[20:41] <AmericanBlend> hey, can i get unbanned at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:51] <hggdh> AmericanBlend: why where you banned?
[20:52] <AmericanBlend> got into an argument, someone kicked me for no reason, came back offended, threw some vulgar words in dissapointment and left
[20:52] <AmericanBlend> then they've put a permaban
[20:55] <hggdh> and?
[20:56] <AmericanBlend> and that's it. i can't get in anymore. i have a proposition to lift the ban off.
[20:58] <hggdh> please tell us about it
[21:00] <AmericanBlend> i already did
 got into an argument, someone kicked me for no reason, came back offended, threw some vulgar words in dissapointment and left
[21:00] <wxl> i think he meant your proposition
[21:01] <AmericanBlend> it was already said, the proposition was to unban me
[21:01] <AmericanBlend> i'm unsure what's unclear here
[21:01] <wxl> what assurance will there be that no such similar situations will occur again? your actions are quite clearly a violation of the IRC guidelines.
[21:03] <AmericanBlend> i can't be sure will someone vwill kick me out for no reason aain
[21:03] <wxl> i'm quite sure it was not for no reasno.
[21:04] <AmericanBlend> that was  by a guy that i newver even talked with before
[21:04] <AmericanBlend> and i was talking with another op
[21:04] <AmericanBlend> so he had absolutely no reason to do so
[21:05] <wxl> this also seems like it hasn't been the first time you have been banned from the channel.
[21:05] <AmericanBlend> no, it's not
[21:05] <AmericanBlend> twice or triple times over 10 years
[21:06] <wxl> so, that would suggest you have had some difficulty keeping in line with the IRC guidelines. that means the onus is on you to assure the ops that no such violation will happen again.
[21:06] <AmericanBlend> dude
[21:06] <AmericanBlend> i'm telling you
[21:06] <AmericanBlend> i have no bloody idea will some op will ever kick me for no reason again
[21:07] <AmericanBlend> it's an unknown
[21:07] <hggdh> AmericanBlend: this is not going anywhere. I see your behaviour in the channel as trollish. You do not seem to find it so
[21:08] <AmericanBlend> i have no intention to troll here, you're are being difficult for no reason
[21:08] <hggdh> AmericanBlend: as an aside, /ignore-ing ops is something one should not do
[21:08] <hggdh> AmericanBlend: if you *do* ignore ops, you do it at your own risk
[21:09] <AmericanBlend> i have no ignore set on this channel
[21:09] <hggdh> just commenting on what you wrote, and the lack of responses to an ops
[21:09] <AmericanBlend> actually i have no ignores set at all in this client, where do you come up with this?
[21:09] <AmericanBlend> dude, forget it, you want to be a prick, be it, just don't involeve me
[21:10] <wxl> that language right there is entirely working against you
[21:12] <hggdh> @mark #ubuntu-ops AmericanBlend requiring un-ban, no change in behaviour
[21:17] <dax> @btlogin