[00:12] <Unit193> ochosi: OK, I thought an xfconf channel would be cool.  I can test a patch to see if it seems long enough though, if that'd help.  And I keep not mentioning because there's no need, I abhor gtk-swtches, the new one has them.  I think most everything else was either addressed in the icon theme or xfpm itself, I at least remember checking some upower info for it.
[05:49] <ochosi> Unit193: i could make a greybird variant for you where switches look like checkboxes
[05:50] <Unit193> Wow, thanks for the offer!  But alas, I use (a patched) Numix.  But as I said, it's not a "regression" per se.  Though I'd not want to sync the current version in Experimental, would want the new release.
[05:51] <ochosi> i guess i could patch a patched nunix too ;)
[05:51] <Unit193> :o
[05:51] <ochosi> just so that i dont pester you both about it, would you take care of xfpm1.6 or shall i poke sean?
[05:52] <Unit193> I'd likely take longer than him, I'd want it in Debian. :P
[05:52] <Unit193> I could likely do it anyway though.
[05:53] <ochosi> having it in debian is not a mistakrle
[05:53] <ochosi> as long as we get if before FF ;)
[05:54] <Unit193> I'll see if it's time for unstable rather than experimental.
[05:57] <Unit193> ochosi: Anything else dev-wise to note?  Or that I should note?
[06:05] <ochosi> yeah, there is an a11y feature i would like to include in xfce4-settings
[06:06] <ochosi> "find my cursor"
[06:06] <ochosi> the code already exists and the author agreed to let us include it
[06:06] <Unit193> Wait, didn't windows XP or something have this feature?
[06:07] <Unit193> Hold a button and it had a closing ring on it?
[06:07] <ochosi> i'd probavly do it synchronously upstream (if bluesabre agrees) with a patch release and then we could sync that
[06:07] <ochosi> yup, exactly that
[06:07] <ochosi> comes in handy in todays multi-monitor world
[06:08] <ochosi> and finally maybe another clipman release with a search function
[06:08] <ochosi> if i get to it
[06:08] <ochosi> the parole patches i would postpone until after FF
[06:08] <Unit193> Yeah sounds nice.
[06:10] <ochosi> thats the rough plan
[06:10] <ochosi> if no dramatic bugs come up
[06:10] <Unit193> So the problem with me doing stuff in Debian is that pkg-xfce has to migrate to Git from Svn, which is "fun"
[06:11] <ochosi> there are some scripts and helpers for that though
[06:11] <ochosi> i do that at $dayjob.from time to time
[06:12] <ochosi> or: whats the fun part?
[06:15] <Unit193> Basically just doing it.
[06:15] <ochosi> in any case, maybe bluesabre can take cafe of xfpm
[06:15] <Unit193> I've done a few, but none for pkg-xfce yet.
[06:35] <Unit193> ochosi: spelling-error-in-binary usr/bin/xfce4-power-manager excuting executing
[06:35] <Unit193> appstream-metadata-in-legacy-location usr/share/appdata/xfce4-power-manager.appdata.xml   too if you feel like it, but personally I don't care in the slightest. :)
[06:39] <ochosi> sounds like something i should fix tonight
[06:39] <ochosi> we have a lot of appstream work to do...
[06:40] <Unit193> There's an appstream checker somewhere hosted.
[06:41] <ochosi> yeah, i know
[06:41] <ochosi> but appstream is also "fun" ;)
[10:16] <bluesabre> Unit193: is there anything else that needs to be taken care of there? I can help with patches so we can get 1.6.2 out and work with Corsac on getting it to salsa
[10:17] <Unit193> bluesabre: Looks like a simple version bump, built it and didn't see anything pressing.
[10:17] <bluesabre> cool
[10:20] <Unit193> Dunno why you're asking me though. :D
[10:20] <Unit193> So far I have it built, but just sitting in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/bionic/ :3
[10:45] <bluesabre> Unit193: since I knew you'd built it and looked at lintian :)
[10:46] <Unit193> Only other upstream ones: binary-file-built-without-LFS-support, binary-without-manpage, desktop-entry-lacks-keywords-entry
[19:40] <knome> ochosi, since we carry that script to convert svg to png in the artwork package, maybe we could look at doing that for the wallpapers at some point as well?
[19:41] <ochosi> we could, but then the recolor feature of xfdesktop would break, no?
[19:41] <knome> hmm?
[19:48] <ochosi> hm, i don't remember anymore if we did that or not (ship a wallpaper with partly transparent background and set a background color in xfdesktop)
[19:49] <knome> we didn't
[19:49] <ochosi> and i thought svg was an advantage there for some reason..
[19:49] <knome> and png supports alpha anyway...
[19:49] <knome> nah
[19:49] <knome> we already ship png
[19:49] <ochosi> ok, in that case there is no reason not to convert svg to png
[19:49] <ochosi> with the script i mean
[19:49] <knome> the thing is we could then put the svg's on the package
[19:49] <knome> and convert to png
[19:49] <ochosi> yeah, it's very simple, it's in debian/rules
[19:49] <ochosi> if you wanna take a look
[19:50] <knome> yeah, but probably for 18.10
[19:50] <ochosi> i'll keep hogging that find-cursor topic meanwhile
[19:50] <knome> i'm optimizing our wallpaper png's
[19:50] <ochosi> still hope i can get that into 18.04
[19:50] <knome> either we didn't do this before or software has gotten better
[19:50] <knome> i get 20-30% decrease in size for most
[19:51] <knome> also, do we want to drop some older relases with this LTS?
[19:51] <knome> maybe drop everything pre-16.04?
[19:52] <ochosi> yeah, why not
[19:52] <ochosi> we could also push them to a legacy or nostalgia package
[19:52] <knome> looks like we did a similar thing before
[19:52] <ochosi> but i'm not sure it's worth the effort
[19:52] <knome> sure we can
[19:52]  * knome shrugs
[19:52] <ochosi> could also put it on the website
[19:52] <knome> ask the packagers
[19:52] <knome> we already have it in launchpad
[19:52] <ochosi> just to keep it "available" somewhere
[19:52] <knome> iirc..
[19:52] <ochosi> right, but LP is not very discoverable
[19:53] <knome> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/xubuntu-marketing/current/files/head:/wallpapers/2560x1600/
[19:53] <knome> and the sources https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/xubuntu-marketing/current/files/head:/wallpapers/sources/
[19:53] <knome> i know but link to them
[19:53] <knome> why duplicate the effort
[19:53] <knome> :P
[19:54] <knome> also should optimize the png's on that branch
[19:55] <ochosi> yeah, sure, linking to LP should be fine
[19:55] <ochosi> indeed
[19:55] <knome> heeey, i was able to make my NUC make some noise!
[19:56] <knome> guess i should also clean up some day
[19:56] <knome> gets dusty in here...
[21:10] <flocculant> bluesabre: not happening on the live session - but what I'm seeing locally is no right click menu in catfish - not sure whether to report, as possibly an effect of something in ppa, so just ftr unless you want it reported