[00:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_merger build #1049: SUCCESS in 6 min 31 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_merger/1049/ [00:10] mparillo: <3 [00:10] I see you already did the beta 1 release notes [00:10] just made of a draft of the news story for it [00:10] thank you [00:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ruqola build #106: STILL FAILING in 21 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ruqola/106/ [00:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdenetwork-filesharing build #61: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdenetwork-filesharing/61/ [00:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #87: STILL FAILING in 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/87/ [00:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kdenetwork-filesharing build #21: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kdenetwork-filesharing/21/ [00:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kolourpaint build #57: FAILURE in 1 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kolourpaint/57/ [01:00] My pleasure. [01:01] I should be able to update the screenshots and version numbers in late February / early March. [01:01] that's the thing, it's the 22nd already! [01:01] time marches on [01:01] I do not believe any bugs are tagged with Bionic, but I could be wrong. IIRC, only certain people could do it. [01:01] but we've go the new plasma in the archive so my heart is light [01:02] Beta is early March, correct? [01:02] it drops the 8th [01:02] so it will be testing from the 3rd on or so [01:02] but dinner time now! [01:03] Maybe more of a question for acheronuk, but do you think we will still have Plasma .2 and no substantial upgrades to Apps. [01:03] not sure [01:03] I hope for .2 and hope for upgraded apps [01:03] and a new falkon release! [01:03] Any Day Now [01:04] That is why I was holding off on screen shots and updating theversion numbers in the descriptions. We already have Plasma .2. Santa's iron hand is back and shows it entirely landed. [01:04] coolio [01:04] Did we decide to ship Falkon? [01:04] we're going to ship it if it is ready [01:05] but not make it The Browser [01:05] Lubuntu Next is shipping it [01:05] :P [01:05] nauticalnexus was removed by: nauticalnexus [01:05] it's gotta be released [01:05] anyway, ciao [01:05] Hi Simon. Does Lubuntu Next allow for WEP passwords in its network manager. [01:06] @mparillo, I'm not entirely sure if nm-tray does that. [01:06] It did not last time I tested it. [01:06] i bet it does [01:06] But WEP is insecure and you should upgrade [01:06] Maybe it's a sign XD [01:07] Funny story (maybe -offtopic), but I got a new router that supports a more secure protocol, but when I thought about chagnging maybe 20 devices, including a printer, where you use arrow keys to select the passwords, I said not thanks. In the suburbs I only see maybe three neighbor's wifi anyway, and none have a strong signal. [01:08] arrow keys to select the passwords, character by character! [01:09] In any case, I try to test Lubuntu Next at least once per twice-annual cycle. [01:09] OK, cool [01:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #84: FAILURE in 1 min 8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/84/ [01:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ruqola build #107: STILL FAILING in 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ruqola/107/ [01:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ark build #72: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ark/72/ [01:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ark build #83: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ark/83/ [01:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kalzium build #53: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kalzium/53/ [01:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_peruse build #52: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_peruse/52/ [01:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kalgebra build #85: FAILURE in 1 min 3 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kalgebra/85/ [01:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #81: FAILURE in 1 min 11 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals/81/ [01:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kolf build #80: FAILURE in 2 min 10 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kolf/80/ [01:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_lskat build #84: FAILURE in 2 min 12 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_lskat/84/ [01:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #82: STILL FAILING in 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals/82/ [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kolourpaint build #58: FIXED in 46 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kolourpaint/58/ [01:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ktorrent build #74: FAILURE in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ktorrent/74/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_gwenview build #90: FAILURE in 53 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_gwenview/90/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_amarok build #27: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_amarok/27/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_discover build #87: FAILURE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_discover/87/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_konqueror build #40: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_konqueror/40/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kblog build #30: FAILURE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kblog/30/ [01:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kstars build #79: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kstars/79/ [01:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_gwenview build #91: STILL FAILING in 56 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_gwenview/91/ [02:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_cantor build #85: NOW UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_cantor/85/ [02:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_purpose build #84: STILL FAILING in 57 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_purpose/84/ [02:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_lskat build #85: FIXED in 22 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_lskat/85/ [02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kolf build #81: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kolf/81/ [02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kalgebra build #86: FIXED in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kalgebra/86/ [02:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #88: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 14 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/88/ [02:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libksysguard build #51: FAILURE in 1 min 10 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libksysguard/51/ [02:03] Wow, 18.04 is shaping up quite nicely well ahead of beta! [02:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_breeze build #84: FAILURE in 1 min 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_breeze/84/ [02:05] I agree :D [02:08] upgrading my travel laptop next week as part of testing [02:08] :-) [02:08] :D [02:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libksysguard build #52: STILL FAILING in 57 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libksysguard/52/ [02:10] 4.15 kernel, libinput 1.10, plasma 5.12.2, fw 5.43, xorg 1.19.6 [02:12] Not to forget.... apps 17.12.2 [02:12] yes [02:12] are we up-to-date on appls that aren't part of kdeapps? [02:13] vlc is v. 3.0 :) [02:13] which apps did you have in mind? [02:14] not sure what's in and what's out [02:14] repos have wine-64 dev v. 3.3 [02:15] vlc isn't a KDE application at all [02:15] But we have it by default... [02:15] buddies, but not us [02:15] yes [02:15] how about sddm? [02:15] isn't there a new version lately? [02:15] Funny enough, I'm working on that right now [02:15] that's why I put a smiley face. [02:15] coolio [02:16] We have 0.14 in Ubuntu, 0.15 in Debian, and I'm working on 0.17 now for both. [02:16] sddm is still 0.14... [02:16] Right [02:16] \o/ [02:16] ^what simon said [02:16] :) [02:17] Do you think you will have 0.17 ready before beta? [02:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_ktorrent build #75: FIXED in 27 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_ktorrent/75/ [02:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_discover build #88: STILL FAILING in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_discover/88/ [02:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kreport build #23: FAILURE in 1 min 2 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kreport/23/ [02:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kblog build #31: STILL FAILING in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kblog/31/ [02:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_cantor build #52: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_cantor/52/ [02:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_syndication build #76: FAILURE in 1 min 1 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_syndication/76/ [02:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_syndication build #77: STILL FAILING in 1 min 0 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_syndication/77/ [02:26] Do you dl sddm straight from github to start the packaging (https://github.com/sddm/sddm/) ? [02:26] @DarinMiller, Oh yeah, should be no issue [02:27] @DarinMiller, No, I use the existing package, bump the changelog, use uscan to grab the new tar from GitHub, then try to run it through sbuild and tackle issues from there. [02:27] i.e. sometimes quilt patches need updating [02:27] Sometimes Lintian starts whining [02:27] makes sense. [02:27] etc. [02:27] sddm has a lintian dep? [02:27] All packages are ran through Lintian [02:28] Lintian is not something to depend on, really [02:28] Oh, OK. [02:28] It's a tool to check your package [02:28] Right [02:28] :) [02:29] I knew "dep" was the wrong word, but I thought Lintian was the language checker portion of packaging tools.... googling.... [02:30] https://lintian.debian.org/ [02:30] Oh, lintian does many things.... [02:30] Right :) [02:30] yep, that's zactly where good took me... [02:30] google [02:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_breeze build #85: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_breeze/85/ [02:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kcontacts build #78: STILL FAILING in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kcontacts/78/ [02:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kmailtransport build #57: FAILURE in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kmailtransport/57/ [02:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libkipi build #84: FAILURE in 1 min 1 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libkipi/84/ [02:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit build #66: FAILURE in 1 min 8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit/66/ [02:37] new pulseaudio (v 1.11) fixes the audio auto switch crash (as promised in the bug report last fall). [02:39] As far as I can tell, this release has very few papercuts. In fact, I can't think of any for the Xorg side. [02:39] do we have this in a PPA somewhere? [02:39] On the wayland side.... that's another (longer) story, but it is nearly usable. :) [02:40] ppa? [02:40] so it could be easily tested [02:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_purpose build #85: STILL FAILING in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_purpose/85/ [02:40] sorry, I don't understand what needs tested. [02:40] the new pulseaudio [02:40] sddm ppa? [02:41] 18.04 has pa v 1.11 already in the repos. [02:41] Right [02:41] ah, OK [02:41] All of what he's saying valorie is already there :) [02:41] cool, I didn't understand that [02:42] That's the excitement, all of this stable stuff is landing before beta! [02:43] that is indeed different from the past [02:43] at least since I've been involved [02:43] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit build #67: STILL FAILING in 55 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit/67/ [02:45] I have been using *buntu since 7.10 and this is release is incredibly awesome--the best by far. [02:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_kreport build #24: FIXED in 26 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_kreport/24/ [03:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kcontacts build #79: STILL FAILING in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kcontacts/79/ [03:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [03:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kmailtransport build #58: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kmailtransport/58/ [03:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [03:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_libkipi build #85: FIXED in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_libkipi/85/ === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [03:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kwin build #92: FAILURE in 1 min 9 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwin/92/ [03:15] \o/ [03:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_krita build #77: STILL UNSTABLE in 3 hr 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_krita/77/ [03:39] is krunner K-runner or crun-ner? [03:39] I say k runner in my head [03:40] but my fingers say alt space [03:40] :-) [03:40] same I've always said k runner but never bothred to ask before lol [03:41] otoh I say koo buntu [03:41] while some say K ubuntu [03:41] @DarinMiller, I agree this is great thus far. I am so excited to see I have actually contributed to a distro release. . . weird I havent done that before for Kubuntu [03:42] it's great to have you on the team, @MichaelTun [03:42] @valorie, it should be koo-boon-too, just makes sense. Xubuntu and Lubuntu are done the same way [03:42] agreed [03:42] @valorie, You also say Daybian so idk ;) [03:42] @tsimonq2, fair enough lol [03:42] I say deb ian [03:43] 'cause it was deb and ian [03:43] RIP Ian [03:44] deb-ian and debian sound so similar that even if said with a slight pause it still works [03:44] and yea rip ian [03:44] @valorie, Nonono … You say DAY bien … Emphasis on the A in the middle :P [03:44] :D [03:44] and you say? [03:44] RIP Ian [03:44] dehb [03:44] Dehb ee an [03:45] well, that's how Deb is said [03:45] short sound e [03:45] fight! [03:45] lol [03:45] Lol [03:45] I am confused do you say dayborah? [03:45] nope [03:45] lo; [03:45] l [03:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kxmlrpcclient build #60: FAILURE in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kxmlrpcclient/60/ [03:46] can IRC get voice clips? [03:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #133: STILL FAILING in 44 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/133/ [03:46] (Voice, 2s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qbiAtwnE/file_4872.oga [03:47] not directly [03:47] but via matrix or telegram, yeah [03:47] worked [03:48] (Voice, 1s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/NFtvPFRg/file_4873.oga [03:50] that's how I saw it too, at least in my imagination.... [03:50] (Voice, 4s)https://irc-attachments.kde.org/eATzN2ej/file_4874.oga [03:53] same, but not with the accent! [03:55] The accent might be weird from me as well :) [04:01] the KDE documentation is so weird sometimes, for example: [04:01] KWin (pronounced "kwin" in one word) [04:01] that is not helpful because k-win or qwin are both 1 word. [04:02] yup -- I say quin [04:03] Whaaat [04:03] I say Kay Win [04:03] it is KDE's windowing system [04:04] so you are probably more correct on that [04:07] xD [04:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kxmlrpcclient build #61: STILL FAILING in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kxmlrpcclient/61/ [04:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kjs build #78: FAILURE in 1 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kjs/78/ [04:13] I say k-win but I think Riddell says quin but I might be imagining that [04:14] Martin says quin [04:14] and since he's the maintainer, I just copied him [04:20] martin was the original dev right? I suppose that answers it then [04:22] not sure if he was the original maintainer or not, but I met him a loooong time ago [04:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_messagelib build #134: STILL FAILING in 31 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_messagelib/134/ [04:23] oh ok [04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [04:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kwin build #93: FIXED in 1 hr 6 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kwin/93/ [04:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [04:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kjs build #79: FIXED in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kjs/79/ [05:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_sonnet build #62: FAILURE in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_sonnet/62/ [05:32] Kdenlive announced a Cafe . . . a few hours before doing it. That marketing is so stellar [05:33] Hah I noticed that too [05:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [05:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_sonnet build #63: FIXED in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_sonnet/63/ === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [08:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-framework build #71: FAILURE in 1 min 19 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-framework/71/ [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_konqueror build #139: FIXED in 36 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_konqueror/139/ [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_konqueror build #133: FIXED in 37 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_konqueror/133/ [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [08:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_konqueror build #51: FIXED in 37 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_konqueror/51/ [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_konqueror build #41: FIXED in 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_konqueror/41/ [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_konqueror build #249: FIXED in 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_konqueror/249/ [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-framework build #72: FIXED in 40 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-framework/72/ [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [09:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_konqueror build #109: FIXED in 41 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_konqueror/109/ [09:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kbookmarks build #55: FAILURE in 1 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kbookmarks/55/ [10:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kbookmarks build #56: STILL FAILING in 58 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kbookmarks/56/ [10:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kirigami2 build #76: FAILURE in 1 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kirigami2/76/ [10:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kirigami2 build #77: FIXED in 23 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kirigami2/77/ [10:39] @nggraham @MichaelTun https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-desktop.git/commit/?id=b2588104cc562a0500b32c186aa11a6b8affddc4 [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #83: FIXED in 31 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_ktp-common-internals/83/ [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit build #68: FIXED in 33 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kpimtextedit/68/ [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_syndication build #78: FIXED in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_syndication/78/ [10:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_gwenview build #92: STILL FAILING in 32 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_gwenview/92/ [11:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_gwenview build #93: STILL FAILING in 31 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_gwenview/93/ [12:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2078: SUCCESS in 53 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2078/ [12:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2078: SUCCESS in 1 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2078/ [12:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2078: SUCCESS in 3 min 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2078/ [12:28] plasma is very slow since this morning update [12:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [12:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_kbookmarks build #57: FIXED in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_kbookmarks/57/ [14:08] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #91: FAILURE in 1 min 31 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/91/ [14:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #92: STILL FAILING in 1 min 7 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/92/ [14:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #93: STILL FAILING in 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/93/ [14:16] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #94: STILL FAILING in 31 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/94/ [14:21] yofel: linode seems to be the main culprit for failing on adding the PPA. racy condition as it is just very fast? [14:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_plasma-desktop build #223: FAILURE in 3 min 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_plasma-desktop/223/ [14:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop build #345: STILL FAILING in 3 min 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop/345/ [14:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-desktop build #229: FAILURE in 5 min 8 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-desktop/229/ [14:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_plasma-desktop build #158: STILL FAILING in 5 min 54 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_plasma-desktop/158/ [14:24] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FcfcNTqJ/file_4889.webp [14:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop build #346: STILL FAILING in 3 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_plasma-desktop/346/ [14:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_stable_plasma-desktop build #224: STILL FAILING in 3 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_stable_plasma-desktop/224/ [14:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project artful_unstable_plasma-desktop build #230: STILL FAILING in 3 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/artful_unstable_plasma-desktop/230/ [14:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_plasma-desktop build #159: STILL FAILING in 3 min 41 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_plasma-desktop/159/ [15:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop build #95: NOW UNSTABLE in 1 hr 2 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_plasma-desktop/95/ [15:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2079: SUCCESS in 46 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2079/ [15:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2079: SUCCESS in 1 min 5 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2079/ [15:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2079: SUCCESS in 3 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2079/ [16:50] hm maybe... but speed wise I would assume that master would also fail on occasion [16:50] I'll look into it later [16:51] I was slightly clutching at straws there [16:51] thanks [17:41] Neon has added Qt 5.10 [17:42] @MichaelTun, Yes [18:04] aaand… guess what, it's bad [18:11] Huh? [18:14] @acheronuk Are these Phonon releases something we should pick up? [18:27] @tsimonq2, Possibly === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [18:48] Nice. Looks like building against the new mesa and/or libglvnd in proposed has screwed our desktop opengl rendering [18:49] now we default to llvmpipe on intel [18:49] ick [18:50] acheronuk: I don't think that is happening on my system. How are you checking? [18:50] if you purge libglvnd0 and libegl you get full opengl back [18:51] @mamarley, Live system on kabylake [18:51] renders only with llvmpipe [18:52] glxinfo | grep renderer [18:52] remove those and you get it back (losing kinfocentre which oddly now depends on them) [18:52] I see "OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 530 (Skylake GT2)" in glxinfo on this bionic-proposed system. [18:53] mamarly it could well be -release only, caused by building against proposed [18:53] blaze. yep, that is how I checked. [18:54] Ah, yes, that sounds correct. [18:54] also have several reports from users of bionic of the same. [18:57] It is probably worth reporting in #ubuntu-x. [19:00] just doing [19:59] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Xenial 16.04.4] (20180223.1) has been added [19:59] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Xenial 16.04.4] (20180223.1) has been added [20:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kinfocenter build #478: STILL FAILING in 3 min 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kinfocenter/478/ [20:15] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kinfocenter build #62: STILL FAILING in 5 min 44 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kinfocenter/62/ [20:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kinfocenter build #479: STILL FAILING in 4 min 32 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kinfocenter/479/ [20:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_stable_kinfocenter build #63: STILL FAILING in 4 min 33 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kinfocenter/63/ [20:50] [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'S.gpg-agent.ssh' [20:50] kind of good thing: I can reproduce it. bad thing: that error really doesn't tell much about that's wrong -_- [20:50] hm, could also be LXC interfering.. [21:12] * yofel wonders why apt is doing everything in /tmp these days [21:14] @nggraham https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/1.10.4-1ubuntu2 [21:33] c'est magnifique [21:34] lets hope it really works! [21:35] seriously [21:35] I'll be able to test sometime this weekend, if nobody beats me to it [21:35] with default settings, it only manifests in the live session, not during an actual install [21:36] I can try on the latop I just borrowed to test that opengl issue as well [21:37] I had the bug on today's iso, so that is a good comparison :) [21:38] So this isn't limited to Kubuntu, but it's a major papercut: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1639863 [21:38] Launchpad bug 1639863 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox and Thunderbird don't appear in the (new) appstream metadata" [Undecided,In progress] [21:38] because of this, Firefox and Thunderbird don't show up in KDE Discover [21:40] wow. that sat dorment for a bit! [21:40] yes, sadly [21:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1447144 [21:43] Launchpad bug 1447144 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config forgets to update /etc/sddm.conf" [High,Triaged] [21:43] I REALLY want to get that sorted! [21:48] props to you two for getting this stuff DONE [21:49] While we're at it, if you open Discover on Kubuntu (any version), you'll notice that the app icons are all ugly and pixellated. This is apparently a packaging issue, but in Neon, they're crisp and sharp. I don't know what Neon is doing differently, but we might want to copy it, if possible. Might wanna ask Jonathan Riddell or Harald Sitter? [21:55] they are indeed pixely [21:55] in artful [21:56] yeah, hideous [21:57] it's a really poor user experience, but apparently it's possible to somehow change because every single icon in KDE Neon is pretty, and that's based on 16.04 and I'm pretty sure they didn't re-package *everything* [21:57] hm, this really seems to be a race condition of some sort [21:59] software-properties creates a keyring in a temporary folder, gnupg launches an agent to manage it, software-properties tries to delete the folder to clean up after itself... and fails, leaving a random set of files behind, e.g. the dirmngr socket etc. [22:09] any ideas about those icons acheronuk, simon, or yofel [22:09] nate -- they literally DO repackage everything, even if they use our packaging [22:10] all built by machine, basically [22:10] oh hmm [22:11] for example see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370350 [22:11] KDE bug 370350 in discover "Pixelated sometimes outdated icons for apps" [Wishlist,Resolved: downstream] [22:12] but somehow we are using the small icon and blowing them up or something instead of using the bigger version? [22:12] and https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388253 [22:12] hm, could be that we don't ship the appropriate size by default? I don't think we split that these days, but we did in the past [22:12] KDE bug 388253 in discover "App icons affected by rendering bug in list views" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] [22:12] I doubt that optipng would be messing with the quality.. [22:12] @valorie, Exactly, the Ubuntu packaging provides small icons, and in Discover we display them larger then that, so they get blown up and pixellated [22:13] sounds like a packaging bug then [22:13] yes, but for every single package [22:13] perhaps we're not pulling in the proper SVGs [22:13] somewhere along the line [22:13] it seems to be a systemic issue or a policy decision or something [22:14] let me install discover...... [22:15] the Plasma 5.12 version is getting better, in case you hated it before [22:15] yeah, I rage-uninstalled it some 2 years ago [22:17] I'm on a mission to make it not suck [22:18] nate++ [22:18] because having a good software center is really important [22:18] in one year, you will love it [22:18] hopefully by now, you at least no longer hate it, and are only merely annoyed by it :) [22:18] Check out https://pointieststick.wordpress.com/category/discover/ [22:18] (just published this week's post) [22:21] we inherited this from debian: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/tree/debian/extra/60plasma-discover?h=kubuntu_bionic_archive [22:21] but it should be fetching hi and low res [22:21] that looks right.. [22:21] though not sure ppa builds generate them [22:22] hmm, I can confirm that they look bad even without using the Backports PPA [22:22] the bug report has gedit as example, so I don't think the PPA matters here [22:26] wow, the icons are so crisp and clear in your blogpost, nate [22:26] now I really see what you mean [22:26] yeah, all my screenshots are from Neon [22:26] getting this fixed for the LTS would be Good [22:27] (I do my dev work in a Neon VM) [22:28] ouch, this really looks horrible [22:28] sitter, sgclark, Riddell -- any of you recall what you did differently for icons in neon than you used to do in Kubuntu? [22:28] yeah, and people blame Discover :( [22:28] *headscratch* [22:28] did they just suddenly go bad? [22:28]