| ubptgbot | <devsigma_bot> @ZeroPointEnergy, Wow | 00:09 |
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| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Where are the background for UT stored? | 01:23 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> ATTENTION UBAM! … Power User Guide Needed … (too bad we don't have one) | 02:00 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, Thank you! | 02:08 |
| ubptgbot | <Jaume81> @ZeroPointEnergy, How does work daily? The Ubuntu apps like calendar, contacts, call, message, etc. | 02:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Jaume81> And Galaxy S7 Edge? | 02:39 |
| ubptgbot | <samitormanen> @Michele, Oh, and I just remembered that after updating radio firmware to latest, it worked much better. If I remember right, @Flohack did some guide how to change it. It is not very hard, download factory image, extract radio image and flash it.. | 04:44 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @samitormanen, Fun fact: Upgrading the radio FW on N5 did not make much change for battery, but now in the office building we got GSM repeaters and there it disconnects every few minutes. I think I downgrade again lol | 06:06 |
| lotuspsychje_ | http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-donates-ubuntu-phones-to-ubports-to-continue-ubuntu-touch-development-519877.shtml | 06:34 |
| ubptgbot | <samitormanen> @Flohack, Damn, not so funny. 😕 … In my case it helped a lot about everything. Gsm/data is now very stable, and it also stays 4g much better. But this is of course here in Finland where I live. Others results may vary a lot. Luckily it is very easy to go back to original/older. | 06:58 |
| ubptgbot | <samitormanen> Big respect to Canonical for that donation! 👍 | 07:03 |
| ubptgbot | Roe Jogan was added by: Roe Jogan | 07:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Roe Jogan> Roe Jogan: … JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE … @joeroganexperience … Join the chat | 07:19 |
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| ubptgbot | <speedytree> @lotuspsychje_, Thanks to Canonical™ For that donation! 👍 | 07:29 |
| lotuspsychje | speedytree, yeah cool | 07:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Roe Jogan> Roe Jogan: … JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCE … @joeroganexperience … Join the chat | 07:30 |
| ubptgbot | <TrojusVerbulo> Any UB ports for Samsung note 3? | 08:11 |
| ubptgbot | <speedytree> @TrojusVerbulo, I'm sorry Ubports is not available for Note 3. You can do it yourself :) and you can check official devices : devices.ubports.com | 08:28 |
| ubptgbot | <speedytree> @TrojusVerbulo, Documents will guide you :) docs.ubports.com | 08:44 |
| ubptgbot | <speedytree> @TrojusVerbulo, [Edit] Documents will guide you about porting :) docs.ubports.com | 08:44 |
| ubptgbot | <TrojusVerbulo> Thanks I couldn't seem to find that | 09:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @TrojusVerbulo, Flo has started a port but it is fir 3 Neo | 10:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @TrojusVerbulo, [Edit] Flo has started a port but it is for 3 Neo | 10:14 |
| ubptgbot | <mehmetalihzr> Note 3 and S3 neo are different | 10:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @mehmetalihzr, +1 exactly | 10:19 |
| ubptgbot | <milkor73> @Prhys97, Hi Sergio, … Welcome! Do not forget to check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! | 10:34 |
| ubptgbot | <SleazyG> @Stereofont, Thx | 10:38 |
| ubptgbot | <milkor73> @Roe Jogan, Hi Roe: you may want to visit: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 10:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Roe Jogan, Always check with an admin before promoting outside groups. Thanks | 10:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Roe Jogan> Ok thanks | 10:46 |
| ubptgbot | batuhanTa was added by: batuhanTa | 11:01 |
| ubptgbot | <peternerlich> Welcome to the Supergroup @batuhanTa! If you haven't already, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome! | 11:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @batuhanTa, We have groups in various languages. That may assist you? | 11:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Roe Jogan> Wats this group about | 11:19 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> @Roe Jogan, In short. People interested http://ubuntu-touch.io/ | 11:21 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> @Roe Jogan, [Edit] In short. People interested in http://ubuntu-touch.io/ | 11:21 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @SleazyG, Yes and on top of this I am afraid we do not have support/use for the stylus in the Note series | 11:33 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Is there any way to use a global dark theme? All the white hurts my eyes in the morning even with the brightness ask the way down plus I justvorefer dark themes. | 11:39 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> Unfortunately not. The light theme is the default and it's up to each app to switch to the dark or custom theme. | 11:41 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Is there a way to switch like the keyboard theme? | 11:45 |
| ubptgbot | <SleazyG> @Flohack, Why not? | 11:46 |
| ubptgbot | <SleazyG> @Flohack, [Edit] Why ? | 11:46 |
| ubptgbot | <SleazyG> You must support | 11:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> Basically the stylus will work like your finger. But we do not have any app that can take written input, for example. We do not have any handwriting recognition etc. That would be the added value for a stlyus | 11:47 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> @AmolithSeregion, By editing the keyboards qml source code. It should be just an import and a property change IIRC … ```import Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark 1.3``` … And then in the change the theme in an oncompleted handler … ```Component.onCompleted: Theme.name = "Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark"``` | 12:00 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> @AmolithSeregion, [Edit] By editing the keyboards qml source code. It should be just an import and a property change IIRC … ```import Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark 1.3``` … And then to the change the theme in an oncompleted handler … ```Component.onCompleted: Theme.name = "Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark"``` | 12:00 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> @AmolithSeregion, [Edit] By editing the keyboards qml source code. It should be just an import and a property change IIRC … ```import Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark 1.3``` … And then to change the theme in an oncompleted handler … ```Component.onCompleted: Theme.name = "Ubuntu.Components.Themes.SuruDark"``` | 12:01 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> not sure actually if the import is needed or not | 12:02 |
| ubptgbot | <DanChapman> Docs suggest not https://api-docs.ubports.com/sdk/apps/qml/Ubuntu.Components/Theme.html?highlight=theme | 12:02 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @DanChapman, Alright, I'll look into that! Thank you! | 12:06 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> @Roe Jogan, really interesting... you invited us to a group of yours before you knew what group you joined? did you accidentally click a link to get here and then accidentally paste that invite when you joined? First time I've ever seen this... | 12:26 |
| ubptgbot | Tac_Tec_Oficial was added by: Tac_Tec_Oficial | 12:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Tac_Tec_Oficial, Hello Daniel. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome if you are new | 12:36 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> Zero? What is your s7 device name ? CSC etc.? | 12:47 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> Fwd from ZeroPointEnergy: <ZeroPointEnergy> halium-boot + UBports Xenial on Samsung Galaxy S7 https://youtu.be/8SHp7WaZueQ , There is probably a lot of stuff not working. But it boots! | 12:47 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> @ZeroPointEnergy, Zero? What is your s7 device name ? CSC etc.? | 12:48 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | have to check | 13:00 |
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| ZeroPointEnergy | Is there an easy way to read this from the device? | 13:22 |
| bshah | "this"? | 13:22 |
| ubptgbot | Mark was added by: Mark | 13:23 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | CSC | 13:24 |
| bshah | ZeroPointEnergy: maybe getprop? | 13:24 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @ZeroPointEnergy, You can look in any About secion maybe, or if you got adb access then try getprop | grep device | 13:26 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | [ro.cm.device]: [herolte] the product model is SM-G930F | 13:27 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Is there a way to install an app not from the OpenStore? I'd like to have Dropbox sync with a folder in my filesystem rather than using the web app. | 13:29 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> @ZeroPointEnergy, Very good , International Version | 13:30 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> If you are not on the News Channel (Rodney) then you just missed BIG NEWS! You can get it by clicking this link now. Do it. Click the link: https://t.me/ubports_news | 13:31 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @wayneoutthere, I didn't know there was a news channel; thanks! | 13:32 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> Hows' that sound @dohbee ??? I HELPED someone!!! | 13:33 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/lIbw10cJ.mp4 | 13:33 |
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| ubptgbot | <dohbee> uhm, ok | 13:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @AmolithSeregion, Is there a dropbox for ubuntu phone that's not in the store? | 13:48 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, I'm asking if there's a way to install a "normal" Ubuntu app as you would on desktop Ubuntu | 13:50 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> that's what libertine is for | 13:50 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> but dropbox is not even a "normal" ubuntu app | 13:50 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> the package you install in ubuntu is not the dropbox client. it's just a bit of UI in nautilus, which will download the client in the background | 13:51 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> does dropbox ship an ARM build? | 13:52 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i guess not | 13:52 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> nautilus-dropbox is only available on x86 | 13:52 |
| ubptgbot | <milkor73> @Mark, Hi, Mark, here is an importat Welcome starter link for You: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 13:57 |
| ubptgbot | <Mark> :) Thank you! | 13:58 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, Are there some docs for all this somewhere? I haven't found any as I've looked around | 14:00 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @bhdouglass, Thank you. I know it's annoying when new users ask questions when there is already documentation for it that answers those questions | 14:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, Nextcloud us the most popular on here | 14:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, [Edit] Nextcloud is the most popular on here | 14:03 |
| ubptgbot | <milkor73> @AmolithSeregion, Do not hesitate to ask, we have a 24h team here for new commers. 👍 | 14:08 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @Stereofont, If i set up a nextcloud server at home, how do I access it from, say, school? | 14:12 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> It is multiplatform | 14:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Join the Cloud group | 14:14 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @Stereofont, That didn't even connect | 14:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> UBports_cloudsters | 14:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I think | 14:16 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> https://t.me/UBports_Cloudsters | 14:16 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> look at me help, mom!!! | 14:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> You can also run your own local server | 14:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Maybe school server? | 14:19 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @AmolithSeregion, The same way you would access your web server or e-mail at home, while at school, I guess? I have an OpenVPN server too, so I can VPN into my home network to connect to e-mail or dlna or whatever | 14:24 |
| ubptgbot | giusemaya was added by: giusemaya | 14:30 |
| ubptgbot | <milkor73> @giusemaya, Hi Guise, here a welcome starting page for you https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 14:33 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, Networking confuses me to no end. If you have a VPN server at home, how can you use it? Don't you need a public and static IP address for it? | 14:35 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> well my ip never changes, even though it's not static, since i have gigabit fiber | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> but when the ip changes, i just update DNS with new IP, and i use a hostname to connect | 14:36 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> my router has a public IP of course, and it blocks most everything, but i can forward anything through it i want to, so i forward one port for VPN, so i can get in | 14:38 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> granted my vpn doesn't work right now for some reason and i have no idea why. something in upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04 on my server broke it i guess | 14:38 |
| ubptgbot | Mariomac66 was added by: Mariomac66 | 14:43 |
| ubptgbot | <advocatux> Hi @Mariomac66 here is an importat Welcome starter link for You: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 14:46 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, Would you mind walking me through that whole process sometime? | 14:53 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @AmolithSeregion, I doubt I would have the time, unfortunately. But there is plenty of documentation around OpenVPN, and network config in Ubuntu. And very helpful communities. If you want to ask such questions in this community, @ubports_ot might be a better place to discuss it | 14:55 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @dohbee, Is there a list of all the UBports channels somewhere? | 15:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> the welcome page i guess? | 15:02 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Welcome page for what? | 15:02 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> I keep seeing references to so many channels that I didn't know existed but there's nothing about them all on UBports.com | 15:05 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @AmolithSeregion, https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 15:22 |
| ubptgbot | Kidzwai was added by: Kidzwai | 15:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, Some users have a 'join every channel' mentality, as if collecting them for a hobby. Some are busy with people doing work, so the preference is to keep them as quiet and activity based areas | 15:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, [Edit] Some users have a 'join every channel' mentality, as if collecting them for a hobby. Some groups are busy with people doing work, so the preference is to keep them as quiet and activity based areas | 15:29 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> @Stereofont, well said man. that is exactly what's up | 15:30 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @Stereofont, That makes sense. I try to only join channels (for anything, not just Telegram) that pertain to what I'm doing | 15:30 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> on that note, UBAM is working on a 'master list' and will soon (soon) publish some kind of public group list (in addition to welcome page) | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, +1 | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> So what is the Supergroup for? | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> [Edit] So what is the Supergroup for? What kinds of things are "on-topic" for this channel? | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Supergroup is the town square. Public place for everyone and everything | 15:31 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Alright. | 15:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Off topic is aircraft design, embroidery, undersea exploration … | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, except Churchill | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @Stereofont, Alright lol | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> offtopic is anything not related to ubports | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> an ubuntu phone/tablet embroidery app would totally be on topic | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @dohbee, Unless in small quantities. Fun is not entirely off topic | 15:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @dohbee, Or an aircraft design app | 15:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> It is to be honest not very severe here | 15:35 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, sorry, but i don't like profiteering warmonger racists :) | 15:35 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, @ubports_ot | 15:35 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, yes, that's the point i was making :) | 15:36 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I concur | 15:39 |
| ubptgbot | <jonny> @Stereofont, Whats the problem with people joining a group just to watch without disturbing anyone? Especially if they think they might be helpful, but first want to check what is happening and how the team is working. | 15:40 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> That's fine... until it's not. | 15:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @jonny, No problem. Just a matter of balance. Some want to watch before they get involved. It depends on the attitude of the individual. Halium was badly disrupted by 'tourists' for a time | 15:43 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> Does anyone know how to call a specific font in an .XML file for display in an app? | 15:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @TartanSpartan, don't quite understand the question (there's an app dev channel too btw) | 15:49 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> Say if I want to use a custom installed font within XML for display in an app (not for Ubuntu, but developed in Ubuntu). How do I do this? | 15:50 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> And how custom? This custom: | 15:53 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> https://www.dafont.com/streamster.font | 15:53 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> xml files are just data. they don't generally specify fonts | 15:54 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> so i still don't quite understand what you're trying to do exactly | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> According to this they can? | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/look-and-feel/fonts-in-xml.html | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> ie, what are you trying to display with said font, and in what app? a custom app, or web stuff, or what? | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <JhoeyLennon> I | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <JhoeyLennon> E | 15:55 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> well that's embedding a font for use by the Android toolkit in Android 8+ | 15:56 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> not a general thing. it's a thing specific to android and you do it how they tell you to do it | 15:56 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> ie, the sdk should tell you (but this is now off topic for ubports supergroup i think) | 15:57 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> (Photo, 960x544) https://irc.ubports.com/h8xKmu9y.png I want to, if possible, show the string VitaShell in a custom font. | 15:57 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @TartanSpartan, Unless VitaShell has a specific way to do that, you can't | 15:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i don't know how it does things, but i'm pretty sure it's not an android toolkit app | 15:58 |
| ubptgbot | <spfox0> Why does snap packages doesn't resume downloading after an interruption? | 15:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> you should probably ask the vitashell devs | 15:58 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @spfox0, a bug in snapd | 15:58 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> Fair enough, I'll take your word for it, but I'll also ask Vita devs in general. It's possible to specify the colour of the text, but I won't disagree that font specification would be a whole other beast. | 15:59 |
| ubptgbot | <spfox0> So… any plan of official ports on new devices? | 16:00 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Hi @spfox0, that's a question that's answered in our FAQ: https://ubports.com/community/faq | 16:01 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> "Will you port to my device, which is not currently in the core devices or legacy devices list?" | 16:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @TartanSpartan, there's a difference between "specify a font family to use" and "embed a ttf inside an xml file as a resource for the toolkit" too | 16:01 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> So I guess a collary to what you just said is "is there a way to specify my font as one of a family, so that I could use it as in your former comparitive?" | 16:03 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> *comparative | 16:03 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> And, would that be dependent on the specific hardware the app is built for? | 16:04 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> http://wololo.net/2017/09/25/can-now-customize-hacked-ps-vitas-fonts-worth-risk/ | 16:04 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> Hmmm maybe not worth the risk. | 16:04 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @TartanSpartan, it depends on the software loading the fonts, which perhaps also is dependent on the underlying OS for how that's done | 16:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> but at this point, i think we should move to @ubports_ot for any further discussion on that topic | 16:09 |
| ubptgbot | <TartanSpartan> No problem, that gives me a good idea, thank you :) | 16:13 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Which group would I joinfor app development? | 16:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, Answered | 16:41 |
| ubptgbot | Dennis Shimer was added by: Dennis Shimer | 18:04 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Dennis Shimer, https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome hello Dennis, you can get up to speed with this link | 18:08 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Any idea why my notes continually disappear? | 18:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, Notes? | 18:54 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> @Stereofont, In the Notes app | 18:54 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @AmolithSeregion, Sounds like a bug. Hopefully someone will come along who knows | 18:56 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> Should I add a screenshot or no? | 18:56 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Wait until someone picks it up. If there are 800 messages it my get submerged | 18:57 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I didn't find that in OpenStore. Have you tried QuickMemo? | 18:59 |
| ubptgbot | <AmolithSeregion> No but I will. It's the default Notes app I think | 19:02 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I don't have it. uWriter if you want to write longer, formatted documents | 19:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I think you somehow got something from the old store | 19:07 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, Probably someone needs to upload it there? | 19:07 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> QuickMemo may be the successor | 19:08 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> https://launchpad.net/reminders-app | 19:08 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, The app description says quick memo is no longer maintained | 19:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> and it doesn't look to be a fork of the reminders app? | 19:10 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i miss the original notes app though | 19:10 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> which reminders-app replaced | 19:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Notes was an Evernote application | 19:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I can't see the author | 19:10 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> yes, reminders-app is evernote, but i think it also does offline notes | 19:11 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, quickmemo is @sverzegnassi … lp:reminders-app was a core app maintained by the core apps team | 19:11 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Reminders doesn't come up when searching for notes 🙂 | 19:12 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> no, nobody uploaded it to open store it seems; as i first said about it :) | 19:12 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> reminders-app is installed by default though | 19:12 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> at least on the last 15.04 builds | 19:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> So an app gap, along with twilight screen dimming … | 19:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Volunteers please step forward | 19:14 |
| ubptgbot | <tsimonq2> @Stereofont, Volunteers? I like volunteering | 19:14 |
| ubptgbot | <Greg> Is camera flash/flashlight disabled on fairphone on current stable build | 19:15 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i'm more of a volunteller | 19:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Greg, Flashlight as in torch was causing LED to burn out in some devices. That may have been disabled. Camera flash is okay I thought? | 19:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Camera module 1 or 2? | 19:20 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, the camera on the screen side has a flash? | 19:22 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> No, there's two modules | 19:22 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> 2 is an upgrade | 19:22 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> oh | 19:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> The flash is integrated into the module | 19:24 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @dohbee, looks like it's installed on 16.04 images still too. weird | 19:27 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> how is it pulling that to build rootfs, if ubuntu store is down? | 19:28 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> It's built as a deb | 19:28 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Greg, I have module 2. No flash, when flash is set to On | 19:31 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, no, it's a click in /usr/share/click/preinstalled/ | 19:32 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> oh | 19:32 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> next to openstore | 19:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Greg> Camera flash doesn't seem to work for me, just checked the flash is fine reinstalling android, this is camera module 2 | 19:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Greg> Everthing else is fine though | 19:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Greg, Confirmed. A bug | 19:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Also noticed that the default resolution in camera app is the lowest. 0.9 megapixels. You have to manually select 12 megapixels | 19:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Greg> Ooh I will definitely do that thanks for the heads up | 19:40 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Why would anyone want small, blurry photos? ?? | 19:41 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @Stereofont, I had a lot of issues with 5MB pictures on E5, for example. COnstantly Apps were closed, I could not even transfer a pic from the camera to telegram. Plus people with a data plan that has not so much bandwidth. Of course the smallest resolutions are not rly usable | 19:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I understand. A resizing app is another to add to the list then 😎 | 19:43 |
| ubptgbot | <malditobastardo> and if you attach kind of 10 photos TG hardcrash and you have to reinstall all over again | 19:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @malditobastardo, Oops | 19:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @Stereofont, No it does not help. The way how data exchange is made between apps will also lead to issues with the resizing app. See InstantFX, the same. Lot out of memory conditions. | 19:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> The whole Content hub concepot expects unlimited storage and RAM it seems lols | 19:46 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Actually resizing doesn't help if the camera app itself crashes on BQ 4.5 and E5 | 19:46 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> Because all Apps are protected, all data must pass through memory | 19:46 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @Stereofont, Did only happen for me with HDR mode 😆 | 19:47 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> "IF you use all the RAM things die" | 19:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Would it be a simple matter to have different resolution defaults for different devices? | 19:48 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Just asking … | 19:48 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, Poor solution to a problem unrelated to the camera itself, though | 19:49 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> The default size should be the native size for the camera, really | 19:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I guess the answer is just to raise awareness that the setting is there | 19:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @dohbee, agreed. And I think its still the case with a fresh install, someone should check | 19:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> A first use flag? | 19:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> well the first use flag is implicit done by having no setting in the settings file or db, and then it applies a default value | 19:51 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> thats how I solve this normally | 19:51 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> when i open camera app, it only has fine/normal/basic | 19:52 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> and it deafults to "normal" | 19:52 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> whatever that means | 19:52 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i presume it is not the native camera resolution | 19:53 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I have about 20 possibles, including 4:3 and 16:9 | 19:53 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Many Android phones will run at lower than native by default though | 19:54 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Processing time is probably the reason there | 19:54 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> this is on my n5 with 16.04 | 19:54 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, Yeah, some have some pretty crazy megapixel cameras, i guess just for the marketing aspect | 19:55 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | hmm, somehow I'm still missing symlinks. I just got wifi working by simply "ln -s /android/system/etc/wifi /etc/wifi" because it was looking for /etc/wifi/nvram_net.txt_c0 but that was under /android/system/... | 20:19 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Zero is there no irc link to Halium group? | 20:20 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> He's there | 20:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Ah okay | 20:21 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> But it's specifically Ubuntu Touch | 20:21 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | yes, I try to get ubuntu touch running | 20:21 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Sorry. I wasn't clear where he would get the most useful replues | 20:21 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> [Edit] Sorry. I wasn't clear where he would get the most useful replies | 20:22 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | I have the very strange issue that the onscreen keyboard is not showing up :-) | 20:22 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> That's not very strange | 20:22 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | I wanted to hear that | 20:23 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | :-) | 20:23 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> it's an unfortunately common issue | 20:23 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> It's a feature | 20:23 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | any hints where I have to look to fix it? | 20:23 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> You can do `stop maliit-server` | 20:24 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> and then `maliit-server` | 20:24 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | that is the onscreen keyboard service? Looks like it crashes | 20:25 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> debugging time | 20:25 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, without `start` ? | 20:26 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> oh right | 20:26 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Yeah, so that it's run manually | 20:26 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Without environment and so | 20:26 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> it has a log in .cache/upstart/ too no? | 20:26 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> It shoudl | 20:31 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | Ah, I0m just too dumb and tried to run it as root. With phablet the keyboard now shows up | 20:34 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | nice, wifi is working now that I can enter the password :-) | 20:36 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | but all the apps are still crashing | 20:36 |
| ubptgbot | <speedytree> @ZeroPointEnergy, Very good , arm64? | 20:38 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> yeah, there seems to be a need to add some device-specific apparmor rules for new devices | 20:38 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | @speedytree yes | 20:38 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | but 32bit rootfs | 20:38 |
| ubptgbot | <speedytree> That's very good news for Sam users... | 20:40 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i wonder if there's some way to put the device-specific apparmor bits inside the custom tarball, instead of having to merge them all into apparmor-easyprof | 20:40 |
| ubptgbot | Augusto Biollo was added by: Augusto Biollo | 20:54 |
| ubptgbot | <advocatux> @Augusto Biollo, Hi Augusto here is an importat Welcome starter link for You: https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 21:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Augusto Biollo, There are also language groups | 21:01 |
| rpadovani | So I tried to join #ubuntu-touch and was redirect here. It's a bit sad to see how few people there are, 4/5 years ago it was an amazing channel :'( Anyway, you are doing and awesome job guys, I have no time to contribute anymore but I always lurk what you do, and my MX4 is always in front of me :-) | 21:01 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | @dohbee is there somewhere an example of such apparmor rules | 21:01 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @rpadovani you can't see the 1300+ people who are on the telegram channel, from irc | 21:02 |
| rpadovani | dohbee, well, that's super cool :D Yeah indeed on IRC there are just 60 people, but I see why Telegram is preferred | 21:02 |
| ubptgbot | rpadovani was added by: rpadovani | 21:02 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ZeroPointEnergy, https://github.com/ubports/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/tree/xenial/data/hardware | 21:02 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | @dohbee thanks | 21:03 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> Example : Can we make ubports port to Flashable Zip? | 21:04 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> seems some different hardware needs some different things, but ideally that stuff would be in device tarball, not easyprof | 21:04 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @rannyman, No, it's not an android ROM | 21:04 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> Is there an easy way? | 21:05 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> For basic users | 21:05 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> to install ubuntu? on supported devices, the installer will work | 21:05 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> On development devices, read the docs | 21:05 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> if you need to port to a new device, no, it's not easy. there is no easy way to port | 21:06 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> No not port. After porting . Sharing working image | 21:06 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @rpadovani, Welcome on here too https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 21:06 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> [Edit] No , not port. After porting , Sharing working image | 21:07 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> [Edit] No , not porting. After porting , Sharing working image | 21:08 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @rannyman, If the port is good enough to start building daily images, i guess it may be possible to start getting daily builds hosted on ubports system-image server, but I don't know if there is a specific set of requirements for what is "good enough" there | 21:08 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> [Edit] No , not porting. After ported , Sharing working image | 21:08 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> is there a definition of that somewhere, ^^, @UniversalSuperBox ? | 21:08 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> @dohbee, At least Ubports İmage :) | 21:08 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @rannyman, If you mean 'offline' then no | 21:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> The whole point of being here and porting ubuntu, is to work within the ubports community to do things | 21:09 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> until there are daily builds available, it's not going to be "easy" to install something on a device | 21:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @rannyman, Is it your concern that a very bad internet connection would make it difficult to use an installer that uses live download? | 21:12 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> Not internet , flashing image | 21:13 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, We could build an installer that ships an already built image, specific to a device. But that doesn't help with porting to a new device and allowing multiple people to install | 21:13 |
| ubptgbot | <rannyman> For basic users | 21:13 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> The installer is pretty basic | 21:14 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, Ran is asking about installing images that don't exist on ubports servers | 21:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @dohbee, But as an alternative to what? The installer, I assumed | 21:16 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> Ran wants to be able to build a developoment image locally, and just hand something to other local users in a group, to test on their devices | 21:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Nothing to do with porting though, as you explained | 21:16 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @dohbee, Ah. Understood | 21:17 |
| ubptgbot | <Flohack> @rannyman, You can install offline. But its not like Android install, you need special tools. Bes is to use Linux / Ubuntu for flashing | 21:17 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> some work could be done to do something with building custom installers with a local set of tarballs, to create an offline installer, for a specific device | 21:17 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> it will take a fair bit of work, but it's certainly something that could be done | 21:18 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> To facilitate group development rather than one lone pioneer? | 21:19 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, well, to facilitate installability in regions with poor connectivity as well | 21:20 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Admirable idea | 21:21 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> one person could download the installer, and then flash all their friends' devices much more easily for example | 21:21 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> or in places with more controlled access to the internet | 21:22 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Like Cuban internet 😎 | 21:22 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> as well as for making it easier to get development images installed on multiple devices for testing | 21:23 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> which is what i presume Ran was specifically asking about | 21:23 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Stereofont, well i was thinking more specifically of certain EMEA regions, but sure ;) | 21:23 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @dohbee, They carry it around neighbourhoods on USB sticks | 21:24 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> yep | 21:24 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> The question then is whether we can find the resources to do that or is one of those out of reach 'nice to haves' | 21:37 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> i think there's a couple different things in there, and probably generally pretty doable, but i haven't looked at the installer code at all | 21:54 |
| ubptgbot | Davide Cristoni was added by: Davide Cristoni | 22:00 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Davide Cristoni, Hello Davide. If you are new to Ubuntu Touch have a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 22:02 |
| ubptgbot | <wayneoutthere> @UniversalSuperBox, lol-cakes | 22:05 |
| ubptgbot | <peternerlich> Hey nextcloud enthusiasts! Anyone got WebDAV access to work in Ubuntu/eOS? | 22:10 |
| ubptgbot | <Davide Cristoni> @Stereofont, Thank you, I'll read it | 22:12 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | maliit-server seams to crash with "Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m->mutex) == 0' failed at pulsecore/mutex-posix.c:108, function pa_mutex_unlock(). Aborting." pulseaudio issue? | 22:20 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ZeroPointEnergy> maliit-server seams to crash with "Assertion 'pthread_mutex_unlock(&m-, would seem so. does audio work at all on your port? | 22:21 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | nope, test_audio fails as well | 22:22 |
| ubptgbot | Kevin Kuhns was added by: Kevin Kuhns | 22:26 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Hallo sorry for my bad english im from germany any germens here too? … With the ubports installer does my phone stuck in a bootloop | 22:28 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @ZeroPointEnergy, Sounds like bugs. :/ | 22:28 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Kevin Kuhns, @ubports_de for German group | 22:29 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Okay i dont found it on the page thanke you | 22:29 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | there seams to be no library like /system/lib/hw/audio_amplifier.default.so in my systems image | 22:29 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | at least that is what test_audio complains about | 22:30 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> @dohbee, How can i get ther don‘t know this app 🙈 | 22:30 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> @Kevin Kuhns, Click the blue @ubports_de and then the big "join" button | 22:31 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Okay it show me there is no user like this | 22:32 |
| ubptgbot | <Romansk1> This should work: https://t.me/UBports_Deutsch | 22:32 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> Oh | 22:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> I had it wrong, sorry | 22:33 |
| ubptgbot | <dohbee> Inconsistent channels. :( | 22:33 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @Kevin Kuhns, We have a German group | 22:33 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> Hello, would you like to update your Internet Lionel? :P | 22:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> @dohbee, If you know ther is a german group you can find it easy habe it thanke you | 22:34 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Sorry should have read ahead 😋 | 22:35 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> It should be de but we gave up on that … | 22:36 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Im out bye | 22:38 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Explanation of that anyone? 🤔 | 22:40 |
| ubptgbot | <UniversalSuperBox> He's still here | 22:40 |
| ZeroPointEnergy | ok.. if I start pulsaudio manually that fixes the keyboard... because logic | 22:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Michele> @samitormanen, also for d821? | 22:48 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Ohne Benutzenamen ist est unmöglich, eine Einladung zu geben | 22:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Don Know how go out | 22:55 |
| ubptgbot | <Kevin Kuhns> Bin in der deutschen gruppe | 22:57 |
| ubptgbot | <padraic7a> Big news from Signal. Massive cash injection will lead to more developers working on the project. May increase the support they can offer UT I guess. … https://signal.org/blog/signal-foundation/ | 23:02 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Hallo Kevin, wenn du nicht jemand finden kannst, vielleicht könnte ich mal versuchen. Mein Deutsch ist aber nicht fabelhaft (NL) | 23:03 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> How to leave groups in UT Telegram? I can't figure it either | 23:07 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> Du kannst in dieser Gruppe bleiben, aber wenn du raus gehen wollt, öffnet die Gruppeninfo und suche bei deine Name "verlassen" oder gleich artiges. | 23:08 |
| ubptgbot | <Waldbursche> Oben auf die 3Punkte klicken und "Gruppe verlassen" | 23:15 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/6ul3CTto.png | 23:15 |
| ubptgbot | <YougoChats> @Stereofont | 23:15 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> I see. Slide to the right | 23:16 |
| ubptgbot | muyiscoi was added by: muyiscoi | 23:37 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> @muyiscoi, Hello Muyiwa you can read more about UBports here https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 23:39 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> We have a lot of groups in other languages too, if that would help | 23:41 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> Thanks @Stereofont. I'm fine with the English group | 23:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Great | 23:42 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Anything we can help you with? | 23:42 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> Not specifically. I just want to be part of the conversation. … I was quite interested in Ubuntu touch while it was still being developed by canonical and would love to see how things have progressed since then | 23:45 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> I'm not a developer, but can certainly help in other ways like testing as needed | 23:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Nice. The answer is quite a lot, in less than a year | 23:45 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> What device were you using then? | 23:46 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> My main phone is a oneplus 3, however, I still have a nexus 5 which has Ubuntu touch on it from way back when. | 23:46 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> I haven't used it in atleast a year, but it should still work | 23:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> So the Canonical version | 23:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Easy to update to UBports Ubuntu Touch but not on the phone directly | 23:47 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Is it well charged up? | 23:48 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> I see. What's the best way to update then? Reflash? | 23:48 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> We have an installer | 23:49 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> @Stereofont, No it's not. I'll have to dig it out of the drawers when I get back home next week. On holiday at the moment | 23:49 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> What OS is your computer | 23:49 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> Ubuntu | 23:50 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> No problem. Charge well before flashing. When you are ready, the Welcome and Install room is the best place to head. Link is in the link I sent | 23:51 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Enjoy your holiday! | 23:51 |
| ubptgbot | <muyiscoi> Awesome! Thanks for the welcome! | 23:52 |
| ubptgbot | <Stereofont> Nexus 5 is still a core device | 23:52 |
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