[00:55] robert_ancell: the new GNOME Software version looks nice. At the bottom of the home page, the More button text looks small for Recommended apps [01:21] jbicha, yeah, not sure if that's what upstream intended or a themeing issues [07:33] good morning desktoppers [07:38] Hello oSoMoN [07:41] good afternoon duflu [09:00] morning [09:01] Morning willcooke [09:01] hey willcooke duflu [09:01] & desktopers [09:01] Hello seb128 [09:01] willcooke, had a good long w.e? [09:01] Morning desktopers [09:01] hey flexiondotorg [09:01] good morning folks [09:01] seb128, lots of decorating. I'm totally knackered now though :) Very stuff and achey [09:02] willcooke, glad to be back at the computer then? ;) [09:02] lut oSoMoN [09:02] salut seb128 [09:02] welcome back willcooke [09:05] willcooke, ah the physical holiday that is computing [09:06] weird, couldn't press enter there [09:06] moin moinington [09:06] Hi flexiondotorg, Laney [09:07] hey Laney [09:07] hey Laney [09:08] hey duflu oSoMoN seb128! [09:09] the people I'd pick first for my curling team [09:09] Laney, you mean sweeping your house? [09:12] we do have mostly wooden floors... [09:14] I have a neato curling robot at home, it works great [09:48] hey desktoppers! [09:49] hey Tim, it has been a while! how are you doing? [09:52] Hey seb, doing good, though destroyed my ankle near the end of winter and has been a long rehab ;( [09:53] urg, how did you do that? [09:53] stupid snow! [09:59] * darkxst still lives in the mountains though! [09:59] anyway starting to work on some of the 3.28 updates [10:00] oh, which ones? [10:00] jbicha seems to have most of that covered :) [10:02] Ive been pushing a few updates to debian, that are in sync [10:04] working on gjs at the moment [10:05] and then will look at the blockers for g-s-d/g-c-c [10:07] *and* just getting my head around, meson, gitlab etc! [10:16] did you see the community hub post from Jeremy about 3.28? [10:17] yes, he sent that to me yesterday [10:19] driving to Melbourne tomorrow, but will add some comments to that by the end of the week [10:21] more generally, jbicha has briefed me on whats ok, whats maybe and whats not in [10:23] good [10:28] jbicha, thanks for reworking that monospace patch. [10:31] hey willcooke [10:31] hey darkxst! It's been a while, how are you? [10:34] willcooke, I am good. finally getting back into things after a long summer of rehabbing ankles [10:34] no only 1 ankle [10:34] ouch [10:35] yeh it was quite bad [10:41] seb128, just to settle your nerves, I won't be uploading anything without the usual discussions, have just been out of the loop the last bit! [10:42] thx :) [10:50] tjaalton, the libglvnd MIR doesn't seem a proper MIR, look at bug #1748905 for an example with the different section ... you should probably do something similar [10:50] bug 1748905 in libdazzle (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libdazzle" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1748905 [10:50] tjaalton, your doesn't include any detail about the availability/security history/rational/maintainance/etc, the MIR team isn't going to like that [11:03] doko, I'm not experienced with symbols files, how do I prevent external symbols (stdlib template instantiations, boost symbols) from leaking into the symbols for libepubgen ? [11:04] I've read that I can mark them optional, but I'd rather not have them in the symbols file in the first place, that would be much more readable and maintainable [11:14] seb128: not really here this week, but fixed it now to get it moving [12:01] oSoMoN: mark them as optional. I would do a build with empty symbols files and then use the kde symbols helpers to generate a first instance of this file [12:03] ok [12:34] seb128: good morning, you want spice-vdagent as an ubuntu-desktop recommends, right? [12:50] tjaalton, thx [12:51] jbicha, hey, it seems the right place for it, wdyt? [12:51] I can't think of anywhere better [12:51] well I mean we could put it in desktop-common… [12:53] I was unsuccessful in getting the Noto color emoji font in desktop-common 😞 [12:56] heh [12:57] jbicha, but yeah, that wfm, we should stack changes to the seed vcs only for now and do an upload a bit later, we are likely to do some other tweaks this week [12:57] like convert some apps to be snaps [13:02] merejbicha, btw did you have the udisks 2.7 merge done? [13:02] ups [13:02] jbicha, btw did you have the udisks 2.7 merge done? [13:02] I think we should upload even if it's blocked on that MIR [13:02] to have it before feature freeze, and it might help to motivate reviewers :) [13:03] (added to desktop-common, hopefully no complaints) [13:04] o/ [13:05] ok, I believe the only udisks diff will be the exfat change [13:06] k, let me upload that later then :) [13:06] unless you wanted to do it? [13:06] hey Nafallo [13:07] seb128: feel free to do udisks again :) [13:07] k [13:09] Trevinho: or anyone: snap apps still duplicate deb apps in the Activities Overview, right? [13:09] jbicha: yeah [13:10] jbicha: it's also probably kind of wanted, as i think both should be visible in a way [13:10] maybe marked better though [13:10] is that fixable for bionic? because that's going to be pretty annoying depending on how upgrades work [13:11] we don't need two indistinguishable gedit's installed just because someone happened to be using a previous Ubuntu release 😞 [13:13] or we could hack ubuntu-release-upgrader to uninstall the specific deb apps? [13:18] Do we have the concept of a global list of aliases? [13:18] specically, tailf got removed at some point in the last couple of years [13:19] and I never remember to tail -f the first time, [13:19] so could I propose tailf = tail -f ? [13:19] jbicha, well, if we don't teach the dist-upgrader nothing is going to install the snaps for you, so yeah we should let it remove the snap as it installs the snaps [13:20] oh ok [13:21] remove the deb* [13:23] willcooke, we have some in .bashrc but that's it afaik [13:25] seb128, any ideas which LP project? [13:25] * willcooke googles [13:25] willcooke, bash [13:34] hello everyone [13:35] I got a question about bug #1100670, from what I see in the ucc source code the theme names available there are hardcoded, was there a reason for not allowing 3rd party themes there? [13:35] bug 1100670 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Cannot use third-party theme packages" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100670 [13:42] xnox: I replied to LP: #1735499 [13:42] Launchpad bug 1735499 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libblockdev" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735499 [13:44] dgadomski: When unity was default it made sense to hardcode themes which were supported by Ubuntu.....but it can be made to work with other themes.....a combobox for icons can also be inserted in the appearance panel.....patches are welcome. [13:45] thanks k_alam, I will look into that [13:46] hey dgadomski [13:46] dgadomski: k_alam honestly, very few themes that aren't Ambiance/Radiance look good in Unity [13:47] dgadomski, GNOME doesn't include any control of themes at all, we added that selector at first to be able to switch between our 2 themes variants, then we whitelisted the GNOME one. It was not intended to be a "pick any theme" by design, there are better tools to do that [13:48] but yeah, not strong reason out of "limit what we recommends to users" [13:48] recommend [13:48] if the new unity team is wanting to lift that limitation it's their choice though [13:50] jbicha: Numix is ok. Also I plan to add the new community theme if it lands on bionic....but it needs unity support though. [13:52] like Seb said, you can do what you like. I'd suggest keeping the whitelist but expanding it for known working themes [13:52] Adwaita looks bad in Unity for instance [13:57] I agree with many themes not looking good, thanks, now I get it [14:09] GunnarHj: ugh, I dislike a large distro patch like the one you suggested for LP: #1734545, you could propose that to GNOME though… [14:09] Launchpad bug 1734545 in gnome-sudoku (Ubuntu) "Translations not updated from upstream" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734545 [14:15] you might be able to talk them into doing a 3.27.91 release if you think that patch would make a difference for that bug [14:15] jbicha, s390x does not have normal disks at all; without packaging that plugin, one cannot partition any disks on s390x at all; thus rendering the whole package mostly useless on s390x and hence nothing will ever use it. [14:16] jbicha, the question is not what mbiel thinks about it; and what he thinks about it for Debian; it matters what we care about for Ubuntu and for Ubuntu on z [14:16] jbicha, do you need me to upload ubuntu delta to enable the plugin? [14:16] xnox: it sounds like you're upset about this issue… [14:17] jbicha, no, i'm just not seeing your logic to it at all. [14:17] xnox: could the Foundations team please take over maintainership of udisks & libblockdev then? ;) [14:18] jbicha, surely not, this came up as part of MIR review. Ubuntu on s390x is a supported architecture, which we support. Why would we disable s390x support, in package, when it does exist upstream. [14:19] well you're not on the MIR team, so it seems a bit much to hijack our package when we've begging y'all for months to take over maintainership of it [14:19] jbicha, MIR team pinged me, asking if said hw support is necessory on s390x, and yeah, it kind of is, given that s390x has no normal hard drives =) [14:19] and how does the s390 plugin actually do any good since there's no UI for it? [14:19] no CLI for it either [14:20] it is chicken and egg; there will never be one, if we don't even bother to ship the library. [14:20] are you intending to use the library in ubiquity/subiquity or something? [14:20] and there will be 3rd party non-package code which will try to use libblockdev, as it does look like a very useful generic library to code against. [14:21] jbicha, me, personally, no. but that's not the point. [14:21] otherwise, this is a really theoretical complaint to have to introduce a permanent diff to Debian that you are not volunteering to maintain… [14:22] jbicha, i'm confused why did you go about asking michael biebl about it. any how come, you did it, in such a manner that it got rejected in debian. [14:22] lol! [14:22] jbicha, what's the trail to "Michael Biebl would rather not build the s390 plugin in Debian"? [14:22] it doesn't sound like you have very good asking skills… [14:22] jbicha, it also makes a lot of sense to enable said plugin in debian too... [14:23] here I'l quote my original asking since you doubt I asked well [14:23] Subject: libblockdev s390 plugin [14:23] "I had an Ubuntu developer request that we enable the s390 plugin in libblockdev [14:23] Does this look ok to you? [14:23] jbicha, was it a BTS bug report? [14:23] https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/libblockdev/commit/5d3a4103 [14:24] no, it was an email because mbiebl wasn't in IRC [14:24] mbiebl is the co-maintainer of libblockdev and spent significant time handling the broken s390 plugin [14:24] it would be rude for me to just not talk to him about making a major change to the package when he's clearly invested in it [14:25] sure, but now i am very confused. [14:25] do you not understand Debian maintainership? /s [14:25] jbicha, so you packaged it anyway in debian, or not? [14:26] give you point me to commits of adding it. [14:26] I commit a patch to git and reverted it so that I could fix other issues when I uploaded without upsetting mbiebl and needing to go through the Debian NEW queue [14:26] and then commented on launchpad but that it's not going to be packaged in debian [14:26] btw, we have a Desktop Team meeting here in 3 minutes so we'll need to wrap up this conversation soon (for now at least) [14:27] but I'm sort of the middle man here, why don't you talk to mbiebl and please try to talk to him more politely than you talked to me here [14:30] meeting time [14:30] * willcooke is unprepared - one sec [14:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 [14:31] Meeting started Tue Feb 20 14:31:29 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: [14:31] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (hols), duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [14:31] o/ [14:31] o/ [14:31] hey [14:31] \o [14:32] o/ [14:32] hi [14:33] o/ [14:33] Let's get started [14:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: andyrock [14:33] hey [14:33] 1 Reviews: [14:33] 1.1 https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/blurring-crash-fix/+merge/337959 [14:33] 1.2 https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/x-sru6/+merge/337956 [14:33] 1.3 https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/track-more-objects/+merge/337402 [14:33] 2 Ubuntu SSO provider for Gnome-online-accounts: [14:33] 2.1 Code refactoring [14:33] 2.2 Added support to refresh account and ensure_credentials [14:33] 2.3 A MR will be proposed upstream in few hours [14:33] 3 Ubiquity: [14:33] 3.1 Online accounts pages completed [14:33] 3.2 Some experiments to check if snapd can be run inside the /target chroot [14:33] 3.3 Proposed a possible solution to the snap team (seeding the credentials) [14:33] 3.4 Introduced a way to let ubiquity (that runs as root) to talk with [14:33] gnome-online-accounts (that runs as user) [14:35] thanks andyrock [14:35] andyrock, I assume thats EOF? [14:35] yep sorry [14:35] :) nw [14:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: dgadomski [14:35] hey [14:35] * verified fixes for bug #1644662 and bug #1748122 [14:35] * looking into bug #1749289 [14:35] * checked bug #1100670, seems to be working as designed [14:35] * back to working on bug #1743422 [14:35] bug 1644662 in gnome-themes-standard (Ubuntu Artful) "Icons missing when appearance setting is "high contrast"" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644662 [14:35] bug 1748122 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu Trusty) "incorrect tools.conf template is shipped with Ubuntu" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1748122 [14:35] bug 1749289 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "Installer stops after pressing Cancel on Select a language screen during OEM install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749289 [14:35] bug 1100670 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Cannot use third-party theme packages" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100670 [14:35] bug 1743422 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher reveal doesn't always work when moving the pointer to the defined hot spot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743422 [14:36] eof [14:36] thanks dgadomski, nice fixes [14:36] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: duflu [14:36] * Gnome Shell performance work (https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs) [14:36] - Multi-monitor frame scheduling: Getting closer to ready-for-review (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/3). [14:36] . Only delayed this week by all of the distractions mentioned below. [14:36] - Clutter master clock smoothness (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/25) [14:36] . Second attempt at a fix, which now seems to perform optimally (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26) [14:36] - Completed a third little performance optimization (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25) [14:36] * Dull colours and heavy banding on screen (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1749420) [14:36] Ubuntu bug 1749420 in linux (Ubuntu) "[regression] Colour banding and artefacts appear system-wide on an Asus Zenbook UX303LA with Intel HD 4400 graphics" [Medium,Confirmed] [14:36] - This started as part of the accelerated video playback testing topic, but has now moved into a kernel bug. [14:36] * GTK animations smoothness fix (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787665) [14:36] Gnome bug 787665 in .General "gdk_frame_clock_get_frame_time is irregular and causing stuttering" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [14:36] - The good news: Fix backported to gtk-3, released upstream and in bionic! (gtk 3.22.28) [14:36] - The bad news: While working on the equivalent fix in mutter/clutter this week, I realised it's possible to do better still. So maybe GTK will be revisited, although the GTK logic and Clutter are quite different so I'm not sure if that will be necessary yet. [14:36] - Cautious news: This was the last remaining line item for "Totem smoothness" till recently, but now I'm not sure. I think totem-on-Xorg might need more fixes. Will need to retest after the Mesa regression fix is released. [14:37] * BlueZ 5.48 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747354) [14:37] Ubuntu bug 1747354 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Update bluez to version 5.48 in bionic" [Wishlist,Fix committed] [14:37] - Reached bionic-proposed this week [14:37] - Got blocked on: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750308 [14:37] Ubuntu bug 1750308 in python-dbusmock (Ubuntu) "FAIL: test_one_adapter (__main__.TestBlueZ5)" [Medium,In progress] [14:37] . Bisected, fixed, awaiting upstream review. [14:37] * Fun with charts: Good news for pulseaudio and bluez this week: [14:37] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive [14:37] * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, mir, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput. [14:37] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: jbicha [14:37] • Lots of GNOME 3.27.90 updates. See https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-3-28-status/4141 for what's not done [14:37] • completed vala 0.40, jsonrpc-glib, libgnome-games-suport, and libgweather transitions [14:37] • gnome-desktop3 transition half done :( [14:37] • Did a gnome-settings-daemon 3.27.91 release for GNOME to make things easier for distros [14:37] • Sponsored Egmont's patch updates for vte and Terminal 3.27 LP: #1744711 Egmont also officially became a vte co-maintainer last week. [14:37] Launchpad bug 1744711 in vte2.91 (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-terminal to 3.28 (vte 0.52)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1744711 [14:38] • Sponsored several GNOME 3.27.90 updates for darkxst to Debian [14:38] • Packaged the new GNOME Usage app [14:38] • GNOME Tweaks has good review numbers from ODRS (the GNOME Software review service used by everyone but Ubuntu) https://fishsoup.net/misc/flatpak-runtime-reports/applications.html [14:38] 🐋 [14:38] thanks jbicha, busy week [14:38] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: jamesh [14:38] xdg-desktop-portal: [14:38] - reviewed and tested Alex's snap support PR: [14:38] https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/155 (mostly good [14:38] except for an error in the local copy of aa_is_enabled) [14:38] - updated xdg-desktop-portal snapd support branch to work as part of [14:38] desktop interface: [14:38] https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/compare/master...jhenstridge:xdg-desktop-portal-support [14:38] -- at present this is without the document portal work, so it might [14:38] make sense to try and get it merged independently. [14:38] themes for snaps: [14:38] - put together a prototype for sharing GTK and icon themes via the [14:38] extended content interface. I've still got a bit to finish off, but I [14:38] can install multiple snaps each containing one or more themes and have [14:38] them all connect to the same plug on an application snap and have the [14:38] data exposed in the layout expected by GTK. I'll be writing this up [14:38] on the snapcraft forum once I've got it tidied up. [14:38] #topic jibel / heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: jibel / heber [14:39] * Continued with upgrade tests and triaging of incoming reports. One major blocker are bug 1749688 and bug 1749199 [14:39] bug 1749688 in xorg-lts-transitional (Ubuntu) "16.04 HWE -> 18.04 = xorg held back (+ partial breakage because of it)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749688 [14:39] * Spent a fair amount of time on debugging failing tests in the lab which started with pre-installed snaps on the image and reported bug 1750403 [14:39] bug 1749199 in upstart (Ubuntu) "purge conf files on removal of upstart (was session fails to start after an upgrade from xenial to bionic)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749199 [14:39] bug 1750403 in casper (Ubuntu) "Live Session - Increased memory usage with preinstalled snap (fails to start with - gnome-session timeout)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750403 [14:39] * Tested latest version of firefox snap [14:39] * Preparation of 16.04.4 due next week (March 1st) [14:39] * MPs for running system tests for gnome-software when a new version is available on proposed: [14:39] - qakit: [14:39] - https://code.launchpad.net/~heber013/qakit/launch-job-package/+merge/337438 [14:39] - ubuntu-system-tests: [14:39] - https://code.launchpad.net/~heber013/ubuntu-system-tests/add-install-package-option/+merge/337886 [14:39] - qa-jenkins-jobs [14:39] - https://code.launchpad.net/~heber013/qa-jenkins-jobs/adding-job-test-proposed-package/+merge/337887 [14:39] * In progress: run current autopilot tests against ubiquity minimal installation branch and fix them if needed. [14:39] * In progress: Add autopilot tests in ubiquity for minimal installation branch. [14:40] .. [14:40] hi, I updated to the latest bionic packages, now it seems settings for my GNOME session are gone, I can't change back the theme to the dark one, and the doc shows even if the plugin is disabled [14:40] ackk, bear with us a few mins please, just in the middle of a meeting [14:40] thanks jibel [14:40] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: kenvandine [14:40] sorry [14:40] yo [14:40] * Built gnome-software classic snap based on core 16, currently in the edge channel. [14:40] * snapcraft-desktop-helpers: worked on symlinking the xdg user-dirs, I think it's working but could use more testing. [14:40] * Filed MIR for xdg-desktop-portal-gtk, LP: #1750069 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/+bug/1750069 [14:40] Ubuntu bug 1750069 in xdg-desktop-portal-gtk (Ubuntu) "[MIR] xdg-desktop-portal-gtk" [Undecided,New] [14:41] EOF [14:41] thanks kenvandine [14:41] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: Laney [14:41] nod [14:41] o Have been getting & ignoring automated mail from IS every few days for several weeks now about various problems with all the cloud instances that I'm supposed to be maintaining. juju being broken, updates needing applying, Landscape problems, ... - took some time to clean everything up there. Lots of the infrastructure nodes had ran out of disk space due to tens of kernels not being autoremoved :-/ [14:41] o Some smaller updates - glib2.0 glib-networking [14:41] o Helped to debug / fix a test regression caused by the new glib2.0 which got merged into Ubuntu, waiting for review upstream now [14:41] o Tried to start some discussions with people: [14:41] ? Debian peeps about making the systemd packaging stuff understand systemd user units [14:41] ? systemd peeps about enhancing timer units to support timezones - Clocks would use this to have sane alarm behaviour [14:41] o Wrote some patches for autopkgtest-{virt,build}-lxd to be less racy with respect to network bringup, some argument about which of the two suggest ways I tried is best to go, so I've left both patches in the hands of upstream [14:41] o snap seeding: [14:41] ? Seb seeded a snap, made sure that it worked. Doesn't on the live session, known problem which is being worked but otherwise seems good [14:41] ? Reviewed a branch from Steve to use a special channel for seeded snaps, which is required as per the "snaps in main" specification [14:41] ? [14:42] thanks Laney [14:42] Laney, new IRC client? [14:42] Not seeing the usual icons but perhaps its me? [14:43] i see ? [14:43] I see question marks [14:43] same here [14:43] same here [14:43] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: oSoMoN [14:43] hey [14:43] • chromium [14:43] ∘ requested camera plug to be auto-connected for the snap (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/auto-connecting-the-camera-interface-for-the-chromium-snap/4014), granted [14:43] ∘ fixed i386 build in HW-accelerated video decoding test PPA (https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/cr-vaapi-test/+packages) [14:43] ∘ removed useless patch (use-clang-versioned.patch) in all bionic branches [14:43] ∘ updated stable to 64.0.3282.167 [14:43] ∘ updated beta to 65.0.3325.73 [14:43] • libreoffice [14:43] ∘ updated apparmor profile fixes for senddoc (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/49614/), merged upstream and backported patch to ubuntu packaging [14:43] ∘ filed bug #1749484, Ken found that the wayland socket is lingering after logging out [14:43] bug 1749484 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] fail to launch after logging in to a wayland session then back into an X11 session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749484 [14:43] ∘ filed a MIR for libepubgen (dependency of libreoffice 6.0), bug #1749920, and addressing doko's requirements (add a symbols file, make the packages multi-arch compliant) [14:43] bug 1749920 in libepubgen (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libepubgen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749920 [14:43] ∘ fixed bug #1748151 [14:44] bug 1748151 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] cannot load hsqldb driver" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1748151 [14:44] ∘ filed and fixed bug #1750111 [14:44] bug 1750111 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] No JRE selected by default" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750111 [14:44] ∘ filed and fixed bug #1750497 [14:44] bug 1750497 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[snap] Could not load the attachment when sending current document by e-mail" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750497 [14:44] ∘ snap for 6.0.1 in candidate channel has been through a number of iterations and has received useful feedback, I'm planning on promoting it to the stable channel later today if no major issue comes up in the meantime [14:44] ∘ filed bug #1750335 and investigating [14:44] bug 1750335 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LO 6.0 autopkgtest failures (uicheck: test_text_direction)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750335 [14:44] ∘ backported the fix for CVE-2018-6871 to trusty and xenial, handed over to security team for publication [14:44] • other [14:44] ∘ filed bug #1749481 (and upstream https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793456) [14:44] Gnome bug 793456 in general "Wrong session marked as selected in session dropdown on login screen" [Normal,New] [14:44] 🐟 [14:44] bug 1749481 in gdm "Wrong session marked as selected in session dropdown on login screen" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749481 [14:44] https://imgur.com/a/BXWBU [14:44] thanks oSoMoN, and thanks for all the links too [14:44] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: seb128 [14:44] • had friday off [14:44] • spent half a day looking to the notify-osd/dconf autopkg issue on armhf without success :/ [14:44] • submitted the ubiquity change to download updates during installation by default [14:44] • trello board reviews/updates [14:44] • packaged bolt (the system service for thunderbolt 3 devices), waiting for NEW review [14:44] • looked a bit at the things blocked in proposed and the gnome-desktop transition [14:45] • usual rounds of discussions, meeting, bugs triaging [14:45] [14:45] thanks seb128 [14:45] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: tkamppeter [14:45] - ippsample: Packaged and uploaded it. It is waiting in NEW now. [14:45] - cups-filters: Investigateduser bug report discovering that printer does not complete IPP capabilites list when querying media-col-database (full list of all valid paper size/type/borderless combinations). Probably we need to add fallback here. [14:45] - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring Sahil Arora. Rithvik Patibandla from GSoC 2017 wants to participate 2018 again, this time either with IPP scanning or secure IPP-over-USB connection. SANE developer Olaf Meeuwissen is willing to help on mentoring IPP Scanning. [14:45] - Bugs. [14:45] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: Trevinho [14:46] ouch [14:46] · SRU verifications and some errors triaging [14:46] · Fixed a long-time crash in unity and a new one [14:46] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/blurring-crash-fix [14:46] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/track-more-objects [14:46] · Prepared bionic and SRU branches [14:46] · Spent some hours trying to understand the unity FTTB in bionic, [14:46] it's due to a crash in tests, spent some time in debugging [14:46] · Fingerprint tests [14:46] · Search provider for nautilus [14:47] ··· [14:47] thanks Trevinho [14:47] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: robert_ancell [14:47] - Update GNOME Software in Bionic to 3.27 with category support - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.27.90-1ubuntu1 [14:47] - GNOME Software Xenial SRU (rejected on upload, needs artful SRUs to complete). [14:47] - Attended GNOME Software stakeholders meeting. [14:47] - Released simple-scan 3.27.91 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/simple-scan/3.27.91-0ubuntu1 [14:47] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-20 | Current topic: AOB [14:47] Thanks for including lots of links all, that will make newsletter writing a lot quicker [14:47] Did we need to continue the discussion about 3.28 this week? [14:47] (doh, forgot that part ;) [14:48] anything to discuss from https://community.ubuntu.com/t/gnome-3-28-status/4141 ? [14:48] *all except seb128 [14:48] :p [14:48] thanks jbicha for that post, useful and well detailled [14:48] it doesn't seem like we have anything that needs decision at this point? [14:48] For that unity FTBFS I would need some help I think... See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglvnd/+bug/1749957/comments/6 [14:48] Ubuntu bug 1749957 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity FTBFS in Bionic" [High,Confirmed] [14:48] we just need to clear off what is started and maybe we have something to discuss next week [14:48] maybe think about LP: #1750174 ? [14:48] Launchpad bug 1750174 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Update gnome-control-center to 3.27.90" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750174 [14:49] I already got mad enough to track it down to the lowest levels, but I didn't recompile mesa (yet?). [14:49] Trevinho, hum [14:49] does anyone feels like helping Trevinho there? [14:50] Trevinho, I think duflu might be a good person to help you having a look, I'm going to drop him an email if that works for you [14:50] It should be something at driver level [14:50] tjaalton would be the right person [14:50] but he's off this week [14:50] yeah, ok.. let's see [14:50] there's not much rush [14:50] that's in the way for the gnome-desktop transition :/ [14:50] but still... [14:50] well, except ^ [14:51]