| bluesabre | I'd like to announce tomorrow's meeting, but the Ubuntu Wiki won't login without timing out | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | There we go | 00:10 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: got any items for the meeting to add to the agenda? | 00:14 |
| bluesabre | Probably going to add a few things tonight | 00:15 |
| ochosi | hmm | 00:15 |
| ochosi | well there's the find-cursor thing you know about | 00:15 |
| ochosi | that i would really like to push in | 00:15 |
| ochosi | via a new settings release | 00:15 |
| ochosi | or if not in time for FF, we could put it in as a patch and i then do a release a little later and we get that in more easily afer FF | 00:15 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: once you get it ready, I'll merge and release | 00:22 |
| ochosi | almost there | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | great | 00:23 |
| ochosi | just some small fixes for the non-composited version missing | 00:23 |
| ochosi | feel free to test | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | I'll probably try to merge in some other recent fixes from 4.13 too | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | have a good night! | 00:23 |
| ochosi | yup | 00:23 |
| ochosi | you too! | 00:23 |
| bluesabre | Updated the meeting wiki page with latest updates I'm familiar with | 02:46 |
| Unit193 | Got the recent uploads? | 02:50 |
| knome | flocculant, ta :) | 14:26 |
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| pleia2 | dev.xubuntu.org is hard to reach at the moment, known issue https://status.linode.com/ | 18:40 |
| pleia2 | (seems to be better now) | 18:56 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 22:40 |
| flocculant | hi bluesabre | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | !team | Xubuntu Community Meeting in 20 minutes | 22:40 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu Community Meeting in 20 minutes: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | hi flocculant | 22:41 |
| flocculant | good day? | 22:41 |
| bluesabre | that's currently up in the air | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | may need to leave the meeting early | 22:42 |
| flocculant | oh dear | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: refreshed my manifest diff for today's iso https://wiki.bluesabre.org/bionic_changes | 22:43 |
| flocculant | that's a handy list | 22:44 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | once I figure out how to nicely automate that (and improve on dokuwiki's poor table sorting) that page should stay up to date | 22:45 |
| flocculant | not sure what the crack is with bug 1644917 - ochosi believes it's long fixed ... it's not ;) just one of those visual things but ... | 22:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1644917 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "Label missing from indicator-plugin clear option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644917 | 22:46 |
| flocculant | right - that'd be even handier :p | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | The other day I saw it actually show the label correctly, and then didn't | 22:47 |
| flocculant | I've not seen it | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | http://archive.unit193.net/debian/bionic/xfce4-indicator-plugin_2.3.3-1vanir1_amd64.deb you could try that. | 22:47 |
| flocculant | ever tbh - one of those things I don't do so wouldn't, but now I look every time I see that bug | 22:48 |
| flocculant | ugh | 22:48 |
| flocculant | gdebi just silently fails now apparently | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | that's pleasant | 22:49 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: yea - but ubuntu don't care about it I guess | 22:49 |
| flocculant | Unit193: yea - that one doesn't even give me to option to cancel or whatever is under the invisible label - it just went right ahead and cleared them :D | 22:52 |
| Unit193 | That's Bionic+a few commits | 22:53 |
| flocculant | well one of the commits makes it jfdi then :D | 22:54 |
| Unit193 | - Make sure the "clear indicators" dialog works with libxfce4ui-4.13.x | 22:57 |
| flocculant | :) | 22:59 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | Alrighty! | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting | 23:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Fri Feb 23 23:01:39 2018 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 23:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | !team | Meeeeeeting time :) | 23:01 |
| ubottu | Meeeeeeting time :): team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | Who's around? | 23:02 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 23:02 |
| flocculant | yup | 23:02 |
| bluesabre | yay | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | o/ | 23:02 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:02 |
| bluesabre | We'll let the others roll in for a few | 23:03 |
| flocculant | hopeful then :p | 23:03 |
| bluesabre | I try to be | 23:03 |
| flocculant | I used to be like that | 23:03 |
| slickymaster | lol | 23:04 |
| bluesabre | That and I was wrapping up dinner | 23:04 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | Now we'll start | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | #topic Open action items | 23:05 |
| slickymaster | that almost sounded as if you made a burrito out of your dinner bluesabre | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: not a bad idea | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | #done bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6 | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | (thanks Unit193) | 23:05 |
| flocculant | :) | 23:06 |
| bluesabre | #info postponed for bionic+1: bluesabre to reach out to pidgin devs regarding system themes | 23:06 |
| bluesabre | Fairly certain that | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | #done flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | happened | 23:07 |
| flocculant | ye | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | #topic Updates and Announcements | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | #info Xubuntu Wallpaper Contest Open | 23:07 |
| pleia2 | #link https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/ | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | nice | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | #info Xubuntu 18.04 Default Wallpaper Uploaded | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | (looks fancy) | 23:08 |
| pleia2 | need some submissions that aren't flowers :) | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | Or more flowers | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | and rocks | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | (ochosi) | 23:08 |
| genii | Are most of them photos so far? | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | (submissions are public) | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view | 23:09 |
| flocculant | thought the rock one was the same as one from that site he liked last time | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | not sure | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | there was a request on social media for more original art ones, not just photos | 23:10 |
| genii | I tried to do a watercolour thing in Gimp but it looks more like a blurry ball of rainbows | 23:10 |
| Unit193 | Tell them we'd gladly accept such contribution? | 23:11 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: "patches welcome" is not as friendly as you think it is ;) | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | #info lots of package updates since the beginning of bionic, a few recent ones: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.6, xubuntu-icon-theme 18.04.1, catfish 1.4.4, lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.4, menulibre 2.1.5, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.1, xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1 | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | pleia2: yes, every time I say that I don't get patches | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | That's because it's a polite brush off. :P | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | Woops | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | Any other updates/announcements? | 23:13 |
| bluesabre | Yes there are actually... | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | #info March 1: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze | 23:14 |
| bluesabre | #info March 8: Beta 1 | 23:15 |
| bluesabre | Pretty sure we are participating in that | 23:15 |
| flocculant | that's on my list of things to rabbit about | 23:15 |
| flocculant | as is 16.04.4 | 23:15 |
| flocculant | next week ... | 23:15 |
| flocculant | which is why I'd not added them to the announcement bit :p | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | Good point | 23:16 |
| flocculant | :) | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | Let's hop on over to that then | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | #topic Discussion | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | (get it, hop?) | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | Sorry | 23:17 |
| flocculant | :) | 23:17 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.04 - i386 - i386 built. | 23:17 | |
| bluesabre | Do we want to talk blueprints or general first? | 23:18 |
| flocculant | don't mind - depending on time - up at stupid o'clock tomorrow :( | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | :( | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | Blueprints first then, shouldn't take long | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | #subtopic Blueprints | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | https://dev.xubuntu.org/ | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | We're looking a little rough this cycle | 23:19 |
| * flocculant wanders off for a bit as no qa bp \o/ | 23:19 | |
| flocculant | bluesabre: looks much the same as it did for the last cycle ;) | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | But there's probably more done than it appears | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | In fact, there definitely are | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | I need to update a few things | 23:20 |
| bluesabre | So if everybody just wants to poke around and refresh your BPs so we can target release day a bit better... ;) | 23:21 |
| bluesabre | I realize now that's not really a good discussion item | 23:22 |
| flocculant | :D | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: your turn to #subtopic and rabbit | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | #chair flocculant | 23:23 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | #chair pleia2 | 23:23 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2 | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | #chair slickymaster | 23:23 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2 slickymaster | 23:23 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: did you not want to libinput? | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: decided it's not something to worry about for this cycle | 23:23 |
| flocculant | ok | 23:24 |
| bluesabre | we'll probably have to go for it on bionic+1 so I think they are removing -synaptics | 23:24 |
| flocculant | #subtopic 16.04.4 / Beta 1 18.04 | 23:24 |
| flocculant | this is just forewarning everyone - with job I have now I can't guarantee marking for release | 23:24 |
| flocculant | also not got much time to be testing each and every version and the tests | 23:25 |
| flocculant | I suspect 16.04 is more or less just install smoketests | 23:26 |
| flocculant | #subtopic numlockx | 23:26 |
| flocculant | bug 1746556 | 23:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1746556 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu needs a better num lock handler at login and during user session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746556 | 23:26 |
| flocculant | someone else apparently gets annoyed at having to do this each time they install, so that's at least 2 of us ... | 23:27 |
| flocculant | thoughts on adding that and setting up the lightdm doodah to have it at login? | 23:27 |
| bluesabre | That seems reasonable to me | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | +1 | 23:28 |
| bluesabre | !info numlockx bionic | 23:28 |
| ubottu | numlockx (source: numlockx): enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-7 (bionic), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB | 23:28 |
| bluesabre | That also seems agreeable | 23:28 |
| flocculant | though I tend to make my one a lot further on than 50-numlock.conf just in case :p | 23:28 |
| flocculant | yea not very big at all :p | 23:29 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: so you currently use this in your config? | 23:29 |
| flocculant | yup | 23:29 |
| bluesabre | neat | 23:29 |
| bluesabre | Sounds incredibly painless | 23:29 |
| flocculant | have done for years as it never works without | 23:29 |
| flocculant | yea - just a pita the first time :D | 23:29 |
| bluesabre | Will probably go ahead with that then, it seems like a value add and nothing more | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | thanks for bringing it up | 23:31 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: only time it went wrong was when lightdm changed and you needed the [Seat} bit | 23:31 |
| flocculant | no problem | 23:31 |
| * flocculant is done then | 23:31 | |
| bluesabre | Anybody else got discussion items? | 23:31 |
| flocculant | I'm - as always - concerned about the testing levels we 'apparently' get | 23:32 |
| bluesabre | Yeah | 23:32 |
| flocculant | but bored by the discussion now tbf - as is everyone else I expect | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | #link http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ | 23:33 |
| flocculant | #subtopic Testing | 23:33 |
| flocculant | then | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | to get some fresh views on that at least | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | yay | 23:33 |
| Unit193 | It's really just the install media though, I activly run Bionic. | 23:33 |
| flocculant | not sure what we can do about it though | 23:33 |
| flocculant | Unit193: I know :) | 23:33 |
| bluesabre | hi Unit193 | 23:34 |
| flocculant | trouble is - unless someone actively tells us we have no idea at all | 23:34 |
| flocculant | and frankly someone could just go to the tracker on release day and mark it for release | 23:34 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: not sure we'll ever get fresh views from the few of us in a meeting | 23:36 |
| flocculant | because I'd have to assume we all want it done | 23:36 |
| Unit193 | There's still that one guy that emails me about Core ISOs, but that's unofficial stuff still. | 23:37 |
| flocculant | yup | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: let's plan for a call for testing and social media'ing everywhere | 23:37 |
| flocculant | I'm sure there are people out there - I see pings from the u+1 channel | 23:37 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: mmm | 23:38 |
| flocculant | bored doing those pointlessly as well | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | maybe a nice detailed blog post instead | 23:40 |
| bluesabre | happy to coordinate on that | 23:40 |
| flocculant | ok | 23:40 |
| bluesabre | pleia2, knome_: sound good to you? | 23:41 |
| pleia2 | yep | 23:41 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.04 - amd64 - amd64 built. | 23:41 | |
| flocculant | bluesabre: let me know when's good for you - but I need to afk now | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | #action flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost | 23:41 |
| meetingology | ACTION: flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost | 23:41 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: we can follow up when you're next available :) | 23:42 |
| bluesabre | thanks for hanging around for the meeting | 23:42 |
| flocculant | over weekend - later tomorrow, most of Sunday - evenings after 1900 utc | 23:42 |
| flocculant | no problem - night all :) | 23:43 |
| slickymaster | nighty night flocculant | 23:43 |
| bluesabre | anybody else got anything to discuss? | 23:43 |
| slickymaster | nothing here | 23:43 |
| bluesabre | pleia2 Unit193? | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | nope, I'm good | 23:47 |
| Unit193 | I hope not, but if there is I'll just give you repeated pokes. | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | Sounds... painful | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | #topic Schedule next meeting | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | !info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it | 23:49 |
| ubottu | 'is' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xen | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | er | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | #info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | #endmeeting | 23:49 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Feb 23 23:49:50 2018 UTC. | 23:49 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2018/xubuntu-devel.2018-02-23-23.01.moin.txt | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | Thanks everybody! | 23:49 |
| slickymaster | thanks bluesabre | 23:50 |
| Unit193 | Sorry all about the build notifications, I started them before the meeting and only realized it was going to interrupt the meeting. | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: no problem here, glad to see SwissBot alive and well | 23:51 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:51 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: It doesn't ever stop in another channel, announcing all NEW packages in Debian. :3 | 23:52 |
| bluesabre | shew | 23:55 |
| bluesabre | minutes are up | 23:55 |
| Unit193 | Soo...Every time testing comes up, the tracker is brought up. I always think "But I'm actually running it day to day, doesn't that count?" | 23:56 |
| bluesabre | knome_: "Fix Released" doesn't seem to change anything on the tracker for bugs https://dev.xubuntu.org | 23:59 |
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