| Donnut | Could someone tell me what the difference is between Ubuntu Unity and Gnome desktop environment is? | 00:39 |
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| jbicha | robert_ancell: hi, are you going to work on the gnome-software 3.27.90 update for bionic? | 21:31 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, I'm not sure if we're switching to 3.28 or staying on 3.26. Was waiting for kenvandine[m][m] to decide. | 21:43 |
| jbicha | have you been using the new version yet? | 21:44 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, I've been developing against master | 21:44 |
| jbicha | what are + and - of the new version? | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | Not sure, haven't really been involved in the version discussions. | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | But I'm happy to do the update | 21:48 |
| jbicha | if you have time, it might be useful to try it out in a PPA | 21:51 |
| jbicha | I just packaged the update for Debian experimental | 21:52 |
| fossfreedom_ | jbicha, just threw a PR at budgie-desktop to adapt to the latest gnome-settings-daemon that's in the staging PPA. From the comments on the issue you raised Ikey may not be in a hurry to merge until 3.28 goes stable. | 22:07 |
| fossfreedom_ | if you want we can patch this in sooner rather than later. let me know. | 22:07 |
| jbicha | sorry, I didn't ping you yet that it was in the PPA | 22:09 |
| fossfreedom_ | no worries - I was browsing and I noticed you had pushed it in. So was playing. | 22:10 |
| jbicha | there will be another mutter soname bump | 22:10 |
| jbicha | I hope it will land and there will be a tarball release really soon | 22:10 |
| jbicha | it's really bad that mutter & gnome-shell haven't released a tarball since October | 22:11 |
| fossfreedom_ | I haven't been keeping track with mutter development - any NEWS links or similar that summarised what's in for 3.28? | 22:12 |
| jbicha | mutter is related because I don't think it makes sense to update gnome-settings-daemon without mutter (my understanding is that the dropped g-s-d plugin was implemented in mutter) | 22:13 |
| jbicha | there isn't much of a NEWS file yet since they haven't been doing releases! :( | 22:14 |
| jbicha | maybe it's a Red Hat conspiracy so that Ubuntu won't get the latest GNOME before Fedora 😉 | 22:16 |
| fossfreedom_ | hehe | 22:16 |
| jbicha | like last week, gnome-settings-daemon 3.27.90 was released | 22:17 |
| jbicha | but it wasn't buildable. Once you cherry-picked the fix for that, you'd be left wondering why GNOME won't start after rebooting | 22:18 |
| jbicha | you need another cherry-picked patch to fix that | 22:18 |
| jbicha | a distro developer complained about that on Friday and was told the g-s-d maintainers were too busy fixing bugs to make releases | 22:18 |
| fossfreedom_ | hmm - time pressures I imagine - trying to make the release date | 22:19 |
| jbicha | cynically, it looks like the g-s-d maintainer is wasting the time of other distros though… | 22:20 |
| jbicha | on the other hand, the guy doing releases isn't supposed to be doing releases as he turned over responsibility to someone else (who got a different job or something) | 22:22 |
| jbicha | and Red Hat is hiring someone to basically be the gnome-control-center maintainer instead | 22:22 |
| fossfreedom_ | sounds like very good news. They seem to have deep pockets at the moment. | 22:23 |
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