[00:13] So a typical upgrade will leave volumed and ind-sound installed, I didn't use the upgrader but I still have them installed and in use. [00:13] So what am I supposed to do with this xfpm in ~ ? :3 [01:24] Unit193: thought we had something for that, but it was just the templates [01:25] Unit193: go ahead and upload :) [01:26] bluesabre: We wouldn't want to be changing users config, that's very uncool. [01:27] Unit193: right, but if we replace the sound indicator package and don't put a sound indicator back in their panel, also uncool [01:27] but if the package should stick around, no issues there [01:27] Understandable, that's why we wouldn't add indicator-sound/etc to the upgrader tool to remove. [01:28] Sure, remember the indicator-power times? We all had to switch back manually. :D [01:28] as for the gnome-/mate-, are we going to remove? We'll need to update the keyboard binding for the calc [01:28] I'd think that'd be a good idea. [02:03] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/18.04.2 [02:06] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/357968625/xubuntu-artwork_18.04.1_18.04.2.diff.gz heh. [02:07] :D [02:07] knome: I did the wp color scheme [02:07] *dig [02:08] bluesabre: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-edu/debian-edu-artwork.git/tree/art-lines/desktop-base/Makefile.am#n28 [02:14] Unit193: neat [02:14] seems like that could be handy [02:14] I say that in case we ever actually want to build from source, yeah. [02:14] (I only know it because: https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-edu/debian-edu-artwork.git/tree/debian/changelog#n15) [02:14] Unit193: are you currently packaging the greeter merge? Don't want to step on your work again :) [02:15] Technically, you made me upload my version anyway, soo... But no sir! [02:15] oh? === Zren_ is now known as Zren [03:00] Unit193: vs ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9bVdPXRGbx/, vs debian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QFPnVTMpkc/, look good? [03:06] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [bionic] r332 Release and upload 18.04.2 (by Sean Davis) [03:18] bluesabre: Yes, any comments are upstream comments. [03:31] Where I can find why a system that upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 crashes on login and returns to lightdm? [03:32] Is this the thing that if you login a few times, eventually it works? Did you remove .xauthority and ice too? [03:32] !xhangs [03:32] If the GUI hangs after logging in, use to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority [03:34] Now I removed both [03:34] If it's the one I'm thinking of, it shows the desktop, then flips back. If you login one or two more times it eventually works. :P [03:34] I will restart the system [03:34] Restart lightdm. [03:34] sudo systemctl restart lightdm [03:35] Removing those files and restarting lightdm didn't work [03:37] Using cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log has only one (EE) [03:38] AIGLX: reverting to software rendering [03:39] There's also logs in /var/log/lightdm/ [03:39] You may want to seek help in #ubuntu+1 [03:52] There was a warning that upstart was not found on lightdm-gtk-greeter, and upstart is not installable [04:01] Pushed a new greeter to bionic, taking it's time to show up anywhere, might have gone to the void [04:01] or lp taking a nap [04:02] or its this, https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus/status/966160500827435008 [04:02] bed time :) [04:12] bluesabre: Mine went to the void too! [10:49] Unit193: thanks for the xfpm upload :) === alynpost_ is now known as alynpost [11:23] ochosi: oh wow, that cursor cannot hide [11:26] ochosi: and yup, gotta have the no compositor fallback [11:28] (for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypaW7lPm3vI&feature=youtu.be) === SwissBot_ is now known as SwissBot === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [12:06] !team | I'm thinking about scheduling our next meeting for tomorrow at 23 UTC (see below), will anybody be around? [12:06] I'm thinking about scheduling our next meeting for tomorrow at 23 UTC (see below), will anybody be around?: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [12:06] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Meeting&iso=20180223T23&p1=%3A&ah=1 [12:25] Unit193: so based on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oAkWhSp-Lpo-g1Vv91APlmr5L_erfarN_45CSxyxrxc/edit?usp=sharing, there's probably not much we can do about fonts without restricting language support, huh? [12:26] * Unit193 shrugs. [12:40] I should likely say that time works for me. [12:41] bluesabre: There might be a better way to do it, for example. [12:44] bluesabre, good good ;) [12:45] tomorrow is likely bad for me with the meeting, but don't let that hold you from running it [13:05] bluesabre: yeah, still wondering whether to use xshape or xdraw as fallback [13:05] and i wont be around tomorrow [13:05] tonight would work [13:05] What'd you end up with? That's (defineable) key press? [14:26] Hi, I think I've found why the machine I upgraded from Xubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 failed. On the .xsession-errors the last line is: [14:27] /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start: linha 5: /sbin/upstart: Arquivo ou diretório nao encontrado [14:27] Basically, upstart was not found [14:29] It tried to run /sbin/upstart --user, apparently. [17:37] bluesabre - time's fine for me tomorrow evening [17:37] knome: nice wallpaper :) === acheronuk_ is now known as acheronuk [20:18] Unit193: yeah, i dont really like the idea of hardcoding a shortcut... [20:20] Unit193: i'm still looking into checking whether there's a shortcut defined for it so i can show an infobar or something, but maybe that's not so critical for the 4.12 version [22:35] ochosi: Right, I was thinking rather than the movement tracking style that was proposed. [22:35] sry, i don't understand then [22:35] the movement tracking is just a new feature i put in [22:35] in theory it could be optional [22:38] or is that even what you dis/like? [22:41] Don't get me wrong, I like the idea, the only specific thing I wouldn't is shaking the mouse to get it. Key press is ideal. :) [22:42] So, I just simply asked how it was triggered. [22:44] (So thanks for adding it!) Also in case you didn't see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/1.6.1-0ubuntu1 [22:45] ah [22:45] hehe, noo, it's not triggered by mouse-wiggle [22:46] it's a custom keyboard shortcut the user can set [22:46] \o/ [22:46] i'm not even sure mouse-wiggle is possible to implement properly with X11 [22:47] Additionally, it's even easier to see than Windows' version. :D [22:47] :D [22:47] yeah, maybe i'll make the color configurable [22:47] not sure yet [22:47] someone in the xfce-dev chan said it looks like an 80s computer game explosion [22:48] and ooh, thanks for the upload! [22:48] there were some things i should fix in xfpm, right? appstream stuff..? [22:49] I didn't say you had to fix, it told me, I passed it along, I forgot because I didn't care. ;D [22:49] appstream-metadata-in-legacy-location usr/share/appdata/xfce4-power-manager.appdata.xml [22:50] usr/bin/xfce4-power-manager excuting executing was the more interesting one. [22:52] heh, ok [22:52] i'll check [22:52] first i'll have to check the screenshooter code [23:49] evening all [23:53] hey bluesabre [23:53] hey ochosi