[00:00] IEC958 won't work, that's SPDIF stuff [00:00] switched to analog stereo output [00:00] still no speakers [00:00] hold the phone [00:01] when I change it, as soon as I switch to another window, it goes back to analog stereo duplex [00:01] Frankcab: OK, I think this may be a bug in the drivers. There's a concept called pin-control, where the audio chip has to be configured to route audio correctly. It used to be common problem but last few years has mostly been resolved. I'm thinking your PC may be affected. What make/model is the PC? [00:01] ok, it changes when I remove the headphones [00:01] tried the other settings with headphones removed = still no sound [00:02] Frankcab: ahhhh... of course, with headphones in it disables the speakers too, usually [00:02] Frankcab: does the Output tab still show "speakers (unavailable)" ? [00:02] yes [00:04] now with no headphones in that should not be the case, so there's definitely a bug there. In a terminal run "alsamixer", make sure you've got the built-in analogue" device selected, then see if there is any mixer control for headphone detection. These vary by chipset so I can't be sure what you might see === gr33n7007h is now known as al2o3-cr [00:05] No, when I plug in the headphones it shows headphones [00:06] Frankcab: and pavucontrol still shows speakers unavailable without headphones in ? [00:06] Its still there, but it doesn't switch from headphones when I unplug headphones [00:07] I can switch to it manually [00:07] Frankcab: what does "dmesg | grep DMI" show? [00:07] the little bar below that shows the sound level shows the sound level even with speakers unavailable selected [00:08] there's a lot of info, how can I show it to you? [00:08] you should only see one line [00:08] Frankcab: how about "dmesg | pastebinit" [00:08] 6 entries...two lines each [00:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g6FB2vycYR/ [00:11] Frankcab: line 750 onwards is the interesting bit, it shows how the sound device is configuring [00:11] ok [00:13] The DMI line I was after is 59 "DMI: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion 15 Notebook PC /2293, BIOS F.36 02/02/2015" [00:15] OK, but what does that tell you? [00:16] It lets me search for the specific model, and therefore chipset, to locate any other reports or bugs [00:17] ok [00:20] Frankcab: interesting; this can affect Windows too, and could be a hardware issue. If it is, the HP recommended workaround is: Shutdown PC, remove Battery, press and hold the power button for 30 seconds, reinsert battery, restart, test. [00:20] I have done that multiple times, but I can try it again [00:21] I will return [00:21] Frankcab: OK if that didn't solve it don't try again, but it points to another possibilty [00:25] I followed those instructions - still no sound from spakers [00:26] frankcab: OK, as you'd already tried it I didn't think we'd be in luck. Let's try something seeminly silly. Suspend the laptop (sleep), give it a few seconds, then wake it up and check in pavucontrol + test speakers [00:27] frankcab: I'm suspecting a firmware ACPI issue and sometimes sleep/resume will kick it [00:27] ok [00:33] yooo - has anyone found a solution to the issue w/ Ubuntu 17 and OpenVPN not leaking DNS? [00:33] er with it leaking DNS, I mean [00:35] what is the command for the sound manager? [00:37] well, anyway, speakers still not working [00:37] pavucontrol [00:38] Frankcab: I can't find any indications of linux bugs affecting that audio device so far [00:38] ok [00:41] monokrome: there is not "Ubuntu 17", there was 17.04 and there is 17.10 [00:42] monokrome: is the issue you're discussing documjented somewhere? [00:44] Frankcab: one last test before we have to call it a night. disable pulseaudio and do another speaker test: "systemctl --user mask pulseaudio.socket" then "puluseaudio --kill" then "speaker-test -D front -l 2 -c 2 -t wav" [00:45] Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory [00:47] Frankcab: drat, still that. OK, one long-shot which sometimes solves these weird issues but I'm not sure will for you, but is worth trying: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [00:55] No change [01:04] frankcab: drat! Well at least we now know it's likely a firmware issue in the PC. I've seen many reports similar to yours, but no decent solutions, especially for Linux. [01:04] thanks for trying [01:05] The HDMI output being the default wasn't helping to begin with either, that was a misleading trail [01:05] This is, however, why I've always stayed away from Linux and Ubuntu. I've always said it's an operating system for people who want to tinker. [01:05] howdy [01:05] I'm thinking about buying this to install Ubuntu on. https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Stream-14-Jet-Black-Laptop-Windows-10-Home-Office-365-Personal-1-year-included-Intel-Celeron-N3060-Processor-4GB-RAM-32GB-eMMC-Storage/197424692 [01:05] frankcab: it's not really Linux's fault that firmware is proprietary :) [01:05] Is this thing completely compatible? [01:06] CountryfiedLinux: you should check the certification page(s0 [01:06] I agree [01:06] frankcab: it's not that; the problem is the manufacturers only target Windows and do Windows specific workarounds that only the Windows drivers implement, and don't publish that information [01:06] but it's the way the world is. [01:06] frankcab: well, it's a choice you make buy buying from specific vendors [01:06] frankcab: there are many vendors that do support linux and ensure their hardware does [01:06] Understood, but that means it's easier, in the current economy and system, to work with Windows [01:07] frankcab: i don't think anyone claimed otherwise; i find windows impossible to use, though. So not easier for me. [01:07] What Ubuntu supporting vendor makes a laptop with the features I want - where can I get a list? [01:07] frankcab: if it's any consolation, I'm sure if I sat down with that PC I could fix it, but it's very difficult remotely to use intuition - it's like not being able to read body lanfuage [01:07] frankcab: check the hardware certification pages [01:07] TJ, I know that. You have tried...I appreciate it. [01:07] frankcab: i don't know what your requirements are, etc. [01:08] nacc, The HP Stream 11 is on there but not the 14. [01:08] 8th gen processor, SSD, Backlit keyboard, 15.6 full HD, Bluetooth, Wireless AC [01:09] frankcab: bluetooth is always hit or miss with onboard controllers (ime) [01:09] frankcab: but all the others should be feasible [01:10] CountryfiedLinux: there seems to be some google hits for people installing it on the 14 [01:10] CountryfiedLinux: but i have no real idea [01:10] This is the laptop I will buy when I get the refund for the other one: Acer Aspire E 15, 15.6" Full HD, 8th Gen Intel Core i5-8250U, GeForce MX150, 8GB RAM Memory, 256GB SSD, E5-576G-5762 [01:10] ok nacc thanks [01:11] 599 on amazon [01:11] CountryfiedLinux: there might be a hw cert channel, or a question to ask [01:11] where is this compatible list located? [01:11] !mainline | frankcab: it could be worth trying the latest mainline kernel in case it helps. [01:11] frankcab: it could be worth trying the latest mainline kernel in case it helps.: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [01:11] frankcab, consumer-grade plastic fantasic [01:11] pretty decent though [01:11] frankcab: dunno much about that specific vendor, but nvidia can be problematic for some [01:11] frankcab: if you want to try that I have a shell script to automate the download and install at http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh [01:11] Its perfect for me [01:12] I think I will give up on this...just listen through the headphones [01:12] frankcab, don't say that until you've tried a dell xps or thinkpad (not ideapad) [01:12] frankcab: keep in mind, no one is forcing you to use ubuntu :) [01:12] I didn't say they were [01:12] I tried it because I have read now it's easy, it works well, etc. [01:13] It's still like it was 20+ years ago - right back to terminal commands [01:13] frankcab: what didn't work for you? bluetooth headphones? [01:13] on board speakers [01:13] they work when booting from USB stick, but not when boot from install on computer. If I right click in a certain spot on the screen, the speakers work. [01:14] frankcab: seems more surprising those didn't work, you could file a bug [01:14] I did [01:14] frankcab: oooo just found someone else with your exact model. give me chance to read up on it [01:14] frankcab: link? [01:14] I have no idea how to find the link [01:14] frankcab: you filed a bug and don't know where the link is? [01:14] frankcab: how did you file the bug? [01:14] correct [01:15] frankcab: that's interesting; I didn't know that. If the installer worked but installed doesn't the biggest difference is the kernel versions. I think the installer is on kernel 4.4 but your install is upgraded to 4.13 [01:15] TJ-: yep, could also test by booting the installer to the hwe kernel [01:15] it's an option in the first menu [01:16] filed on launchpad [01:16] and/or installing the base kernel from the installed system [01:16] frankcab: by hand? [01:16] No, there was some wizard like thing [01:16] ah, apport [01:16] I think I launched it from terminal [01:17] oh ubuntu-bug ? [01:17] right [01:17] frankcab: does the PC still have the 4.4 kernel as a boot option? if so, have you tried booting from it? "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" [01:17] do you remember what you filed it again (ubuntu-bug ... ) ? [01:17] I have no idea what kernel it boots [01:17] I don't see options...it just boots when I turn it on [01:17] I used ubuntu-bug, I remember that [01:18] frankcab: it's booted 4.13 now, but if, as the system starts you tap Escape repeatedly, you'll get the GRUB boot menu. There you choose Advanced sub-menu, then the first of the linux 4.4.x entries [01:18] ok [01:18] I will now try that [01:18] frankcab: if that works we know there's a regression and can work on it [01:18] ok [01:20] This grub is open, but what do I enter there to boot with a different kernel? [01:22] never mind [01:22] I have the lowest number is 4.10.0 - 28 generic recovery mode [01:22] is that the one I should boot? [01:24] Frank_: no sign of a 4.4 ? [01:24] no [01:24] Frank_: in which case go for the lowest number, but the default, not recovery [01:24] 4.10 recovery mode is the lowest number [01:24] ok [01:25] recovery is a special mode, you want the normal mode which is usually listed before recovery [01:25] yes it is booting now [01:25] Frank_: nacc I've just been looking at the changes to the realtek sound driver between v4.4..v4.13 .. 113 commits [01:26] ok [01:26] now it isn't booting [01:27] Frank_: what are you seeing? you can tap the Escape key to get rid of the splash screen to reveal messages usually [01:27] black screen [01:28] Frank_: Hmm, OK, let's not worry. reboot it into the normal kernel [01:28] I did [01:29] Frank_: best we just re-install the 4.4 kernel which we know has worked [01:29] that's it for now, I have work to do [01:29] but I appreciate your help [01:29] Frank_: next time you come in, ask how to reinstall the 4.4 kernel for 16.04 (it's something like "sudo apt install linux-image-generic" I think :) [01:29] ok [01:30] thanks [01:30] Frank_: then you can test it the way you just tried with 4.10... and it ought to boot :D [01:30] right [01:33] That's got to be the most frustrating bug I've ever seen!! [01:34] I'm still puzzled by how the speakers work if he right-clicks and holds the mouse button above the speaker icon in the taskbar! [01:34] Are there any ports that should be blocked, from hackers and etc, on linux? I.E Ubuntu, I know some ports like SMB 445 on Windows and etc should be blocked. Is there anything on Ubuntu that should be blocked So no one can gain access to the computer through a network? [01:35] Or that wouldn't be already defaulted closed by the OS [01:36] ExploitedKernel: generally there's nothing listening unless you install a service, we have a factoid about it but I can't find it ! [01:37] So basically, as long as ur not installed unknown services and etc, I should be fine. because Linux I know is kind of less of a risk than windows malware [01:37] but for sure there is still some [01:38] ello [01:38] anyone here? [01:41] switching from gentoo.... If i want a minimal installation... no desktop enviroment but I do want x11... do i use the ubuntu server? [01:42] Why do I not see aclocal in Ubuntu 16? [01:48] !minimal | dman777 [01:48] dman777: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:49] ycyclist: what do you mean? it's in automake [01:50] I am trying to set up inotifywait to run a script every time I add a file to a directory but Im confused [01:50] inotifywait [-hcmrq] [-e ] [-t ] [--format ] [--timefmt ] [ ... ] <-- is the script I want to run or the directory I want to monitor? [01:52] MWM: the object it is monitoring [01:54] Fair enough. Then where do I specify what action to take when the event triggers? (i.e running a script when a file is added to the monitored directory) [01:55] hello [01:57] MWM: you don't, not in the way you're thinking. it simply reports the action and exits, unless you use "-m" monitor mode in which case it keeps running [02:00] MWM: you'd do something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BT7qBZxB3Q/ [02:01] That must be why all the examples I could find included it in a script. A script to run a scriipt. Genius :D [02:03] MWM: you might find the 'iwatch' tool useful [02:04] !info inoticoming | MWM also this might be useful [02:04] MWM also this might be useful: inoticoming (source: inoticoming): trigger actions when files hit an incoming directory. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.3-1 (artful), package size 14 kB, installed size 68 kB (Only available for linux-any) [02:04] definately going to check iwatch. thank you [02:05] now when I read that script you pasted, my understandin is that I would "myfunc()" is a variable and the curly braces are defining that variable? [02:06] shit he left [02:07] Thanks again then guys :D === Expl0itedKernel is now known as ExploitedKernel === lynn_ is now known as gryphon === anonymous is now known as Guest65825 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:37] is the minimal cd installation supposed to be here https://www.ubuntu.com/download? [02:37] im not finding it [02:44] dman777, network installer is under alternative downloads, and that has a mini.iso somewhere. but if you already have linux / a bootloader, you can also grab the netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/{linux,initrd}, it does not get any more minimal than that === cheeseboy is now known as fundies [02:50] frostschutz: thanks [02:50] dman777: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems . [02:52] dman777, debootstrap would be another alternative. especially if you want the install itself to be minimal, not the installer-medium [02:54] is xenial the latest lts? [02:55] sup [02:56] dman777: Yes, 16.04 . next up as a LTS is 18.04 . [02:56] when does 18.04 get released? [02:57] 4/18 dman777 [02:58] kk...thanks [02:58] discussion in #ubuntu+1 [02:58] welcome [02:58] dman777: releasess .. year/month // as in xenial 16.04 was released in 2016 in the month of April (04) .. and 18.04 wil be released in April of 2018 . [03:20] hey. i'm getting awful speed from ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntiu-ports xenial-updates/main armhf and i can't figure out wh [03:20] y [03:20] how do i setup reverse dns? [03:23] you setup a regular dns, then turn it around [03:24] j/k. hey what's the latest ubuntu 16.04 kernel? [03:24] 4.14 i think [03:24] i'm using 16.04 [03:25] I think you want dnsmasq ? what are you trying to accomplish with reverse dns? you mean for a website or caching local requests? [03:31] fullstack just for my irc hostname [03:31] i might launch a website too [03:31] What dns server are you running [03:32] idk ima newbie [03:32] I have a problem in the latest Ubuntu version. Games I play always go to wrong monitor after I minimize them [03:32] Have to move them back after each time I open the window again [03:32] Well pick a dns server you want to use, then google "PTR record *Yourdnssoftware* [03:33] ty [03:33] Bind is a good choice [03:33] bind is a dns server? [03:33] Yeah, i think ubuntu calls it bind9 now [03:33] k thanks [03:36] how can I configure ubuntu to monitor the line / mic in and have the audio sent out of the speakers? [03:36] ciata: I guess I should mention that reverse DNS follows the IP address, so if you don't own the IP(like you are renting a VPS) They'll have to set it up on their end [03:52] опоссум весьма осторожен. [03:53] !ru | tunasalad [03:53] tunasalad: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [03:53] живёт на деревьях, падла! [03:53] I most certainly will. [03:54] do possums live on them trees? [03:56] I mean do they really; we got none [03:56] tunasalad: not ontopic for this channel [03:57] nacc: what am I supposed to do, ask you how to apt-update? [03:57] tunasalad: this is the support channel. If you don't have a support topic, there is no need to ask anything [03:57] tunasalad: perhaps you want #ubuntu-offtopic [03:58] that suits me fine, thank you. [03:58] I have a ubuntu16.04/win7 dual boot, and was in windows when my screen went black (backlight on) and after rebooting the computer shows a list of boot options but stopped letting me choose (goes immediately to ubuntu) shows a purple screen, then hangs on a black screen. Can anyone give me any ideas of what that would be and what to do [03:59] same with a reboot? [04:00] only when booting windows? [04:01] also odly when booting if I press f1 to load the bios it flashes the bios for a second then goes black [04:01] oddly* [04:02] is that a recently new laptop? [04:02] I guess something's fucked up your uefi [04:02] tunasalad: asking me? no it is somewhat older [04:02] which shouldn't be an issue [04:02] yes, you [04:03] so you can't get into bios either [04:03] no [04:03] guarantee still on? [04:03] remove the hdd/sdd [04:04] maybe better luck with #laptop/#notebook [04:04] ok [04:04] they know all the codes. but I'd go the warranty way [04:05] if you can't even boot into bios, it's usually bad news. [04:05] tunasalad: could you not [04:05] i can get to a grub screen that stays up [04:06] is there an OS behind it? [04:06] grub is a bootloader [04:07] its prior to loading the os by pressing e [04:07] which will boot whatever it's pointed to [04:07] it's post-bios, anyway [04:07] if you can't enter bios, it's a warranty case [04:09] find your laptop designation, find our latest bios, download it into your flash drive, flash it through your bious [04:09] *bios [04:09] *out [04:09] don't be daft === sysfault_ is now known as sysfault [04:10] then copy-paste the loading mumbo-jombo into #linux [04:10] install AMDGPU-PRO [04:10] which linux was that again [04:11] go ahead; what have you got to lose [04:11] unless there's $2mln n bitcoins [04:14] Женщина арендовала жилье за секс и извинилась перед владельцем за отказ [04:15] fuck me sideways [04:17] tunasalad: please mind your language in here === francisco is now known as Guest41712 [05:08] how can I configure ubuntu audio coming in an the the line / mic in to be sent out the speakers the speakers? [05:09] !sound | mead tryed these steps? [05:09] mead tryed these steps?: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [05:13] ubottu: I don't see an option in the volume applet that will do it. where are these "hardware" settings? [05:13] mead: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:14] mead: you could try pavucontrol or alsamixer [05:14] i was following an old pptp tutorial for 12 but im on 16.04. i can't get the pptp vpn to work, and i think it's because the instructions are outdated. it told me to edit /etc/rc.local but the file didn't exist. [05:15] any help would be greatly appreciated [05:15] !vpn | ciata can this help? [05:15] ciata can this help?: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN [05:18] I've scoured every setting in pavucontrol, no luck. I'll investigate alsamixer [05:22] alsamixer... hitting F1 for help is not helpful === anonymous is now known as Guest56137 [05:26] not sure how alsamixer could be helpful at this point [05:28] mead: wich ubuntu version is this? [05:29] xubuntu 16.04.04. [05:34] mead: and you dont have audio settings of any kind or sound in control center? [05:36] mead: perhaps also check if you can add mixer to your panel? [05:40] lotuspsychje: control center? where do I find that? [05:44] lotuspsychje: I don't see any thing about adding a mixer in pulse volume control [05:50] while downloading draftsight permission denied [05:51] how to fix this problem while downloading draftsight permission denied [05:54] How can I install vala-panel on Ubuntu 16.04 [05:55] its only available in 17.10 and 18.04 beta [05:55] how to fix this while downloading draftsight permission denied [05:56] how to fix this while downloading draftsight permission denied [06:05] I give up, gonna figure it out tomarrow [06:12] mead: there is also #xubuntu if you want [06:13] Curi0: is that panel a gnome extension? [06:13] lotuspsychje, no [06:13] it doesn't require a de [06:15] Curi0: well i guess its added with a ppa's so perhaps you might wanna ask the maintainer? [06:15] lotuspsychje, i dont think theres a ppa for it [06:16] Curi0: http://www.webupd8.org/2017/02/alternative-global-menu-for-mate-and.html [06:16] Curi0: just keep in mind we dont reccomend adding external ppa's [06:17] HI [06:18] when i am trying to boot from pendrive its booting into old linux installed :( [06:18] so i went to window and deleted the linux volume [06:19] and now when trying to boot from live ubuntu pendrive its going to grub :( [06:19] any help is appreciated [06:25] lotuspsychje, thats only appmenu not vala-panel [06:27] Curi0: https://launchpad.net/~rilian-la-te/+archive/ubuntu/vala-panel [06:27] howdy [06:27] !usb | shanky [06:27] shanky: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [06:27] lotuspsychje, thats from 2015 and doesn't have packages for 16.04 [06:28] I think this new HP Stream 14 has a Broadcom wifi chip? It doesn't show wireless networks. Will this be a problem? [06:28] where would I get the X11 dev kit from? [06:28] Curi0: as i said, we dont reccomend ppa's here mate so neither support [06:29] Crusher: you can search packages with apt-cache search keyword-here [06:29] thank you! [06:32] ubottu: but when i have created the live pendrive using other linux system but when booting its not loading live cd why? [06:32] shanky: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:34] ubottu: lol [06:47] hi all was hoping someone can suggest the best format to partition a drive i intend to use only for storage i want be able to access it from windows or from linux and some files on it will be over 4 gigis [06:48] 1TB [06:48] Hi! Do i need a program for let's say using HDMI from the pc to tv? [06:49] no [06:49] Or a specific driver installed? [06:49] ok [06:49] OOTB? [06:49] doubt it as long as pc laptop is visible in my experience no [06:49] Okay [06:50] head to settings and make sure the monitor you want to use is active though [06:50] crackhead, i got NTFS on my storage driver. I'm on Ubuntu right now === pumba_ is now known as pumba [06:51] Windows doesn't like ext1-4 filesystems i think [06:51] is it simple or dynamic extended or logical please [06:52] someone else gets to answer that. i Don't know [06:52] dam [06:53] can anyone inform of the teminal commands to find out that info please [06:53] Linux lords pls help [06:53] Hello is there an official page with listed ubuntu consultants per region/country? === crackhead is now known as Nutzo [06:55] when booting from live pendrive its booting to old linux [06:55] Hello, I'm wondering if there exists a good open-source, cross-platform (Windows and Linux) chat/communication system. We have a mixed environment with linux and windows client-computers. It would be nice to have some chat program for sending snippets of text, screenshots, and maybe some smaller files between persons. [06:55] when booting from live pendrive its booting to old linux [06:57] Nutzo: There’s also exfat. [06:57] foo357: how about irc? or mattermost? [06:59] Triffid_Hunter: Spontaneously I would think that irc is a bit too technical for the average user, and how well is the support for sending images and files? Without knowing all too much, I would guess images/files are a bit complicated in irc? [07:00] foo357: so go with mattermost.. it's an open source slack clone [07:01] foo357: irc does have file transfer but it's a bit clunky [07:02] Triffid_Hunter: I will check out Mattermost, I have no previous knowledge about it. (well I don't know much about chat systems/programs in general) [07:02] Triffid_Hunter: thanks for the suggestions, any other alternatives? [07:03] foo357, appear.in [07:04] How do I find out what wireless card I have? [07:04] lsusb or lspci should tell [07:05] ok thanks Triffid_Hunter [07:05] Realtec Semiconductor Corp. [07:05] Now what? [07:06] AppArmor blocks access to all files which are not in my home dir. Why? How can I change this? [07:06] realtek rts5229 [07:11] yang2: we have channels per language, wich language are you looking for? [07:13] Which is the latest version of Ubuntu that runs SystemV init and not systemd or upstart? [07:15] lotuspsychje, I know about IRC language channels, so there is no official consultants page with listings? [07:16] hi [07:16] clear [07:17] !loco | yang2 can this help [07:17] yang2 can this help: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/ [07:19] !systemd | b3h3m0th [07:19] b3h3m0th: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units [07:19] Triffid_Hunter: Do you know of Rocket Chat? It seems pretty good, comparable to Mattermost. [07:21] I'll just return this laptop later. [07:27] lotuspsychje: So 14.10is the latest version of Ubuntu with the /etc/inittab file? [07:28] b3h3m0th: was the last yes [07:29] it used upstart, though [07:29] I run 17.10. I cannot adjust volume on either the keyboard or headset. Both worked well on Mint. Any suggestions? [07:32] lotuspsychje ok that loco page is good, but its not exactly ubuntu consultants page, thank you [07:46] hello. i'm trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 17.10. i'm running do-release-upgrade but it's telling me no new release found.. i do lsb_release -a .. it says 16.04. what could be the issue? [07:46] No LSB modules are available. [07:47] !eolupgrade | krad [07:47] krad: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [07:48] krad: you also need to set prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [07:53] sp === f11f12 is now known as Guest27541 === matthiaskrgr is now known as Guest36747 [08:33] hi === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [08:33] my friends, I installed KDE and later remove it, but now I have the Kubuntu splash screen and I would like to go back to Ubuntu splash screen. === Guest36747 is now known as matth1askrgr [08:38] hi all, I'm looking for some help with a drive that's locked to read after i mapped it in win10 === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [08:39] Emma: I had a USB that got nuked by windows too, ended up tossing it and buying a new one [08:40] !!!! [08:40] :( I've over 800 GB on there [08:41] aa [08:41] hi [08:42] @Triffid_Hunter, I've bought another HD to install, although I need a cable & some clips to fit it in my box... was hoping I could save this one without having to copy all from it and format it though [08:43] is there a way I can de-map the drive from win10 and allow it to be written to in ubuntu? [08:43] Emma: oh a spinning rust disk? probably windows just did something weird to the FS and you need to scandisk from windows or something [08:44] haha yeah, OS's are on there own SSD's [08:45] @Triffid_Hunter, windows says the drive is ok, I can read & write to it from there [08:45] emma: no idea then, what does dmesg say in linux about it? [08:46]