[00:01] <fx250> I want to temporarily add like 15 seconds to linux system boot time so I can see if usplash works, but it boots to quickly on a test machine.  Is there a way I can configure Ubuntu to sleep for 15 seconds before X login appears?
[00:02] <fx250> s/ to / too /
[00:02] <fx250> ah nm
[00:05] <jk^> hi all, i opened "Disks" and it tells me my pendrive have 19 GB of free space. I have to put into it 18 GB, but to avoid a unsuccessful operation, i just copy/past to that pendrive 16 GB of data. Now i'd have 3 GB of free space, but now the app "Disks" tells me there is just 1,1 GB :\ so i can't copy/paste the other 2 GB of data :\ why?
[00:10] <skulltip2> should i switch to xorg and disable wayland?
[00:11] <kk4ewt> are you using nvidia video card
[00:12] <skulltip2> yes
[00:17] <Aero> hi
[00:25] <texla> What is the proper term to change the permissions of a file "chmod"or "chown"
[00:26] <nacc> texla: chmod
[00:26] <nacc> texla: chown "CHanges OWNership"
[00:27] <texla> nacc, Thanks for info
[00:35] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to mount a 5-10 yr old memorex 25x 700mb 80min audio cd-r on ubuntu 16.04.3?
[00:36] <slimjimflim> https://pastebin.com/NvfwsDYt
[00:37] <tomcres> You can't mount an audio CD.
[00:37] <tomcres> It doesn't have a filesystem on it.
[00:38] <slimjimflim> oh. should i just start ripping then?
[00:39] <tomcres> Yes, it should be instantly accessible from whatever ripper you're using.
[00:39] <slimjimflim> k thanks. haven't ripped a cd in a long time
[00:47] <cheako> Hello, I just debootstraped artful and tried to install libglvnd-dev  and it wasn't available.
[00:48] <cheako> I altered my apt source to bionic and found the same, even though it's listed as part of both releases.
[00:50] <cheako> This is important for a package I'm trying to upload to a ppa: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/357949350/buildlog_ubuntu-artful-i386.renderdoc_0.91-12_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:51] <bazhang> !info libglvnd-dev | cheako
[00:51] <bazhang> cheako, first off, never mix release version repos, and it is in the artful repos
[00:57] <cheako> bazhang: That may be, but it's clearly missing from the Packages files.
[00:58] <bazhang> cheako, which packages
[00:58] <cheako> grepping for libglv
[00:58] <bazhang> cheako, not everyone needs it
[00:59] <bazhang> cheako, but it's there if you do
[01:00] <cheako> bazhang: No it's not...  cheako@debian:~/Downloads$ xzcat Packages.xz | grep -n libglv
[01:00] <cheako> cheako@debian:~/Downloads$
[01:01] <bazhang> cheako, in debian?
[01:01] <purplepod> Hmm are these updates here today Intel's new meltdown fix attempts?
[01:01] <cheako> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/artful/main/binary-amd64/
[01:02] <cheako> I downloaded Packages.xz and interrogated it for the package.
[01:03] <cheako> It's not even in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/
[01:04] <bazhang> https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/libglvnd-dev cheako
[01:05] <cheako> bazhang: apt-get doesn't download that.
[01:06] <bazhang> cheako, sure it does, as long as you have that repo enabled, and have updated your sources list
[01:06] <purplepod> yep looks like it fixed the vulnerabilities, i'm, getting not vulnerable on all 3 now
[01:06] <purplepod> > STATUS:  NOT VULNERABLE  (Mitigation: OSB (observable speculation barrier, Intel v6))
[01:06] <purplepod> > STATUS:  NOT VULNERABLE  (Mitigation: Full generic retpoline)
[01:06] <purplepod> > STATUS:  NOT VULNERABLE  (Mitigation: PTI)
[01:07] <cheako> bazhang: No it downloads a list of installable packages from the Packages file that references the download URL for the deb, like pool/main/a/acct/acct_6.6.4-1_amd64.deb for example the first listing.
[01:09] <bazhang> cheako, it's at packages.ubuntu.com , and many other official ubuntu resources say it is there, however you are searching must be missing the use of those
[01:09] <cheako> BTW the packages files are stored in /var/lib/apt and you can look at them there.
[01:10] <cheako> bazhang: Try installing it.
[01:10] <bazhang> cheako, give us a lsb_release -a please
[01:10] <cheako> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/357949350/buildlog_ubuntu-artful-i386.renderdoc_0.91-12_BUILDING.txt.gz
[01:10] <jyc> After suspending my laptop, it seems like my USB keyboard/mouse don't work any more. They get power, but typing / moving the mouse doesn't do anything--I also don't see anything in dmesg, although weirdly I do see the devices in lsusb
[01:11] <jyc> does anyone know if this is a libinput problem? (I'm on Wayland)
[01:11] <cheako> That's what lead me to boot up a debootstrap.
[01:11] <cheako> root@debian:~# lsb_release -a
[01:11] <cheako> No LSB modules are available.
[01:11] <cheako> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:11] <cheako> Description:	Ubuntu 17.10
[01:11] <cheako> Release:	17.10
[01:11] <cheako> Codename:	artful
[01:14] <cheako> The error I get is "sbuild-build-depends-renderdoc-dummy : Depends: libglvnd-dev but it is not going to be installed" though I understand that this is not informative.
[01:14] <nacc> cheako: that's not what that error means
[01:14] <nacc> cheako: it means it's not installable, which is not necessarily the same
[01:14] <nacc> cheako: you looke din the main packages file
[01:14] <nacc> cheako: but that package is in universe
[01:14] <cheako> root@debian:~# apt-cache search libglv; # Results in nothing.
[01:15] <cheako> ohhh.
[01:15] <nacc> cheako: i'm sorry, perhaps debootstrap is not for you :)
[01:15] <nacc> cheako: you know a bit too much? :)
[01:15] <Ben64> yeah the package is there
[01:15] <nacc> cheako: typically the above message from the builder is that there is a dependency issue
[01:16] <Ben64> fired up vm, boom can install
[01:16] <nacc> cheako: so that package becasem uninstallable, possibly due to someting else
[01:16] <nacc> *became
[01:16] <cheako> nacc: Thanks, I bet it's super easy to get a PPA to reference universe.
[01:16] <nacc> cheako: should be in its settings, yes
[01:21] <bazhang> so he had a PPA blocking the install?
[01:23] <cheako> bazhang: No, I need this pkg in my own PPA.
[01:24] <cheako> Looks like I'll have to upload it myself as the "Edit PPA dependencies" screen doesn't seem to understand universe.
[01:32] <larry> any red hat guys here !!
[01:32] <bazhang> larry, try #rhel
[01:33] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support larry
[01:33] <larry> ok thanks bz
[01:33] <bazhang> welcome
[01:34] <stoopkid> hello, i'm using a computer that had an encrypted home directory with ecryptfs. i've managed to decrypt and mount it with ecryptfs-recover-private --rw, and i see that i can write files into the mounted directory, does anybody know what would need to be done to re-encrypt and unmount this directory?
[01:36] <stoopkid> i try "ecryptfs-umount-private /tmp/ecryptfs.d2wICJDV/" but that just says "open, no such file or direcctory. Error locking counter"
[01:36] <stoopkid> unfortunately there's no info in the manpage i'm not sure what the proper syntax for the command is supposed to be
[01:47] <cliff> ?
[01:53] <sere> stoopkid: did you encrypt from install or after?
[01:54] <stoopkid> sere: from install
[01:55] <stoopkid> forgot i did it until i had to go into recovery mode for something and saw everything "missing" from my home directory
[01:55] <mead> welp I went from xubuntu 16.04.2 to 16.04.3 and the live image won't even boot
[01:56] <sere> stoopkid: ahh ok.. do you think if you change installs/OS's it will still mount
[01:56] <stoopkid> no idea heh
[01:58] <sere> stoopkid: ah ok hehe.. ive been wondering, i think im going to try with this new portable minimal im working on. i guesss we will find it
[02:07] <stoopkid> well, i can `umount` it and then `ecryptfs-mount-prviate` again and the files i wrote are still there (i guess expectedly)
[02:11] <stoopkid> but ok, so ecryptfs-mount-private sticks some things into the keyring so if i just do `umount` i have to clear the keyring
[02:11] <stoopkid> manually i mean
[02:12] <stoopkid> hrm, i'd like a better understanding of what's going on there. let's say i don't clear the keyring, i should still be able to decrypt & mount this directory as long as that key is still in there?
[02:44] <xDeathCon> list
[02:45] <xDeathCon> this is my first time joining an irc lol
[02:45] <xDeathCon> i suppose you are able to see my messages?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> topic is xubuntu support.  your question is ...?
[02:45] <xDeathCon> i dont have one testing
[02:45] <xDeathCon> im on a dos pc
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !test | xDeathCon
[02:46] <xDeathCon> idk i saw this in a video of the client im using and i dont know any others
[02:46] <xDeathCon> is there a certain place i should go instead?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> for chit chat?
[02:46] <xDeathCon> sure
[02:46] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:47] <xDeathCon> ok idk
[02:47] <xDeathCon> new to this
[02:47] <cfhowlett> no worries
[02:47] <xDeathCon> its also quite strange doing this from a pc running ms-dos 6.22
[02:48] <xDeathCon> is there a command to view all the channels?
[02:48] <cfhowlett> yep.  depends on the irc client you are using
[02:48] <xDeathCon> well... not sure. this is ircjr
[02:49] <cfhowlett> best to see their support options --- possibly by typing "help"
[02:49] <xDeathCon> help
[02:49] <xDeathCon> well
[02:49] <xDeathCon> i guess /help
[02:49] <xDeathCon> but it didnt tell me much at all
[02:50] <xDeathCon> ah... its alt commands
[02:53] <xDeathCon> well ill be... i dont think it has a channel list
[03:22] <Odyssey> Hi. I just restarted my computer and Ubuntu 17.10 seems to be stuck in gnome-classic. I have run env | grep -i DESKTOP_SESSION and DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome-classic. How can I change it back to regular Ubuntu gnome?
[03:24] <MickeyMcMcMc> HI UBUNTU
[03:24] <ninersallday> join #49ers
[03:25] <MickeyMcMcMc> 9ers blow
[03:25] <Kon-> I would have thought you were a Nicks fan, considering you just joined with six different ones
[03:25] <Kon-> And you're talking to yourself
[03:25] <ninersallday> dont hate
[03:26] <Kon-> 2 more
[03:26] <Kon-> And another
[03:26] <Kon-> Just stop
[03:26] <PatriotsDidNothi> No
[03:34] <Odyssey> Is anyone able to help me? Ubuntu 17.10 seems to be stuck in gnome-classic. I have run env | grep -i DESKTOP_SESSION and DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome-classic. How can I change it back to regular Ubuntu gnome?
[03:36] <segersjerry> Odyssey, when you are at ther login screen, there is a gear icon below your password on the right side, click there and select what you want.
[03:36] <kenrin> Did you try just clicking on the litte button that lets you change the DE before you sign in ?
[03:36] <kenrin> I'm not sure how to do it via CLI since that is the easier way
[03:44] <Odyssey> I thought there was too but I can't see it. I will try again
[03:46] <C4rB0n> how do I track down the cause of a System Program Problem that keeps popping up.
[03:46] <C4rB0n> ?
[03:47] <C4rB0n> I found the crash files in /var/crash
[03:47] <C4rB0n> Not sure what to do with them.
[03:50] <Roden> I keep getting the error message: "the repository does not have a release file"
[03:51] <OdysseyRS> Hi guys I'm back. After restarting the gear was there and it gave me the option for gnome-classic and Ubuntu on Xorg. How am I able to change the default from gnome-classic to Ubuntu?
[03:51] <Roden> W:The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/colingille/freshlight/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file., W:Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use., W:See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details., E:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/colingille/freshlight/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found, E:Some index files failed to
[03:51] <Roden> download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[03:51] <cfhowlett> OdysseyRS, it will reboot to the last selection by default
[03:52] <neildugan> Hi I am having trouble with DNS .... the /etc/resolv.conf has the "nameserver 127.0.0.53" ... but according to netstat there are no programs listening on 127.0.0.53 ... I have setup my WiFi connection with a DNS server of 10.8.0.253 .... a "dig server.home" returns nothing ... a "dig server.home @10.8.0.253" returns the correct result ... does anyone have ideas on what can be wrong?
[03:52] <OdysseyRS> So how do I boot to Ubuntu using Wayland instead of Xorg?
[03:53] <kenrin> What is in your list OdysseyRS
[03:55] <OdysseyRS> 1 sec
[03:55] <OdysseyRS> gnome-classic.desktop  ubuntu.desktop  ubuntu-xorg.desktop. That's in usr/share/xsessions
[03:56] <OdysseyRS> is there a config file I can change gnome-classic to ubuntu?
[03:56] <kenrin> I'd assume the middle one would be wayland
[03:57] <OdysseyRS> kenrin: I think so. In the drop down gear at login I only have the choice of gnome-classic and ubuntu on xorg. I just need to change what appears in that list
[03:58] <sere> how can i use cut or grip to get the last line of an output
[04:00] <kenrin> Are you using nvidia or something?  they disable wayland
[04:01] <OdysseyRS> I am that could be it. But it has been fine up until an hour ago. Should I swap back to the nouveau driver or however its spelt? Or just stick with Xorg?
[04:01] <OdysseyRS> sere: try <grep command> | tail -1
[04:03] <kenrin> Whatever you want to do,  I use xorg just because synergy and a lot of other programs refuse to work in wayland
[04:03] <sere> OdysseyRS: thank you
[04:04] <OdysseyRS> kenrin: Thanks for your help. I just don't know the pros and cons of xorg vs wayland. I'll just stick with Xorg for now.
[04:06] <stoopkid> so i'm trying to install a package onto an offline computer, is there any way to download all the dependencies on an online computer and then transfer these packages to my offline computer manually?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | stoopkid
[04:07] <stoopkid> lotuspsychje: checking that out, thanks
[04:14] <sere> how can i get the status of this command  minidlnad -f /home/$USER/.minidlna/minidlna.conf -P /home/$USER/.minidlna/minidlna.pid
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> stoopkid: apt can also download .debs if you like
[04:21] <segersjerry> sere, do you want "echo $?"
[04:30] <mead> is there a ubuntu fork for legacy machines?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> mead: explain that a bit please?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> mead: we only support vanilla ubuntu and all its flavors here
[04:34] <sere> segersjerry: not sure, im trying to get the status of that pid as if i would run service minidlna status
[04:35] <segersjerry> sere, oh, probably not then, $? is the (numerical) result of the most recent process for that terminal.
[04:38] <sere> segersjerry: im trying to tail the output of the servers pid through conky otherwise that might work
[04:48] <ulysses> How are things everyone?
[05:05] <kj4> hello all
[05:08] <mead> lotuspsychje:  I've got an old nettop (Atom 330 dual core cpu, 4ggis of DDR2, and  nvidia ION graphics) and I've had issues with xubuntu booting after install (live booted just fine)
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> mead: have you tested a lubuntu?
[05:13] <kyanardag_> I upgraded kernel to 4.15.4-041504-generic with ubuntu kernel update utility (ukuu), I rebooted, as expected I had problem with virtualbox, when I ran "sudo apt install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r) virtualbox-dkms dkms" I got "ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.15.4-041504-generic is not supported" error msg, any workarounds?
[05:13] <Ben64> kyanardag_: use the normal ubuntu kernel
[05:15] <kyanardag_> Ben64, there's no way to run dkms for non-main ubuntu kernels?
[05:15] <Ben64> you shouldn't even be running those kernels without a really good reason
[05:15] <nacc> kyanardag_: the drivers will almost certainly not compile
[05:16] <kyanardag_> Ben64, nacc thanks.. I thought latest kernel would be better to run, but sounds like running the main ubuntu kernel is the way to go..
[05:17] <nacc> kyanardag_: that is definitely not the intention
[05:18] <kyanardag_> nacc, I see, when I read "latest" I thought like "latest version", more secure, more performant, etc.
[05:18] <mead> lotuspsychje: I tried it as a live boot, but had issues with networking.  Think I could get help trouble shooting it here?  #lubuntu isn't very active.
[05:19] <nacc> kyanardag_: ukuu i think just uses the mainline ppa, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[05:19] <nacc> kyanardag_: they are for debugging issues, mostly
[05:19] <Ben64> if you're on LTS you can install the HWE kernel, which gets you the latest ubuntu kernel every 6 months. Otherwise the normal ubuntu kernel receives normal security updates and all that good stuff
[05:20] <Roden> In ubuntu mate, what's the default file explorer?  Is that what does the save-as dialogues?
[05:20] <Roden> I noticed that the initial focus is on the name, and there's no alt-key to focus the central pane, and some other issues....
[05:20] <Roden> "Places" is pretty limited...
[05:20] <kyanardag_> nacc, Ben64 thanks, you saved me from unnecessary hunt for an unneeded solution..
[05:20] <Ben64> kyanardag_: no problem
[05:20] <Roden> alt-p doesn't work to focus the places region
[05:20] <nacc> kyanardag_: yw
[05:21] <Roden> i thought maybe i could find a way to easily customize or improve it?
[05:22] <akik> Roden: caja
[05:23] <Roden> thank you akik
[05:25] <align_waivers> hey there I'm using ubuntu 16 LTS and its not detecting my usb midi device in lsusb or on /dev with grep.. any ideas? i know the cable and device works, have tried on other computers and linux before...
[05:28] <align_waivers> p.s. its a m-audio trigger finger if that means anything
[05:31] <align_waivers> any other way besides lsusb and grep to determine if a generic usb device is detecte?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in your device
[05:31] <Ben64> dmesg
[05:33] <align_waivers> thanks lotuspsychje thats giving me some info... error -32
[05:33] <align_waivers> says device not accepting address
[05:33] <akik> align_waivers: run this before connecting the device: sudo udevadm monitor --udev --subsystem-match=usb --property
[05:34] <align_waivers> and Ben64 appreciate it. same msg
[05:34] <align_waivers> akik: k ill try that
[05:36] <align_waivers> akik:  i plugged in while that process was running, should i expect output
[05:36] <akik> align_waivers: yes, lots
[05:36] <align_waivers> not seeing anything
[05:37] <align_waivers> says monitor will print events for :  UDEV, ...
[05:37] <akik> align_waivers: what is the device?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: hastebin it to us
[05:37] <align_waivers> m-audio trigger finger. generic usb midi interface has worked before
[05:39] <align_waivers> lotuspsychje: , akik https://pastebin.com/FZn0F38s
[05:39] <align_waivers> fyi though I have not tried it on this computer previously. But on ubuntu 14 and on others it has worked
[05:40] <Ben64> try other ports
[05:42] <akik> align_waivers: you can also test with 14.04 live session if it's working
[05:42] <align_waivers> yeah didnt have any luck with that
[05:43] <align_waivers> like boot from a usb to see if this computer can run it with 14.04?
[05:43] <akik> align_waivers: yes
[05:44] <akik> align_waivers: has it ever worked with your current computer?
[05:44] <align_waivers> no
[05:44] <align_waivers> lenovo x220
[05:45] <align_waivers> brb ill try to find a 14 live drive
[05:52] <align_waivers> akik:  lotuspsychje no luck I dont have a drive right now. is comparing to how ubuntu 14 handles the device the only next step I can take?
[05:52] <akik> align_waivers: you could also test with another computer
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: or test other kernels as test
[05:58] <align_waivers> just tried it on another computer running the same ubuntu (kde neon)... shows up perfectly in lsusb
[05:58] <align_waivers> and lotuspsychje I tried low latency kernal and geneic
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: same ubuntu version/kernel on both machines?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial | align_waivers
[05:59] <align_waivers> ubottu: im not sure what you mean by that
[06:00] <align_waivers> lol
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: do you have same kernel on xenial?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> align_waivers: your system up to date to latest?
[06:02] <align_waivers> lotuspsychje: not exactly the same. kernal 4.13 (current) vs 4.10 (compared) and both ubuntu 16
[06:02] <align_waivers> but the other has not been updated definitely
[06:02] <align_waivers> I'm up to date with the current
[06:09] <align_waivers> well akik and lotuspsychje I think I'm gonna have to work around it, thanks much for your helps anyway
[06:10] <align_waivers> I'll just have to waste 2 usb ports and a midi interface until ubuntu updates automagically fix it lol
[06:44] <Lope> I've got a freshly installed ubuntu. I can't apt-get update because it cannot lock http://dronebl.org/lookup?ip=169.1.146.92
[06:45] <Lope> It's probably due to some gui thing. How can I kill it?
[06:45] <EriC^^> Lope: the link isnt working
[06:46] <Lope> Oh damn, sorry my clipboard didn't paste what I expected
[06:46] <Lope> it cannot lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[06:47] <EriC^^> Lope: is something else running? try ps aux | grep -Ei "dpkg|unattended"
[06:47] <Lope> nothing
[06:47] <EriC^^> try removing the lock file
[06:48] <Lope> That worked
[06:48] <Lope> But seems wrong to do.
[06:48] <Lope> I tried `service aptd restart` but it wasn't found
[06:51] <EriC^^> yeah no apt service
[06:51] <EriC^^> if nothing is using the file it's safe to remove
[06:51] <Lope> aptd was using the file
[06:51] <Lope> but pkill aptd didn't work.
[06:52] <EriC^^> ah
[06:53] <Lope> I've got a large ods calc spreadsheet. On some versions of libreoffice calc it runs well. On other versions calc chokes and runs super slowly. The last time calc got super slow I switched to the libreoffice PPA. But now it seems libreoffice is not recommending the PPA on their website anymore. The version of libreoffice calc that I have at the moment is 6.0.1.1. Any ideas?
[06:55] <ayee> I'm screwing around with ubuntu18 to play with netplan. I added an interface, and when I reboot the network startup process just hangs with a timer that keeps ticking up. but when I do netplay apply before reboot, everything works, I can ssh in, etc
[06:55] <ayee> I'm confused about why it works before reboot, but not after.
[06:56] <Lope> Oh I see the PPA is briefly mentioned (though no longer *recommended* (but not advised against)) on libreoffice's site. It's here https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa )
[06:56] <ayee> This is the only file in /etc/netplan/: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5cf3bac9168f19f9a0c9b8123aa6929a
[06:56] <Lope> ayee: I've never heard of ubuntu 18. Isn't ubuntu 16 the latest LTS?
[06:57] <kille> 18.04 has had some mention on the webs lately guys
[06:57] <kille> but it is obviously not out yet
[06:57] <kille> :)
[06:58] <ayee> I'm running the daily build of the pre-release
[06:58] <ayee> I just installed it on virtualbox as a test
[06:59] <kille> ahhhh
[06:59] <kille> thats cool
[06:59] <kille> stability?
[06:59] <EriC^^> ayee: for more info on 18.04 /join #ubuntu+1
[06:59] <ayee> *shrugs* about stability. don't run it in production. I'm just playing around though.
[06:59] <ayee> EriC^^: thanks!
[07:00] <EriC^^> np
[07:00] <kille> ayee: yeah, thought as much, features though? anything new?
[07:00] <ayee> I think they're going to freeze it soon, and typically after freezes things get pretty stable
[07:00] <ayee> not sure, I'm just using the server install. so the gnu tools all look the same to me!
[07:01] <ayee> but netplan is new! I'm used to /etc/network/interfaces, but this is all different. a yaml file now
[07:01] <kille> ayee: staying on 16.04 lts myself, have learned my lesson with new interim releases.
[07:02] <kille> ayee: that sounds good, is it easier to use at least? interfaces was pretty powerful, don't think they'd throw it away 100%, is it stil present too at least?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> kille: stick to ubuntu support please
[07:02] <ayee> kille: here is an example file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5cf3bac9168f19f9a0c9b8123aa6929a
[07:02] <kille> lotuspsychje: sorry dude, didn' realize this was only for support, will move over to another channel. :)
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> kille: #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <kille> lotuspsychje: thanks dude
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> np
[07:03] <kille> .clear
[07:10] <Frank_> Someone suggested that maybe later...now....someone might have an idea.  16.04 - when run from a USB stick (try it) no trouble, but when installed on HD the speakers don't work, but the headphones do.
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: did you make that bug report?
[07:10] <Frank_> Odd thing is if I right click above the speaker icon, the speakers work, but only as long as I hold down the right mouse button.
[07:10] <Frank_> No, I just returned home from work.
[07:10] <Frank_> Thought maybe, as you suggested, someone would have an idea
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: sure thing, but meanwhile you could add the bug aswell
[07:11] <Frank_> right
[07:33] <Frank_> bug is reported
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: can you share please, ill have a look
[07:33] <Frank_> it sure is strange that right clicking in one spot makes the speakers work.
[07:33] <Frank_> no idea how to share the bug
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: its ok to paste the url here
[07:34] <Frank_> no idea how
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: you can also write bug #your-number-here
[07:35] <EriC^^> Frank_: maybe opening some settings canmake them work too
[07:35] <Frank_> I tried eric
[07:35] <EriC^^> Frank_: what does the right click menu show
[07:35] <Frank_> I opened the mixer from the console...set the speaker to max...nothing
[07:35] <Frank_> nothing
[07:35] <Frank_> I just right click right above the speaker icon, then sometimes sound works
[07:35] <Frank_> when I release the button, sound goes away
[07:36] <EriC^^> which de
[07:36] <Frank_> de?
[07:36] <EriC^^> desktop environment
[07:36] <EriC^^> unity lubuntu etc
[07:36] <Frank_> I don't know what that means
[07:36] <Frank_> I have ubuntu 16.04.3.  No idea what a desktop environment is
[07:37] <EriC^^> aha it's unity then
[07:37] <Frank_> problem happened on 15.04 and 17.10 too
[07:37] <Guest68481> +R GordonGordon
[07:37] <EriC^^> Frank_: did you try settings > sound?
[07:37] <Frank_> the link is +source/alsa-driver/+bug/1750977
[07:38] <Frank_> yes
[07:38] <Guest68481> GordonGordon+R
[07:38] <Frank_> and I tried the mixer from console
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> bug #1750977 EriC^^
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> lets have a look
[07:38] <EriC^^> Frank_: what happens if you click on the output
[07:38] <Guest68481> GordonGordon +R
[07:38] <EriC^^> Frank_: even though it's already clicked
[07:38] <Frank_> where?  in sound settings?
[07:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:38] <Frank_> there is only one shown:  headphones
[07:38] <EriC^^> oh
[07:39] <EriC^^> Frank_: did you try pavucontrol ? it's a good program
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: your bug report is good, but i would change usb into Liveusb, so they know its working there
[07:40] <Frank_> I don't know what you mean change it
[07:41] <Guest68481> goodmorning
[07:41] <Frank_> I don't see where to put liveusb
[07:42] <Frank_> I don't know what pavucontrol is
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: first line you write is: when i put usb no problem
[07:42] <Frank_> this is like talking in code
[07:42] <Frank_> it says "when I run from USB stick"
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: yes, change that to when i boot from a liveusb
[07:43] <Frank_> ok I changed it
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Frank_: tnx
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !info pavucontrol | Frank_ suggested by EriC^^
[07:44] <Frank_> A program to predict trends and buy times for crypto exchanges, that I can write and understand.  This ubuntu language - it's like a foreign code.
[07:45] <Frank_> how do I get it?
[07:45] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[07:46] <EriC^^> Frank_: type "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[07:46] <Frank_> it is installed
[07:46] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[07:46] <EriC^^> it uploads your error log
[07:46] <EriC^^> Frank_: type "pavucontrol" in a terminal and fiddle with it
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: the one from his bug: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/358000404/CurrentDmesg.txt
[07:47] <EriC^^> try output devices > port
[07:47] <Frank_> the program mc is currently not installed
[07:47] <EriC^^> Frank_: nc
[07:47] <EriC^^> (N)
[07:47] <Frank_> pel6
[07:48] <EriC^^> you're trying to output normal speakers, not HD right?
[07:49] <Frank_> just the laptop speakers
[07:50] <EriC^^> Frank_: try lspci -k | grep -iA4 audio
[07:50] <EriC^^> Frank_: try lspci -k | grep -iA4 audio | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:52] <Frank_> it says "no such directory"
[07:52] <Frank_> is that l or 1 at the start?
[07:53] <Frank_> el or one
[07:53] <EriC^^> Frank_: L
[07:53] <EriC^^> Frank_: everything looks setup in dmesg, i have similar output to yours
[07:53] <EriC^^> snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC1D0: autoconfig for ALC3241: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[07:54] <Frank_> hjjj
[07:54] <Frank_> you want me to type all that?
[07:56] <EriC^^> no
[07:56] <EriC^^> that's just my output
[07:56] <EriC^^> Frank_: try cat /dev/urandom | aplay
[07:56] <EriC^^> quickly followed by ctrl+c
[07:56] <EriC^^> btw loud noise alert
[07:57] <Frank_> no sound
[07:57] <EriC^^> Frank_: try aplay -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:58] <Frank_> k2bt
[08:00] <EriC^^> hmm interesting 1 ec
[08:00] <EriC^^> sec
[08:03] <sere> how can i get the mem and cpu usage of a single command
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> sere: htop
[08:07] <sere> lotuspsychje: ok i will install ty
[08:07] <EriC^^> Frank_: i think maybe it's using the first one as default in aplay and the second one isn't being used
[08:07] <EriC^^> trying to figure out how to test that
[08:07] <Frank_> ok
[08:08] <EriC^^> Frank_: try aplay -L | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:10] <EriC^^> Frank_: try "alsamixer" in the terminal then press F6
[08:10] <EriC^^> and choose the non-HD one
[08:10] <Frank_> which one?
[08:10] <Frank_> you wrote two different things
[08:10] <EriC^^> Frank_: well, run aplay -L we can use it
[08:10] <EriC^^> Frank_: try aplay -L | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:11] <EriC^^> also try the alsamixer command > F6 and choose PCH [HDA Intel PCH]
[08:11] <Frank_> bh9l
[08:12] <Frank_> f6 just activates mute
[08:12] <EriC^^> Frank_: try fn+f6
[08:12] <Frank_> ok
[08:12] <cart_man> How can I ReInstall my LIGHTDM because as of this morning my desktop is just a blue screen : /
[08:13] <Frank_> done
[08:13] <EriC^^> Frank_: try playing some music
[08:13] <Frank_> it shows speaker at 0
[08:13] <Frank_> No sound
[08:13] <EriC^^> hmm
[08:13] <Frank_> turned speaker up to 100, no sound
[08:14] <EriC^^> try cat /dev/urandom | aplay -D plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: try to boot into a previous kernel first?
[08:15] <Frank_> it says playing raw data ....  but there's no sound
[08:15] <cart_man> lotuspsychje huh?
[08:16] <Frank_> now I'm deaf because I plugged in the headphones
[08:16] <EriC^^> Frank_: try sudo apt-get install paman
[08:16] <EriC^^> lol
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: how do you know lightdm is broken?
[08:16] <cart_man> Well on startup my desktop is just  ablue screen
[08:17] <cart_man> Soo not sure which part I should reinstall
[08:17] <cart_man> lotuspsychje ^^
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> cart_man: ok, so try booting a previous kernel from grub as test
[08:17] <Frank_> it's done installing
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !recoverymode | cart_man or try this
[08:17] <EriC^^> Frank_: type paman in a terminal
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | cart_man
[08:18] <Frank_> ok
[08:18] <Frank_> now what
[08:18] <EriC^^> Frank_: does it look connected and stuff
[08:18] <Frank_> yes
[08:19] <EriC^^> Frank_: go to devices and see what's under Sinks
[08:19] <Frank_> hdmi stereo and hdmi analog
[08:20] <Frank_> hdmi stereo and analog-stereo
[08:20] <EriC^^> Frank_: ok try Sample Cache
[08:21] <EriC^^> Frank_: at the bottom choose an output and press on the play button
[08:21] <Frank_> analog stereo plays over the headphones only
[08:21] <cart_man> lotuspsychje Ahm ok soo I spam SHIFT on startup but I never get to the GRUB screen
[08:21] <Frank_> hdmi stereo plays nothing
[08:22] <almoullim> Hello
[08:23] <almoullim> I have an electron process runing that
[08:23] <almoullim> that i'm trying to kill but pkill is not working
[08:23] <sailorsara> hej i need help installing ubuntu. i need to figure out if it will work with my system
[08:23] <almoullim> neither does system moniter
[08:23] <EriC^^> sailorsara: try a live usb
[08:24] <ducasse> sailorsara: just boot the installer, see if it runs in live mode and your hardware works
[08:24] <IamTrying> In cloud i have Ubuntu 16.04.3. I need to run GUI application and capture dummy mic, speaker to let the application work. How do i do that Ubuntu is in cloud (so no monitor, display connected).
[08:27] <EriC^^> Frank_: dumb question, you tried without the headphones installed just now, right?
[08:27] <Frank_> right
[08:27] <Frank_> Neither one played with headphones disconnected
[08:27] <sailorsara> hej i need help installing ubuntu. i need to figure out if it will work with my system https://pastebin.com/cXh71cKi here is my lspci  output and the output from my  fdisk. i am currently using a live usb drive. its a sony vaio  model number vpcs11x9e from 2007  it has 5637 as the first value when i use free -m
[08:28] <sailorsara> it is cruitial to have windows
[08:29] <ledeni> EriC^^, can Frank_  use 'pavucontrol'
[08:29] <EriC^^> Frank_: try sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui
[08:29] <EriC^^> i think this might be promising
[08:29] <EriC^^> ledeni: he tried already
[08:31] <Frank_> installed
[08:33] <EriC^^> try running it and forcing the output from the speakers
[08:33] <EriC^^> or any options that help
[08:35] <Frank_> how do I run it?
[08:35] <ledeni> EriC^^, 'pavucontrol' in terminal
[08:35] <ledeni> EriC^^, ops
[08:36] <Frank_> what am I running?
[08:36] <ledeni> Frank_,'pavucontrol' in terminal
[08:36] <Frank_> I already did that earlier
[08:39] <ledeni> Frank_,what show configuration -- built in Audio
[08:39] <Frank_> huh?
[08:40] <EriC^^> Frank_: run 'alsa-tools-gui'
[08:41] <Frank_> it says command not found
[08:42] <sailorsara> hej i need help installing ubuntu. i need to figure out if it will work with my system https://pastebin.com/cXh71cKi here is my lspci  output and the output from my  fdisk. i am currently using a live usb drive. its a sony vaio  model number vpcs11x9e from 2007  it has 5637 as the first value when i use free -m i NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO WINDOWS. my bank login does not support linu and the govrnment login system requires it too.
[08:42] <Frank_> run: command not found
[08:45] <Frank_> there is no run command
[08:45] <Frank_> when I try alsa-tools-gui by itself, also no such command
[08:51] <Frank_> I will run this if someone tells me how to run it
[08:52] <ledeni> Frank_,did you install alsa-tools-gui like ' sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui'
[08:53] <sailorsara> i gues girls dont get help round here
[08:53] <sailorsara> urgh
[08:53] <Frank_> yes
[08:54] <Frank_> but when I did run...it said no such command as run
[08:54] <sailorsara> kcuf
[08:54] <bazhang> sailorsara, patience
[08:54] <sailorsara> bazhang: ive waited half an hour
[08:55] <bazhang> sailorsara, people help when and if they are able
[08:56] <ducasse> sailorsara: you were given a suggestion
[08:57] <akik> sailorsara: if you're planning on a dual boot system, make sure you've made backups before doing it. it involves resizing your partitions if you don't have free space
[08:58] <EriC^^> Frank_: try dpkg -L alsa-tools-gui | grep bin | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:58] <jink> "OMG, I've waited half an hour for my free support that no one here is required to give...!  Why am I even paying for...  Oh, wait."
[08:58] <akik> sailorsara: i don't see the fdisk output there
[08:58] <bazhang> jink, lets not do that here please
[08:58] <jink> I just did. :P
[08:58] <bazhang> jink, no further
[08:58] <jink> I wouldn't.
[09:00] <Frank_> y845
[09:00] <Frank_> t845
[09:00] <Frank_> not y
[09:01] <CyberZaZa> hello
[09:05] <akik> sailorsara: ?
[09:14] <Emmarof> how can i upgrade my ubuntu from 17.10 to 17.04
[09:14]  * rvgate wonders how that is an upgraade
[09:15] <bazhang> Emmarof, did you mean .04 to .10
[09:15] <Emmarof> no, the other way round
[09:15] <Emmarof> just realised what i want is a downgrade
[09:15] <bazhang> no downgrades possible Emmarof
[09:15] <Emmarof> oh no!
[09:16] <bazhang> Emmarof, its end of life, so no reason to
[09:16] <Emmarof> i want to install postgres
[09:16] <Emmarof> https://gist.github.com/alistairewj/8aaea0261fe4015333ddf8bed5fe91f8
[09:16] <Emmarof> using this tut
[09:17] <Emmarof> can't see option for .10
[09:17] <bazhang> Emmarof, that is possible with current releases
[09:17] <Emmarof> you mean the installation?
[09:18] <Emmarof> by current releases, you mean? Is .10 not the latest?
[09:18] <bazhang> Emmarof, it is
[09:21] <Emmarof> so how do i install postgress here?
[09:21] <Emmarof> on .10
[09:21] <bazhang> Emmarof, check in the package manager, it's there
[09:22] <bazhang> Emmarof, alternately, open a terminal and type apt-cache search postgres
[09:23] <bazhang> Emmarof, the name will not simply be 'postgres'
[09:24] <Emmarof> i see it there
[09:24] <bazhang> sudo apt install packagename Emmarof
[09:34] <Emmarof> ok
[09:34] <Emmarof> bazhang: thaanks
[09:34] <bazhang> welcome
[09:49] <Lope> looks like Ubuntu 18.04 will be good for a tablet?
[09:51] <bazhang> Lope, discussion of that is in #ubuntu+1 until release
[09:54] <Lope> Ok bazhang, thanks. well this is a sneak peak why I say it looks like it'll be nice for tablet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UdcFS2GbrA I'm going to install it on my MS surface pro 2.  Don't worry I won't discuss here.
[10:24] <draget> Is there a (somewhat) official PPA for anything > QT 5.6 for Ubuntu 16.04?
[10:25] <Ben64> PPA is unofficial
[10:25] <draget> Hmm, aren't some PPAs maintained by trustworthy ubuntu members?
[10:26] <Ben64> how can you trust them
[10:26] <draget> I saw that qt is also not part of the backports. So the only official way would be the manuall installer from QT I guess.
[10:26] <Ben64> or just wait a couple months for 18.04 then upgrade to that
[10:26] <draget> I found https://launchpad.net/~beineri - seems like a reliable member that has QT5 packages
[10:27] <draget> My buildchain is kind of big… and running on 16.04 now. I think using the manuall isntall will be less work than an update to 18.04
[10:27] <Ben64> up to you, it's not supported here at all
[10:29] <tesuji> Hi, I am on a public wifi, which regularily loses the connection. After a reconnect I can't do anything online anymore: 'tracepath google.com' timesout on every hop after localhost. Since this is an open wifi, I have the openvpn service running, and only connect to it when I need it. When I 'service openvpn stop' the network responds normally again. Can anybody point me in the right direction to keep
[10:29] <tesuji> openvpn running figuring out why I get network problems?
[10:31] <TJ-> tesuji: is openvpn configured to operate using TCP, or UDP? It sounds like when the transport loses connectivity the openvpn link dies but doesn't realise so keeps on trying to send to the original end-point
[10:31] <TJ-> tesuji: is openvpn configured to operate using TCP, or UDP? It sounds like when the transport loses connectivity the openvpn link dies but doesn't realise so keeps on trying to send to the original end-point
[10:34] <tesuji> TJ-: Just checked, its UDP.
[10:36] <tesuji> TJ-: but then again I wasn't vpn-connected during the wifi-disconnect. Can I just change it to TCP? (I am guessing your answer is "udp packets are allowed to get lost, tcp arent?)
[10:36] <gordon__> good morning
[10:36] <TJ-> tesuji: how is openvpn controlled? is it via Network-Manager? Because with NM, it allows you to configure the wifi connection to bring up another link (the VPN) when it connects, and will disconnect that VPN if the underlying link dies
[10:37] <TJ-> tesuji: No, my answer would be, UDP is /much/ more reliable for openvpn connections, and can prevent denial-of-service attacks against the server's listening port
[10:37] <tesuji> TJ-: OK. No I use a script to initiate the connection on a console
[10:38] <tesuji> TJ-: There is a tun adapter though, which I guess comes from OpenVPN, which not the default route
[10:38] <tesuji> let me google real quick
[10:39] <TJ-> tesuji: I'd recommend integrating your script into the system's native network manager. If you rely on ifupdown, then uses some of the /etc/network/if-{up,down}.d/ hooks to control the VPN, otherwise integrate into NM
[10:39] <tesuji> TJ-: thanks for the hint. I need to check the script, I didn't write it myself.
[10:40] <TJ-> tesuji: yeah, I guess as much :) I use the NM method quite successfully for your scenario
[10:40] <tesuji> TJ-: it just runs 'openvpn /etc/openvpn/myvpn.conf'
[10:41] <tesuji> TJ-: wait, wouldnt that mean there are 2 openvpns running then? that sounds like a problem...
[10:41] <tesuji> TJ-: OK great thanks. Many new leads!
[10:42] <Lope> Why is there closed source stuff in the ubuntu app store? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFQGKsLKBlk&t=14m38s
[10:42] <Lope> This is worrying. How do I know what's open source or not open source in the ubuntu repos?
[10:44] <tesuji> Lope: there is multiverse, which has restricted/propietary/copyrighted stuff
[10:44] <tesuji> Lope: you can disable that repo
[10:45] <Lope> but isn't htop in the multiverse?
[10:45] <Lope> Oh, maybe htop is in universe...
[10:48] <DiecastMessiah> quick question.. would it be better to disable software updates program from auto checking and just do it myself in apt-get. every couple of days orr?? just wondering because i find it better using apt-get than using the ubuntu software program..
[10:52] <tesuji> DiecastMessiah: it tends to be a good idea to get at least security updates as quickly as possible. You CAN setup a cron job instead or something. Never underestimate human error ^^
[10:53] <DiecastMessiah> K well i can leave it open so it will tell me there updates.. but is it a better idea to than use apt-get to download them and just close the update program?
[10:54] <tesuji> DiecastMessiah: no. it does the same
[10:56] <DiecastMessiah> kk.. just wasn;t sure if it was like the ubuntu software program .. it does always seem to get everything that is needed
[10:56] <DiecastMessiah> but i leave updater alone and use it than .. thank you
[10:57] <Ben64> DiecastMessiah: just make sure to do 'apt full-upgrade'
[10:57] <DiecastMessiah> i though that command upgrades to the next ubuntu version
[10:58] <DiecastMessiah> i want to stay on 16.04
[10:58] <Ben64> DiecastMessiah: 'do-release-upgrade' brings you to a new version
[11:00] <Emmarof> I get this when tryna install postgres
[11:00] <Emmarof> https://pastebin.com/VyXhvLu7
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:10] <DiecastMessiah> Hails
[11:18] <Vic2> I have been having beaucoup issues, and realize that I most likely need to reinstall -- but I would like to take this as a learning exercise ... my issue now is that LibreOffice Calc will not open.  I click it and the banner appears along with the clock that something is happening, then after a few seconds - nothing.  I am using 14.04.5 LTS.  How would I begin to troubleshoot this?
[11:19] <gef3233> Vic2 try opening it from the terminal, then maybe you can get some output when it crashes
[11:20] <Vic2> gef3233: any clue what the program name is?  I have never opened it from terminal.
[11:22] <gef3233> Vic2 I think it is libreoffice --calc
[11:22] <gef3233> I cannot check right now
[11:23] <Vic2> gef3233: yes, I got over my laziness and checked the man page. :p
[11:24] <Vic2> gef3233:  no output in terminal ... no process running.
[11:28] <TJ-> Vic2: try this: "strace -f -o /tmp/libreoffice.log libreoffice --calc"
[11:29] <TJ-> Vic2: then you can show us the captured /tmp/libreoffice.log file via a pastebin ("pastebinit /tmp/libreoffice.log")
[11:46] <Vic2> @TJ - strace: Can't fopen '/tmp/libreoffice.log': Read-only file system
[11:53] <DiecastMessiah> thats seems odd tmp is normally allowed by user i think. but maybe try fopen with r option.
[11:55] <PRAVIN_> hey Iḿ trying to install linuxmint along side win 10. as soon as I reach installation type window I am unable to select storage space that I allocated for linuxmint install. Iḿ facing same problem with ubuntu as well. Here is the image of the window. https://imgur.com/a/RVZHX
[11:55] <geirha> sounds like / has been remounted in read-only mode
[11:55] <ducasse> !mint | PRAVIN_
[11:56] <PRAVIN_> ducasse | i am facing same problem in ubuntu as well
[11:57] <D94_1234> Hey.
[11:58] <TJ-> Vic2: aha! That means you've got a problem with the root file-system, possibly corrupted
[11:59] <D94_1234> ~_~
[12:00] <DiecastMessiah> Pravin not sure but i think to have to create a partation
[12:01] <DiecastMessiah> does that + at the bottom left allow you make it?
[12:02] <PRAVIN_> I am not able to select that +
[12:04] <DiecastMessiah> k well not sure than.. all i can say maybe try Gparted to make the unused space a new partation ..
[12:05] <DiecastMessiah> ext4 filesystem
[12:05] <iresf> anyone has exprience java programming on VScode  in ubuntu  ?
[12:06] <DiecastMessiah> have to download the image of gparted and there is free software to make usb bootable
[12:06] <DiecastMessiah> free software for windows
[12:06] <PRAVIN_> ok
[12:08] <DiecastMessiah> there maybe way without do that.. but i pretty new.. i guess try a second opinion on linuxmint
[12:09] <PRAVIN_> DiecastMessiah i am doing that
[12:15] <D94_1234> is mint much different to ubuntu apart from the DE?
[12:17] <DiecastMessiah> using it i think not. but supporting it is different
[12:17] <D94_1234> how so? i don't know which is best for me
[12:17] <DiecastMessiah> its a different disrto... it forked from ubuntu
[12:18] <iresf> The JDK_HOME environment variable does not point to a JDK.
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[12:24] <DiecastMessiah> darn spammers,, but what ya mean pos??
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[12:31] <chillfan> Just to point out to people here, devuan is not behind the spam.. this is someone doing it on their own
[12:31] <katnip> know that
[12:31] <KatolaZ> :(
[12:31] <KatolaZ> please report any users/ips that are spamming on behalf of Devuan
[12:31] <KatolaZ> we want them to stop
[12:32] <katnip> to whome
[12:32] <katnip> whom
[12:32] <KatolaZ> katnip: anybody on #devuan or #devuan-dev
[12:32] <Roden> If I find a bug in ubuntu-mate's power management, where should i report it?
[12:33] <popey> Roden: in launchpad under mate-power-manager
[12:33] <katnip> KatolaZ, no offense, but i dont want to sit in there just to report those things, sorry, im not a fan of that distro :)
[12:33] <Roden> popey, yes
[12:34] <KatolaZ> katnip: sorry mate
[12:34] <KatolaZ> :(
[12:34] <Roden> The brightness buttons go up and down on the brightness scale
[12:34] <KatolaZ> we would really like the asshole to stop
[12:34] <popey> Please ignore the spammers and move on to what we do here, support.
[12:34] <Roden> but "Set display brightness" remains at 80% at all times
[12:34] <Roden> and after a few minutes, the brightness jumps back up to 80%
[12:34] <popey> Roden: what version of ubutnu mate?
[12:34] <techsynt> hello guys I was configuring Putty through terminal. Does anyone know how to stop auto wrap in putty through terminal ?
[12:34] <katnip> KatolaZ, who is the founder?
[12:34] <meow14> d
[12:34] <popey> katnip: please take non-support discussion elsewhere
[12:35] <Roden> I think it jumps back up to 80% after sleep because I have a 1-minute sleep.
[12:35] <Roden> I'm on 16.04
[12:35] <Rabbitnightmare> why doesnt drag and drop work
[12:35] <meow14> popey, you are being offtopic too
[12:35] <popey> Roden: what make/model of laptop?
[12:35] <katnip> popep is there a offtopic channel, used to be
[12:35] <popey> katnip: yes #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:35] <techsynt> anyone
[12:35] <Rabbitnightmare> you guys basically rape gnome into this thing but dont even do it right
[12:35] <techsynt> help
[12:36] <Rabbitnightmare> just stop trying
[12:36] <Rabbitnightmare> nobody wants this
[12:37] <popey> techsynt: i don't think most people use putty on linux, so it's not a common question
[12:37] <techsynt> popey: Is here any channel where I can get the answer or helP ?
[12:38] <popey> techsynt: here, or askubuntu, but be patient, as I said, not many people use putty
[12:38] <techsynt> popey: I have deadline)
[12:39] <popey> techsynt: we're volunteers. If you want instant support, you probably need to pay someone.
[12:39] <DiecastMessiah> yeah plus atm it normally pretty slow around this time
[12:39] <popey> Yeah, those pesky americans haven't woken up yet :)
[12:40] <DiecastMessiah> but in another hour or so there are alot of people around
[12:42] <techsynt> popey: I rather will watch WTF parrot
[12:42] <techsynt> or lets say it's my reaction to ur answer )
[12:43] <krytarik> He isn't wrong..
[12:49] <zetheroo> I am looking for a command/script which can tell you when was the last time updates were installed - not just when was the last time 'apt upgrade' was executed.
[12:52] <DiecastMessiah> zetheroo: there are logs 'gedit /var/log/apt/term.log'
[12:52] <popey> zetheroo: you can look in /var/log/dpkg.log
[12:54] <DiecastMessiah> use popey that seems right.. mine maybe out of date
[12:59] <DiecastMessiah> actually both seem to work just tried
[13:02] <katnip> http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-outs-new-ubuntu-kernel-update-with-compiler-based-retpoline-mitigation-519909.shtml
[13:06] <techsynt> i have 2 eth in one PC, but when i'm trying to configure second eth it shows: did not find UUID
[13:16] <zetheroo> DiecastMessiah, popey, great - both of those seems to be what I am looking for. They don't alter with 'apt update' or 'apt upgrade'
[13:25] <DiecastMessiah> zetheroo: glad i could help
[13:25] <Industrial> Hi.
[13:26] <EriC^^> hello
[13:26] <Industrial> WHen I start my computer (16.04), before logging in I can not connect to a WIFI network
[13:26] <Industrial> Why is there an indicator there to choose the network
[13:26] <Industrial> if all it does is popup saying "insufficient privileges"
[13:26] <Industrial> ?
[13:27] <mst89> thats kind of funny :)
[13:27] <Industrial> 2) When I log out of Unity back into LightDM, when I log into Xmonad (window manager), there is no WIFI connection.
[13:27] <Industrial> There is no way to choose it in xmonad.
[13:27] <Industrial> So I need a WIFI connection first, and a login after that.
[13:28] <Industrial> Or just the wifi to stay at whatever I put it at inside Unity (or LightDM)
[13:28] <Roland> hi. does anybody know why libreoffice crashes on ubuntu 17.10?
[13:29] <Roland> the system is updated, and libreoffice calc crashes anytime i try to press save.
[13:29] <TJ-> Industrial: did you configure the network connection in Network manager as "All users may connect" and "automatically connect" ?
[13:30] <Industrial> Oh. You have to config that per network. I thought it would just take a configured network and just connect to one whenever possible when WIFI is ON :)
[13:30] <Industrial> like a phone :P
[13:31] <Industrial> alright then
[13:31] <Industrial> thanks
[13:32] <TJ-> zetheroo: there's a simpler way to determine last upgrade install: "ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/status"
[13:37] <ioria> Roland, try to start it from terminal
[13:38] <Roland> ioria, no luck, tells me "application error" doesnt offer to send bug report
[13:39] <DiecastMessiah> TJ-: thanks that awesome.. just was looking at that file.. didn't think it would have all the info/details on each package that installed.. writing that down for sure :)
[13:39] <ioria> Roland, libreoffice --calc
[13:39] <TJ-> DiecastMessiah: dpkg is responsible for all package installs
[13:40] <TJ-> DiecastMessiah: apt's job is to handle debian repositiories and fetch packages - it passed them to dpkg for installtion
[13:40] <TJ-> DiecastMessiah: additionally, apt ensures all dependencies are met
[13:40] <DiecastMessiah> oh i know just meant that i open the status file and it give alot of details on each package
[13:41] <Roland> ioria, libreoffice --calc // Warning: failed to read path from javaldx // Couldn't open /usr/share/kde4/config/kdebug.areas // Application Error
[13:41] <Vic2> @TJ- Anyway to determine if it is a root file-system issue and fix it? or would a reinstall be called for?
[13:42] <Roland> ioria, this is on ubuntu 17.10, LibreOffice 5.4.5.1 40m0(Build:1)
[13:42] <ioria> Roland, no idea,  let's try to disable java :  Tools -> Options -> Advanced
[13:43] <TJ-> Vic2: first confirm it /is/ a root-fs issue. "mount | grep '/ ' and check it shows "rw" not "ro" in the options - if it is ro it's Read Only so you probably need to reboot and let the file-system check do a repair
[13:43] <Roland> ioria, did that, doesnt change anything
[13:43] <purplepod> I'm unable to install the VLC snap. I get an error, with a bunch of snapcraft.io URL data I'm leaving out of the paste: error: cannot install "vlc": Get
[13:43] <purplepod>        net/http: request canceled (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
[13:43] <purplepod> is it just broken right now?
[13:44] <TJ-> Roland : try this: "strace -f -o /tmp/libreoffice.log libreoffice --calc" and then after it crashes we can look at the log file for clues
[13:44] <ioria> Roland, clean the cache
[13:44] <Vic2> @TJ-  compaq@HP-Compaq-8000:~$ mount | grep '/ '
[13:44] <Vic2> /dev/sda3 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[13:45] <ioria> Roland, ~/.config and in  ~/.cache
[13:45] <TJ-> Vic2: hmmm, OK, so not the root-fs
[13:46] <Crusher>  you may need to install the BOSS::Config module <-- WLS/Umbuntu.... what do I run?
[13:46] <Vic2> @TJ- when I went to install pastebinit I got a lot of errors ... sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/compaq/4: No such file or directory
[13:46] <Vic2> W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:46] <Vic2> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[13:46] <Vic2> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:46] <Crusher> perl module
[13:47] <TJ-> Vic2: ouch! do you have a separate /var/ file-system configured?
[13:47] <Vic2> @TJ- I have / on one partition and /home is on another ...
[13:47] <TJ-> Vic2: "mount | grep var" or "grep var /etc/fstab"
[13:48] <TJ-> Vic2: otherwise, it looks like parts of the file-system have been damaged or destroyed
[13:48] <TJ-> Vic2: When was the last time the PC was rebooted?
[13:49] <Vic2> @TJ- the last two commands returned nothing.  it was rebooted yesterday.
[13:50] <TJ-> Vic2: I'm not sure whether to suggest another reboot - if it's gone bad it might not return in a state you can easily recover from. Do you have an alternate PC to connect to IRC with if that happens?
[13:51] <Vic2> I can get one ready ... but not atm.  On another path ... would a complete reinstall potentially be helpful?
[13:51] <TJ-> Vic2: it depends... the disk could be failing.
[13:51] <TJ-> Vic2: check /var/log/kern.log in case there's indications of I/O errors with the disk(s)
[13:51] <Vic2> TJ yeah that was my next question ... any potential way to check?
[13:54] <Roland> TJ-: , ioria: looks like the problem is libreoffice-kde package, libreoffice-gtk works fine
[13:55] <ioria> Roland,  kde problem , then
[13:55] <Vic2> @TJ I did a tail of that log file but I have no idea what I am looking at ... other than when I plugged my phone in yesterday (it was not recognized as it usually is) I have no idea what that output is saying. :(
[13:56] <Vic2> @TJ how can I look at more than the last 20 lines easily?
[13:56] <TJ-> Vic2: "tail -n 20 /var/log/kern.log"
[13:56] <TJ-> Vic2: the fact /var/log/ exists is a better sign, after those other reports
[13:56] <Vic2> Oh, this ... Feb 22 07:42:56 HP-Compaq-8000 kernel: [149742.837529] EXT4-fs error (device sda3): ext4_search_dir:1291: inode #136579: block 533769: comm updatedb.mlocat: bad entry in directory: inode out of bounds - offset=500(500), inode=1073878428, rec_len=12, name_len=3
[13:59] <TJ-> Vic2: that doesn't sound good. The file system needs checking/repairing, and as it's the root FS that requires a reboot. Try "sudo touch /forcefsck" then reboot
[14:00] <deadrom> hi
[14:02] <deadrom> LibreOffice 6 on 16.04: /join #virtualbox
[14:03] <deadrom> line meeeerge! :D nvm that
[14:06] <deadrom> in 16.04 LTS how do I dd xorg options when running nvidia drivers so I don't mess with nvidia or system upgrades?
[14:07] <deadrom> I need "AllowIndirectGLXProtocol" in, but old tinke me feels hacking it into xorg.conf might not be the way in 2018?
[14:17] <Vic2> @TJ- Set up IRC on another machine but cannot get in this room ... due to nick-serv users only???? how long will that be in force?
[14:18] <ikonia> Vic2: freenode channels are currently being spammed by unregistered users
[14:18] <ikonia> Vic2: the registration requirement will be removed once people are confident the spamming has stopped
[14:19] <Vic2> So it could be minutes, hours, or even days ...
[14:19] <jink> imho, +r should be the default for all channels.
[14:21] <TJ-> Vic2: ioria I *think* if you change your nickname now you can stay in the channel and log-in with the other client and use the current registered nickname
[14:21] <TJ-> bhah! ^^ ikonia ^^
[14:23] <bodom> Hi there! What's the btrfs status in ubuntu LTS?
[14:25] <Vic2--> * #ubuntu :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services ---------- even though I am
[14:25] <Vic2--> -NickServ- You are now identified for Vic2.
[14:25] <Vic2--> sigh.
[14:25] <C_MF> Hello all. Im looking for some info regarding AMD drivers. What is the best place to find that sort of information? Thanks
[14:28] <leftyfb> Vic2--: you might try #freenode. This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[14:29] <Vic2--> sigh, have to get support to stay in a support channel ... smh
[14:29] <mjayk> C_MF, either google or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD I suppose
[14:30] <C_MF> Well my issue is that i installed drivers and now my web browser keeps crashing. LOl
[14:30] <leftyfb> Vic2--: Do you go to a Ford dealership when you need help with a toll booth?
[14:31] <leftyfb> Vic2--: There are support channels for specific topics. Your topic has to do with freenode services. Not ubuntu.
[14:32] <C_MF> You should be able to type /join #freenode I think
[14:33] <C_MF> This is literally my first time... lol
[14:38] <C_MF> Out of time! On to differential equations! Thanks again! :)
[14:39] <Industrial> Hi. My user has ID 1001.
[14:39] <Industrial> Can I change that to 1000 ?
[14:40] <deadrom> Industrial, well, you *can*, in theory, but why?
[14:42] <Industrial> Docker containers using the UUID 1000
[14:42] <Industrial> working for all my other team members
[14:43] <Industrial> The containers are creating files in host mounted volumes
[14:43] <Industrial> with the UUID 1000
[14:43] <Industrial> resulting in permission errors because mine is not 1000 but 1001
[14:43] <Industrial> So putting my user at 1000 is the best solution :-)
[14:44] <deadrom> Industrial, you would need to change the ID in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, and modify each and every file that belongs to that use to reflect the new id. I might be forgetting a thing or two. bottom line: I'd not do it without a full disk backup
[14:45] <deadrom> Industrial, sounds more like Docker should have asked the system if the ID is available and go for the next one that is, right..? not a Docker expert, but I'd rather adapt Docker there.
[14:45] <Vic2> @TJ- It came back up after reboot.  Seemingly with many less issues.  TY.
[14:46] <Industrial> deadrom: eh, I want to continue developing. having my own system be equal to all others is preferrable. WHy is my userid not 1000 to begin with? Isn't it always 1000 for the first created user?
[14:46] <deadrom> if new shoes don't fit I don't saw off my toes, I alter the shoes. persistent solution, les painful
[14:47] <deadrom> Industrial, cant answer that one really. here on my 16.04 actually I am uid 1000
[14:47] <Industrial> ok
[14:48] <DiecastMessiah> please remind me what # root user id is again..
[14:49] <Industrial> 0
[14:49] <DiecastMessiah> ty
[14:58] <fx250> I want to temporarily add like 15 seconds to linux system boot time so I can see if usplash works, but it boots too quickly on a test machine.  Is there a way I can configure Ubuntu to sleep for 15 seconds before X login appears?
[15:04] <AmericanBlend> fx250, grub timeout
[15:05] <Dawidek> guys how do I move / partition from one disk to another?
[15:05] <AmericanBlend> that's a simple question about a complex task
[15:06] <Dawidek> I have /dev/sdb1 - ext4 file system, mount point "/", flags "boot" and /dev/sdb2, filesystem extended consist of /dev/sdb5 for swap and /dev/sdb6 ext4 for /home
[15:06] <Dawidek> I want to move /dev/sdb1 boot partition to new disk
[15:06] <AmericanBlend> just create partitions, rsync the data, adjust configs, installk bootloader, done
[15:08] <Dawidek> k, so there is no simpler way like just moving partition from one disk to other using tool like gparted
[15:22] <fx250> AmericanBlend, Thanks.  I set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=120 (2 minutes) and I see black screen for 120 seconds (2 minutes), but then the usplash image does appear for a second before X starts.  I tried 20 seconds at first, same effect, but I wanted to try longer to better understand how the screen-to-black, where it comes from
[15:43] <z3bra> hello
[15:44] <z3bra> I'm currently installing ubuntu 16.04 on a machine, but the RAID card is not supported
[15:44] <z3bra> It looks like the HWE kernel would bring that support, but I'm not sure how to get the HWE kernel during the install process
[15:45] <z3bra> Il looks like the livecd is really barebone, so I don't have many options
[15:46] <z3bra> I tried using apt-install, but I can't reach internet because my network require the use of VLANs, and I could'nt configure it (looks like there is no support for VLANs on the livecd either)
[15:46] <z3bra> any hint?
[16:00] <nacc> z3bra: apt-install or `apt install` ?
[16:01] <nacc> z3bra: also, if you use the 16.04.3 live usb, the hwe kernel is an option presented at the first menu (iirc) and is installed by default
[16:02] <BSaboia> is it easy to run a live ubuntu on a mac?
[16:02] <BSaboia> I am downloading 16.04 LTS
[16:03] <BSaboia> I tried slax, but it did not work. the USB stick was not present on the boot list
[16:03] <Gargravarr> BSaboia: depends how old the Mac is. some only work properly when booted from CD
[16:03] <z3bra> nacc apt-install
[16:03] <Gargravarr> ran into issues booting my old MBP into Mint
[16:03] <z3bra> (apt or apt-get is not available at the command line)
[16:03] <nacc> z3bra: oh from the installer environment?
[16:04] <BSaboia> Gargravarr, this mac is not that old
[16:04] <BSaboia> 2 years, I'd say
[16:05] <Gargravarr> not tried on more modern hardware, so probably can't help you, sorry
[16:05] <mumixam> anyone know why ssh would be slow ONLY when using tty?
[16:06] <Gargravarr> anyway, hi all, wonder if someone can give me some pointers. i've got a fleet of Dell XPSen running Xenial that, on certain kernels, fail to boot
[16:07] <Gargravarr> boot screens do one of a number of things: 1. FDE password screen doesn't work at all 2. password accepted, but the Ubuntu booting animation freezes 3. screen is just black
[16:07] <mumixam> z3bra: before you start the install process select HWE?
[16:07] <z3bra> I'll try that
[16:07] <mumixam> if the system is already installed just update the kernel
[16:08] <Gargravarr> in all cases, i can't find anything in the logs, implying the rootfs isn't being mounted in the background, but without logs i cannot figure out what's going on
[16:09] <mumixam> Gargravarr: hardware is the same as other machines without issues?
[16:10] <Gargravarr> mumixam: for the most part, yes
[16:10] <mumixam> have you tried memtest86+?
[16:10] <z3bra> I'm using the 16.04.1 iso now which doesn't have this option
[16:10] <Gargravarr> might as well
[16:10] <mumixam> z3bra: i thought i seen it in there
[16:11] <nacc> z3bra: 16.04.1
[16:11] <nacc> z3bra: you want 16.04..3
[16:11] <mumixam> if not just do a normal install then upgrade the kernel unless you need the raid card for rootfs
[16:11] <nacc> *.3
[16:11] <z3bra> yeah I'm downloading it
[16:12] <nacc> z3bra: 16.04.1 is the same as 16.04 kernel wise
[16:12] <nacc> no hwe there
[16:12] <nacc> z3bra: so it wouldn't present you with a hwe option, afaict
[16:14] <thinky> hello
[16:14] <thinky> how can i add this ppa in ubuntu ` https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:ailin_nemui:irssi-test;package=irssi
[16:14] <thinky> ?
[16:15] <thinky> i try to add in software & ubuntu but +add source button doesnt get active
[16:16] <Kon-> That isn't a PPA
[16:16] <thinky> so where can i find ppa for irssi?
[16:16] <thinky> i want to install latest version but sudo apt update doesnt bring latest irssi
[16:17] <sere> Question: I have this small backup script for tar i can get running but the --excludes are not working.. anyone help would be grately appreciated
[16:17] <sere> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DrcCnqMsrC/
[16:17] <Ool> https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:ailin_nemui:irssi-test;package=irssi
[16:18] <Ool> thinky: everything is clear on this page
[16:18] <IntelCore> Sometimes grub returns to menu after enter before i hit enter again, then it will boot.
[16:19] <IntelCore> yesterday it worked fine, then updated system.. now it doing it again
[16:20] <IntelCore> 145.3mb to download, more updates
[16:20] <nacc> thinky: why do you want the latest irssi?
[16:20] <nacc> thinky: did you try the instructions on that page?
[16:21] <thinky> yes
[16:21] <thinky> i did
[16:21] <thinky> but it is giving W and E now : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZDBJnjZWGR/
[16:21] <nacc> thinky: ok, read the manpage it refers to if you don't care about security for your system :)
[16:21] <thinky> i care !
[16:22] <thinky> so it was bad idea adding that sourcE? O.o
[16:22] <IntelCore> libreoffice updated
[16:22] <Kon-> Not unless you think OpenSUSE hosts malware
[16:23] <IntelCore> is there a signed linux image - 116 ?
[16:24] <Kon-> "why do you want the latest version?" is a ridiculous question for software that is used daily
[16:25] <IntelCore>  < just want updated, and works
[16:25] <nacc> Kon-: no it's not
[16:25] <nacc> Kon-: ubuntu supports irssi in 16.04 as shipped in 16.04
[16:25] <nacc> Kon-: if you want a newer version, do you have a reason?
[16:25] <Kon-> Bug fixes, new features
[16:25] <nacc> Kon-: bug fixes, if filed in Ubuntu, are backported
[16:25] <nacc> Kon-: and specific new features was the point
[16:26] <nacc> most users do this and then say "i want the latest" without a why.
[16:26] <nacc> without realizing they are explicitly trusting the PPA owners
[16:26] <thinky> ok done
[16:26] <ycyclist> Is 12.04 still supported?  I just got ahold of a 12.04.5 iso.
[16:27] <Kon-> nacc, If the PPA is maintained by the developers of the software, and the software is well-known and included in the distro repo, it's unlikely that an official release will include malware
[16:28] <nacc> ycyclist: esm only (canonical paid support)
[16:28] <nacc> Kon-: lots of ifs.
[16:28] <Kon-> Do you have any reason to suggest the latest version of irssi is unsafe?
[16:29] <IntelCore> 12.04 lts is until 2019
[16:29] <sere> Question: I have this small backup script for tar i can get running but the --excludes are not working.. anyone help would be grately appreciated
[16:29] <sere> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DrcCnqMsrC/
[16:30] <nacc> IntelCore: no, it was until 2017
[16:30] <nacc> IntelCore: 5 years
[16:30] <nacc> IntelCore: you can pay Canonical for more support
[16:31] <nacc> Kon-: red herring; my point was simply you don't always need the 'latest' and you certainly don't need to add 3rd party repositories just so you can get 'latest'
[16:31] <IntelCore> yea.. i'm on tha page tells support end of life
[16:31] <IntelCore> thanks nacc
[16:32] <Kon-> I agree nacc, but I think it gives end-users the wrong idea when they point to officially maintained repos (hosted by OpenSUSE, no less) and told that it may compromise system security
[16:32] <nacc> Kon-: 'officially' by whom? this is the ubuntu support channel.
[16:33] <donofrio> how do I get pastebinit to keep color and formatting when submitting pastes
[16:36] <IntelCore>  12.04.5 ended april 28 2017
[16:36] <nacc> donofrio: maybe one of the other settings (rather than plain text)?
[16:36] <nacc> donofrio: not sure how pastebinit posts it and if its aware of those options yet
[16:41] <donofrio> nacc, it tries but don't think that is the way - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rscVzcH5x8/
[16:44] <nacc> donofrio: that was telling it what mode?
[16:46] <qswz> for the life of me, I was never able to make a imwheel.sh script run on statup (I stried the multiple autostart ways)
[16:47] <donofrio> nacc that was screenfetch -p
[16:48] <giaco> Hello
[16:49] <qswz> scrot -s
[16:49] <nacc> donofrio: i understand, but was it pasted 'as' plaintext?
[16:49] <giaco> Hello! I've a problem with openssh -A agent forwarding. Not sure if this is a problem related to openssh or ubuntu, but what happens is that after the connection the SSH_AUTH_SOCK variable points to a non-existing file/socket in /tmp. Do you have any idea on what's happening here?
[16:50] <nacc> donofrio: i think pastebinit may have a conf file too
[16:50] <donofrio> not that I know of I just did "screenfetch | pastebinit" http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qK2cF9zdcb/
[16:51] <nacc> donofrio: right, that's not what i was suggesting :)
[16:53] <ycyclist> Thank you nacc.
[16:53] <nacc> ycyclist: yw
[16:56] <raub> Can anyone recommend a vpn client that plays nice with a cisco vpn server?
[16:59] <IntelCore> grub not ubuntu?
[17:00] <IntelCore> nacc, why grub return before the menu boots ubuntu?
[17:01] <nacc> IntelCore: sorry?
[17:08] <IntelCore> Nacc, grub2 menu.. I use grub.  Hit enter to load ubuntu. But then, comes back to same grub menu
[17:08] <IntelCore> nacc, you think it is this...?
[17:09] <IntelCore> nacc, " recordfail' is not 1 for the first boot and is equal to 1 on the reboot .."
[17:10] <IntelCore> nacc, Also, my battery is empty..needs replace.
[17:10] <IntelCore> not using laptop batt now, plugged in socket
[17:12] <roger23894832> hi i need to modify a open source program .. very small modification i need the program to include a custom http header .. paying 0.25btc ... private message me thanks
[17:12] <IntelCore> hmm.. started with the - 112 img.. and sometimes the menu loads straight away, other times has these restart
[17:12] <TJ-> roger23894832: you could run a proxy in front of it like squid that adds the HTTP header
[17:14] <nacc> roger23894832: totally offtopic for this channel.
[17:14] <nacc> IntelCore: does it ever work (if it fails once)?
[17:14] <giaco> nevermind, solved on my own
[17:16] <donofrio> nacc, what I'm asking is does anyone know how to maintain formatting and control codes but not display them in rawtext from screenfetch?
[17:17] <nacc> donofrio: so you want an online terminal emulator?
[17:17] <IntelCore> nacc, yes. like it failed day before, but not yesterday, but today it did.
[17:17] <nacc> IntelCore: ok, and when it fails, does it work the ... second time, say?
[17:17] <nacc> IntelCore: or does it fail until you reboot, etc
[17:18] <donofrio> nacc no not that just wanting the pastebinit to make a proper formatted posting...seems to leave escape codes uncoverted into color on pasteainit site
[17:18] <nacc> donofrio: you're not listening? pastebinit is pasting plain text
[17:18] <nacc> donofrio: plain text does not have 'color'
[17:18] <IntelCore> nacc, I see it boot after hit enter for 2nd time
[17:18] <nacc> IntelCore: hrm
[17:18] <nacc> IntelCore: i thought grub had an error log or something
[17:18] <nacc> IntelCore: but i really don't know
[17:19] <donofrio> nacc, uh ok so besides taking a screengrab is there a way to get the text to retain formatting on pastebinit?
[17:19] <IntelCore> ty nacc
[17:19] <nacc> donofrio: as i said, try manually entering it with the other possible formatting options
[17:20] <IntelCore> nacc, it a 00_header thing?  at, maketimeout () set timeout=10 in that script?
[17:21] <nacc> IntelCore: i don't know
[17:21] <IntelCore> nacc, yes. I dunno either. hmm, lookin logs, ty
[17:24] <LazyBones_> lo all
[17:26] <gordonjcp> LazyBones_: evening
[17:26] <LazyBones_> had some issues with lubuntu - dns not working, just testing everything works fine..
[17:27] <LazyBones_> :)
[17:27] <LazyBones_> k, ciao..
[17:29] <IntelCore> Grub_cmdline_linux= ""  - I am not going to change it
[17:30] <IntelCore> reboot repair, BRB
[17:33] <IntelCore> no prob that time
[17:33] <IntelCore> that time was restart to install updates
[17:34] <IntelCore> updates i had waiting
[17:34] <TJ-> IntelCore: does it only happen on a cold-boot? from a hard power-off state?
[17:34] <IntelCore> so.. I think to watch what it (grub2) is doing more closely now.
[17:35] <IntelCore> IDK, TJ- it may be
[17:36] <IntelCore> It may, yes.. it was today.. plug in socket, boot/return, then entered and it did
[17:36] <IntelCore> and, it did restart fine enough
[17:36] <IntelCore> as expected
[17:37] <jair> hello all
[17:37] <IntelCore> going to turn off this, so it shows text.
[17:38] <IntelCore> just have to watch what it doing closely
[17:38] <IntelCore> TY for helps, ya'll. Have a nice ubuntu day
[17:39] <qswz> what's the simplest way to start a script at session opening?
[17:40] <qswz> well, won't work, because I've disabled password for initial session opening
[17:42] <jair> the server with the memory leak issue is about to crash and I have the following screenshot: https://ibb.co/dmrfvx
[17:43] <Gargravarr> mumixam: memtest passed 100%, all 16GB
[17:43] <jair> any tip on what I can run to identify which process is taking the memory and not releasing it
[17:43] <aleksander> so guys i wonder, is it possible to have fully portable browser on linux, that doesn't leave any trace?
[17:44] <jair> hello all this is a bug memory regression issue of 17.10 in the Dell R440 > https://ibb.co/dmrfvx
[17:44] <Gargravarr> jair: isn't htop telling you what you need to know?
[17:44] <jair> before the server crash I have been looking for softwares to identify the memory leak
[17:44] <jair> I ran memtest and got the copy of the output
[17:45] <jair> Gargravarr: did you have a look at the screenshot?
[17:45] <Gargravarr> that would have been my suggestion, to look at htop and check processes and threads for high memory use
[17:45] <jair> Gargravarr: it is showing no processes using the memory
[17:45] <jair> Gargravarr: htop is showing that everything is working fine
[17:46] <jair> Gargravarr: that is the issue
[17:46] <nacc> jair: `cat /proc/meminfo` in a pastebin
[17:46] <jair> OK
[17:46] <jair> thanks nacc checking
[17:46] <nacc> jair: also, are you possibly using any tmpfs or something?
[17:47] <Gargravarr> i see. iirc, the colour of the RAM gauge in htop means something, i can't remember what
[17:48] <Gargravarr> yes, green = actively used, blue = buffer, yellow = cache
[17:48] <jair> nacc: nah, this is just a iptables router
[17:48] <Gargravarr> the OS seems to be caching too agressively and not releasing it
[17:48] <Gargravarr> if you run 'free -m' you'll probably see most of the RAM use is in cache
[17:48] <jair> nacc: here > http://paste.debian.net/1011521
[17:49] <nacc> jair: appears to be all in use by THP
[17:49] <nacc> jair: which, if too aggressive, can be harder to break up and swap out under memory pressure, iirc
[17:50] <nacc> jair: did you by any chance set to THP to always?
[17:50] <jair> Gargravarr: > http://paste.debian.net/1011524/
[17:50] <pinnerup> Does anyone know of a program for Ubuntu or Linux in general that shows which installed fonts support a given unicode range? Like if I want to find out which of my installed fonts support, say, Phoenician?
[17:51] <jair> nacc: what is that?
[17:51] <jair> nacc: THP
[17:51] <nacc> jair: Transparent Huge Pages
[17:51] <nacc> jair: the DirectMap bit at the bottom
[17:51] <Gargravarr> jair: okay, fair enough
[17:52] <Gargravarr> i'm wrong, ignore me :)
[17:52] <nacc> jair: what OS / kernel is this?
[17:52] <jair> ubuntu 17.10
[17:52] <jair> kernel -32
[17:52] <nacc> jair: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42525327/what-are-side-effects-cons-of-disabling-transparent-huge-pagesthp/42540006 has some interesting tidbits
[17:52] <nacc> jair: i'd try disabling THP and see if it fixes your issue
[17:53] <Anticom> Hi all. a friend of mine (a little elderly) hasn't installed updates in a while
[17:53] <nacc> jair: the default is madvise, but if your software is madvise heavy, you can get into weird isseus
[17:53] <Anticom> he's got some weird chinese sources when i do `sudo apt update`
[17:53] <jair> nacc: you can see this > https://ibb.co/dmrfvx
[17:53] <Anticom> is this something i've got to worry about?
[17:53] <nacc> jair: yes, you already sent that to me
[17:53] <jair> nacc: how can I disable THP
[17:53] <nacc> jair: cat /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/enabled
[17:54] <nacc> jair: read the link?
[17:54] <jair> nacc: no yet
[17:54] <jair> checking I am trying to see if I can save the server from crash
[17:54] <nacc> jair: and then you would change your grub default to pass transparent_hugepage=never
[17:54] <Anticom> also when i try to upgrade, i get "the package linux-headers-4.4.0-81-generic needs to be installd again but there's no archive for that"
[17:54] <Anticom> (loosely translated)
[17:55] <nacc> Anticom: that kernel is ancient
[17:55] <Anticom> nacc: i know but why isn't it in the repos anymore?
[17:55] <nacc> Anticom: if you know what you are doing, remove it, and then install the updates
[17:55] <Anticom> like how am i supposed to upgrade now
[17:55] <Gargravarr> Anticom: that's the reason, it's ancient
[17:55] <jair> nacc: http://paste.debian.net/1011527
[17:55] <Gargravarr> you should be able to upgrade to a newer 4.4 kernel without APT stopping you, current is -116
[17:55] <nacc> Gargravarr: not if there is a broken package already
[17:56] <Anticom> Gargravarr: how exactly would i do that? apt remove -f the old one and then?
[17:56] <nacc> Anticom: it's hard to know what's wrong, immediately, but the package is definitely still in the archive
[17:56] <nacc> jair: right, so set that to never, as per the link
[17:56] <Gargravarr> possibly to do with these suspicious sources
[17:56] <nacc> jair: i don't believe it will free the thp, but i'm not sure
[17:57] <z3bra> ok so my fix will only be avail on 16.04.4, so I guess I need to wait... Thanks everyone for your help
[17:57] <jair> nacc: you mean I can try now and see if it saves the server?
[17:57] <Gargravarr> Anticom: save the Chinese source deb string somewhere for later analysis and put archive.ubuntu.com in its place
[17:58] <Anticom> Gargravarr: https://imagebin.ca/v/3sbmC0C3HPJt
[17:58] <Anticom> Sorry, it's german
[17:59] <Gargravarr> Anticom: s'ok, i can read some German
[17:59] <avi_IRC> how to add curl as c++ header file? curl exists but compiler is unable to find. Ubuntu 16.04
[17:59] <Gargravarr> interesting, good to see internationalisation is working well
[17:59] <Anticom> hm so tl;dr; he's running xenial (according to lsb_release) however in /etc/apt/sources.list everything is on zesty
[18:00] <jair> nacc: I changed it > http://paste.debian.net/1011530 but the memory is still increasing
[18:00] <Gargravarr> avi_IRC: libcurl4-gentls-dev
[18:00] <Gargravarr> *gnutls
[18:00] <jair> nacc: does this will take effect after the reboot of the crash?
[18:00] <jair> nacc: perhaps?
[18:01] <Gargravarr> Anticom: hmm, that'd work for doing a dist-upgrade (maybe he agreed sometime in the past but cancelled out of it once it reset the sources)
[18:01] <Anticom> Gargravarr:  i just modified all entries to be xenial
[18:01] <Anticom> that shouldn't be an issue right?
[18:01] <OerHeks> Anticom, also precise sources??
[18:01] <Anticom> OerHeks: yep, one of them
[18:02] <Gargravarr> Anticom: correct, it'll all come back into line now
[18:02] <jair> nacc: I wonder if there is some command that can make the memory go back to zero something like for swap swapoff -a or something like that :(
[18:02] <OerHeks> really a mess there, not likely a virus/walware, but randomly added sources
[18:03] <Gargravarr> especially for an older gent who may not 100% understand what he's clicking on...
[18:04] <jair> nacc: > here more details > http://paste.debian.net/1011531
[18:04] <Anticom> OerHeks: he also had some maleware on his firefox. dunno whether i got rid of it completely
[18:04] <Anticom> but yes, this machine is a wrek :D
[18:06] <Gargravarr> maybe more sensible to back up and nuke from orbit?
[18:06] <OerHeks> Anticom, time to do a fresh install,, he'll be back online in 30 minutes
[18:06] <jjvvx> to update only one package I just do `# apt-get install package` right?
[18:08] <Gargravarr> jjvvx: yep
[18:11] <OerHeks> jjvvx, no, install does something different
[18:12] <OerHeks> and why update just one package, it might break dependencies...
[18:12] <jjvvx> OerHeks: because it's the only package that I need updated atm
[18:12] <nacc> jair: tbh, i'd just reboot it and see if the memory doesn't leak
[18:12] <jjvvx> also it updated some other dependencies anyway so the latter statement seems to be false
[18:13] <Anticom> Running the upgrade now. Thanks for the help guys
[18:13] <Gargravarr> just to clarify, it's not the advisable way to do it, sure, but it does work
[18:14]  * Gargravarr has used it in the past when on a slow connection but needs an important update
[18:15] <mead> once you install Samba, how do you configure it to join a specific workgroup?
[18:16] <jair> nacc: I will see if after the crash the memory leaks again
[18:17] <jair> it is going to crash soon
[18:17] <jjvvx> Gargravarr: yeah my router's AC adapter decided to die on me so I'm tethered to my phone rn
[18:17] <jjvvx> I just needed that one update and I'm on a limited data plan so
[18:17] <Mathisen> mead, edit your smb.conf
[18:18] <mead> where is it located by default?
[18:19] <Mathisen> > /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:23] <mead> once you change the config, do you need to so something to activate the new config?
[18:23] <Mathisen> restart samba service
[18:24] <mead> what is the cli to do that?
[18:24] <Mathisen> you know, you can look upp some basic info yourself...
[18:25] <Mathisen> sudo service smbd restart
[18:25] <OerHeks> !samba
[18:26] <OerHeks> without knowing howto handle samba, i wonder what you added/changed to the conf
[18:30] <mead> OerHeks: changed the workgroup
[18:33] <debouncer> hi, I encountered with login loop problem in 17.10 version with nvidia gtx970 graphic card.
[18:34] <debouncer> can anyone help me? thanks
[18:35] <debouncer> Btw it is not only working with gnome. For now, it works fine in unity
[18:37] <debouncer> isnt that odd?
[18:37] <Mathisen> a little yes, what nvidia drivers are you using
[18:38] <debouncer> Mathisen, 390.25
[18:38] <debouncer> open source one
[18:38] <xXkIlLeRbOiXx> now you must die
[18:39] <spec2> Hi, for a week or so now I've been suffering from what I've been assuming has been buggy video drivers, brought on by an apt upgrade. I've tried different drivers and different ubuntu versions, but get the same result. Nothing appears on the screen smoothly anymore. Nothing can be dragged around the screen without it being horribly jumpy. Mplayer no longer works well. The strange thing is that when i boot from a live cd (installation cd), it seems to work fi
[18:40] <Mathisen> debouncer, ok you need to share logs with error message to know more.
[18:40] <debouncer> Mathisen which ones?
[18:41] <Mathisen> start with syslog
[18:42] <OerHeks> so standard nouveau works, what videocard is that, exactly? lspci | grep VGA # would tell
[18:58] <memphisto> hi
[18:58] <memphisto> having issues with openconnect
[18:59] <memphisto> username:fgets (stdin): Resource temporarily unavailable
[18:59] <memphisto> using it in a script with --passwd-on-stdin option
[19:12] <FrameFever> I want to to sudo apt-get update
[19:12] <FrameFever> but I am getting: "Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default."
[19:12] <FrameFever> ubunut 17.10 x64
[19:12] <FrameFever> what is wrong?
[19:12] <FrameFever> fresh install
[19:12] <Kingbonj> FrameFever: Add --allow-unauthenticated
[19:13] <FrameFever> Kingbonj: where? at the end?
[19:13] <nacc> FrameFever: wait, what repo are you using?
[19:13] <nacc> FrameFever: what mirror, i mean (pastebin the output from `apt-get update`)
[19:13] <nacc> Kingbonj: without context, that doesn't seem like great advice
[19:13] <Kingbonj> Yes, but remember the security is there for your protection
[19:14] <Kingbonj> Nacc: quite ^
[19:14] <FrameFever> I cannot copy paste because of vmware
[19:14] <FrameFever> https://imgur.com/a/FyN9a
[19:14] <nacc> !pastebinit | FrameFever
[19:14] <FrameFever> like I said, I cannot copy paste
[19:14] <nacc> FrameFever: why do you have the cdrom still configured?
[19:14] <nacc> FrameFever: just remove it from your sources.list
[19:14] <FrameFever> don't know
[19:14] <nacc> FrameFever: ... pastebinit is a cli tool
[19:15] <FrameFever> just fresh installed
[19:15] <nacc> FrameFever: vmware is irrelevant, if you ahve network
[19:15] <OerHeks> disable cdrom in sources
[19:15] <nacc> FrameFever: yeah, disable that entry and it's fine
[19:18] <FrameFever> nacc: I removed the CD from from VMware settings
[19:18] <FrameFever> but the problem is still there
[19:19] <teward> FrameFever: erm, removing the CD from the VM settings is only half the battle
[19:19] <teward> you need to go into /etc/sources.list and comment out any cdrom entries
[19:19] <OerHeks> disable cdrom in sources ..
[19:19] <nacc> FrameFever: right, not what i was suggesting
[19:21] <FrameFever> teward: there i no file called like that
[19:21] <nacc> FrameFever: /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:23] <mead> trying to connect to the existing smb workgroup...  "failed to retrieve share list from server: Invalid argument"
[19:24] <FrameFever> nacc: now it works
[19:25] <FrameFever> is this a bug in ubuntu?
[19:25] <OerHeks> mead, problem #5 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[19:26] <OerHeks> Unable to mount location: Failed to retrieve share list from server" error message when trying to browse your network, this may be related to Windows "Event ID 2011".
[19:26] <OerHeks> Please see the fix noted here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177078
[19:26] <teward> FrameFever: i mistyped the path, my apologies.
[19:31] <nacc> FrameFever: no
[19:32] <OerHeks> FrameFever, it is proper behaviour of vmware, it does what you tell it to
[19:32] <OerHeks> you made your own custom vm, proisioning with existing vmś  would not require those steps
[19:37] <FrameFever> I enter following cmd in my console:
[19:37] <FrameFever> url -sSL http://www.cmake.org/files/v3.10/cmake-3.10.2-Linux-x86_64.tar.gz | sudo tar -xzC /opt
[19:37] <FrameFever> but nothing happens
[19:37] <FrameFever> I get also the shell not back
[19:37] <FrameFever> have to cancel with Strg+c
[19:38] <Frank_> I'm back for more...still hoping to fix this no sound through speaker problem in 16.04.3
[19:39] <deadrom> hi
[19:40] <Frank_> hi
[19:41] <OerHeks> url or curl
[19:41] <Frank_> url for what
[19:42] <OerHeks> FrameFever, we use the standard build-essentials, why do you *need* that cmake version ?
[20:00] <mead> OerHeks: #5 can't be the issue, and I don't have norton running on windows box with the file share
[20:08] <lucka> Hi There
[20:09] <lucka> I would very like to install intel drivers on my newly xubuntu 17.10 install... what package should I install?
[20:09] <ioria> why ?
[20:09] <lucka> Why I would like to install intel graphics card drivers?
[20:09] <ioria> yep
[20:10] <lucka> So I would experience better 2d/3d rendering
[20:10] <lucka> I own following integrated graphics card: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09)
[20:10] <ioria> mind if you ask what  the issue  is ?
[20:11] <lucka> ioria: don't have any issues currently...
[20:11] <lucka> would just wanna have the latest drivers that's all
[20:11] <craigbass76> Where do phones mount up when you plug them in via usb? I can find them in the file browser, but now sure where to look in a command line -- I don't see anything mounted up that looks likely
[20:12] <OerHeks> intel is standard in the kernel now, maybe that new 5500 needs a kernel line;  i915.alpha_support=1
[20:13] <ioria> lucka, what kernel in use, please ?
[20:13] <Frank_> i can't even get the speakers to work
[20:13] <lucka> ioria: 4.13.0-36-generic
[20:15] <OerHeks> craigbass76, i would asume /media/
[20:15] <ioria> lucka, you should be fine ... but i cannot recommend  the intel-installer, sy
[20:15] <lucka> OerHeks: so I put this in which file? don't know what boot manager xubuntu uses by default
[20:15] <craigbass76> OerHeks: Nope
[20:16] <lucka> Another thing is... how can I disable touchpad while typing?
[20:16] <lucka> I keep pressing it with my side of a left thumb and it's messing my workflow :p
[20:17] <lucka> Ah I found it in the settings
[20:17] <craigbass76> OerHeks: Ahh, I didn't go deep enough. /run/user/myUID/gvfs/mtpblahblah
[20:18] <lucka> This is awesome
[20:19] <OerHeks> interesting discussion on Intel dri2/dri3 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/enable-dri3-by-default-in-18-04/1253/8
[20:23] <lucka> ioria: Also I am experiencing teardropin while scrolling with firefox
[20:26] <ioria> lucka, define 'teardropin' ?
[20:26] <kenrin> What compoistor are you using
[20:27] <kenrin> compton is pretty popular for xfce
[20:28] <lucka> ioria: nah, I guess I thought mistakenly...
[20:28] <ioria> ok
[20:29] <YADW1> Hello! I'm trying to get some fonts to work on libreoffice, I tried almost every way to install them but never succeeded. I'm on Ubuntu 17.10
[20:30] <grumble2> Hi, I have a laptop running ubuntu 17.10 (with wayland). Before 17.10, I used to be able to automatically change the screen resolution in shell scripts with "xrandr", however that no longer works.  I'm for a way to change the screen resolution from a shell script that works on 17.10. Can anyone help me?
[20:31] <YADW1> Some time ago, I edited /etc/fonts/fonts.conf to include a /WINDOWS/Fonts folder on another partition, which worked until yesterday
[20:33] <YADW1> Now any software other than LibreOffice suite can see and use those fonts. I tried reinstalling the whole suite, deleting any .conf file related to it, even runned a dkpg-reconfigure
[20:33] <YADW1> Nothing at all. I'm getting desperate, can anyone give me a hand?
[20:35] <kenrin> Did your fonts have the pfb and afm ?
[20:35] <YADW1> Sorry, I guess I don't know.
[20:37] <ducasse> grumble2: there's no way to do that with wayland. by design the desktop should handle that.
[20:38] <YADW1> @kenrin , what exactly do you mean by *having* pfb and afm?
[20:38] <grumble2> ducasse: can I tell the desktop to do it? some weird dbus call? tried digging around but haven't found anything so far
[20:38] <craigbass76> YADW1: Did you try sticking them in /home/you/.fonts/ ?
[20:38] <YADW1> Yup, tried that too.
[20:38] <lucka> ioria: but when I am watching a movie in VLC I defenatelly see tear drops like picture is tearing (having intel graphic card) how can I fix this?
[20:38] <ducasse> grumble2: afaik it's not even implemted in gnome at all yet, so no.
[20:39] <ioria> lucka, try another player, please... mpv is good
[20:39] <kenrin> Well if  you are using type 1,  they dropped support for that last year: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/LibreOffice-drops-Type-1-font-support
[20:39] <grumble2> well i can change the resolution in that settings dialog, hmm
[20:39] <YADW1> It's a LibreOffice specific issue I suppose.
[20:40] <craigbass76> Where'd you get the fonts YADW1 ? Wondering if I can duplicate it here
[20:40] <ioria> grumble2, you can do it editing the kernel boot line,  but never tried
[20:40] <lucka> ioria: installing and will report how it goes
[20:40] <ioria> ok
[20:40] <driveaway> i need help with my att 5268 wifi firmware its causing problems with my ubuntu 14.04 eth0 connections
[20:41] <YADW1> They were the fonts I had in another partition, from a Windows XP installation
[20:41] <lucka> I did tick the installation of media formats during the installation so codecs "should" be installed
[20:41] <ducasse> grumble2: ok, i don't use gnome myself, so i really don't know. you could try asking the gnome people, i expect most of them are on oftc.
[20:41] <driveaway> i need help with my att 5268 wifi firmware its causing problems with my ubuntu 14.04 eth0 connections
[20:41] <driveaway> help please
[20:42] <lucka> ioria: unfortunatelly tear dropping present in MPV too
[20:42] <ioria> lucka, i suggest  ubuntu-restricted-extras as well then reboot
[20:42] <grumble2> ioria: well, i'm doing it from bash scripts because I want to change it at run-time: For example, when starting netflix i want to set the external monitor resolution, and restore the old resolution when closing it
[20:42] <lucka> ioria: what is the repository filename path agan?
[20:42] <TJ-> grumble2: might be better just switching to the X session
[20:42] <nikos_> hello can anyone help me with nagios ?
[20:43] <ioria> grumble2, not with wayland, afaik
[20:43] <ioria> lucka, it's a package, not a repo :  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:43] <lucka> ioria, ah ok :) Thank you
[20:43] <ioria> info xubuntu-restricted-extras | lucka
[20:44] <ioria> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras | lucka
[20:44] <lucka> ioria: I thought I installed those during the installation process,... I guess not. Thank you
[20:44] <ioria> ok
[20:45] <ioria> grumble2, maybe some gdm3 hooks
[20:45] <fullstack> Hi, 16.04.  I can't apt --anything--, due to /boot.  I tried 'apt autoremove' (fails) apt -f autoremove fails, apt install byobu && purge-old-kernels -- byobu fails to install due to apt trying to install stuff in /boot
[20:46] <fullstack> I then tried rm -rf /boot/old_kernels* and that failed
[20:46] <fullstack> I'm completely stuck. Why does Ubuntu have such a small /boot why can't I just fix this?
[20:46] <kenrin> Are you out of space?  Do you have more than one kernel installed?
[20:46] <lucka> Does ubuntu/xubuntu has some sort of snapshots possibility like if you manage to break system? Like time machine in MacOS or smth similar in WIndows?
[20:46] <fullstack> I'm out of space
[20:46] <ioria> fullstack, lvm, encryption ?
[20:46] <driveaway> hello
[20:46] <kenrin> Just delete them manually then fullstack
[20:47] <kenrin> Then re-run apt
[20:47] <fullstack> I tried deleting them manually
[20:47] <fullstack> didn't work
[20:47] <kenrin> what command did you use ?
[20:47] <lucka> Need to reboot
[20:47] <lordcirth_work> lucka, not by default.  If you use btrfs as your filesystem, you could take snapshots.  Or if using LVM, LVM snapshots.
[20:47] <fullstack> rm -rf old kernel files
[20:47] <fullstack> do you mean apt remove each one?
[20:48] <driveaway> how do i get new firmware for att 5268ac
[20:48] <lucka> lordcirth_work: I did tick LVM and system encryption during the installation
[20:48] <TJ-> fullstack: I've got a script that cleans that up: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[20:48] <kenrin> no,  just rm *-4.4.0-103-generic as an example
[20:48] <driveaway> can anyone help please
[20:48] <kenrin> Then maybe rm *-4.4.0-104-generic if you still need space,  the names will depend on what you got installed of course
[20:48] <lucka> lordcirth_work: can you give me a link or what should I google in order to enable snapshots for lvm
[20:49] <fullstack> Yeah I do that, and then it tries to reinstall them
[20:49] <driveaway> my eth0 keeps losing connection
[20:49] <fullstack> and then it fills up the space and dies
[20:49] <kenrin> Tried to reinstall them?..
[20:50] <driveaway> how do i get new firmware for att 5268ac
[20:50] <driveaway> can anyone help please
[20:51] <teward> driveaway: you need to talk to AT&T.  That doesn't sound like an Ubuntu issue at *all*
[20:51] <guacamole_> My encrypted /home is refusing to mount at login. Using ecryptfs-recover-private, I can mount them read-only to /tmp, but would really like to find a way to restore them to /home without reinstalling.
[20:51] <fullstack> yeah So I just rm /boot/*oldkernels-etc-etc-generic
[20:51] <fullstack> I have 142mb of space
[20:51] <driveaway> teward i did
[20:51] <lucka> ioria: I have installed xubuntu extras and rebooted, teardrops present after reboot in vlc and MPV
[20:51] <driveaway> they will not provide me any info
[20:52] <OerHeks> driveaway, try ##hardware
[20:52] <lucka> my graphics card is 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09)
[20:52] <JimBuntu> driveaway, I'll tell you now that they update them remotely when they see fit.
[20:52] <TJ-> guacamole_: how is it refusing to load? messages in syslog/kern.log ?
[20:52] <lucka> Halp please. I think this might be related to the graphics card drivers
[20:53] <driveaway> my access key is available without having to put it in
[20:54] <guacamole_> TJ-: At graphical login, after putting in my password, I get an error about my .dmrc file having wrong permissions, and then the screen goes black.  dropping to shell, I can cd to home, but none of my files are there.
[20:54] <guacamole_> TJ-: I will check the log and come back later.
[20:55] <TJ-> guacamole_: OK, hang on, that's relatively simple to fix
[20:55] <TJ-> guacamole_: you drop to a shell meaning you press Cltr+Alt+F1 or similar and log-in at the text console?
[20:56] <guacamole_> TJ-: yes
[20:57] <TJ-> guacamole_: OK, at that point when logging in at console encrypted home will/should be mounted, so if it isn't then there's something very wrong
[20:58] <guacamole_> TJ-: yeah, something got corrupted when I had to do a reisub i think
[20:58] <ricardoramirez> hi
[20:58] <ricardoramirez> I am trying to install KDE in Ubuntu 7.10 but I get an error message
[20:58] <ricardoramirez> https://imgur.com/a/3QW4d
[20:58] <TJ-> guacamole_: ...BUT... the fact your error reports $HOME/.dmrc having incorrect permissions means either a) encrypted home /is/ mounted but that file has wrong permissions so you get logged out, or b) encrypted mount fails but there's a stray $HOME/.dmrc
[20:59] <zteam> Hi! Which package are we supposed to install to get adobe flash working in chrome nowadays?
[20:59] <TJ-> guacamole_: check /var/log/auth.log, /var/log/kern.log for authentication and/or I/O errors respectively
[20:59] <zteam> There is just too many packages available, nowadays
[20:59] <ricardoramirez> hi
[20:59] <ricardoramirez> I am trying to install KDE in Ubuntu 7.10 but I get an error message
[20:59] <ricardoramirez> https://imgur.com/a/3QW4d
[20:59] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok, will check.
[21:00] <TJ-> ricardoramirez: I hope you mean 17.10 not 7.10 :D
[21:00] <kenrin> 7.10 is end of life
[21:00] <ricardoramirez> sorry, 17.10
[21:01] <kenrin> Looks like your mirror is dead ricardoramirez
[21:01] <zteam> ricardoramirez, change mirror to the official repo, it can't find the mirror correctly
[21:01] <TJ-> ricardoramirez: 404 might just mean the package versions have changed and you need to "sudo apt update" first
[21:01] <ricardoramirez> I already did sudo apt update
[21:02] <OerHeks> ricardoramirez, i see packages held back, perform dist-upgrade first
[21:02] <ricardoramirez> how to change to official repo?
[21:04] <TJ-> ricardoramirez: OK, as kenrin says, change the mirror. I've just checked and that mirror doesn't have any version after 17.10.10.8 and your system wants 17.10.10.10
[21:04] <ricardoramirez> ok, but how ?
[21:05] <zteam> can somebody please help me to get adobe flash working in chrome? ubuntu 17.10
[21:05] <Mathisen> zteam, any reason you really need adobe flash ?
[21:06] <ricardoramirez> ok, I change it to "main server"... it was "Server of Colombia".
[21:06] <TJ-> ricardoramirez: that's the one !
[21:06] <ricardoramirez> thanks
[21:07] <kenrin> Is flash still installed by default in chrome?  You should just need to click the little circled i button (or the https button as I call it) and select allow flash
[21:07] <ricardoramirez> can you help me with the sound?
[21:07] <ricardoramirez> I have a HP Envy 13 laptop with bang and olufsen, but the sound in Ubuntu is horrible.
[21:08] <zteam> Mathisen, yes, there is a webpage I'm using that require Adobe Flash
[21:08] <ricardoramirez> ?
[21:08] <Mathisen> zteam, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-install-flash.html
[21:08] <OerHeks> adobe flash comes with restricted-extras
[21:08] <Frank_> you have sound?
[21:09] <zteam> kenrin, I meant chromium not Google chrome
[21:09] <Frank_> my sound only works in headphones and if I right click on a certain spot on the screen
[21:09] <ricardoramirez> Yes, but sounds horrible.
[21:09] <kenrin> Ah yeah,  then you got to install it from the extras
[21:09] <Frank_> I only get sound in headphones
[21:09] <OerHeks> !alsa
[21:09] <Frank_> this ubuntu has been a nightmare
[21:09] <Frank_> I've done what ubotta said
[21:10] <TJ-> Frank_: what does "pastebinit <( aplay -l )" report?
[21:10] <Frank_> people say "use linux, it's better than windows"  three days still can't get sound to work
[21:10] <craigbass76> I'm still not sure I understand how right clicking on anything makes the sound work.
[21:11] <Frank_> no kidding
[21:11] <Frank_> it makes 0 sense
[21:11] <guacamole_> TJ-: I didn't see any i/o errors in kern.log, but in auth.log what stands out is a lot of 'PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so)' type messages
[21:11] <craigbass76> You right click on the sound app (VLC, Banshee, etc)?
[21:11] <Frank_> the program pastebinit is not installed
[21:11] <TJ-> guacamole_: you can safely ignore all those pam_kwallet messages
[21:12] <TJ-> Frank_: what does "cat /etc/issue" report?
[21:12] <Frank_> no
[21:12] <Frank_> Right click above the speaker icon, the volume level, at top of screen.  Sometimes that makes sound work through speakers as long as I hold down the mouse button
[21:12] <TJ-> craigbass76: I suspect the sound applet/icon on the taskbar is opening somethinh invisible and the press/click is activating something
[21:13] <Frank_> 16.04.3 LTS \n \l
[21:14] <zteam> OerHeks, unfournaty installing ubuntu-restricted-extras does not help
[21:14] <TJ-> Frank_: ahhh, you're likely using the unity/gnome desktops which dont depend on pastebinit like other DEs do. "sudo apt install pastebinit" then the pastebinit command above ^^^^
[21:14] <zteam> chromium, still doesn't pick up the plugin correctly
[21:14] <craigbass76> Oh, I totally forgot about unity or gnome3 doing strange things...
[21:15] <Frank_> ok
[21:15] <kenrin> Did you try directly from the website then zteam ? https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:15] <kenrin> then check about:plugins and enable it
[21:16] <Frank_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B3vMv85qkh/
[21:16] <TJ-> craigbass76: my hypothesis yesterday was there's a 'silent' audio device (like an HDMI audio) been set as the default device but the mouse press causes the built-in card to be used :p
[21:16] <Frank_> yes, but the mouse press only works sometimes
[21:16] <craigbass76> would alsamixer help? I've used that to fix things that weren't showing up in the regular GUI before
[21:17] <TJ-> Frank_: weird; I'm getting paste not found
[21:17] <Frank_> we ran through all sorts of alsamixer things over night
[21:17] <Frank_> do caps matter
[21:17] <guacamole_> TJ-: I'm not sure what else I should be seeing :s
[21:17] <Frank_> the last three are qKh
[21:18] <TJ-> guacamole_: if you don't see obvious warnings/errors mentioning ecryptfs then the basics seem fine
[21:18] <TJ-> Frank_: OK, got it, thanks haha! and I was correct
[21:19] <Frank_> correct about what?
[21:19] <Frank_> I am using whatever was installed
[21:19] <Frank_> I haven't done anything but install Ubuntu
[21:19] <TJ-> Frank_: see that? your PC has a HDMI audio and it's set as card 0 which is the default which explains why you're not hearing anything in the normal course of events, so all we have to do is demote that so card 1 becomes card 0
[21:19] <Frank_> my intention is to have a computer I can use until a new laptop comes
[21:19] <TJ-> Frank_: no, it's not you, it's the order the audio devices are discovered
[21:20] <Frank_> ok, so how do I do it?
[21:20] <ricardoramirez> thanks for your help
[21:20] <ricardoramirez> *bye bye*
[21:20] <Frank_> "Computer, make the speakers work"
[21:20] <TJ-> Frank_: hang on, I'm looking for the instructions
[21:21] <Bashing-om> !info adobe-flashplugin artful | zteam
[21:21] <TJ-> Frank_: show me "pastebinit /proc/asound/modules"
[21:21] <Frank_> this is tough writing this back and forth
[21:22] <TJ-> Frank_: I thought you were on the problem PC! It would help :)
[21:22] <Mrrton> Hi
[21:22] <Frank_> cwCrzmGTBv
[21:23] <zteam> Bashing-om, i can find it in synpatic, but maybe it has been removed, so what to install instead?
[21:24] <frankcab> this is it
[21:24] <frankcab> ok, I am logged in from the problem computer
[21:25] <TJ-> Frank_: aha!, that makes more sense. That shows the 2 devices in your PC are both using the same module, so it's just bad luck the HDMI device is found first
[21:25] <Aelius> just discovered snap packages, playing with them. So, if it requires sudo to install a package, then I assume the self updating feature won't work? (that is, unless I sign up for an ubuntu one account)
[21:25] <frankcab> SO how do I fix it?
[21:25] <TJ-> frankcab: Give me a moment to check the correct procedure in this case, since we can't use the normal procedure (when the modules are different it's easier)
[21:25] <Bashing-om> zteam: checking to see what I can find . " sysop@x1604:~$ apt list adobe-flashplugin >> adobe-flashplugin/xenial 1:20180206.1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 amd64" ; seeing what might have replaced the package in artful .
[21:25] <frankcab> I see
[21:26] <frankcab> sudo fixthedamnsoundnow /h
[21:26] <akik> TJ-: i've used "pacmd set-card-profile ..." to switch between laptop audio and hdmi audio
[21:26] <frankcab> I have to go work.  But I will leave the chat on
[21:26] <rr89> hi
[21:26] <guacamole_> TJ-: in syslog, I found "WARNING: t+20.03322s: IceLockAuthFile failed: Permission denied"
[21:27] <rr89> i already have installed kubuntu-desktop. how to active kde desktop?
[21:28] <magnet_> selamun aleykum
[21:31] <TJ-> frankcab: see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NH59PQjMbK/
[21:32] <rr89> how to active kde desktop?
[21:32] <TJ-> guacamole_: that also suggests the home directory /was/ mounted correctly but has incorrect permissions. Do you have a terminal shell on that PC right now? if so can you show me "pastebinit <( mount | grep ecryptfs; id; ls -altr $HOME )"
[21:33] <lucka> Ok I would like to add Option "TearFree" "true" to xorg.conf file somewhere in the System. I am using Xubuntu 17.10 where are xorgs.conf file located usually in ubuntu/xubuntu systems? In archlinux is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf where is in ubuntu/xubuntu?
[21:33] <czwolf> Hello! Can someone skilled help me to this: I am connecting to a remote pc with 1.4 TB of free space. Anyway, it looks I have problems with free space. My feeling is it has something to do with a space root uses. When I do df, I get 100%  for /dev/root Recently pc even refused my logins through graphical client - and I think it can be caused by that it wanted to write something on disk but could not, so I used text access and rebooted. Some applications
[21:33] <czwolf> (servers) keep working  even when I am not able to login and some stop to, after some time I observe them (tried a program which creates more data, in docker). Also messages that some system program failed are more frequent now. I am not sure what to do to fix the problem - the free space is on /dev/sda3 where there is only 24% occupied.
[21:34] <leftyfb> lucka: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[21:34] <leftyfb> lucka: assuming this is for an Intel chipset
[21:34] <AmericanBlend> lucka, same place
[21:34] <lucka> leftyfb: I don't have "xoreg.conf.d" directory
[21:34] <adman120> anyone have an openvpn client inside of a lxc
[21:34] <lucka> AmericanBlend: don't have "xorg.conf.d" directory
[21:34] <AmericanBlend> mkdir
[21:34] <Menzie> lucka - It's in /usr/share/X11/, not /etc/X11/
[21:35] <lucka> Menzie: ah! Thank you
[21:35] <lucka> Missed that
[21:35] <leftyfb> czwolf: you need to clean space
[21:36] <akik> lucka: the configs are also read from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (it doesn't exist by default)
[21:36] <guacamole_> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/EfYrbs0m
[21:36] <TJ-> czwolf: as you say it sounds like the root file-system has run out of space, so you need to identify files that can be deleted to free some up, or if possible enlarge the root file-system
[21:36] <leftyfb> adman120: please ask a support question, not for people to take a survey
[21:36] <czwolf> leftyb It is possible taht system runs about 5 years now. What would you suggest?
[21:36] <leftyfb> czwolf: I suggest cleaning up some space
[21:37] <Bashing-om> zteam: I have conflicting tutorials to install flash . Not at all sure of a best means to proceed as I do not have a 17.10 install to test .
[21:37] <leftyfb> czwolf: at 1.4TB, 99% of that has nothing to do with applications or system file. Maybe logs.
[21:37] <adman120> I'm having an issue where I'm getting this error while trying to run openvpn as a client in a lxc: openvpn.service: Failed to reset devices.list: Operation not permitted
[21:37] <nacc> adman120: probably needs to be privileged
[21:37] <nacc> adman120: you should check in #lxcontainers
[21:37] <adman120> it is
[21:38] <adman120> thanks
[21:38] <TJ-> guacamole_: That looks very bad; it looks like you've managed to totally delete the original directory. Let's look further: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /home/ /home/.ecryptfs/ /home/.ecryptfs/mike/ )"
[21:38] <leftyfb> adman120: use sudo
[21:38] <adman120> I'm running as root
[21:38] <czwolf> TJ- Enlargin the root file-system sounds good to me. So you suggest partitioning   yes? I athink i can for sure sacrifice some space from that 1.4 TB ..
[21:38] <adman120> just to test
[21:39] <TJ-> czwolf: enlarging is sometimes not possible unless the system is using LVM
[21:39] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok, but remember, I can still find and mount my files (read only) to /tmp with ecryptfs-utils
[21:39] <leftyfb> czwolf: so you have a server with 1.4TB being used up, but don't know what it is and you think the solution is to add more space? I think your issue is something is eating up space and giving it more is just prolonging the inevitable
[21:40] <TJ-> guacamole_: yes, I know, they actually live (encrypted) in /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private/ which is why I'm checking those; then we can sort things out
[21:40] <leftyfb> czwolf: how big is your root filesystem?
[21:40] <adman120> also why are you not using zfs
[21:40] <guacamole_> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/dq5WiY8P
[21:41] <TJ-> guacamole_: thanks, right, give me a couple of minutes to test the solution here safely, then I'll give you the commands
[21:41] <czwolf> leftyb - 1.4 TB is free ond /dev/sda3 , df says this about root: Filesystem                                                                                      1K-blocks      Used  Available Use% Mounted on
[21:41] <czwolf> /dev/root                                                                                        20026236  18985904          0 100% /
[21:42] <leftyfb> czwolf: df -h /
[21:43] <TJ-> guacamole_: Right. That directory "$HOME/server_music" - do you need to preserve it ?
[21:43] <leftyfb> czwolf: please don't paste more than a line here ... use pastebin or just look up the total space and mention it here
[21:43] <guacamole_> TJ-: No, it was just a mount point for a network share
[21:43] <czwolf> leftyb /dev/root        20G   19G     0 100% /
[21:44] <nacc> so root isn't so large, you can just start seeing what's taking up space, czwolf :)
[21:44] <leftyfb> czwolf: ok, so 20G total
[21:44] <Aelius> Is there an easy way to browse the snap repository?
[21:44] <czwolf> Macc I see ... :/ So there is a chance I cannot enlarge this yes?
[21:45] <Aelius> without searching
[21:45] <leftyfb> czwolf: englargign is not the answer
[21:45] <nacc> czwolf: what leftyb said
[21:45] <nacc> Aelius: #snappy is probably the right place to ask
[21:45] <leftyfb> czwolf: if your roof is leaking, do you just get bigger and more buckets?
[21:46] <czwolf> leftyfb  OK ty, I wil ltry to locate some logs I can delete
[21:46] <leftyfb> czwolf: it might not be logs
[21:47] <leftyfb> czwolf: sudo apt-get install ncdu && sudo ncdu /
[21:47] <czwolf> leftyfb doing ty
[21:48] <TJ-> guacamole_: Good :) let's get started. Simply copy/paste the commands in this pastebin verbatim. the shell will expand $USER to your username (mike). https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G3fB5QJfYq/
[21:49] <lordcirth_work> leftyfb, czwolf ncdu -x will not cross filesystems, you may want that
[21:49] <leftyfb> lordcirth_work: good idea
[21:49] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok, I will have to type them out, but i'll do it now
[21:49] <TJ-> guacamole_: then you can remove that mount point with "sudo rm -r /home/mike/server_music"  ... and then log-in correctly
[21:49] <TJ-> guacamole_: hang on, don't do that, I can make it so you can fetch the file. The PC has network of course?
[21:50] <czwolf> lordcirth_work Thank you!
[21:50] <guacamole_> TJ-: yes it's networked
[21:52] <TJ-> guacamole_: OK: do "cd /tmp/; wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/fix-ecryptfs.sh" then "bash /tmp/fix-ecryptfs.sh"
[21:54] <guacamole_> TJ-: hmm. permission denied on everything, except rm /server_music : No such file or directory
[21:55] <TJ-> guacamole_: really!? is the file-system read-only !? "grep '/ ' /proc/mounts "
[21:55] <TJ-> guacamole_: does that show ro or rw option ?
[21:57] <guacamole_> TJ-: rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
[21:58] <TJ-> guacamole_: hmmm! is /home/ a separate file-system? maybe it's read-only? "grep '/home' /proc/mounts"
[21:59] <mint> hello people, i have a question to my linux mint installation
[21:59] <TJ-> !mint | mint
[22:00] <guacamole_> TJ-: It seems rw... but it is it's own partition
[22:00] <mint> okay but its on ubuntu right?
[22:00] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[22:00] <TJ-> guacamole_: hmmm, let's do some more checking to try to figure out what is going on. Maybe it's out of space? "df -h /home; df -i /home"
[22:01] <mint> its a simple think for you its about partition and so
[22:01] <mead> what app fills the same roll as  "device manager" does in windows?
[22:01] <mint> i will short explain
[22:01] <TJ-> mead: a variety: lspci for PCI devices lsusb for USB, lswh for everything
[22:02] <guacamole_> TJ-: 79% used, 3% used inodes
[22:02] <mead> TJ-: are those accessed in CLI or through the gui?
[22:03] <OerHeks> lshw lspci lsusb lscpu dmidecode
[22:03] <TJ-> guacamole_: so not that. Hmmm, when you ran the script you saw permission denied messages. Can you run it again so it's output is sent to pastebin so I can see? "bash /tmp/fix-ecryptfs.sh |& pastebinit "
[22:04] <TJ-> mead: CLI
[22:05] <guacamole_> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/m9xz7cUS
[22:05] <mint> i have a ruling installation / and /swap on one hd and /home on another one, than the hd from /home crashed, so I changed in another one, I start a linux from dvd and change the fstab entry so now the system is going to the point of user login but than says something about the rights of /home that the user I will login not have the rights, where can I change this?
[22:06] <mead> TJ-: how about a GUI app?
[22:07] <adman120> why does my system show 45gb of ram used when each vm is using less than 4
[22:07] <TJ-> guacamole_: does /home/mike/server_music have something mounted on it right now? "mount | grep music"
[22:08] <TJ-> !ram | adman120
[22:08] <guacamole_> TJ-: yep, it looks like it
[22:08] <TJ-> guacamole_: aaaaahh! can you 'umount' it first and try again
[22:09] <TJ-> guacamole_: and check if something else is actually mount on your /home/mike too - that'd explain why some commands might fail
[22:09] <adman120> bruh why tf is my swap 8gib
[22:10] <guacamole_> TJ-: at umount, it says not mounted.  It is mounted as type fuse.sshfs if that makes any difference
[22:11] <TJ-> guacamole_: ah, so you need to do "fusermount -u /home/mike/server_music"
[22:11] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok i found how to fusermount -u, but no entry found in /etc/mtab
[22:11] <TJ-> guacamole_: you'll need "sudo " prefix there too I guess
[22:11] <TJ-> guacamole_: better show me "pastebinit /proc/mounts"  :)
[22:13] <guacamole_> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/VztAJTtt
[22:14] <TJ-> guacamole_: that looks like you've got an autofs mount on /home/mike as well as the sshfs on /home/mike/server_music
[22:14] <czwolf> leftyfb I think I found that my problem was caused by Docker install, so I should find a way for it how to save data somewhere else - Biggest I have 2.8 GiB [##########] /docker from yesterday and 1.1 GiB [##########]  mail.log.1 which has acumulated during the years. You helped me and some others too, ncdu is pretty handy, thank you!
[22:15] <guacamole_> TJ-: if i disable networking and reboot, will that help?
[22:15] <TJ-> guacamole_: try "sudo umount --lazy /home/mike/server_music && sudo umount --lazy /home/mike && echo YAY"
[22:15] <TJ-> guacamole_: noooo, I need network :D
[22:15] <TJ-> guacamole_: it's my eyes at the moment :p
[22:16] <TJ-> guacamole_: is there a possibility you have some music-player holding open files in /home/mike/server_music ?
[22:16] <guacamole_> TJ-: yes, i suppose that is possible. let me disconnect that server anyway
[22:17] <TJ-> guacamole_: if you do you may leave hanging file-descriptors which block us from fixing it
[22:17] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok
[22:18] <TJ-> guacamole_: lets try stopping the autofs service; is it 16.04 there?
[22:18] <guacamole_> TJ-: yes
[22:20] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok i stopped it
[22:20] <TJ-> guacamole_: let's try this then: "sudo systemctl stop autofs" then check if those mounts have gone with "grep mike /proc/mounts"
[22:20] <TJ-> guacamole_: once you've confirmed the mounts are unmounted you can re-run the script :D
[22:21] <TJ-> guacamole_: might be a good idea to /disable/ the autofs for now since it is the cause of this problem.
[22:21] <TJ-> guacamole_: "sudo systemctl disable autofs"
[22:26] <guacamole_> TJ-: ok! the script printed 'all done' :) can i reboot?
[22:27] <TJ-> guacamole_: no... in the console just log-out and log-in again to test it. "exit" to log-out
[22:28] <TJ-> guacamole_: check your files are there (which confirms the ecryptfs is correctly mounted)... if so, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get the GUI greeter login, and test login there too
[22:28] <guacamole_> TJ-: 'Refusing to mount over an unapproved filesystem type: 0x187'
[22:28] <guacamole_> TJ-: ls shows Access-your-private-data.desktop, and readme.tx
[22:28] <TJ-> guacamole_: urghhh!?!? I've never seen that error before! Are you sure you managed to do the unmounts?
[22:29] <TJ-> guacamole_: "grep mike /proc/mounts" --- anything reported?
[22:29] <guacamole_> TJ-: yes, it looks like the network shares are still mounted
[22:30] <TJ-> guacamole_: darn, let's try ridding ourselves of them again! "sudo fusermount -u /home/mike/server_music" then re-check
[22:30] <TJ-> guacamole_: if that doesn't work try "sudo umount --lazy /home/mike/server_music" and re-check
[22:30] <TJ-> guacamole_: if it's still there some process must be holding a file open
[22:31] <guacamole_> TJ-: failed to unmount /home/mike/server_music: no such file or directory
[22:32] <TJ-> guacamole_: OK, I give in! As long as you've /disabled/ autofs, reboot it to clean things up, then I'm guessing you'll be able to log-in
[22:32] <guacamole_> TJ-: with the lazy, i got 'mountpoint not found'
[22:33] <TJ-> guacamole_: it must have got itself very confused, so reboot that sucker :D
[22:33] <guacamole_> TJ-: rebooting. I really appreciate all your help. it's been a rough week.
[22:35] <Roden> what the f?
[22:35] <Roden> hppoih
[22:36] <guacamole_> TJ-: It worked! Thank you so much. I mean it.  Last night I was so happy, just that I found and decrypted my files, and today you helped me avoid a total reinstall of my system. I hope I can do the same for someone else one day.  Enjoy you day/night :)
[22:36] <TJ-> guacamole_: YAY! glad we got it. Don't allow autofs to mount inside your $HOME as root like that, I suspect that is what broke it.
[22:37] <TJ-> guacamole_: Instead, I recommend you create a directory /mnt/server_music and configure your /etc/fstab to mount it there. /THEN/ from your $HOME you could create a symbolic link to it, as in "ln -s /mnt/server_music $HOME/server_music"
[22:38] <guacamole_> TJ-: good call. I never would have guessed, since my problem started with a system freeze and reisub. it just so happened to be the first reboot since i used those mounts.
[22:43] <Bashing-om> !cookie | TJ-
[22:49] <imi> !Restricted
[22:49] <imi> !Gnash
[22:55] <imi> !flash
[23:01] <frankcab> frankcab: see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NH59PQjMbK/    I tried pasting and running that in terminal as someone suggested.  There was a "permission denied" error.
[23:08] <jeffree> ubuntu17.10, getting some weird UI behavior, single-clicking in the browser often results in the pointer 'dragging' some icon from the page that wasn't even close to where I clicked, hard to describe
[23:08] <jeffree> using gnome and xorg
[23:11] <zteam> Bashing-om, thanks for your time, I managed to fix it
[23:11] <zteam> :)
[23:13] <no_maam> Hi
[23:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Remember the general form needs to be "echo foo | sudo tee -a /root/writeable/file" as otherwise it's still the shell, running as a non root user, trying to write to the file.
[23:13] <Bashing-om> zteam: And for posterity - what is your solution ?
[23:14] <TJ-> Jordan_U: for what?
[23:15] <no_maam> I have a small problem, I used a software that needs firefox 45 on ubuntu 16.04 (xenial) LTS. Now I would like to install a new system and have firefox 45 on that system. However it looks like firefox has been upgraded to 57 or 58 in all repositories.
[23:15] <no_maam> Does anyone know which repositories I have to disable or enable to get the original version of firefox that was shipped?
[23:17] <OerHeks> no_maam, no, you can make a vm of xenial without updates https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[23:17] <OerHeks> thaat gives FF 45
[23:18] <no_maam> OerHeks: OK, so that means just download the iso and cut the network?
[23:18] <TJ-> no_maam: you can download it manually and install it using "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[23:18] <mutante> no_maam reminds me of Al Bundy and Married With Childredn.. flash from the past
[23:19] <no_maam> TJ-: sure, but it also has some dependencies, so getting it with apt would be much more convenient
[23:19] <no_maam> mutante: yep, the nick (and also I) am that old
[23:19] <pinnerup> Does anyone know of a program for Ubuntu or Linux in general that shows which installed fonts support a given unicode range? Like if I want to find out which of my installed fonts support, say, Phoenician?
[23:19] <zteam> Bashing-om, the packages needed for flash seems to be browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash pepperflashplugin-nonfree installing them makes flash useable again :-) I didn't relalize that worker at first, because the plugin doesn't show itself under extentions in chromium
[23:20] <mutante> no_maam: haha, old enough to recognize it :)
[23:21] <Bashing-om> zteam: Yepper, glad to have the confirmation as I did see that as a solution - but I am not able to test and verify .
[23:21] <no_maam> OerHeks: what surprises me is that firefox has been updated even in the normal repository: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/firefox
[23:22] <no_maam> OerHeks: as far as I understand debian and ubuntu, it's supposed to be update only in the backports or -updates repository, but not in the normal one
[23:22] <zteam> Bashing-om, thanks for your time man I really appreicate it :-)
[23:24] <Jordan_U> frankcab: I'll have a working pastebin for you to use in a minute.
[23:24] <frankcab> ok thanks
[23:24] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Sorry, for frankcab. My plan was to immediately make a new pastebin for them but I got taken away by other duties before I could.
[23:25] <frankcab> ok
[23:26] <OerHeks> no_maam, you could try !pinning but that would be a hack to keep such vulnerable browser version
[23:26] <OerHeks> !pinning
[23:28] <Jordan_U> frankcab: Here is a fixed version of TJ-'s instructions. Note that I've only checked the permissions side of things, I don't know enough about alsa configuration to know if that portion is correct (but I assume it is, because TJ- know's what they're doing :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GGCx6CqhDp/
[23:28] <TJ-> Jordan_U: oh, duh! of course - I see what you mean now :D
[23:29] <OerHeks> i wonder of one could update certificates in such old browser
[23:29] <TJ-> Jordan_U: last I saw he's gone off to work... Bashing-om is going to keep an eye open for him returning
[23:29] <Jordan_U> s/know's/knows/
[23:30] <glsmaxx> hello
[23:30]  * Bashing-om keeps an eye out .
[23:30] <TJ-> lol
[23:30] <frankcab> Thanks.  Now I am rebooting to see if it worked.
[23:30] <TJ-> oooo you scared me!
[23:33] <Frankcab> Ran that script you pasted, rebooted, still no sound from speakers
[23:33] <TJ-> Frankcab: so many it didn't take
[23:34] <Frankcab> so many what?
[23:34] <TJ-> Frankcab: or possibly it did, but the sound output isn't correct.
[23:34] <Frankcab> ah
[23:35] <TJ-> Frankcab: need to think of how we can programmatically check which it might be, more research required :)
[23:35] <Frankcab> ok,  thanks
[23:35] <TJ-> Frankcab: we need 2 things: 1) prove that the built-in card 1 is now the default and 2) get some sound out of it
[23:35] <Frankcab> right
[23:38] <OerHeks> alsamixer, f6
[23:38] <TJ-> Frankcab: can you show us "pastebinit <( aplay -L )"
[23:39] <Frankcab> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kpXW247Ptt/
[23:43] <TJ-> Frankcab: try this: "speaker-test -Dfront -l 2 -c 2 -t wav"
[23:43] <Frankcab> "Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory"
[23:44] <TJ-> Frankcab: is it a laptop or desktop PC?
[23:44] <Frankcab> laptop
[23:53] <TJ-> Frankcab: OK, let's do this another way. "sudo apt install pavucontrol" - this is the PulseAudio GUI controller application
[23:53] <Frankcab> it is already installed
[23:54] <TJ-> OK, start it "pavucontrol"  then go to the "Output Devices" tab. I expect you'll see 2 devices, the HDMI and the Built-in, is that correct?
[23:54] <Frankcab> eifhr
[23:54] <Frankcab> right
[23:55] <TJ-> Frankcab: OK, for the "Built-in Audio" look to the right side, there are 3 icons, a speaker, a shield, and a green tick roundal... that last selects the default device. Press it.
[23:55] <Frankcab> built in audio digital stereo hdmi and built in audio analog stereo
[23:55] <Frankcab> they both say built in audio
[23:56] <TJ-> OK, ignore the one with "HDMI" in it
[23:56] <Frankcab> ok
[23:56] <Crusher>  sudo apt install build-essential app <-- not working on my WLS/ubuntu, getting many many 404's
[23:56] <TJ-> Frankcab: test your sound now
[23:56] <Frankcab> right now for port it shows "speakers (unavailable)
[23:56] <TJ-> Frankcab: Great! We finally have a clue
[23:56] <Frankcab> speakers not working, headphone working
[23:57] <TJ-> Frankcab: in the drop down are there any other options?
[23:57] <TJ-> just speakers and headphone ?
[23:57] <Frankcab> hold on
[23:57] <Frankcab> both speakers and headphones not working now
[23:57] <TJ-> Frankcab: :p
[23:57] <TJ-> Frankcab: did te default device change back to the HDMI ?
[23:57] <Frankcab> I see.  If I change port to headphones, then the headphones work
[23:58] <TJ-> Frankcab: go to the "Configuration" tab
[23:58] <Frankcab> looks like the default is the built in analog stereo
[23:58] <Frankcab> I am there
[23:59] <TJ-> For the Built-in audio analogue" try some of the other profiles. "Analogue Stereo Duplex" is the usual one for laptops
[23:59] <Frankcab> it's already analog stereo duplex
[23:59] <TJ-> 'duplex' means it also enables the microphone input as well as speaker output
[23:59] <TJ-> Try some of the others