[01:19] <Unit193> ~backports uploaded to PPA`
[01:24] <Unit193> bluesabre: Did tha aforementioned, added my PPA as build requirement.
[04:21] <bluesabre> pleia2: I think your decision was good :)
[04:21] <bluesabre> Unit193: much appreciated
[04:22] <pleia2> ok, good :)
[04:23] <bluesabre> and now it's time for bed
[04:23] <bluesabre> nighty allll
[04:24] <Unit193> G'nighty.
[12:25] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/dWHboool1hPkiFjDocCw btw.
[12:29] <Unit193> (http://paste.openstack.org/show/Uo1cWwyaGCkudnACrk64/)
[12:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://sigma.unit193.net/source/xfce4-sntray-plugin_0.4.8-1.dsc btw if you want to try it, but I recommend xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin much more highly. :P
[13:02] <bluesabre> good morning!
[13:03] <Unit193> Heya.
[13:04] <bluesabre> Unit193: here's the fixed ind-plugin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zbPsN4BP3K/
[13:05] <Unit193> That's what my last paste was. :P
[13:05] <bluesabre> that I was working on at the same time
[13:05] <bluesabre> I see now
[13:05] <bluesabre> :D
[13:05] <bluesabre> well, good on us for being productive
[13:06] <bluesabre> you're the nicer guy, I tossed aside the ubuntu history in mine
[13:07] <Unit193> -Recommends: ayatana-indicator-application  ← This isn't documented, but otherwise nice.
[13:07] <Unit193> Yes, but you did better with the actual changelog. :P
[13:07] <Unit193> ..Hit wrap-and-sort before uploading if you don't mind?
[13:08] <bluesabre> don't know what that means, so feel free to do that and upload yours
[13:09] <Unit193> It'll sort the build-depends, it's an actual application.
[13:09] <bluesabre> neat
[13:10] <bluesabre> but yeah, go ahead and upload
[13:10] <bluesabre> going to try to figure out the xfdesktop thing today
[13:10] <Unit193> (I really don't mind if you do.)  OK, great.  That's one I can't do!
[13:12] <bluesabre> :D
[13:12] <bluesabre> Not convinced I can either, but going to throw code at the wall and see what sticks (and works)
[13:13] <Unit193> Ouch, thanks for trying.  Simon was the last to touch that patch, fwiw.
[13:23] <bluesabre> actually, it might not be so hard
[13:23] <bluesabre> just a lot of noise in that commit
[13:24] <Unit193> BTW, in case you need to backport to Xenial you can add ppa:unit193/staging  as a PPA dep, such that it uses https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+build/14363096
[13:24] <Unit193> bluesabre: cd xfdesk*;git init;gbp import-dsc ../xfd*.dsc;gbp pq import; do the changes, ammend commit? :>
[13:39] <bluesabre> here we go, that will make this easier
[13:39] <bluesabre> https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/accountsservice-background/+merge/335431
[13:41] <Unit193> Nice!  I didn't see it.
[13:51] <ochosi> kewl, good to hear bluesabre 
[13:51] <ochosi> i didn't get to it, was busy bisecting notifyd
[13:51] <ochosi> didn't want us to have something that crashes here and there in the LTS...
[13:51] <ochosi> anyway, how about including screenshooter 1.9 now that we have exo too?
[14:07] <bluesabre> ochosi, Unit193, sounds fine to me, https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screenshooter/tree/NEWS
[14:07] <Unit193> In PPA, been picked up by Debian, now that exo is in only a matter of time.
[14:35] <bluesabre> flocculant, ochosi, Unit193: Got a working patch for xfdesktop :) Is there a LP bug that needs to be marked fixed with this?
[15:28] <ochosi> weee
[15:28] <ochosi> nice work bluesabre 
[15:29] <ochosi> possible that there's no bugreport yet
[15:30] <ochosi> couldn't find one at least
[16:12] <bluesabre> Unit193: care to test? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4VdZzK2ty7/
[16:43] <flocculant> shall see what goes on there then :)
[19:12] <bluesabre> flocculant: how many monitors do you have?
[19:13] <bluesabre> I think I have a fix for the greeter going crazy and flickering non-stop and not allowing the user to login bug... but I can't seem to determine if that's ever been reported or if it only plagues me
[19:17] <bluesabre> unless it is one of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1410406 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1410406
[19:18] <bluesabre> (or the one that is not the same number, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1509780)
[19:19] <bluesabre> in fact, knowing what it is doing now, I feel pretty confident that it is those
[19:23] <knome> :)
[20:03] <benoliver999> Hey - I am trying to upload to the photo contest but keep getting PHP filesize upload limit errors. I have 3 images, the largest is 4.8M.
[20:03] <benoliver999> The wallpaper contest I mean, sorry.
[20:32] <bluesabre> knome
[20:37] <knome> bluesabre
[20:37] <knome> right...
[20:37]  * knome checks
[20:41] <knome> we should be at 8MB
[20:41] <knome> pleia2, any insight on this?
[20:41] <knome> Unit193, or there?
[20:42] <knome> wait, no
[20:42] <knome> different setting for php7
[20:43] <knome> benoliver999, can you retry now?
[20:44] <knome> pleia2, Unit193: problem solved, resume with life
[20:57] <benoliver999> Yup looks good!
[20:57] <benoliver999> Thanks
[20:58] <knome> np
[20:58] <knome> thanks for participating
[21:02] <Unit193> More than willing to test.
[21:05] <Unit193> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/thunar_1.7.1-1.html
[21:17] <Unit193> bluesabre: Am I supposed to see if it compiles, works at all, or leaks?  Does the first two!
[22:04] <Unit193> flocculant: You had mentioned wanting a working desktop, would you be interested in me syncing thunar from experimental to the PPA, then adding the compatibility patch to xfdesktop there? (Stacked atop the background fixing upload.)
[22:06] <Unit193> I note that we won't be looking to put that version of thunar in Bionic however, it being an LTS release we'd like to put as few development builds in.
[23:13] <ochosi> bluesabre: there is a bug sometimes when the mousepointer is over the login password input field and the whole thing starts to flicker and eat CPU
[23:13] <ochosi> bluesabre: only clicking into the password field makes that stop
[23:13] <knome> i also noticed today the mouse pointer is larger on the login screen than my desktop (:
[23:13] <ochosi> yeah, the greeter uses the systemwide mouse settings
[23:14] <ochosi> not the session/user settings
[23:14] <knome> i don't know that i have changed my user settings though?
[23:15] <ochosi> maybe not, but maybe the system default deviates from what we define in xubuntu-default-settings, which may only affect the session
[23:15] <ochosi> (just guessing)
[23:15] <Unit193> We use DMZ-White.
[23:16] <knome> maybe...
[23:16] <knome> i haven't noticed before (the new monitor) though
[23:16] <knome> what's the setting for you then?
[23:16] <ochosi> haven't checked
[23:16] <ochosi> but for me there has never been a diff
[23:16] <Unit193> update-alternatives --query x-cursor-theme
[23:17] <knome> me neither - so far as far as i can see
[23:17] <ochosi> yeah, i also use DMZ-White (if that was the question)
[23:17] <knome> yep.
[23:17] <knome> me too
[23:17] <knome> my cursor size is 24
[23:17] <knome> is is off-default?
[23:18] <knome> *it
[23:18] <Unit193> (And xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/CursorThemeName)
[23:26] <ochosi> bluesabre, knome: it's about time we decide what to do with gtk-theme-config (i know, another reminder...) i can probably make it a greybird-config or i can make it less broken than it currently is, but it cannot be "fixed" in the final sense
[23:26] <ochosi> i'm happy to either drop it or at least push an improved version
[23:26] <ochosi> but the current thing cannot be part of the release imo
[23:26] <knome> i agree with the last line
[23:27] <ochosi> (not sure *that* many ppl use it, after all, almost nobody complained about it being so utterly broken already)
[23:27] <knome> do you think you have sensibly time to fix it for this LTS, or would it just eat time from other stuff?
[23:28] <Unit193> https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=gtk-theme-config
[23:28] <knome> Unit193 and the link show
[23:28] <knome> ;)
[23:28] <knome> or _ink show
[23:28] <ochosi> Unit193: is that a lot compared to "other" stuff?
[23:28] <ochosi> i mean what would you compare it with?
[23:29] <ochosi> knome: as it's bugfix, we still have a bit of time
[23:29] <knome> that's not the question...
[23:29] <ochosi> the question is what you understand as "fix"
[23:29] <ochosi> you already saw how far i got until now
[23:29] <knome> whatever you consider "good enough to ship with an LTS"
[23:29] <ochosi> and i can't get that much further
[23:29] <ochosi> i.e. there are things i cant fix
[23:30] <ochosi> i also described those already
[23:30] <ochosi> (e.g. tabs)
[23:30] <knome> my question directly relates to whether we are potentially eating your time which you could use to do something more useful
[23:30] <ochosi> so it's hard to say what is "good enough to ship"
[23:30] <ochosi> of course it will :)
[23:30] <ochosi> but the question is what else we really want to get done in time for 18.04
[23:30] <Unit193> I'd learn towards rm -rf as a fix. :3
[23:30] <knome> in that case i'd probably vote for "drop it for this LTS"
[23:30] <knome> and no replacement
[23:31] <knome> we can revisit later if people start crying
[23:31] <ochosi> another power manager bugfix release? or another clipman bugfix release?
[23:31] <ochosi> or whatever
[23:31] <ochosi> dunno if we have other critical bugs to attend to 
[23:31] <ochosi> bluesabre took out one that i would have considered annoying (xfdesktop)
[23:31] <ochosi> and he took care of the greeter
[23:32] <knome> maybe provide the current version - or something slightly improved - in a PPA?
[23:32] <ochosi> and there has been another thunar 1.6 release that i didn't have to do \o/
[23:32] <ochosi> so depending on where we feel we need fixes, i can spend some time
[23:32] <Unit193> But can we trust it? :3
[23:33] <ochosi> Unit193: we can test it ;)
[23:33] <ochosi> anyway, give it some thought
[23:33] <ochosi> i'll be back tomorrow or so
[23:33] <Unit193> !info thunar bionic
[23:33] <ochosi> nighty!
[23:33] <Unit193> I mean...
[23:33] <knome> nighty ochosi 
[23:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: there's some critical parole bugs if you want to poke that at all
[23:53] <bluesabre> ochosi: still need to give your -theme-config code a try, probably tomorrow for that
[23:54] <bluesabre> Unit193: thanks for testing, was really only worried about it working, so that sounds agreeable
[23:54] <Unit193> \o/
[23:58] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/2.3.3-1ubuntu1