[00:02] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/P4nhbj9KVhcbSGuAMhyu my version is more fun. :P
[00:04] <bluesabre> :D
[00:04] <Unit193> Did I show you my (horrible?) mangling of dh_autoreconf?
[00:04] <bluesabre> thanks Unit193 for the upload
[00:05] <Unit193> Now is there anything *I* forgot? :3
[00:05] <bluesabre> :o
[00:05] <bluesabre> hope not
[00:05] <Unit193> bluesabre: http://paste.openstack.org/show/RFImaj7WtTjVrutsXNCK.  Sure thing, hopefully everything is good.
[00:05] <bluesabre> also just uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/4.12.3-4ubuntu2
[00:05] <Unit193> (I did test it of course.)
[00:05] <Unit193> Nice!
[00:05] <bluesabre> lol
[00:10] <knome> time to do something else
[00:10] <knome> ttyl
[07:23] <flocculant> Unit193: yea I could try a working desktop :p and ack for lts
[07:24] <flocculant> bluesabre: if I can get in the loft and find it - got 2 monitors
[08:33] <Unit193> ...3 minutes to build, more than 30 to publish.
[09:22] <flocculant> Unit193: thanks - unfortunately - still got bits missing on desktop right click
[09:22] <flocculant> bbl
[12:36] <Unit193> xfdesktop4 patched yet to come, needed thunar to publish.
[12:55] <Unit193> (It's there now.)
[13:18] <Unit193> ochosi: Did you ever look into using https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/tree/xfce4-session-logout/main.c#n93 here https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/tree/plugins/actions/actions.c#n893?
[13:18] <Unit193> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/187296289/xfce4-panel_4.11.1-0ubuntu1_4.11.1-0ubuntu2.diff.gz something like this would even allow you to do it conditionally.
[13:19] <Unit193> Also, as far as I know, GDM only works for GNOME now, so gdmflexiserver is an odd choice.
[13:23] <flocculant> Unit193: oh right - I get so confused - and easily :p
[13:24] <Unit193> flocculant: Not 100% sure what that'll add, or if you'll have everything now.
[13:24] <flocculant> just upgrading
[13:25] <flocculant> took a logout - but all back which was missing
[13:26] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh you might want to take the patch that's in the PPA for upstreaming?  Easy to refresh, but already done there.
[13:27] <flocculant> Unit193: you know much about indicators and stuff we have now? transmission used to minimise to notification area - and show up in indicators, now it doesn't show in either :D
[13:27] <flocculant> or at least I should check the live session too ...
[13:28] <flocculant> Unit193: thanks for xfdesktop :)
[13:28] <Unit193> 1. Make sure xfce4-indicator-plugin is upgraded if you use indicator-application.  2. Switching to sn-plugin this cycle, but not sure if you added it.
[13:28] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[13:29] <flocculant> Unit193: no upgrades for x-i-plugin available
[13:29] <flocculant> I have sn-plugin from git
[13:29] <flocculant> oh - I have pa-plugin from git
[13:30] <bluesabre> today's iso has the updated x-i-plugin
[13:31]  * flocculant will check transmission there in as long as it takes it to boot
[13:32] <flocculant> bluesabre Unit193 - what is sn-plugin shorthand for ...
[13:32] <Unit193> statusnotifier, sorry but it's just so long. :3
[13:32] <flocculant> :D
[13:32] <bluesabre> snot-nosed
[13:32] <bluesabre> :D
[13:32] <flocculant> ok - so it's installed :p
[13:33] <flocculant> snot and all 
[13:33] <Unit193> (Which I realize is bad because technically sntray exists, but I like to pretend not.)
[13:34] <flocculant> transmission is not appearing in notification and/or indicators in some future version for everyone else then - works in live session
[13:37] <bluesabre> I wonder if the leftover ayatana libraries might be messing things up
[13:38] <flocculant> possible - this install is really due for a blitz tbh - no idea what's going on in it anymore
[13:40] <Unit193> No, it's just a library.  Unless he has ayatana-indicator-application.
[13:41] <flocculant> ii  ayatana-indicator-application
[13:41] <flocculant> that one 
[13:41] <Unit193> Purge it.
[13:41] <Unit193> (I have no idea why that didn't work...)
[13:43] <flocculant> wallpaper at login screen now
[13:43] <flocculant> \o/
[13:45] <bluesabre> woot
[13:45] <flocculant> transmission in notifications now
[13:46] <flocculant> so my weird install then
[13:46] <flocculant> anyway - bbl
[17:48] <ochosi> Unit193: sry, i forgot about that again...
[17:49] <ochosi> btw, on the 2nd of march i plan to takr a day off work to.hack on xfce
[17:49] <ochosi> if there are critical issues we need fixed, i could focus on it then
[17:49] <ochosi> if anybody wants to join, that's more than welcome!
[19:31] <knome> meh, wrong day choice :P
[21:39] <ochosi> knome, Unit193: any of you wanna engage in some thinking of what's the best default/setting for notification body sizes?
[21:40] <ochosi> currently i'm trying to limit the width to a 3rd of the screen maximum and 5 lines of text (after which it gets ellipsized)
[21:40] <ochosi> note that this doesn't work in any of the notifyd releases yet
[21:40] <ochosi> just spent another hour on the various label settings and it seems i may have found something that works
[21:41] <ochosi> only question is what values to set
[21:41] <ochosi> (as in: is 5 lines of body too much/ not enough?)
[21:42] <ochosi> (note that if there are newlines inserted into the body, this label setting breaks and seems to allow for >5 lines)
[21:59] <ochosi> bluesabre: btw, i think i did stumble upon a way to do the custom action i wanted to add to thunar for 18.04 (Printing files): https://github.com/wotomg/thunar-fastprint/blob/master/thunar-print.sh
[21:59] <ochosi> that looks very reasonable, allows LO file printing without the need for adding unoconv
[22:11] <ochosi> if you also don't have concerns, i'd propose that on a branch
[22:17] <ochosi> erm, still no xfpm 1.6 in bionic?