, https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screenshooter/tree/NEWS14:07
Unit193In PPA, been picked up by Debian, now that exo is in only a matter of time.14:07
bluesabreflocculant, ochosi, Unit193: Got a working patch for xfdesktop :) Is there a LP bug that needs to be marked fixed with this?14:35
ochosiweee15:28
ochosinice work bluesabre 15:28
ochosipossible that there's no bugreport yet15:29
ochosicouldn't find one at least15:30
bluesabreUnit193: care to test? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4VdZzK2ty7/16:12
flocculantshall see what goes on there then :)16:43
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bluesabreflocculant: how many monitors do you have?19:12
bluesabreI think I have a fix for the greeter going crazy and flickering non-stop and not allowing the user to login bug... but I can't seem to determine if that's ever been reported or if it only plagues me19:13
bluesabreunless it is one of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1410406 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/141040619:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1410406 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "black screen after booting, 100% cpu usage" [Critical,Triaged]19:17
bluesabre(or the one that is not the same number, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1509780)19:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1509780 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "High cpu usage when lightdm screenlock is active" [High,Confirmed]19:18
bluesabrein fact, knowing what it is doing now, I feel pretty confident that it is those19:19
knome:)19:23
benoliver999Hey - I am trying to upload to the photo contest but keep getting PHP filesize upload limit errors. I have 3 images, the largest is 4.8M.20:03
benoliver999The wallpaper contest I mean, sorry.20:03
bluesabreknome20:32
knomebluesabre20:37
knomeright...20:37
* knome checks20:37
knomewe should be at 8MB20:41
knomepleia2, any insight on this?20:41
knomeUnit193, or there?20:41
knomewait, no20:42
knomedifferent setting for php720:42
knomebenoliver999, can you retry now?20:43
knomepleia2, Unit193: problem solved, resume with life20:44
benoliver999Yup looks good!20:57
benoliver999Thanks20:57
knomenp20:58
knomethanks for participating20:58
Unit193More than willing to test.21:02
Unit193https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/thunar_1.7.1-1.html21:05
Unit193bluesabre: Am I supposed to see if it compiles, works at all, or leaks?  Does the first two!21:17
Unit193flocculant: You had mentioned wanting a working desktop, would you be interested in me syncing thunar from experimental to the PPA, then adding the compatibility patch to xfdesktop there? (Stacked atop the background fixing upload.)22:04
Unit193I note that we won't be looking to put that version of thunar in Bionic however, it being an LTS release we'd like to put as few development builds in.22:06
ochosibluesabre: there is a bug sometimes when the mousepointer is over the login password input field and the whole thing starts to flicker and eat CPU23:13
ochosibluesabre: only clicking into the password field makes that stop23:13
knomei also noticed today the mouse pointer is larger on the login screen than my desktop (:23:13
ochosiyeah, the greeter uses the systemwide mouse settings23:13
ochosinot the session/user settings23:14
knomei don't know that i have changed my user settings though?23:14
ochosimaybe not, but maybe the system default deviates from what we define in xubuntu-default-settings, which may only affect the session23:15
ochosi(just guessing)23:15
Unit193We use DMZ-White.23:15
knomemaybe...23:16
knomei haven't noticed before (the new monitor) though23:16
knomewhat's the setting for you then?23:16
ochosihaven't checked23:16
ochosibut for me there has never been a diff23:16
Unit193update-alternatives --query x-cursor-theme23:16
knomeme neither - so far as far as i can see23:17
ochosiyeah, i also use DMZ-White (if that was the question)23:17
knomeyep.23:17
knomeme too23:17
knomemy cursor size is 2423:17
knomeis is off-default?23:17
knome*it23:18
Unit193(And xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/CursorThemeName)23:18
ochosibluesabre, knome: it's about time we decide what to do with gtk-theme-config (i know, another reminder...) i can probably make it a greybird-config or i can make it less broken than it currently is, but it cannot be "fixed" in the final sense23:26
ochosii'm happy to either drop it or at least push an improved version23:26
ochosibut the current thing cannot be part of the release imo23:26
knomei agree with the last line23:26
ochosi(not sure *that* many ppl use it, after all, almost nobody complained about it being so utterly broken already)23:27
knomedo you think you have sensibly time to fix it for this LTS, or would it just eat time from other stuff?23:27
Unit193https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=gtk-theme-config23:28
knomeUnit193 and the link show23:28
knome;)23:28
knomeor _ink show23:28
ochosiUnit193: is that a lot compared to "other" stuff?23:28
ochosii mean what would you compare it with?23:28
ochosiknome: as it's bugfix, we still have a bit of time23:29
knomethat's not the question...23:29
ochosithe question is what you understand as "fix"23:29
ochosiyou already saw how far i got until now23:29
knomewhatever you consider "good enough to ship with an LTS"23:29
ochosiand i can't get that much further23:29
ochosii.e. there are things i cant fix23:29
ochosii also described those already23:30
ochosi(e.g. tabs)23:30
knomemy question directly relates to whether we are potentially eating your time which you could use to do something more useful23:30
ochosiso it's hard to say what is "good enough to ship"23:30
ochosiof course it will :)23:30
ochosibut the question is what else we really want to get done in time for 18.0423:30
Unit193I'd learn towards rm -rf as a fix. :323:30
knomein that case i'd probably vote for "drop it for this LTS"23:30
knomeand no replacement23:30
knomewe can revisit later if people start crying23:31
ochosianother power manager bugfix release? or another clipman bugfix release?23:31
ochosior whatever23:31
ochosidunno if we have other critical bugs to attend to 23:31
ochosibluesabre took out one that i would have considered annoying (xfdesktop)23:31
ochosiand he took care of the greeter23:31
knomemaybe provide the current version - or something slightly improved - in a PPA?23:32
ochosiand there has been another thunar 1.6 release that i didn't have to do \o/23:32
ochosiso depending on where we feel we need fixes, i can spend some time23:32
Unit193But can we trust it? :323:32
ochosiUnit193: we can test it ;)23:33
ochosianyway, give it some thought23:33
ochosii'll be back tomorrow or so23:33
Unit193!info thunar bionic23:33
ochosinighty!23:33
Unit193I mean...23:33
ubottuthunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.14-1 (bionic), package size 305 kB, installed size 1036 kB23:33
knomenighty ochosi 23:33
bluesabreochosi: there's some critical parole bugs if you want to poke that at all23:53
bluesabreochosi: still need to give your -theme-config code a try, probably tomorrow for that23:53
bluesabreUnit193: thanks for testing, was really only worried about it working, so that sounds agreeable23:54
Unit193\o/23:54
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/2.3.3-1ubuntu123:58

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