[00:27] Oh finally https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/05a0b26e256a7fc45836ce69e43e439850d5dcce [00:28] Good news also for electron apps then! [01:01] robert_ancell: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7zcvkt/atom_snap_doesnt_work/duny7sp [01:01] Got a 16.04 system handy? [01:02] Looks like people have issues launching classic snaps from gs [03:55] popey, looks like a regression in snapd - it's no longer reporting the .desktop file to GNOME Software. This means G-S assumes it's a command line app and launches it that way. For some reason, that doesn't make it start. [03:58] popey, oh, maybe not a regression - it shows the .desktop file for spotify to me, but not for skype [04:05] popey, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-not-returning-desktop-file-for-skype === user8394 is now known as user8393 [06:52] And gitlab died [07:17] good morning desktoppers [07:17] and happy Friday [07:48] oSoMoN, let's see how much apparmor anger arises :( === Beret- is now known as Beret [08:38] ricotz, it's not that bad so far, just a few users with non-default partition layouts [08:40] oSoMoN, shouldn't this cause those to be non-fatal errors? https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/tree/patches/apparmor-complain.diff?h=ubuntu-bionic-6.0 [08:41] oSoMoN, regarding the other apparmor patches, they are in master [08:43] oSoMoN, so backporting apparmor-complain.diff would be an option [08:43] g2g [08:45] good morning desktopers [08:46] salut seb128, ça va? [08:46] Salut seb128 oSoMoN and all [08:46] salut jibel [08:48] lut oSoMoN jibel [08:50] oSoMoN, ouais, et toi ? already friday, which is good (w.e!) but less good at the same time (still lot of features backlog that didn't move as I wish they had this week, getting close from ff now) [08:51] seb128, I'm good but tired, it's been a hectic week [08:53] indeed :/ [08:57] morning all [08:58] mvo, if you have any insight into https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-not-returning-desktop-file-for-skype please please comment there [08:59] robert_ancell: good morning! let me look, sorry, did made it so far yet :) [09:00] hey willcooke, happy friday [09:06] Morning willcooke, seb128, oSoMoN, jibel, robert_ancell... [09:06] hi duflu [09:07] seb128, I was able to modify the touchpad GUI nicely to display a message, but then got more ambitious and wondered if I could make it *work* instead. Now banging my head against mutter, again [09:07] good morning willcooke [09:07] good afternoon duflu [09:07] bye all! [09:07] robert_ancell: replied [09:07] robert_ancell: and good night [09:07] hey duflu [09:07] mvo, thanks! [09:07] hi robert_ancell bye robert_ancell [09:07] duflu, like making g-c-c configure synaptic? [09:07] robert_ancell: tl;dr packaging bug, trivial to fix [09:08] have a good week-end robert_ancell [09:08] seb128, yes it's simple in theory. I'm just missing something small [09:08] duflu, I doubt upstream would accept that, GNOME like to make opiniated choices on techs and stick to their line [09:08] mvo, awesome. I think there's a bunch of those and hopefully popey and flexiondotorg can go out and help fix them. [09:08] seb128, I did agree... until I saw how small and simple it is [09:08] robert_ancell: yeah, I think we need to improve our tooling for better guidance on these [09:09] duflu, well, I predict Bastien is going to tell us to go away that they are not going to accept a commit for that, but maybe I'm wrong [09:10] seb128, this is a matter of easier to seek forgiveness than to ask permission. I think it will be nice enough that he either won't say that, and/or we can patch it trivially [09:10] duflu, ok, good luck :) [09:10] ricotz, backporting apparmor-complain.diff would be an option, yes, but I'm not sure what the point is of having apparmor profiles if they are not strictly enforced [09:11] I'd rather have them enforced by default, and provide guidance to people on how to disable them if they really need it [09:11] I'll ask the security team what their opinion is [09:12] that seems fixed! [09:12] happy friday! [09:14] hi Laney [09:14] hi oSoMoN [09:16] moin willcooke [09:19] wow, for the firstr time since I proposed that chage, I opened an XML file and it opened in gedit and not Firefox. Much rejoicing [09:19] *change [09:19] good morning Laney [09:21] Laney, happy friday to you too! [09:26] jibel, hey, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubiquity/default-enable-downloads/+merge/337967 ? it should be trivial to review [09:27] seb128, I will [09:28] jibel, thx [10:00] seb128, yeah OK I've got some GUI settings working now with synaptics, and a tiny diff. But it's also Friday evening. Will finish next week [10:03] duflu, nice, enjoy your w.e! [10:04] o/ [10:11] hey Nafallo, happy friday [10:24] seb128: headache at the moment, but there's still hope ;-). how are you? [10:28] https://github.com/canonical-websites/snapcraft.io/issues/334 :) :) bug of the day :) [10:30] ha [10:51] French Guyana! It's totally a part of France [10:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana [11:01] Right, but it's not called "France" is it? :) [11:03] popey, it is a department of France, and you won't name all the department of France on the map, will you? [11:05] department=guiana, region=guiana, country=France [11:06] and continent=south america [11:06] Geography lessons :) [11:06] Ok. [11:06] yq :) [11:06] yw :) [11:07] Just looked odd given no other map I looked at had "France" on it. I guess there's not enough room there for the actual name [11:07] seb128, I cannot fully test your change. Bionic keeps freezing in a VM [11:08] but looks good and download updates is checked by default [11:09] popey, https://snapcraft.io/skype has France [11:09] no i mean gmaps, bing maps etc [11:09] ah ok [11:11] popey, but you're right, it's odd and it would make sense to write French Guiana, same for other overseas department, it's just the title of the report is incorrect [11:22] andyrock, hey, you got a link handy for the upstream MR for g-o-a [11:25] I always thought that place was called something like "Brazil"? [11:27] ah. I didn't see the tiny little border there :-P [11:28] oSoMoN, ok, so this needs some discussion, while of course 6.0 in bionic will only complain [11:30] Trevinho, didrocks linked to this bug as the date alignment fix https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/3 [11:30] Trevinho, is that the right link? [11:34] Willcooke I've the patch ready but not yet proposed. Waiting for today meeting before proposing it [11:34] andyrock, ack, thx [11:46] oSoMoN, do you think we should distro patch HW accel video in to Cr? [11:46] Upstrea, seems to be stuck in a circle [11:50] good morning [11:51] morning jbicha [12:09] we love you Laney [12:09] hey snookums [12:13] jibel, thanks for testing [12:13] willcooke, no, it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/12 [12:19] thanks seb128 [12:20] willcooke: mh, no... exaclty as seb said :) [12:20] :) [12:23] hey Trevinho, how are you? [12:23] seb128: hey, good... you? [12:23] Trevinho, too busy but good otherwise :) [12:23] nice :) [12:25] Trevinho, got a nautilus patch for me? ;) [12:25] seb128: I'm preparing the 1st one right now [12:26] Trevinho, \o/ [12:26] willcooke, yes, I'll do that [12:26] oSoMoN, nice one thanks [12:27] the patch currently applies on the dev branch, so it won't reach a stable release near you before ~ 10 weeks [12:27] oSoMoN, ack [12:27] but we should have it in time for 18.04 [12:28] and as it's an optional feature that's behind a flag and off by default, the risk is rather low [12:51] kenvandine, seb128 : another build of LO 6.0.1 is ready for upload at https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-6.0.1/bionic/0ubuntu3/ , can one of you sponsor it? [12:52] oSoMoN, I can do [12:52] (tested in https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+archive/ubuntu/lo-test/+packages, it builds and autopkgtests pass locally, fingers crossed that no other transition in the archive will bork it again) [12:52] seb128, thanks! [12:52] I hope I don't shot myself in the foot by doing so, I'm waiting for launchpad translations imports for days now but apparently libreoffice DoS the importer job :/ [12:55] is there a bug about bionic not booting on intel hw with an external monitor attached? [12:58] jibel, there was one about not booting without external power on certain hardware, but I've not yet seen one about monitors [12:59] okay, submitting one [13:04] bug 1751268 [13:04] bug 1751268 in linux (Ubuntu) "bionic desktop does not boot with external monitor attached - [drm:ironlake_crtc_enable [i915]] *ERROR* mode set failed: pipe A stuck / vblank wait timed out on crtc 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751268 [13:05] well, as long as it's the kernel and not us :) [13:08] hmm. removed gnome-calculator from desktop-recommends. which one is the preferred one these days then? :-) [13:12] snap gnome-calculator? [13:13] not sure we're at the stage where we'll replace apt packages with snap yet, surely? [13:13] Nafallo: you'll need to install the gnome-3-26-1604 snap first for it to work [13:13] Nafallo: yes, we are [13:14] we're not replacing *everything* with snaps [13:14] woha. wasn't expecting that for the LTS. okay then... [13:19] jbicha: Where do I propose fix for unity patches for empathy?.....https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/empathy/ubuntu does not contain any patches and has not been updated. [13:22] k_alam: it's updated now [13:23] jbicha: That was quick! Thanks. [13:32] oSoMoN, this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1751005 is because folk are running the ppa|pre release right? [13:32] Ubuntu bug 1751005 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice cannot open a document not within $HOME" [Undecided,Opinion] [13:42] willcooke, no [13:43] this basically apparmor working, while libreoffice in bionic (6.0) run in complain-mode, the artful (5.4) is in enforcing-mode [13:49] willcooke, yeah, what Rico said, LO has had apparmor profiles for quite some time but they were broken, we have fixed them and now they work as intended, a little too well maybe [13:50] I want to discuss this with the security team [13:50] in 6.0 the profiles are in complain mode, but I personally don't think that's a good solution, it kind of makes them useless [13:51] thx oSoMoN ricotz [14:00] oSoMoN, willcooke, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=886548 [14:00] Debian bug 886548 in libreoffice-common "libreoffice-common: Try to ship all AppArmor profiles in enforce mode" [Wishlist,Open] [14:00] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=884747 [14:00] Debian bug 884747 in libreoffice "fails to start when .config is a symlink, error message about permissions (apparmor)" [Normal,Fixed] [14:04] ricotz, Jamie suggests shipping the profiles as they are, but disabled by default [14:05] so I'll work on a patch and will request a SRU to artful asap, to try and curb all that negative feedback we're getting [14:06] oSoMoN, +1, artful is hit hard here [14:06] I will update the 5.4.5 backports too [14:06] cool [14:07] I'm preparing the patch now [14:08] seb128, thanks for the LO upload! [14:08] yw! [14:34] wah, -proposed isn't installable atm [14:34] guess I'll have to just let livecd-rootfs migrate and see what happens [14:35] wonder if xnox will still love me then [14:36] haha [14:36] Laney, do it like we did it back in the good old days without proposed-migration [14:36] * xnox is feeling retro today [14:37] force hint you mean? [14:37] use my ubuntu-release membership to copy directly to the release pocket ;-) [14:38] * Laney will be nice and let mwhudson's upload migrate first [14:38] 🤠 [14:39] I did briefly consider making the official builds use my PPA too [14:39] * Laney yeehaw [15:34] ricotz, FYI see last two commits in https://code.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+git/libreoffice-debian-pkg/+ref/ubuntu-artful-5.4 [15:37] oSoMoN, ok, fwiw "git commit --ammend" [15:42] fixed [15:57] oSoMoN, ok [15:57] oSoMoN, better use "dch -e" so you are not touching the timeline everytime [15:57] "dch -r" does eventually [15:59] seb128, jbicha: gnome-todo.pot was not imported by LP, but I just uploaded it manually. Not sure it was a good idea, since LP since to be in a bad shape and should better be looked into. [16:00] GunnarHj, shrug :/ [16:01] GunnarHj, no it was not, it would be nice if you asked on IRC before next time, I've been talking to Colin since yesterday about those import issues and doing uploads as you might have noticed [16:02] GunnarHj, the launchpad importer was stucked after a server reboot and not is hitting timeout/long delay on libreoffice translations which are in the queue [16:03] seb128: Ok, sorry about that. For that particular package the imports worked last time, but there were only .po files, no template. [16:03] GunnarHj, right, because the package was not generating one, which your fix (that I sponsored) is resolving [16:04] GunnarHj, the new package should result in a successful import once the launchpad job is done hitting libreoffice [16:04] GunnarHj, same for gtk+3.0 and gnome-sudoku btw, just wait those should autoresolve [16:05] seb128: That sounds promising. [16:06] GunnarHj, btw I reviewed the queue and accepted a bunch of template that were waiting, gcc-8 lshw, webkit2gtk, gnutls28, orca so those should have translations enabled now (or when the import is done) [16:07] ibus-libpinyin [16:08] seb128: Is the common denominator that they are new packages in main? [16:08] the recent ones on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+imports?field.filter_status=IMPORTED&field.filter_extension=pot [16:08] GunnarHj, well I was reviewing https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+imports?field.filter_status=NEEDS_REVIEW&field.filter_extension=pot [16:08] but yeah, it wouldn't import things from universe [16:08] unless translations are enable by the debian/control key [16:09] they are some more obvious things in needs review but I don't have the free slots to investigate those now [16:10] seb128: Talking about debian/control, any chance you can add that line in Debian git for fcitx? [16:10] no, I'm not part of that package set [16:10] try asking happyaron [16:11] Ok. [16:11] * happyaron patches welcomed [16:12] my pgp subkey was expired, so giving me a patch will make sure I can remember it when I regain the upload permission [16:12] happyaron: Hi Aron! [16:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fcitx/+bug/1749673/comments/7 [16:13] Ubuntu bug 1749673 in fcitx (Ubuntu) "Fcitx translation to Catalan not imported" [Medium,In progress] [16:14] GunnarHj: mind to send it to Debian as well? let's keep it delta clean [16:15] hey happyaron, how are you? ;-) [16:15] happyaron: That patch is intended for Debian. I was hoping that someone just could commit it there. ;) [16:16] seb128: hey good, but super busy by moving home this week, haha [16:16] happyaron, moving city as well? [16:16] GunnarHj: I'd prefer to track it at Debian BTS, LP is about a bit too noisy... [16:16] seb128: nope, still at BJ [16:16] k [16:17] happyaron, have fun moving! [16:17] seb128: :D [16:18] happyaron: Are you saying that you want a Debian bug to add a single line which is useful for Ubuntu only? [16:18] yes, for tracking purpose [16:18] submit it as wishlist is not an abuse to Debian BTS [16:21] happyaron: Sure, I can do that if you insist. Not much to track, though. All that needs to say is already in the patch comment. [16:21] if you have the change applied locally you can run 'submittodebian' to help you submit it [16:22] Laney: Would that result in a pull request? [16:22] GunnarHj: if you use salsas.d.o, a pull request might also work, ;-) [16:22] it'll make a bug report [16:22] with a debdiff [16:22] Laney: hey man how are you [16:23] if you've checked out git then you can make a merge request easily too :-) [16:23] hey happyaron [16:23] I'm doing alright thanks! [16:23] looking forward to the weekend [16:23] happyaron: Then a pull request it will be. ;) [16:23] what about you? [16:24] all packed up? [16:25] Laney: almost, will move this Sunday [16:26] good luck [16:27] I always forget to tell some company my new details [16:27] GunnarHj: libgweather switched to meson. As you might remember, it's an odd package because it has two pot files [16:28] the locations pot file generation is a bit buggy, I opened LP: #1751261 today (see the upstream bug) [16:28] Launchpad bug 1751261 in libgweather "libgweather-locations.pot generation fails with bionic meson" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751261 [16:28] does this look ok? https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/libgweather/commit/e4af319b [16:29] it creates po-locations/locations.pot do you think we need to rename that pot or maybe it's ok now? [16:43] gQuigs, hey, do you think you would have some free slot to make a patch for the network-manager autopkgtest issue since you seem to understand the problem? [16:46] oSoMoN, please finalize the 6.0 branch [16:46] oSoMoN, I will take a look at the we to prepare it for 6.0.2 [16:48] seb128: ideally, someone who cares more about the urfill use case would review to make sure my analysis makes sense, but sure I can make a patch for my suggestion [16:49] gQuigs, we don't seem to have anyone matching that description and meanwhile that update is stucked, that would be nice, thanks! [16:49] ricotz, ok [16:50] oSoMoN, will cherry-pick the orcus stuff for 6.0.2, which officially lands in 6.0.3 [16:52] oSoMoN, so please don't forget to push the 6.0 branch [16:52] ricotz, done, the branch is all yours over the we- [16:52] w-e * [16:52] gQuigs: thanks :) [16:53] oSoMoN, did you test the apparmor disabling patch? [16:53] oSoMoN, I am not an expert in touch conffiles in /etc [16:54] but I thought there are special debhelper ways for that [16:54] ricotz, it's currently building in my lo-test PPA, will test as soon as it's built [16:55] ricotz, I had the patch reviewed by Jamie from the security team though, so I'm fairly confident that it will work [16:55] alrighty then [16:56] * oSoMoN logs out to try and reproduce a bug in the GNOME session [17:21] I'm off to doing beers, have a great week-end everyone! [17:56] oki, bandwidth all gone, nearly 6pm, I think it's time to give up for the week. Have a good weekend all! [17:57] jbicha: Any chance you can fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793764 ? [17:57] Gnome bug 793764 in general "Typo in po/es.po" [Major,New] [17:58] sudoku or to-do ? ;) [17:59] jbicha: todo this time [17:59] I'll take care of it and close the bug [17:59] jbicha: Thanks! [18:00] feel free to complain at Daniel though [18:00] I've probably fixed that a dozen or more times across GNOME… [18:00] it's a gtranslator bug but maybe he should pay attention too :) [18:02] jbicha: Who is Daniel? Is there a bug report anywhere where I can add an angry comment? ;) [18:03] Daniel is at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-todo/commit/124c798d [18:04] gtranslator bug is GNOME bug 771765 [18:04] Gnome bug 771765 in Parse engine "Problem with 80 character lines and header comments" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771765 [18:05] jbicha: Ah, the translator who caused it. Yeah, he should know about it, but it's low priority right now. [18:08] that particular mistake was a few years old, but it wasn't noticed in LP because the package only entered main now [18:10] jbicha: Starting to understand. And only now I noticed that I files the bug against the wrong project. :( Thanks for fixing it! [18:11] gnome-todo uses gitlab.gnome.org for bugs now [18:11] jbicha: I started with trying to create an account there, but there was some server issue... [18:16] jbicha: Just a late thought: You committed that directly to git master, right? Is there a risk that the erroneous file is still in damned lies, and that the problem will re-appear? === user8394 is now known as user8393 === CrazyMelon is now known as CrazyLemon === Dmitrii-Sh_ is now known as Dmitrii-Sh === andyrock_ is now known as andyrock === siel_ is now known as siel [19:16] seb128: jbicha, still trying to test it properly, but something like this - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YtcfQJSqYn/ [19:16] not sure if it really needed a debdiff/changelog... [19:37] test complete /me likes autopkgtest command, that made it pretty easy === chiluk_ is now known as chiluk === user8394 is now known as user8393 [20:50] gQuigs, thanks, I've called it a day for today but I put that on my todo to review [20:56] gQuigs: does NM pass all of its autopkgtest with that patch? [20:57] jbicha: I ran autokpkgtests against the source.. which I think means yes [20:57] ok, I'll go ahead and land it. 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