[05:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:00] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:06] <oerlaptop> hi lordievader :-)
[07:06] <oerlaptop> early bird :-P
[07:08] <lordievader> Hey oerlaptop
[07:09] <lordievader> Early to work, early to go back home 😉
[07:09] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:09] <oerlaptop> good, waiting for a repairman, and how do you do?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader & oerlaptop
[07:12] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[07:12] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> great here tnx and you?
[07:12] <lordievader> oerlaptop: Doing good here :)
[07:12] <lordievader> oerlaptop: What kind of repairman?
[07:12] <oerlaptop> ha, our roomsoesjes-man
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:12] <lordievader> XD
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> oerlaptop: artful been tested well?
[07:14] <oerlaptop> this lap is working great, for an ancient vista machine
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> what ssd brand oerlaptop
[07:15] <EriC^^> morning guys
[07:15] <oerlaptop> adata, 60 gb
[07:15] <oerlaptop> hi di hi EriC^^
[07:15] <EriC^^> moin oerlaptop , how dae got tae?
[07:16] <oerlaptop> i wonder who is more happy, me or him finding out it will be of good use
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[07:16] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> oerlaptop: its a workover for a friend?
[07:16] <oerlaptop> jups, used in an office
[07:16] <oerlaptop> now they al have win10
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:30] <ducasse> good morning, all
[07:35] <oerlaptop> hi ducasse
[07:37] <ducasse> morning, oerlaptop
[07:37] <ducasse> still happy with the new laptop?
[07:46] <oerlaptop> sure, stood up early for it
[07:46] <oerlaptop> but battery is not charging at all :-(
[07:47] <ducasse> are you buying a new one?
[07:54] <oerlaptop> Yes, as it is not that expensive, it would be wise
[07:54] <oerlaptop> 30 euro, i was thinking 60 euro+
[08:11] <lordievader> That is quite cheap. Official one or an unknown brand?
[08:11] <ducasse> that's actually pretty cheap, yes
[08:14] <oerlaptop> not from acer..
[08:15] <oerlaptop> https://www.replacedirect.nl/category/119311-101031/acer-aspire-5738g-laptop-accus.html#product
[08:16] <oerlaptop> or an original 4400ah or double, but might have a bulb that sticks out
[08:17] <oerlaptop> free shipping too
[08:18] <ducasse> my new cable modem is expected today, will give me an extra 100mbps
[08:19] <ducasse> built-in wifi router, hope i can just bridge it and use it as just a modem
[08:24] <oerlaptop> grrrrrrrr coupon 5 euro ... order €30 or more... 5 cents
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> oerlaptop: i also order spare parts on that site
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> very nice service
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:36] <pauljw> morning BluesKaj
[12:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:45] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj, pauljw - how are you guys today?
[12:46] <pauljw> hi ducasse, good here, you?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> hi ducasse, doing ok here, hanging in as the saying goes, how about you?
[12:47] <ducasse> i'm fine, thanks - soon heading down to the city for a bit
[12:49] <BluesKaj> was going to pick my son up at the airport, but the hwys are covered ice from freezing rain...dunno if his filght will be on time anyway
[12:50] <TJ-> BluesKaj: tell him to hire a parachute and a helicopter :D
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ice covered rather
[12:51] <BluesKaj> uhhm, helis don't fly in this ewather TJ- ;-)
[12:51] <ducasse> snowing here, but not heavily - yet. forecast says it's coming, though.
[12:51] <BluesKaj> weather even
[12:54] <JimBunbtu> Thanks to the local rain, I'm looking out my window at almost no snow. Blessed be the rains that melt the snow.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> i prefer snow ...rain is useless in winter
[12:58] <BluesKaj> but i gew up i with real winters so we took advantage of the the fun one could have doing winter sports and activities
[13:02] <JimBunbtu> BluesKaj, I grew up with what I consider to be real winters as well... sub 40 latitude. While I do enjoy the occasional activity in the snow, I prefer not having to deal with it... all that to say I don't get my way very often and we have more snow-time than no-snow-time
[13:04] <BluesKaj> JimBunbtu, right I live in Northern Ontario Canada 46' N  so we have long winters or at least we did until 10yrs ago or so
[13:05] <JimBunbtu> BluesKaj, weather has been odd for the last 10 or so years, hopefully it's simply part of the long cycle.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yup, hopefully it's the 1000 yr warming cycle that had a climate in which wild grapes could grow in places like Newfoundland
[13:09] <BluesKaj> and not the global warming that climatotlogists are yelling about
[13:09] <JimBunbtu> yummy yummy wild grapes. Stay away from the moonseed though!
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yeah, the Vikings were surprised  when they discovererd them growing in Nfld
[13:17] <JimBunbtu> "Vinland"
[13:25] <JimBunbtu> BluesKaj, I'm just a wee south of you now, winters are surely stronger and longer.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> JimBunbtu, where is that?
[13:29] <JimBunbtu> around 43 lat
[14:16] <JimBunbtu> It's raining and I absolutely love it. Perhaps today I will muster up the will to check out that Unity update.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma user here, never understood unity's appeal :-)
[14:18] <BluesKaj> or gnome
[14:33] <jink> bash.
[14:35] <JimBunbtu> I spend most of my time in Bash shells. I don't really have a draw to KDE/Gnome or any other and mainly go with default for the distro. I haven't found any sufficiently bad enough to make me yak yet.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> I'm an old windows guy and I'm used to gui, but since discovering linux I've migrated to the terminal for a lot of uses
[15:27] <ducasse> i live in terminals and use terminal-based alternatives for a lot of applications
[15:32] <BluesKaj> i3 ?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> i3 wm rather
[15:54] <ducasse> i3, yes. i've been playing with sway on wayland, but wayland just isn't ready yet.
[15:55] <ducasse> i3 is excellent for managing lots of terminals. i also use tmux inside them, though.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> right
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yakuake is about as adventurous as I get in the cli realm
[16:03] <JimBuntu> +1 for tmux
[16:11] <ducasse> i also played with terminator, but handling window splitting etc in tmux is just nicer
[16:13] <BluesKaj> for gui, i use a combo of activities and VDs for different fav apps
[16:14] <BluesKaj> and an actitvty pager in the panel
[16:15] <ducasse> i have a lot of desktops split across 3 screens, not familiar with 'activities'
[16:19] <JimBuntu> ducasse, Are they different computers? If so, have you checked out Synergy for a single KB/Mouse to control everything?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> activities is a kde/plasma thing, but I use a single screen monitor which is my Panasonic 43" plasma TV
[16:24] <ducasse> JimBuntu: no, same box. there's only one computer on that desk. i know synergy, might use it if i decide to set up my mac mini again.
[16:25] <JimBuntu> ducasse, I absolutely love Synergy. I'm using 5 machines spread across 9 monitors, it really saves me from headaches.
[16:30] <ducasse> i can imagine that, thankfully i don't need to spread my focus across 9 screens :)
[16:44] <BluesKaj> no need for multiple screens being a home user
[16:45]  * TJ- whistles innocently
[16:45]  * nicomachus searches his history for TJ-'s battlestation pics
[16:46] <nicomachus> with all... was it 6?... monitors
[16:47] <TJ-> Aye :) plus another 4 laptops within reach
[16:47] <TJ-> Place is one heck of a mess right now, not even room for my mug on the worktop :)
[16:50] <JimBuntu> This was already a 2-computer desk by design... I figured why not take it up a notch and make shelves for more monitors and simply use the desktop space for laptops ;-D
[16:52] <TJ-> Yeah, I've 5 wall-mounted monitors around the corner plus the laptop driving them, then the rest around the sides on the worktop
[16:56] <JimBuntu> I don't think I could reasonably justify any more over here. Even with them angled in at me, I still have to move my head a bit depending on which one I need to look at.
[16:57] <TJ-> JimBuntu: I sit in the corner where the 2 walls meet, so all I do is swivel the chair slightly
[16:57] <JimBuntu> TJ-, lucky you with your "corner office" lol.
[16:57] <TJ-> I use a BT keyboard and mouse, and they are on a lap-stand across my legs so it makes things comfortable
[16:58]  * BluesKaj sits in an easy chair with wireless KB and mouse about 3M away from the screen...pc is the floor below the table theat holds all my components and TV
[16:58] <TJ-> BluesKaj: how larger physically is the screen, at 3m away?
[16:59] <TJ-> I'm about 75cm from my monitors - they're 24" 1920x1200, with the laptop being 15" 1920x1200
[16:59] <BluesKaj> it's a media center sort of ...TV is 43" screen TJ-
[16:59] <JimBuntu> I can swivel 90 to the right... if I need to get up... if I swivel another 90 degrees to the right then I am facing a workbench with other gear on it. I call it "cozy", many would probably call it cramped.
[17:00] <TJ-> BluesKaj: wow, so you can still see the pixels then! I did consider larger screens but it'd mean sitting further away
[17:01] <BluesKaj> yeah I use a 18 sized font for these old eyes, with regular 1920x1080 res
[17:01] <TJ-> JimBuntu: I've got a mini datacenter to my left, and electronics workbench to the right http://iam.tj/photos/Study-workstation.jpg (in that picture the electronics stuff was right next to me but now it's other end of the right-side bench about 3 meters away)
[17:03] <TJ-> BluesKaj: yes, I've considered that - In the new place I'm planning on a couple of 4K 42"+ wall-mounted screens and be able to sit well back from them, as an alternative to smaller screens when I want to rest my eyes
[17:03] <JimBuntu> TJ-, lol, we have similar gear... although I don't see a streo-macroscope in the pic, I do see an arm for what I suspect is a lamped magnifying glass. I really need to clean up around here so I can take some pics
[17:03] <TJ-> JimBuntu: angle-poise magnify/lamp yes, and there's another arm with a camera on
[17:04] <JimBuntu> It's hard to beat a magnified video feed when you want to complain to a fabricator about their shoddy work!
[17:05] <TJ-> I've got a Raspi with a screen and a BitScope attached too
[17:05] <nicomachus> Looks like Bodhi Linux didn't fix the 17.10 lenovo bug: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/7yq9r4/help_ive_bricked_3_motherboards_trying_to_install/
[17:06] <JimBuntu> TJ, your KB looks like it's from the future. Is it blank or is that the lighting?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> this is basically a media center with pc integration with audio spdif out to a an audio receiver and hdmi to the tv
[17:08] <JimBuntu> BluesKaj, I bet it's nice to sit in the living room using that big screen.
[17:08] <TJ-> JimBuntu: KB? keyboard?
[17:09] <nicomachus> TJ-: so much WHITE
[17:09] <nicomachus> makes my eyes hurt
[17:09] <TJ-> BluesKaj: I find I cannot focus on programming/hacking sat on a comfy chair, I need to be in an operator/desk chair
[17:09] <JimBuntu> TJ, I think it's your keyboard... between the chair and the laptop, left of the mouse.
[17:10] <TJ-> nicomachus: that was the camera over-exposing; Generally the screens are mostly black / dark themed
[17:10] <nicomachus> I would hope. ouch.
[17:10] <TJ-> JimBuntu: It's an old Apple BT wireless keyboard A1016... beautiful smooth action
[17:11] <JimBuntu> interesting TJ. I like the way it looks in the pic, basically without any symbols on it.
[17:11] <TJ-> nicomachus: yes, it's those Samsung LCDs with very powerful backligts... the portrait to the right is a Dell U2412 EPS which is much better, and much cooler!
[17:12] <TJ-> JimBuntu: I have 2 of them; the other is German layout, and I get /so/ lost on that since Y Z etc are swapped around!
[17:12] <TJ-> Plus I find Debian/Ubuntu keyboard layouts don't exactly match them
[17:38] <ducasse> i got a das keyboard pro 4 with cherry blue switches a while back, been *so* happy with it. just can't consider going back to anything but a proper mechanical keyboard now.
[17:38] <nacc> ducasse: funnily enough, i also just got the same keyboard
[17:38] <nacc> ducasse: i had tried a matias quite pro and had to return two of them
[17:38] <nacc> for dying on me
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:43] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[17:43] <ducasse> nacc: you happy with yours? what switches did you get?
[17:45] <nacc> ducasse: first full day using it for me, but so far so good!
[17:45] <nacc> ducasse: i got the brown switches
[17:47] <ducasse> so, a bit quieter than mine. i've got nobody else around me to complain about the clicking :)
[17:48] <nacc> ducasse: yeah, i'm on a lot of calls
[17:52] <OerHeks> please stop clicking guys
[17:52] <OerHeks> :-D
[17:53] <BluesKaj> TJ-, I can tell you one gets used to a comfortable chair very quickly. I also used a desk and swivel chair for a while in my den, but felt isolated there so i moved the pc into the living room and i haven't looked back. I'm retired from work and the desk/chair relationship :-)
[17:55] <TJ-> BluesKaj: my problem is I'd have dogs trying to curl up on me, and I'd lean back and nod off :D
[17:56] <BluesKaj> nothing wrong with nodding off ...I do it all the time, but I'm old :-)
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> 1613 users in main
[18:13] <TJ-> or just lots of bots logging the channel!
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: in april its gonna overload again :p
[18:17]  * TJ- books a 3 month vacation ... for April!
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[18:19] <OerHeks> without bouncers, 300 ?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> humans or robots, all help fill the room :p