[10:18] fossfreedom_: Mind if I pick your brain? Simple question =D Will UB 18.04 have the minimal install option? :) [19:00] mpmc, the announcement of a minimal install option came a bit too late for use to-do something - 18.04 freeze is in a couple of weeks and there isnt enough time to understand what it is, how to implement it, test etc etc [19:00] s/use/us/ [20:27] Hi [20:27] Anyone able to assist me ? [20:27] I have a problem with installing [20:27] Its stuck on the loading splash for the last hour [20:28] iNeedHealing, how far through the installation process are you? [20:30] I just said its stuck on splash screen [20:30] That would mean I'm not far past pressing the on button [20:30] after installation on the reboot - or you just booting the USB for the first time? [20:31] I'm just bottling the USB for the first tine [20:31] Time [20:31] Booting [20:32] press esc - it should switch to text mode - what is the last couple of lines that you see? [20:32] Nothing happens [20:32] please describe the splash screen - want to know if you booting UEFI or bios [20:33] Its like Ubuntu's been for years [20:33] Except its purple-blue with Budgie logo [20:33] k - that is a bios boot [20:33] The 5 dots are there and stuck with all 5 on [20:33] Could have just asked if bios or uefi [20:34] is this 17.10? [20:34] It's the latest available so yes probably [20:34] Not 1604 [20:34] what is the m5 hash value of the iso? [20:35] I'll check [20:38] I have a picture [20:40] https://i.imgur.com/XgP0Su0.jpg [20:41] k - look at the top of the picture [20:43] Yes? [20:43] you have windows in hibernation - you can't install that way [20:44] I don't, I just installed Ubuntu 17.10 [20:45] well that's the message the installer is saying - you need to resolve that first. [20:45] Well I've not booted any other OS since installing Ubuntu [20:45] you have windows also installed? [20:46] Yes, and wouldn't it have affected my Ubuntu and arch install too? [20:47] At the moment the installer is looking at your NTFS partition for whatever reason - you need to boot back into windows, turn off quick boot/hibernation and shutdown windows cleanly [20:47] I remember I had this problem mounting NTFS in Arch and I resolves that months ago [20:47] Its already turned off [20:48] I'll send a pic of my windows power settings [20:50] https://i.imgur.com/Fv5q9Rg.jpg [20:50] my phone died, I'm on my laptop now [20:52] I should also note that I don't get option to try Budgie like I do in 17.10 [20:52] it's buggy on the choosing screen [20:53] is this your issue with windows ? https://superuser.com/questions/1010084/windows-is-hibernated-refused-to-mount-but-fast-startup-is-disabled-on-window [20:53] I don't have an issue with windows, all my other Linux installs went perfectly and I can mount/operate on my NTFS drives with ease [20:54] I used to have that issue months ago which is now resolves [20:54] you were getting me the md5 hash for the ISO - what is it? [20:54] I already checked and it's the same as on the website [20:54] I can boot back into Windows and check again [20:59] it should be noted that when I switch to text boot I get complaints of GPU lockup and it freezes after/while loading services [21:00] it's stuck after/in systemd-hostnamed.service [21:08] well looks like I will definitely not be supporting this distro seeing as it doesn't even want to install [21:09] how do you even release something that doesn't work [21:10] ENOTTY errors like really [21:31] Is there an LP project tracking Budgie-specific bugs? specifically the (ubiquity) installer mods? [21:32] TJ-, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug [21:34] fossfreedom_: Yes, I know that, but I'm looking for specifics for the budgie installer. I'm helping a user who is suffering problems with the 17.10 budgie install that don't affect vanilla ubuntu [21:34] TJ-, apart from the cosmetics - the installer is exactly the same [21:35] Hmmm, that's reassuring, thanks. Makes identifying the cause more difficult though :) [21:36] what's the issue TJ- ? [21:39] fossfreedom_: symptom is apparently related to GPU, getting a "NOTTY" error which doesn't affect the /Ubuntu/ 17.10 installer. User confirmed they'd verified the ISO and did the on-media verification check so unlikely to be installer corruption. [21:41] hmm - regular Ubuntu and UB share the same graphical components TJ- i.e. mutter - so yeah - very odd that there are differences - the screenshot the OP gave just now had windows hibernation cannot mount issues [21:42] That's pretty much expected though; the partition/file-system scan shouldn't affect it. [21:43] I've suggested they use the Ubuntu 17.10 install and then "apt install ubuntu-budgie-desktop" so might not get any further data on this [21:44] TJ-, well - thats a reasonable approach [21:46] I've been hacking on ubiquity for over 10 years so I was hoping to get enough data to figure out the cause and a fix :) [21:47] ah - 10 years?! wow. dedication - congrats :)