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Unit193So a typical upgrade will leave volumed and ind-sound installed, I didn't use the upgrader but I still have them installed and in use.00:13
Unit193So what am I supposed to do with this xfpm in ~ ? :300:13
bluesabreUnit193: thought we had something for that, but it was just the templates01:24
bluesabreUnit193: go ahead and upload :)01:25
Unit193bluesabre: We wouldn't want to be changing users config, that's very uncool.01:26
bluesabreUnit193: right, but if we replace the sound indicator package and don't put a sound indicator back in their panel, also uncool01:27
bluesabrebut if the package should stick around, no issues there01:27
Unit193Understandable, that's why we wouldn't add indicator-sound/etc to the upgrader tool to remove.01:27
Unit193Sure, remember the indicator-power times?  We all had to switch back manually. :D01:28
bluesabreas for the gnome-/mate-, are we going to remove? We'll need to update the keyboard binding for the calc01:28
Unit193I'd think that'd be a good idea.01:28
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/18.04.202:03
Unit193http://launchpadlibrarian.net/357968625/xubuntu-artwork_18.04.1_18.04.2.diff.gz heh.02:06
bluesabre:D02:07
bluesabreknome: I did the wp color scheme02:07
bluesabre*dig02:07
Unit193bluesabre: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-edu/debian-edu-artwork.git/tree/art-lines/desktop-base/Makefile.am#n2802:08
bluesabreUnit193: neat02:14
bluesabreseems like that could be handy02:14
Unit193I say that in case we ever actually want to build from source, yeah.02:14
Unit193(I only know it because: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-edu/debian-edu-artwork.git/tree/debian/changelog#n15)02:14
bluesabreUnit193: are you currently packaging the greeter merge? Don't want to step on your work again :)02:14
Unit193Technically, you made me upload my version anyway, soo...  But no sir!02:15
bluesabreoh?02:15
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bluesabreUnit193: vs ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9bVdPXRGbx/, vs debian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QFPnVTMpkc/, look good?03:00
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [bionic] r332 Release and upload 18.04.2 (by Sean Davis)03:06
Unit193bluesabre: Yes, any comments are upstream comments.03:18
FurretUberWhere I can find why a system that upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 crashes on login and returns to lightdm?03:31
Unit193Is this the thing that if you login a few times, eventually it works?  Did you remove .xauthority and ice too?03:32
Unit193!xhangs03:32
ubottuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority03:32
FurretUberNow I removed both03:34
Unit193If it's the one I'm thinking of, it shows the desktop, then flips back.  If you login one or two more times it eventually works. :P03:34
FurretUberI will restart the system03:34
Unit193Restart lightdm.03:34
Unit193sudo systemctl restart lightdm03:34
FurretUberRemoving those files and restarting lightdm didn't work03:35
FurretUberUsing cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log has only one (EE)03:37
FurretUberAIGLX: reverting to software rendering03:38
Unit193There's also logs in /var/log/lightdm/03:39
Unit193You may want to seek help in #ubuntu+103:39
FurretUberThere was a warning that upstart was not found on lightdm-gtk-greeter, and upstart is not installable03:52
bluesabrePushed a new greeter to bionic, taking it's time to show up anywhere, might have gone to the void04:01
bluesabreor lp taking a nap04:01
bluesabreor its this, https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus/status/96616050082743500804:02
bluesabrebed time :)04:02
Unit193bluesabre: Mine went to the void too!04:12
bluesabreUnit193: thanks for the xfpm upload :)10:49
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bluesabreochosi: oh wow, that cursor cannot hide11:23
bluesabreochosi: and yup, gotta have the no compositor fallback11:26
bluesabre(for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypaW7lPm3vI&feature=youtu.be)11:28
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bluesabre!team | I'm thinking about scheduling our next meeting for tomorrow at 23 UTC (see below), will anybody be around?12:06
ubottuI'm thinking about scheduling our next meeting for tomorrow at 23 UTC (see below), will anybody be around?: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19312:06
bluesabrehttps://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Meeting&iso=20180223T23&p1=%3A&ah=112:06
bluesabreUnit193: so based on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAkWhSp-Lpo-g1Vv91APlmr5L_erfarN_45CSxyxrxc/edit?usp=sharing, there's probably not much we can do about fonts without restricting language support, huh?12:25
* Unit193 shrugs.12:26
Unit193I should likely say that time works for me.12:40
Unit193bluesabre: There might be a better way to do it, for example.12:41
knomebluesabre, good good ;)12:44
knometomorrow is likely bad for me with the meeting, but don't let that hold you from running it12:45
ochosibluesabre: yeah, still wondering whether to use xshape or xdraw as fallback13:05
ochosiand i wont be around tomorrow13:05
ochositonight would work13:05
Unit193What'd you end up with?  That's (defineable) key press?13:05
FurretUberHi, I think I've found why the machine I upgraded from Xubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 failed. On the .xsession-errors the last line is:14:26
FurretUber/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start: linha 5: /sbin/upstart: Arquivo ou diretório nao encontrado14:27
FurretUberBasically, upstart was not found14:27
FurretUberIt tried to run /sbin/upstart --user, apparently. 14:29
flocculantbluesabre - time's fine for me tomorrow evening17:37
flocculantknome: nice wallpaper :)17:37
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ochosiUnit193: yeah, i dont really like the idea of hardcoding a shortcut...20:18
ochosiUnit193: i'm still looking into checking whether there's a shortcut defined for it so i can show an infobar or something, but maybe that's not so critical for the 4.12 version20:20
Unit193ochosi: Right, I was thinking rather than the movement tracking style that was proposed.22:35
ochosisry, i don't understand then22:35
ochosithe movement tracking is just a new feature i put in22:35
ochosiin theory it could be optional22:35
ochosior is that even what you dis/like?22:38
Unit193Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, the only specific thing I wouldn't is shaking the mouse to get it.  Key press is ideal. :)22:41
Unit193So, I just simply asked how it was triggered.22:42
Unit193(So thanks for adding it!)  Also in case you didn't see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/1.6.1-0ubuntu122:44
ochosiah22:45
ochosihehe, noo, it's not triggered by mouse-wiggle22:45
ochosiit's a custom keyboard shortcut the user can set22:46
Unit193\o/22:46
ochosii'm not even sure mouse-wiggle is possible to implement properly with X1122:46
Unit193Additionally, it's even easier to see than Windows' version. :D22:47
ochosi:D22:47
ochosiyeah, maybe i'll make the color configurable22:47
ochosinot sure yet22:47
ochosisomeone in the xfce-dev chan said it looks like an 80s computer game explosion22:47
ochosiand ooh, thanks for the upload!22:48
ochosithere were some things i should fix in xfpm, right? appstream stuff..?22:48
Unit193I didn't say you had to fix, it told me, I passed it along, I forgot because I didn't care. ;D22:49
Unit193appstream-metadata-in-legacy-location usr/share/appdata/xfce4-power-manager.appdata.xml22:49
Unit193usr/bin/xfce4-power-manager excuting executing  was the more interesting one.22:50
ochosiheh, ok22:52
ochosii'll check22:52
ochosifirst i'll have to check the screenshooter code22:52
bluesabreevening all23:49
ochosihey bluesabre 23:53
bluesabrehey ochosi 23:53

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