[00:00] <davidw93> Right, so I'm pretty sure I'm overthinking this; regardless, here's my thought process
[00:00] <davidw93> Most of the server config I do as root, but using ssh or git as root is kind of a pain
[00:00] <davidw93> If I give non-root permissions to /srv/git, I open up other people on the server to changing this (which I don't necessarily want)
[00:00] <davidw93> I could restrict access to my account, but this just feels somewhat unclean given that everything else is done as root
[00:01] <davidw93> Again, probably overthinking this
[00:10] <babaganoosh> dang......you have to be registered to  use ##linux
[00:11] <bazhang> babaganoosh, ask on #freenode how to do that
[00:11] <spectacular> hello, recently installed ubuntu studio 17.10 on my laptop. it's got horrible lag/ choppiness. It feels to me that it's something to do with the video, i.e. the mouse doesn't respond right away or stops while i'm moving it and then jumps. but i get it from typing text too, the text doesn't appear on the screen right away. i've googled a lot and did what everyone recommends, switching to propriety nvidia drivers, but that hasn't fixed it. anyone know
[00:11] <spectacular>  what this is and how to fix it? should i downgrade to 17.04, or try 18.04? or is there another easy fix?
[00:11] <bazhang> spectacular, there are no downgrades, and 18.04 is not released
[00:11] <babaganoosh> thanks....I am too impatient and lazy to bother :-)
[00:13] <babaganoosh> 17.10 has been sluggish for me, but not to the degree you describe
[00:13] <DiecastMessiah> spectacular: do you know if its a primus type of machine like have a intel and a nvidia chip
[00:14] <spectacular> DiecastMessiah, it's an MSI i7  laptop
[00:14] <spectacular> bazhang, I know, i'd have to reisntall 17.04 if i couldn't get this to work decently.
[00:15] <spectacular> bazhang, and 18.04 is available on the ubuntu website
[00:15] <bazhang> spectacular, thats end of life, why would you do that
[00:16] <spectacular> bazhang, i'd rather not, obviously. but my computer isn't really usable in its current state
[00:17] <bazhang> spectacular, being eol means no support here
[00:17] <bazhang> spectacular, 18.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <spectacular> bazhang, for the moment i'm hoping for help getting 17.10 to work as it should
[00:20] <Outy> spectacular: sounds like a bad harddrive
[00:21] <spectacular> Outy, i doubt that. it worked fine before i put 17.10 on it
[00:21] <Outy> spectacular: i know it sounds ridiculous but if hard drive locks due to read/write errors it stalls the whole system like ur description
[00:22] <spectacular> any way to test taht?
[00:22] <spectacular> Outy, that*
[00:22] <Outy> spectacular: one sec pls
[00:24] <Outy> spectacular: try sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda
[00:26] <Outy> spectacular: try sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda      for more infos. especially realloc. sector count or crc erro count
[00:27] <spectacular> Outy, ok. i had to install it. did the first one. what exactly do you want to see there? it says 'passed'
[00:27] <Outy> spectacular:  sda is your first hard drive here  ... use sdb sdc sdd for any further harddrives
[00:27] <spectacular> i believe it's only using sda
[00:28] <Outy> spectacular: try sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda      for more infos. especially realloc. sector count or crc erro count
[00:28] <spectacular> do we have a pastbin here?
[00:28] <Outy> spectacular: should be both 0
[00:29] <DiecastMessiah> for fun if the harddrive seems fine.. try 'glxgears' to see if 3d acc is working
[00:29] <Outy> spectacular: for glxgears  install mesa-utils
[00:31] <spectacular> i have mesa-utils apparently. glxgears returns an error. "xlib: extension "glx" missing on display ":0.0".  Error: couldn't get an RGB, double-buffered visual"
[00:31] <Outy> spectacular: deinstall nvidia drivers
[00:31] <spectacular> that's just running glxgears from mterminal, which i assumed was what you were suggesting
[00:31] <DiecastMessiah> yeah the drivers are not working right
[00:31] <Outy> spectacular: we had this a few hours ago with another user here
[00:31] <Outy> spectacular: are you on lubuntu ???
[00:32] <DiecastMessiah> yes it a test to see if open-gl is working or really the video drivers
[00:32] <spectacular> Outy, this is ubuntu studio. with xfce4
[00:33] <Outy> spectacular: deinstall drivers use standard nouveau drivers
[00:33] <spectacular> ok doing that
[00:34] <spectacular> reboot to test?
[00:34] <Outy> spectacular: logoff logon should do it
[00:34] <spectacular> it's going to have the same problem though, because when i first installed it was set to nouveau and it was lagging horribly
[00:34] <spectacular> Outy, ok, brb
[00:36] <spectacular> Outy, i'm back. same problem, possibly slightly worse
[00:36] <Outy> spectacular: are you on laptop ?
[00:36] <spectacular> Outy, yes
[00:37] <Outy> spectacular: is it with nvidia optimus ?
[00:37] <spectacular> oh btw glxgears works now
[00:37] <DiecastMessiah> msi i7 he said... but what model.. i don;t think optimus but i'll search for yas
[00:37] <spectacular> it's nvidia gtx
[00:38] <spectacular> nvidia geforce gtx
[00:38] <spectacular> the laptop is msi gl6 ms-16j5
[00:38] <DiecastMessiah> optimus is just the setup of the machine they use intel and nvidia chips// meant to save battary power when you not using 3d acc
[00:39] <Outy> spectacular: maybe this could help??? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee   cause i don't know if your ubuntu media version is demanding drivers that wont work on ur machine
[00:40] <Outy> spectacular: but dont use . im not sure if you're on an optimus system
[00:40] <spectacular> Outy, ok, other suggestions?
[00:41] <Outy> spectacular: not right now... but we know now that its a driver prob
[00:43] <DiecastMessiah> yeah it an optimus
[00:44] <Outy> so bumblebee could work here
[00:44] <DiecastMessiah> try installing bumblebee but if that doesn;t do it no idea what lease to try
[00:44] <Outy> spectacular: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:45] <DiecastMessiah> darn i maybe worng
[00:45] <Outy> its worth a test
[00:46] <spectacular> you sure about that? apt wants to install a whole bunch of i386 things with that
[00:48] <Outy> spectacular: never done that. never had nvidia optimus. try at your own risk ;)
[00:48] <DiecastMessiah> well the msi gl6 6QF has optimus but cannto find 16j5 maybe it does or doesn;t
[00:48] <spectacular> shrug. i'll give it a try then
[00:48] <DiecastMessiah> i have but my machine is an i3 with a 310M nvidia chip
[00:49] <DiecastMessiah> if it is bumblebee did everything for me
[00:49] <DiecastMessiah> its installing the nvidia drivers and everything
[00:50] <paul_> eh
[00:50] <DiecastMessiah> but if it doesn;t work i think you can remove it with no problems
[00:50] <paul_> free bsd, is the shit to me
[00:50] <paul_> linux, stick it up in ur ass, you get me?
[00:51] <Bashing-om> spectacular: 17.10 defaults to wayland . try the Xorg session: https://itsfoss.com/switch-xorg-wayland/ as wayand dooes not get along too well with nividia .
[00:51] <Outy> paul_: i get it ^^
[00:53] <Outy> 17.10 is wayland? i didn't know that... thank god im on 16.04 lts
[00:53] <spectacular> Bashing-om, i have xorg. ubuntu studio or xfce4 - one or the other - doesn't use wayland. not sure why.
[00:53] <spectacular> but in any case, i'm still on xorg.
[00:53] <spectacular> ok bumblebee's installed, i'm gonna reboot. brb
[00:54] <paul_> I'm moving to Ubuntu when 18.04 comes out, because mint isn't adopting wayland and I want in
[00:55] <Sven_vB> how come Ubuntu manages to ship with good graphics drivers for my semi-ancient ATI cards but has lots of troubles with my nVidia cards of similar age?
[00:55] <Sven_vB> installing nouveau-firmware even lead to worse resolution. :D
[00:55] <bazhang> Sven_vB, thats on nvidia not ubuntu
[00:56] <bazhang> Sven_vB, contact them and find out
[00:56] <Sven_vB> bazhang, would that mean the on other side, it's ATI's work that makes it "just work"?
[00:57] <Sven_vB> *on the
[00:57] <bazhang> Sven_vB, which amd card are you talking about
[00:58] <tomcres> Sven_vB, funny thing is I had the complete opposite experience. I tried opensuse, fedora, debian, and ubuntu and only debian and ubuntu were able to work with my GTX 550 Ti. I was actually impressed with the way ubuntu handled the proprietary driver. That's why I stuck with it.
[00:58] <Sven_vB> [AMD/ATI] 264VT [Mach64 VT] (rev 40)
[00:59] <Sven_vB> sounds like it's a bit of a roulette which cards will be supported-by-default for how long
[01:00] <Sven_vB> is it a license issue, a non-disclosure issue, or just how much effort which vendor invests into which linux distro?
[01:01] <bazhang> Sven_vB, the whys and wherefores are a chat channel topic
[01:01] <bazhang> perhaps #ubuntu-discuss Sven_vB
[01:02] <Sven_vB> ok, I'll ask there then.
[01:02] <bazhang> thanks
[01:02] <stvn> i need to master the free software
[01:03] <bazhang> !rute | stvn
[01:03] <bazhang> start with those stvn
[01:03] <stvn> ty
[01:03] <bazhang> welcome
[01:08] <spectacular> well that was "interesting"... trying to install bumblebee broke the whole thing
[01:09] <spectacular> i had to boot from my install usb, which fortunately i still have
[01:09] <spectacular> got stuck right after the grub screen before doing anything.
[01:11] <spectacular> Outy, DiecastMessiah, are you guys still around?
[01:11] <DiecastMessiah> darn sorry man.
[01:11] <spectacular> i need to remember how to recover while booted up from the usb.  chroot, right?
[01:11] <spectacular> been a while since i've done that.
[01:12] <spectacular> although before i do any of that, i may be able to figure out what was going wrong to begin with.  because i'm noticing that booted up from the usb i'm not having the lag problems.
[01:12] <spectacular> so, if it actually was something to do with the hard drive, maybe i should try reinstalling doing a full wipe-out and reformat of that hard drive.
[01:12] <DiecastMessiah> i think you could fix it from the console termial. with the right commands
[01:13] <grkblood13> I have a 32GB SSD that got formatted weird and now I can only see 3.8 GB of it. How do I fix this?
[01:14] <grkblood13> I tried dding if with /dev/zero but it only goes up to the 3.8 GBs
[01:15] <DiecastMessiah> if you going to do a full reinstall i would say go with 16.04 .. but i think you cannot remove all the bumblebee stuff and nvidia drivers from the recovery console
[01:15] <spectacular> you'd recommend 16.04 over one of the 17's?
[01:16] <spectacular> also please answer me this - why when booting from the usb there's no lag problem.  a few more details: in order to get it to do this i need to use 'nomodeset' from the additional options in the boot screen when booting from the usb.
[01:16] <spectacular> i guess that was just one more detail. i don't remember what the other details were.
[01:16] <spectacular> :)
[01:19] <Outy> spectacular: go with 16.04 im too tired right now for debugging *mesleepy*
[01:19] <DiecastMessiah> well i am a newbie but i think LST like 16.04 is better for newer users because its more stable.. 17 is new and is only supported for 9 months.. all the bugs are not worked out.. so unless you really know what you are doing ..like me better to stay away from
[01:19] <Outy> spectacular: chrootig should work but 16.04 is a good idea
[01:19] <spectacular> oh, yes. I do believe you all when you say there's something wrong with the nvidia stuff, because of the following:  before I installed 17.10, I had 18.04 installed. yes, it's a pre-release. yes, i know. i probably shouldn't have done that. but, it was working absolutely great until friday morning, when the computer asked me to upgrade software ('partial upgrade' - probably a bad sign, in retrospect) , and i let it do it. it then asked me to reboot
[01:19] <spectacular> to finish the installation, and on reboot i couldn't get into the gui. poking around in the logs, it appeared to be an nvidia thing.  i tried everything, and nothing would fix it, and the people in the #ubuntu+1 channel gave me hell for trying a prerelease version without knowing what i was doing.
[01:20] <bazhang> spectacular, thats the channel to keep it in, not here
[01:20] <spectacular> bazhang, you haven't read what i wrote
[01:21] <bazhang> spectacular, sure I did
[01:21] <spectacular> anyway, I guess I'll take your guys recommendations and switch it back to 16.04
[01:21] <DiecastMessiah> he is on 17.10 he was only saying he tried 18.04
[01:22] <Outy> bazhang: you're rigth but pls let him speak it's still a ubuntu help conversation here
[01:22] <darkdrgn2k4> hi
[01:22] <bazhang> Outy, you are welcome to join #ubuntu+1 , it
[01:22] <darkdrgn2k4> any one know dev is mount durring "/etc/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-bottom"
[01:22] <spectacular> bazhang, Outy, i'm not on 18.04, that was just my history
[01:22] <bazhang> not topical here until release Outy
[01:23] <spectacular> i'm not on 18.04 what is going on here?
[01:23] <Outy> no prob
[01:23] <Outy> spectacular: ok so like we mentioned pls try 16.04
[01:23] <bazhang> spectacular, no need for your history like that, you've decided on a 16.04 install, thats great
[01:24] <Outy> bazhang: ah ok didn't know that - sorry
[01:27] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: pls be more precise about what you're trying to achieve or what you wanna do... what is the question here ?
[01:27] <darkdrgn2k4> im workign on modifying an overlay script to mount a partition instead of tmpfs
[01:28] <darkdrgn2k4> https://github.com/jacobalberty/root-ro/blob/e8dda1dd8f6df16b0a37e4609ae2696df01986ad/root-ro#L196
[01:28] <darkdrgn2k4> specificly that linme
[01:28] <darkdrgn2k4> its run as part of init
[01:28] <darkdrgn2k4> can i replace tmpfs with like /dev/mmcp0b3
[01:28] <darkdrgn2k4> uhh /dev/mmcblk0p3
[01:28] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: i don't know much about that but now we can imagine ... maybe somebody can help with that
[01:29] <darkdrgn2k4> question was, durring init portion of the boot is /dev mounted
[01:29] <spectacular> downloading 16.04
[01:29] <Outy> spectacular: =)
[01:29] <darkdrgn2k4> or how i can get some logs back (i dont have a terminal to see the logs)
[01:31] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: i'm not 1337 at linux but tmpfs is specified in fstab, but it could be im misunderstanding your prob here
[01:31] <darkdrgn2k4> Outy,  tmpfs can be mounted anywhere its a quick wya to make a ramdisk
[01:31] <darkdrgn2k4> the concept of the overlay was to write all chagned to a ramdisk across the os. so every reboot is a "clean slatE"
[01:33] <owen1> I am trying to erase the content of my usb drive. i run this command sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4k && sync but i get 'dd: error writing '/dev/sdc': No space left on device'. any tips?
[01:34] <owen1> (i don't mind a complete format btw)
[01:34] <Outy> owen1: broken usb drive
[01:34] <ulysses> How do you set a theme for Flatpak apps in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <darkdrgn2k4> isnt that by design
[01:35] <strive> owen1: That will fill up the drive it seems; not erase it?
[01:35] <owen1> strive: oh...how do i erase it?
[01:35] <darkdrgn2k4> cause /dev/zero is endless and it will eventualy run out of space
[01:35] <darkdrgn2k4> since oyu dont have a count= paramater
[01:35] <owen1> Outy: i can use that drive so i don't think it's broken
[01:35] <Outy> strive: yes it will fill it with 0 zeroes
[01:35] <owen1> strive: i am following this guide: https://askubuntu.com/questions/198065/how-to-format-a-usb-drive
[01:35] <Outy> owen1:
[01:36] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, it just means it reached the end and cant go any further
[01:36] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, AKA it completed the task
[01:36] <Outy> owen1: syntax is right
[01:36] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: oh. sweet
[01:36] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1: you can check by doing hexdump /dev/sdc
[01:36] <darkdrgn2k4> you will see  00000 00000 00 ... one line
[01:36] <darkdrgn2k4> if you only see one line that means the next like is also 0 and the one after that etc.
[01:36] <owen1> yup!
[01:37] <owen1> one line only
[01:37] <darkdrgn2k4> if there was anything other then 00 it would write it out
[01:37] <darkdrgn2k4> (if you want to wait till the end to make sure0
[01:37] <owen1> 0000000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
[01:37] <Outy> owen1: ok so it took some time untlis this message... then its not broken... next time add status=progress to commandline
[01:37] <owen1> *
[01:37] <owen1> got it
[01:37] <darkdrgn2k4> personal yi like ddresuce :P
[01:37] <darkdrgn2k4> its prittier
[01:39] <owen1> so my usb stick is not empty yet. it's just filled with 000
[01:39] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: ddrescue is for rescue ^^
[01:39] <spectacular> ok dumb question here for you Outy, so sorry in advance... but since it's gonna take another 30 minutes on the download anyway just thought I'd ask... so if i'm booting on the live usb and it seems to be working nicely, would running the 'install ubuntu' thing that's located here on the desktop install it with all the current, working settings? or not necessarily, and i'll just end up with the same problems as before?
[01:39] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, well what you consider empty?
[01:39] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, 0 is "null"
[01:39] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: 0 is empty
[01:39] <darkdrgn2k4> Outy,  yes but its prittier
[01:39] <Outy> owen1: 0 is totally empty it will not get any emptier ^^
[01:40] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, if you want to USE it it cant be "empty" it needs a filesystem on it
[01:40] <owen1> i guess i want to get rid of the partitions as well. so i should format it
[01:40] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, kida like if you go to a library and its an empty room you really cant find a book.. you need shelves and stuff
[01:40] <owen1> sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
[01:40] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, fdisk???
[01:40] <owen1> yeah.
[01:40] <darkdrgn2k4> so now make a partition
[01:40] <darkdrgn2k4> and format it
[01:41] <Outy> owen1: use gparted its a gui
[01:41] <owen1> i am going to hit 'o'
[01:41] <owen1> for DOS
[01:41] <darkdrgn2k4> id use c :P
[01:41] <darkdrgn2k4> n
[01:41] <darkdrgn2k4> p
[01:42] <darkdrgn2k4> 1 c enter etner ente neter
[01:42] <darkdrgn2k4> i think
[01:42] <owen1> wait, i should not hit 'o'?
[01:43] <owen1> i think i want ext4 as file system
[01:43] <owen1> it's just a storage device. usb stick.
[01:43] <Outy> spectacular: sometimes you can uncheck "install updates" in background during install, so everything should run smooth
[01:43] <darkdrgn2k4> the 82
[01:44] <darkdrgn2k4> i think its
[01:44] <darkdrgn2k4> n p 1 82 enter enter enter w q
[01:44] <darkdrgn2k4> then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[01:44] <spectacular> Outy, ah. so, then i'd never be able to do upgrades unless i wanted to risk breaking my system.  then again i'm not sure why i'd do upgrades ever again, once i get a system working the way i like it i should just stay with that until i have a compelling reason to upgrade.
[01:46] <Outy> spectacular: but you could just do a backup before updating... im using the free veeam for linux. its very good and very fast
[01:46] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: what's 82? the question is First sector (2048-30031249, default 2048)
[01:46] <darkdrgn2k4> type
[01:46] <darkdrgn2k4> for sectors just push enter
[01:46] <darkdrgn2k4> it will create a full-disk size one
[01:46] <Outy> spectacular: you should read the man (pdf) and try it =)
[01:46] <spectacular> Outy, got a link?
[01:47] <Outy> spectacular: https://www.veeam.com/linux-backup-free.html
[01:48] <Outy> spectacular: it will make a 1:1 image of our system and supports incemental backups (snapshots) etc
[01:48] <spectacular> very cool. thanks!
[01:48] <Outy> spectacular: you have to register to download... but thats all
[01:49] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: before i continue, can you take a look at the drive i am trying to format? it's sdc - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KwK3sMDzVJ/
[01:49] <spectacular> i'm also thinking that this time around i will keep my home directory as its own separate partition, so that when i do installs or upgrades etc i won't have to touch that
[01:49] <Outy> spectacular: be sure to read the manual before using
[01:49] <owen1> i am not sure if i should hit 'n' at first since n means add a new partition
[01:49] <Outy> spectacular: sounds good
[01:49] <darkdrgn2k4> sdc looks wierd :P
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> what do you want to do
[01:50] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: i installed bootable ubuntu on it.
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> now you want to wipe it?
[01:50] <owen1> i want to delete everything and use my usb as a storage.
[01:50] <owen1> yes
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> ok
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> so just fidks it
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> n p 1
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> when it askes for type do 82
[01:50] <darkdrgn2k4> evverythign else enter
[01:51] <darkdrgn2k4> then w q  to write and quit
[01:51] <owen1> after the 1
[01:51] <owen1> should i hit w?
[01:51] <darkdrgn2k4> n - new
[01:51] <darkdrgn2k4> p - primary
[01:51] <Outy> owen1: wouldn't it be better to simply use GPARTED?
[01:51] <owen1> i did n, p, 1, enter, enter
[01:51] <darkdrgn2k4> 1 - first partition (if it asks you)
[01:51] <pp00010101> Outy: I got this splash screen working :D my boot partition is not mounted at system /boot and that was why update-initramfs was not making any changes. $ sudo update-initramfs -u -k all -b <mount_point> did the trick.
[01:51] <owen1> it asked for first and last sector so i hit enter on both
[01:51] <darkdrgn2k4> what does l in fdisk show
[01:51] <owen1> and i see: Created a new partition 1 of type 'Linux' and of size 14.3 GiB.
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> sorry
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> p
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> ok goot
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> w and q
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> to write and quit
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> then mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> and your done
[01:52] <owen1> Re-reading the partition table failed.: Device or resource busy
[01:52] <owen1> i need to unmount?
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> it shoudltn be mounted lOl
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> unplug it plug it back in
[01:52] <darkdrgn2k4> sometimes the partition table is not reread properly
[01:52] <Outy> pp00010101: wow glad to hear that. congrats =)
[01:52] <owen1> i have something that automount
[01:53] <owen1> let me unmount manualy
[01:53] <Outy> pp00010101: write that down somewhere
[01:53] <darkdrgn2k4> it wont mount cause it has no filesystem on it
[01:53] <Outy> pp00010101: maybe i'll need that too in future
[01:55] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: lsblk show me this: sdc              8:32   1  14.3G  0 disk
[01:55] <Outy> pp00010101: so it was just not standard where your boot partition was and you pointed it out in the cmdline
[01:55] <owen1> └─sdc1           8:33   1  14.3G  0 part
[01:55] <owen1> should i run fdisk again?
[01:55] <darkdrgn2k4> why?
[01:55] <Outy> owen1: no gparted
[01:55] <Outy> ^^
[01:56] <darkdrgn2k4> looks liek you have a partition
[01:56] <owen1> last time i run it i got error and i had to unmount it first
[01:56] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: ok
[01:56] <owen1> so mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[01:56] <owen1> ?
[01:56] <darkdrgn2k4> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1
[01:56] <owen1> ok
[01:56] <darkdrgn2k4> as long as sdc is the drive lol
[01:56] <Outy> *singing*  gpaaarted is your friend my friend... yeaahhh *lol*
[01:56] <owen1> yup
[01:56] <owen1> Outy: ahhaha
[01:56] <darkdrgn2k4> Outy, sure if you want it to take the LONGway!
[01:57] <owen1> now i see: ─sdc1         8:33   1  14.3G  0 part  /media/oren/74144c28-b4fc-4dea-b058-757d327502dc
[01:57] <darkdrgn2k4> waiting for a gui to start up.. moving your mouse away from the keyboard to move the mouse..
[01:57] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: is he on terminal only ?
[01:57] <darkdrgn2k4> Outy, dose it matter? its still invovles the mouse.. its slow :P
[01:57] <pp00010101> Outy: yes, it was just that simple. Internal issue ;). Funny thing is I was not aware of this, I must have messed up during instalation.
[01:57] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: ^^ okay okay do it your ways =)
[01:58] <darkdrgn2k4> Outy: haha yeh well serves me right for trying to do it the shell way with him.. shoul dhave just kepy my mout shut :P
[01:59] <darkdrgn2k4> owen1, sounds liek your up
[01:59] <Outy> darkdrgn2k4: i like shell too... but explaining every step is pita
[01:59] <darkdrgn2k4> yeh
[01:59] <darkdrgn2k4> i hate shell when you have no console ot it
[01:59] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: yes but i can create a folder inside. it's owned by root
[01:59] <darkdrgn2k4> stupid pi wont come back up!
[02:00] <Budgii> Anyone ever tried Pop!_os?
[02:00] <darkdrgn2k4> chown bla.bla  ??
[02:00] <darkdrgn2k4> remmber you formated it ext4   so linux ruels appy
[02:00] <spectacular> Outy, do we still recommend having a swap partition or are those passe?
[02:00] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: do i need to do it every time i insert it to the laptop or just once?
[02:00] <darkdrgn2k4> i think just once
[02:01] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: ok. and how do i give it a nice name?
[02:01] <Outy> spectacular: i always do a swap partiton despite how much ram i got
[02:01] <darkdrgn2k4> ummm i donno..
[02:01] <spectacular> Outy, how much space should it be given?
[02:01] <Outy> spectacular: you never know when it will come in handy
[02:02] <Outy> spectacular: 1.5 tomes ram
[02:02] <Outy> times
[02:02] <darkdrgn2k4> e2label i think
[02:02] <darkdrgn2k4> e2label /dev/sdc1 AAAAAAAAACHOOOOO
[02:02] <spectacular> Outy, what command can i use to check how much ram i have? lspci?
[02:02] <Outy> spectacular: so for 8192MB of ram its 12288mb of swap
[02:03] <Outy> spectacular: free -h
[02:03] <owen1> darkdrgn2k4: thanks. everything works
[02:04] <spectacular> i've got 11G... so I want like 16G swap?
[02:04] <Outy> spectacular: when there is like 7,6gb you got the 8gb or 8192 of physical ram for example
[02:04] <Outy> spectacular: 18432mb if ur ok with that
[02:05] <spectacular> shrug it's a 128GB SSD. and I have two other internal hard drives with 1 and 2 TB
[02:05] <darkdrgn2k4> owne1: in the future just go into fdisk and do d to delete all the partition  :P
[02:06] <spectacular> so  i can afford the 18432 i guess.
[02:06] <spectacular> and would you recommend around 30gb for the ubuntu system, and then the rest for home dir?
[02:06] <Outy> spectacular: others would recommend no swap at all with this much ram, but as i said... you never know. maybe you will edit 4k vids in future and exceed ram usage
[02:07] <bazhang> spectacular, 30gb for root is super generous
[02:07] <spectacular> bazhang, what would be normal? that's going to get all the /var /usr etc too just not home
[02:07] <bazhang> spectacular, even were you to install nearly ever package which it around 40gb
[02:08] <redrapscallion> so my wifi is neither working on Ubuntu and when
[02:08] <redrapscallion> I try the live USB
[02:08] <bazhang> spectacular, you really should let the installer handle it, the days or a separate var etc and so on are long past
[02:09] <redrapscallion> is there a possibility that I just actually just a hardware problem?
[02:09] <spectacular> bazhang, i just want to keep home separate so next time i have to reinstall i won't have to worry about all the files in home
[02:09] <spectacular> , settings et
[02:09] <spectacular> c
[02:09] <bazhang> spectacular, you could install etckeeper for one, then a /home
[02:10] <bazhang> redrapscallion, we'd need to know the wifi chipset and other details
[02:10] <Outy> redrapscallion: do lspci in terminal and paste your wireless lan device
[02:10] <bazhang> unless it's usb, then it would be lsusb
[02:11] <Outy> yeah
[02:11] <redrapscallion> I have the same errors in dmesg (for both ubuntu and the live CD of ubuntu) which is that iwlwifi failed to wake NIC for hcmd
[02:11] <spectacular> bazhang, i don't understand etckeeper... just looking for a decent size for / please
[02:11] <redrapscallion> my network controller is Intel Corporation Wireless 3165 (rev 79)
[02:12] <xangua> spectacular: that depends on how much space you have available for Ubuntu
[02:12] <bazhang> around 20gb spectacular
[02:12] <spectacular> bazhang, great, thanks
[02:12] <bazhang> !info etckeeper | spectacular
[02:13] <bazhang> spectacular, etckeeper is a package for what you were referring to earlier see above
[02:13] <Outy> redrapscallion: this could help maybe: https://askubuntu.com/questions/713742/wireless-card-firmware-intel-3165-iwlwifi-only-available-for-kernel-4-1-any
[02:13] <Budgii> I'm trying to format a jump drive and i'm getting an error: This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; please reinitialize layout of the whole device. (udisks-error-quark, 11)
[02:13] <Budgii> Any suggestions?
[02:14] <redrapscallion> Outy: my wifi isn't working, so I won't be able to apt-get / wget anything
[02:14] <redrapscallion> would it be possible that a clean re-install of Ubuntu (wiping everything) might fix my WiFi issue?
[02:14] <Outy> redrapscallion: can you connect to lan while doing this ?
[02:14] <redrapscallion> or would that just do nothing at all
[02:15] <redrapscallion> Outy: well, it turns out that my computer freezes if I don't disable networking
[02:16] <Outy> redrapscallion: did it ever work / worked before updates
[02:16] <redrapscallion> it just spams "iwlwifi : Failed to wake NIC for hcmd" and everything completely freezes
[02:16] <redrapscallion> it worked for like 6 months, but then it broke about a month ago.
[02:16] <spectacular> ok trying to boot the new usb. wish me luck
[02:16] <redrapscallion> I already tried switching kernel versions
[02:16] <Outy> spectacular: luck =)
[02:19] <redrapscallion> Outy: I
[02:19] <redrapscallion> Outy: I'll just try reinstalling and see if that fixes anything
[02:19] <Budgii> What's that OS loader program called.. I just used it a few weeks ago for linux.
[02:19] <Budgii> seems like it has a G in it.
[02:19] <Outy> redrapscallion: until you have working internet on this machine there will be no simple way to help you out
[02:19] <Outy> redrapscallion: okay =)
[02:19] <redrapscallion> Outy: yeah, I agree with you on that lol
[02:19] <xangua> Budgii: grub
[02:20] <Budgii> Don't know if that was it. I'll try it, will it format my jump drive?
[02:20] <redrapscallion> Outy: hopefully it works after reinstalling. if not, I might just try downgrading my Ubuntu version to 14 :(
[02:20] <Budgii> xangua, I was trying to format the drive and it gives me an error.
[02:21] <Outy> redrapscallion: or try this somehow https://askubuntu.com/questions/713742/wireless-card-firmware-intel-3165-iwlwifi-only-available-for-kernel-4-1-any =)
[02:22] <redrapscallion> I'll try that on a clean install by moving over files via USB probably
[02:22] <Outy> clear
[02:23] <Outy> im off... wish you @ll a good sleep =)
[03:01] <tomcres> Is there any way to turn off the Ubuntu customizations to the GNOME Shell in 17.10? I'd like to use a vanilla GNOME configuration rather than the mock-Unity one that Ubuntu ships with. Is this possible?
[03:11] <tomcres> Never mind. I found it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/install-vanilla-gnome-shell-ubuntu-17-10
[03:11] <Krenair> Hey, I've got a Xenial machine which is having package problems with linux-headers-4.4.0-93
[03:12] <Krenair> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-4.4.0-93_4.4.0-93.116_all.deb (--unpack):
[03:12] <Krenair>  unable to create '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-93/arch/powerpc/include/asm/mediabay.h.dpkg-new' (while processing './usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-93/arch/powerpc/include/asm/mediabay.h'): No space left on device
[03:12] <Krenair> No apport report written because the error message indicates a disk full error
[03:12] <Krenair> except I have 1.4G free on /
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Krenair: "No space left on device
[03:13] <tomcres> how much space do you have left on /var?
[03:13] <Krenair> the archive it's processing is 9.6M
[03:13] <Bashing-om> " ' df -h ; df -i ' to tell the tale .,
[03:13] <Krenair>  /var doesn't have it's own partition
[03:13] <Krenair> so it'd be /'s 1.4G
[03:13] <tomcres> OK
[03:14] <Krenair> ooh
[03:14] <Krenair> df -i is interesting
[03:14] <Krenair>  /dev/vda1        977280 974298     2982  100% /
[03:14] <Krenair> meanwhile, df -h, which is what I was looking at earlier:
[03:14] <Krenair>  /dev/vda1        15G   13G  1.4G  90% /
[03:15] <tomcres> Ah, it looks like you've used up all your inodes. Your disk is full.
[03:16] <lakin> Trying to install Ubuntu on my dad's laptop. He prefers gnome-shell, and we both prefer an LTS release. 16.04 doesn't include gnome-3, the 16.04.3 ubuntu-gnome installer crashes during install and 17.10 with wayland is incredibly unstable when I just tried it. Is the daily build of 18.04 a crazy idea?
[03:16] <Krenair> so I need to remove some stuff, even though I'm supposed to have 1.4G free. nice
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Krenair: Well ,,out of inodes, can no longer address . All you can do at this point is remove files .  Any joy ' sudo apt autoremove ' ? for starters .
[03:17] <Krenair> Bashing-om, no, that doesn't work because of the broken linux-headers-4.4.0-93 package install
[03:17] <Krenair> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:17] <Krenair>  linux-headers-4.4.0-93-generic : Depends: linux-headers-4.4.0-93 but it is not installed
[03:17] <Krenair> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[03:17] <Krenair> should I try autoremove -f?
[03:21] <Krenair> It's actually running 4.4.0-81-generic right now so it should be able to live without 4.4.0-93 headers, though it might need them for next restart?
[03:22] <Krenair> Bashing-om?
[03:23] <Krenair> would `apt autoremove -f` work?
[03:23] <Krenair> I guess a better question would be: could it be dangerous?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> Krenair: ' uname -r ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' then somthing like ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image{,-extra}-4.4.0-{31,38,42,45,47,51,53}-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-{31,38,42,45,47,51,53}{,-generic} ' to remove old ketrenls . Must not mess with the uname -r result .
[03:25] <lakin> #ubuntu-gnome suggests that support requests are asked here. But the topic here suggests that non-official derivatives should seek support elsewhere. So where do I get support for Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.3 ?
[03:25] <spectacular> hi, to those of you who were helping me with my lagging problem, i installed 16.04 and everything seems fine now. thanks all.
[03:27] <Bashing-om> lakin: gnome is supported here . ask away .
[03:27] <Bashing-om> !yay | spectacular
[03:27] <Krenair> Bashing-om, that's already taken /'s IUse% to 89% :)
[03:28] <Krenair> 77% now done
[03:28] <lakin> Bashing-om: thanks.
[03:29] <lakin> the ubuntu-gnome 16.04.3 installer crashes after I enter the username/password/computer name
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Krenair: Now ' apt get update ; sudo apt -f install ' run clean ?
[03:29] <lakin> I'm downloading the 16.04.2 installer now to see if it works, but what is the best way to get LTS + ubuntu gnome right now?
[03:30] <ConsoleFx> For some reasons Ubuntu 17.10 is acting too sluggish! Unsure how
[03:30] <Bashing-om> lakin: Here : http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ .
[03:31] <ConsoleFx> open a page in Firefox and the page scrolls like tortoise :(
[03:31] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | lakin
[03:31] <ConsoleFx> Videos are having the same smoothness issues too
[03:31] <lakin> ubottu: I already did that. It matches.
[03:31] <lakin> Bashing-om: I already did that. :)
[03:32] <lakin> And that is where I am downloading from. I guess I just try the 16.04.2 installer
[03:32] <ConsoleFx> Any working solutions which would really work? I would like to avoid degrading to Ubuntu 16 again :(
[03:32] <Zombie> Got some weird update that came through for Ubuntu's LTS release on the DC. It's rendered all authenticated samba share access inoperative.
[03:32] <tomcres> lakin IF you still have problems with the UG installer, you can always install regular Ubuntu and just apt install gnome-session afterwards.
[03:33] <Bashing-om> lakin: Dual booting ? turned off secure boot and fast boot ? Shut Windows down completely ?
[03:33] <lakin> tomcres: is gnome-shell included in vanilla ubuntu 16.04.3?
[03:33] <lakin> Not dual booting. Turned off secure boot and fast boot.
[03:33] <tomcres> lakin It's not installed, but you can install it with apt
[03:33] <lakin> The vanilla ubuntu 16.04.3 installer works fine.
[03:33] <lakin> tomcres: it's included in the repos? I thought you had to use the PPA?
[03:34] <lakin> Which was no longer officially supported.
[03:34] <lakin> If that's the case, then I'll definitely do that.
[03:34] <lakin> :)
[03:34] <tomcres> lakin let me double check for you. give me a moment
[03:35] <lakin> hot damn - https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&searchon=names&keywords=gnome-shell looks like it is included!
[03:36] <lakin> Thanks all. I'll just use that. For whatever reason I thought I needed the ppa. Must be tired, lol
[03:36] <tomcres> lakin, OK it is in the repos. But the command is actually apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:36] <lakin> perfect. I'll do that right now.
[03:36] <lakin> Thanks again
[03:37] <Zombie> Anyone else experiencing this?
[03:37] <tomcres> OK. Good luck
[03:39] <ConsoleFx> Installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop would fix the sluggishness issue on Ubuntu 17.10? tomcres
[03:39] <lakin> No, he was referring to me.
[03:39] <ConsoleFx> aah okay
[03:39] <ConsoleFx> nvm
[03:40] <lakin> 17.10 already uses gnome-desktop by default AFAIK
[03:40] <theblackone> Can ubuntu spy me?
[03:40] <ConsoleFx> lakin, this 17.10 slugishness is driving me nuts indeed :(
[03:41] <lakin> Yeah, I just tried it on this same laptop and it was unusable
[03:41] <AmericanBlend> theblackone, by itself, rather no
[03:41] <lakin> I was trying to install the citrix linux client and during the install gst-plugin-scan would use 100% cpu and eventually freeze the computer
[03:42] <AmericanBlend> but who to trust
[03:43] <theblackone> I think Cannonical is getting my data to sell! How do they make money?
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> theblackone, canonical is sponsorwd by mark shuttlework
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> they also get donations
[03:47] <tomcres> and they sell support, especially for server
[03:47] <AmericanBlend> mark shuttlework is a south african rich guy with a mission
[03:51] <AmericanBlend> mark shuttleworth actually
[03:51] <AmericanBlend> made a mistake here
[03:59] <one808> happy new year ^_^
[04:00] <CaptWho> I have a Buffalo NAS that I'm trying to connect to from a 16.04 desktop. Does anyone have a good link with setup instructions. I'm not having much luck with the places I've found.
[04:14] <branchuser> GFSinfo123
[04:15] <CaptWho> ?
[04:16] <transhuman> Hi, is there an easy way to limit the memory consumed by libreoffice but allow it to take up swap after a certain amount. thing has a terrible memory leak
[04:20] <testmaster1> Hi, im having problems with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS. When I install it on my PC and update it "via sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y" and then leave it for a while, the GUI will just crash
[04:20] <testmaster1> I can tell it crashes because even TeamViewer cannot show the GUI. Its just a black screen
[04:21] <testmaster1> Right now, it cannot boot into Ubuntu entirely, when I turn it on, I can hear the drums when the OS starts but no GUI to put a password
[04:21] <testmaster1> I am trying to reinstall it now via USB but im sure the problem will happen again, what can I do? Where would the logs be stored for this type of problem?
[04:22] <Donnutt> Hi.
[04:37] <lakin> Alright, installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop from an Ubuntu 16.04.3 install worked. I chosed gdm as the login tool. After boot grub no longer shows, and when I try to login it just hangs and never shows the desktop.
[04:38] <lakin> Because grub isn't showing - I can't reboot into recovery mode, and CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't get me to a virtual terminal either.
[04:38] <lakin> How would I go about diagnosing this?
[04:41] <testmaster1> @lakin
[04:41] <testmaster1> u there?
[04:44] <fathur> hay, can i ask?
[04:44] <lakin> testmaster1: yes, why?
[04:45] <testmaster1> because i have the same problem
[04:45] <fathur> can running aplication android in ubuntu mate 32 bit?
[04:45] <testmaster1> or i think i do
[04:45] <testmaster1> and father, probaby not.
[04:45] <fathur> i from indonesia
[04:45] <lakin> I get to a login screen. I can type in my password, but it goes nowhere after that
[04:46] <testmaster1> here is my problem lakin, is it like yours?
[04:46] <testmaster1> Hi, im having problems with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS. When I install it on my PC and update it "via sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y" and then leave it for a while, the GUI will just crash
[04:46] <lakin> No. It's not like mine
[04:47] <fathur> how to android app can running in ubuntu mate?
[04:53] <Shanky> Networking not wrking after waking from suslebd
[04:53] <Shanky> Suspend**
[05:11] <Donnutt> Can you run multiple desktop environments and switch between them?
[05:11] <EriC^^> sure
[05:11] <EriC^^> you mean at the same time?
[05:11] <Donnutt> How do you switch after installing one?
[05:12] <EriC^^> from the login screen
[05:12] <Donnutt> I mean like logout in one and back in in another.
[05:12] <Donnutt> oh, do I have to do something to enable that?
[05:13] <EriC^^> after you install the new de it should show up asan option somewhere
[05:13] <EriC^^> which desktop do you have rn?
[05:13] <Donnutt> Ah.
[05:13] <Donnutt> Gnome
[05:13] <EriC^^> oh i think its somewhere in te upper right corner
[05:15] <Donnutt> What environments will compiz run in?
[05:18] <EriC^^> doesnt matter, all the packages will be installed
[05:21] <Donnutt> Ok, next question, how do I find the version of gnome shell that I have?
[05:36] <quotation> Hello. I need some assistance with whatever is wrong with apt-get. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qy7myMx82f/
[05:36] <quotation> I really cannot figure it out. whatever packages are missing are very clearly installed, so what could the problem be?
[05:37] <quotation> both ConfigParser for python2 and configparser for Python3 are installed
[05:37] <aeyxa> quotation, did you try installing configparser yourself? python is trying to use configparser to read from an ini file but doesn't have configparser installed
[05:38] <ledeni> Donnutt, in terminal ' gnome-shell --version'
[05:38] <aeyxa> I don't see it in your list there
[05:38] <Donnutt> Thank you.
[05:38] <quotation> aeyxa: configparser is installed.
[05:39] <aeyxa> quotation, show it, do like python3 -c "import ConfigParser"
[05:39] <quotation> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bqPYhGVJkd/
[05:39] <DrDigital> can anyone help me with a php issue i have on ubuntu? when i load my 23.226.231.234/phpinfo.php i dont see ioncube, but if i do php -v in terminal i do and they are identical versions of php to me...   or is this more for #php?
[05:40] <quotation> aeyxa: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ckWbmxqcqs/
[05:41] <quotation> aeyxa: ConfigParser is configparser in python3
[05:41] <aeyxa> what version is that version.py file trying to use, maybe that's the problem then? quotation
[05:42] <screamslash> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 lts my wifi won't connect to my main wifi network. I've gotten every other device to connect but not this Ubuntu laptop. it just like keeps trying to connect and just keeps failing. there's no password. how do I fix this?
[05:42] <quotation> aeyxa: how do I find that out?
[05:42] <aeyxa> quotation, you could try opening the file and changing it to configparser as an easy way
[05:43] <aeyxa> quotation, /usr/share/python/debpython/version.py line 24 it says
[05:44] <quotation> aeyxa: line 24 says: "from ConfigParser import SafeConfigParser"
[05:44] <quotation> aeyxa: ought I change that to "configparser" ?
[05:44] <quotation> seems like a bad idea
[05:45]  * quotation tries
[05:45] <aeyxa> I don't think SafeConfigParser exists under configparser, can't find it here for python 3 https://docs.python.org/3/library/configparser.html, quotation
[05:46] <aeyxa> so changing just ConfigParser to configparser likely won't help
[05:47] <quotation> What would be helpful in this case? Changing the line did absolutely nothing
[05:47] <aeyxa> are you running in a python2 environment when you install that package? quotation
[05:47] <quotation> No, I'm running in python3
[05:47] <aeyxa> well seems like that's a python 2 package
[05:47] <quotation> or wait.. hmm
[05:47] <aeyxa> just type python --version to find out what the default is
[05:48] <quotation> 3.5.2
[05:48] <aeyxa> it's probably 2.7 unless you installed 3 from source and overwrote it
[05:48] <quotation> I did change the symlink long ago
[05:48] <aeyxa> that's probably the problem then, but, seems silly that the package wouldn't go looking for python 2 on it's own if it depends on it...
[05:49] <screamslash> any ideas?
[05:49] <quotation> Agreed. Because I've changed only the symlink and perhaps no other references, are there some other reassociations I need to make?
[05:49] <quotation> Uninstalling python2 actually seemed to provide more issues
[05:50] <aeyxa> lol yes you shouldn't have uninstalled it
[05:50] <quotation> I mean, it's installed again, which fixed tons of new issues, but..
[05:50] <aeyxa> you should keep whatever version the default is
[05:50] <quotation> this configparser issue persists :s
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: best way to get your issue solved is to re-ask in the channel once in a while, with all details
[05:50] <aeyxa> and then use virtual environments
[05:51] <aeyxa> for python 3
[05:51] <quotation> Yes, so far I have both python2 and python3, and I'm using a virtual environment for python3
[05:51] <aeyxa> is the default back to python2  now?
[05:51] <aeyxa> python --version is 2?
[05:51] <quotation> I don't know what's up with python2 since I don't actually use it. The default is not back to python2, no.
[05:51] <screamslash>  I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 lts my wifi won't connect to my main wifi network. I've gotten every other device to connect but not this Ubuntu laptop. it just like keeps trying to connect and just keeps failing. there's no password. how do I fix this?
[05:51] <quotation> python --version is 3.5.2
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: wifi chipset? ubuntu up to date to latest .3?
[05:52] <aeyxa> quotation, pretty sure you'll need to do that, or you can try opening the file and telling it go use python 2, probably by doing like #!<path to python2> I think
[05:52] <aeyxa> but you'll probably run into more problems later
[05:53] <quotation> aeyxa: which file?
[05:53] <aeyxa> anyway this is more of a python problem tbh, #python or #pypa might be more help, quotation
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !latest | quotation
[05:53] <aeyxa> the version.py file that's giving you the error message
[05:53] <screamslash> Intel wireless 3165 everything is up to date
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> quotation: like aeyxa best to revert to python defaults for your ubuntu version
[05:54] <quotation> aeyxa: ah!! That makes sense. Let me try that
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: have you tryed a network-manager restart?
[05:55] <aeyxa> quotation, you'll no doubt run into the same problem later, so I recommend just putting the default back to 2 and use 3 in venv
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: can you check your kernel version too plz? uname -a?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> aeyxa: +1
[05:55] <screamslash> how do I do that
[05:55] <quotation> aeyxa: by that, you mean linking py2 to python rather than py3?
[05:55] <aeyxa> screamslash, open terminal and type uname -a :p
[05:55] <aeyxa> quotation, yes basically
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: sudo service network-manager restart
[05:55] <screamslash> how do I restart the network manager
[05:56] <aeyxa> screamslash, service network-manager restart
[05:56] <aeyxa> I think?
[05:56] <aeyxa> NetworkManager maybe or networks, I forget the service name for ubuntu
[05:56] <screamslash> that didn't fix it
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: ok, check if your driver is loaded plz: sudo lshw -C network
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: at the bottom module should show: driver=...
[05:57] <quotation> Well geeze...
[05:57] <screamslash> kernal:4.13.0-32
[05:57] <quotation> Fixed
[05:57] <aeyxa> quotation, grats c:
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[05:57] <aeyxa> quotation, a lot of programs depend on 2.7 still especially os related packages
[05:57] <quotation> aeyxa: I mean, it's not something to be proud of, now emacs is broken :(
[05:58] <screamslash> driver=iwlwifi
[05:58] <aeyxa> quotation, do you know how to use venv?
[05:58] <quotation> I don't
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: allright, that also looks good
[05:58]  * quotation pinfos venv
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> screamslash: when did your wifi start to problem?
[05:59] <aeyxa> quotation, https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html
[05:59] <screamslash> it just keeps like attempting to connect and failing
[05:59] <blue1> has anyone had any experience with wine 3.0?
[05:59] <screamslash> it does this like once a month randomly
[05:59] <quotation> aeyxa: thanks man, really appreciate it! :-) Let me take a look
[05:59] <aeyxa> anyway, I had my own question when I came here and ended up helping other people lul
[06:00] <quotation> aeyxa: what was your question?
[06:00] <aeyxa> I'm trying to run ubuntu 17 live and the problem is my desktop needs to use a wifi adapter. Is there a way I can download the correct driver package and somehow place it in the bootable usb to be used on bootup?
[06:01] <Codsworth> aeyxa , persistance?
[06:01] <Shpooky> hello
[06:01] <aeyxa> Codsworth, ?
[06:01] <Codsworth> ubuntu persistance what you want?
[06:02] <Shpooky> oof
[06:02] <Codsworth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:02] <lotuspsychje_> !latest | blue1
[06:02] <Shpooky> lol
[06:02]  * Codsworth slaps Shpooky with the power of greyskull
[06:03] <Shpooky> ppf
[06:03] <Shpooky> oof
[06:03] <Zombie> Hey folks.
[06:03] <aeyxa> Codsworth, not sure that's exactly what I need
[06:04] <Shpooky> ok so apparently i fucked something up with my additional drivers settings
[06:04] <Shpooky> i got a new graphics card
[06:04] <Shpooky> and installed it
[06:04] <Zombie> I need to ask about a bad Samba Got some weird update that came through for Ubuntu's LTS release on the DC. It's rendered all authenticated samba share access inoperative.
[06:04] <blue1> lotuspsychje thanks - I understand stability - but a programme I have needs a newer version than the distro.  I'll give 3.x a shot -- just wondering if anyone had used it.
[06:05] <Shpooky> ubuntu automatically started using opensource code for the new graphics card
[06:05] <lotuspsychje_> blue1: we dont reccomend mixing package versions on ubuntu, it can scramble your system
[06:06] <Shpooky> but when i switched it over to proprietary software
[06:07] <Shpooky> the screen stays black whenever i try to start useing my computer with the graphics card
[06:07] <Shpooky> when i boot into ubuntu
[06:07] <blue1> lotuspsychje_: true that.
[06:07] <lotuspsychje_> blue1: unless you experiment yourself with !pinning !backports or snaps
[06:09] <blue1> lotuspsychje_: you are right -- sometimes the newer packages have dependencies that don't mesh well with the current system.  I will make a backup and if it hoses it -- dd to the rescue
[06:09] <blue1> thanks
[06:11] <lotuspsychje_> Shpooky: try to add all details in one line in your question, ubuntu version, hardware version..etc
[06:11] <lotuspsychje_> !details | Shpooky
[06:13] <Shpooky> where can i find the settings files for software and updates?
[06:14] <poutine> Shpooky, it's just you're 13 minutes into asking your question, and you haven't even stated the graphics card type, 3dfx voodoo3 probably, ubuntu version, etc
[06:14] <lotuspsychje_> Shpooky: software &sources last tab additional drivers
[06:25] <user128> i am trying out the 18.04 development release. it is pretty solid except the zfs support. installing the zfs-dkms package fails to build the kernel module.
[06:25] <user128> is there a way to build the zfs kernel module manually?
[06:27] <user128> the build log is pretty empty and contains "No targets specified and no makefile found" line.
[06:28] <larry> hello all
[06:29] <lotuspsychje_> user128: #ubuntu+1 for bionic support
[06:29] <user128> lotuspsychje_, thanks! on it.
[07:06] <aeyxa> this wifi usb adapter I have seems to be using realtek 8812BU, I'm trying to find the ubuntu driver for it so I can download it on windows and install it when I boot into linux, but can't find it
[07:08] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: i think its in linux-firmware
[07:09] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: some realtek chipsets might need tweaking somehow
[07:09] <aeyxa> starting to feel pretty lazy
[07:10] <aeyxa> maybe now's a good time to tell my isp to come out here and punch a hole through my wall...
[07:10] <aeyxa> so I can just use ethernet and avoid this lol
[07:10] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: wich ubuntu version is this?
[07:10] <aeyxa> 17
[07:10] <aeyxa> 17.10
[07:12] <lotuspsychje_> !info linux-firmware artful
[07:12] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: you have this?
[07:13] <aeyxa> lotuspsychje_ if it doesn't come with the default iso download, then no
[07:14] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: ah right, you dont have updates during setup right
[07:14] <aeyxa> right
[07:15] <aeyxa> I might just boot ubuntu on a vm, install what I need and then dd the image to a disk and boot off that
[07:15] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: or go somewhere plugin a cable?
[07:16] <aeyxa> I'd have to pick up my desktop and carry it into the other room
[07:16] <aeyxa> that sounds like tomorrow me's problem
[07:17] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: allrighty, good luck mate
[07:17] <lotuspsychje_> aeyxa: i fixxed realteks in the past with just updating
[07:17] <netochka> EriC^: hi, are u there?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje_> netochka: he might wakeup soon
[07:19] <lotuspsychje_> netochka: repeat your question in channel where you left it?
[07:28] <netochka> lotuspsychje: he gave me a command yesterday for disabling bluetooth. i just wanted to save that in case i need it again. couldn' find it
[07:28] <Zombie> I need to ask about a bad Samba Got some weird update that came through for Ubuntu's LTS release on the DC. It's rendered all authenticated samba share access inoperative. Can anyone confirm?
[07:28] <netochka> it had some 'kill' in it i suppose
[07:29] <shanky> ubuntu 16.04 sudo command not working after suspend
[07:29] <shanky> ubuntu 16.04 sudo command not working after suspend
[07:37] <shanky> ubuntu 16.04 sudo command not working after suspend
[07:45] <netochka> is there anyone here who can help me with installing riseup vpn on ubuntu
[08:06] <bryanfrommacau> hi
[08:06] <jacsector0> yoo
[08:06] <bryanfrommacau> I have a lenovo thinkpad R400, I can't get the wifi working (the little wifi light also not turning on)
[08:07] <jacsector0> can u paste the lspci
[08:08] <bryanfrommacau> I'll try, just rebooting now
[08:11] <bryanfrommacau> another topic, but is 2gb enough ram for ubuntu 17?
[08:11] <cfhowlett> technically, yes but it will be slow.  try xubuntu or lubuntu for a speedier life
[08:12] <jacsector0> for lenovo r400 try enable on bios
[08:12] <jacsector0> for ubuntu 2gb yes that's enough but it's more recommended that your using CLI
[08:12] <jacsector0> :))
[08:13] <bryanfrommacau> I couldn't find it in bios
[08:14] <bryanfrommacau> I'm using a different computer here, I can't paste thte whole lspci.....I see Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000
[08:14] <bryanfrommacau> also something under ethernet
[08:15] <jacsector0> https://support.lenovo.com/id/en/solutions/ht071417
[08:15] <bryanfrommacau> hmmm my bios looks different than that
[08:17] <jacsector0> www.linlap.com/lenovo_thinkpad_r400
[08:18] <jacsector0> i'm using ubuntu 17 for server
[08:18] <jacsector0> and it's work fine to me
[08:18] <bryanfrommacau> Yeah, I saw that page, it just says "the wireless card works," but it's very old
[08:19] <jacsector0> @bryanfrommacau what ubuntu version that your using ?
[08:19] <bryanfrommacau> My bios version is 3.22....I did find the wireless lan thet second time, it's on
[08:20] <bryanfrommacau> Actually.... Kylin
[08:20] <bryanfrommacau> right now
[08:20] <bryanfrommacau> based on 17.10
[08:20] <bryanfrommacau> but I got the same results both ways
[08:23] <bryanfrommacau> Do the long term support versions have better driver support sometimes?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> more stable usually.  unless you have a specific reason, I would highly advise you to use LTS only
[08:25] <bryanfrommacau> I'll give it a try
[08:29] <shanky> ubuntu 16.04 sudo command not working after suspend
[08:34] <EriC^^> shanky: what happens when you try sudo
[08:41] <EriC^^> netochka: hey
[08:41] <shanky> EriC^^: it get stucked :(
[08:42] <shanky> EriC^^: actually on waking up from suspend netwrk is not showing so i tried sudo systemctl restart network-manager.service
[08:42] <shanky> and it stucked
[08:43] <shanky> so i tried another command with suso and observe its nt prompting for passwrd
[08:43] <EriC^^> shanky: does sudo work otherwise? "sudo cat /etc/passwd" works?
[08:43] <EriC^^> aha
[08:43] <shanky> EriC^^: NO
[08:44] <shanky> EriC^^: no when wakep from suspend . else on reboot it wrks
[08:46] <netochka> hi EriC^^
[08:47] <EriC^^> hi netochka
[08:47] <EriC^^> shanky: try 'sudo -i' does that work?
[08:47] <EriC^^> netochka: this is the link about bluetooth https://askubuntu.com/questions/67758/how-can-i-deactivate-bluetooth-on-system-startup
[08:48] <netochka> ah yes. that's the one. the rfkill command. tyvm
[08:48] <netochka> EriC^^: are you also familiar with riseup services?
[08:49] <shanky> EriC^^: Help plzz
[08:49] <EriC^^> netochka: nope, sorry
[08:49] <EriC^^> shanky: does 'sudo -i' work?
[08:50] <darga> bertrand
[08:50] <shanky> EriC^^: wait i will try it after suspend and wakeup and check if it wrks normally its wrking
[08:52] <bryanfrommacau> So I switched to the LTS version
[08:52] <bryanfrommacau> I was surprised to see the wifi light on for a couple of seconds while the system was loading
[08:52] <bryanfrommacau> and then it's off again
[08:52] <bryanfrommacau> Not sure what to do
[08:54] <EriC^^> bryanfrommacau: did you check 'dmesg' for any errors?
[08:55] <shanky_> EriC^^: hi its not wrking :(
[08:55] <EriC^^> shanky_: after suspending you only tried sudo -i ?
[08:56] <shanky_> yes
[08:58] <bryanfrommacau> A lot of stuff comes up....I see "detected Intel(r) Centrino(r) Wireless-N 1000....I can see where i enabled/disabled the radio
[08:59] <bryanfrommacau> The bluetooth light is on, but the wifi light is off
[08:59] <bryanfrommacau> I don't see any errors
[08:59] <bryanfrommacau> Not sure what to look for
[08:59] <bryanfrommacau> If I can get the wifi working I'll be set
[09:02] <shanky_> EriC^^: should i send u dmesg logs?
[09:02] <EriC^^> shanky_: try making a root shell with 'sudo -i' then suspend
[09:03] <shanky_> EriC^^: how?
[09:04] <EriC^^> then after the suspend try 'strace -o /tmp/log sudo -u <your user> sudo cat /etc/issue' and then upload the contents with "cat /tmp/log | nc termview.me 9999"
[09:04] <EriC^^> (from the root shell)
[09:04] <EriC^^> sorry some typos
[09:04] <EriC^^> then after the suspend try 'strace -o /tmp/log -u <your user> sudo cat /etc/issue' and then upload the contents with "cat /tmp/log | nc termview.me 9999"
[09:06] <EriC^^> bryanfrommacau: try 'rfkill list' anything there soft or hardblocked?
[09:07] <bryanfrommacau> it says bluetooth is softblocked
[09:07] <bryanfrommacau> everything else is no
[09:07] <EriC^^> bryanfrommacau: what does 'lshw -c network' show?
[09:07] <EriC^^> you can use 'lshw -c network | nc termview.me 9999' to pastebin from a terminal
[09:09] <shanky_> EriC^^: no netwrk is wrking how can i paste logs
[09:10] <EriC^^> shanky_: change the command to strace -o /var/tmp/sudolog
[09:10] <shanky_> EriC^^: THERE is no log in /tmp folder
[09:10] <EriC^^> then restart the pc to get networking and upload
[09:10] <EriC^^> shanky_: did the command hang?
[09:11] <SailorR> how do I change var/log to be on a different raid?
[09:11] <SailorR> remotely
[09:11] <shanky_> EriC^^: no such c=files in /var/tmp/sudolog
[09:12] <EriC^^> shanky_: try from the root shell, strace -u <your user> sudo cat /etc/issue
[09:12] <EriC^^> and look at the last couple lines where it's hanging
[09:12] <shanky_> root shell not wrking '
[09:12] <shanky_> after suspend :(
[09:13] <shanky_> wait can i send dmesg message'
[09:13] <EriC^^> sure why not
[09:13] <bryanfrommacau> Hi, I got it connected, it just wasn't working on the live cd
[09:13] <bryanfrommacau> sorry for the trouble
[09:16] <shanky> hi
[09:16] <shanky> Erick^^: https://pastebin.com/4w3RLkGf
[09:17] <shanky_> EriC^^: plz find https://pastebin.com/4w3RLkGf
[09:17] <bryanfrommacau> My wife said to say thank you ;)
[09:27] <shanky> someone can help me
[09:28] <bazhang> shanky, please state your issue to the channel, if someone can they will help
[09:28] <shanky> after suspend when waking up netwrk is not wrking and sudo command is also npt wrking
[09:28] <shanky> bazhang: here is pastebin https://pastebin.com/4w3RLkGf
[09:29] <shanky> for dmesg in suspended time
[09:29] <bazhang> shanky, as in a laptop where you shut the lid?
[09:30] <shanky> bazhang: yes after suspend (and shutting lid ) and then waking up
[09:30] <bazhang> shanky, thats fairly standard as far as I know with intel wifi
[09:31] <bazhang> shanky, do you have intel wifi on that
[09:31] <shanky> bazhang: hw to check that
[09:32] <shanky> bazhang: lspci -knn | grep Net -A2 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6164 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0041] (rev 20) 	Subsystem: Lenovo QCA6164 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [17aa:3545] 	Kernel driver in use: ath10k_pci 	Kernel modules: ath10k_pci
[09:32] <bazhang> shanky, I thought you checked that earlier and showed the intel wifi chip
[09:32] <shanky> bazhang: tell me command so that i can let  know
[09:33] <shanky> bazhang: but why sudo also not wrking :(
[09:33] <bazhang> shanky, when you enter that 8 character code into a search engine, what does it show
[09:33] <shanky> bazhang: if sudo will work i can have restart the netwrk service
[09:33] <shanky> bazhang: which 8 character code?
[09:33] <bazhang> shanky, did you want help, or just keep giving issues without solving the first one
[09:34] <shanky> bazhang: sorry :( just i didnt get what u mean by 8 character . just tell me what info and related command so that i can tell u
[09:34] <bazhang> shanky, lets take them One at a time please
[09:34] <shanky> bazhang: ok :)
[09:35] <bazhang> shanky, you had an eight character code you JUST pasted here
[09:36] <bazhang> 17aa:3545 <---- shanky
[09:36] <bazhang> that one
[09:38] <shanky> bazhang: what i am supposed to do with that searched in google got few issues
[09:39] <bazhang> shanky, enter that code in a search engine, it will say the exact chipset
[09:43] <gogo> jda
[09:43] <gogo> hii
[09:44] <cfhowlett> gogo, we see you.  ask your support questions
[09:44] <shanky> bazhang: is it Qualcomm Atheros QCA6164
[09:44] <shanky> bazhang: not getting any info about chipset :(
[09:45] <bazhang> shanky, does your laptop have a physical switch on the side to open and shut wifi
[09:46] <shanky> bazhang: ctrl f7 flight mode
[09:46] <bazhang> shanky, not what I meant
[09:46] <Lucky901> test
[09:46] <urgent_help> hi sudo is not wrking after suspen then wakep
[09:47] <bazhang> urgent_help, is that you shanky
[09:47] <shanky> bazhang: hmm :(
[09:47] <shanky> bazhang: trying to get fix either way :(
[09:47] <gogo> cfhowlett ty. I don't have any questions right now. I am familiarizing myself with IRC
[09:47] <bazhang> shanky, are you logged in with two nicks and asking the same questions here
[09:48] <shanky> bazhang: no its different question sudo related
[09:48] <bazhang> shanky, it's the exact same question and spelling
[09:48] <kille> hi guys
[09:48] <shanky> bazhang: u telling abt netwrk related i think sudo will fix once then netwrk i can do by sudo restart netwrk service
[09:49] <shanky> bazhang: can u focus on solving why command with sudo is nt wrking after suspend then wakeup
[09:49] <urgent_help> bazhang: sorry :(
[09:50] <kille> i installed ubuntu and then replaced unity with gnome. i want to close my windows like in windows, by pressing alt f4. unfortunately, it closes the window, but it also changes my session over to terminal. how can i change the binding for that session shortcut to be something else, like ctrl alt f4, so that gnome closes my windows, but i dont have to change my session when i do that? i dont want to go alt
[09:50] <kille> f4, alt f2 every time. :P
[09:50] <ChunkzZ1> bazhang: same IP and client too
[09:50] <bazhang> yep
[09:51] <gogo> How can I pin the users to sidebar in xchat??
[09:51] <bazhang> gogo first off get hexchat
[09:51] <cfhowlett> gogo, xchat?  XCHAT?  no longer developed or supported.  install hexchat
[09:52] <gogo> alright
[09:53] <shanky> bazhang: u got angry :(
[09:53] <gogo> is it also from gnome?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> gogo, sudo apt install hexchat         will get it
[09:55] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[09:55] <bazhang> shanky, you need to stick to a single issue, with a single nick asking, not keep changing around to what you think is the fix
[09:55] <shanky> bazhang: ok sry
[09:56] <shanky> bazhang: wat should i do now?
[09:56] <bazhang> shanky, state your single issue to the channel every 10-15 minutes, if someone wishes to help they will
[09:56] <shanky> bazhang: ok
[09:57] <shanky> bye
[09:57] <shanky> i dont think anybody can help me :(
[09:57] <bazhang> gogo there's not a pin user to the side that I know of, could you clarify
[09:58] <cfhowlett> gogo, same here.  you can add nicks to your Friends List
[09:58] <bazhang> gogo perhaps you could right click on a users nick and see what options that shows
[09:59] <gogo> bazhang cfhowlett :  I watched a video about IRC in which there was a right sidebar just like on the web IRC so I thought maybe it
[10:00] <gogo> ... is here too
[10:00] <cfhowlett> different irc clients, different tricks, gogo
[10:01] <gogo> yes got it. Sidebar is available in hexchat but not in xchat. Ty
[10:01] <Triffid_Hunter> gogo: try kvirc ;)
[10:05] <gogo> i have installed hexchat but unable to connect to freenode#ubuntu
[10:05] <gogo> do they all have different IRC for same #ubuntu???
[10:06] <bazhang> gogo, hexchat might list it as ubuntu servers
[10:06] <Triffid_Hunter> gogo: no, channels exist on each irc network. client is irrelevant, although if you haven't logged in with nickserv first you can get bumped to -unregistered sometimes
[10:07] <coco> hello
[10:07] <bazhang> hi
[10:07] <gogo> haha coco is me
[10:07] <bazhang> gogo thats you on hexchat?
[10:07] <gogo> ty bazhang
[10:07] <bazhang> np
[10:08] <coco> yes it's me
[10:08] <coco> I am having the same feeling as getting 1000 likes on my post
[10:08] <coco> is it bad?
[10:08] <coco> jaja
[10:09] <gogo> leaving x chat now ty all. i'll use hexchat from now on
[10:11] <bazhang> coco, did you get the pin to sidebar or something like it?
[10:11] <coco> yes
[10:11] <bazhang> great
[10:11] <coco> it shows all the users of the chat
[10:13] <coco> what is ops here??? it says 2ops out of 1512 total users
[10:14] <bazhang> coco, both of those are channel watcher bots, the ops (human) dont keep it at all times
[10:16] <coco> just like Reddit bots?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> coco, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:17] <bazhang> coco, not sure, never went there
[10:17] <bazhang> coco you might want to try #freenode for such issues
[10:17] <ballin> i need to recover lost partition table-no hardware damage-human error deleted but not overwritten,using  testdisk b4 scan completes i encounter an issue due to size of scan vs size of disk see img pls (sdd is the drive)
[10:18] <ballin> https://imgur.com/5OROJ0g
[10:18] <coco> sorry cfhowlett but I don't have any right now.
[10:18] <ballin> http://termbin.com/85fc
[10:20] <ballin> second paste is smart data
[10:21] <ballin> its an external hard drive i store all my stuff on with three partitions and i use it on linux and other os
[10:27] <ballin> if this isnt the channel to ask on if s1 would please suggest the appropriate place to ask i would really appreciate it
[10:28] <Triffid_Hunter> ballin: there's some tool that can guess your partition table by scanning the drive and looking for familiar filesystem headers.. you'll have to ask google for its name though
[10:30] <iuhiuh> net
[10:31] <ballin> thanks
[10:31] <ballin> only thing i found was easeus
[10:32] <ballin> any other clues
[10:32] <ballin> its wont work for me because of the partition size
[10:32] <ballin> im ballin
[10:32] <ballin> 3TB
[10:33] <ballin> was able to recover raw data but i need the partition table for raw file location placement
[10:37] <neurre> which package should provide support for iso9660 filesystem?
[10:40] <Ben64> neurre: linux-image-generic
[10:41] <linuxsec> hi
[10:41] <karthik1> exit
[10:46] <linuxsec> hi
[10:47] <egrain> i have trouble getting the epson al-m200dn to run. it sees the printer in the network, but it recommends the epson al m2000 driver, which doesn't really seem to work. test page gives me: ERROR: undefinedsource, OFFENDING COMMAND: findresource, STACK: false , CustomProcs,     help would be greatly appreciated.
[10:48] <anddam> I'm switching from gnupg to gnupg2, in doing so I see gpgv is installed in place of gpgv2
[10:49] <anddam> trying to purge gpgv results in "WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed." "This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!", is there a proper approach to upgrading to gpgv2?
[10:49] <anddam> or, better, is switching from gpgv to gpgv2 needed at all when switching to gnupg2?
[10:51] <ASTRA`> i'm currently running 16.04 on AMD A10-7850K Radeon R7
[10:52] <ASTRA`> driver issues unfortunately
[10:55] <Jedee> hello
[10:56] <Jedee> can someone tell me how i reset all the panels and such in xubuntu? i'm upgrading from a 24 inch full hd to a 32 inch 4k screem
[10:56] <Jedee> i've got bad eyes, and resized stuff kinda big on the 24" screen
[10:58] <tomreyn> anddam: on ubuntu 16.04 you can't replace gpgv by gpgv2, yet, since gpgv is still required by apt (amongst others). you can switch from gpg (v1) to gpg2 just fine, though.
[10:59] <tomreyn> ASTRA`: if you were looking for assistence you'll need to provide more information on those issues.
[11:00] <ASTRA`> i'm on ubuntu 16.04, my system is AMD A10-7850K Radeon R7
[11:00] <ASTRA`> i have some obvious graphics card driver issues
[11:00] <brainwash> Jedee: I suggest asking in #xubuntu
[11:00] <anddam> tomreyn: thanks
[11:00] <ASTRA`> vlc 3.0.0 keeps pausing/green flash
[11:01] <Jedee> @brainwash how do i get there?
[11:01] <brainwash> Jedee: /join #xubuntu
[11:01] <Jedee> thanks !
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:01] <brainwash> ASTRA`: is that with or without hardware video decoding? check the VLC settings
[11:02] <ASTRA`> thank you for the reply, please let me check
[11:02] <brainwash> ASTRA`: also, did it work fine with the vlc version that is shipped by your ubuntu release?
[11:06] <ASTRA`> iirc, the version that came with 16.04 never had any issues
[11:06] <ASTRA`> 2.6.6
[11:07] <ASTRA`> after i upgraded to this one, it started freezing/pausing and displaying green flash screen
[11:08] <brainwash> ASTRA`: I guess in this case it would be the best to ask in #vlc
[11:09] <brainwash> ASTRA`: maybe the people over there can point you to a bug report, or help with creating one
[11:09] <ASTRA`> on the settings, hardware accelerated decoding is set to 'Automatic'
[11:09] <brainwash> I assume that disabling will fix the issue
[11:09] <brainwash> disabling it
[11:10] <ASTRA`> i shall try it
[11:10] <tomreyn> egrain: according to the PPD file epson provides for AL-M200DN printers, it supports both postscript and pcl, so you could use those with this PPD (or the one provided by linuxprinting, if that's as good or better, haven't checked)
[11:11] <ASTRA`> i was terrified that my system (mentioned above) was slightly incompatible with 16.04
[11:11] <BluesKaj> ASTRA`, yeah I switched to mpv for the very reason you describe
[11:11] <ASTRA`> :(
[11:12] <brainwash> the AMD A10-7850K isn't that new anymore
[11:13] <ASTRA`> apparently, other people with the same AMD A10-7850K/Radeon R7 are suffering compatibility issues concerning the graphics card and  ubuntu 16.04
[11:13] <brainwash> soon you will be able to upgrade to 18.04
[11:13] <ASTRA`> yep, it was released on 2014, getting old indeed
[11:13] <brainwash> well, still 2 months
[11:13] <BluesKaj> videolan has some biugs that haven't been looked at it seems
[11:14] <egrain> tomreyn, where epson provides a PPD file? could you help me out where to find it?
[11:14] <tomreyn> brainwash: i'd expect that upgrades will be offered when 18.04.1 releases only (as it was in the past)
[11:15] <tomreyn> egrain: http://a1227.g.akamai.net/f/1227/40484/7d/download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/01/00/01/94/85/5cf447c97469de337b7286bd1389deb66760f6f7/epson-al-m200_1.0-5_all.deb
[11:15] <pseudonymous> is there a way for me to disable the touch screen ? I have a stylus as well, but the touch functionality gets in the way of using the stylus optimally (resting my hand on the screen)
[11:15] <tomreyn> egrain: or search for it here http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
[11:16] <akik> pseudonymous: you might find options for it in "xinput list", "xinput list-props number"
[11:17] <akik> pseudonymous: the number is the id=n column for your touch screen
[11:18] <akik> pseudonymous: here's an example command that i use to disable two finger horizontal & vertical scroll: xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "libinput Scroll Method Enabled" 0 0 0
[11:24] <egrain> tomreyn, thanks a bunch. the file worked like a charm.
[11:24] <tomreyn> egrain: welcome
[11:35] <N3ro> hello
[12:08] <mfrinnstrom_> Hi. I'm having trouble exporting my ZFS pool in Ubuntu. It says the pool is busy but I can't find the reason for that
[12:08] <mfrinnstrom_> Do you have any ideas?
[12:09] <Elysium3301> Anyone who plays OpenSpades on Ubuntu here? My settings keep resetting to default when I quit the game and the game doesn't run with sudo or root.
[12:11] <blackflow> mfrinnstrom_: is there an active mountpoint in a dataset?
[12:11] <Outy> mfrinnstrom_: maybe it can't unmount a specific partition automatically. have u tried the -f option ?
[12:12] <DiecastMessiah> hailz all .. was going to install gimp and i am going to use what comes with ubuntu repo becuase it is the currect.. but On the site i just seen flatpac first time i seen one... are they alright for ubuntu just incase i come arcoss more of them later on
[12:12] <gordonjcp> Elysium3301: it probably shouldn't run as root
[12:12] <cfhowlett> DiecastMessiah, you can install snaps in ubuntu
[12:13] <Elysium3301> I run it as normal user but the game's settings just keep resetting. I feel like it doesn't have the permissions to save it's config.
[12:14] <mfrinnstrom_> blackflow, Outy: thanks for the suggestions. I got a tip to look in /proc/*/mounts and found the problem
[12:14] <Outy> mfrinnstrom_: was it an unmoutable thingy?
[12:15] <pseudonymous> akik: thanks :) I did go through and tried to disable each xinput device which seemed remotely likely to have anything to do with it but no dice :(
[12:15] <gordonjcp> Elysium3301: it would be saving them in your home directory
[12:16] <akik> pseudonymous: i kind of meant disabling *features* of the touch screen
[12:16] <mfrinnstrom_> Outy: a left-over Docker container that had mounted it as a volume
[12:16] <DiecastMessiah> cfhowlett, thanks i seen people talking about snaps before on here.. had no idea .. but i'll read into that thanks again :)
[12:16] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[12:17] <Outy> mfrinnstrom_: ah okay
[12:17] <akik> pseudonymous: there's also libinput which you can install separately
[12:17] <Outy> DiecastMessiah: I use Gimp-Edge
[12:18] <akik> pseudonymous: i used libinput to be able to rest my left thumb on the clickpad without disturbing mouse movement with my right finger
[12:20] <DiecastMessiah> outy is that the Development version ? or
[12:21] <Outy> DiecastMessiah: yes, for me it runs smoothly - until now no big error encountered: https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp-edge
[12:23] <Outy> DiecastMessiah: it also is dark-themed. for me more relaxing to the eyes.
[12:27] <DoctorPainless> Servus
[12:31] <neurre> if i edit some file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d, what do i need to do for the changes to have an effect?
[12:33] <Highzz> hey
[12:33] <Highzz> i have run into small problem with libreoffice anyone got time to help me
[12:34] <tomreyn> Highzz: not necessarily i, but nobody will be able to help until you describe the issue.
[12:35] <DiecastMessiah> Highzz best to just ask question with details.. than to ask if you can ask
[12:35] <Highzz> aah yeah, all the icons on the tool has vanished i have the text but its like the toolbar has crashed
[12:36] <Highzz> i tried resetting but i have no changed to it
[12:36] <Highzz> changes*
[12:36] <Highzz> does that make sense?
[12:37] <tomreyn> Highzz: yes, but maybe also show a screenshot and the textual output it creates while you start it from a terminal
[12:37] <tomreyn> !paste | Highzz
[12:42] <Highzz> sorry new to ubuntu just changed from windows
[12:42] <Highzz> https://imgur.com/a/K0dnF
[12:43] <Outy> Highzz: if its not too much work of reconfigureing your settings you can try and delete ~/.config/libreoffice
[12:46] <karthik1> -h
[12:50] <Outy> Highzz: did it help ?
[12:54] <helpme> hi
[12:54] <helpme> when I use ctags -R it does nothing
[12:54] <helpme> why doesn't it generate the tags file
[12:56] <Highzz> hey still trying to be honest
[12:57] <Highzz> not too sure how to i trying to delete from terminal but do i delete the whole directory including the back up files?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Highzz, navigate to the exact directory - make sure you get the right one!
[12:58] <cfhowlett> then do rm -rf
[12:58] <Outy> Highzz: you can first try to rename it
[12:58] <cfhowlett> note: from the wrong directory, this can kill you system
[12:59] <Outy> Highzz: like: mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice.old
[13:00] <Outy> Highzz: so with this command we just rename the libreoffice config file directory. so we have a backup and libreoffice should start clean like fresh install
[13:03] <karthik1> \exit
[13:17] <Highzz> https://imgur.com/a/XmfXS
[13:17] <Highzz> i think i got it
[13:17] <Highzz> #outy
[13:19] <Outy> Highzz: moved the directory ?
[13:19] <DiecastMessiah> Highzz from a newbie to another... i noticed now of days there are tons of videos on youtube for people starting out. good spots to learn useful basic commands ..
[13:20] <Outy> Highzz: ah yes look good
[13:20] <DiecastMessiah> search linux for beginners
[13:20] <Highzz> outy no renamed it
[13:20] <Outy> Highzz: yeah this looks good, now you can try libreoffice again
[13:21] <Highzz> diecast, i haven learning how to get around just hard to get used after 15 year of windows
[13:21] <Highzz> but enjoying every min of it
[13:22] <DiecastMessiah> yeah it great to have actual control over the computer.. down with windows LOL
[13:22] <Highzz> loool
[13:22] <Outy> Highzz: take your time - you'll get used to it. the more you'll get into linux the more you'll like it
[13:23] <Highzz> outy its still the same but i can see on the terminal that i new directory has been made
[13:23] <Outy> Highzz: later on you'll find out how bad windows actually is ^^
[13:23] <Highzz> haha new that after vista but couldn't be asked to leave
[13:24] <Highzz> a*
[13:24] <Outy> Highzz: okay so if it didn't help you can deinstall libreoffice with: sudo apt-get purge libreoffice
[13:24] <Outy> Highzz: reinstall it with: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[13:28] <Highzz> okay fist command did not work for me but sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*  did
[13:28] <Highzz> first*
[13:30] <irckat> hello
[13:30] <Highzz> hey mate
[13:30] <Outy> yep
[13:30] <Highzz> outy how to i select the person im talking to?
[13:31] <Highzz> like when you answer me its highlighted red..
[13:31] <Highzz> first timer..
[13:31] <DiecastMessiah> type of the first part of the name and hit Tab
[13:31] <Highzz> DiecastMessiah, wicked thx mate
[13:31] <DiecastMessiah> np
[13:32] <Outy> just type Outy: text text text  you can use autocomplete on my name with Ou  and just hit tab
[13:33] <Highzz> Outy: like this?
[13:33] <Outy> Highzz: so now everything libreoffice is deinstalled - reinstall it with sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[13:33] <Outy> Highzz: yes you did it =)
[13:33] <DiecastMessiah> oh so ya know that also works in termial.. say if you going to to a folder you can type the first 3 or 4 letter and hit tab .. saves a ton of time
[13:33] <Highzz> Outy: nice one, its installing right now
[13:33] <Highzz> oh yeah thats right
[13:33] <Outy> Highzz: http://i.imgur.com/0ZTyafl.png
[13:34] <Highzz> love the terminal compared to cmd
[13:35] <Highzz> wow your looks every different from my xchat :P
[13:36] <Outy> Highzz: yeah i use a terminal based irc chat called weechat - but its a bit comlicated for beginners
[13:39] <Highzz> i got enough on my plate between learning ubuntu and python im good
[13:40] <Highzz> Outy: i have reinstalled when i open it i run into database wizard
[13:40] <Highzz> Outy: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-base ?
[13:42] <Outy> Highzz: no just click on new and create one
[13:44] <Highzz> Outy: https://imgur.com/a/zUEtg
[13:44] <Highzz> Outy: thanks a lot mate!!!! i mean that
[13:44] <Outy> Highzz: is it working =) ?
[13:45] <Highzz> Outy: yeah mate back to normal
[13:45] <Outy> Highzz: very good =) i like that
[13:46] <Highzz> Outy: thanks for taking the time man
[13:46] <Outy> Highzz: you're welcome. by helping i can learn a lot too
[13:47] <Outy> so now i have to attend to other things ... have a nice day
[13:47] <Highzz> you too mate
[13:47] <DiecastMessiah> Highzz: just a tip for irc .. look into this. https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration  some channels you need to do this for it to work
[13:48] <Highzz> oh to registration
[13:48] <DiecastMessiah> yeah incase you didn;t know about it
[13:49] <Highzz> will do mate, no didn't
[13:49] <DiecastMessiah> there are channels that will not let you join or to chat without it... but once you do that you will be fine
[13:50] <Highzz> DiecastMessiah: is there a channel for python people?
[13:50] <DiecastMessiah> also there will be an area to put in your password to will need to IDENTIFY everytime you connect .. but it a bit different for every program
[13:52] <kk4ewt> Highzz,  what irc client are you using
[13:53] <DiecastMessiah> Highzz: yep can search for it on channel list.. but i see a big one #learnpython
[13:53] <Highzz> kk4ewt: xchat
[13:53] <kk4ewt> server  list channels search for python
[13:53] <Highzz> aaah really should look around before i ask questions bad habit of mine
[14:01] <crackhead> I'm using pigeon and i have a red 1 near the top right of the pigeon app icon as if a message but cant open any other windows or see a message what does it signify?
[14:02] <lexx> Hallo zusammen ?!
[14:03] <DiecastMessiah> pigeon or pidgin ??
[14:03] <beefjoe> lol
[14:04] <crackhead> lol the latter
[14:04] <crackhead> must be all the crack anyways what does it mean?
[14:05] <DiecastMessiah> mmm i use pidgin myself but i think it means you are set to "Do Not Disturb" or set to away
[14:06] <DiecastMessiah> where do you see this red icon.. in the app itself or in ubuntu panel
[14:06] <lexx> Ich habe keine ahnung wie das hier abläuft:-) Aber mein englisch ist zu bescheiden für eine schirftliche Unterhaltung
[14:07] <akik> !de
[14:07] <crackhead> no am definitely available atm
[14:07] <crackhead> on the panel
[14:08] <lexx> Dankeschön ubottu!
[14:08] <beefjoe> Hi, all of my ubuntu 16.04 icons turned black and the unity dash is all black as well
[14:09] <crackhead> left of screen where all my other application laucher(quick) are
[14:10] <DiecastMessiah> mmm no idea why.. but looking into it brb
[14:10] <crackhead> its a little 1 in a red bubble on the pigin launcher button
[14:10] <crackhead> with 1 inside it which is white
[14:11] <crackhead> https://imgur.com/a/yQkPJ
[14:12] <crackhead> see for ur self
[14:12] <beefjoe> the unity launcher is all black, no icons nothing
[14:12] <beefjoe> any ideas ?
[14:14] <Space-Duck> beefjoe, you could try running: initctl restart unity-panel-service
[14:14] <beefjoe> Space-Duck I tried it, didn't work :/
[14:14] <Space-Duck> Bummer, that was all I had
[14:14] <beefjoe> hehe
[14:15] <DiecastMessiah> oh i never use it for IRC .. maybe it was a notice.. and it just stuck there
[14:15] <crackhead> lexi Ich spreche Deutsch nicht, aber ich habe Google Translate ist jemand, der Ihnen hilft
[14:17] <beefjoe> This is how it looks https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
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[14:20] <Hulio> hi guys, good morning
[14:20] <Hulio> Ubuntu is fast
[14:21] <crackhead> anyone know the ubuntu offtopic channel exact syntax
[14:24] <ni1s> crackhead: #ubuntu-discuss ?
[14:24] <ni1s> crackhead: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:24] <crackhead> :)
[14:26] <crackhead> how do i identify with services is that registering my nickname
[14:34] <Tin_man> crackhead, /msg NickServ identify <Password>
[14:36] <beefjoe> any ideas how to fix this https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
[14:37] <crackhead>  /msg NickServ identify <Password>
[14:37] <crackhead>  /msg NickServ identify hello
[14:38] <CookieM> https://forum.rizon.net/showthread.php?18-How-to-Register-my-Nickname
[14:39] <crackhead> thanks
[14:57] <beefjoe> any ideas how to fix this https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
[14:58] <DiecastMessiah> !ask | Beefjoe
[14:59] <DiecastMessiah> !details
[15:00] <beefjoe> Black icons and black launcher on Ubuntu 16.04
[15:00] <beefjoe> happened after I booted up my laptop like I normally do
[15:01] <beefjoe> This screenshot show the black launcher and on the left all icons are black as well https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
[15:03] <DiecastMessiah> k i am newbie here.. so someone will help inwhile.. but to be sure did you remember installing thing new or maybe have change videos drivers before this problem started. Again i cannot help but i sure someone will
[15:06] <beefjoe> haven't done anything special other than the regular update. when I hold on an icon I can see it with colors which is weird
[15:12] <DiecastMessiah> K i maybe worng but i guess it missed up the theme.. i could be easily worng.. but you could try changing the them in the system settings ->appearance
[15:12] <DiecastMessiah> theme**^^
[15:13] <beefjoe> I tried changing the icons pack as well as the theme using unity tweak, but still the same problem
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> beefjoe: sorry been tring to search the web for your problem no good... but luck .. but if wait someone who what they doing will help ya out.. its just slow right now it will pickup after a bit
[15:37] <beefjoe> hehe no problem DiecastMessiah
[15:37] <beefjoe> Thanks a lot for your effort!
[15:42] <ni1s> beefjoe: See if you can recreate that using a completly new user
[15:43] <beefjoe> or as guest ?
[15:45] <beefjoe> nils seems to be ok using a new user
[15:45] <beefjoe> what could it be then :O
[15:45] <ni1s> beefjoe: no clue, but it seems to be a configutation problem
[15:46] <beefjoe> tried removing .config folder but didn't help..
[15:48] <ni1s> beefjoe: might be overkill but you could try reomving all your ~/.foo directories
[16:26] <davide> guida per impare finch
[16:51] <beefjoe> on Ubuntu 16.04 all icons and launcher are black. tried changing the theme/icons still same problem.
[16:52] <beefjoe> https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
[16:52] <beefjoe> I did nothing new, it happened right after I booted up like I normally do.
[16:56] <Tin_man> beefjoe, did you try rebooting to see if it fixes it?
[16:56] <beefjoe> Yes, rebooted twice
[16:56] <samsepi0l> hello~
[16:57] <Tin_man> check the monitor connections?
[16:58] <Space-Duck> beefjoe, or graphics card drivers
[16:58] <beefjoe> Logging in as a guest works fine
[16:59] <beefjoe> so not sure if it has to do with the drivers..
[16:59] <Space-Duck> yeah, thats a different story
[16:59] <Space-Duck> you gots a messed up setting some wheres
[17:01] <ioria> beefjoe, already tried  unity-tweak-tool -> launcher -> restore defaults    ?
[17:01] <Tin_man> maybe try to reset your desktop.
[17:03] <Tin_man> beefjoe, might look here >> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/how-to-reset-ubuntu-desktop-to-default
[17:06] <beefjoe> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006621/2-15-18-compiz-update-broke-unity
[17:07] <beefjoe> but unity seems to be installed..
[17:07] <beefjoe> Tin_man restoring didn't fix it..
[17:08] <ioria> beefjoe, it's not the desktop , just the launcher (dash) ... right ?
[17:08] <Tin_man> hmmm, don't know then.. someone else might be able to help, if no one helps ask again in a while.
[17:09] <beefjoe> the launcher and the icons on the left
[17:09] <beefjoe> I shared a screenshot
[17:09] <beefjoe> if I hold the icon I can see it's colors
[17:09] <beefjoe> otherwise it's all black
[17:09] <ioria> beefjoe, ok, it's not about that bug, i guess
[17:10] <beefjoe> hmm
[17:10] <beefjoe> :/
[17:10] <ioria> beefjoe, already tried  unity-tweak-tool -> launcher -> restore defaults    ?
[17:10] <Tin_man> from the screen shot though the whole screen and desktop is black.
[17:10] <ioria> Tin_man, look at bottom
[17:10] <Tin_man> yes the gray icons, and one white one
[17:10] <beefjoe> it's only the launcher and icons
[17:11] <beefjoe> ioria already tried restoring, yes
[17:11] <Tin_man> do you have a black desktop as a background?
[17:11] <beefjoe> well why would it change suddenly if it's not the bug ?
[17:11] <beefjoe> no I still have my background
[17:11] <beefjoe> and top bar as well
[17:12] <Tin_man> how old is the install?
[17:15] <Tin_man> might also look here, don't know if it will help, but might give it a try. >> https://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-no-unity-no-launcher-no-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-quick-tip/
[17:15] <beefjoe> around a year
[17:16] <beefjoe> I'll check it and report back
[17:16] <beefjoe> Thanks!
[17:20] <faezeh> why do i have problem with chrome updated on ubuntu 14.04? any ulr i give it bringes gstatic
[17:21] <faezeh> gstatic on ubuntu chrom
[17:21] <faezeh> any one can help?
[17:25] <fareast> ok I am now running linux finally
[17:26] <fareast> for the simple reason of it was easy to install
[17:26] <fareast> is there someone around to discuss applications?
[17:26] <Triffid_Hunter> fareast: now the hard part begins :P
[17:26] <fareast> no I have been around since Mandrake
[17:26] <fareast> its easy for me
[17:27] <fareast> I was running compiz fusion on old graphics systems that noone else seemed to support
[17:27] <Triffid_Hunter> mandrake somehow destroyed one of my soundcards
[17:27] <fareast> that is kinda hard to believe.
[17:27] <fareast> you prolly just blew a capacitor
[17:27] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah I have no idea how that happened, but somehow it did
[17:28] <fareast> rule of thumb with hardware don't buy cheap amd boards
[17:28] <Triffid_Hunter> even after cold-booting back into windows it was hosed
[17:28] <Triffid_Hunter> didn't know jack about hardware at that point though
[17:28] <fareast> <-- lol currently running amd
[17:29] <fareast> well old hardware was alot more sensitive that is for sure
[17:29] <fareast> until board manufacturers started to jump on the bandwagon
[17:30] <fareast> as far as ubuntu software
[17:30] <fareast> I am curious.
[17:30] <fareast> what are some apps
[17:30] <fareast> libre office and gimp
[17:30] <fareast> is there a winamp alternative?
[17:30] <fareast> or possibly a dj program?
[17:31] <fareast> I am looking for a all in one software like patchmypc that brings you to the tech software area
[17:31] <fareast> you guys ever run patchmypc?
[17:31] <fareast> patchmypc.net
[17:32] <fareast> its like ninite.
[17:32] <fareast> but bettert.
[17:32] <Allanis> You could use audacious
[17:32] <fareast> better.
[17:32] <Allanis> It's real nice.
[17:32] <fareast> I seen audacious
[17:32] <fareast> it has shoutcast stations and such
[17:33] <fareast> I like how ubuntu has been doing temp sensors out of the box
[17:33] <fareast> linux has come a long way
[17:33] <Allanis> If you want music editing software, then there is ofc Audacity.
[17:34] <fareast> Is there anything like virtual dj or sorato?
[17:34] <fareast> I like to make mixes I beat mix.
[17:34] <Allanis> Mixxx?
[17:34] <fareast> yeah
[17:35] <fareast> that would be awesome to say I was djing from linux
[17:35] <Allanis> Serato DJ I think is Linux too.
[17:35] <fareast> well its not free
[17:35] <fareast> at least I don't think
[17:35] <fareast> I had the damndist time with serato on a windows 8 machine
[17:36] <fareast> usb drivers all corrupted windows update not working you know the usual windows stuff
[17:36] <Allanis> Mkay, try Mixxx then.
[17:36] <akik> let's concentrate on ubuntu support
[17:36] <fareast> ok does it do bpm?
[17:37] <Space-Duck> fareast, theres an app call Hydrogen that I use to make beats
[17:37] <fareast> I want to be able to take a set list and scan the bpm organize it and roll with it
[17:37] <Space-Duck> like a fruitloop thingy
[17:37] <fareast> fruityloops
[17:37] <fareast> I have used that before
[17:37] <akik> fareast: there's the kxstudio repository if you want to use daws
[17:37] <fareast> I don't like all the added effects I get that with crossfade
[17:38] <fareast> hiphop and club already has effects into their beats
[17:38] <Space-Duck> fareast, you probably want mixxx
[17:38] <fareast> I got yelled at because the club owners thought the fire alarms were going off.
[17:38] <fareast> haha
[17:39] <fareast> mixxx looks legit
[17:40] <fareast> as far as mac facetime and imessage has anyone made a port to linux yet?
[17:40] <fareast> I mean macs use linux kernal right?
[17:41] <Allanis> Uhm nope.
[17:41] <fareast> how is my cpu sitting at 22 degrees celcius lol
[17:41] <beefjoe> on Ubuntu 16.04 all icons and launcher are black. tried changing the theme/icons still same problem.
[17:42] <Allanis> But Google Hangouts could work?
[17:42] <beefjoe> on Ubuntu 16.04 all icons and launcher are black. tried changing the theme/icons still same problem.
[17:42] <beefjoe> I did nothing new, it happened right after I booted up like I normally do.
[17:42] <fareast> try to update the box
[17:42] <fareast> goto your software update
[17:42] <fareast> update everything
[17:42] <Space-Duck> fareast, I believe its a matter of Apple being asshats and making facetime a close network
[17:42] <yosefrow_> hey guys, how do i get the roiginal package maintainers version of any conf file for any package ?
[17:42] <fareast> I had it running in a vm
[17:42] <yosefrow_> original*
[17:43] <fareast> on high sierra and other predecessors
[17:43] <yosefrow_> for example, I want to see the package maintainers version of nginx.conf and I can't find it anywhere online. But I feel like there must be an easy way to view it
[17:43] <fareast> you had to spoof the hardware id's in the config files
[17:43] <Space-Duck> yosefrow_, look for it on github
[17:44] <fareast> I have been wanting to mac a hackintosh but that is just crazy work
[17:44] <yosefrow_> Space-Duck, How do i find the github repo of a specific package?
[17:44] <yosefrow_> Space-Duck, there are many confusing repos called nginx
[17:45] <fareast> also is there a full blown android emulator out yet?
[17:46] <fareast> more business apps really need to support linux. I feel that is a big problem.
[17:49] <beefjoe> on Ubuntu 16.04 all icons and launcher are black. tried changing the theme/icons still same problem.
[17:49] <beefjoe> I did nothing new, it happened right after I booted up like I normally do.
[17:49] <beefjoe> https://i.imgur.com/y2RIWpv.png
[17:50] <Space-Duck> yosefrow_, you can get an example config from github https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=nginx.conf&type= or you can do some thing like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[17:50] <Allanis> beefjoe: That's cool. :P
[17:50] <beefjoe> -.- lol
[17:50] <Allanis> install gconf-cleaner
[17:51] <beefjoe> what's that
[17:52] <Allanis> It's a tool to clean out conf files and various other things.
[17:52] <Allanis> It might solve your problem.
[17:52] <yosefrow_> Space-Duck, thanks. This is helpful. However, I was wondering if there is some central repo where I can simply browse the package maintainer's files
[17:52] <beefjoe> E: Unable to locate package gconf-cleaner
[17:52] <Allanis> Uh. Sec.
[17:53] <Allanis> Hm.
[17:53] <beefjoe> does stacer work ?
[17:53] <Allanis> https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnome/gconf-cleaner
[17:54] <Space-Duck> yosefrow_, like https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:54] <Allanis> beefjoe: Not sure. Right now I'm not sure that gconf-cleaner will even fix it. Just a hunch.
[17:55] <Space-Duck> beefjoe, had you tried making a new user?
[17:55] <beefjoe> Yes
[17:55] <Space-Duck> still happens?
[17:55] <beefjoe> nope
[17:56] <beefjoe> looks good
[17:56] <Space-Duck> yep, you gots a f***ed stting
[17:56] <Space-Duck> *setting
[17:57] <Space-Duck> move to a new user acct or compare the two accounts
[17:57] <beefjoe> :((
[17:59] <Allanis> beefjoe: Actually, do a sudo apt-get install light-themes
[17:59] <beefjoe> light-themes is already the newest version (14.04+16.04.20171116-0ubuntu1).
[17:59] <Allanis> If you have black background also, try gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true
[18:00] <beefjoe> The background hasn't change
[18:00] <beefjoe> changed
[18:00] <Allanis> Mkay.
[18:01] <Allanis> Only other thing I could suggest, is grabbing the unity-tweak-tool and playing with the icon themes in there.
[18:01] <Allanis> toggle the theme install or something.
[18:01] <yosefrow_> Space-Duck, is there a git repo for each package or something like that?
[18:01] <yosefrow_> Space-Duck, how are packages developed?
[18:02] <Allanis> yosefrow_: Still looking for nginx repo?
[18:02] <yosefrow_> Allanis, yes
[18:02] <Allanis> https://github.com/nginx/nginx
[18:02] <yosefrow_> Allanis, but is this maintained by debian?
[18:02] <yosefrow_> or ubuntu
[18:02] <yosefrow_> doesnt look like it
[18:02] <Allanis> Nope, by nginx.
[18:03] <Allanis> Right, I see what you want..
[18:03] <yosefrow_> I specifically want to see the git repos which are used by the mysterious "package maintainers"
[18:04] <yosefrow_> It never bothered me before, but now I feel like this is something that must exist somewhere and I would really like to see it
[18:04] <Allanis> I suppose you could see if nginx tag their commits. when versioning.
[18:04] <Allanis> Then see what version you have installed?
[18:04] <Allanis> Yeah, I'm not sure the package maintainers will have the source published.
[18:04] <yosefrow_> Allanis, in other words track their contributions and find their repos that way?
[18:04] <Allanis> Interesting.
[18:05] <Allanis> yosefrow_: Yep, pain in the ass.
[18:05] <Allanis> But I suppose that's one way.
[18:05] <yosefrow_> Allanis, I thought Ubuntu was an Open Source ecosystem >>
[18:05] <yosefrow_> <<
[18:05] <Younix_> Why is it so difficult to create a bootable USB drive on Ubuntu?
[18:05] <Allanis> What about apt-get source <package> >
[18:06] <p_> sup
[18:06] <yosefrow_> Allanis, you're the best!
[18:06] <Allanis> yosefrow_: ^.^
[18:06] <Allanis> Younix_: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#0
[18:06] <Allanis> There is also a windows one too.
[18:06] <Allanis> It's simple.
[18:06] <yosefrow_> Allanis, how did you discover this command?
[18:07] <Allanis> yosefrow_: *shrugs*
[18:07] <Allanis> I know Linux?
[18:07] <yosefrow_> let me guess? man pages?
[18:07] <yosefrow_> xD
[18:07] <yosefrow_> lol, well thanks a bunch
[18:07] <Allanis> Nope. it just accured to me that actually you can just grab the package source.
[18:07] <Allanis> Np.
[18:07] <yosefrow_> exactly the answer I was looking for :)
[18:08] <beefjoe> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1007415/black-unity-launcher-and-icons
[18:08] <yosefrow_> now to raid various package source for their config files
[18:08] <Allanis> Have fun.
[18:08] <Allanis> I'm curious about yosefrow_'s problem.
[18:08] <yosefrow_> Allanis, my problem is that I'm too curious about everything :P
[18:09] <Allanis> That's not a problem.
[18:09] <Allanis> Keep being curious.
[18:09] <Younix_> Allanis: yep. no good. once i select the windows ISO and my USB drive, "make startup disk" is still greyed out
[18:09] <yosefrow_> I just wanted to get the original nginx conf that came with my nginx package and I saw all these convoluted commands for backing up your conf and then pulling the package conf and I said "There *has* to be a bettre way"
[18:09] <Allanis> Younix_: what platform are you making the bootable drive on?
[18:09] <yosefrow_> in the past I wanted other original confs as well
[18:09] <Younix_> Lubuntu.
[18:10] <yosefrow_> It would be dumb if there wasnt a command like apt source nginx
[18:10] <Allanis> Are you using startup disk creator?
[18:10] <Younix_> Allanis: yes
[18:10] <akik> Younix_: here's a guide for making the windows bootable usb stick in ubuntu: https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/how-to-create-a-bootable-uefi-gpt-windows-10-usb-stick-in-ubuntu/
[18:10] <Allanis> Do you see that the device is connected?
[18:11] <Younix_> Allanis: yep
[18:11] <Allanis> Hm.
[18:11] <Allanis> Try akik's link?
[18:11] <astralemp> https://system76.com/laptops <-- in terms of cost-effectiveness, how does this compare to other preinstalled ubuntu options?
[18:11] <akik> Younix_: writing the windows iso on the usb stick is not supported in ubuntu's apps
[18:11] <akik> (no idea why)
[18:11] <Younix_> akik: sounds a little biased?
[18:12] <akik> Younix_: what do you mean?
[18:12] <Younix_> can't make bootable windows sticks on a linux platform
[18:12] <Younix_> bias.
[18:12] <Allanis> Oh I saw these astralemp.
[18:12] <akik> Younix_: you can but it's not so straight forward
[18:12] <akik> Younix_: i.e. it won't boot if you just write it
[18:13] <Allanis> They are budget laptops.
[18:13] <Younix_> akik: i don't understand that link
[18:13] <Younix_> export USB_PARTITION=/dev/sdxn
[18:13] <Younix_> ?
[18:14] <Younix_> the device is /dev/sdb
[18:14] <akik> Younix_: one partition will be created on the usb stick
[18:14] <Younix_> okay
[18:14] <akik> Younix_: so you can set it as /dev/sdb1
[18:14] <Younix_> so /dev/sdb1?
[18:18] <Younix_> akik: do i need to put the .iso somewhere
[18:18] <Younix_> that /mnt/win10-mountpoint ?
[18:19] <akik> Younix_: keep the iso where you have it available in ubuntu, the mountpoint is just an empty directory where the iso will be mounted on
[18:19] <Younix_> see, this is confusing. it looks like it's for a disk that is inserted
[18:20] <Younix_> yea but, with those instructions..there's no where that's allowing me to select the iso
[18:20] <Younix_> oh wait
[18:20] <Younix_> nvm
[18:20] <Younix_> i see.
[18:21] <Sircle> how to add a user via commandline?
[18:21] <Allanis> sudo adduser
[18:22] <Allanis> To give directory and shell etc:
[18:22] <Allanis> sudo adduser [username] -m -s /bin/bash
[18:23] <Allanis> sudo passwd [username]
[18:23] <Sircle> all why not useradd?
[18:23] <Allanis> Sorry useradd.
[18:23] <Allanis> Typeod.
[18:23] <Sircle> are you sure?
[18:23] <Allanis> Mhm.
[18:24] <rollingubuntu> hello!
[18:24] <rollingubuntu> I've noticed a weird thing
[18:24] <rollingubuntu> using ubuntu 17.10
[18:24] <rollingubuntu> after install, I created another user
[18:24] <rollingubuntu> (not administrator)
[18:25] <Younix_> akik: well maybe this will work. i appreciate your help. you too, Allanis
[18:25] <Younix_> Both of you...marry me immediately.
[18:25] <rollingubuntu> and logging in from that user, I am able to access the main user's home folder and all it's files
[18:25] <Allanis> Younix_: Finally a guy who wants me. :P
[18:25] <Allanis> yw.
[18:25] <Younix_> haha :P
[18:25] <akik> Younix_: it'll work :)
[18:25] <beefjoe> Allanis got any other ideas ?
[18:26] <Allanis> beefjoe: Sorry, I'm not sure.
[18:26] <Sircle> why would I not want to have home directory and shell access of a user? Allanis?
[18:26] <rollingubuntu> how is this possible?
[18:26] <Allanis> I don't even use the ubuntu desktop environment. so I was limited to what I could suggest anyway.
[18:26] <Sircle> Allanis, are you sure on the command (useradd or adduser)?
[18:27] <Allanis> Sircle: You don't want the user to have a home directory?
[18:27] <Allanis> And yes useradd
[18:27] <Allanis> rollingubuntu: is the main user password protected?
[18:27] <Sircle> why would anyone not want to have home directory and shell access of a user? Allanis?
[18:28] <ducasse> rollingubuntu: the default permissions of home dirs are set that way (unless the homedir is encrypted, iirc)
[18:28] <Raonall> Im having problems trying to install ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64. I have tried install the it inside windows 7. Can any one help?
[18:29] <Allanis> Sircle: There isn't many cases where one wouldn't. but you have to explicity state it in useradd that you want it.
[18:30] <rollingubuntu> ducasse: what are you talking about? /home/adminuser is owned by adminuser and is in the adminuser group and /home/standarduser is owned by standarduser and belongs to the standarduser group
[18:30] <Allanis> Sircle: adduser will actually create all the needed stuff, so sure, just use that (Me is getting old, still using depricated stuff).
[18:31] <ducasse> rollingubuntu: yes, and the permissions for 'other' are set to r-x
[18:31] <rollingubuntu> ducasse: why would someone do that? :) usually, linux is high on security...
[18:33] <akik> Allanis: what's deprecated now? people use that word too often
[18:33] <ducasse> rollingubuntu: just modify the permissions how you want them, no biggie
[18:34] <Allanis> akik: I was telling Sircle to use useradd (I'm used to it from Debian).
[18:35] <Allanis> But adduser would be a better option for him anyway.
[18:35] <akik> Allanis: yea it's not deprecated
[18:36] <akik> i have no idea where ubuntu announces the commands that are being deprecated. would be interesting to bookmark it
[18:36] <um1b0zu> is there a man page for understanding users, groups and file ownership
[18:36] <akik> !permissions
[18:36] <um1b0zu> thx
[18:38] <Sircle_> what will this do? sudo chgrp -R developer-group /var/www/html
[18:38] <Sircle_> sudo find /var/www/html/ -type d -exec chmod g=rwxs "{}" \;
[18:38] <Sircle_> sudo find /var/www/html/ -type f -exec chmod g=rws  "{}" \;
[18:38] <akik> Sircle_: it changes the group ownership of /var/www/html to developer-group recursively
[18:39] <akik> Sircle_: the two last lines change the directory permissions (type d) and file permissions (type f)
[18:40] <Sircle_> akik,  why the last two lines are needed?
[18:42] <akik> Sircle_: it'll go through the whole directory recursively
[18:57] <pZombie> Is the JVM performing much better on linux?
[18:58] <Sircle_> akik,  wasn't the first line enough?\
[18:59] <pZombie> this is just crazy. My program inside vmware using a lightweight linux lubuntu distro does 1.4m cycles per second while native on windows only 1.33m per second
[19:00] <malerx> Hello friends!
[19:01] <Sircle> I made directory permission changes and now I have git status and diff says all files modified. It is not letting me take pull from origin master. What should I do? old mode 100644
[19:01] <Sircle>  new mode 100755
[19:02] <Ivan7> Sircle: 100755
[19:03] <Ivan7> Use force, Lyk
[19:03] <Sircle> Ivan7, what do you mean?
[19:03] <Ivan7> I'm black Jew.
[19:04] <Ivan7> i know premission.
[19:04] <UBUroi> EveniNg guys? couLd you heLp me i got sOme problem with thE keyboArd and selecTion with The mouse
[19:05] <UBUroi> i dont undErstAnd why the keyboard doesnt work prOpErly lmooK at this
[19:05] <Allanis> Lol!¬
[19:05] <UBUroi> its not even on purpose
[19:05] <Allanis> We see your problem. But do you want to tell us it anyway?
[19:06] <UBUroi> numbers DoNt work whEn In tyPe? caps lock is errAtical and i cAnT reallY select one file with the mouse withour selectiNG othEr
[19:06] <Allanis> UBUroi: It's a feature not a problem. :D
[19:06] <TJ-> UBUroi: do you have more than 1 keyboard connected? What connection does it use? Is it Bluetooth, or USB, or PS/2 ?
[19:06] <UBUroi> sorry if im terrible...
[19:07] <TJ-> UBUroi: I'd guess some liquid spilt into the keyboard :)
[19:07] <UBUroi> i try tO underStand the stuff. its a mechanicAl keyboard on a laptop? was working fine until recentLy
[19:07] <Allanis> His mouse is affected also though.
[19:07] <UBUroi> also when i seleCT text? it doesnt select rEgUlarly
[19:07] <TJ-> UBUroi: what make/model of PC ?
[19:08] <UBUroi> it does select the whOle teXT the oppOstie wAy and you cant put the cursor between two lettErs it dOes just higlght
[19:08] <TJ-> UBUroi: I'm wondering if the input devices are on USB and there's a USB issue. Do you have external USB devices also connected when this happens? If so, have yyou tried removing everything external?
[19:09] <beefjoe> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1007415/black-unity-launcher-and-icons
[19:09] <UBUroi> i did try to Remove thEsEs inPuts 5mouse aNd Keyboard° but nothing happends. HowEvEr i can plug my HarDdrIve via usb nO problem
[19:10] <TJ-> UBUroi: there is a test you can do to determine if it is hardware or the Linux OS - reboot and press Escape to get to the GRUB boot menu. Press 'c' to enter command-line mode, and try typing and see if you get the same problem there. If you do NOT then the issue is likely with Linux
[19:10] <UBUroi> actually i have another issue
[19:10] <UBUroi> i Cant get the sound in my hEadphones
[19:11] <UBUroi> see about the selectIon? whEn i cLick? i get a whole selection Of Text
[19:12] <UBUroi> and when i write as now? THE ARROWS highlight the text instead of moving cursor
[19:12] <DiecastMessiah> could there be a problem with xorg configs??
[19:12] <DiecastMessiah> oh maybe the is a key stuck like shift
[19:12] <sand> :part
[19:13] <UBUroi> ok i pressed caps lock a couple of times. seems better
[19:13] <Allanis> beefjoe: Are you using GTK?
[19:13] <DiecastMessiah> what the commnad for testing the keys again vmx or something
[19:14] <UBUroi> the mechanic is fine. im pretty sure all of thIs happend when I changed the office theme
[19:14] <UBUroi> oR when i close KOnveRsation and it crashed maybe
[19:15] <UBUroi> another hint. every time i open a folder It goes in a new wiDows so it gets veRy crowded very quickly
[19:15] <beefjoe> Allanis yes
[19:16] <Allanis> I'm wondering if the issue is there and not Ubuntu.
[19:19] <UBUroi> my scrollwheel is affected as well
[19:20] <akik> Sircle_: type d is for dirs and type f is for files
[19:20] <Allanis> beefjoe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/926144
[19:21] <akik> Younix_: did it boot? (windows usb stick)
[19:23] <Allanis> beefjoe: have you also tried restarting unity?
[19:24] <Allanis> dconf reset -f /org/compiz && setsid unity
[19:24] <Allanis> unity --reset-icons
[19:26] <beefjoe> yea that didn't work either
[19:26] <beefjoe> what does the first command do ?
[19:27] <Allanis> It resets compiz assuming your using it.
[19:27] <Allanis> Did you check the link I gave you?
[19:28] <beefjoe> right now yea
[19:28] <beefjoe> hmm
[19:29] <beefjoe> interesting
[19:29] <beefjoe> but this one looks old
[19:29] <Allanis> You're right it is old.
[19:29] <Adran> is it possible using mdadm to detect the order of a raid 10 drive pair?
[19:30] <beefjoe> unity --reset-icons didn't do anything
[19:30] <beefjoe> but I executed that first command again
[19:30] <beefjoe> and now it's all good :O
[19:30] <Allanis> Ohwow.
[19:30] <beefjoe> had to do with compiz then
[19:30] <Allanis> So it was compiz.
[19:31] <Allanis> Nice, I wasn't sure if it would help, just thought why not give it a go.
[19:31] <Allanis> :P
[19:31] <beefjoe> https://i.imgur.com/2lAmXrI.png
[19:31] <beefjoe> Thanks a ton!
[19:31] <Allanis> No problem, I'm happy it was solved. I was a little confused over it.
[19:32] <TJ-> Adran: yes; use mdadm --examine
[19:33] <fapenci0> hi?
[19:33] <DiecastMessiah> UBUroi left but i am pretty sure his problem was shift was stuck down or some crazy file thinks shift was held down lol
[19:34] <beefjoe> <3
[19:34] <Allanis> DiecastMessiah: A stuck shift key would not have caused his mouse to screw up though. :S
[19:35] <TJ-> I've seen that kind of issue with USB-connected input devices when something else on the bus is messing it up electrically
[19:36] <Allanis> TJ-: Seems most likely to be something like that.
[19:40] <gpd> hello can someoane help me whit dual boot? because i google everthing and nothing help
[19:41] <Adran> TJ-: no devices found
[19:43] <DiecastMessiah> !ask gpd
[19:44] <DiecastMessiah> !ask | gpd
[19:44] <gpd> i had wind 7 and ubuntu 13 everthing worked fine now i formated my pc new win 7 new ubuntu 16
[19:45] <gpd> the boot menu gives me only ubuntu to chose and ubuntu advace
[19:45] <DiecastMessiah> did you update on ubuntu yet
[19:45] <DiecastMessiah> like sudo apt-get update and than sudo apt-get upgrade ??
[19:45] <gpd> i have boot-repair 2 said everthings ok/!
[19:46] <Adran> gpd: so your menus disappeared? grub in /etc/grub can be updated to add back those
[19:46] <DiecastMessiah> for me it fixed grub.. i
[19:46] <gpd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rXmW32n4GM/
[19:47] <gpd> i am quite new on linux but i did trid everthing i found on ubuntu comunity..:)) and cant doit
[19:53] <DiecastMessiah> gpd: did you update with termial commands.? just asking because i had that but luckly grub was configured during the updates
[19:53] <gpd> i did that only whit terminal
[19:55] <gpd> funny is i have this boot-repair and for everybody else seams to work repairing the grub but not for me!
[19:56] <BVale> hi have a question, i installed cinnamonn on ubuntu 17.10 by using apt-get... how can i switch back to the default wdm ?
[19:57] <Allanis> Logout.
[19:57] <Allanis> when you log back in, before inputting your password, you'll see a cog icon.
[19:57] <Allanis> You can select wm from there.
[19:57] <BVale> okay,
[19:58] <DiecastMessiah> gpd did you reinstall windows? also or just reinstall ubuntu
[19:59] <gpd> i did reinstall windos and after ubuntu
[19:59] <BVale> re
[19:59] <BVale> hm no there is nothing to switch
[19:59] <BVale> just cancel and login
[19:59] <Allanis> Hm.
[20:00] <Allanis> Is there a ubuntu icon maybe?
[20:00] <Allanis> Near your username.
[20:00] <BVale> no
[20:00] <Allanis> Then perhaps it's not configured sec.
[20:01] <DiecastMessiah> yeah windows kills the grub bucause it rewiter the MBR i think... but reinstalling grub didn;t work ??
[20:02] <DiecastMessiah> but not time.. reinstall windows first and than do ubuntu and this not happen
[20:02] <DiecastMessiah> next^
[20:02] <Allanis> BVale: just to check:
[20:02] <Allanis> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[20:03] <Allanis> Go to where it says logout, do you see anything at all like that? even though on 17.10 it will be slightly different.
[20:03] <BVale> no, nothing like this
[20:03] <BVale> just my name in the center of screen and i can click on it
[20:03] <Allanis> Mkay. It can be configured. But I forget, so sec.
[20:03] <BVale> :) ok
[20:04] <gpd> dont know its just what i did instaled windows after ubuntu and i was planning to do my drivers on win but surprize i am trying for 3h to fix my dual boot
[20:06] <ioria> BVale, 17.10 ? https://dl-web.dropbox.com/s/q0nafxhbsdk7qw5/0001_Login.png
[20:06] <BVale> yes, but there is no thing to switch the desktops :/
[20:06] <BVale> the rest looks exactly like this
[20:07] <ioria> BVale, what items do you have in 'Sign in' ?
[20:07] <BVale> there is no gear to choose from
[20:08] <Allanis> BVale: Go to /usr/share/xsessions/*desktop
[20:08] <ioria> BVale,  you mean a 'Sign in' without a sog ?
[20:08] <BVale> sog ?
[20:08] <Allanis> Can you pastebin me the contents of it.
[20:08] <ioria> *cog
[20:09] <BVale> cinnamon2d.desktop  cinnamon.desktop  ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop
[20:09] <Allanis> Uhm.
[20:10] <Allanis> I'm guessing you are using cinnamon.desktop?
[20:10] <Allanis> Paste me the file with pastebin or something or other plz.
[20:10] <BVale> yes, couse i cant switch to the standart ubuntu at the moment
[20:10] <Allanis> Unless it's just a one liner.
[20:10] <Allanis> You will need root.
[20:11] <BVale> wich of them u need ?
[20:11] <Allanis> I'm assuming you are using cinnamon.desktop, so we'll start with that.
[20:13] <BVale> https://pastebin.com/X85WWPwZ
[20:14] <Allanis> Ok. Looks ok to me.
[20:14] <BVale> maybe i just do a new install :/
[20:14] <Allanis> Try adding NoDisplay=false to all of them.
[20:14] <ioria> BVale,  reboot
[20:15] <BVale> ok i try the reboot first
[20:15] <BVale> brb
[20:17] <BVale> back
[20:17] <BVale> the reboot did it, now i have this gear to choose from
[20:17] <Allanis> Ohnice.
[20:18] <Allanis> Have fun!
[20:18] <BVale> :)
[20:18] <BVale> thx
[20:18] <akik> Allanis: what an option! NoDisplay=false
[20:18] <darkdrgn2k4> anyone know i can increase the size of an existing img file (dd dump) so that i can add another partition to it?
[20:19] <Allanis> Inorite!
[20:19] <JPSman> Hello, I am using 16.04 and I am trying to connect to my Google Nexus 7.  Ubuntu just doesn't see it.
[20:20] <Allanis> jmtpfs /mount/point
[20:21] <palomer> Hey everyone, I've been struggling trying to compile something I wrote 3 years ago
[20:21] <srig> Ubuntu updated last night and took out grub, I'm not sure how.  (the HD wouldn't boot at all).  I created a live usb, and set up a chroot to be able to reinstall grub.  It will now boot off the hd, but not into ubuntu.  The drive has 3 partitions - sdb1 and 2 are boot/efi, and sdb3 is an encrypted drive that has lvm with ext4 inside the lvm.  When grub tries to boot, it says, "failed to connect to lvmetad.  Falling back to device scanni
[20:22] <srig> is there an incantation I have to add to the grub.cfg or somewhere to get it to boot?  I think before it was actually not installed as an efi boot, but that might be wrong
[20:22] <palomer> I'm getting the error "Error: Unbound module Cohttp_lwt_body" even though I have this line in my tags: <authenticator_main.*>: package(cohttp.lwt),
[20:23] <palomer> and I did opam install cohttp-lwt-unix
[20:23] <JPSman> Allanis, when I plug the device into my computer, I don't even get the option on the device to use it as MTP
[20:24] <Allanis> JPSman: is it showing in lsusb?
[20:24] <um1b0zu> darkdrgn2k4 imagemagick
[20:24] <darkdrgn2k4> filesystem not jpg
[20:24] <um1b0zu> wait nvm
[20:24] <darkdrgn2k4> sorry
[20:24] <palomer> Does anyone know how to figure out how to make the Cohttp_lwt_body module available to my source file?
[20:24] <um1b0zu> haha
[20:24] <darkdrgn2k4> tound truncate.. never mind :)
[20:24] <JPSman> Allanis, I just tried a different USB cable and its working :|
[20:24] <Budgii> Can someone tell me what happened to my folder I moved? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3wnPbxKXk6/
[20:25] <JPSman> Allanis, Thank you for trying
[20:25] <Allanis> Ok. Nice.
[20:26] <Allanis> darkdrgn2k4: Sorted?
[20:27] <ioria> Budgii, take a look at your /
[20:27] <Allanis> Budgii: sudo chown -R alien:alien scripts
[20:27] <Allanis> Ohyeah
[20:27] <Allanis> Didn't even see that. :P
[20:28] <Guest53293> mmm
[20:28] <Budgii> Allanis, what will that do?
[20:28] <Allanis> Budgii: disregard, ioria answered you.
[20:29] <Allanis> mv scripts/ python/
[20:29] <Budgii> ioria, I know I used format /foo /bar/, but the folder is now gone. how can i find it?
[20:29] <ioria> Budgii, gone ? with  the wind ?
[20:30] <Allanis> Well, you moved it to /python
[20:30] <yosefrow_> Budgii, basically mv scripts/ /python/ and ./python are differnt
[20:30] <travessia> test
[20:30] <yosefrow_> the path /python is the full path
[20:30] <yosefrow_> the path ./python means current-directory/python
[20:31] <Budgii> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BwrJ6pRs4s/
[20:31] <yosefrow_> Budgii, try ls /python
[20:32] <yosefrow_> I assume it will have the contents of your scripts folder
[20:32] <Budgii> thanks yosefrow! I just need to find it in folder now.
[20:32] <Budgii> I can find it in terminal, how can I find it in folder now?
[20:32] <Allanis> It's on the root of your filesystem.
[20:33] <Allanis> So go up as many levels as you can.
[20:33] <Allanis> And it will be there.
[20:33] <Allanis> Btw, I suggest moving it back to your user director.
[20:33] <Allanis> mv /python/ ~/
[20:33] <yosefrow_> Budgii, if /python is now /scripts, you can move it back to your directory with mv /python ~/python/scripts
[20:34] <yosefrow_> this will mv it to ~/python which is your real python directory, and rename it to scripts
[20:34] <Budgii> thank you all!
[20:34] <Budgii> and yosefrow_, I was getting a little nervous because I lost all of my code. LOL
[20:35] <yosefrow_> Budgii, yeah I can understand, Its a good practice to use git to avoid those kinds of worries
[20:35] <Allanis> yosefrow_: did curiosity kill the cat yet? :P
[20:35] <yosefrow_> you can use a free service for code like bitbucket or gitlab to store your code remotely
[20:35] <Budgii> yosefrow_ what is 'git'?
[20:36] <Budgii> ohhhh
[20:36] <yosefrow_> Budgii, git is a source control system that is diff based, meaning you commit code and it stores the changes in each commit
[20:36] <yosefrow_> then you can push your git repo to a remote repo and have it stored there
[20:37] <yosefrow_> if you dont want to learn git yet you can just backup your code with some free file hosting service like google drive or dropbox
[20:37] <Budgii> yosefrow_, so you're saying if I edit the file it updates it on the server? :D
[20:37] <Allanis> You push changes to the server.
[20:37] <yosefrow_> Budgii, git is a bit more complicated than that. You have to push it manually, usually
[20:37] <Allanis> And they get indexed,  so you can later review those changes etc.
[20:37] <Budgii> got it. I think i'll wait for now, as i'm novice with python and linux at the moment.
[20:37] <yosefrow_> Budgii, but once you learn git, it will change your life as a programmer
[20:37] <Budgii> ah, like waybackmachine for your own code. cool.
[20:38] <yosefrow_> Budgii, yes, that and more
[20:38] <Budgii> yosefrow_ can you send me a link so I can add it to my to do list?
[20:38] <yosefrow_> Budgii, you will never be stuck with filenames like code.real.v1. code.really.real.v2.4
[20:38] <Budgii> Please and thank you :)
[20:38] <yosefrow_> code.old.new.real.2.3
[20:38] <Allanis> github.com || bitbucket.org
[20:38] <yosefrow_> !git | Budgii
[20:39] <yosefrow_> !github | Budgii
[20:39] <yosefrow_> oh well
[20:39] <yosefrow_> !gitlab
[20:39] <yosefrow_> meh
[20:39] <Budgii> oh, I've heard of github
[20:39] <Budgii> I just thought it was an online place to share code. I guess I can interact with it through terminal?!
[20:39] <Allanis> Yep, you can use git locally without pushing to a remote host.
[20:39] <yosefrow_> github is for storing open source code for free unless you want to pay, then you can privately host code there or at least thats how its been for a while
[20:39] <yosefrow_> Budgii, yeah
[20:39] <Allanis> But it's always nice to use a good service, especially if you plan to calloborate with someone in the futyre.
[20:40] <yosefrow_> github also lets you edit files in your browser, deal with issues, review commits
[20:40] <yosefrow_> Allanis, I'm still curious about everything. I dump all my data/ideas into google keep these days
[20:40] <yosefrow_> keep.google.com
[20:41] <yosefrow_> I used to use text files. That got old quick
[20:41] <Allanis> yosefrow_: I was talking specifically about your nginx configs.
[20:41] <yosefrow_> Allanis, I was working out the best way to enter maintenance mode
[20:41] <yosefrow_> Allanis, I'm still not sure. require more tests
[20:42] <yosefrow_> My gut feeling is that I will have a site file called maintenance that will somehow override other server_name directives when enabled
[20:42] <yosefrow_> maintenance.conf
[20:42] <Budgii> what's keep.google do?
[20:42] <yosefrow_> keep.google.com is a place to store notes
[20:42] <yosefrow_> hosted by google
[20:42] <yosefrow_> there is no api for it yet. But people are fighting for one
[20:42] <yosefrow_> so hopefully there will be a command line tool soon
[20:43] <yosefrow_> If I could find a solution with a ui like google keep and a git backend I would use it in a heartbeat
[20:44] <Allanis> yosefrow_: that sounds like something useful.
[20:45] <yosefrow_> Allanis, I have high opes for it
[20:45] <yosefrow_> high hopes*
[20:45] <yosefrow_> that either google will open an API or someone will create an OS tool backed by git
[20:45] <Allanis> Stop it. You're giving me idea's. And I can't add another project to my list. :P
[20:45] <yosefrow_> lolol
[20:45] <yosefrow_> xD
[20:45] <Adran> by the time the api gets released they'll discontinue keep
[20:46] <yosefrow_> Adran, you familiar with keep?
[20:46] <yosefrow_> Honestly if you want I would help code it Allanis
[20:46] <Adran> i've used keep
[20:46] <yosefrow_> Maybe you can borrow code from wiki.js
[20:46] <Budgii> neat. thanks yosefrow_. I just added a README.md through terminal to my GitHub, I already had an account I guess. Thanks!!
[20:46] <Allanis> Well, I'd go down the native application route.
[20:46] <Allanis> C++/QT.
[20:46] <yosefrow_> Budgii, awesome! you're on your way to painless coding. just remember to push your code and commit frequently
[20:47] <Allanis> yosefrow_: come to my channel #SaraCraft if you want to discuss it. Let's keep this Ubuntu.
[20:47] <Budgii> I'm going to attempt putting one of my scripts up there now. :D
[20:47] <Budgii> yosefrow_, what's the bitbucket again?
[20:47] <Budgii> *for
[20:49] <yosefrow_> Budgii, like gitlab, but you can keep your code private there. You can do the same in gitlab. Personally I recommend GitLab
[20:49] <yosefrow_> like github*
[20:49] <Budgii> I was going to say, ha
[20:49] <yosefrow_> unless you want to keep your code open source
[20:49] <Budgii> okay. so to private your code you pay
[20:49] <Budgii> otherwise I should be good with github?
[20:50] <yosefrow_> when you go for job applications, it pays to have a well populated github account
[20:50] <yosefrow_> yeah
[20:50] <Budgii> ah.. like a code resume. thanks for the advice!
[20:50] <yosefrow_> no problem
[20:53] <Budgii> I need a snipping tool for sharing images via URL, I used to use gyazo but not really wanting to use that ever since i've moved to linux. suggests?
[20:56] <Allanis> https://pasteboard.co/ ?
[20:58] <palomer> I fixed my problem:) It's actually Cohttp_lwt.Body and not Cohttp_lwt_body (it's been changed in the last 2 years)
[20:58] <palomer> adios!
[20:58] <Handover901> Hi, where are the logs located if the GUI in Ubuntu crashes? I cannot leave my PC on for more than 20-30 minutes until the GUI crashes and i cannot do anything
[20:58] <Handover901> I have to reinstall Ubuntu for the 4th time
[20:58] <Allanis> /var/log
[20:58] <Handover901> ty
[20:59] <Handover901> Allanis, have u heard of my problem before though?
[20:59] <Allanis> Handover901: No, sorry. I use dwm.
[20:59] <Handover901> dwm?
[20:59] <Allanis> Mhm.
[21:00] <Handover901> i mean, what is dwm? never heard of it
[21:00] <Handover901> what does it stand for
[21:00] <Allanis> d windows manager?
[21:01] <Allanis> :P
[21:01] <Allanis> https://dwm.suckless.org/
[21:02] <akik> Handover901: could be in $HOME/.xsession-errors, in systemd journal (you might need to enable the persistent journal), /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:03] <Handover901> hmm, thanks. I think this is happening if i update ubuntu
[21:09] <omgwtf> I somehow lost my /home partition while making a bootable usb. I didn't double check, and used history to dd to /dev/sdb1. Computer locked up, and I did reisub, and now I can't log in (graphical interface).
[21:11] <Txlinux> test
[21:11] <Adran> omgwtf: not sure about recovery, but you could start over recreate the partition and a user directory
[21:14] <iNeedHealing> can I ask problems about ubuntu budgie here ? since no one there seems to take me seriously and it's an official community distro
[21:15] <Allanis> Hi iNeedHealing. Just ask. it'll be answered it's known.
[21:15] <Allanis> it it's*
[21:15] <iNeedHealing> if it's :P
[21:15] <Allanis> :)
[21:15] <Allanis> Shutup.
[21:15] <iNeedHealing> ok, my computer gets stuck loading serices while trying to load the installer
[21:15] <iNeedHealing> haha sorry :P
[21:16] <iNeedHealing> it gives me ENOTTY
[21:16] <iNeedHealing> and complains about GPU lockup
[21:16] <iNeedHealing> (I'm assuming it gets over the lockup part since it displays fine)
[21:17] <Outy> Handover901: you should check your pc for hardware errors
[21:18] <Outy> Handover901: when starting ubuntu you should have the grub boot screen. select memtest and let it run for at last 3 passes. if you have no selection screen on boot hold shift while booting
[21:19] <Allanis> Sorry iNeedHealing no idea.
[21:19] <Handover901> hey guys, so my GUI is crashing after installing Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop and I want to copy logs. Which log file should I copy from /var/log to post on Ubuntu forum for help?
[21:19] <iNeedHealing> it's fine, as long as you don't give me crap about my windows that I resolved already lmao
[21:19]  * Allanis gives iNeedHealing crap about windows.
[21:20] <iNeedHealing> :P
[21:20] <Handover901> hmm okay Outy
[21:20] <iNeedHealing> kept telling me it was bc my NTFS partition is RO but I just bloody installed normal ubuntu 17.10 without hassle
[21:20] <iNeedHealing> oh well .. guess some people don't read properly
[21:21] <Outy> Handover901: /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg
[21:21] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: questions: 1) which release version are you trying to install? 2) what is the make/model of the PC (or which GPU model does it have) ?
[21:21] <iNeedHealing> 17.10, MSI GeForce 1050 Ti
[21:22] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: And /Ubuntu/ 17.10 installer ran OK?
[21:22] <omgwtf> Adran: could you be more specific? i am running testdisk now, but I don't fully understand what I'm doing :p, or even really what i messed up. my /home was on /dev/sda
[21:22] <iNeedHealing> yes
[21:22] <Handover901> thank you outy
[21:22] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: Have you done a checksum verification of the Budgie install image?
[21:22] <iNeedHealing> yes
[21:22] <Handover901> also how could i do memtest if when i turn on the PC, it boots right into the login screen?
[21:22] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: Of the ISO file, or of the image on the install device itself ?
[21:22] <iNeedHealing> ISO and verified image with installer
[21:23] <iNeedHealing> installed image *
[21:23] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: OK, is it the Budgie 17.10 installer?
[21:23] <iNeedHealing> that's the one giving me problems yes
[21:23] <Outy> omgwtf: your data is gone! dont waste your time.. dd overwrites. you cannot rescue anymore
[21:23] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: OK, which ought to be using the same ubiquity installer - let me check if that is the case
[21:24] <Outy> omgwtf: except it did overwrite yust a few mb or gb   than you can save the sorry rest
[21:24] <iNeedHealing> I'm pretty sure it's the ENOTTY that's screwing me
[21:24] <iNeedHealing> I'm using USB stick
[21:24] <Handover901> one last thing, i want to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y" into terminal but I want all output from the terminal written on a text file
[21:24] <Handover901> so I can copy what was updated
[21:25] <BVale> hm i downloaded blender from blender.org, where do i have to put it, that it can be added to the application bar and so on ?
[21:25] <omgwtf> Outy: the image was only 4gigs, and i don't even know if it finished before i rebooted. also, i'm not certain i overwrote my home... it just seems like it.
[21:25] <Handover901> BVale, did u install it?
[21:25] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: right, but that implies that is because the video driver hasn't loaded/isn't working
[21:25] <BVale> just unzipped it, i can start it by double clicking it
[21:26] <iNeedHealing> really ?
[21:26] <BVale> the ubuntu software store, dont have to right version, soo i need to use the version from the blender site
[21:27] <iNeedHealing> I thought ENOTTY was mostly because of inputs not being detected correctly
[21:27] <Outy> omgwtf: was there any very important data on it ???
[21:27] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: TTY == TeleTYpe == console; NOTTY means no tty available for console
[21:28] <omgwtf> Outy: Yes.
[21:28] <iNeedHealing> the error said "not a typewriter" which implies ENOTTY is input issue
[21:30] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: I'm reading the 17.10 release notes for budgie; it says there it's the first version using the ubiquity installer, so it's possible they've not quite got it correct as yet.
[21:30] <iNeedHealing> aight
[21:31] <iNeedHealing> as you suggest
[21:31] <Outy> omgwtf: than you could use testdisk -> no log -> /dev/sdb -> intel -> analyse
[21:31] <Outy> omgwtf: that should take n hour or two
[21:31] <omgwtf> Outy: thank you, i will do that.
[21:32] <Outy> omgwtf: that is for searching to get infos of lost file system, then hope it will be discovered
[21:32] <Outy> omgwtf: maybe you need to choose further option deep search - do that too
[21:32] <Outy> omgwtf: when done write me =)
[21:33] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: If you've installed /Ubuntu/ successfully, maybe you could just "apt install ubuntu-budgie-desktop" ?
[21:33] <omgwtf> Outy: ok thank you :)
[21:33] <Adran> TJ-: are you familiar with mdadm?
[21:33] <iNeedHealing> I'll do so
[21:35] <TJ-> Adran: Yes
[21:36] <Adran> TJ-: running out of experience and options https://gist.github.com/Ttech/47cccbc4eafd0455dd1f23b5d187073a
[21:36] <Adran> not sure how to proceed to protect the data if any exists still
[21:36] <Adran> the drives are working, the nas exploded
[21:37] <cariveri> how to prevent ssh server from running on start up? Id liek to start it manually when ever I need.
[21:37] <Adran> cariveri: systemctl disable ssh
[21:38] <yosefrow_> Adran,  physically exploded?
[21:38] <TJ-> Adran: Are you sure there's a PT on there? It could be a plain whole-disk LVM. Try "sudo blkid /dev/md411"
[21:38] <Adran> yosefrow_: it decided that its flash storage was silly and decided to get corrupted
[21:38] <cariveri> Adran: doesnt that also dsiable ssh connections as a whole?
[21:38] <Adran> cariveri: not active ones
[21:38] <yosefrow_> cariveri, systemctl disable openssh-server
[21:39] <Adran> TJ-: /dev/md411: TYPE="LVM2_member"
[21:39] <yosefrow_> cariveri, sorry i meant systemctl disable ssd.service
[21:39] <yosefrow_> sshd.service
[21:39] <yosefrow_> dammit wheres my coffee
[21:40] <TJ-> Adran: there you go! "sudo pvscan /dev/md411" or/and "sudo vgchange -ay" then "ls /dev/mapper/"
[21:41] <seed_> hello
[21:41] <Outy> hello
[21:42] <cariveri> yosefrow_: Adran  Perfect . thanks guys!
[21:43] <Adran> TJ-: pv scan: too many parameters on command line?
[21:44] <yosefrow_> cariveri, which command did you run to disable it?
[21:44] <TJ-> Adran: haha sorry, that's me, try "sudo pvs /dev/md411"
[21:44] <Adran>   Failed to find physical volume "/dev/md411".
[21:44] <TJ-> Adran: but "sudo vgchange -ay" should active the VG and any LVs, so "ls /dev/mapper/" will list the LVs
[21:46] <TJ-> Adran: try "sudo pvs --verbose /dev/md411" in case it reveals anything about the missing metadata
[21:46] <Adran> TJ-: Using physical volume(s) on command line.   Wiping cache of LVM-capable devices  Failed to find physical volume "/dev/md411".
[21:47] <TJ-> Adran: is it active? "cat /proc/mdstat"
[21:47] <TJ-> Adran: it might be rebuilding still
[21:47] <Adran> TJ-: md411 : active (read-only) raid10 sda3[0] sdd3[3] sdc3[2] sdb3[1]
[21:48] <Adran> I assembled it read only in case of any data problems
[21:48] <Adran> why is that list out of order 0.o shouldn't it be sda3 sdb3 sdc3 sdd3
[21:49] <TJ-> Adran: right, so, unless this os a problem with it being set to read-only, it looks like 'blkid' sees some LVM metadata which is why it reports LVM2_member, but possibly that is corrupted so LMV itself cannot understand it
[21:49] <cariveri> yosefrow_: yours. the systectl one
[21:49] <TJ-> Adran: is the system you've got these disk on running the same kernel version that the disk were working with? (difference in versions can sometimes cause newer metadata not to work with older kernels)
[21:50] <Adran> TJ-: possibly slightly newer
[21:51] <Adran> i can try to downgrade
[21:51] <TJ-> Adran: try "sudo pvdisplay --debug --ignorelockingfailure --verbose /dev/md411"
[21:51] <Adran> Failed to find physical volume "/dev/md411".
[21:51] <TJ-> Adran: No; newer looking at older is fine; it's older looking at newer that can be a problem if features from 'newer' were used that 'older' doesn't understand
[21:52] <Adran> TJ-: nope its def newer
[21:52] <TJ-> Adran: hmm, you know, "failed to find" sounds like it's not even locating the /dev/md411 node. What does "ls -l /dev/md411" show?
[21:53] <Adran> brw------- 1 root root 9, 411 2018-02-19 00:32 /dev/md411
[21:53] <TJ-> Adran: OK, so it is a (b)lock device node, not a symlink
[21:54] <Adran> yeah
[21:55] <TJ-> Adran: I'm wondering if this system has some metadata under /etc/lvm/ you can use; there may be something in archive/ or backup/
[21:55] <Adran> 	valid_devices=[ 		"/dev/md411", ...
[21:56] <TJ-> Adran: look in /etc/lvm/archive/ for a file with VGNAME_xxxxx.vg
[21:56] <Adran> no archive
[21:56] <TJ-> Adran: is this using the OS that originally managed this LVM VG ?
[21:56] <Adran> no
[21:57] <TJ-> Adran: ahhh, that'll be why
[21:57] <Adran> that OS is gone
[21:57] <TJ-> Adran: And no separate backups?
[21:57] <Adran> sorta, Loss of about 4 months beacuse the backup trigger got disabled. :(
[21:57] <TJ-> Adran: because without those we can't even do a manual PV recovery using pvcreate --uuid --restore ...
[21:58] <Adran> yeah the entire reason this started is the flash failed on my nas
[21:59] <TJ-> Adran: Hmmmm; recovering access to the LVM without is a big, complicated, manual, task
[21:59] <TJ-> Adran: if you've got backups even from some time ago those should be useful if the geometry of the LVM hasn't been changed since they were made
[22:00] <MrHall> Hello, someone know how can i change cpu frequency on boot? beacuase if i change with tools like cpupower when i reboot the OS lost that changes
[22:00] <Adran> blah
[22:01] <TJ-> Adran: try this "sudo vgchange -an --partial"
[22:02] <TJ-> Adran: it may report the UUID which is one of the values you need
[22:02] <Adran>   PARTIAL MODE. Incomplete logical volumes will be processed.
[22:02] <TJ-> Adran: was that all? No uuid's ?
[22:04] <Adran> TJ-: thats all it showed
[22:04] <TJ-> Adran: try this, and pastebin the result: "hexdump -n 1024 -C /dev/md411"
[22:05] <Outy> MrHall should have waited for an answer a little longer... what are people expecting here - getting an answer in under 3 secs?
[22:05] <Adran> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/Ttech/8937fd7a7fbf0a491b415663f331ddb4
[22:07] <yosefrow__> Outy, service expectations have risen
[22:07] <TJ-> Adran: well that's progress; the UUID is the 32 bytes starting at offset 0220 (2 lines)
[22:08] <yosefrow__> Outy, They should add "expected response time 5 mins - 1 hour" to the motd or something
[22:08] <Outy> yosefrow__: i had the answer =)  but now he is on his own
[22:09] <Adran> TJ-: i hope so :(
[22:09] <yosefrow__> Some people have the impression that this is an official support channel with paid volunteers
[22:09] <Outy> yosefrow__: you want to say that i dont get paid here ??? what the ... ^^
[22:14] <TJ-> Adran: I think I have a way to capture the metadata; give me a moment to confirm it here
[22:14] <Outy> omgwtf: how is it going ?
[22:18] <angrybread> is this a good place to ask questions
[22:18] <Adran> generally yes
[22:18] <Adran> if you ask the question
[22:18] <TJ-> Adran: OK, try this, then pastebin the resulting file. "dd if=/dev/md411 bs=1200K count=1  | strings > /tmp/lvm-data.log" then "pastebinit /tmp/lvm-data.log"
[22:19] <Adran> TJ-: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Ttech/cca4ab027f7ec12161a8849b48d125fd/raw/59891b36573459f579f8163b0aaf0f9162005ad3/gistfile1.txt
[22:20] <Budgii> Just something cool i found: sudo apt install speedtest-cli ;speedtest-cli; run a speedtest right from terminal. pretty good.
[22:21] <angrybread> just learning how to use linux and doing stuff in the terminal window and my end goal is to compile a file using avr-gcc for an adruino...i think i need to use makefile but not sure...is there a good site that explains this in very basic terms so a beginner could easily understand
[22:21] <TJ-> Adran: does that look like your complete LVM data ?
[22:22] <omgwtf> Outy: i haven't even gotten to do that yet. i'm still waiting for another scan :p
[22:22] <Outy> omgwtf: okay =)
[22:23] <Outy> omgwtf: you can read this in the meanwhile: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[22:24] <Adran> TJ-: it looks like data repeated, dev_size is if that is in bytes, only ~23gb?
[22:25] <TJ-> Adran: we may not have captured all the data; might need to capture more. At the end of the file is there still intelligable lines of text, or is it short lines of random characters?
[22:26] <Adran> still ascii
[22:26] <TJ-> Adran: OK, so increase the block size and do it again, until you get random ascii at the end of the file
[22:29] <Adran> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/Ttech/7f494754eb2d726c1493f263891c97fc
[22:29] <Adran> added hexdump
[22:30] <Handover901> Hey, so my Ubuntu Desktop kept crashing before and I always have to reinstall it. I decided to get a copy of syslog before and after I update for the first time
[22:31] <Adran> sounds like drivers
[22:31] <Handover901> sec, uploading
[22:31] <Handover901> before update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KbWM4BMRkb/
[22:31] <Budgii> Hi all, is there a channel where I can discuss hardware upgrade for laptops?
[22:32] <Adran> Budgii: there's ##hardware
[22:32] <Budgii> thanks!
[22:32] <Handover901> after update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gJQW5pdM56/
[22:32] <Adran> but i don't think its disallowed here
[22:32] <Handover901> Adran, i posted the logs, what do u think
[22:33] <TJ-> Adran: It looks like there /may/ be enough there to rebuild the /etc/lvm/archive/vg1-x-${date}.vg file. Does "sudo blkid /dev/md411" should a UUID, and if so, does it match the PV UUID in the metadata you've extracted ?
[22:34] <Adran> ahh i thought i sent the blkid
[22:34] <Adran> one sec
[22:34] <Adran> TJ-: yes
[22:34] <iNeedHealing> so TJ-, what do you suggest I do now ? re-download 17.10 ?
[22:34] <Adran> Handover901: i don't see anything specific at tim of crash
[22:34] <Handover901> the server didnt crash yet on this pc
[22:34] <Handover901> its going to crash
[22:35] <Handover901> Ubuntu GUI does not crash immediatly, it takes time but if i leave it overnight, it is garunteed to crash
[22:35] <Handover901> So far, all I installed was TeamViewer & Virtualbox
[22:35] <Handover901> I can paste the logs for that if u want
[22:35] <iNeedHealing> I do have Ubuntu 16.04 somewhere, should I install that then system-upgrade ?
[22:36] <Adran> Handover901: whats helpful is right before the logs, your system is still going to be writing
[22:36] <Adran> reboot, look at the last set and see whats happening at crash
[22:36] <Handover901> okay will do
[22:39] <Jack3k3> hello, I have ubuntu installed on a virtualbox, it was working fine but it froze up so i turned off the virtualbox nand back on, now it shows the ubuntu loading screen and then goes an all black screen with a static/frozen cursor at the top. nothing else happens
[22:39] <Jack3k3> any ideas????
[22:40] <iNeedHealing> TJ-: could I just download Ubuntu Server 17.10.1 and install budgie over that ?
[22:40] <Adran> Jack3k3: reboot, hit escape and go to recovery, see if there was some disk errors
[22:42] <intx> hi! what's the ubuntu package that tells you what package you need to install when you type the name of a program you don't have installed?
[22:42] <TJ-> Adran: OK, provided the extracted data is /ALL/ the LVM metadata, you've got the basis for recreating the /etc/lvm/archive/vg1-xxx.vg file which can be used with vgcfgrestore
[22:43] <TJ-> Adran: /however/ before doing that there needs to be a /complete/ backup of the md411 device because even the slightest mistake will cause corruption
[22:43] <Adran> :|
[22:44] <hal90001> test
[22:44] <Adran> i have no way to backup the entirety of this volume
[22:44] <hal90001> test
[22:45] <hal90001> re
[22:45] <yeats> hal90001: do you have a support question?
[22:45] <Adran> TJ-: well, thank you for your help
[22:45] <Adran> more then i could have one
[22:46] <Outy> yeats: no i give answers here =)
[22:46] <yeats> intx: command-not-found
[22:46] <Outy> yeats: most of the time =)
[22:47] <yeats> Outy: ok
[22:47] <intx> yeats: thanks :)
[22:49] <TJ-> Adran: I'd suggest you do some reading about vgcfgrestore, and look at some specimen /etc/lvm/archive/*.vg files created on a test rig - that'll help you see what to expect in a valid .vg file, and how close the extracted text is to that already. I do data recovery so for me it'd probably be about 4 hours work, so it is possible. For you I'd expect 5 times that, including time spent on test-rig experimenting
[22:49] <TJ-> with the procedure to verify the steps
[22:49] <omgwtf> Outy: I don't know what i'm supposed to be seeing.
[22:49] <Adran> yeah
[22:52] <Outy> omgwtf: if deep scan is finished and if ur lucky you should see that the list shows a file system like ext2/3/4
[22:52] <TJ-> Adran: the thing to be aware of is this: the extracted data may be more than is required. That area may have been written with more text on a previous occassion than was written most recently, so you have to be careful to ensure you get just the latest 'write' by carefully following the metadata structure blocks with the { .. } and [ ... ] markers
[22:53] <Outy> omgwtf: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step   see: A partition is missing: deeper search
[22:53] <Adran> TJ-: LVM sounds awful
[22:53] <TJ-> Adran: in other words,, older data at the end is not overwritten by never data; new writes just use less bytes
[22:53] <Jack3k3> Adran, how would i check for disk errorsr in recovery? im in a shell now
[22:54] <TJ-> Adran: actually it's fantastic - keeping it's metadata as text makes recovery trivial, unlike with binary metadata formats
[22:54] <Outy> omgwtf: if a partition is found you can select it with arrow keys and hit p to list files - if files are available you can copy
[22:54] <omgwtf> Outy: 2 of the partitions found in /dev/sda come back with "support for this filesystem hasn't been enable during compilation
[22:54] <Adran> Jack3k3: the menu should say fsck
[22:54] <omgwtf> Outy: the 3rd has like linux kernels in it
[22:54] <omgwtf> Outy: and grub etc
[22:54] <Adran> TJ-: when its detected
[22:55] <Adran> TJ-: question though, if i remount/assemble the raid array non-readonly
[22:55] <Outy> omgwtf: wasnt it sdb you where supposed to scan ?
[22:55] <Adran> and lvscan,pvscan etc are run, could that damage the data?
[22:55] <Jack3k3> Adran, I tried that, no errors. However Im in the terminal and I just got a few messages from dmsg i believe: [TIME] Timed out waiting for device dev-di...\x2da844\x2db1453ea545c4.device [DEPEND] Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-...3cc-f9e7-4160-a844-b1453ea545c4 [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Swap.
[22:56] <omgwtf> Outy: there isn't one? i was trying to write to sdb when all this happened, but i am pretty sure my /home is always on sda
[22:56] <omgwtf> Outy: testdisk doesn't show any sdb
[22:56] <Adran> Jack3k3: oh thats interesting, not sure why swap would be failing, whats your fstab?
[22:56] <grkblood13> I completely wiped my sd card with shred --delete and now I can't see the card with fdisk -l or gparted but I can dd to it with dd of=/dev/sdb. How do I recognize it to format it in this situation?
[22:56] <TJ-> Adran: those tools won't write... the problem is your OS probably has /lib/udev/rules.d/* rules that call "vgchange -ay" or similar, which will activate the volumes which is when will could be written. So you might want to temporarily disable any such rules so the PVs are treated passively to begin with.
[22:57] <transhuman> Hi oracle virtualbox is slow as molasses on xenial anyone encounter this problem?
[22:57] <ikonia> useless description transhuman
[22:57] <ikonia> if you can't even describe the problem clearly, you'll struggle to get help
[22:58] <Outy> omgwtf: hmm - how many harddrives are build into your computer then ?
[22:58] <omgwtf> Outy: just one
[22:58] <transhuman>  when I run oracle virtualbox the whole system slows down to a crawl
[22:58] <omgwtf> Outy: but its a mess of lvm partitions and luks /home
[22:58] <Outy> so there is no sdb... and you didn't overwrite anything with your dd command
[22:58] <transhuman> one vm running windows 10
[22:58] <ikonia> transhuman: so you're saying when you are running a single VM guest in virtual box, your host machine is slow - not the guest
[22:58] <transhuman> and I mean real slow
[22:59] <Jack3k3> Adran: fstab https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sqgHZTspVY/
[22:59] <transhuman> both the system and the vm
[22:59] <Adran> Jack3k3: blkid please
[22:59] <ikonia> transhuman: and what resources does your machine have, and what resouces have you given to the VM
[22:59] <transhuman> 64 bit svm
[22:59] <ikonia> transhuman: where (what repo) did vbox come from ?
[23:00] <transhuman> 4 gig to vm out of 12 gig
[23:00] <ikonia> transhuman: svm ?
[23:00] <transhuman> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[23:00] <transhuman> yes virtualization on amd
[23:00] <ikonia> transhuman: so I'd sugget you remove that and use the one provided by the ubuntu repos
[23:00] <Outy> omgwtf: can you do lvs in terminal ? and screen it
[23:00] <transhuman> vbox 5.2
[23:00] <ikonia> that would be the starting point
[23:01] <transhuman> whats wrong with that link?
[23:01] <transhuman> should I use another
[23:01] <ikonia> transhuman: I'd also be looking at what resources where in use on the guest
[23:01] <ikonia> and the host
[23:01] <ikonia> and see if one resouce was being used enough to slow things down
[23:01] <Jack3k3> Adran: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ht6xTNDV3W/
[23:01] <transhuman> top tells me its vbox that is taking up the resources
[23:01] <Adran> fdisk -l /dev/sda Jack3k3
[23:02] <ikonia> transhuman: what resouce is it taking up
[23:02] <transhuman> like 90 percent of cpu
[23:02] <Outy> transhuman: has to do with the newly intel cpu bug patches
[23:02] <transhuman> 5 gig of ram and like 5 gig of swap on a  new install of windows 10
[23:02] <ikonia> transhuman: so there is a virtualisation setting on most bios's for the cpu to support virtual extensions, make sure that is enabled
[23:03] <ikonia> transhuman: and again I suggest you use the version of vbox that is supplied by the ubuntu repos
[23:03] <Outy> transhuman: i use v 5.1.32 everything is good with that
[23:03] <Jack3k3> Adran, screencap since i cant copy/paste and typing it out is getting tiring lol https://imgur.com/a/1m5Qx
[23:03] <transhuman> ok i will look at those things thanks
[23:04] <Adran> Jack3k3: ti
[23:04] <Adran> your swap changed
[23:04] <Adran> you can either enter the new blkid or set swap to be /dev/sda5 instead of the blkid
[23:05] <omgwtf> Outy: how do i screen it? i know theres some way to send to pastebin from terminal, and i'm looking for it
[23:06] <transhuman> wtf I am screwed I have some artful and some xenial repos in here, not sure how the hell that happend
[23:06] <Jack3k3> Adran how did the swap change from ubuntu freezing?
[23:06] <Outy> are you on ubuntu
[23:06] <Outy> omgwtf: ubuntu ?
[23:06] <transhuman> is there a fix for that? Can I just upgrade
[23:06] <ikonia> transhuman: I wouldn't do that
[23:07] <ikonia> or trust the state of your machine
[23:07] <transhuman> I really dont know how the hell that happened
[23:07] <omgwtf> Outy: well, mint
[23:07] <ikonia> use mint support then
[23:07] <ikonia> why is it this channels task to support mint
[23:08] <transhuman> so which came first artful or xenial? xenial?
[23:08] <ikonia> xenial
[23:08] <omgwtf> ikonia: this is not a mint specific problem
[23:09] <Outy> omgwtf: im in xubuntu but maybe this works for you as well. i just tab prntscr on my keyboard and i can upload actual screen to imgur
[23:09] <ikonia> omgwtf: you don't know that
[23:09] <ikonia> omgwtf: use mint support please
[23:09] <ikonia> !mint | omgwtf
[23:09] <omgwtf> Outy: i'm in terminal only mode
[23:09] <ikonia> omgwtf: stop please, use the mint support resouces
[23:10] <omgwtf> ikonia: chill out. do u even know what my issue is?
[23:10] <ikonia> omgwtf: I am chilled, hence asking you to take it to the mint channels please
[23:15] <transhuman> is there a quick way to reinstall all packages on the system?
[23:16] <ikonia> nope
[23:16] <transhuman> f*ck I am screwed
[23:16] <transhuman> rebooting thanks
[23:16] <ikonia> please don't swear
[23:16] <ikonia> just backup any data you want
[23:16] <ikonia> re-install
[23:21] <Jack3k3> adran still freezing unfortunately
[23:22] <Jack3k3> another message i noticed that appears on start up for a brief moment "recovering journal"
[23:23] <Adran> Jack3k3: interesting, because i was thinking it was hanging due to the wait for swap
[23:27] <Jack3k3> Adran,back in recovery and just got the same Dependcy failed for swap mesage. /etc/fstab and blkid show same uuid for swap. Should i try to format swap then?
[23:28] <Adran> Jack3k3: swap is already formatted, so the issue is something else, can you look back through the logs from your last boot and see what was hanging? journalctl
[23:35] <hotbakedpotato[m> anyone know if appamor needs to be enable to use with firejail or not needed since ubuntu already uses apparmor?
[23:41] <Athonathonathon> For some reason grub is not booting the most recent kernel by default. I have 4.13.0-32-generic installed but `uname -r` returns 4.10.0-33-generic
[23:41] <Athonathonathon> Any ways to figure out why?
[23:42] <Outy> Athonathonathon: maybe sudo update-grub helps ?
[23:42] <Athonathonathon> I've tried that
[23:43] <Athonathonathon> along with sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:43] <bazhang> which version of ubuntu is this Athonathonathon
[23:44] <blue1> Athonathonathon: would this help?  http://www.pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[23:44] <Athonathonathon> Kubuntu 17.10
[23:45] <bazhang> Athonathonathon, how was that most recent kernel installed
[23:45] <Athonathonathon> I'm pretty certain it came with a usual sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[23:46] <bazhang> !info linux-image-generic
[23:46] <Athonathonathon> blue1 not in this case, but that link is definitely helpful. I do have windows on a separate partition and it does like to screw up what is booted first
[23:47] <Athonathonathon> But i haven't booted it in a while
[23:54] <ubuntu-mate> anyone knows about aiml software that could interact with my docs
[23:54] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, aiml?
[23:55] <ubuntu-mate> yes you know anything about it
[23:55] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, give us some idea about it please
[23:57] <ubuntu-mate> the idea imagine a personal software that could read aiml from your desktop without a internet connection
[23:59] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate, is this for a chatbot, or what