| lovingdragoness | Hi | 11:31 |
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| lovingdragoness | Are the 18.04 builds stable enough to not crash when using the installer or booting up the installer? >.> | 11:32 |
| gpunk | yes, it works for me just fine | 11:45 |
| catphish | is there any way to test 18.04 server prior to the import freeze? | 12:17 |
| catphish | i see desktop pre images, but i am interested in testing server | 12:17 |
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| donofrio | if anyone knows how to fix these errors I'm all ears - https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2960 | 17:35 |
| albert23 | donofrio: have systemd services started in that container (ps ax)? | 17:54 |
| donofrio | albert23, hu? | 18:01 |
| donofrio | not using docker anything just wsl/lxrunoffline | 18:01 |
| albert23 | donofrio: run the command ps ax in the container, that should show some systemd services | 18:02 |
| donofrio | I'm game lets see.... | 18:02 |
| donofrio | albert23, here is what it returns https://apaste.info/aFc2 | 18:03 |
| albert23 | so no systemd services | 18:05 |
| TJ- | albert23: it's Windows! :) | 18:05 |
| albert23 | I know | 18:05 |
| donofrio | this is what I see https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoL80WYzed14twrwo0Q | 18:05 |
| albert23 | Bit starting a bionic container on debian/sid gives similar fun | 18:06 |
| donofrio | ignore onedrive login jazz | 18:06 |
| albert23 | donofrio: is there anyway in windows to see the container starting, like a normal console? | 18:07 |
| donofrio | no it's not a container its wsl (I mean I can do container things but it's not docker) | 18:07 |
| donofrio | albert23, and others thank you for talking and thinking about this I've not gotten anywhere in four days ;( | 18:08 |
| albert23 | donofrio: it looks like a container just running on a different type of host | 18:09 |
| albert23 | Somehow that conatainer (or however you name it) must be started | 18:09 |
| donofrio | ok I could see that....but I'm limited in what I can see/do outside the wsl | 18:10 |
| donofrio | "c:\tools\lxrunoffline\LxRunOffline.exe list" returns two items bionic and Ubuntu I am trying bionic so I run "c:\tools\lxrunoffline\LxRunOffline.exe run -n bionic" and it retuirned the "donofrio@WSAL0013:~$" prompt | 18:11 |
| albert23 | donofrio: can you pastebin the output of mount? | 18:13 |
| donofrio | sure thing | 18:13 |
| donofrio | https://apaste.info/DDTb | 18:15 |
| albert23 | so no cgroups mounted at all | 18:16 |
| donofrio | fwiw, my 16.04 install returns https://apaste.info/IVqu | 18:17 |
| albert23 | donofrio: I think the missing cgroups are the reason systemd services don't start | 18:18 |
| albert23 | Running bionic on debian sid one missing cgroup was enough to stop systemd | 18:19 |
| albert23 | If you can get the console output, that would probably tell you | 18:19 |
| albert23 | On sid there was a cleer FREEZE message | 18:19 |
| donofrio | I have console output let me check..... | 18:23 |
| donofrio | opps no I dont | 18:23 |
| donofrio | that was all done though powershell/bash | 18:24 |
| donofrio | so my boxes do not have any cgroups (like they might not be implemented in WSL yet?) here is my right desktop w10 1703 w/17.04 disto-upgraded from 16.04 by changed sources (and is my main working terminal till I get left desktop stable and updating again) | 18:25 |
| donofrio | https://apaste.info/r0np | 18:25 |
| albert23 | Well, I cannot be sure you have the same problem as I saw. But systemd services not running is not good. | 18:26 |
| albert23 | And in my case I can also still attach to the container and many things just seem to work | 18:27 |
| donofrio | systemd is running on the right desktop (at least I beleve it is (i started it) | 18:27 |
| donofrio | how to query for health of it? | 18:27 |
| albert23 | Until you need one of those systemd services | 18:27 |
| albert23 | systemctl would tell you | 18:28 |
| donofrio | when I try "systemctl -a" it returns "Failed to list units: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1" | 18:29 |
| donofrio | on right desktop (17.04) | 18:29 |
| lotuspsychje | donofrio: how is this related to 18.04? | 18:30 |
| donofrio | lotuspsychje, on 17.04 it doesn't | 18:30 |
| donofrio | just figured I built them close to the same | 18:30 |
| lotuspsychje | donofrio: 17.04 is end of life also | 18:30 |
| donofrio | only right desktop is a year older install (1703) | 18:30 |
| albert23 | donofrio: and what dows systemctl say on the 18.04 desktop? | 18:32 |
| donofrio | albert23, it returns "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory" | 18:33 |
| albert23 | That's the same I see with 18.04 on sid | 18:34 |
| donofrio | that is a good sign (guessing) | 18:34 |
| donofrio | means wsl is closer to normal linux/sid | 18:34 |
| albert23 | On SID there is a trick to get the cgroups and systemd properly working for the bionic container | 18:34 |
| donofrio | I'm all ears | 18:34 |
| albert23 | But how that works on WSL I have no idea | 18:34 |
| donofrio | shouldn't it just be sudo service systemd start? | 18:38 |
| albert23 | No, on SID you need to create a directory and mount cgroup 2 on it to allow the bionic container to start properly | 18:39 |
| albert23 | So you need to do something on the host, not in the conatiner | 18:39 |
| donofrio | albert23, what does your mount have for your 18.04? | 18:39 |
| donofrio | humm https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2209 | 18:41 |
| albert23 | donofrio: this is how it looks in a bionic container on sid: https://apaste.info/TqFm | 18:44 |
| donofrio | cool, much to learn still about wsl and its offerings and what is missing still..... | 18:46 |
| lotuspsychje | what can we do for you furkan | 19:09 |
| lotuspsychje | FurretUber: | 19:09 |
| lotuspsychje | FurretUber: what bug are you wondering about? | 19:12 |
| FurretUber | Hi, I "updated" from 17.10 to 18.04 by changing the sources.list file. The xfce4 package does not depend from xfce4-volumed, so xfce4-volumed is marked to be autoremoved, but without it the volume keys don't work | 19:12 |
| lotuspsychje | FurretUber: well first of all, we dont reccomend to upgrade yet in this stage | 19:12 |
| lotuspsychje | FurretUber: if you want to help bug out 18.04 plz install the daily image clean | 19:13 |
| lotuspsychje | FurretUber: this way, we can trace if its really a bug instead of a leftover from a previous release | 19:13 |
| FurretUber | This was exactly what I was wondering | 19:14 |
| FurretUber | I will download and test with a clean install | 19:18 |
| marathon | howdy | 19:42 |
| donofrio | albert23, now for crazy question how do I take all my installed package selections and diff them out of the bionic install so I can apt-get the missing ones installed from the steps here https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2618 | 19:48 |
| donofrio | so far its up and running just apt-get installing things like xfce4 and ubuntu-desktop and the like.... | 19:48 |
| donofrio | 1466 packages to go....lol | 19:50 |
| albert23 | donofrio: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | 19:50 |
| donofrio | is "archive.ubuntu.com" a alias for "use lowest ping rate mirror?" | 19:53 |
| donofrio | FurretUber, your going to get sadness oneday (at least I was told that when I dist-upgraded from 16.04 to 17.04 using the sources.list way) | 19:54 |
| donofrio | opps lotus beat me to that.....going back to mute ;) | 19:55 |
| FurretUber | The notebook survived the 17.10 upgrade (it's a Lenovo), so I thought 18.04 would be a cinch | 19:56 |
| donofrio | FurretUber, "time will tell." | 20:01 |
| FurretUber | The bug really biting me started with 17.04: https://i.imgur.com/ad81Dwd.png | 20:04 |
| donofrio | FurretUber, how does it run in VMWare Player? or like me run in WSL :) #duckforcover #lol | 20:09 |
| FurretUber | That virtual machine works perfectly when opening it using QEMU command line and VirtualBox | 20:09 |
| FurretUber | When using virt-manager, it dies when it tries to update the kernel or the package linux-firmware | 20:10 |
| FurretUber | Every Ubuntu's virt-manager virtual machine freezes and stops working when updating the kernel or the linux-firmware package, and the only information I could get from them is that from that screenshot. | 20:13 |
| FurretUber | The host system seems to have no issues (there is no dmesg message or anything), but nothing works in the guest after that | 20:13 |
| donofrio | if the has happened before to you might want to ask #ubuntu this is for 18.04 only...... | 20:14 |
| FurretUber | I already asked there at least three times, but the message was not read/others didn't paid attention to it (I waited 12 hours for answers) | 20:17 |
| donofrio | irc is slow may take days for answers | 20:18 |
| donofrio | FurretUber, did you try Vmware player on host and how did guest do when firmware was applied? | 20:19 |
| FurretUber | I have not tried using vmware player. On the host I have only used QEMU and libvirt | 20:19 |
| FurretUber | Never installed any other program, as VirtualBox | 20:20 |
| donofrio | "it's free" fwiw I had many issues with VB and windows 7 guest all was solved when I used vmware player | 20:20 |
| donofrio | Nice touch, I just noticed this as the updates went by "It is likely that 4.4.0-43-Microsoft belongs to a chroot's host" | 20:33 |
| donofrio | error found | 20:35 |
| donofrio | "Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.36.11-1) ...W: http: aptMethod::Configuration: could not load seccomp policy: Invalid argument" what does that mean? | 20:35 |
| donofrio | cause it stopped the update I ran "apt-get install xfce* hexchat firefox inxi pianobar ubuntu-desktop -y" and I do not believe its finished yet | 20:36 |
| donofrio | well maybe it is done....checkin... | 20:38 |
| donofrio | and xfce4 is up - yah me..... | 20:43 |
| donofrio | how do I get screenfetch's output to maintain formatting in pastebinit? | 20:57 |
| donofrio | awesome behold "OS: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic [Ubuntu on Windows 10]" :) I'm a happy man https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoL84RCA9UQG92YVkPA (skip onedrive login - unneeded) | 21:01 |
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