[15:46] <rick_h> cory_fu_: ping, you able to join the juju show call today to talk about the releases you put out to the list ?
[15:49] <cory_fu_> The reactive one is actually the thing I talked about in the previous show, I was just delayed in releasing it.  I could talk about the macaroon changes in libjuju, but I do have an appointment between 1 and 2.  What time is the show?
[15:50] <cory_fu_> rick_h: ^
[15:50] <rick_h> cory_fu_: 2pm est
[15:50] <rick_h> cory_fu_: k, yea that's what I wanted to catch up on. Does this mean libjuju can now login/get a macaroon(cookie) and be used sans any copying .go-cookies around with jaas?
[15:51] <cory_fu_> rick_h: Ok.  I will do my best to make it.  I should be able to but there's a chance my appointment might run over, or traffic getting back
[15:51] <rick_h> cory_fu_: understand
[15:52] <cory_fu_> rick_h: Well, yes, except the only thing I think we still don't support is the initial controller registration; I'm not sure what the process is for that, to sent the user, pass, and 2fa, so I'm not certain if that's already supported (though probably the browser-based login would work)
[15:53] <cory_fu_> rick_h: But, if you already have the controller registered or if browser auth is ok, then it should work without the CLI
[15:53] <rick_h> cory_fu_: hmm ok. I know folks hit some roadblocks with CI/CD workflows around the cookies and think this helps that somewhat
[15:53] <rick_h> cory_fu_: k
[15:53] <cory_fu_> Yeah, it should
[15:54] <rick_h> cory_fu_: ty
[16:18] <stub> Should I still have access to land charm-helpers MPs? Because I don't :)
[16:19] <stub> https://github.com/juju/charm-helpers/pull/108
[16:22] <stub> And if there is an enthusiastic reviewer interested in me not messing up cross model relations for them, https://github.com/juju/charm-helpers/pull/116
[17:08] <rick_h> bdx: do you have an ES cluster bundle I can use for a demo?
[17:38] <kwmonroe> rick_h: the elk-stack works, but doesn't do much (no inputs to ES): https://jujucharms.com/u/elasticsearch-charmers/elk-stack/.  there's also CDK-elastic, which works if you use the edge channel:  https://jujucharms.com/canonical-kubernetes-elastic/112
[17:38] <rick_h> kwmonroe: k, I just grabbed the beats bundle for the moment
[17:38] <kwmonroe> uhhhhhh...
[17:39] <kwmonroe> rick_h: this one? https://jujucharms.com/beats-core/
[17:39] <rick_h> kwmonroe: yea
[17:39] <kwmonroe> i wish you hadn't done that
[17:39] <kwmonroe> that's hot garbage
[17:39] <rick_h> kwmonroe: just needs to look pretty
[17:39] <rick_h> lol
[17:39] <rick_h> of course it is
[17:39] <rick_h> ok, /me tears that down
[17:40] <kwmonroe> well, it's all trusty, and the beats are subordinates, so your principals will need to be trusty for that to work
[17:40] <rick_h> kwmonroe: k
[17:40] <kwmonroe> i mean, if you're just looking at the canvas, fine, but i would use elk-stack or canonical-kubernetes-elastic for something that somewhat kinda comes close to being actually halfway decent.
[17:40] <rick_h> kwmonroe: k, will do
[17:40] <rick_h> kwmonroe: ty for the feedback
[17:41] <rick_h> yea, just need different visual demos to show new gui features with several realistic looking models
[17:41] <kwmonroe> roger that
[17:41]  * rick_h likes his pretty demos to be just a bit more interesting than mysql :P
[18:05] <TheAbsentOne> Does anyone know a charm (reactive) that uses a mysql database intense? I am researching the possibilities to abstract the idea of a database and I'm really looking for some good examples to help my learning process of writing charms.
[18:07] <rick_h> reminder!!!!! Juju Show #30 is just about 50min away so get your lunches out of the way
[18:07] <rick_h> some pretty stuff to show off today
[18:15] <kwmonroe> TheAbsentOne: hive uses the mysql interface.  when mysql gets related and becomes ready, the database.available state will be set, at which point hive will configure itself to use it:  https://github.com/juju-solutions/bigtop/blob/master/bigtop-packages/src/charm/hive/layer-hive/reactive/hive.py#L123
[18:16] <kwmonroe> TheAbsentOne: the "configure itself" bits happen in the ./lib/charms/layer class here:  https://github.com/juju-solutions/bigtop/blob/master/bigtop-packages/src/charm/hive/layer-hive/lib/charms/layer/bigtop_hive.py#L75
[18:18] <kwmonroe> TheAbsentOne: a much much simpler example is 'ubuntu-devenv', which supports relations to multiple databases, and simply logs the connection info when that relation is ready:  https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-ubuntu-devenv
[18:19] <kwmonroe> the logging bits for mysql happen here: https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-ubuntu-devenv/blob/master/reactive/ubuntu-devenv.py#L77
[18:19] <TheAbsentOne> awesome, thank you for the links kwmonroe I will take a look
[18:24] <TheAbsentOne> `The devenv seems very interesting as it supports multiple technologies as well, very nice sir
[18:44] <rick_h> get your glasses filled up for show time in 15 bdx kwmonroe agprado hml hatch cory_fu_ magicaltrout and anyone else interested. Links inbound shortly
[18:51] <rahworkx_> rick_h: going to tune in for this one!
[18:52] <rick_h> rahworkx_: woot woot
[18:55] <rick_h> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0xw3cO5IQ is the url to watch the stream and https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/lpeqvj6dczeutfosajoacuqvnae to join in the party
[18:57] <rick_h> bdx: kwmonroe cory_fu_ hatch hml agprado and party people everywhere ^
[23:24] <magicaltrout> anyone know what CUDA version is installed on CDK?
[23:28] <knobby> magicaltrout: https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-nvidia-cuda
[23:28] <knobby> looks like 8.0.61-1 and nvidia drivers 375, but I felt like it was 384 for some reason
[23:32] <magicaltrout> thanks knobby