[02:48] <^Gecko^> I installed kubuntu 17.04 in a vbox VM, trying to install the guest additions, it's not working.  trying to install build-essentials and module-assistant, apt-get says unable to locate package
[02:48] <^Gecko^> any ideas what's going on?
[03:32] <valorie> !info build-essentials
[03:32] <valorie> hmmm
[03:33] <Unit193> !info build-essential
[03:33] <valorie> oh, nothing is gonna work in 17.04
[03:33] <valorie> duh
[03:33] <valorie> thanks Unit193
[03:33] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[03:33] <valorie> i've installed it successfully before
[03:33] <valorie> the person is gone anyway, so whatever
[07:04] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:12] <brnghkmrs> sap
[07:13] <brnghkmrs> I managed to make the sound better following those instructions
[07:13] <brnghkmrs> whoever was helping me
[07:15] <brnghkmrs> can someone help me find the grub file?
[07:16] <brnghkmrs> I want to edit it
[07:26] <lordievader> Grub configuration is either in `/etc/default/grub` or in `/etc/grub.d/*`
[07:39] <brnghkmrs> ok
[07:40] <brnghkmrs> be back tomorrow
[07:40] <brnghkmrs> c yall
[10:39] <obert_> daily updates :(
[10:40] <obert_> and it asks for reboot too
[10:40] <obert_> what a boring thing
[10:43] <shka> ok
[10:43] <shka> Salza2 does the trick
[10:45] <shka> oh it was written by Xach, and it has nice docs
[10:46] <shka> cool!
[10:53] <viewer|4719> could someone please me if you can install via a usb < 2gb?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:58] <Guest54224> Hi! How do I see how often discover checks for updates and when it displays them?
[12:58] <Guest54224> I am on Kubuntu 15.10 with backports enabled. So Plasma 5.12.1 .
[13:01] <BluesKaj> !EOL | Guest54224
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Guest54224, 15.10 is EOL
[13:02] <Guest54224> Lol! Sorry! I mean Kubuntu 17.10 of course!!!
[13:02] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:02] <Guest54224> Everything is alright supportwise. I am just too thick to find the settings
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Guest54224, most users run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade to stay current, unattended updates also runs automatically a couple of mins after booting up
[13:04] <Guest54224> BluesKaj: do you know where I can find this setting? I have the impression that my system does not search or not display the results on its own. When I search manually, everything is fine.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> !unattended
[13:05] <Guest54224> How do I check that?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> !unattended-updates
[13:05] <Guest54224> I do bit understand your answer. Should I type that into a terminal?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Guest54224, yes
[13:06] <Guest54224> I will try.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> or copy and paste it to a terminal :_)
[13:07] <Guest54224> To make my goals clear: A friend wants to move to linux and terminals are not an option for her. I want to give her Kubuntu, but there has to be a gui way to be informed about new updates and to install them.
[13:08] <Guest54224> I do sudo apt update all the time.
[13:09] <Guest54224> But it would not work for her. I kniw that on Mint there us a nice little indicator telling if there are updates. But I want her to be on the same distro as me so I can support her better.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> Guest54224, kubuntu has that indicator as well, just make sure it's enabled in the system tray
[13:13] <Guest54224> Well, then by elimination discover must not check for updates regularly. Because even when I open discover (without pushing the "check for updates"- button), it says that there are updates. I know tgat there should be some since 5.12.2 has landed, right?
[13:13] <Guest54224> Sirry
[13:14] <Guest54224> Sorry
[13:14] <Guest54224> Discover states that there are NO updates.
[13:15] <Guest54224> So my system does not know about updates. Thus the checkung interval must be the problem.
[13:15] <Guest54224> Sorry if I am being really stupid here.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> I can assure you that the command line is easier to deal with than the discover gui , even for a new user, simpler quicker etc. and apt, discover and all package mangers in the 'buntiu flavours use the dpkg base system for package management. The terminal is your friend, not something arcane or fearsome.
[13:17] <Guest54224> I totally agree with you, blueskaj. And I am comfortable with doing my uodates this way. My family/friends however, are not.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Guest54224, sometimes your system is up to date and there are no upgrades or new packages in the repositories
[13:17] <Guest54224> Is that probable after more than 7 days and a new plasma version?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> just show them the simple apt update command and watch what happens :-)
[13:18] <zxq9> My eldest daughter and I do the command line way -- my wife and niece do it the GUI way. And things just tend to sort of work out. Occasionally the GUI method seems to be about a day behind.
[13:18] <zxq9> Meh.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> nothing to fear,...IMO discover is clunky and slow and more difficult to use than the cli
[13:21] <zxq9> It is quite slow. But GUI people really like to see stuff moving around, particularly horizontal lines moving around. So whatever.
[13:40] <tralla> hello, it's ok last libreoffice update?
[13:40] <benvantende[m]> sure stable and rocking!
[13:51] <zxq9> tralla: If you mean v6, then so far from what we've seen with customers on Windows and Linux, it has been quite nice.
[13:52] <zxq9> No idea how it is working on OSX.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> there should be a kernel upgrade today on 17.10. uname -r should show 4.13..0-36 after rebooting the upgrade
[14:06] <morty696> hello?
[14:06] <morty696> anyone there?
[14:06] <morty696> just saying hello
[14:06] <morty696> lol
[14:07] <morty696> which is the best linux irc client?.. im using quassel its ok i guess
[14:13] <mparillo> Quassel is unmatched if you can manage to separate the client and server portions. Otherwise, I prefer konversation. But if the support requests start coming in here, a better place for idle chit-chat is #kubuntu-offtopic.
[14:16] <nuvi222> I am having a popup for debconf in Ubuntu asking for my secure boot password, but I don't understand what it is for, so I try to skip it. Then after forcing it close, the cpu runs like crazy, and I am forced to reboot... Do you know what it is, and what should I do about it?
[14:17] <nuvi222> I realize this is Kubuntu, and not Ubuntu, but I can't get through to their IRC, so I am hoping that this will be close enough.
[15:15] <zugr> Трям
[15:15] <zugr> Живые есть?
[15:16] <genii> !ru
[15:17] <zugr> thx
[17:02] <nllbyt> 202.169.224.178
[22:39] <D0U91E> can i safely do release upgrade from 14.04 lts to 18.04 lts?
[22:51] <valorie> ‎D0U91E yes, when prompted to do so
[22:51] <valorie> which will be a month or two after release
[22:52] <valorie> basically the 18.04.1
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[22:52] <valorie> certainly not advised *now*; we're just approaching beta 1 time
[22:52] <valorie> oh
[22:53] <valorie> right, I wouldn't do that
[22:53] <valorie> that is quite a massive change
[22:53] <valorie> thanks for catching that acheronuk
[23:47] <user|9717> Olá podem me dá uma  ajuda
[23:47] <user|9717> Hello, can you help with KDE?