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lubot<StepanSkryabin> @Luiz ClΓ‘udio, What's the name of this icon theme?12:29
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @StepanSkryabin, that's Numix: https://github.com/numixproject/numix-icon-theme12:43
lubot<StepanSkryabin> @VikingRedwolf, Thank you!13:14
lubot<VikingRedwolf> yw 😊13:19
lubotmsvenom was added by: msvenom15:07
lubot<msvenom> Jacob Hello15:08
lubotRicardo was added by: Ricardo17:00
lubot<Ricardo> hi someone runnig zorin?17:01
lubot<tsimonq2> @Ricardo, That's not what this channel is for πŸ˜‰17:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA80o19:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master f88971f Redwolf: Update new logo19:19
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .___.19:19
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf I'll set up LUGITO with the new repos19:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8EE19:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 09f7b85 Redwolf: Modify licence19:38
lubot<tsimonq2> It works \o/19:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Va21:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 38acee4 Redwolf: Update README.md21:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vo21:40
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 5d915c9 Redwolf: Update README.md21:40
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vx21:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 4b96eba Redwolf: Fix some typos21:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vj21:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 208d94f Redwolf: Delete lubuntu-corporate-manual.pdf21:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8we21:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 45f134b Redwolf: Delete lubuntu-corporate-manual.sla21:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8wq21:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 2d3f289 Redwolf: Fix typos, sections and nomenclature21:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> shut up, lugito!21:48
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, Then learn to do things in one Git push :)21:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> naah, this way it looks I work hard21:51
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, is 16.04.4 about to land?21:53
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, No21:53
lubot<tsimonq2> March 1st21:53
lubot<VikingRedwolf> good21:53
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I guess you'll take care of the download links πŸ˜‰21:55
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh?21:56
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I'll be harvesting carrots that day 😐21:58
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I'm a farmer now, remember21:59
lubot<tsimonq2> haha22:11
lubot<acheronuk> what?22:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @acheronuk, yes22:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> fancy a carrot soup?22:12
lubot<acheronuk> nope!22:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I have tomato soup if you prefer22:13
lubot<acheronuk> leek and potato22:15
lubot<VikingRedwolf> not bad22:15
lubot<acheronuk> chicken + something is better22:16
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :)22:16
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2 how's kvantum packaging going?22:30
lubot<VikingRedwolf> because I think it's in the repos22:31
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, You wanted me to package that?22:31
lubot<tsimonq2> .___.22:31
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, Is it?22:31
tsimonq2!info kvantum22:31
ubot93Package kvantum does not exist in bionic22:31
lubot<VikingRedwolf> tis22:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Is it?22:31
lubot<VikingRedwolf> oh22:31
lubot<VikingRedwolf> then... DOETT!!22:36
lubot<tsimonq2> So what is Kvantum?22:37
lubot<tsimonq2> Like, is that something we have to seed?22:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> yup23:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> it's the Qt engine that will allow you to use Arc themes for Plasma / Qt / KDE apps23:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> oh, and if we're going to include SMPlayer as the video player by default, we should "wear" it in an Arc skin23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> OK23:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> because the default look is UNBEARABLE!23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Let me package it right now for you.23:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, huh? kvantum?23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> yeah23:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> and what about smplayer? would it be possible to include the Arc theme and choose it in the installation?23:04
lubot<tsimonq2> Probably, yeah23:04
lubot<VikingRedwolf> let me look for it23:08
agaidai would suggest not to use kvantum by default - to hard to configure for a normal lubuntu user23:13
tsimonq2Then what else do you suggest that works just as well?23:13
agaidaredwolf: and even for maintainers23:13
agaidanothing - a working theme23:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> arc theme for qt?23:14
agaidanope23:14
lubot<VikingRedwolf> btw, @tsimonq2, read below: https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-smplayer-theme23:14
redwolfthen, agaida?23:15
agaidahttps://github.com/lxde/lxqt/issues/1446 - see your problem here - and good luck. Oxygen works more or less, fanenza works more or less ...23:16
ubot93Issue 1446 in lxde/lxqt "Colorize Icons again" [Open]23:16
redwolficons are not the problem23:16
tsimonq2Funny enough agaida, kvantum's the only solution to that problem23:17
tsimonq2I want the problem fixed23:17
tsimonq2So simple, we use kvantum23:17
redwolfyes, we use kvantum, activate the Arc-Darker theme, and forget it right there. if any user wants to play with it'll be his problem23:18
tsimonq2right23:18
agaidanope, kvantum is a fugly workaround that will introduce far more problems - but feel free to do whatever you want to23:18
redwolflxqt is a mess itself. having a mixture of desktop widgets, qt widgets, gtk2 and gtk3 controls, plasma widgets...23:18
redwolfand you need to control each ones in a different way23:18
agaidaso - why not ignore lxqt if you are not able to handle it?23:18
redwolfoh, and window borders23:19
redwolfwhen I see Elementary and Solus, I want to cry. those two solved it by using ONE theme for everything23:19
tsimonq2Plus you expect distributions to read configuration in non-standard places23:19
tsimonq2Right, exactly23:19
agaidawindow borders are not a lxqt problem23:19
redwolfnor gtk are23:19
redwolfnor qt widgets23:19
agaidatsimonq2: handle it23:19
redwolflxqt just added another problem. why that desktop isn't able to use standard themes like budgie?23:20
agaidaredwolf: easy answer - use budgie23:20
tsimonq2agaida: I'll handle the nonstandard location of config dirs in LXQt, just letting you know that upstream is the problem :)23:20
redwolfeasy solution is creating two or three Arc themes, applying them and forget about changing them23:20
tsimonq2I'm not going to take "you like our mess or screw off" as an answer.23:20
redwolfmaybe budgie is going to be a mess once Solus 4 injects Qt code everywhere as well23:21
tsimonq2We're fixing this.23:21
redwolfyes23:21
tsimonq2I don't care what it takes.23:21
redwolfI think we're managing it pretty well23:21
tsimonq2I do too23:21
redwolfanother reason why I gave up with Box. I can't control so many widgets23:21
redwolfI'll play a bit with smplayer now to integrate it with the desktop23:22
agaidasoo cool, the better upstream then upstream - we are waiting for some fixes :D23:22
tsimonq2agaida: We'll send 'em23:22
redwolfBUT you'll have to invite us a beer, agaida. and as tsimonq2 is underage, I'll have his23:22
redwolf.___.23:22
tsimonq2We'll just have a better LXQt offering than the rest for a while, while upstream takes the usual five years to incorporate new fixes23:23
lubot<AceHW> @tsimonq2, Lol23:23
agaidayeah - better design (black) included23:23
tsimonq2We've fixed that.23:23
agaidaand the free choice of a window manager: openbox, kwin preinstalled - really impressive23:24
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Black is elegant23:24
tsimonq2But then ofc upstream's gotta mess with the openbox settings in weird ways23:24
tsimonq2agaida: yeah no, that's not intentional23:24
tsimonq2At least we don't use Xfce's WM >_>23:24
agaidaheroic23:24
agaidabtw - with some simple scripting and some additional desktop files kwin would be a nearly perfect WM for LXQt - not exactly lightweight, but ok23:27
tsimonq2Not an option since upstream decided to ditch X support entirely23:28
tsimonq2We depend on that, and eventually it will bitrot23:28
agaidaso the best current choice is xfwm4 - composing included, edge snapping, works fine with GTK - i mentiond the dead composer before - and tsujan (the driving force behind pcmanfm-qt, libfm-qt, featherpad, kvantum and many other things) use compiz as WM - also a good choice23:30
tsimonq2We can investigate others, I know compiz seems cool.23:32
agaidaand has a long LX* tradition - Knoppix rely on compiz since years23:33
tsimonq2But for now, I think for the 18.04 release, openbox will be the window manager.23:33
agaidaand please do me a favour - for gods sake, please deliver compton with a sane pre-configuration and don't take the current defaults - there is a bug open for it, but ENOTIME23:35
agaidaotherwise the first usage of compton-conf will render the desktop nearly unusable23:36

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