[12:29] @Luiz Cláudio, What's the name of this icon theme? [12:43] @StepanSkryabin, that's Numix: https://github.com/numixproject/numix-icon-theme [13:14] @VikingRedwolf, Thank you! [13:19] yw 😊 [15:07] msvenom was added by: msvenom [15:08] Jacob Hello [17:00] Ricardo was added by: Ricardo [17:01] hi someone runnig zorin? [17:22] @Ricardo, That's not what this channel is for 😉 [19:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA80o [19:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master f88971f Redwolf: Update new logo [19:19] .___. [19:24] @VikingRedwolf I'll set up LUGITO with the new repos [19:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8EE [19:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 09f7b85 Redwolf: Modify licence [19:38] It works \o/ [21:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Va [21:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 38acee4 Redwolf: Update README.md [21:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vo [21:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 5d915c9 Redwolf: Update README.md [21:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vx [21:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 4b96eba Redwolf: Fix some typos [21:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8Vj [21:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 208d94f Redwolf: Delete lubuntu-corporate-manual.pdf [21:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8we [21:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 45f134b Redwolf: Delete lubuntu-corporate-manual.sla [21:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-identity] vikingredwolf pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA8wq [21:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-identity/master 2d3f289 Redwolf: Fix typos, sections and nomenclature [21:48] shut up, lugito! [21:50] @VikingRedwolf, Then learn to do things in one Git push :) [21:51] naah, this way it looks I work hard [21:53] @tsimonq2, is 16.04.4 about to land? [21:53] @VikingRedwolf, No [21:53] March 1st [21:53] good [21:55] I guess you'll take care of the download links 😉 [21:56] Oh? [21:58] I'll be harvesting carrots that day 😐 [21:59] I'm a farmer now, remember [22:11] haha [22:12] what? [22:12] @acheronuk, yes [22:12] fancy a carrot soup? [22:13] nope! [22:13] I have tomato soup if you prefer [22:15] leek and potato [22:15] not bad [22:16] chicken + something is better [22:16] :) [22:30] @tsimonq2 how's kvantum packaging going? [22:31] because I think it's in the repos [22:31] @VikingRedwolf, You wanted me to package that? [22:31] .___. [22:31] @VikingRedwolf, Is it? [22:31] !info kvantum [22:31] Package kvantum does not exist in bionic [22:31] tis [22:31] Is it? [22:31] oh [22:36] then... DOETT!! [22:37] So what is Kvantum? [22:37] Like, is that something we have to seed? [23:01] yup [23:01] it's the Qt engine that will allow you to use Arc themes for Plasma / Qt / KDE apps [23:02] oh, and if we're going to include SMPlayer as the video player by default, we should "wear" it in an Arc skin [23:02] OK [23:02] because the default look is UNBEARABLE! [23:02] Let me package it right now for you. [23:02] @tsimonq2, huh? kvantum? [23:02] yeah [23:04] and what about smplayer? would it be possible to include the Arc theme and choose it in the installation? [23:04] Probably, yeah [23:08] let me look for it [23:13] i would suggest not to use kvantum by default - to hard to configure for a normal lubuntu user [23:13] Then what else do you suggest that works just as well? [23:13] redwolf: and even for maintainers [23:13] nothing - a working theme [23:14] arc theme for qt? [23:14] nope [23:14] btw, @tsimonq2, read below: https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-smplayer-theme [23:15] then, agaida? [23:16] https://github.com/lxde/lxqt/issues/1446 - see your problem here - and good luck. Oxygen works more or less, fanenza works more or less ... [23:16] Issue 1446 in lxde/lxqt "Colorize Icons again" [Open] [23:16] icons are not the problem [23:17] Funny enough agaida, kvantum's the only solution to that problem [23:17] I want the problem fixed [23:17] So simple, we use kvantum [23:18] yes, we use kvantum, activate the Arc-Darker theme, and forget it right there. if any user wants to play with it'll be his problem [23:18] right [23:18] nope, kvantum is a fugly workaround that will introduce far more problems - but feel free to do whatever you want to [23:18] lxqt is a mess itself. having a mixture of desktop widgets, qt widgets, gtk2 and gtk3 controls, plasma widgets... [23:18] and you need to control each ones in a different way [23:18] so - why not ignore lxqt if you are not able to handle it? [23:19] oh, and window borders [23:19] when I see Elementary and Solus, I want to cry. those two solved it by using ONE theme for everything [23:19] Plus you expect distributions to read configuration in non-standard places [23:19] Right, exactly [23:19] window borders are not a lxqt problem [23:19] nor gtk are [23:19] nor qt widgets [23:19] tsimonq2: handle it [23:20] lxqt just added another problem. why that desktop isn't able to use standard themes like budgie? [23:20] redwolf: easy answer - use budgie [23:20] agaida: I'll handle the nonstandard location of config dirs in LXQt, just letting you know that upstream is the problem :) [23:20] easy solution is creating two or three Arc themes, applying them and forget about changing them [23:20] I'm not going to take "you like our mess or screw off" as an answer. [23:21] maybe budgie is going to be a mess once Solus 4 injects Qt code everywhere as well [23:21] We're fixing this. [23:21] yes [23:21] I don't care what it takes. [23:21] I think we're managing it pretty well [23:21] I do too [23:21] another reason why I gave up with Box. I can't control so many widgets [23:22] I'll play a bit with smplayer now to integrate it with the desktop [23:22] soo cool, the better upstream then upstream - we are waiting for some fixes :D [23:22] agaida: We'll send 'em [23:22] BUT you'll have to invite us a beer, agaida. and as tsimonq2 is underage, I'll have his [23:22] .___. [23:23] We'll just have a better LXQt offering than the rest for a while, while upstream takes the usual five years to incorporate new fixes [23:23] @tsimonq2, Lol [23:23] yeah - better design (black) included [23:23] We've fixed that. [23:24] and the free choice of a window manager: openbox, kwin preinstalled - really impressive [23:24] Black is elegant [23:24] But then ofc upstream's gotta mess with the openbox settings in weird ways [23:24] agaida: yeah no, that's not intentional [23:24] At least we don't use Xfce's WM >_> [23:24] heroic [23:27] btw - with some simple scripting and some additional desktop files kwin would be a nearly perfect WM for LXQt - not exactly lightweight, but ok [23:28] Not an option since upstream decided to ditch X support entirely [23:28] We depend on that, and eventually it will bitrot [23:30] so the best current choice is xfwm4 - composing included, edge snapping, works fine with GTK - i mentiond the dead composer before - and tsujan (the driving force behind pcmanfm-qt, libfm-qt, featherpad, kvantum and many other things) use compiz as WM - also a good choice [23:32] We can investigate others, I know compiz seems cool. [23:33] and has a long LX* tradition - Knoppix rely on compiz since years [23:33] But for now, I think for the 18.04 release, openbox will be the window manager. [23:35] and please do me a favour - for gods sake, please deliver compton with a sane pre-configuration and don't take the current defaults - there is a bug open for it, but ENOTIME [23:36] otherwise the first usage of compton-conf will render the desktop nearly unusable