[00:22] Black Fire was added by: Black Fire [00:22] Hi @Stereofont why did you block me? [00:22] @Black Fire, Hey, I think I know you from somewhere! :P [00:23] Im looking around for some good projects to get into :) [00:24] Rubbish at code but I can test all the things. [00:25] @Stereofont I do not think we have any problems. [00:25] @sealofnova, It's possible he doesn't want to talk to you. Don't spam him here. [00:26] @Black Fire, Well, we have documentation for that! And a team! https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/contribute/quality-assurance.html [00:26] Do you have a device that we support? Link to supported devices is in the group description [00:28] As both you and plasma have the nexus 5 im going to be picking one up soon. Can UBp be run in VM until then? [00:29] There isn't an image for that, no. You can install Unity8 in a VM or on regular hardware, but it's not really the same experience [00:30] @UniversalSuperBox, you are acting very hurtful. [00:30] @UniversalSuperBox, No problem im checking nexus 5 prices at the moment. Actually surprised how well they kept their value. [01:03] Actually is there a better recommended device? [01:17] Well, the Oneplus One is a rather fun device. It's missing MTP at the moment [01:18] @UniversalSuperBox, I agree [01:36] christo161 was added by: christo161 [02:12] @UniversalSuperBox, The whole experience isn't exactly the same, but a whole lot of the bugs are the same ;) [02:13] @dohbee, motivational paragraph about anyone being able to contribute to fix bugs [02:14] heh [02:15] hmm, one of the worst things about starting new projects, is having to create web sites [02:20] I created a new website with wix.com [02:21] @PhoenixLandPirate, These are pretty much the only ads I get [02:25] @PhoenixLandPirate, Rhett and Link compell you, as does James Veitch 😆 [02:27] @Schyken, James Veitch ❤ [03:26] BPaiter was added by: BPaiter [03:26] 🖖 [03:28] Hi there! Can talk in Brazilian Portuguese? Or another group? [03:41] Hi @BPaiter welcome! Sure, you can find some portuguese folks in this list of languages as well as other important info. Enjoy! … https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome === allizom1 is now known as allizom [06:07] (Photo, 802x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bjuS0nGC.png [06:07] (Photo, 806x1279) https://irc.ubports.com/rY0wzJAt.png [06:07] It's embarrassing! [06:08] sealofnova was added by: sealofnova [06:08] (Photo, 766x376) https://irc.ubports.com/sQG0at1k.png [06:25] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/8cKWHSFp.mp4 [06:25] Why are you in such a hurry? [06:39] @lungwitz, Why Lionelb ban him? [06:40] omerfaruktemir was added by: omerfaruktemir [06:41] Lionel why banned him? [06:41] I have been there for a long time [06:42] Fwd from UniversalSuperBox: This discussion cannot continue in this group as it is happening in another and should not be fragmented. [06:42] I have seen everything [06:42] And also, be consistent. Are you staying or leaving? [06:42] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/TWstRVtR.png [06:42] I am not Turkish [06:43] I have seen everything [06:43] Turks are right [06:44] @omerfaruktemir, I can't say anything about that, but the way they are expressing themselves here is pretty hostile [06:45] @lungwitz, Yeah surely [06:45] @lungwitz, Lionel why banned him? [06:45] @omerfaruktemir, I don't know. [06:45] You all are being too exaggerated [06:45] @omerfaruktemir, This is more hostile. [06:46] @omerfaruktemir, I can't say that because I don't have the chat log between Viper and Lionel to say if Viper spammed him or what [06:46] @omerfaruktemir, [Edit] I couldn't say that because I don't have the chat log between Viper and Lionel to say if Viper spammed him or what [06:47] @lungwitz, Lionel banned everybody. We stopped support. [06:47] @ranboyaka, You are not really saying anything. Just being childlish. [06:47] I'm not say about viper. [06:47] Be an adult and go through the correvt channels [06:47] [Edit] Be an adult and go through the correct channels [06:48] @deleteus, I speaking about him [06:49] @lungwitz, Are you kidding with me ? [06:49] I'm not turk [06:49] @ranboyaka, Sounds like a whim [06:49] But I have seen everything [06:50] I can only give my view on what happened in this group. The only thing I saw here was Viper being insistent. It isn't clear exactly why they need the admin. [06:51] This is from the Turkish group. [06:51] Fwd from sealofnova: we do not think to start working until at least one Turkish admin. everyone says thats too weird. [06:51] It really sounds unreasonable [06:52] [Edit] This is from the Turkish group: [06:56] Check Turkish in Weblate and Docs [06:56] Old Captain worked hard. [06:57] Now everything is garbage. [06:59] Already only captain worked. The other members did nothing else. [07:00] I agree [07:02] So? [07:02] I don't understand what anything of that has to do with being or not admins of a Telegram group [07:03] It just doesn't make sense to be so adamant about it [07:04] [Edit] It just doesn't make sense to be so catastrophic about it [07:04] @lungwitz, Who are you talking about? [07:05] To the Turkish people who are leaving the ship [07:05] [Edit] The Turkish people who are leaving the ship [07:05] @lungwitz, Lionel banned everybody. I leaved! [07:06] @ranboyaka, Banned from where? [07:06] @lungwitz, Telegram [07:06] If he banned you privately, that's his problem [07:06] @ranboyaka, From a group or privately? [07:06] (Photo, 806x1279) https://irc.ubports.com/FH2shh4M.png [07:06] (Photo, 802x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/VEl78DJe.png [07:06] @deleteus, Look [07:07] @lungwitz, 🤷🏼‍♂ [07:08] 😠 [07:08] @ranboyaka, What the heck? He couldn't, he isn't even a group member, moretheless an admin with ban permissions [07:09] @peternerlich, He's saying Lionel banned them personally, not in the group [07:09] @lungwitz, There is no reason and no problem [07:09] ah well [07:09] @sealofnova, He must have his reasons [07:10] @sealofnova, I don't know them. As I also don't know your reasons to be such a pain about it. [07:10] but that just means he personally stopped contact with you as an individual, this has nothing to do with UBports then [07:10] @peternerlich, Exactly [07:10] @ranboyaka, I still agree [07:11] @omerfaruktemir, So?! WHAT does that have to do with anything? [07:11] I see no relation whatsoever [07:13] [Edit] The Turkish people who are jumping ship [07:14] The Turks had an intense interest, and it will not be anymore. [07:14] @ranboyaka, well then, that's your decision [07:15] But the captain had a lot of hardship. [07:15] and the one of everyone individually, I hope [07:17] You closed the largest source about Turkey's ubports. Congratulations! [07:17] @ranboyaka, I didn't really follow until yesterday, but it is clear that the communication was more than not good [07:18] there were a lot of misunderstandings lingering for too long [07:18] there was the internal structure of the community still almost non existing [07:19] But the captain gave a lot of effort! [07:19] wayne recently estimated that since the creation of UBAM the situation improved by 90% already [07:20] but before, it was super difficult to get a thought across if you didn't talk to the right person already [07:21] (Sticker, 512x384) https://irc.ubports.com/fSw4AScF.webp [07:21] if the right one wasn't listening, it was as if no one said anything about it [07:22] But captain has made many translations , live speaks (Turkish-English) and programmes [07:22] I am proud that we managed to improve this by that amount in that little time, but we forgot who we left behind before [07:23] @ranboyaka, yes, and we never noticed any of it [07:23] @ranboyaka, I think you're not understanding a thing Peter is saying [07:23] @lungwitz, Please explain [07:23] Maybe it's the language barrier [07:24] @ranboyaka, Nobody is saying you didn't contribute. He's saying that it's a communication problem. [07:24] @lungwitz, And I think you don't understand Ran'' saying [07:25] @omerfaruktemir, Yes, I understand. He basically says that they contributed and that Lionel blocked them. I really don't see a major problem to be so angry about. [07:25] we had intended for the UBLangs group to be the brigde from language captains back to us, but there has been almost nothing going on there really about the individual language groups, not only Turkish [07:25] @lungwitz, Then talk to the captain and solve the problem! [07:26] Oi vey [07:26] Who the hell is the captain? [07:26] I don't care about any leaders. Contribution teams should be horizontal. [07:26] @ranboyaka, I agreea [07:27] @ranboyaka, I am not anybody, I never really contributed so I don't feel I can fix anything. … But why doesn't that "captain" of yours go and talk with whoever he needs to? [07:27] I don't get what is the problem [07:28] Fwd from deleteus: When will the weblate translations be transferred? [07:28] Fwd from Flohack: Theoretically this is automatic. But we found issues with the build process. Dalton is investigating [07:28] Fwd from Flohack: All the languages were outdated, not only turkish [07:28] Fwd from Flohack: Normally Weblate merges every Sunday morning. So latest next week we are live, but I can do it manually if a bigger commit is pending [07:28] What's the rush? [07:28] They say they're working on it [07:28] [Edit] They said they're working on it [07:29] @lungwitz, Nobody understand what you're saying [07:29] Maybe you don't understand [07:29] @omerfaruktemir, You need to read better, then. [07:29] Only captain working [07:29] I insist this is purely a communication problem [07:30] :D [07:30] @omerfaruktemir, Who is that captain? [07:30] @omerfaruktemir, what the heck, I do, and it sounds like logical reasoning to me [07:30] Why isn't he hete talking and not you [07:30] @peternerlich, +1 [07:30] @peternerlich, +1 [07:30] @peternerlich, Maybe they don't trally get well the language... [07:30] @peternerlich, [Edit] Maybe they don't really get well the language... [07:31] Dev4Perf is the captain,you still don't know? [07:31] :D [07:31] @omerfaruktemir, but the worst thing to do if you don't understand something is to turn hostile [07:31] @omerfaruktemir, Actually, he resigned. UBAM will evaluate whether to accept him again or not. [07:31] @omerfaruktemir You answer only what you choose to answer. [07:32] @peternerlich, That acronym just kills me 😂 [07:32] What's the rush? [07:32] They say they're working on merging your commits @omerfaruktemir [07:32] Read the messages I forwarded [07:32] PLEASE [07:32] Make the effort [07:33] @peternerlich, +1 [07:33] @lungwitz, From here [07:33] or ask anything you don't understand [07:33] @peternerlich, +1 [07:33] Is Dev4Perf hostile [07:33] ? [07:33] [Edit] Is Dev4Perf hostile? [07:33] @omerfaruktemir, I don't know, but Viper is [07:34] And you [07:34] You don't read my messages, and it's getting a bit frustrating [07:34] Only trying to help, and you're making it really hard [07:34] About hostility or not, please refer to the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct [07:35] which this group and every UBports group is supposed to be under [07:35] though we need to work on that [07:35] I think it's worthless. … There are two options I see. Weather they don't understand or they don't want to understand. In both cases I see nothing else I can do. Goodbye, it's 4AM here. [07:35] https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct [07:36] @lungwitz, good night! yes, we'll see what happens when their ultimatum runs out [07:37] 🌃 😴 [07:37] Almost "good day" ha [07:37] [Edit] Almost "good morning", ha [07:37] @lungwitz, Yo can't say that to me [07:38] 🤦‍♂️ [07:38] @omerfaruktemir, You don't read my messages. That's hostile. [07:38] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/gPcZMmtd.mp4 [07:39] You are discussing inappropriately, its annoying and fruitless. a [07:39] [Edit] You are discussing inappropriately, its annoying and fruitless. [07:39] Next time I will hire a Turkish translator. [07:39] [Edit] Next time I will hire a Turkish translator, so you understand me better [08:10] @lungwitz, What are the authority you have? [08:11] None [08:11] It's called Sarcasm [08:12] @lungwitz, [Edit] What are the authority you have in Ubports. [08:15] @lungwitz, [Edit] What are the authority you have in Ubports? [08:17] If you don't have authority don't mess with us okay? [08:18] What's the obsession with authority? [08:50] @omerfaruktemir, And me [08:51] @omerfaruktemir, What ? We want support ubports. [08:55] deleteus was added by: deleteus [08:58]