[05:43] good morning to all [07:00] Good morning [07:06] hi lordievader :-) [07:06] early bird :-P [07:08] Hey oerlaptop [07:09] Early to work, early to go back home 😉 [07:09] How are you doing? [07:09] good, waiting for a repairman, and how do you do? [07:12] hey lordievader & oerlaptop [07:12] Hey lotuspsychje [07:12] How are you doing? [07:12] great here tnx and you? [07:12] oerlaptop: Doing good here :) [07:12] oerlaptop: What kind of repairman? [07:12] ha, our roomsoesjes-man [07:12] lol [07:12] XD [07:13] oerlaptop: artful been tested well? [07:14] this lap is working great, for an ancient vista machine [07:15] cool [07:15] what ssd brand oerlaptop [07:15] morning guys [07:15] adata, 60 gb [07:15] hi di hi EriC^^ [07:15] moin oerlaptop , how dae got tae? [07:16] i wonder who is more happy, me or him finding out it will be of good use [07:16] hey EriC^^ [07:16] hey lotuspsychje [07:16] oerlaptop: its a workover for a friend? [07:16] jups, used in an office [07:16] now they al have win10 [07:17] cool [07:30] good morning, all [07:35] hi ducasse [07:37] morning, oerlaptop [07:37] still happy with the new laptop? [07:46] sure, stood up early for it [07:46] but battery is not charging at all :-( [07:47] are you buying a new one? [07:54] Yes, as it is not that expensive, it would be wise [07:54] 30 euro, i was thinking 60 euro+ [08:11] That is quite cheap. Official one or an unknown brand? [08:11] that's actually pretty cheap, yes [08:14] not from acer.. [08:15] https://www.replacedirect.nl/category/119311-101031/acer-aspire-5738g-laptop-accus.html#product [08:16] or an original 4400ah or double, but might have a bulb that sticks out [08:17] free shipping too [08:18] my new cable modem is expected today, will give me an extra 100mbps [08:19] built-in wifi router, hope i can just bridge it and use it as just a modem [08:24] grrrrrrrr coupon 5 euro ... order €30 or more... 5 cents [08:33] oerlaptop: i also order spare parts on that site [08:33] very nice service [12:35] Hi folks [12:36] morning BluesKaj [12:36] 'Morning pauljw [12:45] hi BluesKaj, pauljw - how are you guys today? [12:46] hi ducasse, good here, you? [12:47] hi ducasse, doing ok here, hanging in as the saying goes, how about you? [12:47] i'm fine, thanks - soon heading down to the city for a bit [12:49] was going to pick my son up at the airport, but the hwys are covered ice from freezing rain...dunno if his filght will be on time anyway [12:50] BluesKaj: tell him to hire a parachute and a helicopter :D [12:50] ice covered rather [12:51] uhhm, helis don't fly in this ewather TJ- ;-) [12:51] snowing here, but not heavily - yet. forecast says it's coming, though. [12:51] weather even [12:54] Thanks to the local rain, I'm looking out my window at almost no snow. Blessed be the rains that melt the snow. [12:57] i prefer snow ...rain is useless in winter [12:58] but i gew up i with real winters so we took advantage of the the fun one could have doing winter sports and activities [13:02] BluesKaj, I grew up with what I consider to be real winters as well... sub 40 latitude. While I do enjoy the occasional activity in the snow, I prefer not having to deal with it... all that to say I don't get my way very often and we have more snow-time than no-snow-time [13:04] JimBunbtu, right I live in Northern Ontario Canada 46' N so we have long winters or at least we did until 10yrs ago or so [13:05] BluesKaj, weather has been odd for the last 10 or so years, hopefully it's simply part of the long cycle. [13:07] yup, hopefully it's the 1000 yr warming cycle that had a climate in which wild grapes could grow in places like Newfoundland [13:09] and not the global warming that climatotlogists are yelling about [13:09] yummy yummy wild grapes. Stay away from the moonseed though! [13:15] yeah, the Vikings were surprised when they discovererd them growing in Nfld [13:17] "Vinland" [13:25] BluesKaj, I'm just a wee south of you now, winters are surely stronger and longer. [13:28] JimBunbtu, where is that? [13:29] around 43 lat [14:16] It's raining and I absolutely love it. Perhaps today I will muster up the will to check out that Unity update. [14:18] kde/plasma user here, never understood unity's appeal :-) [14:18] or gnome [14:33] bash. [14:35] I spend most of my time in Bash shells. I don't really have a draw to KDE/Gnome or any other and mainly go with default for the distro. I haven't found any sufficiently bad enough to make me yak yet. [14:43] I'm an old windows guy and I'm used to gui, but since discovering linux I've migrated to the terminal for a lot of uses === JimBunbtu is now known as JimBuntu [15:27] i live in terminals and use terminal-based alternatives for a lot of applications [15:32] i3 ? [15:35] i3 wm rather [15:54] i3, yes. i've been playing with sway on wayland, but wayland just isn't ready yet. [15:55] i3 is excellent for managing lots of terminals. i also use tmux inside them, though. [15:57] right [15:59] yakuake is about as adventurous as I get in the cli realm [16:03] +1 for tmux [16:11] i also played with terminator, but handling window splitting etc in tmux is just nicer [16:13] for gui, i use a combo of activities and VDs for different fav apps [16:14] and an actitvty pager in the panel [16:15] i have a lot of desktops split across 3 screens, not familiar with 'activities' [16:19] ducasse, Are they different computers? If so, have you checked out Synergy for a single KB/Mouse to control everything? [16:20] activities is a kde/plasma thing, but I use a single screen monitor which is my Panasonic 43" plasma TV [16:24] JimBuntu: no, same box. there's only one computer on that desk. i know synergy, might use it if i decide to set up my mac mini again. [16:25] ducasse, I absolutely love Synergy. I'm using 5 machines spread across 9 monitors, it really saves me from headaches. [16:30] i can imagine that, thankfully i don't need to spread my focus across 9 screens :) [16:44] no need for multiple screens being a home user === nicomach1s is now known as nicomachus [16:45] * TJ- whistles innocently [16:45] * nicomachus searches his history for TJ-'s battlestation pics [16:46] with all... was it 6?... monitors [16:47] Aye :) plus another 4 laptops within reach [16:47] Place is one heck of a mess right now, not even room for my mug on the worktop :) [16:50] This was already a 2-computer desk by design... I figured why not take it up a notch and make shelves for more monitors and simply use the desktop space for laptops ;-D [16:52] Yeah, I've 5 wall-mounted monitors around the corner plus the laptop driving them, then the rest around the sides on the worktop [16:56] I don't think I could reasonably justify any more over here. Even with them angled in at me, I still have to move my head a bit depending on which one I need to look at. [16:57] JimBuntu: I sit in the corner where the 2 walls meet, so all I do is swivel the chair slightly [16:57] TJ-, lucky you with your "corner office" lol. [16:57] I use a BT keyboard and mouse, and they are on a lap-stand across my legs so it makes things comfortable [16:58] * BluesKaj sits in an easy chair with wireless KB and mouse about 3M away from the screen...pc is the floor below the table theat holds all my components and TV [16:58] BluesKaj: how larger physically is the screen, at 3m away? [16:59] I'm about 75cm from my monitors - they're 24" 1920x1200, with the laptop being 15" 1920x1200 [16:59] it's a media center sort of ...TV is 43" screen TJ- [16:59] I can swivel 90 to the right... if I need to get up... if I swivel another 90 degrees to the right then I am facing a workbench with other gear on it. I call it "cozy", many would probably call it cramped. [17:00] BluesKaj: wow, so you can still see the pixels then! I did consider larger screens but it'd mean sitting further away [17:01] yeah I use a 18 sized font for these old eyes, with regular 1920x1080 res [17:01] JimBuntu: I've got a mini datacenter to my left, and electronics workbench to the right http://iam.tj/photos/Study-workstation.jpg (in that picture the electronics stuff was right next to me but now it's other end of the right-side bench about 3 meters away) [17:03] BluesKaj: yes, I've considered that - In the new place I'm planning on a couple of 4K 42"+ wall-mounted screens and be able to sit well back from them, as an alternative to smaller screens when I want to rest my eyes [17:03] TJ-, lol, we have similar gear... although I don't see a streo-macroscope in the pic, I do see an arm for what I suspect is a lamped magnifying glass. I really need to clean up around here so I can take some pics [17:03] JimBuntu: angle-poise magnify/lamp yes, and there's another arm with a camera on [17:04] It's hard to beat a magnified video feed when you want to complain to a fabricator about their shoddy work! [17:05] I've got a Raspi with a screen and a BitScope attached too [17:05] Looks like Bodhi Linux didn't fix the 17.10 lenovo bug: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/7yq9r4/help_ive_bricked_3_motherboards_trying_to_install/ [17:06] TJ, your KB looks like it's from the future. Is it blank or is that the lighting? [17:06] this is basically a media center with pc integration with audio spdif out to a an audio receiver and hdmi to the tv [17:08] BluesKaj, I bet it's nice to sit in the living room using that big screen. [17:08] JimBuntu: KB? keyboard? [17:09] TJ-: so much WHITE [17:09] makes my eyes hurt [17:09] BluesKaj: I find I cannot focus on programming/hacking sat on a comfy chair, I need to be in an operator/desk chair [17:09] TJ, I think it's your keyboard... between the chair and the laptop, left of the mouse. [17:10] nicomachus: that was the camera over-exposing; Generally the screens are mostly black / dark themed [17:10] I would hope. ouch. [17:10] JimBuntu: It's an old Apple BT wireless keyboard A1016... beautiful smooth action [17:11] interesting TJ. I like the way it looks in the pic, basically without any symbols on it. [17:11] nicomachus: yes, it's those Samsung LCDs with very powerful backligts... the portrait to the right is a Dell U2412 EPS which is much better, and much cooler! [17:12] JimBuntu: I have 2 of them; the other is German layout, and I get /so/ lost on that since Y Z etc are swapped around! [17:12] Plus I find Debian/Ubuntu keyboard layouts don't exactly match them [17:38] i got a das keyboard pro 4 with cherry blue switches a while back, been *so* happy with it. just can't consider going back to anything but a proper mechanical keyboard now. [17:38] ducasse: funnily enough, i also just got the same keyboard [17:38] ducasse: i had tried a matias quite pro and had to return two of them [17:38] for dying on me [17:40] good evening to all [17:43] hi lotuspsychje [17:43] hey ducasse [17:43] nacc: you happy with yours? what switches did you get? [17:45] ducasse: first full day using it for me, but so far so good! [17:45] ducasse: i got the brown switches [17:47] so, a bit quieter than mine. i've got nobody else around me to complain about the clicking :) [17:48] ducasse: yeah, i'm on a lot of calls [17:52] please stop clicking guys [17:52] :-D [17:53] TJ-, I can tell you one gets used to a comfortable chair very quickly. I also used a desk and swivel chair for a while in my den, but felt isolated there so i moved the pc into the living room and i haven't looked back. I'm retired from work and the desk/chair relationship :-) [17:55] BluesKaj: my problem is I'd have dogs trying to curl up on me, and I'd lean back and nod off :D [17:56] nothing wrong with nodding off ...I do it all the time, but I'm old :-) [18:07] 1613 users in main [18:13] or just lots of bots logging the channel! [18:14] TJ-: in april its gonna overload again :p [18:17] * TJ- books a 3 month vacation ... for April! [18:17] hehe [18:19] without bouncers, 300 ? [18:20] humans or robots, all help fill the room :p